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Ukraine continues to develop the anti-ship complex "Neptune"

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Kharkiv LLC Mashgidroprivod in December 2016 of the year entered into contracts with the State Kyiv Design Bureau "Luch" to develop a transport-charging vehicle for the Neptun anti-ship missile and the transport module of the unified self-propelled Neptun anti-ship missile, reports blog Diana Mikhailova.




As part of the contractual relationship was produced:

“Products (accessories, components, press tool E337.11176.000.0, press tool E337.11175.000.0, press tool E337.11174.000.0, press tool E337.11119.000.0, adapters, cases, etc.);

and services (development of design documentation for the manufacture of prototypes of the transport module of a unified self-propelled launcher TM USPU-360, development of design documentation for the manufacture of prototypes of the transport-charging machine TZM-360).

Tactical and technical requirements for OCR "Neptune" on 13 sheets are classified as "Chipboard". Factory order No. 14 for the development of OCR "Neptune" with applications dated 11 April 2017. August 28

In addition, Kharkiv Transport Equipment Plant LLC performs an integral part of the development work, the Neptun-PU cipher is developing a launcher for the Neptun anti-ship missile. ”

The head of the research center of the Armed Forces of Ukraine “State Oceanarium”, Colonel Andrei Donchak, reported this during a report at the conference entitled “Creation and Modernization of Armaments and Military Equipment in Modern Conditions”.

The tasks of the coastal defense facing the naval forces of Ukraine can be partially solved by creating domestic coastal missile systems of various bases,
he said.

For this purpose, you can use domestic mobile complexes such as the Rubezh complex, which were in service in the past. Three divisions of such complexes can completely cover the Azov and Black Sea coasts. A separate advantage will be their mobility,
noted the colonel.

To create a complex there are all conditions - own mobile base: cars "Kraz". Or cars "Maz-543М", a significant amount of which is on conservation. At the first stage, the use of the old Soviet radar Garpun, which was part of the Rubek Rubezh, which can later be replaced by a more modern radar, such as Malachite, or another
said donchak.

Also, according to him, "it is necessary to complete the development of the domestic anti-ship missile" Neptune "with a firing range of up to 280 km, which does not fall under the restrictions of international treaties."

At the moment, the speed of creation of this weapon leaves much to be desired. The main problems lie in the development of the homing head. But the work continues, and we hope that they will soon go into service,
added the colonel.
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  1. 210ox
    210ox 7 December 2017 15: 54 New
    +3
    Some kind of freak in the photo .. Regarding the rocket. It is created in the marine version for the boat "Doe". Let's see. There are specialists on missiles, there is also a base. And what happens?
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 7 December 2017 16: 16 New
      +8
      Quote: 210ox
      What a freak in the photo ..

      Variation on the theme of the ballistic control system "Ball" with anti-ship missilesharpoon", that is, X-35. smile
      1. alexmach
        alexmach 7 December 2017 21: 48 New
        +1
        Well, actually lightweight anti-ship missiles of the X-35 or Harpoon type, they also saw.
  2. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
    Andrei from Chelyabinsk 7 December 2017 15: 57 New
    +8
    Tactical and technical requirements for the ROC "Neptune" on 13 sheets are classified as "chipboard".

    Yes, not a signature stamp of "chipboard" But simply - chipboard, particleboard, that is
  3. HEATHER
    HEATHER 7 December 2017 15: 59 New
    +6
    Tactical and technical requirements for the ROC "Neptune" on 13 sheets are classified as "chipboard". What are they? A new Cossack sculpt? 13 sheets TTX! We need to drink tea. And pour "secrecy" like chipboard.
  4. Kerensky
    Kerensky 7 December 2017 15: 59 New
    +2
    Good news. People will get the job of creating a designer from Soviet parts, and this power will not receive complexes.
    1. 210ox
      210ox 7 December 2017 16: 03 New
      +7
      I will not be so optimistic. If they create the head, then the radar will have no big problems. The question is different. How much can they do?
      Quote: Kerensky
      Good news. People will get the job of creating a designer from Soviet parts, and this power will not receive complexes.
      1. Kerensky
        Kerensky 7 December 2017 16: 07 New
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        If they create a head,

        Here, in addition to the "if", you also need to add the "when" .... So far, only the Maidan catapults come out, and even then it is single ..
        1. 210ox
          210ox 7 December 2017 16: 20 New
          +8
          And this is in vain. The enemy should not be underestimated. Once again I say, there is someone there to do it (specialists from Soviet times), and there is a production base.
          Quote: Kerensky
          If they create a head,

          Here, in addition to the "if", you also need to add the "when" .... So far, only the Maidan catapults come out, and even then it is single ..
          1. Kerensky
            Kerensky 7 December 2017 16: 23 New
            0
            Once again I say, there is someone to do it (specialists from Soviet times), and there is a production base.

            And then where are the products ?! AND! I understood that they didn’t have documentation on 13 pages.
            1. Equalized
              Equalized 7 December 2017 16: 25 New
              +3
              The products of KB Luch are mainly anti-tank systems, which are exported, are in the Armed Forces. You can see the full catalog on their website: http://www.luch.kiev.ua/en/

              They began the development of anti-ship missiles relatively recently, as well as work on the Alder MLRS.
          2. Topotun
            Topotun 7 December 2017 17: 17 New
            +2
            No, no one underestimates. The fact that the USSR left a good school there (until all of it has been ruined) is a fact. And cooperation with Russia in the 2000s gave them something. But still, to create such a complex, and this is not only a rocket and GOS. These are the detection algorithms for the radar, the hardware base of the radar, the algorithms of the GOS + of the missile control module itself. Creation of launchers, control centers, etc. etc. The price of the issue is millions of dead presidents. Where does the money come from - Zin? In addition, a production complex is needed for mass production. Given that Antonov Design Bureau ordered a long life, the South is also on the verge, I doubt that there will be a result with adoption.
          3. sabakina
            sabakina 7 December 2017 19: 18 New
            +3
            Quote: 210ox
            Once again I say, there is someone to do it (specialists from Soviet times), and there is a production base.
            These specialists are about 50-55 years old.
            1. Hariton laptev
              Hariton laptev 8 December 2017 08: 32 New
              0
              So what??? For a design engineer, this is the heyday of creativity when it is already full of experience and youthful maximalism has diminished, and it really looks at many things.
  5. Non liberoid Russian
    Non liberoid Russian 7 December 2017 16: 00 New
    +1
    they will take the Soviet development from the fact that they have not sold it yet, paint it, and pass it off as their work ... the production on the outskirts will definitely not be anymore, not by whom, by what and where
    1. Equalized
      Equalized 7 December 2017 16: 17 New
      14
      In Ukraine, there are NO Soviet developments of anti-ship missiles except the old frontiers that remained in Crimea. Apparently Andrei Donchak is not aware of this.

      Neptune is a rocket in the image of the X-35. Design Bureau "Ray" is quite capable of doing it, because such projects are their thing. Missiles for anti-tank systems, air-to-air missiles (Fringe, for example). All this is in their competence. Homing heads in Ukraine also DO. The only problem is what PAGSN (semi-active) do there, and the active ones that are needed for RCC do not, only at the experimental level for now.

      Well, why when the news about Ukraine, people who do not rummage at once (who, what, when, where) and immediately start writing off-topic crap immediately rush into comments? Damn 2014 year, the level of military discussions has fallen dramatically.

      Here is the line from this kb. It was just that before the military commissar was not very interested and many projects were cut off in the bud. The beam survived only on the export of anti-tank systems.

      Now, with a shortage of modern weapons, they began to pour loot

      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 7 December 2017 16: 32 New
        +3
        Quote: Equalized
        Homing heads in Ukraine also DO. The only problem is what PAGSN (semi-active) do there, and the active ones that are needed for RCC do not, only at the experimental level for now.

        And who originally did the GOS for the R-77? On this RVV, EMNIP, it was precisely the ARLGSN, and they released it in the USSR / in Ukraine.
        The second channel - IR GOS - is also in Ukraine.
        1. Equalized
          Equalized 7 December 2017 16: 36 New
          +3
          According to my data, at the moment, only PAGSN is currently being produced there at the RADAR plant in Kiev, there are also private traders like Radionix who are stirring up something in cooperation with state-owned factories. They are now doing GOS for R-27, which are produced by the Artem State Joint-stock Commercial Holding, for export. There are semi-active.

          Maybe I'm wrong. But I didn’t see serial ARLGSN there, there is simply no product so far where you could shove them. With P-27 it did not grow together, it seemed to be planned before but then scored.
          1. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 7 December 2017 18: 03 New
            +3
            Quote: Equalized
            According to my data, at the moment, only PAGSN is currently being produced there at the RADAR plant in Kiev, there are also private traders like Radionix who are stirring up something in cooperation with state-owned factories. They are now doing GOS for R-27, which are produced by the Artem State Joint-stock Commercial Holding, for export. There are semi-active.

            In principle, it is logical: for what there is demand, they do it. If they release the "butterfly" R-27, it means they will be mass-produced by PARLGSN.
      2. Topotun
        Topotun 7 December 2017 17: 22 New
        +2
        Yes, no one argues what they can do, at least theoretically. But here is the key moment of financing. And given their IMF debts (we do not take into account Russia's debts so far), they are unlikely to find money to bring the project to at least a small series. If only the Design Bureau at its own expense .... But I’m not at all sure of this.
        1. Piramidon
          Piramidon 7 December 2017 17: 58 New
          0
          Quote: Topotun
          If only OKB at own expense ....

          And how many hryvnias are in the accounts of this OKB?
      3. altynbay
        altynbay 7 December 2017 18: 42 New
        +2
        Well, why when the news about Ukraine, people who do not rummage at once (who, what, when, where) and immediately start writing off-topic crap immediately rush into comments? Damn 2014 year, the level of military discussions has fallen dramatically.
        1. altynbay
          altynbay 7 December 2017 18: 44 New
          +2
          Yes, after 14, the site became frivolous.
  6. farik68
    farik68 7 December 2017 16: 20 New
    0
    It is clear and it means it will shoot arrows ....)))
  7. altynbay
    altynbay 7 December 2017 17: 33 New
    13
    Hello comrades forum users. I have been reading VO for about 4 years. The site is very interesting and necessary. You learn a lot of useful stuff. I decided to write what I think. Recently, the quality of comments has been deteriorating. This is especially true for comments on the United States, Europe and Ukraine. Some strange jokes. For the most part, there’s nothing to joke about. From all sides on the borders of Russia the ring of enemies is already closing. We missed the departure of Ukraine, the creation of a more or less efficient army there. Yes, they still have a lot to learn, but they are doing something. Remember what the APU were in the year 14 hungry and ragged. and what they have become now. it is already a motivated and fired enemy, having a reserve that has passed hostilities. remember the year 1917. What was the Red Army, it also consisted of hastily assembled and poorly trained fighters. And until a certain time, she was defeated. And then what became? Maybe stop laughing at their designs. Let's be more serious ...
    1. The comment was deleted.
    2. Piramidon
      Piramidon 7 December 2017 17: 59 New
      +4
      Quote: altynbay
      remember 1917

      I remember right now. lol
    3. Viktor.12.71
      Viktor.12.71 7 December 2017 18: 29 New
      +2
      Quote: altynbay
      Oh, there was the Red Army, it also consisted of hastily assembled and poorly trained fighters. And until a certain time, she was defeated. And then what became? Maybe stop laughing at their designs. Let's be more serious ...

      Sun Tzu wrote that war is a way of deception. Get him upset
      and take it; if everything is complete with him, be ready; if he is strong, evade him; calling in
      there is anger in him, bring him into a state of frustration; having taken a humble appearance, call in it
      conceit; if his strength is fresh, tire him; if he is friendly, disconnect; attack on
      him when he is not ready; speak when he is not expecting.
      1. altynbay
        altynbay 7 December 2017 18: 35 New
        +1
        Art of War! never read this book. Fight where the enemy does not fight.
    4. LeonidL
      LeonidL 7 December 2017 20: 06 New
      +1
      It is true that underestimating the enemy is dangerous, but overestimating is stupid ...
      1. altynbay
        altynbay 7 December 2017 20: 43 New
        +2
        Yes, just sometimes people want to bring to life. all came out of the same state, and actually the actions at the same time are the same. war develops into conflict when a soldier begins to avenge a deceased comrade. and by nature a person is born from the sight of blood. not a familiar feeling?
        1. sharp-lad
          sharp-lad 7 December 2017 21: 34 New
          +1
          From the smell and taste it can completely take down the head.