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Brazilian Navy replenished with British helicopter "Ocean"

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Next year, the British Navy plans to write off their amphibious assault carrier Ocean and are looking for a buyer for it in advance. According to ukdefencejournal.org.uk, the Brazilian Ministry of Defense officially confirmed its intention to acquire a British warship. In addition, the Turkish Navy is showing interest in the British ship.


Brazilian Navy replenished with British helicopter "Ocean"


HMS Ocean landing helicopter is the flagship of the British fleet, but should be decommissioned next year after the adoption of Queen Elizabeth aircraft carrier. The details of the offer to sell the helicopter carrier Ocean were not disclosed, but it is known that Brazilian military officials recognized the possible deal as reasonable, based on the proposed price of the ship. According to unofficial data, the potential value of the transaction is 312 million Brazilian reais (£ 80,3 million).

HMS Ocean was adopted by the British fleet in 1995 year. The length of the ship is 202 m, displacement - more than 21 000 t. The ship can hold more than 40 military vehicles, can carry helicopters up to 18, and at least 800 man of the landing force and almost 500 crew members, including the personnel of the wing, reports "Warspot"
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  1. xetai9977
    xetai9977 7 December 2017 12: 18 New
    +2
    If Brazil has islands that are located away from the mainland, then the purchase is justified. Especially relatively inexpensive by today's standards
    1. Spartanez300
      Spartanez300 7 December 2017 12: 20 New
      +4
      The British fleet is slowly ceasing to exist as a powerful naval power, and when it was a storm of the seas.
      1. Nasrat
        Nasrat 7 December 2017 12: 28 New
        +4
        rotation is in progress - junk (by our standards - this is new!) is being replaced with new ships .. For example, Kuzya is still considered oh-hoo !!!
        such a ship flying the Russian flag would be proud ... and still serve twenty years ...
      2. mvg
        mvg 7 December 2017 12: 38 New
        +9
        What else do you know for the British fleet? The Russian fleet would have its capabilities ... At least in the surface component. If you have the opportunity to write off a 20-year-old ship, let's just say the driving class.
      3. Piramidon
        Piramidon 7 December 2017 19: 02 New
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        Quote: Spartanez300
        The British fleet is slowly ceasing to exist as a powerful naval power, and when it was a storm of the seas.

        They are doing everything right. The fleet is being renewed, and the old is not remelted into pans, but sold.
    2. Dezinto
      Dezinto 7 December 2017 12: 21 New
      +2
      Brazil has no islands, neither far away nor near.
      1. LiSiCyn
        LiSiCyn 7 December 2017 13: 02 New
        +3
        80 Lyamov, ridiculous money ... Buying a football player (Pogba) in Manchester United for 100, for 5 years, this is normal. And to sell the flagship, forever ... Politics .. Brazil has almost been "torn out" of the BRICS. am
        1. donavi49
          donavi49 7 December 2017 13: 58 New
          +4
          Well, in general, in the BRICS - Brazil, a past group led the people who are now enemies of the people and sit or run from the court.

          The current government focuses on strategic partnership (vassality) with the United States.
          1. just exp
            just exp 7 December 2017 14: 33 New
            +1
            can I talk about this in more detail? really interesting.
          2. LiSiCyn
            LiSiCyn 7 December 2017 15: 40 New
            +1
            So it is, pay for spreading the past “group”.
    3. MOSKVITYANIN
      MOSKVITYANIN 9 December 2017 00: 14 New
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      Quote: xetai9977
      If Brazil has islands that are located away from the mainland, then the purchase is justified. Especially relatively inexpensive by today's standards

      And if it has a long coastline, is it not needed? Why then does Azerbaijan not have it? Advisor, damn it ...
  2. Teberii
    Teberii 7 December 2017 12: 18 New
    +2
    "The Queen of the Seas" is losing ground at a bargain price.
    1. MOSKVITYANIN
      MOSKVITYANIN 9 December 2017 00: 15 New
      0
      Quote: Teberii
      "The Queen of the Seas" is losing ground at a bargain price.

      We would have such a position ...
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  4. Magic archer
    Magic archer 7 December 2017 12: 19 New
    +6
    Strange. The ship is relatively not old and the amount for it is acceptable! Frankly, we wouldn’t be bothered by this. It is clear that the Saxons will not sell it to us.
  5. Omskgasmyas
    Omskgasmyas 7 December 2017 12: 22 New
    0
    And why do the Brazilians need a helicopter carrier?
    To hunt wild monkeys?
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 7 December 2017 13: 59 New
      +4
      Obviously, for the same reason why Algeria needs a helicopter carrier dock, then why Peru - 2 helicopter carrier dock. Then - why is Turkey a helicopter carrier dock. In general, these are the most popular ships today. And all try to get them.
    2. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 7 December 2017 17: 49 New
      +2
      In Brazil, they found a lot of oil on the shelf. Rejoiced.
      We decided to strengthen the aviation and navy in order to protect the future
      oil. But producing oil was not easy and expensive. Go broke on this.
      Most purchases for the army were abandoned.
      But they still buy something.
      1. LPD17
        LPD17 7 December 2017 22: 53 New
        0
        shortly. clearly.
        Bravo)!
  6. Normal ok
    Normal ok 7 December 2017 12: 30 New
    +2
    According to unofficial data, the potential value of the transaction is 312 million Brazilian reais (£ 80,3 million).

    Really inexpensive.
    1. corporal
      corporal 7 December 2017 16: 43 New
      +1
      Quote: Normal ok
      Really inexpensive.

      Yes, consider it a gift. Why's that? what
      Maybe beaten or a shifter? wassat wassat
      1. Piramidon
        Piramidon 7 December 2017 19: 11 New
        0
        Quote: Corporal
        Yes, consider it a gift. Why's that?

        Apparently carving for "needles" will cost more.
        1. corporal
          corporal 7 December 2017 20: 25 New
          0
          20-year ship on the "needles"? Elegantly live.
  7. Felix99
    Felix99 7 December 2017 13: 58 New
    0
    We must take it. We will park in Mariupol. drinks
  8. san4es
    san4es 7 December 2017 14: 41 New
    +4
    HMS Ocean landing helicopter carrier
    HMS Ocean arrives in the British Virgin Islands, Caribbean September 2017

  9. First iron-faced
    First iron-faced 8 December 2017 06: 55 New
    +2
    Their three aircraft carriers of the Invincible type were also written off relatively quickly; they did not begin to rely on the meager capabilities of the Harrier VTOL aircraft. Sheffield-class destroyers and Broadsword frigates, Swiftshur nuclear submarines, then Trafalgar and Upholder diesel-submarines also, in my opinion, served no more than 20-25 years. The British traditionally update the ship with enviable regularity.
    1. MOSKVITYANIN
      MOSKVITYANIN 9 December 2017 00: 25 New
      +1
      Greetings! They have long abandoned diesel-electric submarines as a class of ships (they drank to Canadians and Australians, good boats were no worse than German) ....
      the scarce capabilities of the VTOL Harrier

      a controversial statement, they are still in service with the United States Naval Aviation Administration and the Spanish Navy .... and they have shown themselves well in the Falklands, it all depends on their application ...
      The light aircraft carriers you indicated were created to fight against Soviet aircraft in the North Atlantic ... and they did their job, the British decided to replace them with two full-fledged multi-purpose aircraft carriers, but most likely built for the same purpose ....
      I believe that the British fleet is a worthy addition to the American for its use in Northern Europe ....
      1. First iron-faced
        First iron-faced 10 December 2017 18: 04 New
        0
        Well, along with the “Uplinkers” they also said goodbye to the diesel-electric submarines as part of their fleet, only here Canada, Romania and other countries - recipients of former British BC, when it comes to the British shipbuilding industry, which allows them to part with fairly young ships without regrets.

        Forgot to add relatively (with the same "Hornet") to the really meager capabilities of the "Harrier", ch. “Fishlessness and cancer” (which was also true of UDC “Uosp” and “Tarava”).
        And only for PL helicopters aircraft carriers do not build, even light ones, and even in Britain. And in the Norwegian and North Seas, NATO base patrol aircraft and American AUGs brought more submarines (excluding submarines / submarines). The British initially had light aircraft carriers, rather, to strengthen the combined NATO naval formations in the areas of the Baltic Straits, the English Channel and Gibraltar, where the AUG, especially accompanied by rather large escorted NKs with missiles, air defense systems and air defense systems on board (Kr and EsM "Ticonderoga" and "Spruence" / "Kidd"), there was not enough operational space, it was simply a bit crowded. Well, still to participate (“Harriers” and TDV) in the landing of units of the 3rd Royal Marines brigade at the annual exercises in Northern Norway.
        1. MOSKVITYANIN
          MOSKVITYANIN 10 December 2017 18: 56 New
          +1
          First iron-faced Well, together with the “Upholders” they also said goodbye to the diesel-electric submarines as part of their fleet

          Do you understand what you wrote? "Upholder" these were DEPL ...., i.e. type of British non-nuclear submarines ....
          http://armsdata.net/flot/095.html
          only where does Canada, Romania and other countries - recipients of former British BC

          I did not write a word about Romania fool , I wrote about countries that are either NATO or ANZUS and both the British Commonwealth of Nations ....
          when it comes to the British shipbuilding industry

          I can ask the same question to your comment from 8 December 2017 06: 55
          for submarines

          What they wanted to say did not understand ....
          The British initially had light aircraft carriers, rather, to strengthen the combined NATO naval formations in the areas of the Baltic Straits, the English Channel and Gibraltar, where the AUG, especially accompanied by rather large escorted NKs with missiles, air defense systems and air defense systems on board (Kr and EsM "Ticonderoga" and "Spruence" / "Kidd"), there was not enough operational space, it was simply a bit crowded.

          Figured it out myself?
          Light aircraft carriers were built for economic reasons, and not for military ....
          The Invincible project was the result of a compromise of very different points of view. The point at "i" was put by military operations in the South Atlantic during the Anglo-Argentine conflict 1982 of the city of "Invincible" and the veteran "Hermes" made up the core of the English squadron sent to conquer the Falkland Islands. Although the typical composition of the Invincible air wing included five aircraft and nine helicopters, during the fighting, ten Harriers and nine helicopters were based on its board. Another eighteen VTOL aircraft were on the Hermes aircraft carrier. Deck planes were able to gain and maintain air supremacy in the war zone. According to English data, 23 Argentineans were shot down by XNUMX in air battles and had no combat losses of their own.

          http://www.tinlib.ru/transport_i_aviacija/tehnika
          _i_vooruzhenie_1998_05_06 / p3.php
          The successful use of light aircraft carriers, predetermined the construction of one such ship in Spain and Italy after the war for the Falklands ...., is thought to combat the 5 th squadron of the Soviet fleet in the Mediterranean .....
          Carrier ships never entered NATO formations in the English Channel and especially in the Baltic Straits, if you knew that the Baltic Sea is shallow, you wouldn’t write such nonsense ....
          The Baltic Sea is also shallow. Depths not exceeding 50 m. Occupy about 60 percent. its area, and over 100 m. - only 12 percent.
          The shallow depths of the North and Baltic Seas, according to foreign military experts, limit the use of submarines, but allow widespread use of mine weapons throughout the water area.

          http://zvo.su/VMS/severnoe-i-baltiyskoe-morya-v-p
          lanah-nato.html
          In the Strait of Pas-de-Calais and the southern part of the North Sea, where the depths are less than 50 m., The actions of submarines are considered difficult, and in some areas completely excluded. In addition, the proximity of land, a developed network of ground airfields and naval bases create favorable conditions for the organization of anti-submarine defense here using surface ships, aircraft and especially anti-submarine helicopters. Therefore, as reported in the foreign press, the NATO command suggests that the enemy’s naval missile aircraft will mainly operate in the area.

          see there
          According to the bloc’s leadership, the enemy in the entire area of ​​“responsibility” of the NATO High Command in the English Channel will widely use mine weapons on approaches to naval bases, ports, coastal channels and naval communications centers. With this in mind, the NATO military leadership in 1973 created a united multinational force of mine-sweeping forces in the English Channel.

          see there
          Well, still to participate (“Harriers” and TDV) in the landing of units of the 3-th Royal Marines brigade at the annual exercises in Northern Norway.

          What is TDV?
          As for the involvement of the British Navy carrier aircraft in the exercises in Northern Norway, I do not have the information, not the entire 3 BrMP was involved in the exercises, but only its 2 battalion on articulated tracked armored personnel carriers from 3's and one art. battery, MP helicopters (this experience was useful to the British during the 82 war), an amphibious group participated from the Dutch ....
          But it was all babble in comparison with what is happening now ...
          Revitalization of NATO countries in the Arctic (2016)

          http://factmil.com/publ/strana/velikobritanija/ak
          tivizacija_dejatelnosti_stran_nato_v_arktike_2016
          / 9-1-0-1101
          1. First iron-faced
            First iron-faced 11 December 2017 05: 27 New
            0
            ... together with the “Upholders”, they also said goodbye to the diesel-electric submarines as part of their fleet ...

            "Upholder" and DEPL all rolled into one, or is it somehow written in a curve?

            So, they didn’t write a word about Canada to me (I know about Canada and other countries, for example, Romania, including Fr. Broadsword), as well as about the Falklands, so I don’t need to give me a certificate, your erudition is not interesting here.
            And where does the submarine in the Pas de Calais ?!
            The straits are covered from the western side by their aircraft, naturally, without going into them. And about the permanent attributed and not constant (reinforcement) composition of military groups / formations in the military sphere?
            TDV - tr. helicopter.

            .units 3rd brigade of the royal marines ...

            Units are not battalions including, huh?
            Again! and moreover, I’ve gotten it out with the Dutch!
            In general, they fell away from me with their stupidity and worthless verbosity and the same worthless "references" -quotes past the topic.
            “The more Oaks in the army, the stronger our defense” is truly about you.
            1. MOSKVITYANIN
              MOSKVITYANIN 11 December 2017 07: 29 New
              0
              First iron-faced In general, they fell away from me with their stupidity and worthless verbosity and the same worthless "references" -quotes past the topic.

              Nervous. This is good, I wrote nonsense, now be offended only by yourself, not one of your comments is supported by anything, you don’t need to consider all fools here, you can check any bullshit, and others are too lazy to write to you
              “The more Oaks in the army, the stronger our defense” is truly about you.

              Generally, get away from me

              The last time you crawled into my comments with your wretchedness, so without proving anything ....
              1. First iron-faced
                First iron-faced 11 December 2017 08: 38 New
                0
                And on to me, I have to prove to you the steroos club with the template brain. Your fate is thoughtlessly copying someone else's. Pound further! ...
                1. MOSKVITYANIN
                  MOSKVITYANIN 11 December 2017 19: 44 New
                  0
                  Quote: First iron-faced
                  And on to me, I have to prove to you the steroos club with the template brain.

                  Tell your mom about it with your dad, if they didn’t manage to educate you well and that their words should be confirmed more than by yelling ....
                  1. First iron-faced
                    First iron-faced 7 January 2018 00: 27 New
                    0
                    Therefore, the name Dubin Staerosovaya is your name, since we do not pass, for the Russian language, for sure. And you probably dreamed screams, the names are pronounced by people calmly, without effort.
                    By the way, all “blacks” like to get mentioning their parents, like you, a freak.
    2. MOSKVITYANIN
      MOSKVITYANIN 10 December 2017 18: 14 New
      0
      First iron-faced British traditionally update the ship punctually

      I wouldn’t say so unambiguously that the 13 frigates of the URN of the 23 project were mostly built in the 90s, the oldest being in operation since 1991, the newest 2002, they will be replaced by the frigate of the 26 project no earlier than 2021 .