Russian youth ready to vote for Putin

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Almost 70% of Russian youth are ready to cast their votes in the presidential election in 2018 for the incumbent head of state, Vladimir Putin, while 75% consider him an ideal president, reports RIA News data from a survey conducted by the Center for Students' Sociology in more than 50 regions of the Russian Federation.



According to the survey, 67% of Russian youth are ready to vote for Putin, 16% are in doubt.

At the same time, “75% of young people answered that Putin corresponds to their ideas about the ideal president of Russia; almost half of the respondents (46%) stated that they trust the current president and is convinced that he is successfully coping with the solution of the problems of the state; a third of respondents (32%) replied that they did not see anyone they could rely on other than the current leader of Russia; more 16% believe that the people's trust in Putin is connected with the hope of a transformation in the country in the future, ”the article says.

According to the survey, as a president of Russia, most young people want to see first of all a “public figure” (42%) or the head of a political party (39%).

In addition, 71% of young people are confident that "the president must agree on something with the current political course, but in something speak and oppose." Total 7% believe that the ideal president "must be in complete opposition to the current political course."

In addition, the wise politician, the real “father of the nation”, should be governed by the country, are convinced 57% of respondents. The role of the country's energetic converter turned out to be less in demand, 23% were in favor of it.

The survey was conducted from September to December in more than in the 50 regions of Russia. In total, more than 4 thousands of young people in the All-Russian sample took part in the survey. The link to the survey was distributed in student communities and groups of universities and colleges in social networks (VKontakte, Instagram, Twitter, Facebook).
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  1. +47
    December 7 2017

    Bayan, it was already.
    1. +28
      December 7 2017
      And honestly, whom to choose besides Our beloved Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin ...
      We are for the president’s Volodya, against America ...

      We believe in you and the victory of a strong Russia ...
      As they say to Caesar Caesarean, and you yours ...
      You know better what to do for our good ...
      To proudly develop the banner of the Russian flag ...
      In fact, who if not you?
      1. +21
        December 7 2017
        Dear, you are repeating yourself!
        Prepare a public opinion? it has already been prepared, up to you!
        Quote: mishaia_23
        And honestly, whom to choose besides Our beloved Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin ...
        We are for the president’s Volodya, against America ...

        We believe in you and the victory of a strong Russia ...
        As they say to Caesar Caesarean, and you yours ...
        You know better what to do for our good ...
        To proudly develop the banner of the Russian flag ...
        In fact, who if not you?
        1. +3
          December 7 2017
          Only 7% believe that the ideal president "should be in complete opposition to the current political course."

          These 7% are the potential electorate of Sobchak among young people.
          1. +20
            December 7 2017
            But on the sports.ru portal, where the audience is mainly up to 30, comments are fiercely added and supported by schoolchildren, to put it mildly, not in support of V.V. ... not everything is so simple. They have it "in trend", in my opinion. History is taught in schools anyhow, otherwise they would have known how the coups of Russia cost. A real, and not ostentatious fight against corruption could correct the situation in these half-empty heads, but it seems to me that theft in Russia is not eradicated ...
            1. +13
              December 7 2017
              Quote: Leeds
              History is taught in schools anyhow, otherwise they would have known how the Russian coups cost.

              And here the Colleague agrees with you, you don’t even need to be referenced anywhere, you just have to listen to Kolenka’s speech from Novy Urengoy. hi
              1. +9
                December 7 2017
                Vlad hi , enough of Russia’s revolutions, ate to the fullest, but still there are enough nerds.
                1. +6
                  December 7 2017
                  Rebels and revolutionaries need to be imprisoned.
                  Particularly concerned I recommend a lifetime trip to Ukraine or Somalia. To choose from.
                  1. Zug
                    0
                    December 8 2017
                    Do not be so bloody ... or damn you put on a stake or you on a loop of a piano string ... No need to promote torture measures to influence those who have brains in their heads ...
                2. +8
                  December 7 2017
                  Quote: Going
                  Vlad, enough of Russia’s revolutions, ate to the fullest, but nerds still missing

                  Victor, it’s high time to end with the revolutions and pogroms of the country, but we are pushing for it, the stump is clear that Kolenka from Urengoy not only learned such nasty things from the textbook.
                  1. AUL
                    +19
                    December 7 2017
                    But why did you get the idea that the choice of anyone but Putin is a revolution, pogroms and other horrors? Distort, my friend! The presidential election is a completely legal act provided for by our constitution, and there is no mention of Putin personally in it! If you choose (for that and the elections) another - what is revolutionary here? So do not be afraid, do not be scared!
            2. +5
              December 7 2017
              Quote: Leeds
              But on the sports.ru portal, where the audience is mainly up to 30, comments are strongly added and supported by shkolota, to put it mildly, not in support of V.V.

              along the way and he was dragged into alternative reality by storytellers from the government ...
              who are always doing well ... and if that people support.
          2. +4
            December 7 2017
            Quote: СРЦ П-15
            These 7% are the potential electorate of Sobchak among young people

            Divide by 10 and yes, that will be the same figure for the horse. Young animals are far from uniform in composition, (social status, social circle, etc.) For example, eight years ago I learned from my daughter that VK exists a group of “I Hate Ksenia Sobchak”. And among the 18-20-year-olds there are even ... monarchists, yeah. Those. people write erroneously the name of Romanov, but still there. Yes Well, these are probably not for the king, but for the king (Games of thrones to help them laughing ) Here Leeds, a post below, refers to the audience "sport-sru", but this is not an indicator, because there is such a contingent ... wassat And "plus" there, again, "their", according to club affiliation. Yes, it’s a sin to hide, he himself once left the fanatic (our “old guard” left the bend at the turn of the century), so I’m aware of this “cuisine”. For St. Petersburg I can say that the basic principles of the movement are Russia, Orthodoxy, St. Petersburg and, of course, Zenit. Agree - not the worst position (even though I myself am an atheist). So, here Leeds is right: everything is not so simple. And I’m ashamed of the horse - I saw such "countrymen" in the coffin.
      2. +22
        December 7 2017
        Quote: mishaia_23
        We are for the president’s Volodya, against America ...

        After Serdyukov with Vasilyeva, Chubay with Kudrin, Aifonchik with - “There is no money, but you hold on”, after total theft throughout the country and fooling the people, after the last statement that athletes (and all people) can stand under the white flag on OI ... THE PUTIN IS OUT!
        Aligarhat is getting richer, and the people are getting poorer. The gap between the poor, the rich and the middle class (which is also turning into the poor) has already reached critical dimensions. Insolent theft and corruption and slurred criminal cases with ridiculous sentences clearly show that people are being held for a herd of brainless rams.
        There are many words about the greatness of the nation, about the revival of Russia, about the honor of dignity and the assertion of the fact of historical victories ... but in the end it turns out that these are just words.
        Huge amounts of money went to the West into overshores, and so they go, and they pour the people in the ears that there is no money in the country. And this is in the largest and richest country in the world! For whom do the rulers led by the Supreme keep us? For d.b.i.l.o.v!
        Putin disappointed me. And now I’ll say that I won’t vote for him. Enough.
        1. +9
          December 7 2017
          Quote: NEXUS
          For whom do the rulers led by the Supreme keep us? For d.b.i.l.o.v!

          Already 27 years old, and the last 18 are especially active!
          Quote: NEXUS
          Putin disappointed me. And now I’ll say that I won’t vote for him. Enough.

          Dear Colleague! hi I will not recognize you what And I will add that after everything opens, you will be ashamed of the fact that you even once voted for him. But how warm is better late than never. Yes
          1. +4
            December 7 2017
            I won’t vote for him either, I disappointed. Expel Nabiullina, Dvorkovich, other pro-Western agents, then I still believe ... But the question is - for whom then?
            1. +4
              December 7 2017
              Quote: evaee
              But the question is - for whom then?

              I’m for Grudinin, and if they don’t let him in, I can’t go. I’ll go fishing good
              1. +7
                December 7 2017
                Quote: Stroporez
                I’m for Grudinin, and if they don’t let him in, I can’t go. I’ll go fishing

                1. +1
                  December 7 2017
                  Grudinin is being nominated as an independent candidate from the PDS of the NDSR — this is a broad coalition. Look interesting. hi
            2. Zug
              +1
              December 8 2017
              And the world is not without smart people in Russia - we will find
        2. +1
          December 8 2017
          Vote for Navalny correctly and everything will be the other way around! And I advise you to read the dissertation "Medical and social consequences of drug abuse (clinical and epidemiological studies in Yekaterinburg). Maybe this will stop you.
        3. Zug
          +2
          December 8 2017
          Yes ... dear Nexus, I have been reading you for a long time and I don’t recognize you after your post above ... like I wrote a year and a half like that, I was executed here almost figuratively 20 times ... who didn’t call me here ....
          1. +3
            December 8 2017
            Quote: Zug
            Yes ... dear Nexus, I have been reading you for a long time and will not recognize you after your post above ..

            Stupid is the person who is not able to change his point of view, due to stupidity or obstinacy.
            Alas, I believed Putin, but after all that I described above, and moreover, I became disappointed in him.
            1. Zug
              +2
              December 8 2017
              What do you think I didn’t believe? I believed the same and thought everything will start to change ... alas
    2. +13
      December 7 2017
      The point is not in the pictures, but in our realities - the Russian Empire, the USSR, Russia ... is the legacy of certain political and national traditions that have nothing to do with the Western liberal society that arose as a result of the Reformation! Community and strong centralized power expressed through the personality of the ruler! The 90s showed the true face of liberal values, or rather, that in Russia such a form of political structure results in extremely destructive consequences. Bad Putin, good, that’s not the point - he, as a strong and whole person, is the concentrated essence of Russia's mentality with its deep political and historical traditions! The dumb West does not understand that their way of life conflicts with our understanding of their own world order at the genome level among the majority of the population of our country ... Therefore, the Anglo-Saxon policy, including the humiliation of our sport, in the hope of stirring up the people and raising them against Putin, on the contrary, our people rallies and increases% of GDP support! This also applies to most young people.
      1. +28
        December 7 2017
        Quote: Finches
        hoping to stir up the people and raise them against Putin,

        That's right, do not rock the boat, our boyars are sick ....
        1. +6
          December 7 2017
          I'm not from the boyars, but the same makes me sick of this ...
        2. +4
          December 7 2017
          Quote: ranger
          That's right, do not rock the boat, our boyars are sick ...


          The current boyars remember how the revolution ends ...

          We also remember ...

          The current boyars should be grateful to us, those who remember, for what we do not recall.

          These are different things ...
      2. +3
        December 7 2017
        The point is not in the pictures, but in our realities - the Russian Empire, the USSR, Russia ... is the legacy of certain political and national traditions that have nothing to do with the Western liberal society that arose as a result of the Reformation! Community and strong centralized power expressed through the personality of the ruler! The 90s showed the true face of liberal values, or rather, that in Russia such a form of political structure results in extremely destructive consequences. Bad Putin, good, that’s not the point - he, as a strong and whole person, is the concentrated essence of Russia's mentality with its deep political and historical traditions! The dumb West does not understand that their way of life conflicts with our understanding of their own world order at the genome level among the majority of the population of our country ... Therefore, the Anglo-Saxon policy, including the humiliation of our sport, in the hope of stirring up the people and raising them against Putin, on the contrary, our people rallies and increases% of GDP support! This also applies to most young people.


        That stop a hundred pluses would put to you. "Aki the god said." hi
      3. +7
        December 7 2017
        Rubbish. Election rubbish. The Reformation is intertwined. Europe had someone to rob, as later the USA had someone to rob. There was no one to Russia, not because there were all such highly moral ones, but just around there were still poorer.
        Liberal values ​​(whatever that means) have not gone anywhere since the 90s.
        Putin should you peck about liberalism? Hang a poster on his chest?
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4iYgGWmH1k
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3W1ayjak-Z0
        Strong and solid, concentrated - chewing snot for the second ten years. His instructions are not followed to any extent. All messages are sent ... back. Traditions?
        The dull west is successfully introducing its way of life in us.
        Humiliation of what? Sports? What kind of sport? Is this a sport? Who has more money and pharmacology is stronger, who has more political influence and arrogance, he is a champion.
        In the hope of stirring up, our top is actively working. Boards hang up with ghouls, then they call us cattle, they can’t answer for defeat in sports at all, they started the conversion again.
        1. +4
          December 7 2017
          Youth is a flaw that passes quickly! Stupidity - never ...hi
      4. +2
        December 7 2017
        I am sure that all of us are united by the desire to restore justice. It is very important not to spoil the fever, for which there is a calculation, but to act calmly and verified, to popularize sports among young people in revenge, to expose the false accusations of the Maklarenov and Rodchenkovs, to check the suction desk near the West under the guise of the WAD for the whole Western world and create a truly independent and transparent structure -analogue. And an excellent occasion to understand the discrediting sports in the eyes of officials of their own athletes. If purges occur regularly among security officials, then it is time to transfer this to all spheres of the life of the state, science, education, sport, culture so that the bureaucratic army understands that responsibility is always, everywhere and from the very top. I think this task can be done by Putin, all the more so since there is no one else with such a credit of trust and support among the population,
        1. 0
          December 7 2017
          In revenge to whom? Now, if our authorities could clearly and distinctly, without a dummy in the mouth, respond to the West, then in retaliation to the West. And since ours only mumble, it is they that cause irritation and disbelief.
          The task of restoring order was beyond the power of Putin and the government, which had changed many times over since his .... appointment.
      5. Alf
        +3
        December 7 2017
        Quote: Finches
        This also applies to most young people.

        The country of managers. I wonder if these
        Almost 70% of Russian youth
        ask which one of them is going to go to the machine tool after school, what kind of answer will we get? In the best case, they’ll twist a finger at the temple and say, I want to work in the office, buy-sell, dad will attach.
        Country of managers ...
    3. +29
      December 7 2017
      According to my observations, Putin will really gain no more than 40% ... Even in VO, his supporters have become noticeably smaller.
      Quote: Login_Off
      Bayan, it was already.
      1. +12
        December 7 2017
        S. Altov has a story "Wolves and Sheeps." I use it in my questions and answers.
        I would like to solve two issues. The first question about the birth rate in the country and the growth of a happy population:
        What kind of increase in livestock can we talk about when the birth rate of some is carried out due to the bite of others ?!

        The second one. To whom as a result of everything it becomes fun and free:
        The sheep was pulled up, someone said.
        - Who lifted up ?! I ask: who dared to raise a sheep during a meeting?
        - Well, I lifted up. Accidentally, said the one-eyed wolf. - She first started. I defended myself.
        “Did everyone hear that?” - The leader nodded his head approvingly. - The wolf found the courage to say, "I did it!" Here is an example of self-criticism! Sheep understood how to behave now? If any of you accidentally bit someone or lifted up, do not hush up! Come out and be honest! See, you will immediately feel better!
        One-eyed, did you feel better?
        - A lot! - one-eyed hiccuped.

        It went from the time of HMS ...
        1. +2
          December 7 2017
          Quote: Esoteric
          I would like to solve two issues. The first question about the birth rate in the country and the growth of a happy population:
          It's just .... Nate
          Quote: Esoteric
          Second. To as a result of all It becomes fun and easy:
          EEEEE- As a result what - "Total"?
          1. Zug
            +1
            December 8 2017
            how many of the fraternal republics of the abreks moved to have such indicators?
      2. +9
        December 7 2017
        Svarog

        He’ll pick up normally! Don’t worry and it’s not less, just others have activated ...
      3. +6
        December 7 2017
        Quote: Svarog
        Even in VO, its supporters became noticeably smaller.

        At VO, as elsewhere on the network, State Department propagandists rule, at the lower levels - commentators Ukrainians work with them, - they know the language, they are very cheap, they have dirtied the entire Russian-speaking network.
      4. +10
        December 7 2017
        Quote: Svarog
        Even in VO, its supporters became noticeably smaller.

        He’ll normally pick up, but many have left for VO, many have been banned, and before every election in all resources there are a lot of “agitators” for one candidate or another, with the cries of the boss, everything was gone, but not indicating real problems and how to fix them. hi
      5. +2
        December 7 2017
        Let's bet, I think no less than 70% smile
      6. Alf
        +2
        December 7 2017
        Quote: Svarog
        According to my observations, Putin will really gain no more than 40% ...

        Not less than 70%. According to the count in the election commission.
    4. 0
      December 7 2017
      I wonder what they call themselves now?
    5. 0
      December 7 2017
      Agitprom modestly works - you need 100%.
    6. +5
      December 7 2017
      Quote: Login_Off
      Bayan, it was already.

      then stupidly voted for the loot.
      more precisely practiced.
      could not earn sickly.
      and now they’ll just vote for the loot (for individual citizens).
    7. Zug
      0
      December 8 2017
      Right now, how much land China has donated for 50 years, more than 500 hectares, who lived there for a scruff of the neck and over there, the Chinese comrades will grow tomatoes and cucumbers, the forests are cut down almost without control, everything is poached - nothing will be lost, as the Chinese say, here we will plant rice .... Saw the Far East
  2. +17
    December 7 2017
    And they say that the youth didn’t go right ... Everything is normal with the youth.
    1. +7
      December 7 2017
      Quote: Frol
      And they say that the youth went wrong ...

      At a rally in favor of Navalny, one can draw the same conclusion, just the opposite. Although, at our work a year ago, young people were for Putin, I hope nothing has changed in their minds
    2. +16
      December 7 2017
      Everything is normal with the youth.

      smile But Kolya from Urengoy in the German Bundestag refutes this.
      1. +6
        December 7 2017
        So democracy and freedom of speech, in a free country we live just about and used the constitutional right to say what he wants, but the caravan went on ...
      2. +3
        December 7 2017
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        But Kolya from Urengoy in the German Bundestag refutes this.


        Lyokha “killed” just Frol.

        Guys, nothing personal laughing hi drinks
      3. +1
        December 7 2017
        and easily sold grandfather for several hundred euros ...
    3. +4
      December 7 2017
      Quote: Frol
      Everything is normal with the youth.

      Do you have in Moscow? Well, still ... But there are places in Russia where young people start at the age of 45 ...

      Quote: verner1967
      Although, at our work a year ago, young people were for Putin, I hope nothing has changed in their minds

      Although, in our village a few years ago young people were ... crying
      At our place of work - where is it? ... At MGIMO? or on the ORT channel? belay Believe me, those who do not have work and who work for food without the prospects of housing and career growth "FAITH ONLY IN PUTIN, UNDER THE Coffin"
  3. +6
    December 7 2017
    Yes, who would doubt it. Another convincing election victory is just around the corner.
    1. +23
      December 7 2017
      Quote: skylare
      Yes, who would doubt it. Another convincing election victory is just around the corner.


      Do not win - so draw. Was VTsIOM randomly conducting a survey not at a congress of volunteers? what kind of youth is he talking about? You monitored social networks - complete apoliticality and fixation on yourself. 20 percent will go to vote in general, 17 of them - for Navalny ..... In the Caucasus they will draw the necessary numbers, the military and state employees will simply be driven into sections by the formation
      1. SOF
        +3
        December 7 2017
        Survey figures indicate that you will have to draw. Yes, that's just - a donut hole, not Sharapova. Each time, the holes for drawing are becoming less and less.
        1. +2
          December 7 2017
          wait and see. If for the 12th year: out of 71 votes for GDP- 701 (665%). 45 602 075 scored a bolt at the polls
          1. SOF
            +1
            December 7 2017
            And this is correct: wait and see, and not the hysterical-bacchanal Makhnovism developed here by pseudo-patriots.
      2. +13
        December 7 2017
        Quote: Nonna
        Do not win - so draw.

        I agree with you! Tired of cheering patriotic squeals and polls among lured individuals, and especially the formidable prophecies of sofa generals not smelling gunpowder !!! Personally, I was ashamed yesterday for the "spontaneous" decision of the supreme. The laurels of Leonid Ilyich do not give rest ?!
        1. AUL
          +6
          December 7 2017
          At the same time, “75% of young people answered that Putin is in line with their ideas about the ideal president of Russia; almost half of the respondents (46%) stated that they trust the current president and are convinced that he is successfully coping with solving state problems; one third of respondents (32%) replied that they did not see anyone they could rely on, except for the modern leader of Russia; another 16% believe that public trust in Putin is connected with the hope of transformations in the country in the future, ”
          You just need to know where and from whom to ask. For example, among graduates of the FSB school. Or in the company of Mary Baghdosoryan.
        2. Alf
          +2
          December 7 2017
          Quote: edeligor
          Personally, I was ashamed yesterday for the "spontaneous" decision of the supreme. The laurels of Leonid Ilyich do not give rest ?!

          And for another statement yesterday about guilt was not ashamed?
          1. +1
            December 8 2017
            What statement are you talking about? There were a lot of them. If about yesterday - Siluanov does not imitate in discussions about the deceased reserve fund ... Unfortunately, no news from the Kremlin Olympus has been pleasing for a LONG time !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THEREFORE, I was ashamed! Yours faithfully...
            1. Alf
              +1
              December 8 2017
              Quote: edeligor
              What statement are you talking about?

              I'm talking about the Olympics.
              Quote: edeligor
              There were many

              That's it. There are many statements, but there is nothing to be proud of.
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    2. Alf
      +1
      December 7 2017
      Quote: skylare
      Another convincing election victory is just around the corner.

      That's interesting, why bother holding elections? You just need to announce on TV in the morning at 8-05 on March 11, 2018 that Putin won the election. Why spend money, tear people away from vacation?
      1. 0
        December 7 2017
        fundamentally disagree with you !!! Elections should be, but annually! Under this business, they give money to mothers, raise pensions, remember people. It's nice that at least once a year they remember you, and the wallet swells
        1. Alf
          0
          December 7 2017
          Quote: Overlock
          pensions increase

          In ruble terms or in real?
          Quote: Overlock
          Yes, and the wallet swells

          From satiety or from hunger?
          Quote: Overlock
          that at least once a year they remember you,

          Vote for us, otherwise the Americans, Chinese, Basmachi will come and rob you again.
          1. 0
            December 8 2017
            Quote: Alf
            In ruble terms or in real?

            Of course in rubles, and you thought, in bucks?
            Quote: Alf
            From satiety or from hunger?

            Well, if you raised your pension, you can buy something
            Quote: Alf
            Vote for us, otherwise the Americans, Chinese, Basmachi will come and rob you again.

            for you, for whom? And the rest of the brethren, in my opinion, live well in our country and so
            1. Alf
              +1
              December 8 2017
              Quote: Overlock
              Quote: Alf
              In ruble terms or in real?
              Of course in rubles, and you thought, in bucks?

              I mean that the number of rubles will increase, and the number of goods that can be bought for this amount will decrease.
              Quote: Overlock
              for you, for whom?

              Electorate.
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    1. +11
      December 7 2017
      Quote: Hunter
      Putin, at 18, will be 66 years old, he should have retired a long time ago, writing memoirs somewhere in the USA. And about support, duck here as in the DPRK with it all in full openwork.

      1. age 66 is nothing for a politician)) we will not go far Donald Trump age 71 years, Angela Merkel age 63 years.
      2. about support: name from the whole crowd that went to the polls a sane candidate. or will you vote “against all”?). although "against all" is already occupied by a horse denying that the Russian Crimea)))
      Threat for Putin's vote is worth it even for one reason: if only there were no any mares in power, who consider the Russians degenerates, and its territories belong to other countries.
      1. +9
        December 7 2017
        At the same time, “75% of young people answered that Putin is in line with their ideas about the ideal president of Russia.”


        So what ? 75% of young people believe that Giordano Bruno is a football player, and they write the word "girls" (and the TV commercial "What if a girlёnki "I still remember.)
      2. +11
        December 7 2017
        Quote: K0
        Threat for Putin's vote is worth it even for one reason: if only there were no any mares in power, who consider the Russians degenerates, and its territories belong to other countries.

        There are still Communist candidates. Chairman of the state farm Grudinin. He is much more famous than Putin from 1999 ... belay Here, after all, everyone is most concerned about the issue of prestige of the country, which the GDP so peremptorily “raised” with its attitude to the statement of the IOC. And besides all, the successor problem will be even tougher ... Or are you ready ... until the last breath?
        1. +2
          December 7 2017
          Quote: Esoteric
          Here, after all, everyone is most concerned about the issue of prestige of the country, which the GDP so peremptorily “raised” with its attitude to the statement of the IOC. And besides all, the successor problem will be even tougher ... Or are you ready ... until the last breath?

          I do not agree with the IOC. but you are not happy all his statements? or does it suit the part? for example about the Crimea. and it’s so interesting: Our Crimea - Putin, you are my hero! through the "day": Putin did not say so about the IOC - burn in hell!
          That's about the receiver right. but of the receivers, either Shoigu or Lavrov will suit me (but, if I don’t confuse, there is no practice in Russia of nominating Foreign Ministers to heads), maybe Gerasimov. I just don’t see them on the lists ...
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        1. 0
          December 7 2017
          Quote: Hunter
          But, in relation to Putin, it would be better for him to retire, he would go to his friend a hunchback.

          Yah! VV to the hunchback by his "accomplishments" is not suitable for soles.
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        2. +4
          December 7 2017
          Quote: Hunter
          Name at least one adequate patriot who is allowed into the central media? There is no way for a patriot to gain fame and authority in order to become a candidate for president. At the talk show, only Kremlin talking heads and pathetic opponents. For example, Strelkova will never be allowed into these talk shows under Putin.

          well, let’s say (speculatively, since there is no evidence of this, as usual). and who prevents these people from using other resources (the same YouTube)? and yes, of course, I won’t vote for Peter Fedotoch from the city of Gdetotam, from whose achievements he has only patriotism, without the experience of managing at least a region or a very large organization. here is the list of candidates http://president-rf.ru/page/candidates
          which of them suits you more than GDP? sign up the candidate is not so difficult, the main thing is not to have a deadline.
          Quote: Hunter
          It's like a grandmother in the market: if only there was no war. The war is already underway.

          Well, you're not a grandmother, are you? where are your alternatives? write an alternative, without shouting "everything is bad." otherwise I’m also talking about any I can write a country in the world.
          Quote: Hunter
          Destruction of railway nuclear missiles, base in Cuba, Vietnam
          Is Putin also to blame?)) Well, let's immediately accuse him of the Second World War)) and the fact that he worked at the KGB / FSB then was trivial)))
          Quote: Hunter
          awarding humpbacked order, eltsotsentr
          yes, it annoys me too.
          Quote: Hunter
          Ukraine became an enemy of Russia, F22 serial production in 2001, in Russia the beginning of state financing of PAKFA design only in 2006, etc., etc. - this is an incomplete list of Putin's actions, for which he will have to answer before history.

          some wild henna:
          1. This Putin pulled Ukraine to the west? gave them little gas for free? or vice versa - did you have to cut it on them?
          2. F22 - in 2001, of course we had as much money as in 2006, but you didn’t seem to notice the collapse in the 90s. anabiosis? ah, yes, for the 90s, too, he was to blame (he lived at that time).
          3. and, as usual, not a word about the country's achievements ... nor about the return to the Arctic, to the same Syria, the normal situation in Chechnya, the birth support program, etc. etc., for which of course he also has to "answer."
          Are you a Troll, or do you hate power because it is "power", or only personally Putin?
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            1. +2
              December 7 2017
              Quote: Hunter
              Take off the pink glasses. To be a real candidate for president, you must regularly appear at a talk show.

              just to become a candidate is enough to show a drop of initiative and register. but, something I don’t see there is almost anyone sane, especially those whom you mean. those. either they don’t see any reason to fight (and why the man who does not know how to defend our interests?), or simply initiative-less people who give up a little. for example, there is an entrepreneur from Novosib in the lists, nobody was building obstacles for her during registration.
              Quote: Hunter
              The railway complex of nuclear weapons was destroyed by Putin, and the intelligence base in Cuba was also destroyed by Putin. And so on. All that remains for you, for lack of arguments, is to grin your teeth. Whose interests does Putin serve? Ask a question to whom all this is profitable and get an answer.

              Well, I don’t grind my teeth, not dog tea, but you have a lot of funny things. According to Barguzin, I personally am sorry that such a weapon does not work ... but not until the hair is pulled out. in the end, we have better developed other (equivalent) mobile systems. on the basis: also a pity, but even less. 300 million dollars in 2000, and now all 600 probably, in my opinion it is better to spend on weapons within the country. but oh well, here Putin is a "villain."
              Quote: Hunter
              And what are the alternatives for patriots now? They are not here. It is only hoped that Putin is not eternal, and then maybe Russia will finally be lucky, a patriot will come to power.

              aaa ... i.e. the tactic is "I'm sitting, I'm not doing anything, because everything is pointless, I'm waiting for a win in the lottery"? you can start organizing meetings there, then, if there will be support, even rallies can be ... blogs, otherwise the government really oppresses so much that you can’t get out of the chair. I’m 100% sure that all of the following hands (no matter how many are) will serve the interests of the “non-Motherland”.
              Quote: Hunter
              Does the board solemnly set by Putin, Mannerheim, the traitor of Russia, guilty of the death of 623 thousand Leningrad women and children, not annoy you? Everything is clear with you.

              ? and Putin also ordered to hang it? Yeah. and removed it means not the authorities, but probably the people of the people? everything is clear with you.
              Quote: Hunter
              Ukraine has become an enemy of Russia - this is a disastrous result of Putin’s policy. The innermost aspirations of the Russophobes came true: Ukrainians and Russians became enemies, forever. Who benefits from this Putin policy?

              Of course, Putin is to blame for the fact that in the independent state of Ukraine there was a weak president, and also that he did not send troops there to disperse the Maidan - from then there would be peace and quiet. it was necessary to introduce troops under Yushchenko, right? and maybe earlier, in 2000, that is nothing to trifle with ...
              Quote: Hunter
              You are talking nonsense. Putin came to power in 2000, at the same time it was necessary to start state financing of programs for the development of promising types of weapons. But nothing was done. In whose interests did Putin act?

              Yes, you obviously spent this time in suspended animation or some very lucky well-fed place. because I remember in the 90s and early 2000s wild lines for groceries, penny wages, work for 2-3 jobs, and sticking in the gardens all weekend and vacation so that there was something to devour in the family. we clearly needed to immediately swell more money into the development of new weapons, instead of everything else.
              Quote: Hunter
              Yes, somehow against the backdrop of the strategic failures of Putin's foreign and domestic policy, its achievements are like a spoon of honey in a tar barrel.

              Yeah. and I compare it this way: I take the time in which I lived, see how much I needed to make efforts in the same job to get a salary for which I can support my family, as well as what I can save and what to buy now. because I can only compare with the 90s, then ... just awesome difference. it began to live under Putin, somehow at times better than under Yeltsin. and yes, sheer horror around: there are goods in stores in any city, and not just in Moscow, you can fly to the resort once a year, every fourth has a car, the army is re-equipped ... horror ... quiet horror.
              Quote: Hunter
              I love my homeland.

              here you just love her in "pink glasses" when you wait (just wait) for an unknown patriot who, at the click of a finger, will solve all problems. it will never be anywhere. 1000% sure that Nikolashka 2 (who infuriates me) was a patriot, Lenin was a patriot, Stalin, Brezhnev, Andropov, Alexander 2, Peter 1 and Almost all the rulers of the country were patriots, but only unsolved and enormous problems under any rule were higher than the roof. therefore, to shake the air “Putin leave, Wise, Strong, Fair, etc. come” is meaningless. therefore, I am waiting for an alternative from you, but you simply cannot offer it, because your unknown personalities are not even able to really imagine yourself (or the simplest - register), not like a country.
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                1. +3
                  December 7 2017
                  Quote: Hunter
                  Enough to carry nonsense. Shops in the 90s were packed with goods and there were no queues. You are apparently from birth in suspended animation.

                  Novomoskovsk city, Tula region in which I lived, in the store I had to stand in line for bread at 8:30, because by the opening at 9:00 there were so many people that there was not enough bread in the latter. show me here that all was enough. where was enough? in the capital and regional cities? he does not see the difference now under Yeltsin — well, look around, the difference is obvious, even blind.
                  Quote: Hunter
                  You don’t understand anything. Take off the pink glasses. Putin hung the board to the traitor and took off when the public was outraged.

                  Putin hung up? Order / order, what number, who signed? or from the category of evidence "which everyone knows, but cannot show"?
                  Quote: Hunter
                  Big money and airtime on central channels are needed. There were attempts there with the homeland of Rogozin and Glazyev, before this attempt by Primakov, before this attempt by Rutsky, before this attempt by the State Emergency Committee. As you can see, patriots are not passive, just liberals with the support of the United States are stronger. There are no volunteers to participate in the farce of the presidential election.

                  for Rogozin, who in the Putin team generally has 200 points out of 100, Primakov there too. great examples, bravo.
                  Quote: Hunter
                  Yeah, a salary of 20000-24000 in the province.

                  I live in a province in Siberia, if I can work a little with my head and hands, I can get about 30, I have enough for everything. I don’t eat sausage every day, but meat - I eat, it is cheaper in the end and tastier. and once to go somewhere is also enough (not in Abu Dhabi, however, but not in the garden). amazing I feel unique, thank you.
                  Quote: Hunter
                  Exactly, just rusty.

                  well, and in what years we had better with this matter, enlighten, maybe under the USSR with queues for several years (is this even if you accumulate on it)?
                  Quote: Hunter
                  Putin is guilty of allowing a split in the Russian world.

                  another statement from the category of "everyone knows, but cannot prove."
                  Quote: Hunter
                  You are confused in terms. Expression: in pink glasses, it means to see reality in a distorted, embellished form.

                  I’m not confused, you just see not reality, but that probabilistic future with the mythical patriot-genius of management. this can also be seen in pink: now everything is terrible, but here comes he and everything will be great.
                  PS I think our views do not radically coincide. you are waiting for some miracle that will never be under any authority, even if you raise Stalin, even Andropov, even Alexander 3; and I am waiting for stability, though not too tall, but tall. and I feel it with a ridge that no longer bursts, as in the 90s.
                  ZYY and by the way since the "military site", now it’s already worthy to serve in the army, and in the 90s, in which you do not see the difference, people threw crowds from there, because it was impossible to live on a beggarly salary. but no difference. yeah.
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                  2. +5
                    December 7 2017
                    Quote: K0
                    in the store it was necessary to stand in line for bread in 8: 30, because by the opening in 9: 00 there were so many people that there was not enough bread in the latter.

                    Can you name a year more precisely?
                  3. +1
                    December 8 2017
                    I completely agree with you, but spending time trying to find, or explain the logic to looped comrades is a futile exercise.
                    Many of them are ready to get into any adventure and then blame others for not being dissuaded .... Just listen to how they did not know how and do not know how.
                    Psi laughing Putin is not perfect, but somehow it happened (from GOD probably wassat ) there are no ideal people in this world, but it is full of idealists. hi
      4. +1
        December 7 2017
        Lenin at 52, was "grandfather Lenin."
        1. 0
          December 7 2017
          I love the Elections, At This time, Power recalls that there are people ...
  5. +8
    December 7 2017
    while 75% consider him the ideal president

    I hope GDP star disease will not get sick after that.
    Well, since everyone knows the GDP and everyone knows its talents and shortcomings ... once again it makes no sense to list them ... I’ll say only GDP now all efforts should be concentrated on the Russian economy ... not with a handful of oligarchs and officials .. ... and on ordinary citizens of the whole country ... promoting talented people to key positions ... only this is the guarantee of what movement forward.
    1. +18
      December 7 2017
      Your words, yes to God’s ears .... or to Putin!
    2. +12
      December 7 2017
      The whole problem is that Putin picks people up on the principle of loyalty, and that’s not right. This is my opinion. Professionals should work in the government, as was the case under the USSR. And now either relatives or sidekick.
      1. +7
        December 7 2017
        they owe it head over heels. What could be more loyal than a dependent person? Why smart? Against the backdrop of a fool, you yourself will be a smart person
        1. +6
          December 7 2017
          One emperor declared - they say he doesn’t need smart people, but loyal ones (he died from an "apoplexy hit with a snuffbox in the temple" - from "faithful comrades-in-arms" with the participation of his own son - a "big liberal!"
          1. +1
            December 7 2017
            Quote: anatoliy73
            need not smart but loyal

            I apologize, but this phrase from the Strugatsky novel - Paul I didn’t say such a thing
      2. +1
        December 7 2017
        always pulling their ... and in Soviet times, although it was not so obvious but it was.
    3. +14
      December 7 2017
      Quote: The same Lech
      ... I’ll say only GDP now all efforts should be concentrated on the Russian economy ... relying not on a handful of oligarchs and officials ... but on ordinary citizens of the whole country ... promoting talented people in key positions ... only in this the key to moving forward.

      It’s naive ... how naive the poll is about the youth ..

      How to explain the following to youth:
      “Two people were fired after the loss of 64 billion rubles (sixty four billion) rubles”

      Deputy Prime Minister and Plenipotentiary of the President of Russia in the Far East, Yury Trutnev, ordered to conduct an internal investigation and dismiss those responsible for the fact that most of the budgetary funds allocated for the development of airports in the Far East did not reach the goal. At the same time, two deputy heads of the Federal Air Transport Agency have already been fired, he told reporters following a meeting in Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk, TASS writes.
      1. 0
        December 7 2017
        It’s naive ... how naive the poll is about the youth ..


        Of course, it’s naive ... but it is necessary to strive for this ... it is necessary to say GDP in the eyes ... you look at how GDP meets with citizens ... unpleasant questions are most often asked by our opponents abroad ... but it would be necessary that did our citizens ... smile you need to understand that GDP is the same person as we are all on the forum ... only vested with the will of fate with very great power it fetters many ... the tsar-priest you see not every day live ... and still do not be afraid with talk to them on sore topics.
        1. +11
          December 7 2017
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          Of course it’s naive ... but we must strive for this ... it is necessary to say the GDP in the eye.

          And they don’t tell him that)) he is all God's dew ..
        2. +5
          December 7 2017
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          it is necessary to say GDP in the eye ... you look at how GDP meets with citizens ... unpleasant questions are most often asked by our opponents abroad ... but it would be necessary for our citizens to do this ... you need to understand that GDP is the same person like all of us here on the forum ...
          yes, Shevchuk asked me about the meeting of GDP with cultural figures, despite requests from the administration not to do this, after that he’s not called
      2. +2
        December 7 2017
        Yuri Trutnev instructed to conduct an internal investigation and dismiss those responsible for the fact that most of the budgetary funds allocated for the development of airports in the Far East did not reach the goal.


        Well, they fired ... and where is the money? .... who will compensate the budget?

        One punishment is not enough ... you need to return the money to the treasury back at the expense of thieves in a 2-fold amount ...
        it should be so and not according to the TRUTNEV scenario.
    4. +3
      December 7 2017
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      I’ll only say GDP, now all efforts should be concentrated on the Russian economy ... while relying not on a handful of oligarchs and officials ... but on ordinary citizens of the whole country ... promoting key positions in talented people ... only this is the key to any movement forward.

      So let’s listen to what he says in his election program. Is he able to focus on internal problems and bring to power the professionals (not Serdyukov, Sechin. Millers, Chubais, Medvedevs ...) those who are behind these cases and these very ordinary citizens ... Now ordinary soldiers are behind Medvedev citizens? belay Of course they stand ... With shovels and pitchforks ... stop Hopefully ...
      1. AUL
        +6
        December 7 2017
        Quote: Esoteric
        So let’s listen to what he says in his election program.
        Well, you are a naive person! What do campaign promises have to do with future actions? laughing wassat
        1. 0
          December 7 2017
          woman loves with her ears ... man with his eyes ... draw conclusions ...
    5. +2
      December 7 2017
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      .. while relying not on a handful of oligarchs and officials ... but on ordinary citizens of the whole country.

      So they’ll get around, raise taxes, make “platons", and so will raise the VAT in little things.
    6. Alf
      0
      December 7 2017
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      I’ll only say GDP, now all efforts should be concentrated on the Russian economy ... while relying not on a handful of oligarchs and officials ... but on ordinary citizens of the whole country ... promoting key positions in talented people ... only this is the key to any movement forward.

      And what prevented him from doing this BEFORE?
      1. 0
        December 8 2017
        question into the void, do not answer sincerely
        1. Alf
          0
          December 8 2017
          Quote: Overlock
          question into the void, do not answer sincerely

          Alas.
  6. +24
    December 7 2017
    Putin is already the president of some neutral country, why does he need "so-called Russia"?
    1. +6
      December 7 2017
      Give neutral RUSSIA a neutral president. Neutral officials. Neutral athletes ... and at the end of the chain
      neutral toilet without plates ... M ... and ... F ... smile
      1. +1
        December 7 2017
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        Give neutral RUSSIA a neutral president. Neutral officials. Neutral athletes ... and at the end of the chain
        neutral toilet without plates ... M ... and ... F ...

        and same-sex marriage ....
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  7. +23
    December 7 2017
    Quote: mishaia_23
    To proudly develop the banner of the Russian flag ...
    In fact, who if not you (Putin)?

    ---------------------------
    Russia is our neutral power,
    Russia is our neutral country.
    Neutral will, neutral glory
    Your wealth for all time!
    Glory to our Fatherland is neutral,
    Neutral peoples age-old union,
    The ancestors of this wisdom is neutral!
    We are all neutrally proud of you

    --------------------
    On Twitter, people are already writing. I agree that we are now a "neutral" country.
    1. 0
      December 7 2017
      Yes, we know that people. On twitter. And what they write, and where.
      1. +4
        December 7 2017
        Quote: Mestny
        Yes, we know that people. On twitter. And what they write, and where.

        And we are familiar with people from London, from former Komsomol structures, from Valdai ... even as if yesterday we didn’t part with everyone ... Tell us how it was?
  8. +11
    December 7 2017
    Quote: The same LYOKHA
    I’ll only say GDP, now all efforts should be concentrated on the Russian economy ... while relying not on a handful of oligarchs and officials ... but on ordinary citizens of the whole country ... promoting key positions in talented people ... only this is the key to any movement forward.

    do you believe that Medvedev has already announced that he will be the Prime Minister and further. So everything remains the same.
    1. +1
      December 7 2017
      do you believe that Medvedev has already announced that he will be the Prime Minister and further. So everything remains the same.


      This is not faith ... but my wish as a citizen of RUSSIA to the candidate for president of Russia and to the incumbent president ... Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin ...

      in accordance with the constitution of Russia, the main source of power ...
      people of Russia
      ... this must be remembered by everyone ... and first of all, GDP and DAM.
      1. +7
        December 7 2017
        I would wish it too, but I’m afraid that they don’t WANT to listen to my requests
      2. +6
        December 7 2017
        Quote: The same LYOKHA

        This is not faith ... but my wish as a citizen of RUSSIA to the candidate for president of Russia and to the incumbent president ... Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin ...


        Yes, they do not care for your desires. Your voice does not mean anything, not you called him the successor, but Yeltsin and the family, which means that your opinion is not interested in the power of those in power from the word at all. But in order for you not to be upset, I will say even worse in many countries.
        1. +1
          December 7 2017
          Yes, they do not care for your desires. Your voice does not mean anything, not you called him the successor, but Yeltsin and the family, which means that your opinion is not interested in the power of those in power from the word at all. But so you
          not upset I will say in many countries even worse.


          It’s possible that it doesn’t ... even most likely it is ... but there are millions of people like me in RUSSIA and the task of these millions of RUSSIAN citizens is to get these people through elections through their legal requirements to fulfill what the people demand ... this process is not one years and decades ...
          people want everything at once ... but it doesn’t happen in life, you have to take small steps ... step by step forcing the state to fulfill its duties to citizens. smile

          There is another way more radical ... to arrange another ..17 year ... having again passed the next round in the development of society ... reaching the same result.
          1. +8
            December 7 2017
            Quote: The same LYOKHA
            people want everything at once ...but it doesn’t happen in life, you have to take small steps ... step by step forcing the state to fulfill its duties to citizens.

            You, young Putin, probably do not know that if the people want everything at once, then Vosr takes place, as in 1917 ...
            And the oligarchs want everything right away. Right by the faces of the face you can see who wants what. And in the government the guys are already gray with thoughts:
            In the morning I smear a sandwich -
            Immediately thought: what about the people?
            And the caviar does not climb into the throat,
            And compote does not pour into your mouth!

            Our people are waiting and working for food, without ideas, without emotions ... it just works. And he wants from the guarantor at least one:
            EQUALITY EVERYTHING BEFORE THE LAW
            1. +1
              December 7 2017
              You young Putin probably don’t know
              Wrong wise guy
              and with age and with equality before the law ...
              Probably you live without ideas and emotions ... therefore you equate everything in your own way smile meter bar.
  9. +3
    December 7 2017
    Now, the election campaign has begun
  10. 0
    December 7 2017
    Again Katz and Albats with Gozmans suffer 6 years). The year of the schizophrenic mouse is coming to an end, ahead of cleaning this suture)
    1. +21
      December 7 2017
      but in my opinion, they are in power. Katz, Gozman, Chubais, Medvedev and Co. Do not find?
  11. +17
    December 7 2017
    Wow, how quickly the questionnaires got their bearings, only Putin went to the polls, and right there you got — what a wonderful rating comes out. 75% consider it to be "ideal !!!", the eternal conflict of fathers and children on GDP, you see, is not reflected. I’m silent about the fact that not so long ago they were moaning that the youth from Navalny were going crazy, how many comments there were on this topic ... such a farce comes from the media - I recall Yuri Yulianovich and his song "Night play" about "Putin traveling around the country, and we are still in .... "
  12. +10
    December 7 2017
    That youth will graduate from school and let him get a job.
  13. +9
    December 7 2017
    Quote: Stirbjorn
    Wow, how quickly the questionnaires got their bearings, only Putin went to the polls, and right there you got — what a wonderful rating comes out. 75% consider it to be "ideal !!"

    ---------------------------
    By the way, blitz polls in social networks show such a rating. As for me, I have long been tired of the endless humiliation of both myself and the country. Therefore, Putin is deeply neutral for me.
    1. +2
      December 7 2017
      Quote: Altona
      Therefore, Putin is deeply neutral for me.

      You know, but it’s not bad that the Olympics will be held before the elections ... I won’t definitely vote for Bach ...
  14. +9
    December 7 2017
    I think that 70% is even not enough, if Churov is returned, there will be more. In the last election, 100% were given by mental hospitals and the Caucasus, national republics. Russian-speaking territories are much smaller. I wonder why?
  15. +4
    December 7 2017
    GAZavas. Who would doubt that . Successes after complete w in foreign policy and failure in domestic, patching trishkina caftan. Well, for lack of a stamp ... To get used to something, in our nudes, it’s hopes for a bright future.
  16. +13
    December 7 2017
    Quote: The same LYOKHA
    only in this is the guarantee of any forward movement.

    while moving backward or, at best, trampling in place. Moving forward is observed only in one direction - raise taxes, raise prices, withdraw free money from people.
    1. 0
      December 7 2017
      It's right ...what
  17. +3
    December 7 2017
    It would seem that everything is there. Live and be happy. But no. I want a Russian person justice, truth. Otherwise, he "and the piece does not go into the throat and does not pour compote in his mouth." Unfortunately, he is like that.
  18. +7
    December 7 2017
    Naive Nanai (Russian) youths. But it is understandable, if compared with the drunk, then the GDP looks pretty decent, but the more they have not seen and do not know. And they’ll look at the box with fairy tales, so the GDP is quite a “locomotive” that drags us all to the bright liberal future from the darkness of military communism and Brezhnev stagnation (in which for some reason it seems better to those who are over 40, it’s strange that then the old people, as they lived, neither porn, nor McDonald’s, for using drugs - prison, for pedagogy - prison, school uniforms and personal responsibility to comrades, censorship, gloom in a word). They go on the same everywhere.
    1. +2
      December 7 2017
      Quote: Trofim
      Naive Nanai (Russian) youths. But it is understandable, if compared with the drunk, then the GDP looks pretty decent, but the more they have not seen and do not know.

      The whole paradox is that the drunkard, young people about whom they are talking in a social survey, have not seen - these are students, the generation that was born under Putin, or walked in the nursery, in the last years of Yeltsin’s reign. The main argument of the “Zaputinians” against the “bulk” was precisely that these youngsters of the 90s weren’t found, they don’t understand how good it is to live under Putin. And now we began to hang noodles on our ears that students all of a sudden suddenly stood up for Putin ?! For him there was youth in the early 2000s, when he himself was a young and unknown leader, from whom changes were expected - recently, on the contrary, the media emphasized that Putin’s electorate consists of conservative middle-aged and elderly people ... Youth at all times yearned for change, and Putin now offers only some stability - so why such nonsense, about "75% consider it ideal" to carry to people ?! Most likely, the result will be the opposite, fierce, with such an attitude, the youth will rage before the elections, as in 2012
  19. +8
    December 7 2017
    Quote: K0
    if only there were no any mares in power, which the Russians consider to be degenerates

    explain then the fact that in 2012 Putin in five subjects (the Chechen Republic, the Republic of Dagestan, the Republic of Tuva, the Republic of Ingushetia, the Karachay-Cherkess Republic) gathered more than 90% of the vote.
    In the Vladimir region - 53, 49%, Yaroslavl - 54, 53%, in the Oryol region - 52, 84%.
    Russian-speaking territories do not agree with you!
    1. +15
      December 7 2017
      As a Dagestan, I’ll say that a maximum of 20% voted for him, they draw the rest, the lowest turnout in the Caucasus, too, do not believe what they say and tell, officials will draw any figure to please Moscow
      1. 0
        December 7 2017
        then it’s clear, thanks
  20. +10
    December 7 2017
    Quote: Svarog
    According to my observations, Putin will really gain no more than 40% ... Even in VO, his supporters have become noticeably smaller.
    Quote: Login_Off
    Bayan, it was already.

    And I thought it was a sinful thing that I thought so alone, it turned out that no drinks SUPPORT !!!
  21. +12
    December 7 2017
    A candidate for the coalition of the left forces can make a real alternative to Putin (Grudinin won the primaries), but Zyuganov will again go in for his role in such an election, to prevent the revival of the Union.
    1. +4
      December 7 2017
      Quote: Alex66
      but Zyuganov will go again; his role is to play elections, not to allow the revival of the Union.

      This cynic already went to the presidency in a team with Yeltsin. But Grudinin wants to be, if nominated ... It remains to organize the Communists and the Civil State Administration to hide his "I" in a purse ...
  22. +3
    December 7 2017
    ... This is what we came up with Windows
    That we defaulted
    We play live beatles
    And the aging Adrian Paul
    Our mothers in helmets and armor
    Fighting in blood about iron old age
    Our children swear
    We ourselves are almost gone ..
  23. +3
    December 7 2017
    Bored! All this we have already gone through.
  24. +3
    December 7 2017
    Oh already here the trolls have come out ..... LADIES GDP will still be the President! great!
    And even the Monarchs are better than him! to push the Western GNID to the end!
    1. +2
      December 7 2017
      Quote: Nitarius
      Oh already here the trolls have come out ..... LADIES GDP will still be the President! great!

      Yes, in the VO tape, hired State Department trolls already dominate, as elsewhere on the network where they are not severely banned.
      And there are very few such people where they will be banned - some forums without them would generally have died out.
    2. +3
      December 7 2017
      Quote: Nitarius
      Nitarius Today, 10:19 am New
      Oh already here the trolls have come out ..... LADIES GDP will still be the President! great!
      And even the Monarchs are better than him! to push the Western GNID to the end!

      while crushing, people will die ..
  25. +5
    December 7 2017
    Quote: Alex66
    A candidate for the coalition of the left forces can make a real alternative to Putin (Grudinin won the primaries), but Zyuganov will again go in for his role in such an election, to prevent the revival of the Union.

    Sue in the elections is the end of the Communist Party. Do the party really not understand this? Could not all the Communists scotch. Grudinina candidates !!!
  26. +15
    December 7 2017
    I don’t think so ... GDP has long disappointed the majority of the population of the Russian Federation, including young people. Most of the promises of GDP remained empty words, they no longer believe him and are doing it right
  27. +2
    December 7 2017
    Leeds
    ... fiercely added and supported by shkolota comments
    You gave a good description of "shkolota". Something has grown, brains have not yet become stronger, and hormones are seething. Where to splash out excess hormones if not in protest. It is more necessary to pay attention to youth and not give it up to Navalny-Gozmanam-Sobchak ...
  28. +3
    December 7 2017
    Another propaganda herd effect.
  29. +1
    December 7 2017
    I expect from Vladimir Vladimirovich (finally) the gradual nomination of a successor. It is known why. And not because Putin, according to some, "sat on the throne."
    6 next years should be enough.
  30. 0
    December 7 2017
    Well, then we will continue to read such news - https://lenta.ru/news/2017/12/06/vsepoplanu/
  31. +6
    December 7 2017
    My opinion is unchanged - when the GDP came to power, it was necessary to cancel the results of privatization. Reason - Yeltsin was sick and did not know what he was doing. Privatization had to be carried out on a new one, leaving the state 75% of natural resources, railways, enterprises, etc. And for 25% to slander with Abramovich, Alikperov and others in full ...
  32. 0
    December 7 2017
    Threat for Putin's vote is worth it even for one reason: if only there were no any mares in power, who consider the Russians degenerates, and its territories belong to other countries. So Putin appointed them rivals, so that people like you would consider him the best candidate. It’s as if you were offered to choose Lada or Mercedes at the same price
    1. +4
      December 7 2017
      It’s worth voting for Putin for all reasons (which is what I’ll do in the elections), if only because there are a lot of these reasons.
  33. +3
    December 7 2017
    And what Putin does not like as president? Defends national interests, do not like it?
    The military-industrial complex seems to be developing, airplanes, nuclear submarines, ships, tanks are being built. The army is in fair condition, dressed, shod, and armed to the teeth. NPK - "MIR" implemented as promised. Agricultural put in order. Satellites are launched, GLONASS in stock. A spaceport was built in the east. Rocket building, though not without problems, is developing. A sickly infrastructure is being created in the Arctic. Crimea was defended (there are many different theories on the net that would happen to him). In Syria, a tragic outcome was prevented, so that Russia would not intervene in this conflict now?
    And I do not deny that in Russia there are a lot of problems that need to be solved, but some, in my opinion, are not sickly losing touch with reality, as long as they are ready for a pig in a poke instead of Putin, for the sake of interest, “it will probably be better”. But this is not some “Tsiva” with a save button, here the wrong decision is made, it can lead to not encouraging consequences. So not encouraging that Syria and the "404", a children's matinee may seem.
    1. +3
      December 7 2017
      Quote: AlexG83
      And what Putin does not like as president? Defends national interests, do not like it?

      but for the people, laws designed to finish off the people ... what is good for people? constant "belt tightening" ...
    2. +5
      December 7 2017
      Quote: AlexG83
      And what Putin does not like as president? Defends national interests, do not like it?

      The main national interest of the president and the state is the welfare of the people, and not of the oligarchs and others close to the body.
  34. +3
    December 7 2017
    Quote: The same Lech
    Everything is normal with the youth.

    smile But Kolya from Urengoy in the German Bundestag refutes this.


    But Vanya from Marine in Alexandroupolis Greece refutes Kolya and his patrons from Urengoy and the State Department ...


    Seeing the root, respected youth ... The Russian Federation does not need a president, but the Commander-in-Chief of its Armed Forces.
    Russia does not need a man-screen behind which bankers and oligarchs are operating, but the leader of the National Liberation Movement, which is headed by Putin.
  35. +5
    December 7 2017
    Quote: AlexG83
    And what Putin does not like as president? Defends national interests, do not like it?
    The military-industrial complex seems to be developing, airplanes, nuclear submarines, ships, tanks are being built. The army is in fair condition, dressed, shod, and armed to the teeth. NPK - "MIR" implemented as promised. Agricultural put in order. Satellites are launched, GLONASS in stock. A spaceport was built in the east. Rocket building, though not without problems, is developing. A sickly infrastructure is being created in the Arctic. Crimea was defended (there are many different theories on the net that would happen to him). In Syria, a tragic outcome was prevented, so that Russia would not intervene in this conflict now?
    And I do not deny that in Russia there are a lot of problems that need to be solved, but some, in my opinion, are not sickly losing touch with reality, as long as they are ready for a pig in a poke instead of Putin, for the sake of interest, “it will probably be better”. But this is not some “Tsiva” with a save button, here the wrong decision is made, it can lead to not encouraging consequences. So not encouraging that Syria and the "404", a children's matinee may seem.

    Dear, answer, how much money will we invest in restoring Syria? For some reason, it has not been written anywhere that Syria is an oil-rich country, that our country will receive so much and so much for restoring the infrastructure of cities and houses. Everywhere they write that we will give a lot of money for the restoration of Syria. Our EMERCOM aircraft flew to New Orleans, and when we had fires, at least one American plane flew in? Can our EMERCOM planes fly out of the MKAD and provide mobile power stations, warm linen for their residents?
    1. +1
      December 7 2017
      Quote: Ingvar0401
      Dear, answer, how much money will we invest in restoring Syria? For some reason, it has not been written anywhere that Syria is an oil-rich country, that our country will receive so much and so much for restoring the infrastructure of cities and houses. Everywhere they write that we will give a lot of money for the restoration of Syria. Our EMERCOM aircraft flew to New Orleans, and when we had fires, at least one American plane flew in? Can our EMERCOM planes fly out of the MKAD and provide mobile power stations, warm linen for their residents?

      This is a hackneyed stereotypical disc about the fact that "Russia does nothing for its own, but gives everything to strangers for free."
  36. +6
    December 7 2017
    "If youth knew
    If old age could ".... ©
    75% of young sheep are the result of a 17-year reign of GDP.
    1. +4
      December 7 2017
      And what is wrong with the GDP board? Would it be better for these seventeen years to rule Comrade Yeltsin? Imagine at least for a minute what kind of a place we would be now ?! I think, biscuits to eat American for happiness would be. Most of the population ...
      1. +1
        December 7 2017
        20 million beggars, and this is according to official statistics. In a country rich in natural resources. And more than 130 thousand dollar millionaires, all of these resources have tidied themselves. Somehow I do not want to be proud of it. So, as Elkin taxied, Putin rules the same way - people are impoverished, thieves and fraudsters are getting richer.
        And then - the youth for Navalny-duped youngsters.
        But the youth for Putin-made the right choice.
        It looks like double standards.
        1. +2
          December 8 2017
          God knows. Everyone is feeling bad, while everyone drives cars. Our poor turner already has two! And everyone complains how sickly he is living hard ...
  37. +7
    December 7 2017
    Quote: AlexG83
    And what Putin does not like as president? Defends national interests, do not like it?

    and we collect money for treatment for children in a box. And if they didn’t collect it, the child died. And if this is your child? And more importantly, barmalei in faraway Syria or the life of your child? Decide for yourself that the future of the country is our children or Syria?
    1. +2
      December 7 2017
      Quote: Overlock
      and we collect money for treatment for children in a box. And if they didn’t collect it, the child died. And if this is your child? And more importantly, barmalei in faraway Syria or the life of your child? Decide for yourself that the future of the country is our children or Syria?

      Is such a "distant Syria"?
      Have you ever seen what scumbags got up there which the videoconferencing grinds / grinds? And how many of them come from Russia and the CIS? It would have been calmer if I had slept knowing that such rabble could return to Russia and settle in cities / villages before the "Hour X", roughly speaking? The inscription "Russia you next" on the walls in the destroyed Syrian cities, apparently did not cause any concern? Can you predict where the obscurantists would go after the collapse of Syria? And the overall situation in the Middle East with such an outcome, given that everyone is in charge of the "partners" there.
      That's just for the sake of a quiet life of children in their own countries and entered Syria.
      1. +4
        December 7 2017
        that is, let our children die without treatment, but will we shoot in Syria? Only now the misfortunes of the barmaleis have now moved to Afghanistan. How will we fight in Afghanistan? No money, said the Prime Minister.
        Apparently your family is in good health, it’s good. but it all ends once, and health too ....
        1. +1
          December 7 2017
          Quote: Overlock
          that is, let our children die without treatment, but will we shoot in Syria?

          It was not me who formulated such an absurd message about "either children or Syria."
          Where is the general logic in this? The presence in Syria is a necessary measure, why should the problems of medicine be dragged here? Let the officials move ... convolutions, how to establish the proper level of medicine. So they plan to cut the military commissar, it has been said many times, enterprises are obliged to adapt to the production of civilian products. But you probably can’t please here either?
          Only now the misfortunes of the barmaleis have now moved to Afghanistan.

          Not the barmalei, but their scum.
          1. +1
            December 7 2017
            there is such a document, the budget of the country for 2018. called.
            We read: the federal budget spending on healthcare in 2018 will amount to 460 billion rubles., in 2019 - 428 billion rubles.
            Reference: in 2015 -371 786 604,7 billion rubles, in 2016 - 475 575 526,5 billion rubles, in 2017 -362 billion rubles.
            Given the exchange rate (everything is bought in health care for the currency) -financing is reduced even more.
            Health care at least somehow produces material values ​​- restores health to the productive forces. The army does not produce material values, it spends them. Do you think our planes fly to Syria in a holy spirit? Is there holy water in tank engines?
            If somewhere decreases, then somewhere arrives, the law of conservation of energy. Money is falling in Russia and arriving in Syria (war requires primarily money).
            Therefore, the question arises "either - or." Otherwise, our government does not work.
            What will we do with the flaws in Afghanistan - the border has become even closer?
      2. +3
        December 7 2017
        Putin is on a fourth term. What would I as a voter want from candidate Putin? And the whole of Russia that could get from him?
        Well, of course, money.
        One hundred and a half billion dollars of our government money is buried in treacherous US securities.
        These one hundred billion will be taken away anyway soon.
        Good guys are robbing bad guys - this is the norm in international politics, it’s only we all forgive and forgive the debts of fraternal Uzbekistan.
        This money must be returned. And invest in medicine.
        Because everything else is something good, something bad, but generally tolerable.
        You can drive on a bad road, you can live in a so-so apartment, you can study in a mediocre school.
        But when you see an ordinary Russian hospital ... Not even doctors - doctors are often just good, heroic even, but just what it looks like, how much space and how many people there are, how much they pay to staff, how they feed, and what kind of spirit - crowding, poverty, ragging, hopelessness - you understand: no, you can’t live like that.

        Candidate Putin, invest money invested in America in Russian health!

        Anyway, I repeat, they will not be soon - we are already too bad.

        But we bad ones would still like to live.

        ➡ Source: https://publizist.ru/blogs/110521/21834/-?utm_sou
        rce = finobzor.ru
  38. +2
    December 7 2017
    Quote: Mestny
    Yes, we know that people. On twitter. And what they write, and where.

    --------------------
    And what do you think should be written? Give Putin for a period of seventy?
  39. +1
    December 7 2017
    Quote: cedar
    Russia does not need a man-screen behind which bankers and oligarchs are operating, but the leader of the National Liberation Movement, which is headed by Putin.

    ---------------
    Gazprom and Rosneft are guarded by Putin. EVERYTHING!
  40. +2
    December 7 2017
    Quote: cedar
    Russia does not need a man-screen behind which bankers and oligarchs are operating, but the leader of the National Liberation Movement, which is headed by Putin.

    ,, You can’t control the movement-head it ,, (c) .. and behind its screen, bankers and oligarchs will continue to act with impunity. He created them himself by building power in the vertical. Or do you think that they have become fat from their own genius and from scratch ??? laughing
  41. +2
    December 7 2017
    Yeltsin was lower than the plinth, but thanks to technology, he easily paid Zyuganov, although the drunk and careerist and only the blind did not see Borka, and here the hedgehog which is above all and any technology and will easily and unconstrainedly and slightly cry for 6 years)
  42. +1
    December 7 2017
    Quote: Nonna
    what kind of youth is he talking about?

    by "our", "Young Guard" and their followers
  43. +3
    December 7 2017
    Give up a turnout of 147% !!! fellow

    What is it, aah, other candidates, right now (wears a pince-nez) we’ll see .... takss - Listv, Lebedev, Evdokimov, Petukhov Yu.D. (author of the books “Slaughter”, “Genocide”), Melnikov (We will put a monument to the village on Red Square in Moscow) ... - oh you mom! so they are all already at the forefathers, strange, still young, to live and live, for which they killed - it is not clear ...

    What trolls do I look like a troll?
    and Chubais weakly choose?
    and Kudrina?
    and Nabiullina?
    and Ulyukaev?
    and Serdyukov?
    and Medvedev? - ugh, God forgive me, as they say, do not remember the names of demons in the bustle.

    In fact, an interesting story, there are no sensible candidates, the GDP is trying to become the president of a neutral country, and the population is again neutral and neatly pays for this election.
    Show.
    "What to do?" O yes! Our favorite question winked Want an answer? Very simple wink The last, probably, a couple of years, such a concept as “PUBLIC RESONANCE” appeared, spread and strengthened in force.
    Well Serdyukov and Vasilyeva as an exception))) although how to look, they are still excluded from the life of society and are constantly "under public supervision", which is also + for birds of this kind laughing

    What I want to say, who did not understand - there is no need for revolutions, rallies, marches - but if I found out that, I posted it on the Internet, for all the resources and it started ..... crying good

    Well, we don’t have any other possibilities of influence so far; And you won’t kill the Internet, you won’t poison, you can’t set up an accident bully
  44. +3
    December 7 2017
    Quote: AlexG83
    Let the officials move ... convolutions, how to establish the proper level of medicine.

    officials in medicine are the same as in the Ministry of Internal Affairs, agriculture, etc. After very little is stolen.
    I repeat- what officials I’ll hurt a sick person, he needs to be treated and maybe saved. You agree with this, I am convinced. But how to save if there are no syringes, drugs and much more? Yes, there are already not enough doctors! You would like a doctor from Tajikistan to treat you. Of Uzbekistan? I am not a racist, but I know the answer to my question - I would not want to. And you?
  45. +2
    December 7 2017
    Quote: DEPHIHTO
    Quote: cedar
    Russia does not need a man-screen behind which bankers and oligarchs are operating, but the leader of the National Liberation Movement, which is headed by Putin.

    ,, You can’t control the movement-head it ,, (c) .. and behind its screen, bankers and oligarchs will continue to operate with impunity. He himself created them by building power in the vertical.Or do you think that they are fat from their own genius and from scratch ??? laughing


    I believe that Russia had and still have enemies who defeated it in 1991 both economically and politically. Naturally, they put their administration of collaborators, you are certainly not one of them ...
    From them it is necessary to free the country and people. This requires the National Liberation Movement. He needs a Leader and an awareness of the occupation, a people, not you ...
    There is a leader - this is Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, Supreme Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.
    Army and Navy available. The people whether he wants it or does not want it, but will figure out who robbed and robbed him, and who defended and protects. This is not the first time in Russian history that the people and their leaders have separated grains from the chaff ...
  46. +1
    December 7 2017
    And what is considered youth? A question asked me ...
  47. +1
    December 7 2017
    Quote: DEPHIHTO
    You can’t control the movement-head it ,, (c) .. and bankers and oligarchs will continue to operate with impunity behind its back-screen. He himself created them by building power in the vertical. Or do you believe that they have become fat from their own genius and from scratch???

    what are we talking about! Putin’s foreign policy is no matter of principle, but inside the country, what?
    So it turns out that Medvedev, Shuvalov, Gref, Serdyukov, Vasilyev, Zakharchenko and Co. are attached to Putin. And these applications are far from harmless, they are harmful to the country. But Putin does not see / sees and does not want / cannot remove them (cross out the unnecessary).
  48. +3
    December 7 2017
    I, too, would have voted for Putin. Good Putin.
  49. +1
    December 8 2017
    “Almost 70% of Russian youth are ready to cast their ballots in the presidential election in 2018 for the incumbent head of state, Vladimir Putin, while 75% consider him the ideal president.”
    I am very wary of the fact that the vast majority of the population considers the president ideal. Life shows that these are gullible people, and that they can easily betray later. As it was with others.
    And to say that Putin is the ideal president is too much. This is a person, and this is a man of work. He was able to correctly prioritize in a difficult environment. I was able to bring the interests of the "elites" (read thieves in our opinion) to a common denominator and turn them to the benefit of the country. But if it continues to build a state, relying on the oligarchs, then they will eat it and the country. After which he will cease to be perfect and 75% of fan admirers will betray him.
    If not his, then his successor. For there will be no second Putin. Putin does not rally the people around him on real grounds. The slogans of Russia forward, if not Putin, then who, etc. do not carry any semantic load and do not open the future for the people. He does not recognize that the basis of the development of the state is free labor. He has no party of millions. What awaits us with the end of the Putin era?
  50. +1
    December 8 2017
    I am very sad that the political strategists of Vladimir Putin, apparently, most of the citizens of the Russian Federation consider them to be mentally "limited".
    They gathered employees at the enterprise, put on clean clothes, carried out face control and distributed questions .... and ...
    This is FUNNY !!!
    For whom and for whom this presentation: I will go to the polls!
    Not tired of this clowning format!
    For whom and for what purpose are these blanks? So that all then “in the kitchen” say: Yes, not far from Brezhnev left ...
    Is it really impossible to do everything in working order, with dignity and peace.
    What a holiday event this is: I'm going to the polls!
    Clowns ........!

    Question two;)
    Which team?
    And this I consider the main question!
    What I see in V.V. domestic policy Putin, I, as a citizen of the Russian Federation, is not happy.
    And I say this choice: No.
    I am not happy with the prevailing liberal vector in the domestic politics of the president.
    I am not happy with Prime Minister Medvedev and his team.
    The President determines the internal policy of the state and appoints the Prime Minister and the Government. The President bears full responsibility for the actions of the Government of the Russian Federation in all plenipotentiary areas.
    If Vladimir Putin goes to the polls with the same team, with the same government.
    The choice in this case is obvious to me.

    Question three;)
    A politician, no matter who he is, is obliged to prepare for himself a successor, and not just one, but several!
    To publicly introduce them to the people a few years before leaving and not to cook a "pig" in a poke!
    Our society has grown so “imperceptibly”, it is time to move away from gray schemes and pursue an open “transparent” domestic policy. Your nepotism has already decently got! Got flirting with the "partners" and a desire to please and please everyone!
    Vladimir Putin does not let competitors enter politics, not realizing that by such actions he cuts the road between Navalny and Sobchak
  51. +1
    December 8 2017
    Quote: cedar
    Quote: DEPHIHTO
    Quote: cedar
    Russia does not need a man-screen behind which bankers and oligarchs are operating, but the leader of the National Liberation Movement, which is headed by Putin.

    ,, You can’t control the movement-head it ,, (c) .. and behind its screen, bankers and oligarchs will continue to operate with impunity. He himself created them by building power in the vertical.Or do you think that they are fat from their own genius and from scratch ??? laughing


    I believe that Russia had and still have enemies who defeated it in 1991 both economically and politically. Naturally, they put their administration of collaborators, you are certainly not one of them ...
    From them it is necessary to free the country and people. This requires the National Liberation Movement. He needs a Leader and an awareness of the occupation, a people, not you ...
    There is a leader - this is Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, Supreme Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.
    Army and Navy available. The people whether he wants it or does not want it, but will figure out who robbed and robbed him, and who defended and protects. This is not the first time in Russian history that the people and their leaders have separated grains from the chaff ...

    laughing Is the commander-in-chief himself aware that the country and people need to be liberated from internal occupiers? And are there even these occupiers in his understanding? There are friends, but can you really suspect them? You should point out the enemy to him, do him a favor, otherwise he still won’t figure it out on his own...17 years. And then, oh, we’ll live... wassat
  52. +2
    December 8 2017
    Quote: DEPHIHTO
    Quote: cedar
    Quote: DEPHIHTO
    Quote: cedar
    Russia does not need a man-screen behind which bankers and oligarchs are operating, but the leader of the National Liberation Movement, which is headed by Putin.

    ,, You can’t control the movement-head it ,, (c) .. and behind its screen, bankers and oligarchs will continue to operate with impunity. He himself created them by building power in the vertical.Or do you think that they are fat from their own genius and from scratch ??? laughing


    I believe that Russia had and still have enemies who defeated it in 1991 both economically and politically. Naturally, they put their administration of collaborators, you are certainly not one of them ...
    From them it is necessary to free the country and people. This requires the National Liberation Movement. He needs a Leader and an awareness of the occupation, a people, not you ...
    There is a leader - this is Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, Supreme Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.
    Army and Navy available. The people whether he wants it or does not want it, but will figure out who robbed and robbed him, and who defended and protects. This is not the first time in Russian history that the people and their leaders have separated grains from the chaff ...

    laughing Is the commander-in-chief himself aware that the country and people need to be liberated from internal occupiers? And are there even these occupiers in his understanding? There are friends, but can you really suspect them? You should point out the enemy to him, do him a favor, otherwise he still won’t figure it out on his own...17 years. And then, oh, we’ll live... wassat


    There are no internal occupiers. This is external. The internal ones are traitors and accomplices who are dealt with by the FSB, the Prosecutor General's Office, and the Investigative Committee. If there are friends, then there are also enemies. Putin doesn’t have much of a choice... Either he will deal with it, or they will deal with him. The USA gave 6 months for everything. Three have already passed...
  53. +2
    December 8 2017
    Quote: Overlock
    But when you see an ordinary Russian hospital

    Recently, a patient came to a Russian clinic. They brushed him off as always. He went and lay down under the stairs and died. And he lay there for 2 days until he was discovered. These are the sad things in Russian hospitals. Because the good tsar knows nothing, and the boyars whom he appointed to the Ministry of Health are bad.
    1. +7
      December 8 2017
      Quote: 16112014nk
      Recently, a patient came to a Russian clinic. They brushed him aside as always

      As always - already a good presentation. That is, in all hospitals in the Russian Federation, patients are exclusively “brushed aside.” From everyone, yeah...
      Going further:
      Quote: 16112014nk
      He went and lay down under the stairs and died

      And the hospital security didn’t discover this within 2 days? And the patients who go up those stairs to smoke also closed their eyes?
      Do you even know what a two-day-old corpse smells like in a heated room??!
      What I mean is that you have to be able to lie. You don't know how.
      Quote: 16112014nk
      These are the sad things in Russian hospitals

      In all, as I understand it.
      Drive shamelessly request
      I don’t comment on “Tserei and boyars.” But if what you are so concerned about really took place, this is grounds for a criminal offense... Art. 124 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, at least.
      So, this... you need to be more careful, and more subtle... A fighter, damn it, of the invisible front negative
      1. 0
        December 8 2017
        Well, actually it wasn’t my idea. I wrote what Dorenko said two days ago on radio “Moscow Speaks”. And yes, a criminal case must be opened for the death of a sick person and the assistance not provided.
        1. +8
          December 8 2017
          Quote: 16112014nk
          said Dorenko

          A worthy source... well, okay, he said, you (for some reason) believed...
          Here is a case from my personal, from the union, practice:
          When I was about 20 years old, I had a sprained ankle (and after that I ran another three kilometers of cross-country and left Belyaev for the nearby Zamkadye). I also, ahem, limped home, but already on inertia.
          Mom looked and said - a cold compress and “morning is wiser than evening.” Well, so be it.
          In the morning, out of habit, I jump out of my bed - my leg breaks.... censorship... in short, a roar and various ideomatic expressions.
          OK. They find me a crutch and send me on foot to the village hospital.
          I come, I see a grandmother (really, really, a grandmother) surgeon, who, after a short conversation with me, simply sends me... ahem... back. No recommendations whatsoever.
          I repeat - USSR, 1981(?), polyclinic of the USSR Academy of Sciences.
          Did you send me? Well, they sent it. Was this typical? No, it was not.
          And from your recent comment (based on Dorenko, GYYYY), it follows that now:
          - in all hospitals of the Russian Federation
          - all patients
          - they send. Always.
          And this is a lie in its purest form.
          What I said above.
          That's about as request

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