In Ukraine, announced the final stage of creation of OTRK "Grom"

The director of the Pavlograd Chemical Plant (Ukraine), Leonid Shiman, announced that he was at the final stage of the creation of the operational-tactical missile complex "Grom". In fact, we are talking about OTRK "Thunder-2", which in Ukraine is called the latest development of missile weapons.

From the statement of Leonid Shiman:

The development of the complex is already at the final stage. Now almost completed tests of the control system and the movement of missiles, hydraulics, mechanics and everything related to transportation. Most likely, in the course of the year, the OTRK will enter field trials.

Further, at the Pavlograd Chemical Plant, they said that they would be armed with the Thunder radio station (Thunder-2) in 2020 or 2021. It is noted that the “Thunder” missiles are capable of effectively hitting targets at a distance of “several hundred kilometers” and “violating the integrity of the enemy’s missile defense system by 96%”. By what criteria was the last parameter estimated (namely in 96%), the company is not informed. In the Yuzhnoye design bureau, it was previously announced about the target's range from 50 to 500 km.

Until the end of the year, the Thunder complex will be transferred to a new stage of testing in a military test site.

OTRK "Thunder" - a complex based on the use of solid-fuel ballistic missiles. KrAZ 10x10 is used as a platform (chassis) as it was originally reported.

Comments

[Teberii]

The new name of the old technology.

[Shura Perm]

Of the new will be the number 2 in the title ...

[xetai9977]

It seems the Saudis pay for the work. It would be interesting to know the performance characteristics.

[Berkut24]

It would be interesting to know the performance characteristics.

I think this is most interesting for the Saudis themselves. Especially - someday this endless development in general will end

[Spartanez300]

Again, the obsolete rocket was repainted and given out for the latest development, so what that dill can throw dust in the eyes well.

[Equalized]

Can you CALL specifically the "obsolete rocket" that has been repainted? Maybe 9M79 from the "Point-U" complex? Oh wait! The combat ready 9M79 weighs only 2 tons, and the engine to the OTRK Thunder weighs 3140 ++ kilograms! More than a whole point per ton, that’s understandable. TTX is designed for 500km range like Iskander’s.

Before writing such nonsense, familiarize yourself with the materiel. Or is it a tradition to puff here without any proofs?

[Nemo]

Quote: Equalized

Please tell me why the OTRK rocket engine from a space rocket? For example, the mass of RD-191 is 2,5 tons, the mass of the Iskander rocket is about 4 tons. If the actual mass of the engine is 3100 kg, then this is inefficient, especially because of such a range.

Please tell me why the OTRK rocket engine from a space rocket? For example, the mass of RD-191 is 2,5 tons, the mass of the Iskander rocket is about 4 tons. If the actual mass of the engine is 3100 kg, then this is inefficient, especially because of such a range.

[volodya]

Quote: Teberii

The new name of the old technology.

The West has recognized us as a party to the conflict! Well duck why be shy? We must send modern weapons to LDNR!

[Going]

Even the Ukrainian courts did not recognize it, separate politicians vote.

[volodya]

Quote: Going

Even the Ukrainian courts did not recognize it, separate politicians vote.

[Going]

These are only his words and no more.

[Teberii]

They cope with it, too much evidence that in good hands everything will work out.

[Topotun]

There it is enough to send an old complex "Point" (9L79). Instantly screaming will be ....

[Jedi]

I would not hurry to believe the dill - they are masters.

[Topotun]

Well, the Soviet school was quite imagined! Something else is left. Therefore, they probably could have developed something, especially on the basis of the available weapons of the USSR. But I’m not sure how effective the complex, and most importantly to build at least a pre-production product.

[Jedi]

Quote: Topotun

But I’m not sure how effective the complex, and most importantly to build at least a pre-production product.

This is precisely what casts doubt.

[Don]

And what exactly to put? Those 8 Armata tanks that we have for parades? Or would the Iskanders want to deliver to people who do not know how to use it? Can he put Yarsa right away so that everyone, including us, comes with a "couch"? But seriously, the old weapons that Russia supplied them with in a full-scale war would be enough for the Russian troops to march from Rostov and throw the Slav brothers back to their original positions.

[Monarchist]

Old does not mean that bad. As an example: the wristwatch "Commander" "Amphibian" and "Commander" "Admiral", the first have a better move, and the second has a better design. For some reason they prefer the first

[Dezinto]

And indeed. To Ukraine was so crazy! equipment and weapons! After all, it was the most militarized district in the USSR, which until now 27 years later they still did not have time to sell and unearth! Horror .... it’s good that they managed to withdraw nuclear weapons ...

[aszzz888]

... in childhood, we also filled glass tubes with cut plastic - and nothing, flew ... 5-7 meters ...

[sergey32]

And if you finish with bourgeois help?
500 km means they will be able to reach Moscow from the Sumy region, and from the east of Ukraine the south of Russia will be shot through to the borders of Kazakhstan. Intercepting the OTRK is a non-trivial task.

[zzdimk]

And where did they get the money for NKR? I do not believe that OTRK can be developed on an initiative basis. Did you buy a new bucket of paint ...

[aszzz888]

zzdimk Today, 12:33
And where did they get the money for NKR?

... rub their ears with pots on their heads, they like it ...

[Piramidon]

Quote: zzdimk

And where did they get the money for NKR? I do not believe that OTRK can be developed on an initiative basis. Did you buy a new bucket of paint ...

I won’t be surprised if they show the Soviet PTRK "Point". Well, they will write on it blue-yellow letters "SUGS"

[donavi49]

This complex has a starting customer and financier - the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. Design range 300km (under the contract).

[rotmistr60]

Nothing new is happening in the defense industry complex of Ukraine. Soviet developments stand out for their own and the latest, good specialists in most cases scattered in different countries. Go ahead.

[Piramidon]

According to what criteria the last parameter was evaluated (precisely in 96%), the company did not report.

In the "Red Alert" played and identified.

[Baloo]

it is noted that the Thunder missiles are capable of effectively hitting targets on a distance of "several hundred kilometers" and "violate the integrity of the enemy’s missile defense by 96%." According to what criteria the last parameter was evaluated (precisely in 96%), the company did not report. In CB "South" earlier it was announced about the range of destruction of the target in the range from 50 to 500 km.
and even overcome the enemy’s missile defense. Horror...
Is it possible to overcome the shell?

[SpaceCom]

But I’m personally more interested in what kind of testing ground this product will be tested at. Especially at maximum distance.

[Equalized]

TTRD (solid propellant rocket engine) to the Grom-2 OTRK. It weighs 3 tons (a ton more than a whole Tochka rocket), the Pavlogradsky Chemical Plant was developed, produced at the Yuzhmash plant in Dnepropetrovsk from a composite string using the latest technologies available in the space industry in Ukraine.




Last year there was a video of them wrapping a cocoon under the engine at Yuzhmash, but alas, I lost it. Serious development because serious enterprises are engaged in it, one can say the most advanced ones that have remained from the USSR and are still functioning.

In terms of financing, they are financing the Saudi project. This is officially confirmed on both sides.

ps
as for the SPU (self-propelled launcher) and the chassis to it, this is not KRAZ.
The base was developed by the design bureau named after A.A. Morozov in Kharkov, and made at the base of the Malyshev factory in the same place.

Perhaps there are some details from Kraz. But this is a special chassis. Kraz has no such massive ones.

[uav80]

I have a very funny article looks especially in conjunction with Google ads ...

[Old26]

Quote: Topotun

There it is enough to send an old complex "Point" (9L79). Instantly screaming will be ....

Nonsense do not write

Quote: sergey32

And if you finish with bourgeois help?
500 km means they will be able to reach Moscow from the Sumy region, and from the east of Ukraine the south of Russia will be shot through to the borders of Kazakhstan. Intercepting the OTRK is a non-trivial task.

They can also "finish". In any case, this complex is not a plus for Russia. Where it will get to and when is the second question, but intercepting the OTRK has always been a difficult task due to lack of time.

Quote: zzdimk

And where did they get the money for NKR? I do not believe that OTRK can be developed on an initiative basis. Did you buy a new bucket of paint ...

You may not believe it. But Design Bureau "South", even in the very truncated form in which it exists now, can create a lot of what we do not like. The question is MONEY. Many wrote that everything was Khan “Yuzhny”, but whether we like it or not, they did and do carry out their work on the carrier “Vega”. And at least they will be performing for about 5 years. What is difficult for the design bureau that once created Molodets to create OTRK now? Religion does not allow? Or did the entire KBY staff move to Russia? WHAT?

[Equalized]

They also USA Antares designed and are working on the project.
Now there are 5 000 people in KB.

This is a powerful KB and nothing prevents them. But it’s easier for Russians to believe that Ukraine is the end. Everything fell apart)

[Normal ok]

Well done, what to say. Quietly but steadily promoting the project. I already thought that since nothing had been in the press for a long time, they buried it. But no.

[Old26]

Quote: Normal ok

Well done, what to say. Quietly but steadily promoting the project. I already thought that since nothing had been in the press for a long time, they buried it. But no.

The question always and everywhere rests on one thing. In the money. Developments at Yuzhnoye Design Bureau were enough. They started after the collapse of the USSR with Borisfen. Then there were different products, but all developments rested either on insufficient financing or drank at the stage of how the money would come to the customer. Moreover, making an operational-tactical missile for Yuzhny is not difficult, even in the current conditions of confusion and vacillations. Yuzhny has always been able to make products of rocket and space technology and hoping that everything is in ruin and they are not capable of anything - at least it's stupid

[Equalized]

So this Thunder reached the “in metal” phase precisely because it was financed from behind a hill (KSA). The Saudis gave pennies.

Otherwise, they would have finished as Sapsan, on the path of design.

[LeonidL]

It is dangerous to give children, all the more, not quite adequate matches.

[Valery Saitov]

On August 18, 2016, information appeared that the customer was Saudi Arabia.
That’s the whole answer. Even if it flies, it’s only in the SA, and ukra ... a few pennies. And maybe they’ll pay by camels.

[asr55]

Quote: Equalized

Can you CALL specifically the "obsolete rocket" that has been repainted? Maybe 9M79 from the "Point-U" complex? Oh wait! The combat ready 9M79 weighs only 2 tons, and the engine to the OTRK Thunder weighs 3140 ++ kilograms! More than a whole point per ton, that’s understandable. TTX is designed for 500km range like Iskander’s.

Before writing such nonsense, familiarize yourself with the materiel. Or is it a tradition to puff here without any proofs?

This is for you, my dear enameled friend, you need to familiarize yourself with the mat.chast. Maybe then you will find out how many cars the OTRK complex consists of and why MKTZ tractors are used on one or two missiles. Well, as for the repainted rockets - we can show you a photo from your press when the RZZO installation is given out as an outpost in a place with your Goebels Turchinov. Yes, I think you’ll find it on the Internet. Yes, and most importantly - knock soup ladle on his pan, maybe then you will understand what kind of complex is in the picture. You are ridiculous racers.