In the Russian Federation they plan to create a mobile laser to combat drones

Russia intends to create a mobile laser complex for the destruction drones, transmits Interfax-AVN The message published on a site of state purchases.

Polyus Research Institute named after M.F. Stelmakh "holding" Shvabe "(the leading scientific center of Russia in the field of laser technology) announced a competition to perform an integral part of the experimental research work on the topic:" Development and experimental confirmation of the principles of building a mobile laser system to combat small unmanned aerial vehicles. Production of a liquid laser model, refinement of the technological complex and testing. "

According to the materials, “a demo sample of a complex with a liquid laser should automatically detect air targets before 20, identify an object (UAV / bird / cloud), affect targets with continuous laser radiation and hit them at a distance of 500-1000 meters.”

The cost of scientific research should not exceed 23 million 500 thousand rubles. Applications are scheduled to be considered 13 December. Research work must be completed in April 2018.

Comments

[maxim947]

The topic is very good and necessary, but you can’t think of anything worthwhile for that kind of money and SUCH time, in this case you won’t do any good research. The selection of cooperation and the conclusion of agreements with them takes only six months, and then if in a hurry. If only there are no ready-made developments.

[siberalt]

A good system for duck hunting. The generals should like it. Immediately duck grill will work. In LDNR, such drones land without any lasers.

[just exp]

Well, in comparison with mattress products, ours are not swinging the impossible at the moment.
all the same, 0.5-1 km is the normal distance for a land laser at the moment and the target will be only small UAVs that do not need 100 quatt lasers.
but although it’s still interesting, what kind of power will it have, and what will it work from?
If from accumulators, then damn it, they need a lot and they have a working life of only 3 years.
and if from the generator, damn it, in general, snipers and stuff will be more efficient, cheaper and faster.

[Chertt]

Quote: maxim947

The topic is very good and necessary.

Interesting opinion, but strange. There are hundreds of publications confirmed by experimental tests that the topic of the combat use of a laser is unpromising (I don’t want to repeat the argument, look. It’s not difficult)

[maxim947]

Given that we are talking about small UAVs, it is technically possible, because the task is not to burn through the object through, but to disable it.

[Uryukc]

The laser is an effective way to burn dough, the Americans have more than once verified, and by the way, too. Instead of this shit, it would be better to buy more modern equipment.

[210ox]

Yes, here's the deadline .. Although most likely there is already an operating time. And for four months ... We now do not have Lavrenty Pavlovich .. Unfortunately ..

Quote: maxim947

The topic is very good and necessary, but you can’t think of anything worthwhile for that kind of money and SUCH time, in this case you won’t do any good research. The selection of cooperation and the conclusion of agreements with them takes only six months, and then if in a hurry. If only there are no ready-made developments.

[BAI]

SUCH timelines can not imagine anything

And who said that work will be conducted from scratch? And the price is most likely adjusted to a specific result. And if we take into account that the laser is precisely liquid, not gas and solid-state, and the work to determine the best option is not needed, we can say with a 99% probability that there is an attempt to sell the finished result, most likely for the second time.
The laser complex for the destruction of optics (I forgot how it was called) weighs 48 kg, packing - 2 packs was withdrawn from service a long time ago. Really broke the lenses of binoculars. So to damage the optics of a UAV is not a problem.

[hydrox]

Development of combat LC was carried out since the 70s (in 85 I saw pine trees cut by a liquid laser), but then the topic was “not asked,” and burning some kind of fluorine-containing crap in oxygen is an unsafe process.
Now the times are different ...

[K-50]

500-1000 meters

Something is a little distance. You can finish off such a rifle and it will come out much cheaper. It is necessary to increase it at least every 10 times.

[Chertt]

Quote: K-50

It is necessary to increase it at least every 10 times.

In order to burn a titanium plate with a laser from a distance of 5-10 km, it is necessary to have perfect weather and power of 3 Bratsk HPPs

[insular]

Quote: K-50

It is necessary to increase it at least every 10 times.

Just one word - "Dispersion"puts an end to atmospheric beam weapons (including lasers).

[dvina71]

Dispersion? And what does it look like for a monochrome beam?

[insular]

Quote: dvina71

Dispersion? And what does it look like for a monochrome beam?

Huygens-Fresnel principle.
Everything that is true for the separation of the phase velocities of linear waves depending on their frequency of the multichromatic flow is also true for monochromatic.
The pure manifestation of the wave nature of light ... Scattering of a ray - this is it.

[HEATHER]

If they’re “planning,” then they’ve already cooked up. “I know you.” (Dunno on the Moon.)

[Gale]

yeah .. like a storm, zircon, status 6 and so on, all this has long been there ... it’s just that MO is modest, doesn’t want to injure the adversary without any analogues in the world

[NEXUS]

Quote: VERESK

If they’re “planning,” then they’ve already cooked up. “I know you.” (Dunno on the Moon.)

You tell BZHRD to Barguzin ...

[shans2]

make a joke about SKIF, a sofa hater

[NEXUS]

Quote: shans2

make a joke about SKIF, a sofa hater

But I’m not joking, but I’m directly speaking. You’ll tell us about the power of our fleet and about Status-6, the wise guy.

[Polite Moose]

Quote: VERESK

If they’re “planning,” then they’ve already cooked up. “I know you.” (Dunno on the Moon.)

Exactly, the amount is not round. It seems that they did not bargain for a long time and converged at 23,5.

[tchoni]

With such tender prices, there will be another 100 years without a laser.

[Herculesic]

Liquid, maybe a liquid laser? ?? The correct name is "gas-dynamic laser", the only version of a combat laser that can really be created! Cons - overweight, low efficiency, takes a long time to charge, so a partotive nuclear reactor should be included in the complex.

[AVA77]

A fluid laser is one whose fluid is the working fluid. Young Technician 1971-08, page 53

[Herculesic]

And to bring a solid body to a liquid state is not fate? ?? Or are you directly in the active zone, where, in theory, just the heating of the working substance occurs, and bringing it to the state of a liquid, you simply suggest pouring liquid? ??

[AVA77]

yes pour. Young technician 1971-08, page 53

[Herculesic]

Warm up, and maintain the temperature, also on the advice of a young technician wake up?

[insular]

Quote: Herkulesich

Reheat, and maintain temperature

Yes, it is not necessary to warm up, but to cool it as it were. Especially with large generator capacities.
That’s who, what else he understood, and all the same there, to be clever ...

If at least a little in the subject, then you will understand.
But the difference between the manifested properties of amorphous solids and liquids ... This is generally a school course in physics

[ASG7]

I just can’t understand why to shoot down the BPA with a laser, if it is possible to quickly and efficiently make an EM pulse (than they are now knocking down). And in conditions of sand storms, the laser will not shoot further than 1 cm.

[Gonchar]

Quote: ASG7

And in conditions of sand storms, the laser will not shoot further than 1 cm.

Here, and even if it is snowing? or rain, and there, foil suits will be put on drones.

[Antidote]

The EM pulse is very non-selective. All of these electronic warfare machines have a lot of side effects, so as one of the channels in the complex is quite suitable, and the fact that the competition with such tight deadlines and price means that it is written for a specific artist and everything is already there.
Here you can, debate
http://forums.airbase.ru/2006/09/t51207--chem-sbi
vat-lyogkie-bla.html

[BAI]

Recently, there was an article that in Syria an EM system is being tested to combat UAVs. So microwave radiation is harmful to health (and the complex is located near the head) and as a result, the operator can work with it no more than 4 hours a day.

[Sergey-8848]

Kansas Goodwin

[Stoler]

Yeah! Barguzin already created

[prosto_rgb]

In the Russian Federation they plan to create a mobile laser to combat drones

Create at least a stationary one to fight embezzlers
that would be the case!

[Servisinzhener]

It is a very real task to defeat small UAVs at such distances for a mobile complex based on a truck. And here we are talking about the destruction of UAVs in the form of small quadrocopters and similar trifles with plastic cases. For such cheap purposes, a completely good method.

[vadimtt]

Liquid laser? On dyes or what?
Yes, it is extremely cheap, but no efficiency.
Unclear.