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Ex-major of the Armed Forces of Ukraine stated that MH17 was shot down from the territory controlled by Kiev

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The former major of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, Yuri Baturin, said that the Malaysian Boeing flight MH17, which crashed in the Donetsk region in July 2014, was shot down from the village of Zaroshchenskoye under control at that time.


Baturin made a corresponding statement in an interview with the TV channel "Star". It is noted that at the time of the plane crash he served as chief of the command center of the A-1215 military unit of the anti-aircraft missile forces near Kharkov, and personally saw Boeing on the indicators on the day of the crash.

Ex-major of the Armed Forces of Ukraine stated that MH17 was shot down from the territory controlled by Kiev


Attention was paid to all the aircraft that flew over the combat zone, because, from my point of view, this is nonsense. And attention was paid exactly at the moment when the plane disappeared from the indicators. There was a mark, no mark. And it attracts attention.
- said the former Ukrainian soldier.

He also said that a few days after the crash, the military arrived at the command post near Kharkov, who were redeploying the 156 anti-aircraft missile regiment to the area of ​​the village of Zaroshchenskoye. Baturin noted that the “Buk” air defense system was also part of that vehicle that the Ukrainian military had relocated.

The ex-major of the Ukrainian Armed Forces juxtaposed the facts and realized that the Boeing MH17 mark on the radar screen "disappeared in the zone of action of the anti-aircraft guided missile of the Buk anti-aircraft missile system, which includes the Zaroshchenskoye village point."

It was then that everything became clear. It was then that everything fell into place. It was then that it became embarrassing, painful, hard ... The media all over the world almost at the same time, almost the same words trumpeting that Russia was hit by a civilian plane, and then a convoy that was redeployed arrived. Conclusions will not make only a fool
- said the former military.

Baturin said that he was responsible for every word he said. Now the ex-major lives in Russia.

Note that the findings of the former Ukrainian soldier coincide with the results of the investigation, previously conducted by the commission of the Almaz-Antey arms concern (manufacturer of the Buk air defense missile system). Specialists of the concern conducted a series of experiments to establish the true cause of the tragedy, after which they named the approximate launch point “Buka” - the very village of Zaroshchenskoye located in the territory controlled by the Ukrainian military.

In addition, Almaz-Anthea was reminded that it was in the village of Zaroschensky that the Ukrainian Bukis were stationed at the time of the crash of the airliner. The ammunition used was also called 9М38. By the way, in Russia such missiles are not made from the 1999 year, but they are still in service with the Ukrainian army.

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  1. Sergey-svs
    Sergey-svs 7 December 2017 16: 03 New
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    The following testimonies of Rodchenkov will be that the Boeing MH17 was shot down by Russian biathletes under the influence of doping! yes
    laughing laughing laughing
    1. Shura Perm
      Shura Perm 7 December 2017 16: 08 New
      +2
      For apartment information told?
      1. SOF
        SOF 7 December 2017 18: 40 New
        +3
        Quote: Shura Perm
        For apartment information told?

        Why so? Man is clearly risking his life. In our land, unfortunately, a lot of diving with urkaina walks quite freely.
        Maybe it’s time to publish the info. A kind of joker from the sleeve, as a response to the events of the last week and additional fuel to Kuevsky New Maidan.
      2. Vasya Vassin
        Vasya Vassin 7 December 2017 19: 50 New
        0
        Well, you can’t do so, it seems like the truth. And why give an apartment? Think about recognition?
        This is not an Olympic medal, “honestly” won under the white flag? Here they will give dear “our” athletes!
    2. 210ox
      210ox 7 December 2017 16: 10 New
      +4
      Let's just forget about this cattle .. Once our specialists can not do anything with it.
      Quote: Sergey-svs
      The following testimonies of Rodchenkov will be that the Boeing MH17 was shot down by Russian biathletes under the influence of doping! yes
      laughing laughing laughing
      1. Black water
        Black water 7 December 2017 16: 14 New
        +6
        our specialists do not do this, religion does not allow ..... but the "colleagues" do not disdain anything
        1. dSK
          dSK 7 December 2017 16: 23 New
          +2
          Quote: Black Water
          religion does not allow.

          Hello, Alexander! "How much the rope does not curl, but there is always an end".
          1. Black water
            Black water 7 December 2017 16: 56 New
            +1
            and then))) ......... in black water it is easier to hide)))
          2. NKT
            NKT 7 December 2017 17: 25 New
            0
            Well, yes, it’s better not to go to the bath with a scarf)
            1. Esoteric
              Esoteric 7 December 2017 19: 04 New
              0
              Quote: NKT
              Well, yes, it’s better not to go to the bath with a scarf)

              It’s better not to get into a bath with concentrated sulfuric acid ... belay
          3. SPACE
            SPACE 7 December 2017 18: 13 New
            0
            He also said that a few days after the crash, the military arrived at the command post near Kharkov, who were redeploying the 156 anti-aircraft missile regiment to the area of ​​the village of Zaroshchenskoye. Baturin noted that the “Buk” air defense system was also part of that vehicle that the Ukrainian military had relocated.
            The ex-major of the Ukrainian Armed Forces juxtaposed the facts and realized that the Boeing MH17 mark on the radar screen "disappeared in the zone of action of the anti-aircraft guided missile of the Buk anti-aircraft missile system, which includes the Zaroshchenskoye village point."

            If he knows this, then he may know something else, information about the military who were involved in the redeployment of equipment, and even something else ...
            Quote: dsk
            How much the rope does not curl, but there is always an end. "
        2. 210ox
          210ox 7 December 2017 16: 34 New
          +1
          "Partners" rather judging by the terminology of the Kremlin.
          Quote: Black Water
          our specialists do not do this, religion does not allow ..... but the "colleagues" do not disdain anything
      2. pvv113
        pvv113 7 December 2017 17: 32 New
        +2
        Quote: 210ox
        Since our specialists cannot do anything with him.

        Hi Dmitry! Maybe early to draw conclusions? Let's wait, it seems to me that Judas walks along the edge of the abyss without realizing it
        1. osoboye_mneniye
          osoboye_mneniye 8 December 2017 00: 37 New
          0
          Quote: pvv113
          Quote: 210ox
          Since our specialists cannot do anything with him.

          Hi Dmitry! Maybe early to draw conclusions? Let's wait, it seems to me that Judas walks along the edge of the abyss without realizing it

          If he dies, everyone will point to Russia and consider this a confirmation of her guilt on charges. Russia does not need this. Therefore, Russia needs not only not to touch it, but also to protect it, so that it does not work out like with her husband Maksakova. Is it really that hard to understand?
          And the second one. It is still unknown which of the high officials in Russia covered up this shot, taking essentially responsibility for itself, having arranged a show with bottles. So it’s not a fact that they will clean it. Surely papers with the surrender of everyone and everything after his death will be made public, if something happened to him. He is not so stupid to act without insurance. If events show that I am right, then it will be very sad.
      3. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 8 December 2017 00: 07 New
        0
        Quote: 210ox
        Let's just forget about this cattle .. Once our specialists can not do anything with it.
        What to do with it? Bang? This means giving a gift to those who use it against Russia, who will present a fait accompli as an attempt by Russia to cover up tracks and shut up the mouth of the “truth”. Do we need it? Now everybody who is not lazy will have him there, and after that he will live like a rat in a pen, being afraid to stick his nose out into the street once again until he hangs himself on a battery in the bathroom, following Berezovsky’s example. "Deserved" of course, but ....
  2. HEATHER
    HEATHER 7 December 2017 16: 03 New
    +8
    Now the ex-major lives in Russia. Then you can talk about everything. And about the fact that Israel shot down a black star. A refugee is a star. Russia is a good soul. For its minuscule. For a refugee apartment, and everything else in relation to benefits and salaries.
    1. 210ox
      210ox 7 December 2017 16: 06 New
      +3
      I’ve also thought about it. And why wasn’t I so brave there, in the banderlog?
      Quote: VERESK
      Now the ex-major lives in Russia. Then you can talk about everything. And about the fact that Israel shot down a black star. A refugee is a star. Russia is a good soul. For its minuscule. For a refugee apartment, and everything else in relation to benefits and salaries.
      1. Ego cogito ergo sum
        Ego cogito ergo sum 7 December 2017 16: 09 New
        31
        And try there yourself to be brave ...
        1. 210ox
          210ox 7 December 2017 16: 13 New
          +6
          Well then, here you don’t need to build a hero from yourself! Now you can say anything you like. Only this is no longer necessary for anyone. He will say everything, if only he would be well.
          Quote: Ego cogito ergo sum
          And try there yourself to be brave ...
          1. Azim77
            Azim77 7 December 2017 17: 01 New
            +7
            I suppose that even in Russia it is unsafe to give such confessions on such a hot topic and you need to have courage.
      2. Kent0001
        Kent0001 7 December 2017 16: 42 New
        +5
        Is it okay to reason from a sofa for a rating? Yes? Let’s continue on, everything is as usual.
      3. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 7 December 2017 17: 15 New
        12
        Quote: 210ox
        Why wasn’t he so brave in banderlog?

        He, like everyone else, wanted to ... live. All he had to do was laugh, and Mr. Oles Buzina would suffer the fate. sad
        ("Of course I am not a hero, but not De Beale ..." (c) bully
    2. Victorio
      Victorio 7 December 2017 16: 26 New
      +2
      Quote: VERESK
      Now the ex-major lives in Russia. Then you can talk about everything. And about the fact that Israel shot down a black star. A refugee is a star. Russia is a good soul. For its minuscule. For a refugee apartment, and everything else in relation to benefits and salaries.

      ===
      and if his information is weighty !? on the one hand there are multimillion-dollar costs, lawyers, research, time, reputation and other, other, and on the other, only the cost of the apartment
      1. 210ox
        210ox 7 December 2017 16: 30 New
        +1
        If she was very, ours would already be hooked. And so, this person has been here for a year, as far as I know. And this is more like propaganda.
        Quote: Victorio
        Quote: VERESK
        Now the ex-major lives in Russia. Then you can talk about everything. And about the fact that Israel shot down a black star. A refugee is a star. Russia is a good soul. For its minuscule. For a refugee apartment, and everything else in relation to benefits and salaries.

        ===
        and if his information is weighty !? on the one hand there are multimillion-dollar costs, lawyers, research, time, reputation and other, other, and on the other, only the cost of the apartment
        1. PalBor
          PalBor 7 December 2017 19: 52 New
          +3
          And who said that proper and useful propaganda is bad?
          Kukryniksy, Motherland is calling, Get up a huge country - this is also agitation, propaganda and the collective organization of the struggle for a just cause.
          In this case, of course, clumsy, but a brick in the fight for the truth about who shot down the Boeing.
          1. Glory1974
            Glory1974 8 December 2017 11: 25 New
            0
            Kukryniksy, Motherland is calling, Get up a huge country - this is also agitation, propaganda and the collective organization of the struggle for a just cause.

            It is urgent to rivet the report (they have mclaren, let us have Gerasimov’s report) and begin to impose a variety of sanctions. Beat the enemy with his own weapons.
          2. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 8 December 2017 14: 06 New
            0
            "of course, clumsy, but a brick in the fight for the truth" ///

            Clumsy brick ... sad from such a wall for the house of truth you can’t build ...
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      3. Kent0001
        Kent0001 7 December 2017 16: 43 New
        +3
        No one in the EU will listen to him, but he is not Rodchenko and not against Russia. Now, if on the contrary, then yes, then of course ....
    3. LiSiCyn
      LiSiCyn 7 December 2017 17: 07 New
      +6
      Well, we won’t be so categorical .. hi I can report on the crew of the Su-24, who died in a crash during take-off, in Syria. First of all, I convey the words of gratitude to all concerned, who responded to the call to help. There are a lot of caring people, not only in Russia, but also abroad .. Ours of course, of course .. Command, allocates apartments to the families of the victims. Well, insurance. They told me everything is fine. Besides the fact that you won’t return the guys ...
    4. LSA57
      LSA57 7 December 2017 17: 30 New
      +3
      Quote: VERESK
      Star refugee

      and then what is the international commission doing ??????? at least one evidence has been provided for so many years ??????? or "we have them but they are secret" evidence ???????? the mass of satellites sash hang there. where what???????
    5. Topotun
      Topotun 7 December 2017 17: 40 New
      +3
      What is the difference where he lives and why he did not say the same thing in / in Ukraine? His words are just words. And he believes the words "democratic world" only if they do not contradict the State Department. Because there is no point in breaking spears. For me personally, the demontration of Almaz-Antey is more convincing.
  3. anjey
    anjey 7 December 2017 16: 22 New
    +4
    The ex-major of the Ukrainian Armed Forces juxtaposed the facts and realized that the Boeing MH17 mark on the radar screen "disappeared in the zone of action of the anti-aircraft guided missile of the Buk anti-aircraft missile system, which includes the Zaroshchenskoye village point."
    secret of the action, only in the west it has been black for a long time, white and black, in my opinion they themselves have become entangled in this cesspool of lies, so they have hung noodles of "true" lies for their electorate for a long time and it’s hard to convince this part of humanity, for someone lies and slander sweeter and more comfortable, especially when it was an end in itself ...
  4. Altona
    Altona 7 December 2017 16: 25 New
    +5
    If there is such an important witness, then his testimony should be circulated in the media, and he himself should be placed under the witness protection program. Do everything like the West with Rodchenkov.
    1. fif21
      fif21 7 December 2017 19: 54 New
      0
      Quote: Altona
      If there is such an important witness

      He will become a witness when he is officially interrogated by the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation or the Prosecutor's Office or investigators conducting business in the Netherlands. hi
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 8 December 2017 14: 10 New
        0
        The Boeing trial in the Netherlands next year. So bring the major there.
  5. irbis0373
    irbis0373 7 December 2017 16: 25 New
    0
    Somehow this topic began to be forgotten. And it looks like someone decided to remind her. Really what will happen or just another reminder of the tragedy?
    1. Shurale
      Shurale 8 December 2017 06: 59 New
      0
      Until the true culprit is found and he repents, this topic will pop up ...
  6. Siberia 9444
    Siberia 9444 7 December 2017 16: 58 New
    0
    Thanks mr evidence hi He is responsible for every word smile
  7. Siberian1965
    Siberian1965 7 December 2017 17: 09 New
    +4
    I am sure of that. Bloody pastors, chocolate misunderstandings, “intellectuals” mayors, all these cheap clowns carried out specific orders of their owners. They fill up the plane like two fingers. The devils lick their lips, waiting for the godfathers of this territory, who defeated the deb..ov.
  8. domnich
    domnich 7 December 2017 18: 00 New
    +4
    Quote: Altona
    If there is such an important witness


    Witness - there is a witness. For the investigation and in court, his testimony certainly matters. You need to search for all involved until you have disappeared forever. Take under protection, convince of the crime of the current government of Ukraine.
    1. LeonidL
      LeonidL 7 December 2017 19: 56 New
      +1
      You are naive, my friend, a man ... and who are the judges?
      1. domnich
        domnich 7 December 2017 20: 31 New
        +4
        I agree, the judges are not credible, and Russia does not recognize the jurisdiction of the ICC ...

  9. LeonidL
    LeonidL 7 December 2017 19: 55 New
    0
    On the table by Admiral Canaris, the leader of Abwehr, there were three figurines of monkeys - one closed her eyes, the other clamped her ears, the third - covered her mouth. Now they are all sitting in The Hague, and their relatives are in the IOC, OSCE, CE, ECHR and other equally “autonomous” warm compasses. Poor Russia can present facts, arguments, testimony before turning blue ... no one will see, no one will hear, but they will even hear and not squeak against the hosts from the World Backstage.
    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 7 December 2017 21: 14 New
      +1
      Quote: LeonidL
      Admiral Canaris, the leader of Abwehr, had three figurines of monkeys - one closed her eyes, the other clamped her ears, the third - covered her mouth.

      The same ones stood on the desk of CIA Director Casey in the 80s. Not otherwise - inherited. yes
  10. complete zero
    complete zero 8 December 2017 00: 13 New
    +1
    Quote: Shura Perm
    For apartment information told?

    you then turn on the respected head (or just wear a hat?) - look for whom this crime is beneficial (try to guess twice?)
  11. Nemo35
    Nemo35 8 December 2017 03: 45 New
    0
    The version of the aircraft attack is no longer being considered?
  12. Shurale
    Shurale 8 December 2017 06: 35 New
    0
    And what about the damaging elements in the shape of a butterfly found at the crash site? Check out the official investigation first before reading anything else.
  13. Alex Justice
    Alex Justice 8 December 2017 11: 22 New
    0
    Where was he before? Remember just now?