America's war with America?

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I. United States Tent

Rumor has it that the United States is preparing for a new war. The war is supposed to be necessary for America to get out of the economic impasse in which it has been living since 2008, or more precisely, from 2006-2007, when the mortgage crisis began. (The problems of Barack Obama are the old problems of Bush Junior). The US government says that the financial crisis ended in 2009, but is it not cunning?

US GDP in 2009 fell by 3,5% compared to the previous year, and in 2010 it exceeded GDP 2009 by 1,7%. In 2011, compared to 2010, the gross domestic product growth in the USA was already 3,0%. And unemployment has declined: from record 10,2% in 2009 to 8,3% at the beginning of 2012. That is, if previously every tenth American was out of work, now every eighth or ninth either lives on welfare, or is poor at all. Progress, of course, but ...

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Give the floor to Ben Bernanke, Chairman of the US Federal Reserve:

“The unemployment rate in February coincided with expectations and did not change against the previous month - 8,3%. At the same time, the February data consolidated the achievements of the Obama administration, because in October 2011, 9% of Americans were unemployed.

At the same time, pre-crisis levels remain an unattainable goal. Since the beginning of the financial crisis, 8,8 million Americans have lost their jobs. Since then, only 3,5 million citizens have managed to find it ”("Vesti").

Jan Hatzius, chief economist at Goldman Sachs, also does not see signs of a “recovery” in the US economy: “... Of course, no one speaks of a new recession anymore, but based on the development of the labor market, a conclusion cannot be drawn about the prospect of strong economic growth. In 2012, we expect it to be at just a little over 2%. ... according to our forecasts, unemployment will decline in the 2012 year only by a bit - to 8,2%. The process of recovery is not yet completed, especially in the real estate market ”(RBC).

Currently, about 11 million mortgage borrowers in the US are bank debtors. The American government is trying to help its citizens, and at the same time the banks, but this turns out to be bad.

“The US authorities have reached agreements with five banks - Ally Financial, Bank of America, Citigroup, JP Morgan Chase and Wells Fargo to write off billions of dollars in mortgage loans to 20. It is reported by The Wall Street Journal. In exchange for write-offs, prosecutors will close cases involving banks on the illegal alienation of housing.

Under the terms of the agreement, finorganizatsii will write off part of the loans and refinance loans of the so-called mortgage “underwater mortgage”. This term refers to borrowers whose own assets are much less liabilities.

Analysts believe that the agreement will not help restore the US real estate market. Agreements will also not bring benefits to banks, since they have already reserved the necessary funds for possible losses on "bad" mortgage loans.

5 more billions of dollars will be spent on individual payments to borrowers affected by the allegedly illegal actions of banks that deprived debtors of the right to buy housing. About 750, thousands of Americans will receive thousands of dollars in 1,5-2 ”("Lenta.ru").

The sum of a couple of thousand dollars except as a straw for a drowning man can not be called. By the way, when the agreement was signed, its amount was not 20, but even 25 billion dollars. However, this does not change matters.

“Everything would be great, but the agreement will have side effects that will manifest in the foreseeable future. In 2010-2011, banks significantly slowed down the housing loss process, waiting for a settlement with the government. Now nothing prevents them from launching this process at full capacity. Housing prices last year continued to fall, dropping by almost a third compared with the peak in 2006, hence the volume of bad mortgage loans has only increased.

As a result, a million borrowers will improve their financial situation and remain with housing, but, in all likelihood, they will lose much more of their property. The blow to the economy will be extremely strong. Due to the fact that debtors who were under threat of eviction were living in their homes in the last few months in the position of squatters and could be wasting on some goals outside the mortgage, the amount of expenses of American households will inevitably decrease ”(Lenta.ru, D. Migunov).

The fact is that the mortgage in the United States turned out to be a financial pyramid, stupidly built on the rise of the cost of housing:

“Recall that the global financial crisis began in the autumn of 2007, with the collapse of US mortgage bonds. Americans did not pay mortgage loans, but re-mortgaged their homes considering the growth in their market value. That is, the difference between the value of the house now and the month before, and the balance was positive, was due to the debt. Once one of the Americans, the media in the United States even called his name, could not pay the mortgage and was forced to sell his house, which led to a small but falling in the real estate market. With the cessation of the progressive rise in prices, it turned out that almost all Americans are not able to pay for a mortgage with real money, which has fallen off the real estate market. The crisis would have ended by simply throwing several million people onto the street, but on the basis of mortgage bonds, a pyramid of financial derivatives, that is, debt securities secured by future mortgage payments, was built. Therefore, not only homeowners and creditor banks were in the red, but all those who used these securities in their financial transactions. The list of operations was extensive - loan collateral, investment of money for investment purposes, settlements between banks. It turned out that all these operations are impossible, since behind them there is a simple paper that is not provided with anything ”("Peace", D, Davydov).

Sales of homes in the US are falling:

“This is an American dream: your house and a piece of land. Which leads to a sharp increase in the cost of construction, furniture, cars (public transport to the house does not go), gasoline, etc. In addition, this is a sharp increase in demand for the most "heavy" part of lending - mortgage lending. Because they don’t buy houses for cash in the USA - almost only on credit. And this is a huge risk, because in case of problems with work / income, an American loses not just a new TV (you can watch the old one), but a roof over your head for the whole family, the whole way of life and all the money paid for the house (up to a quarter monthly income for many years).

The high level of sales of single-family houses is the best indicator of the health of the economy. By the way, it was from this sector that the global economic crisis of the end of the zero years began. From the peak in 2006, home sales fell fourfold. And in 2011-m fell another quarter. With strong fluctuations by month, sales show a consistently low level and no upward trends ”(source: Gazeta.ru, A. Mikhailov).

One of the manifestations of the mortgage crisis and rising unemployment in the United States have become tent camps. Currently, thousands of Americans live in tents across the country.

America's war with America?


“A dark-haired woman in a black cotton dress is a real estate agent selling mobile mobile homes. Rather, a former agent. Since January, 2008, a woman is forced to live in a purple tent, broken under an elm.

“The market in which I worked simply collapsed,” she says. - Banks stopped giving money to my customers.

Previously, Imelda sold at least six houses in a month. And then the mortgage crisis in the United States began to grow into a financial one. Her first clients lost their homes. And then she herself discovered that she was not able to pay the bills. Imelda’s house was auctioned off and she was on the street.

Friends bought her a tent and brought her to this tent city in Ontario in the suburbs of Los Angeles ”(source: Focus.ua).

Above the tent camp, by the way, the American flag flies “proudly” - an inverted one, symbolizing a “deep crisis”.

The ship of the American Dream crashed against the cliffs of market reality:

“It is hot and dusty in the camp, and there are much more dirty tents than clean ones. Many campers sit on drugs, and good nights are rare here.

Not far from Imelda’s tent there is a railroad, along which containers with trains move along. They are traveling from the cargo port to Long Beach. Some containers are green, they contain China Shipping. Cheap Chinese imports have long been prevalent in the US market, creating a huge trade deficit (the excess of imports over exports). This, in turn, led to an increase in US foreign debt and weakened the dollar.

“From our tent, we see American debt increasing even more with each train passing by,” said Ronda Farnsworth, a thirty-year-old, corpulent resident of the town, whose tent stands apart from the others ”(Focus.ua).

“More recently, David worked in North Carolina as a driver. At work, he broke his right leg. Since there was no insurance, the treatment resulted in him at $ 40000, turning into a bankrupt and leaving homeless. The remaining money was enough to buy a bus ticket to Ontario, the place in which he grew up.

“My American dream has fallen apart,” says David. “I spent two nights on the bus crying like a child” (same source).

What do they live here for? Some camp residents - like other camps - receive 162 dollars per month (“grocery cards”). Someone saved the savings. Someone manages to find a job, although there are lines of dozens of people waiting for 8 dollars per hour. What job? Any. Wash offices, toilets, carry weights.



Here is another tent camp in New Jersey:

“At first glance, this is reminiscent of a summer tourist camp. Tents on the edge and food on a fire. The difference is that people settled in this forest live in such conditions all year round and this is their last and only refuge. History the registrations are the same for everyone here - first the person loses his job and then the apartment, because there is nothing to pay for it. Pole Nina lost both. Ten years ago, she came to New York on the advice of a friend to work as a nanny in a family with young children. She lived there too. Before the 2008 crisis, everything was great.

“I had a good job, a lot of money. I sent them to Poland one daughter, the other, the third, also for the maintenance of his house. And then the work was gone and the problems started, ”says Nina.

In the current American home of Nina, a small kitchen, a bed, and even something resembling a chest of drawers fit around eight square meters. You can live, she says, except that the pipe from the middle of the stove-burzhuyki completely rusted and broke ... "(Channel One, B. Koltsov).

Material from "BBC":

“The leader of Panorama, Hilary Anderson ... discovers that, for many, tent camps are the last refuge in their lives.

30 tents, hidden in a forest belt along the side of an expressway in the suburb of Ann Arba, Michigan, have become a permanent home for people who have lost their jobs and those who are unable to pay rent due to low incomes.

The living conditions are unsanitary, there are no toilets, electricity is only in one common use tent, where camp residents gather around the stove for heating in the midst of winter.

The roofs of the tents sag under the weight of ice and snow, and rain often drips on sleeping faces.

Such tent settlements have increased in the 55 environs of American major cities, they demonstrate the harsh reality of the crisis of American beggars.

According to the census, 47 of millions of Americans nowadays live below the poverty line due to a steady increase in unemployment over the past 50 years ”(source of translation).

There are a total of about 12 people living in 5000 large tent camps in the USA. 13 million unemployed, of whom three million lost their jobs under Obama.



The place of residence of the American unemployed often serve as cars.

“An article from the German“ Der Spiegel ”describes a typical case of an American couple, completely crushed by what happened:

“Chanel Sabedra was on the street. She and her husband have been sleeping in the car for almost three weeks. “We never thought that this could happen to us, never,” says Sabedra and begins to cry. “I am not a child, I can take care of myself one way or another, the same goes for my husband, but (my children) are too small to go through these trials.” She has three children: nine, five and three years old.

“We had a house south of here in San Bernardino,” says Chanel. Her husband lost his job at building prefabricated houses in July 2009. Utility shut off gas. “We were hot on the barbecue to bathe the kids,” she says. Being unable to continue to pay the rent, the Sabedra family was evicted from their home in August ”(source: Nologo.su).

By the way, for spending the night in a car in many American states (for example, in California) it is necessary to pay a fine.

“Vinis, California, is just one of the places where people are arrested for living in vehicles. In the past, Vinis was popular among those who live in campers. A wave of arrests among camp residents forced the remaining at liberty to clean up their mobile homes. The following is an excerpt from an article published on the Dayly Kos website:

“They took Eric when he changed the battery in the car. Accused that he slept in his car. A few days later they went to 3 Street and took his camper, because its owner was in prison, and therefore the car did not move for 72 hours. On Saturday, they combed 7 Street and took Bear and his mobile home. They also towed camper Elizabeth, but I don’t know if they took her herself, although no one has seen her since. The police moved onto 6 Street and took a white van there, which is always parked there. Every day they take from one to four campers. Soon no one will be left. ”

If you have a black band, then very soon the authorities will try to take away from you everything that is left. The United States can be a very cruel place if you are unlucky in life ”(Nologo.su).

Many unemployed and homeless people in the United States compare what is happening with America today with the times of the Great Depression, and tent camps are already called “guvervilles.”



Already Zbigniew Brzezinski predicts a decline for America: “... if America continues to slide on an inclined plane in domestic politics and leads a short-sighted foreign policy, then its decline will definitely happen” (“Komsomolskaya Pravda”, T. Bezrukova).

Another quote from Mr. Brzezinski:

“Yes, we are a democracy trying to survive in a difficult world, implementing a reasonable foreign policy. But this is possible under the condition that the people inhabiting our country are also reasonable and sane. Otherwise we will not be able to carry out the tasks before us.

I have to admit, the American people are extremely ignorant. He has absolutely no idea about the outside world. There is no such subject in our public schools: world history. We teach children a very patriotic American story. But in reality it is an embellished “Christmas” story, far from the complex and contradictory realities of the past. Take, for example, the relationship with the indigenous people of America - the Indians. No matter how offensive it is, it must be admitted that the first ethnic cleansing "in the name of the Law" took place on American soil! Thousands of Indians were expelled from their lands under President Jackson ... And take geography. We do not teach it! Approximately 52% of current applicants of American colleges can not show on the map where New York is located. 70% enrolling in higher education in 2003-2010-s could not find Iraq - the country with which we fought! Somehow, future students were asked to identify a certain large area, shaded on the map in blue. So, 30% of them could not determine that it was the Pacific Ocean ... You smile. But this is not at all funny. Hence the incredibly lightweight attitude of a large number of Americans to foreign policy issues. And how is this international problem presented in public discussions? Often extremely relieved, only in black and white, with the prevailing demagogy ... "(“Komsomolskaya Pravda”, T. Bezrukova).



So, according to Brzezinski, a well-known patriot and propagandist of America, the US domestic policy is currently “slipping on an inclined plane”, and he has doubts about the soundness of foreign policy, apparently because Americans do not know either history or geography, but to think learn from the speeches of demagogues who cannot find the Pacific Ocean or Iraq on maps.

There is no need to go far for examples: “We must help democratize Afghanistan, Iraq and other African countries.” This is what George W. Bush said.

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So, the crisis in the US is expanding and deepening, and he has no end in sight. Against its background, the number of “hate groups” and extremist anti-government groups in America is growing rapidly. The peak of growth was in 2011 year.

“The 2011 figures for the year represent a rise for the eleventh year in a row and the highest since the Center began to track the hate groups in 1980. In 2000, only 602 of such groups existed in the country, whereas in 2011, the number of such groups reached 1018.

Perhaps even more disturbing than the small but steady growth of such groups over the past few years has been the parabolic growth of anti-government “patriotic” militia groups. The number of such groups that are separated from hate groups from 2010 to 2011 increased by 55 per year - from 824 to 1274-x. In 2008, there were only 149 of such groups, and already in 2009, their number increased to 512.

The center and other analysts attribute this growth to the increasingly widespread dissatisfaction with the role of the government as well as anger towards Obama "(source: The Huffington Post, Brian Levine - Mixednews).



17 September 2011 on the political scene was the movement "Capture Wall Street". The main demands of the protesters are connected with the smoothing of economic inequality in the United States: an increase in taxes on the richest people in America; reducing unemployment. Demonstrators also protest against the activities of various financial institutions, calling trading speculators "financial terrorists."

18 March 2012 Movement celebrated its birthday:

The Occupy Wall Street movement celebrated half a year since its foundation, reports Agence France-Presse. The protest ended with clashes with the police, several dozen people were detained.

First, the protesters marched on Wall Street. According to Reuters, 15 people were detained during the march, and three police officers were injured.



Then, in the evening of March 17, around 600 traffic participants went to Zukkotti Park. They sang and beat the drums. The protesters had plans to set up a tent camp, but the police prevented them. Detentions began around midnight. During 20 minutes, the police cleared the park of movement activists ”("Lenta.ru").

“The guards began arresting the protesters after some of them tried to set up a campground in order to settle for a long time in the park. When 100 police officers began to arrest the perpetrators, the demonstrators sat on the ground and refused to leave. The police had to put on plastic handcuffs for several dozen people and drag them into police buses. Zukotti Park was cleared of demonstrators after 20 minutes after the start of a police operation ”(RIA News").

An offshoot of Occupy Wall Street is the Occupy San Francisco movement. 3 April RIA News" reported that more of his 80 participants who refused to leave the captured building were arrested. The two-story building belongs to the Catholic Diocese, and once there was a music school. The protesters insisted that the building be used as an educational or medical center. According to the Catholic Diocese, the building was empty for about a year and a half.

“Members of the Capture San Francisco movement barricaded themselves in the building on the evening of April 1 and, apparently, intended to stay there for a long time. There were no casualties during the arrests ”("Lenta.ru").

Earlier, in mid-February, 2012, the Russian Foreign Ministry noted that the US authorities are showing unreasonable cruelty towards activists of the movement. Russian Foreign Minister Ombudsman for Human Rights, Democracy and the Rule of Law Konstantin Dolgov said: “The reaction of the American authorities is obvious elements of undue harshness and disproportionate use of force. According to estimates of human rights activists, since the fall of 2011, when the campaign “Capture Wall Street” began, more than 6 thousand people have been detained in US 110 cities ”. Dolgov added that “such actions cause particular bewilderment against the background of the constant accentuation by the American side of the need to respect human rights by other states, including the right to freedom of expression, processions and manifestations” (RIA News").

By the way, the actions of "Capture Wall Street" in New York last year cost the budget of this city 17 million dollars. “According to Raymond Kelly, the head of the megalopolis police, the authorities had to spend such money on overtime work for the police officers who took part in providing security during the actions of the“ invaders ”. He noted that often demonstrations were unpredictable and demanded increased attention from law enforcement agencies. “You never know what to expect from unplanned events,” Raymond Kelly stressed."Vesti").



Against the backdrop of protests and the growing number of "hate groups" - that is, clearly distinguishable internal state enemy, whose ranks are dangerously multiplying, threatening democracy ... with democracy - Barack Obama 16 March signed a decree on "martial law for peacetime." Note: for a peaceful time.

"This Executive Decree was published on the website of the US government WhiteHouse.gov 16 March 2012, entitled "Preparing Resources for National Defense".

In essence, this is a martial law plan for peacetime and it gives the president the power to withdraw practically everything that is deemed necessary for "national security."

It is designed for peacetime, since the title of the decree says “readiness”. According to this decree, the heads of ministries of agriculture, energy, health and social services, transport, defense and trade were delegated the right to seize and distribute food, livestock, fertilizers, agricultural equipment, all forms of energy, water resources, all forms of civilian transport (which means any vehicles, ships and airplanes), as well as any other materials, including building materials, wherever their removal seems possible ”(“ The Intel Hub ”, Chris Kitze - Mixednews).

In fact, this is an update of a similar law from 1994 of the year, which was considered obsolete - that is, nothing new and frightening actually happened. However, according to some journalists, such laws are not to the American democracy:

"March 16 The White House issued an executive order entitled" Readiness of National Defense Resources. " The document is striking in its arrogance and flagrant violation of the constitution. It states that in the event of war or an emergency situation in a country, the federal government has the authority to take control of virtually all aspects of American society. Food, livestock, agricultural equipment, industrial production, the economy, energy, transport, hospitals, other health facilities, water resources, defense and construction - all of this can fall under the direct management of Obama. The order gives the president the right to dispose of all these enormous resources at his discretion during a national crisis.

“The United States must have an industrial and technical base capable of meeting the requirements of national defense and capable of contributing to the technical superiority of military equipment in peacetime and during a state of emergency in the country,” the order says. - The internal industrial and technical base is the basis of national defense readiness. The powers granted by this legislation should be used to strengthen this base and to ensure its ability to respond to the needs of the US national defense. ”

In short, this order gives Obama the opportunity to impose martial law. Now he has the authority of a dictator. This order is a direct encroachment on personal freedoms, on the rights to private property and on the rule of law. This is a flagrant violation of the constitution. The executive boldly appropriates powers contrary to the provisions of the constitution, without even asking permission from the congress. This order gives Obama a blank check to create a centralized authoritarian state. Such a law would be more logical to search somewhere in Venezuela, Hugo Chávez or in Vladimir Putin’s Russia ”(“ The Washington Times ”, Jeffrey T. Kuhner - "InoSMI.ru").

Like this. Americans are already comparing America with Russia. The world democratic hegemon has come!

It is not surprising that with the growth of anti-government sentiment, that is, with a pronounced internal enemy, the American government constantly switches the attention of the population - it’s also the electorate, by the way, and elections are not far off - to an external enemy.

It would be nice to start a war with this most external enemy: to get hold of the mineral and raw material base, and to organize an industrial uprising due to the growth of the military-industrial complex, and at the same time create somewhere another island of democracy. For example, in Syria. Or in Iran. Maybe even in China. The difficulty lies not in Obama's peace loving, but in the fact that there is no easy war anywhere. To have time to make war and win before the elections — that would be when they started ...

A potential adversary of the USA is Iran, suspected of secretly creating nuclear weapons. weapons. In addition, Israel insists on joint military operations with America. But for now, Washington is offering Tel Aviv its powerful anti-bunker bombs in exchange for delaying an air strike on Iran. In general, America is thinking - obviously, not wanting to do anything on this potential "front" before the fall elections.

There is also Syria, on which the US has already spent 25 million dollars, despite its crisis. And, of course, spend more. But these expenses, along with verbal demagogy at the “Meetings of the Friends of Syria” - in Tunisia and Turkey - and also that the unrest in Syria continues for the second year, and that there are no interventions, they speak about relatively peaceful intentions. There will be no invasion by the United States or NATO in Syria. 330.000 soldiers of the Assad army, the successful suppression by the Syrian president of oppositionists who thrive anywhere, for example, in Paris, but not in Syria, the air defense system and everything else, including chemical weapons, will not allow America confused in geography, but dreaming of "buffer zones “, Get in Damascus easy prey.

China? But here it’s rather a show of US positions in the Asia-Pacific region. Yes, the States are afraid of the growing power of the PRC, and do not plan to reduce military spending due to their presence in the APR, but this is ordinary geopolitics, not military strategy. Pure madness - to fight with nuclear China. In addition, the US economy, as Americans who have been unemployed have long realized, is entirely Chinese. However, what the hell is not joking? .. That will be the belligerent Mitt Romney, who is already declaring an increase in the defense budget of the United States, as president - and will start a war with Iran, and with China, and even with North Korea. A lover of large warships does not understand that such a war is not the same thing as indulging in a UAV in Pakistan ...

Or maybe America - on its sovereign happiness - has found an internal enemy in the form of “Capture Wall Street” and other bad groups, and soon will create a democracy of the Orwellian 1984 sample with the Ministry of Truth and Big Brother?

The above-mentioned “extraordinary” decree from 16 of March 2012 of the year, signed by Obama against the background of rebellious “groups” and “invaders” in the States, leads to certain thoughts. Like it or not, democracy (the twin sister of demagogy) has always been, is and will be the power not of the people, but over the people. Why? Because there is simply no other power, and there can be no. Any power is certainly exercised over someone: there is a subject, which means there will be an object. It is ridiculous to suppose that in politics an object coincides with a subject. We all have a craving laugh, talking about the "servants of the people" or about the authorities' fight against corruption. Any authority has the right to violence - the right is monopoly. And there is no difference in democracy, for example, with autocracy or any dictatorship.

Performances of participants in various movements in the United States are suppressed with the help of truncheons, tear gas and special means. George W. Bush and his associates to the whole world are famous for their love of execution and torture. Did America think up from unsuccessful attempts to build democracy abroad to move towards the creation of a “centralized authoritarian state” (Jeffrey T. Kuhner) - directly in Washington, New York, Los Angeles, and so on?

After all, this will allow - and quite quickly - to solve many economic and political issues.

Firstly (and immediately secondly), within the framework of the newly-built American GULAG, enterprises with extremely cheap labor will be created. The Americans will soon start to compete with the Chinese, who work a few dollars a day at 12 in their assembly plants. This will solve the economic component of the problem of confrontation with China, and at the same time the problem of unemployment. Yes, and housing issues will disappear by themselves. All will be occupied, fed and provided with beds - and not in the tents blown by the winds, but in the cozy concrete chambers.

Thirdly, the political problem of the authorities will be solved in an instant: the enemies of the people will be found - those who are to blame for all American troubles. All these “Capture” and “hate groups”, as well as other extremists and their hangers-on, will be announced as satellites of some villains who manage subversive activities directly from Guantanamo and plunged world democracy into the depths of the mortgage crisis. The authorities will start planting the enemies of the people in jails, on electric chairs - and it will go, the GDP growth curve will soon form an 45-degree angle with the x-axis. It is possible that someone will be planted or executed in vain, having overdone, but, as they say, they are chopping wood - the chips are flying.

Fourth, Obama, who may not be chosen in the fall, by imposing an “emergency” decree, will receive the power of a dictator and preserve the throne in the White House. (Here we find an explanation to why militant Hillary Clinton is still not fired). The dictatorship in the United States will give the country's economy continuous advantages. Election savings alone ("... to incline voters to Obama or McCain, as well as to all those who fought for 435 seats in the House of Representatives and 34 from 100 seats in the Senate, was spent 5,3 billion dollars" - newsru.com) will allow to build and launch such a large GULAG in the country that Stalin never dreamed of. Already, many residents of tent camps consider it a success for 60 dollars a day, and many are willing to work hard for their daily bread - in the literal sense of the word. After all, now in the States - about 47 millions of poor people. (Note: "... in the US, the poverty line is not measured by a set of indicators, but only by family income. Today, the level adopted by the authorities is a family of four people living on income of less than 21954 dollars per year" - "Russian service" BBC ").

Of course, the combination of an internal enemy and an external enemy would be more advantageous and more productive. An external enemy would enable the state to effectively suppress the internal enemy without any particular noise, switching all attention to “interventionists” from the outside. But only in impoverished America there is neither the means nor the power to create and maintain the image of two major enemies at once.

But gradually, over time, in a dictatorial way of sorting out the internal enemy and strengthening the economy, the new totalitarian America may become puzzled by the search for an external enemy ... However, it’s not necessary to look for it: China, angry that Americans themselves have learned how to make DVD players and cell phones and sell them by weight, might think about building communism on a star-striped territory.
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  1. +37
    April 5 2012 08: 17
    That's how they live - democratically ...
    1. Dimitrxnumx
      +26
      April 5 2012 08: 44
      I even felt sorry for these people living democratically ... Are there really so many of them? it would be better if the Amer government donated money not to the military budget, but to correct the economic situation that they had. And then these democratic people will sit another year or two in tents, and they will take and arrange a revolution.
      1. Sergh
        +19
        April 5 2012 09: 24
        DimitrxnumxYes, I read a little how sorry they were for my government, already a tear came ...

        Millions of coffins for U.S. residents were accidentally found near Atlanta, Georgia. A local resident accidentally stumbled upon a strange territory not protected by anyone.

        Among the grass burnt out under the sun and stunted rare shrubs stretched an endless wall of neatly folded into each other (17 pieces) rectangular containers of black ribbed plastic, in the amount of 500 thousand to a million pieces - it was not possible to count them. And it looked as if they had only been delivered yesterday - no dust on them, no dirt, no fallen leaves ...

        Continuation =>

        http://canyon.rga.ru/forum/showthread.php?t=13949
        1. +19
          April 5 2012 09: 53
          I always believed that ordinary citizens themselves are not enemies to us, our main enemies are the military, political, economic machines that created the political elites.
          1. +17
            April 5 2012 10: 24
            Quote: GurZa
            I always believed that ordinary citizens themselves are not enemies to us, our main enemies are the military, political, economic machines that created the political elites.

            Initially, yes, but ...
            People with little education and accustomed to trusting demagogues pose a threat to anyone. Especially when they are driven to despair. No "machine" is capable of functioning without such "screws". Historical example: the population of the 3rd Reich are accomplices in the crimes of the regime, or the people are the victim? Topic for discussion.
            1. Charon
              +12
              April 5 2012 11: 19
              Quote: Ziksura
              3rd Reich population complicit in regime crime, or victim nation? The topic for discussion.


              There is nothing to discuss.
              According to the laws of the Reich, they did not commit crimes. If they won, then they would spread their laws to the whole planet and become heroes of legends. And their opponents would become criminals and victims of plutocracy and communism.
              But they lost. And according to the laws of the victors, the repentant Germans became victims, the persistent - accomplices.
              1. Jaromir
                +20
                April 5 2012 16: 01
                Well!!! Someone else wants to go to America! .. And 10-15 years ago, the word America was pronounced aspirated! Until her brother-2 was interrupted! .. crying
        2. +13
          April 5 2012 11: 03
          Quote: Sergh
          Millions of coffins for U.S. residents were accidentally found near Atlanta.

          Not sickly kalbasit states! If this car goes into the distribution, then a million will be few, given the number of trunks per capita.
          1. +18
            April 5 2012 11: 17
            Quote: Dmitriy69
            given the number of trunks per capita.

            Sorry, I made a reservation, I wanted to say: "on the ass of the population." About amers it will be more accurate laughing
          2. beech
            0
            April 5 2012 20: 38
            many residents of the tent camps consider working for $ 60 a day a fortune.
            Nekhilo so earn two rubles a day !!!
            1. +6
              April 5 2012 21: 28
              Quote: beech

              many residents of the tent camps consider working for $ 60 a day a fortune.
              Nekhilo so earn two rubles a day !!!

              At work, he broke his right leg.
              Since there was no insurance, the treatment resulted in him $ 40000,
              also it’s not unhealthy to sit in a cast for a month for lyam with interest, pah pah
      2. +12
        April 5 2012 10: 06
        Empire of Evil. They do not hide (there is even a Manument) that the world's population should be 300ml and they should work for 15 corporations that should rule the world.
        I wouldn’t believe it if I didn’t see what is happening in the world. There are mega-rich people - then the pit ...... and we. That's all gentlemen.
        The only good news is that Russia still does not support this scenario (perhaps not all)
        1. rolik
          +1
          April 5 2012 15: 59
          correction is not 300 ml., but 500 ml.
        2. islandpan
          +2
          April 5 2012 17: 09
          The only good news is that Russia still does not support this scenario
          Russia will join the WTO soon! let's see how events develop
      3. ISO
        ISO
        +6
        April 5 2012 15: 38
        If there are few former military men among them, then they will not be satisfied, but if they had an army on the basis of a draft, then do not go to a fortuneteller. And so the police will beat them, they will degrade to the level of scourges and will modestly bomb in garbage dumps
      4. vozn_ser
        +6
        April 5 2012 19: 39
        There is such an empirical law of economics - the pyramids must collapse.
        Any paper not provided with a material asset has value, only while they believe in it. Mavrodi's papers were appreciated while they believed in them.
        The dollar is the same pyramid. He is not provided for, only the lazy did not write about it. Sooner or later, it must collapse. True, no one knows when this collapse will begin - yesterday, tomorrow, in a month or in a year. That's when we really know what the word "crisis" means.
      5. beech
        0
        April 5 2012 20: 34
        if they stop continuing to finance the army in the same volume as right now, then in a couple of years it will turn into a Russian model of 1994-95
      6. +3
        April 5 2012 20: 46
        A reduction in the military budget will lead to even greater unemployment and a social explosion. Here is such a cat. The flywheel is untwisted and it is very dangerous to stop it, but it is impossible not to stop it either, as it is being carried away and can smash the USA to smithereens. In order not to do amers, the result will be the same. Hello!
      7. 0
        April 5 2012 21: 00
        And they’ll do it right.
      8. CCCP1980
        -1
        April 5 2012 23: 58
        lost nest <demokrat> wassat
      9. fktrctqxbr
        0
        April 6 2012 14: 19
        Full nonsense of the author. In a country where unemployment and low living standards,
        1 - Attracts migrants from Mexico and Latin America
        2 - The US Army is half composed of mercenaries of other countries.
        3 - The institute of disinfirmation policy is well developed in the USA; they can present everything that is suitable on a silver platter, each time it is necessary to double-check their statements and articles.
        4 - They have international financial funds and banks
        5 - The United States has the right to print dollars in unlimited, uncontrolled quantities.

        And what we see is people, they are people who will live poorly always in any economic situation in the country (we call them loafers). And worst of all, it can be activists in general.

        Think with your head and don’t laugh at emotions.
    2. vadimus
      +11
      April 5 2012 10: 45
      Show all this to “our” America lovers ... Nehai admire! Not a nice future ...
      1. oiuy
        -39
        April 5 2012 10: 52
        Mercedes next to the "homeless" tent is eloquent and never happens! laughing and what Russian bomzhiki ride? lol Not an article - but a miracle of the Surkov agitation industry! A nightmare of some kind ... good
        1. +24
          April 5 2012 11: 22
          Russian homeless people, mostly alcoholics who drank their own property.
          And in the photo there are people who not so long ago had cars, houses and good work. And they lost all this through no fault of their own.
          1. +7
            April 5 2012 14: 53
            For some homeless people in Moscow, he asked: "Why do they live like this?", And the majority answered; "We like it so much." Only 25% approximately lost their homes in fires, drank, threw realtors, relatives, etc., and the rest have houses, relatives and registration in various areas, so I agree that in the USA, fuller and fuller every day. By the way, in the Russian Federation, when a homeless person turns to the state for help, they will help restore documents, arrange them in social hostels, not mansions, of course, but there is a roof over their heads. They just don’t want, but freedom is free.
            1. beech
              +2
              April 5 2012 20: 36
              yeah, they’ll give the house \ dormitory, figs show and all !!! Now even without homeless people there are a lot of people who need to be resettled from old housing, to give officers around the apartment !!
        2. +25
          April 5 2012 11: 34
          Quote: oiuy
          and the miracle of the Surkov agitation industry! A nightmare of some kind ...


          Dear, change the record is no longer relevant and acts only on gullible infantile "hamsters" for which all countries except the USA and Western Europe are a bunch of peoples DE_B_I_L_O_V who do not know how to live properly, civilized and democratic. And it's time to replace Surkov's propaganda with Shevchenko-Leontiev's or Kurginyan-Starik's. It is necessary to teach everything. even how to troll patriots.
          Or the owners have not yet instructed their Жsacrifices Оorganized Пropagandas Аnt Russian forces
          1. +14
            April 5 2012 11: 54
            Quote: Ascetic
            Victims of Organized Advocacy of Anti-Russian Forces

            Stanislav, welcome! This abbreviation is something! good
            1. Jaromir
              +14
              April 5 2012 15: 57
              And the trolls are exhausted !!! And the farther, the more obvious! An idol with polished bull eggs bends over, his maser ..
        3. +25
          April 5 2012 11: 41
          Quote: oiuy
          Mercedes next to the "homeless" tent is eloquent and never happens!

          laughing laughing laughing
          Honestly, when I saw this photo I thought: "Now there will be" smart guys "who will shout - in America, even homeless people drive Mercedes."
          And then he began to doubt himself: “Well, people cannot be so“ frostbitten. ”In vain. You have to believe in yourself.

          Judging by the fact that in the photo of the Mercedes S-class of the model nicknamed "ruble forty" among us, this man had a good income several years ago, very good, and now he is a homeless person. This is what the article is about. I have already told you more than once, read carefully.
        4. +14
          April 5 2012 15: 52
          oiuy,
          The question is, and to hell with me Mercedes if there is no where to live.

          Unlike the American dream, I have a simple Russian dream. That Russia was left alone, that the stolen oligarchs and bureaucrats took away all the stolen goods and went somewhere for permanent residence, and did not prevent us from living. And we will rise again. how many times has this happened in history.
        5. +4
          April 5 2012 19: 10
          In all its glory, your America, that’s its essence. Damn, and we are starting to introduce this - bailiffs also throw people out onto the street.
    3. kontrzasada20
      +8
      April 5 2012 13: 28
      Good photo at the beginning of the article. What is the intensity of the struggle for human rights? It can be seen how the girl asks massage therapists to provide her services. (With rubber special equipment) That would be our shoblu human rights there.
    4. Odinplys
      +2
      April 6 2012 02: 27
      This scenario would be more suitable these days ..... than a discussion of a possible war on our continent ...
      1. Neighbor
        +3
        April 6 2012 19: 25
        A wonderful article about rotting America.sii !!! fellow
        And what pictures are beautiful! So they need ..........! am The hedgehog understood - sooner or later - their entire system would begin to crumble. They will also run away from there - like rats from a ship. And no war will help - if only because their mercenaries and murderers - $ must be paid regularly, fed and dressed. Yes, and they are already especially no one to attack. From those who stayed - you can get .... ........ so that little will not seem! Another year or two - and there will be a denouement.
        If only for the third world one - one wants to live calmly, work, raise children.
        Quote: Ziksura
        The countries of "developed democracies" have already devoured their entire future for two generations to come. It is necessary to knock out their support in the form of the dollar as the main world currency and all the gloss evaporate for a long time, and perhaps forever. They understand this and will fight for this support desperately. Get ready

        In-in! About what and speech. Get ready - how interesting - to stock up the stew? If it starts, it can end with the fact that the whole planet will be smashed to .........!
  2. +21
    April 5 2012 08: 17
    As always, Oleg has a lot of arguing material for his ideas, which, of course, is a plus. And from the foregoing, everyone will draw conclusions for themselves that are closer and more understandable to him. For myself, I conclude that - "It's good where we are not!" and when they begin to tell me about the beautiful life outside of Russia, I think that these guys and girls, especially, do not think about what real life is and what its deep meaning is. Perhaps I expressed myself too pathetically, but the one who thinks and wants to understand and agree with me! Warm greetings to everyone! drinks
    1. +11
      April 5 2012 08: 41
      Greetings Valery! Totally agree with you! Of course, I have never been abroad before, but seeing the mistakes of others and the reality shows that abroad she is so wracky and stout, and the filling is not yet known what. Their standard of living is higher (I mean social), but now they pay for it in full. Life is not mediocre; it is bad.
      1. +5
        April 5 2012 09: 04
        tronin.maxim,
        Salute, Maxim! Thank you for your support and understanding. But, after all, the way it is! And people who think and seek to know more come to such conclusions. drinks
      2. +9
        April 5 2012 10: 54
        Quote: tronin.maxim
        Of course, I’ve never been abroad, but seeing the mistakes of others

        In order to understand this, you do not need to travel abroad, sometimes it is enough to look out the window.
        An example from my life.
        There was one lady in our city: a chain of stores, mansions, a whole car park under a thick booty, gloss and shine, and envious glances in the trail ... In fact, it turned out: a loan on a loan, a debt on a debt, the whole business was initially unprofitable- all for the sake of dust in the eyes, so that under the outer gloss they lend ... Why a story from my life? Yes, the father-in-law was caught as a surety for one of the loans. And he comes from western Ukraine. Nda ... I figured out who "to throw on the grandmother." As a result, a lady in the city makes repairs of apartments with her once sleek little hands to pay off debts, and bailiffs call her father-in-law to her job.

        The countries of "developed democracies" have already devoured their entire future for two generations to come. It is worth knocking out their support in the form of the dollar as the main world currency and all the gloss evaporates for a long time, and perhaps forever. They understand this and will fight for this support desperately. Get ready.
        1. +3
          April 5 2012 14: 30
          Quote: Ziksura
          It is worth knocking out their support in the form of the dollar as the main world currency and the entire gloss will evaporate for a long time, and possibly forever.

          The dollar is not a support, but a stone on the neck.
          1. +3
            April 5 2012 14: 43
            Quote: wasjasibirjac
            The dollar is not a support, but a stone on the neck.

            On our and most of the world, no doubt YES. But for the Euro-Atlantic alliance, the main pillar.
    2. +6
      April 5 2012 10: 10
      Hello Valery.
      That's right. Nevertheless, we still live in Russia in our hearts and souls. A west stomach and a greedy mind ... People do not spare. After all, they have a monument on which it is clearly written. -Population of the planet-no more than 30 roofing felts 300 ml of people (slaves) ..... The question remains ... Slaves for whom ??? (I am sure that for the western mega-aligarchs)
      1. +4
        April 5 2012 11: 29
        Quote: Manager
        That's right. Nevertheless, we still live in Russia in our hearts and souls. A west stomach and a greedy mind

        Hi Maxim! Old woman Vanga used to say - "Russia is the soul of the World ..." But these words mean something. drinks
      2. Darn
        +5
        April 5 2012 12: 43
        Why do people feel sorry? They have a characteristic phrase in their country that if a person is rich then God loves him, and if he is not rich then God has turned away from him. This
        no longer human. This is how during the war the Japanese put their inhumane experiments on people and said that they were not people. THIS IS A LOG AND you can do anything with a log.
    3. ISO
      ISO
      +1
      April 5 2012 15: 49
      About the fact that "It's good where we are not!" I completely agree (although there is a lot to play around with) But existence in our state is also not full of deep meaning, we are working to drive raw materials to the "golden billion", we are trying not to contradict the world hegemon, we are taking our own production to the neighbors ... ..sia with Libya Medvedev for some reason are going to sit in the government.
      So we can only hope that this will change in the future, and for now we will live here and keep a fig in the pocket for the hypocritical world community of democratic liberals
    4. Justdimich
      0
      9 July 2014 14: 54
      How can you judge the situation there by 20 photos of homeless people? The number of homeless people in Russia is estimated from 1.2 million to 3 million (average 2.1 million) (http://www.rg.ru/2013/10/09/bezdomnie.html), and in the USA from 2.5 to 3.5 ( 3 average) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%91%D0%B5%D0%B7%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%BD
      % D1% 8B% D0% B5_% D0% B2_% D0% A1% D0% A8% D0% 90). The population of Russia is 143,5 million, the USA is 313,9 million, therefore, dividing the number of "homeless people" by the population of countries, we get 1.4634146334% and 0.9569377995, respectively. Well, who's rotting here? Who is rotten inside?
  3. 0
    April 5 2012 08: 31
    No. Nicht, dear Author, this is "pouring from empty to empty" .....
    In my opinion, even a comprehensive view, for all its possible total "blur", should be more specific in particular moments, which is not observed in the article ...
    1. +19
      April 5 2012 12: 15
      Quote: Yves762
      In my opinion, even a complex opinion, for all its possible total "blurring", should be more specific in particular moments, which is not observed in the article.


      My cousin since 1992. lives and works in France (French citizen since 2002). So she and her husband (a French businessman is engaged in the transportation and delivery of wine, the owner of a small logistics company) NEVER took consumer and mortgage loans, Yves (her husband) took loans only for development business (renewal of the fleet of heavy trucks). For many years they rented a house in a small town in the south of France for 5000 francs (there was no euro yet) per month. Although they could easily take a mortgage at 3% per annum (we have 15-20%), but then they would have to abandon business development .. People who succumbed to the bait of interest bankers and scored loans for "life" (houses, furniture, clothes, rest etc.) they call the word DRAMMEN (if freely translated into Russian). All propaganda in Europe is sharpened on the motto "Buy and consume today and do not think what will happen tomorrow!" Actually the same thing is being imposed on us, and we feel it especially well in Moscow. Due to the fact that they endured and did not succumb to this bait, they have their own house, the money invested in the business helped not only to repay a large loan, but also began to bring more significant income, which allowed her to help her mother and sister who live in Ukraine with her husband's relatives older sister (after they were expelled by Tajiks from Dushanbe in 1993) to build a separate house.
      And now, when the Americans have been taught to live beyond their means and with the help of exaggerated loans, they begin to "search" for the guilty and external victims in order to move the arrows away from themselves.
  4. A word
    +6
    April 5 2012 08: 35
    Guys do not live in their own pockets for a lot of time, so they have come ..... ordinary people suffer, as usual, however.
  5. +8
    April 5 2012 08: 47
    Considering the number of firearms in the hands of the population of the most "free" country in the world and the hands of Americans who have grown out of the habit of creative labor, it can be assumed that instead of plowing gardens and vegetable gardens to feed themselves and their children in conditions of total unemployment and America's inability to further maintain an ultra-high standard of living for account of the whole world, they will massively start to drive cartridges into the chamber and then ...
    Further on.
    Pi. Si. Maybe it's not bad that they are there overseas .. IMHO
    1. +2
      April 5 2012 14: 33
      Quote: B_KypTke
      Pi. Si. Maybe it's not bad that they are there overseas .. IMHO

      yes, from the oceans a good protigangster moat will turn out. I support
  6. +10
    April 5 2012 09: 03
    All is no longer the American dream, everything has come out, ended. The crisis did not end, it is only gaining momentum and will be times stronger than 2008. The collapse of the entire US financial system is inevitable! Hundreds and hundreds of bankrupt banks across the country will lead to a settlement of the system of mutual settlements, and all have credit cards, people go to the store, but they are not accepted. The people in the bank, and the bank is closed wow! The result is that the Americans have millions of gun barrels in their hands, and people want to eat ..... what’s next is not hard to imagine. Merry Christmas to the Americans, I wish you that at least you had food on the festive table.
  7. +7
    April 5 2012 09: 18
    Amer will not make a revolution - they have a different genotype. They are the descendants of people who fled from their countries for a long dollar and did not want to change anything in their homeland. I think in the event of a collapse, they will massively break somewhere else. Afroamers - this is another topic, these are just rap dancing and robbing much, but on the allowance to live from generation to generation. Pogroms will suit, but in no case a revolution.
    1. +3
      April 5 2012 14: 37
      well, there they can rob white. the shit begins - especially nowhere to run - on both sides of the ocean, in the south of Mexico, in the north - Canada. It makes no sense to flee to Canada - it’s cold and the population is small, and in the south of the gringo hot Mesxican guys can caress. have to cook in your own boiler.
      and from such cooking in the whole world indigestion can begin
  8. Ruslan
    +7
    April 5 2012 09: 30
    Every year, America spends billions of dollars on parasites in Israel, and throws its citizens - this is the result when Jews run the country’s financial sphere - we have the same situation judging by the nationality of the oligarchs
    1. iulai
      +9
      April 5 2012 09: 58
      Ruslan, 0.5% of Jews in Russia, and probably over 50% in the Duma and the government
  9. Dmitry.V
    +4
    April 5 2012 09: 30
    It's time to introduce "humanitarian aid" to them
  10. Atlon
    +13
    April 5 2012 09: 35
    No wonder ... America is a testing ground for a secret world government. The Bilderberg Club and the Committee of 300, in general, is preparing something similar for all of us (the whole world) ... Especially, of course, the style of American education is shocking. Such "education" makes people of people cattle and wordless sheep. And these are exactly what the world government needs.
    1. +7
      April 5 2012 10: 18
      Yes, I agree! This is not visible with an armed look! Avot other countries stupidly sold to the West! Oh, there was only one mother Russia! Unite the Slavs brothers need! We are the only ones who can resist this!
    2. Tyumen
      +1
      April 5 2012 17: 09
      Despite the fact that the majority of loans are repaid, having already retired.
    3. +1
      April 5 2012 19: 21
      Athlon and Fursenko have the same rubbish. When those who studied under the Soviets leave, everything may collapse if the situation is not corrected in the next 5 years.
  11. iulai
    +6
    April 5 2012 09: 55
    and in Russia there is no unemployment. only loafers cannot find work. there is a beautiful Russian proverb --- where I was born, it came in handy!
    1. +2
      April 5 2012 13: 27
      Quote: iulai
      only loafers cannot find work

      Perhaps I will support ... I remembered an episode about a homeless Tolya, from the novel by A. Kivinov "Carried by the Wind":
      In the department, Tolya ran into Kivinov, who, after listening to the homeless, offered him a more suitable option - to help with the settlement in the hostel and to get a job. Tolya reacted to the proposal with a violent refusal, saying that he was not going to bend his back on the Soviet government. Kivinov immediately realized that Tolya was just a bummer by nature. As it later turned out, he was still a lazy person who loves to drink.
      lol
  12. gordeew_alr
    +14
    April 5 2012 10: 07
    For the umpteenth time, the idea appears that it was not the USSR that lost the economic battle to America, but a bargain happened to sell it and break it up from the inside so that it would not win. Here, too, this idea occurs of the destruction by the States of others, so as not to be worse than them. Moreover, the dollar mass prevails, and the examples of Hussein and Gaddafi show how invested money is returned.
    But this suggests the conclusion about our situation and the ways of restoring public life. We just need to resist our values, our way of life. Do not be tempted by the leadership of the CPSU and the USSR on this deal, but take measures to equip public life, and such destruction would not have occurred. After all, the people trust their power, especially ours. Power betrayed the people, and this is its crime. Lesson and current power. And to us as a people. Authorities - what to serve: their money or their people. And to the people - what to uphold, what are the values ​​of life. Madness is happening today, if we talk about us, the people. We all look like bewitched, but how it is in the West. And their laws for us are like the fifth wheel in a cart, and they do not need us, but our territories and resources. There are already enough examples: the Baltic states (almost European) are already turning into a desert. For what, as they say, they fought, they ran into something. Even worse awaits us, as soon as people who want to live in Russian in the Russian state are transferred. And this is not rhetoric. For centuries, our ancestors have built public life in relation to the geopolitical position of our country. And they were very reasonable. They left us a legacy that we do not value. We measure all this heritage with minerals and territories, and in deliberate blindness we do not notice its spiritual and moral value and the accuracy of the social arrangement of society. They believed some kind of dope because of the mound blaspheming our Russian life. And this sloppiness slanders with envy that everything is bad with him, but he cannot do as ours. As far back as the beginning of the 20th century, foreigners gnashed their teeth from Russian labor legislation. We do not need to enjoy the achievements of Peter and his ilk of revolutionaries and revolutionaries, but carefully enter into the experience of national life and engage in the creation of social life on every patch of our homeland, and not just judge and judge how to live in the offices and homes of fathers-leaders of the state .
  13. Arc76
    -12
    April 5 2012 10: 21
    That they just don’t write here and there will be no Christmas food in the USA, and the secret government, and even I have never been abroad, but I know for sure that it’s bad there. He just laughed at the guy from the financial analytics department to read the article. Do you know, my dear, what sovereign rating is in the US economy, and what is ours. And I would like to ask the author how much investment in the US construction sector was attracted last year, and what percentage of people whose banks took a mortgage in relation to bona fide borrowers. And does the author know what mortgage debt restructuring and personal bankruptcy are in the USA, and what needs to be done so that your debt is not restructured. And about Wall Street, it’s funny, Dr. Haider was constantly shown on Soviet television, and now the author has gotten something like this.
    1. +7
      April 5 2012 10: 34
      Analysts are laughing - the population is crying.
    2. +8
      April 5 2012 10: 57
      Ark, how much can all financial indices and ratings really reflect the situation of the economy ?! Especially credit ratings.
      What do you think, what rating will Qatar have, for example, if he quarrels with the United States;)) Even with its GDP and level of well-being.
      1. Arc76
        -1
        April 5 2012 11: 15
        They generally do not hide the economic rationale, they write a report every week. Standard and pur for example. And then I'm not saying that the United States does not have problems with the economy, and they are significant, it is not clear how the FRS will solve the problem with the budget deficit. So they lowered the rating from AAA to AA +, but this is stable with a good forecast. agencies, the United States is unlikely to influence their ratings. Well, let's say you and I would be stock speculators, traded on the MICEX there or in New York, so we would have us ... on the economy and the US government, in Qatar, if it had not reduced its exports, we would have invested in the same profit We need to get it. And what do you think we would use the "sp" ratings if we had the slightest suspicion that the US government influences their forecasts. That's how I see it.
        1. +5
          April 5 2012 11: 46
          You want to say, I would venture to invest in a country about which the United States claimed to be a hotbed of terrorism. I'm afraid it will be a very risky operation. And about a stable forecast, it’s clear from what, the printing press is not worth it.
          Politics greatly affects indexes and ratings. What do you think will happen to the head of a rating agency if he puts a negative outlook on the US !;)
          1. Arc76
            -2
            April 5 2012 15: 51
            So they lowered it, for the first time in the history of the world economy. By the way, someone told me that there is also our rating agency, you need to look most interestingly. And as for the printing press, these are the advantages of the reserve currency, but you don’t take their place I’m saying, let’s make the ruble a reserve currency (I can hardly imagine how) and we will live well. It would be much better than pumping Iran and Syria in vain.
            1. Ruslan
              +4
              April 5 2012 16: 03
              Quote: arc76
              I’m saying, let’s make the ruble a reserve currency (though I can hardly imagine how) and we will live well. It would be much better than wasting Iran and Syria for nothing.
              you contradict yourself - in order to
              Quote: arc76
              let's make the ruble a reserve currency (though I can hardly imagine how)
              it is necessary to remove the American financial system from the world stage - and Jewish bankers will fight and kill for it - because the whole west is built on it,
              Quote: arc76
              That would be far better than wasting Iran and Syria.
              the attack on Iran and its ally Syria is an attempt by the United States to save its financial system from collapse by destabilizing the region in order to create energy hunger for its main competitor - China - and stopping assistance to US opponents - you are helping the US No. 1 enemy for Russia
              1. Arc76
                -3
                April 5 2012 17: 00
                And I do not consider the United States the number one enemy for Russia. And actually I would like to know how do you even imagine the global financial system and how you want to live without this global system. In general, it’s not very interesting for me to speak with an amateur who does not represent the foundations of the modern economic process. What do you want to hear from me, and what to convince me of. That the collapse of the American system will not hit Russia, look at our balance with the United States and the European Union. It will probably be a surprise for you that our main trading partners are not Iran and Ukraine. But you can do anything in your native country, hang up Jewish bankers, get out of dollar, I repeat anything. By the way, I congratulate you on the return of legal capacity. So when you learn anything other than the fight against international Sinism, you are welcome to subscribe, but for now I'm bored of listening to slogans.
                1. Ruslan
                  +1
                  April 5 2012 19: 00
                  Quote: arc76
                  And I do not consider the United States the number one enemy for Russia.
                  Start with this - your worldview is based on this.
                  Quote: arc76
                  And actually I would like to know how do you even imagine the global financial system?
                  Look here, everything is described in detail
                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bzzUQjqjGU

                  Quote: arc76
                  That the collapse of the American system will not hit Russia, look at our balance with the United States and the European Union. It will probably be a surprise for you that our main trading partners are not Iran and Ukraine
                  Your arrogance is a sign of dullness
                  1. Arc76
                    -1
                    April 5 2012 20: 04
                    Well, yes, I'm stupid to me where you are. But I am not interested in alternative economics. Alas, I am realist. I believe in the world's recognized rating agencies and follow their reports. What's new Starikov told me, but nothing, I myself can give the same lecture. But believe the real international economy, it’s much more complicated than Starikov’s lectures. The US dollar is an international financial instrument and no one will forego it in the foreseeable future.
                    1. Ruslan
                      +3
                      April 5 2012 20: 20
                      Quote: arc76
                      Well, yes, I'm stupid to me where you are. But I am not keen on alternative economics. Alas, I am a realist.
                      if you are a realist, you should know that the United States from the air creates money in the quantities in which they want and in return receive real resources, goods and services. You should also understand that such a scheme will not last long and a global collapse of this system will come.
                      Charles Nenner is a talented mathematician who, as a leading analyst at one of the most influential financial companies in the world, Goldman Sachs, predicted the 2008 global crisis, which is why he gained worldwide fame.
                      Charles Nenner has a very serious reputation. He is distinguished by the academic style of presentation and the accuracy of the wording. In the business world, Nenner is considered not only a brilliant financial strategist, but also almost a "market prophet."
                      So, on March 9, 2011, this expert advised all sane citizens to start getting rid of their securities right now, as soon all financial markets in the world will collapse, after which the world war will begin.
                      This unexpected Fox channel announcement triggered the effect of an exploding bomb, numbing a television presenter.
                      In particular, Charles Nenner said that in 2012 there should be a record collapse of the Dow Jones Index. The fall itself will begin in the middle of next year, and will last several months. After that, all the financial assets of the world (stocks, bonds, futures, etc.) will collapse. This process will last for 2-3 years.
                      In addition, a deep and protracted financial crisis will provoke a global armed conflict.
                      According to Charles Nenner, this is due to the fact that in order to overcome the financial crisis, the West will start a large-scale war in order to stimulate the work of its economic system by building up its military-industrial complex.
                      That is, Nenner believes that in the face of an internal financial and economic disaster, Western governments will begin in 2012 investing in a major war outside the West. On the one hand, they will thus try to shift the attention of the population of Europe and the USA from social, financial and economic problems to a mythical external enemy, and on the other, stimulate their own economy through military production.
                      Nenner in his analytical center uses mathematical models and the latest methods of socio-economic forecasting, taking into account global trends in global politics, which is why his analyzes and forecasts are of great interest and are taken into account by the leading players in world business.
                      It is unlikely that the financier and investor at the Nenner level will risk his reputation for the sake of “fried sensation” and momentary popularity. In order to make a public statement of this nature, he had to have very substantial arguments.
                      Interestingly, Charles Nenner is a representative of the American neoconservative and influential Jewish lobby. Therefore, he is not just a talented analyst, but also a carrier of neoconservative values ​​and ideology. In other words, Nenner can not only predict events, but also voice already existing plans.
                      In fact, the rule of the American Democrats, led by Barack Obama, was the most disastrous for all the years of the existence of the US Democratic Party. The deep financial crisis and economic stagnation are now directly associated in the mass consciousness of Americans with the Democrats. That is why the chances of re-election of Obama as president are extremely meager. The US Republican Party neocons are looking forward to their revenge in 2012 right now.
                      1. Arc76
                        -3
                        April 5 2012 20: 33
                        So my dear Charles Never was recently flooded from Golden Sachs, by the way, precisely because of his connection with Murdoch. You can go sell dollars and buy stew in anticipation of what Nevers predicted
                      2. Ruslan
                        +5
                        April 5 2012 20: 40
                        Quote: arc76
                        So my dear Charles Never was recently flooded from Golden Sachs, by the way, precisely because of his connection with Murdoch. You can go sell dollars and buy stew in anticipation of what Nevers predicted
                        The stupid answer - this man has never been scattered with words and until now his predictions have been forgotten - And Soros's statements "The deaf current does not hear the drums of war", and Bzezhinsky's statements "The current global military conflict will help the United States finally establish itself as a world superpower" - these players for you clowns?
                      3. Arc76
                        -4
                        April 5 2012 20: 49
                        Soros and Brzezinski in financial circles, the first is known as a speculator playing on a negative news background, and the second is just an old man who has just lost his mind. Dear, use at least RBC or look at the reports of the three largest rating agencies, not marginals, if for example I built my financial policy on them, I would have long gone into minus.
                      4. Ruslan
                        +4
                        April 5 2012 20: 52
                        Quote: arc76
                        Soros and Brzezinski in financial circles, the first is known as a speculator playing on a negative news background, and the second is just an old man who has just lost his mind.
                        You will not hang these labels on Kisenger - he is in big politics more than you live
                      5. Arc76
                        -3
                        April 5 2012 20: 58
                        Kissanger is even better, how many years are how many winters, the Iran-Contras scandal. My dear AA +, AA +, stable with good lognoz. You understand that you are filling up the yen with links to an amateur, alternative economy. In professional circles, no one uses such sources. There are three most authoritative rating agencies in the world, and about a dozen small ones, they determine the direction and these are professional tools, and you give me some crap, I’m even tired of typing, I don’t want to give you links to the Communist Party’s website there in general the United States ten times already buried.
                      6. Ruslan
                        +3
                        April 5 2012 21: 10
                        Quote: arc76
                        Kissanger is even better, how many years are how many winters, the Iran-Contras scandal. My dear AA +, AA +, stable with good lognoz.
                        You see, this is not an answer, but a simple exit to the side.
                        Quote: arc76
                        There are three most authoritative rating agencies in the world, and about a dozen small ones, they determine the direction and these are professional tools,
                        May I remind you how these agencies gave financial forecasts and put ratings for Greece and Ireland, you yourself know about the venality of these rating agencies - which they say at the end of the game - THIS WAS OUR PRINCIPLE
                        http://www.cluber.com.ua/kino/2011/12/film-vnutrennee-delo/
                      7. Arc76
                        -2
                        April 5 2012 21: 19
                        Again, the film, you understand that you give me, the professional in your field, links to propaganda sites, lectures by amateurs, and interviews with marginals. That's how you think at least the Russian Finance Ministry is building its financial policy on them. I’m just tired of telling you, you’re just an amateur and want to use alternative sources of information for me. You understand that neither Brzezinski nor Kissenger are used anywhere in financial planning. It's just ridiculous.
                      8. Ruslan
                        +3
                        April 5 2012 21: 23
                        Quote: arc76
                        Again, the film, you understand that you give me, the professional in your field, links to propaganda sites, lectures by amateurs, and interviews with marginals. That's how you think at least the Russian Finance Ministry is building its financial policy on them. I’m just tired of telling you, you’re just an amateur and want to use alternative sources of information for me. You understand that neither Brzezinski nor Kissenger are used anywhere in financial planning. It's just ridiculous.
                        All these people are marginalized and you are professional = - well then everything is clear with you - you didn’t give a constructive answer, you just twisted what was said (mysteriously hinting that you are a professional and know more) and poured mud on people who are hundreds of times more YOU. Christine Lagarde giving an interview in this movie for you amateur?
                      9. Arc76
                        -3
                        April 5 2012 21: 31
                        Well, it’s hard for me to read you the initial course of political economy even in one semester, well, at least due to the fact that there are too many terms. You understand all the links that you brought to me, no one will discuss well, for example, on a credit council at a bank or on an investment forum. But here is the report of the Standard and Puur and let's say the quarterly report on the LSR group’s customers is discussed there. Sit on RBC, you will understand a lot really. Regarding Kristin Lagarde, Stros Kahn simply considers not competent.
                      10. Arc76
                        -4
                        April 5 2012 21: 53
                        Listen, I don’t know who you are in your specialty, but I can’t take seriously the person who claims to be the sales person of the top ten rating agencies. It’s necessary that the Russian Ministry of Finance takes into account, they print in RBC, they study in Finake, and a person who has seen a cinema in the alternative economy rejects it. Yes, it is strange.
                2. Ruslan
                  +2
                  April 5 2012 19: 25
                  Quote: arc76
                  And actually I would like to know how do you even imagine the global financial system
                  Watch this movie - so that the Jewish liberals could not hang noodles on your ears
                  http://video.yandex.ua/users/granica-ru/view/16/#
                  1. Arc76
                    -3
                    April 5 2012 20: 20
                    Well, the dollar will collapse soon, the US economy will collapse and Ukraine will become the leading economy in the world. On YouTube and in the magazine, an expert has been talking about this for about seven years. Already, many speakers have gone to a different world, and American funds are still in the first place on investment ratings of the USA. Don’t give me links to semi-economists like Starikov and Leontyev (expert magazine). Give me links to real players like independent rating agencies and financial analysts. I'm not used to talking adjectives on these topics.
                    1. Ruslan
                      +2
                      April 5 2012 20: 29
                      Quote: arc76
                      Give me links to real players like independent rating agencies and financial analysts
                      Read above Charles Nenner - is a financial guru - and everyone listens to his opinion. You can find his full interview on the Internet.

                      Quote: arc76
                      Well, the dollar will collapse soon, the US economy will collapse and Ukraine will become the leading economy in the world.
                      You see, you are confusing a serious problem with fictitious sarcasm - this is a sign of arrogance which in life always ends very deplorably.
                      1. Arc76
                        -2
                        April 5 2012 20: 42
                        I wrote to you about Chals Nevera above, but I like to joke. And I have fun talking to you, here I work at the bank, we have financial analysts in general. The candidate works (by the way, Nenera called him the last refuge whose attempt is to make money in a falling market) , and now the financial system will soon collapse according to your prediction, well, I will share your opinion with it.
                      2. Ruslan
                        +2
                        April 5 2012 20: 45
                        Quote: arc76
                        and now the financial system will soon collapse according to your prediction, well, I will share your opinion with it.
                        It will collapse soon or a little later, but you yourself will know about it. Here is another statement not a clown but a current guru in politics.
                        Former US Secretary of State, US National Security Advisor, international relations expert, Nobel Peace Prize laureate Mr. Kissinger has always been a prominent figure in the political Olympus. Not so long ago, despite his venerable age (in May this year he turns 89 years old), he headed the list of 100 leading intellectuals in the world. And recently, he shared with his reporter the American The Daily Squib his vision of the situation in the world and, in particular, in the Middle East.
                        The conversation was so frank that political aides interrupted her and asked the journalist to leave the premises.
                        We give a translation of some of the statements of G. Kissinger:
                        “The United States is weakening China and Russia, and the last nail in the lid of the coffin will be Iran, which, of course, is Israel’s main goal. Until now, we have allowed China to build up military power, and Russia to recover from "Sovietization." All this in order to give them a false sense of bravado, this will destroy them faster. We are like a well-aimed shooter, which encourages the weakling to take the barrel. And as soon as he reaches for the weapon - bang-bang. The impending war will be so tough that only a superpower can win. And this is us, guys. That is why the EU is in such a hurry to form a superstate - they know what is coming, and in order to survive, Europe needs to become united and united. The urgency with which they all do this tells me that they are well aware of the impending confrontation.
                        Oh, how I dreamed of this sweet moment! ”
                        “Control the oil - and you will control the countries; control the food - and you will control the people. "

                        “If you are an ordinary person, you can prepare for war like this: move somewhere to the countryside, start a farm. True, it is necessary to take a weapon with you, because there will be crowds of hungry people.
                        And further. Despite the fact that the elite will be in their safe paradise and special shelters, they also do not interfere with being careful - their shelters can also be damaged. ”

                        “We told our military that we need to conquer seven countries in the Middle East to get their resources. The work is almost done.
                        Everyone knows what I think about the military, but I have to admit, they were too diligently following orders. The last step remains, namely Iran, which will completely change the balance. How many more Russia and China will stand aside and watch how America cleans up everything? We will stir up the formidable Russian bear, and the Chinese sickle and hammer, and then Israel will have to step in. He will have to fight with all his might to destroy as many Arabs as possible. If all goes well, half of the Middle East will become Israeli.
                        Over the past decade, we have well trained our youth in computer games. It was interesting to see the new Call of Duty Modern Fare 3 game (Call of Duty: Modern War 3). It fully reflects what will happen in the near future - this is predictive programming. Our youth - both in the USA and in the West as a whole - is ready, because they are programmed to be good soldiers, cannon fodder. And when they are ordered to go out and fight these crazy Chinese and Russians, they will obey the order.
                        From the ashes we will build a new society, only one superpower will remain, the world government will win. Do not forget that the United States has the best weapons, we have such things that others do not have a trace. And we will show it all when the time comes. ”
                      3. Arc76
                        -3
                        April 5 2012 21: 13
                        Yes, yes, that's Call of duty, I just lacked it as an argument. Write complete nonsense. It's called "I love alternative history"
                      4. Ruslan
                        +4
                        April 5 2012 21: 16
                        Quote: arc76
                        Yes, yes, that's Call of duty, I just lacked it as an argument. Write complete nonsense. It's called "I love alternative history"
                        Do not quibble over twisting what was said - this person in his whole life did not scatter words in vain; he voices the plans of people who are creating a story and not finely speculating on exchanges
                      5. Arc76
                        -4
                        April 5 2012 21: 22
                        So you can’t even speculate finely, because your vision of the economy is based on sources that no one seriously considers in professional circles. It’s the same as building Russia's foreign policy on the basis of the statements of Vladimir Volfovich ..
                      6. Ruslan
                        +2
                        April 5 2012 23: 40
                        Quote: arc76
                        So you can’t even speculate finely, because your vision of the economy
                        This is not my vision of the economy - this is the vision of the people who are standing. Instead of twisting what you read, give the links - the opposite of what was said.
                      7. Arc76
                        -4
                        April 6 2012 00: 07
                        Good. Dial .standardandpoors.com View the latest reports on the US sovereign investment rating. Yes, and there is also a lot of reporting, but it will be serious ..
                      8. Ruslan
                        +4
                        April 6 2012 00: 36
                        Quote: arc76
                        Good. Dial .standardandpoors.com View the latest reports on the US sovereign investment rating. Yes, and there is also a lot of reporting, but it will be serious ..
                        Understand the question is not when the fin collapses. the US system (and so it is clear that it will not last long with such a long one) and its attitude towards Russia - after all, there is no flow of capital from Russia and other countries — they print money and the rest earn it. He give candy wrappers they give real goods. This system, like a cancerous tumor, draws all resources - it drives you into debt and kills - and YOU know very well about it. And because the US is enemy No. 1 - and they will do everything to continue in the same spirit
                        http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=762176
                        And there is the only Russian base in this region
                      9. Arc76
                        -3
                        April 6 2012 00: 46
                        Well, it’s not long to wait for the result, according to Nenera’s forecasts, in three months the market will collapse seriously, so let’s talk. In the meantime, this is a futile argument, I can’t convince you, and even more so for you. Thank you for the conversation .. After three months we’ll see who was right. And you read something serious, well, Rosbankscanning or DP. And trust Leontiev less. See you soon.
                      10. Arc76
                        -2
                        April 5 2012 22: 57
                        Yes, here's another, like all your links, this turned out to be an alternative to put it mildly, this is a translation from the British site dailisquib. Also there you can find an article "Paris Hilton converted to Islam" or "take a pill and debts will disappear." Everything else also matches this, just digging too lazy. Well, what else can you expect from a person who seriously believes that the US economy will collapse in the near future. Caste has a good song "my grandmother reads the newspaper life". And what link will you give me next time. That Bigfoot was found in Antarctica, and I have to refute again?
                      11. Ruslan
                        +2
                        April 5 2012 23: 36
                        Quote: arc76
                        Yes, here's another, like all your links, this turned out to be an alternative to put it mildly, this is a translation from the British site dailisquib. Also there you can find an article "Paris Hilton converted to Islam" or "take a pill and debts will disappear." Everything else also matches this,
                        The stupid answer if you take into account the judicial system of the West - for lodges there they sue for big money, the more these are the statements of ordinary people
                      12. Arc76
                        -2
                        April 5 2012 23: 54
                        And so is Kissanger’s interview from there, sage. Paris Hilton converted to Islam — that’s just for you. It’s ridiculous.
                      13. Ruslan
                        +2
                        April 6 2012 00: 07
                        Quote: arc76
                        And so is Kissanger’s interview from there, sage. Paris Hilton converted to Islam — that’s just for you. Funny
                        If the newspaper invented everything - and the statements were addressed to a specific and very serious person - what would they do with it? And the article is also published in other news publications - where is the official refutation or the statement that this is a lie?
                      14. Arc76
                        -2
                        April 6 2012 00: 12
                        And there a refutation appeared the next day. This is the yellow press that you love so much ..
                      15. Arc76
                        -3
                        April 6 2012 00: 30
                        I even found the link http: \\ www.dailysquib.co.uk \ world \ 3089-henry-kissinger-if-you-can / if you could imagine what nonsense from a professional point of view you are talking about the imminent collapse of the US economy. I just got tired of climbing no in search of stupid things.
                      16. Ruslan
                        +2
                        April 6 2012 00: 43
                        Quote: arc76
                        already found a link
                        Doesn’t open the lad, let's sleep until tomorrow
        2. Atlon
          +8
          April 5 2012 13: 46
          As a person who at one time traded a lot on the stock exchange, I can say: You see exactly the way it was hammered into your brains to see it. For all you know, only "a few" players earn on the exchange. Major players. But in order to earn, they need to take this money from someone. For this there are "rams". You've probably heard of "bulls" and "bears"? Bulls are bullish and bears bearish. There are not many real players who do not lose. This is the same notorious Committee of 300. All the other millions of medium and small, as well as private players are "rams". They are meant to be "trimmed". And all analytical articles and ratings are just for sheep. PLAYERS know when the market will go up, when it will go down (they move it themselves!), So the "bulls" and then the "bears" earn in turn. analysts are needed in order to "move" the market. After all, in the end, the market is driven by "rams", extras, the general mass of players who bring their money to the exchange.
          "Exchange trading will exist as long as the bulk of the people who play on the exchange listen to our analysts, buy when it rises when it is necessary to sell, and sell when it is low when it is necessary to buy!" (D. Soros)
          1. Arc76
            0
            April 5 2012 16: 16
            There are no players who do not lose at all. But at a seminar last week (I went), Mr. Shelgunov (there is such a exchange guru here), asserted that his investments bring 25% stable annually, called for active shorts and play not only in a growing, but also in a declining market. By the way, I can predict some events, with my education modest by economic standards. For example, see now Walmart announced the absorption of the carousel. The arrival of such a powerful player on the Russian market will give rise unambiguously. Or, for example, additional issues, but they must be caught. corporate stories will give good returns if you know something. But this year I’m in the black, although of course I’m far from Soros. In general, the topic is interesting, you can write and write. And most importantly, I really know a sufficient number of people who live this, and pretty good. So what about the fact that only large players profit in vain.
            1. Ruslan
              +3
              April 5 2012 19: 32
              Quote: arc76
              There are no players who do not lose at all. But at a seminar last week (I went), Mr. Shelgunov (there is such a exchange guru here), asserted that his investments bring 25% stable annually, called for active shorts and play not only in a growing, but also in a declining market. By the way, I can predict some events, with my education modest by economic standards. For example, see now Walmart announced the absorption of the carousel.

              There are many beautiful words, but the essence is simple - there is nothing to do (not to develop any real product), live on a percentage using financial fraud. This is the main reason for your support of the financial system that has developed in the world and unfortunately in Russia.
              1. Arc76
                -1
                April 5 2012 19: 58
                Well, well, I am the main evil of the world by defeating which you will live a happy life.
                1. Ruslan
                  +2
                  April 5 2012 20: 33
                  Quote: arc76
                  Well, I’m the main evil of the world by defeating which you will live a happy life
                  No, you are just a screw of this system
            2. Atlon
              +1
              April 5 2012 23: 18
              Not certainly in that way. It is not only the "big" players that are profitable. "Big" profit players ALWAYS. Of course, someone lives from this, I agree. I myself have lived this for a little less than three years (with varying degrees of success). I'm talking about something else. "Big" players make money ALWAYS because THEY move the market. Soros, in order to move the trend, it is enough just to express some "considerations". There are also professionals who play and make a living from it. But they are few in comparison with the rest of the "rams" who are sheared. And this does not mean that the "rams" ALWAYS lose. I would rate their chances as 50/50. In other words, as a rule, "rams" lose as much as they win. Otherwise, they would have been doing it professionally, and not just investing "extra" money.
          2. +4
            April 5 2012 16: 18
            I think you haven't discovered America, and in addition to your post I will try to explain how "the players move it." For example, let's take two countries: Liberia and Cote d "Ivoire - one of the largest suppliers of cocoa to the world market. But at the same time, these countries do not live in prosperity, there is CONSTANTLY there is an armed confrontation of varying degrees of intensity, and none of the local people can really explain why they are fighting (the village is at war with the city, the tribes with each other, Islamists against non-Islamists, etc., a total mess). Only one thing is stable - - a change in prices on the London Stock Exchange (meaning the cocoa-related sector of the economy) always precedes the next uprising (any turmoil in these countries affects this segment of the world market). You yourself can easily trace this relationship. But now the world has changed, with one sides - in addition to Europe and the United States, many countries have appeared annually increasing imports of cocoa (including Russia and China), and the producing countries have an alternative and with it the possibility the need to change the rules of the game (no "king" is reluctant to be a bargaining chip), on the other hand, the crisis in the United States led to the fact that the "sheep" in the United States and Europe became poorer, everyday problems came to the fore, and most importantly - they have ceased to trust the system that has been worked out over the years and all sorts of "experts", and are no longer eager to invest in "papers." to make money out of thin air "and this, in turn, aggravates their problems and makes them look for new territories, this is why he is dangerous." The lower classes do not want, the upper classes cannot ... "- a classic! good
    3. Darn
      +2
      April 5 2012 12: 54
      If you know so much then share, write an article.
      1. Arc76
        +2
        April 5 2012 15: 54
        And by the way, I wrote an article, just about the report published recently by the same Standartan Poor on the Russian economy, but they did not miss it, apparently they consider it unpatriotic. True, I repent of mine there almost there, compiled from RBC, but Business Petersburg with Kommersant.
    4. Atlon
      +4
      April 5 2012 13: 36
      The main rule of a self-respecting trader (player on the stock exchange): "Listen to analysts and do the opposite!" wink
      1. Arc76
        +4
        April 5 2012 16: 04
        Ok, let's look at a specific example. About two weeks ago, everyone was waiting for the publication of the LSR group reports and many predicted that it would be good, well, for example, there’s an income of ru, there is such an analytical site. And so it happened, naturally people got up in March, they jumped 30 rubles. But analysts, too, are naturally mistaken.
  14. DYMITRY
    +8
    April 5 2012 10: 59
    I don’t know. Maybe I’m too cynical, but personally, after the 90s, I don’t feel sorry for them at all! Let row in full measure what was prepared for us. Of course, I won’t get settled on the TV with popcorn, but not a pity.
  15. +4
    April 5 2012 11: 23
    Well, let’s say we have homeless people ... and for some reason I don’t feel sorry for them at all ... And of the nine families of my acquaintances, not one of them began to live worse ... while America lives off with cut paper, they will live better than us ... minus ...
  16. +3
    April 5 2012 11: 29
    First time Brzeziku (+) wink True, I read about the level of teaching in history and geography in the province back in 1978 in the book "The Country Beyond the Ocean" by our international journalist, who worked there for many years.
    And I agree with Esaul - "It's good where we are not" - tested in practice winked
    1. Atlon
      +5
      April 5 2012 13: 49
      In the 61st year, one of the Americans said: "The Russians overtook us in space because they previously overtook us in school, in physics and mathematics lessons." wink
      1. 0
        April 5 2012 21: 26
        Information from several sources increases% of truth good +
  17. +7
    April 5 2012 11: 52
    "Firstly (and immediately secondly), enterprises with extremely cheap labor will be created within the framework of the newly-made American Gulag."
    The author is not in the course, the Gulag has long been created.
    Human rights organizations, both political and social, are struggling against what they call the “new form of inhuman exploitation in the United States”; they claim that nearly 2 million prisoners, mostly black and Hispanic, work in various industries for meager remuneration. For industrial tycoons, it's a bonanza. There is no need to be nervous because of strikes, because of the payment of unemployment insurance, holidays and time off. All their employees are busy full time, they are never late, they never skip due to “family circumstances”; moreover, if they do not like paying 25 cents per hour and they refuse to work, they are locked in solitary confinement.
    Federal and private prisons hold about 2 million people. According to California Prizon Focus, “there has not yet been a society in the history of mankind that would have kept so many of its members in prison. The figures say that there are more prisoners in the United States in prisons than in any other country - half a million more than in China, although the population of this country is five times more than in the United States. Statistics clearly say that in the United States there are 25% of prisoners around the world, and their population is 5%. Back in 1972, there were less than 300 prisoners in the United States, in 000 - already 1990 million. Ten years ago, there were only five private prisons in the whole country, which contained 1 thousand prisoners, now there are 2 such prisons, and 100 62 prisoners. It is estimated that in the next decade this number will be 000 ​​360.
    What has happened over the past ten years? Where did so many prisoners come from?
    “Private hiring of prisoners provokes the desire to put people in jail. Prisons depend on income. Corporate shareholders who make money from prison labor lobby for longer sentences to provide themselves with labor. The system feeds itself, ”says a study by the Progressive Labor Party, which considers the prison system“ imitation of Nazi Germany in terms of forced slave labor and concentration camps. ”
    The prison industry is one of the fastest growing industries, and its investors are on Wall Street. “This multi-million dollar industry has its own trade shows, conventions, websites, and online catalogs. She runs direct advertising campaigns, owns design and construction companies, Wall Street investment funds, building maintenance and food supply companies, and has armed guards and felt-lined cells. ”
    According to Left Business Observer, the US prison industry produces 100% of all military helmets, uniform belts and belts, body armor, ID cards, shirts, trousers, tents, backpacks and flasks. In addition to military equipment and uniforms, the prison produces 98% of the market for mounting tools, 46% of bulletproof vests, 36% of household appliances, 30% of headphones, microphone, megaphones and 21% of office furniture, as well as aviation and medical equipment and much more - prisoners are engaged in even training guide dogs for the blind.
    Crime is falling, the prison population is growing.
    Thanks to prison labor, the United States has again become an attractive place to invest in labor, which used to be the lot of Third World countries. In Mexico, an assembly plant near the border closed and transferred its operations to St. Quentin Prison (California). In Texas, 150 workers were laid off from the plant and signed a contract with Lockhart Private Prison, where electrical circuits are now being assembled for companies such as IBM and Compaq.
    A member of the Oregon House of Representatives recently asked Nike to hurry up with the transfer of production from Indonesia to Oregon, saying that “here the manufacturer will not have transportation problems, here we will provide competitive prison labor.”
  18. 4DS
    4DS
    +9
    April 5 2012 12: 01
    Where can it flare up in the USA:
    1. The percentage of blacks per unit area


    2. The percentage of latinos per unit area


    USA 2010 Total population -(308) 745 538

    White - 223 553 265
    Black or African American - 38 929 319
    Native American Indians and Alaska - 2
    Asians - 14
    Residents of the islands (Hawaii, etc.) - 540 013
    Som Lakes Rays, ой - some other races (?) - 19 107 368
    Two or more races (?) - 9 009 073
    1. +2
      April 5 2012 14: 30
      Well, as long as niggas will cut latinos (or vice versa) they will have time to find a way out of the current situation lol
      At the same time, the specific demographic pressure per unit area will decrease. bully
      And what a savings will be on unemployment benefits! feel
  19. andrklimanov
    +4
    April 5 2012 12: 44
    in one word "the most prosperous" country bully
    here is the most striking example of crap
  20. vostok
    +5
    April 5 2012 12: 55
    Ha ha ha America kerdyk.
    1. +5
      April 5 2012 13: 38
      I wanted to write the same thing:
      "Soon all your America kirdyk" (c) "Brother" drinks
  21. maksman
    +27
    April 5 2012 13: 24
    Yeah !!!!!!!!!!! Who is the Union there? I had an incomplete, what is called a "dysfunctional" family - my mother alone dragged me and my brother for 150 rubles / month, but we never went hungry, and we could not even imagine that someone could throw us out on the street, or leave us out of employment. I spent the whole summer in pioneer camps, fully supported by the state (vouchers cost a penny), and received a Soviet education, which is very glad, looking at the current level of knowledge of schoolchildren and students.



    1. BMW
      BMW
      +12
      April 5 2012 14: 42
      It is a pity that all the Soviet trample.
      How much good could be adopted from the Soviet past.
      They crush us by any means - especially informationally and psychologically.
      We strengthen our psyche and do not watch the zombie creature, we chase children from it. In circles and sections - not minutes of free time - then they will grow up as full-fledged people. One more thing - to give children access to Soviet history - let them learn to think.
      1. Isr
        Isr
        0
        April 6 2012 13: 45
        "access to Soviet history" is good, but in order to learn to think, one must give access to any other history. otherwise it will be a brainwave, as in the USSR.
    2. +12
      April 5 2012 15: 40
      Maxman plus unconditionally. I had a similar child. They also did sports for free.
      1. maksman
        +7
        April 5 2012 15: 52
        Yes, there was a lot of good things - you can list forever ... From friends who remained friends for life no matter what, to sports that were free for everyone. Of course, the naive ones were a little in something, but the character in the yard was tempered by iron! And from the back, even from the enemy they didn’t receive a blow - it wasn’t accepted in those days it was - to beat from the sly!
    3. Isr
      Isr
      -4
      April 6 2012 13: 43
      longing for pioneer Pavlik Morozov? Thanks to Comrade Stalin for our happy childhood. iron fist drive humanity into happiness
      1. maksman
        -1
        April 6 2012 16: 09
        Quote: Isr

        longing for pioneer Pavlik Morozov? Thanks to Comrade Stalin for our happy childhood. iron fist drive humanity into happiness


        No - longing for a normal life. In alliance, the Breiviks did not run with machine guns and people were not shot, and houses were blown up just to build new ones. And the informers were punished harshly, Pavlik Morozovs now walk and drive along European and American streets - and as soon as they call the police. Now we rejoice like children when the national team in any sport will take a prize - before they scolded the whole world if they didn’t take the first place ... And with an iron fist in its happiness, now the most democratic state drives whole countries and peoples at gunpoint and the sights of "smart" bombs. .. Led by the great leader of all Democrats "The Great Obama" ...
    4. Den_tw
      +1
      April 6 2012 15: 00
      Maxman, thanks for the school photo - you will admire!
      And I remember how I wanted to be a pioneer in the top five, but I didn’t pass on academic progress - I was very upset. But when they tied a tie - he walked with his soul to plow so that everyone could see.
      1. maksman
        0
        April 6 2012 16: 16
        Yes ... I think everyone (over 30) can recognize themselves in this photo ...
  22. 0
    April 5 2012 13: 32
    "Soon all your America kirdyk" (c) Brother
  23. Bat1stuta
    +3
    April 5 2012 13: 59
    there you have the American dream ... but I feel sorry for people, especially families with children ... sad
  24. +4
    April 5 2012 14: 27
    It's sad. I have always liked the Americans for their entrepreneurial spirit and hard work. It is a pity that such a nation is degenerating. The Americans lost their "American Dream" at the height of their power. However, in their time, the Latins also exchanged "the greatness of Rome" for "bread and circuses", the result was not slow to appear.
    1. +2
      April 5 2012 21: 13
      So, after all, the USA is built in the image of the Risk Republic smoothly passing into the empire. And they roll the same way. am
  25. Sergl
    +2
    April 5 2012 14: 43
    Comrades!
    As much as many would not like, but let's not forget that if the United States ceases to be a sovereign state or changes its form of government and foreign policy vectors, the whole ball will shake so that it doesn’t seem like much!
    We then definitely expect a number of border conflicts of varying degrees of intensity, comparable in level to the first Chechen one.
    1. +1
      April 5 2012 16: 45
      SerGL, The world is constantly changing. The bearer of this can be different, but from this the social evolution of the non-stop and the periods of peace will always be an interruption by war. For me, let all the worst happen now, and let the children live 50 years in the world and peace of mind.
  26. Stasi.
    +7
    April 5 2012 16: 39
    FBI Agent Robert Hansen, our intelligence officer, described America as a strong, aggressive, mentally retarded child. And unfortunately he was right. We will not determine the timing of the fall of America, the main thing is that this will inevitably happen. And then the whole West will have to drink its bitter cup to the bottom as we had after the collapse of the USSR.
  27. Nechai
    +6
    April 5 2012 16: 56
    Quote: Jaromir
    And the trolls are exhausted !!! And the farther, the more obvious!

    Not everything with the breathing system. Most likely delayed salary from zachaschik. Critical days came ....
    Quote: tronin.maxim
    that abroad she is so wrapper wracky, and the filling is not yet known what.

    One of the Czech dissident veterans already in the 90s said - everything that the communists said about capitalism turned out to be the pure truth. The man believed this, only feeling in his own skin.
    Quote: Atlon
    In the 61st year, one of the Americans said: "The Russians overtook us in space because they used to overtake us in school, in physics and mathematics lessons."

    Paul. John Fitzgerald "Jack" Kennedy said that. Delivering his Apollo speech on September 12, 1961. I will clarify a little - "in the classroom in physics and mathematics classrooms." For us, everything is one, this way, that way. And for the Americans it was a revelation. The subject-disciplinary system of education was absent in municipal schools. There was, and apparently even now, a conceptual system. "Today we pass the cow" How it looks, eats, and so on.
  28. OilGas2011
    +4
    April 5 2012 18: 21
    As usual, the author originally annealed. Materyal pirkspiktivny, I will add f bookmarks.
    Z.Y. Obamo hellish Soton!
  29. Lustrator
    +4
    April 5 2012 20: 52
    Yes, yes, we are all peaceful and friendly - until the moment when selfish interests collide.
    You are sorry for them, but they are not for you. If anything, they don’t even know (and don’t want to know) that somewhere on the planet there are still people whose interests may not coincide with the American intestinal value orientation.
  30. Stasi.
    +7
    April 5 2012 22: 36
    The state of America and the entire West was excellently described and characterized by the famous American politician Patrick J. Buchanan in his book Death of the West. I highly recommend to all fans of the West and the United States, this is not Kremlin propaganda, this is an analysis of the situation in America through the eyes of a well-known American politician and former presidential candidate. And to put it bluntly, Buchanan describes the situation in America as a disaster. In general, read and rate.
  31. Oleg0705
    0
    April 6 2012 10: 26
    Indians know all about democracy Yes
  32. Isr
    Isr
    -5
    April 6 2012 11: 00
    The article came from the same office as all the articles of the old man. its meaning is - do not go children to Africa for a walk, people who have even a drop of brains in their heads, do not go to America. it's bad there, but we have good here. such idiocy is especially skillful - "The war is supposed to be needed by America to get out of the economic impasse ...". it is interesting to look into the eyes of the one who invented this nonsense, put your hand on his shoulder and ask "how do you live with such twisted brains?"
    1. Oleg0705
      -1
      April 6 2012 11: 33
      Isr don't need us
      1. Oleg0705
        +1
        April 6 2012 11: 38
        America for the Americans.
        1. Gym teacher
          -10
          April 6 2012 11: 57
          Ameikan Indians 1000 years inhabited these rich territories, with a favorable climate and a large number of resources and minerals.
          Nevertheless, these people remained savages with a tribal system. With a culture of low level, not having a written language. All achievements are shards, feathers and a deep folk tradition to scalp. Even the wheels were not invented.

          The Indians profiled their chance to become civilization, although they were given all the opportunities. And do not be offended that the Europeans did not begin to look at how they inefficiently use the gifts of nature, doing only hunting and gathering (even the savages did not have any kind of agriculture) and asked them to leave the earth, going deeper into the continent. The Indians tried to snap back and ran into firearms (there is no need to lament - there was enough cruelty on both sides - the sophisticated tortures that poor Indians invented for prisoners can not be compared with the Gestapo dungeons).

          Let them say thanks that the savages were placed on the reservation (there are no gas stoves, but there are special allowances for Aborigines and the absence of taxation, so not a single Indian will refuse his privileged status)
          1. +1
            April 7 2012 21: 13
            Eco poked you ... ate, so ate ... minus
  33. Isr
    Isr
    -4
    April 6 2012 11: 39
    Oleg0705 it's not me, but this article is fucking your brains. however, only a reasonable person can separate the desired from the real.
    1. Oleg0705
      -1
      April 7 2012 01: 07
      Isr judging by your posts the guise of a rational person did not visit you at all. Try to separate the desired from the real yourself, and you are trying to fuck your brains but ... No.
  34. patriot2
    +2
    April 6 2012 18: 38
    Article +
    For reasonable trolls, I would like to wish that situation in which there were simple toilers of America living in tents, cars and cardboard boxes. You will live a year, then you will think differently and talk about democracy and human rights.
    Given that the article describes the life of ordinary Americans affected by the crisis, then where is it SAMPLE OF DEMOCRACY? No, and the Roman Empire had an end which was known.
    So, the oligarchs have already calculated the future for the states and we are now seeing its rise (the coffins even prepared bastards - they are afraid of epidemics).
  35. +2
    April 8 2012 17: 14
    I felt sorry for the amers for a minute, but then I remembered that no one had ever spared us, even vice versa !!! So flag them all in the ear and drum around the neck! am
  36. Stercoder
    0
    April 12 2012 05: 36
    "Democratic dictator" Obama hehe!
    "great and terrible Pu" tucked into the belt
  37. monkey
    0
    16 July 2014 05: 34
    So everything fell into place. They wondered who they would fight with ... And no one could even think that everything would happen in Ukraine. And Russia will be blamed for everything ... But the truth is already known to many, sewn in a bag, as they say, not to conceal. But what awaits America ... I think nothing good.