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The Kremlin commented on our removal from the Olympics

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The Kremlin press service reacted with a significant delay to the decision of the IOC to remove the Olympic Committee of Russia from the Olympic Games in Pyeongchang, and with it all the athletes who were to go to the stadium under the Russian tricolor. The reaction of the press secretary of the Russian president was more than restrained. From the statement of Dmitry Peskov:
Now, of course, it is necessary to exclude emotions and seriously enough analyze the decisions that the IOC made in relation to our country before making any judgments on this matter. Russia intends to hold contacts with the IOC in connection with the decision to remove 2018 from the Olympics.



One by one, this answer makes it clear that in the highest echelons of power, to the last they believed that common sense and a sense of justice would prevail in the IOC. Neither one nor the other prevailed.

Then the journalists asked Peskov for his opinion on the need to punish the responsible Russian officials for the situation. According to Peskov, he cannot answer this question now. At the same time, the head of the Kremlin press service said that "this topic cannot be of primary importance."

The Kremlin commented on our removal from the Olympics


Sands:
I can say one thing: this topic can not be paramount. The primary issue is the protection of the interests of our Russian athletes. To protect their interests, we must fully concentrate all their efforts in the first place, and consider everything else in the second.


Is it too late to concentrate efforts? And where are the concentrated efforts to respond to the dismissal of Russian Paralympians from the 2016 Games?
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  1. newcomer
    newcomer 6 December 2017 15: 38 New
    10
    more than restrained. diplomatically. interestingly did he express the opinion of the Supreme, or is this the seed before the statement of the Supreme?
    1. dorz
      dorz 6 December 2017 15: 41 New
      43
      we must fully concentrate all our efforts in the first place, and consider everything else in the second

      It’s not necessary to breed demagogy, but to boycott the 2024 Olympiad. In Los Angeles.
      1. Logall
        Logall 6 December 2017 15: 42 New
        36
        It is necessary to act targeted:
        Take measures in relation to those persons who contributed or made this decision!
        To make it clear to everyone that no attacks against the Russian Federation will go unpunished!
        1. 117 factory
          117 factory 6 December 2017 15: 50 New
          15
          But do not you think, Dear Logall, that it’s too late to drink Borjomi ..?
          1. Solomon Kane
            Solomon Kane 6 December 2017 15: 53 New
            13
            it's too late to drink Borjomi.

            ..and what is exhausted?
          2. Mar.Tirah
            Mar.Tirah 6 December 2017 15: 54 New
            54
            Katz offers to surrender. Offering this?
            1. Dashout
              Dashout 6 December 2017 17: 26 New
              19
              Quote: Mar. Tira
              Katz offers to surrender.

              Boycott this Olympiad! Do not listen to advisers about the performance of our athletes under the white flag. Go - it means admitting guilt !!!
              Which of the athletes wants to go to the Olympics - tailwind for your money!
              1. Mar.Tirah
                Mar.Tirah 6 December 2017 17: 29 New
                0
                And they want to do it. Here it will be clear who will pay the cruise to them. From what sources. The payoff will definitely not pay, greedy! Only on provocation.
              2. gladcu2
                gladcu2 6 December 2017 18: 44 New
                +3
                What does it mean to admit guilt?

                Athletes at the Olympics do not speak for themselves, but for the country.

                Performing under a neutral flag is to betray the country.

                What do you think?
                1. akribos
                  akribos 6 December 2017 20: 10 New
                  +3
                  They carry water to the OFFICIAL! The enemies of Russia, seek to isolate our country and humiliate. In Soviet times, athletes and teams of the USSR were constantly condemned. Therefore, we had to be three heads ahead of our competitors, so that the most biased judges were forced to give us first place. Therefore, the athletes and the main management from sports of the USSR, were at the highest professional level. They were ready for all kinds of law enforcement.
                  Now what do we have? They appointed Rodchenko, to whom there were so many questions and claims in the flesh before the criminal, to the key post. Someone is responsible for personnel in our country, from min.sport? Unclear.
                  We blame the fact that someone uses drugs and they have medical certificates and official permits. This, our sports leaders, has never been forbidden to do. Why use Mildronate in secret? This is essentially a children's candy, but there are rules and regulations.
                  It’s just not clear, except that it would be possible to divide the contracts for the construction of sports infrastructure facilities. Are sports managers capable of anything? Before the Olympics, Putin had to personally take control and solve issues with contractors, throw out snickers. Why then the ministries, if they just sit there, eat fat,
                  Now, some say, athletes need not to go, not to disgrace.
                  This is fundamentally wrong! It must be shown that we are not broken, not isolated, that we are strong and spit in their vile faces! We must go and win !!! Guys, athletes should not be responsible for someone else's not finalizing and someone else's not professionalism. Guys, they laid down their lives and health for the sake of sports and for the country, and even the youth are equal to them, look at the victories of our athletes and leave the gateway, sign up in the section. We, as fans and citizens, need to understand this and support our heroes because a very difficult fate fell on them. It would be great if as many fans from Russia as possible came to Korea with our flags, banners and banners, that it would not be possible to ignore them in the media of the West, so that we would eclipse everyone with our patriotism, because no one forbade us to go under our FLAG! GLORY TO OUR ATHLETES !!!!
                  1. sir_obs
                    sir_obs 6 December 2017 21: 06 New
                    +2
                    Yes, they have already killed everyone who showed something there, the rest will not show any results. And then they will say that you see, without doping they can’t do anything.
                  2. nik-karata
                    nik-karata 7 December 2017 10: 05 New
                    +1
                    akribos Yesterday, 20:10
                    Therefore, athletes and most importantly management from sports of the USSR, etc.

                    Sorry, but the country of managers was invented and implemented by Mr. Putin V.V. In Soviet times, it was an abusive word (here - a joke). USSR it was a country of progressive thought and engineering genius! hi
                  3. Said
                    Said 8 December 2017 15: 24 New
                    0
                    What does Mutko have to do with it? It will be in its place but at least Lavrov or Shoigu. This does not change anything. We are being made for something else and not even for Crimea. All lamentations regarding sports leadership are an ostrich pose. Let's be honest to the end. We dared to break the foundation of a new international system built by our partners, where there is no place for truth or decency.
            2. serriy
              serriy 6 December 2017 19: 09 New
              +9
              The performance of the country's athletes under a white rag, if this happens, will be symbolic - the country is being erased from the world map. Government liberals (Dvorkovich) consider this normal.

              It’s normal for them to forget our victories.
              1. Moore
                Moore 7 December 2017 04: 21 New
                +3
                For me alone, does this forever cunningly grinning fox muzzle herald the First cause disgust?
                From the last:
                - do not touch the “one-dead-man” from Novy Urengoy, it is small and thoughtless, and you are all exalted barbarians who poison our future;
                - The topic of responsibility of officials for spitting in the face of Russia cannot be paramount.
                Then Mikhail Shakhnazarov (the one who is the “Estonian poet”) is right: if the bureaucrat can work without a head and conscience, why can't one speak without a flag and an anthem?
          3. Logall
            Logall 6 December 2017 15: 55 New
            +9
            It's time! Show now, this will be a foundation for the future ...
            No, well, you can boycott the next Olympics, play along with the Americans! They achieve this ...
            1. DMB_95
              DMB_95 6 December 2017 16: 35 New
              15
              Quote: Logall

              No, well, you can boycott the next Olympics, play along with the Americans! They achieve this ...

              It is necessary to boycott any international events where they will humiliate our Motherland. And let us never see medals at all than to look at rewarding our athletes crying with shame under a white rag instead of our Flag, and to some music instead of our Anthem.
          4. NIKNN
            NIKNN 6 December 2017 16: 01 New
            13
            Quote: Plant 117
            But do not you think, Dear Logall, that it’s too late to drink Borjomi ..?

            I don’t know, our specialists didn’t immediately remove this defector, how did he start to stir up the water? Or they are waiting for the witness protection program regarding it to be closed, so then it makes no sense. Before the Olympics, he must be stolen from an allegedly neighboring country and let the world scream like he is ... a bad slanderer ... It’s clear that they would shut up this, find another Jehovah’s witness ... to dinner ...
            1. IGOR GORDEEV
              IGOR GORDEEV 6 December 2017 16: 18 New
              +2
              Quote: NIKNN
              I don’t know, our specialists didn’t immediately remove this defector, how did he start to stir up the water?

              Americans can still remove it themselves, but of course they will blame ... Sami knows whom.
              1. NIKNN
                NIKNN 6 December 2017 17: 19 New
                +2
                Quote: IGOR GORDEEV
                Americans can still remove it themselves, but of course they will blame ... Sami knows whom.

                Of course they’ll remove it, and this is why it is necessary to steal the freak in order to complicate the states (it is understood, of course, that the states are not to blame, it's all the IOC and WADA) to get out of the situation ...
          5. 210ox
            210ox 6 December 2017 16: 11 New
            10
            It’s never too late to drink water. Late to do nothing and pretend that nothing happened ..
            Quote: Plant 117
            But do not you think, Dear Logall, that it’s too late to drink Borjomi ..?
            1. Stas157
              Stas157 6 December 2017 16: 41 New
              +9
              Quote: 210ox
              It’s never too late to drink water. Late to do nothing and pretend that nothing happened ..

              And what do you think should be done now? I don’t see anything.
              Sands:
              I can say one thing: this topic can not be paramount. The primary issue is the protection of the interests of our Russian athletes. To protect their interests, we must fully concentrate all their efforts in the first place, and consider everything else in the second.

              How did Peskov get together to protect the interests of athletes? The thing is done already. The train left! You need to do everything in time, and not to wave your fists after the fight.
              If it’s too late to do something to protect the interests of athletes, then there is still no way to protect the honor of the country. There’s no need to apologize to anyone, and stuff up nowhere, let alone pay 15 million (thereby signing their guilt). We must calmly refuse to participate in the shameful role that three Germans from the IOC impose on us. And let them do anything! They threaten the next olympiad or deprivation of the football championship, this should not be important.
          6. igor.borov775
            igor.borov775 6 December 2017 16: 32 New
            +9
            Hello !! .. You are absolutely right. It did not start yesterday and Asya fuss shows the absolute inertia of all branch authorities. More like a lack of will. And you need to start with clear sports laws. And not today's pulp. Consider the sports federation and the state regulations are necessary .. I will not be surprised that considerable amounts are dumped in all international sports organizations, but without a decisive vote. Like the CCP in Wada. And nothing threatens our officials, they say we didn’t decide and are not to blame. I heard Mudko saying that at 6as all the documents are there and there’s no one to give birth to. A lovely position is constantly poking us, and we are all waiting for a break. Vain expectations. The PDA is already fed up with the reaction of the PDA turtles afraid to offend someone. And our knees are not afraid. That is the difference. But it still hurts us when everything happens so slowly. Constantly trying to stick a complex of guilt, and the authorities are never in a hurry to intervene.
        2. Vladimir16
          Vladimir16 6 December 2017 15: 51 New
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          Bach, bastard, applauded in Sochi. Now blames. Prostitute.
          It is necessary to answer asymmetrically - Donetsk and Lugansk regions under the complete control of the DPR and LPR within the administrative borders.
          1. your1970
            your1970 6 December 2017 16: 48 New
            +3
            Quote: Vladimir16
            It is necessary to answer asymmetrically - Donetsk and Lugansk regions under the complete control of the DPR and LPR within the administrative borders.
            -Let's better join Australia-she more fool fool fool
            1. BLOND
              BLOND 6 December 2017 17: 06 New
              +6
              Quote: your1970
              Quote: Vladimir16
              It is necessary to answer asymmetrically - Donetsk and Lugansk regions under the complete control of the DPR and LPR within the administrative borders.
              -Let's better join Australia-she more fool fool fool

              In Australia, the Russian Federation is unlikely to support, and in the Donbass one of the lines of defense of the Russian Federation!
            2. Yuyuka
              Yuyuka 6 December 2017 17: 16 New
              +1
              let's better join Australia - she is more fool fool fool

              I understand this is your proposal to yourself? repeat along with the answer - fool fool fool

              it's nice to watch a conversation between two smart interlocutors wassat
              1. your1970
                your1970 6 December 2017 19: 19 New
                +1
                Ie proposal to start a war with Ukraine - do you think it is normal?
                Or are the remaining parts of the regions treading on the hoof with their hooves - how do they want in LDNR ?? they kill VSUshnikov from around the corner, the trains are derailed, the Terrbatans are hanged in public? NO ??
                Then, the remaining parts of the regions can be attached to the LNR only by entering the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, and this is a war ...
                And then why the heck do we have the bits of two regions that didn’t fall into LDNR?
                Quote: Yuyuka
                it's nice to watch a conversation between two smart interlocutors
                - I'd rather talk to myself then - than to look at screams like:
                Quote: Vladimir16
                It is necessary to answer asymmetrically - Donetsk and Lugansk regions under the complete control of the DPR and LPR within the administrative borders.
                1. Antares
                  Antares 7 December 2017 00: 26 New
                  +1
                  Quote: your1970
                  And then why the heck do we have the bits of two regions that didn’t fall into LDNR?

                  purely for reference-- "bits" are 2/3 of the territory of the regions. This ORDIL is just 1/3 of the area.
                  1. your1970
                    your1970 7 December 2017 09: 58 New
                    0
                    Quote: Antares
                    Quote: your1970
                    And then why the heck do we have the bits of two regions that didn’t fall into LDNR?

                    purely for reference-- "bits" are 2/3 of the territory of the regions. This ORDIL is just 1/3 of the area.
                    - These bits are relevant only for country 404 / LDNR. Only 2/3 regions can fight.
                    If Russia will declare war on Ukraine and will send his troops at least a meter deep into the territories - it will be necessary to stop (and you can !!) not earlier than in Lviv.
            3. Gennady Fyodorov
              Gennady Fyodorov 6 December 2017 18: 02 New
              +1
              Syria! Syria needs to be joined "In vain did they bomb so much!
        3. Solomon Kane
          Solomon Kane 6 December 2017 15: 51 New
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          I will not be surprised that our delegation, headed by Medvedev, will go to the opening .....
          Then, the real Arctic fox will really come !!!!
          Sanya, my respect !!! hi
          1. 117 factory
            117 factory 6 December 2017 15: 54 New
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            I will not be surprised that our delegation, headed by Medvedev, will go to the opening .....
            Then, the real Arctic fox will really come !!!!
            Let me answer you with your own words, why are you exhausted?
            1. Solomon Kane
              Solomon Kane 6 December 2017 16: 10 New
              +7
              Who! Arctic fox? Not ... he just sighed .....
              1. stas
                stas 6 December 2017 16: 36 New
                11
                If the Tsar caves in, he will lose more than he will win.
                The prestige of Russia is higher than neutral medals.
                There comes a Moment of Truth or the King will say we accept the battle, or - we surrender for the sake of medals.
                Let's see who the patriot is, or the soldier who causes fire on himself so as not to surrender, or the gold medal Beckons us.
                1. Hlavaty
                  Hlavaty 6 December 2017 16: 43 New
                  +3
                  From this answer alone, it becomes clear that in the highest echelons of power, to the very last, they really believed that common sense and a sense of justice would prevail in the IOC.

                  From this answer alone, it becomes clear that the Tsar does not know what to do with it. I let things go by themselves, but it flowed in the wrong direction. And now what i can do? belay repeat recourse recourse request sad
                2. tomket
                  tomket 6 December 2017 18: 19 New
                  +1
                  Quote: stas
                  There comes a Moment of Truth or the King will say we accept the battle, or - we surrender for the sake of medals.
                  Let's see who the patriot is, or the soldier who causes fire on himself so as not to surrender, or the gold medal Beckons us.

                  Well, there are not medals, but international law, democratic values, a desire to like it, but let's agree ..... If such a song starts, then ..... I don’t even know who to vote for ....
            2. Lexus
              Lexus 6 December 2017 16: 11 New
              +6
              I am joining! The Comforter Luke (Dog) once again proposed to abstain when it was too late, because it flowed down my legs ...
          2. PFT
            PFT 6 December 2017 16: 08 New
            +2
            This one can go.
        4. captain
          captain 6 December 2017 16: 04 New
          10
          Quote: Logall
          It is necessary to act targeted:
          Take measures in relation to those persons who contributed or made this decision!
          To make it clear to everyone that no attacks against the Russian Federation will go unpunished!

          First of all, it is necessary to dismiss all officials who allowed this situation. None of our organizations appealed to the court. None of the officials resigned due to the doping scandal. Radchenkova rushed to prosecute for supplying athletes with doping after his speech. Where have you been before? Waited for the whole West to start yelling? Mutku generally need to be fired from the civil service, without the right to recovery. Zhukov should be asked for the absence of Russian representatives in the IOC. And everything else is hysterical. Athletes let them go, they will suddenly bring medals, it’s still nice.
          1. Sergey-8848
            Sergey-8848 6 December 2017 16: 11 New
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            The medals of a neutral athlete are his medals. Let everyone who wants to go. But Russian participation should be ruled out. OI without Russia is a miserable cartoon under an umbrella of rockets.
          2. Stas157
            Stas157 6 December 2017 16: 48 New
            +7
            Quote: captain
            First of all, it is necessary to dismiss all officials who allowed this situation. None of our organizations appealed to the court. None of the officials resigned due to the doping scandal.

            The main official who allowed this situation to increase went. I hate this porcupine!
        5. 210ox
          210ox 6 December 2017 16: 09 New
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          Firstly, financially. Secondly, politically. Before the Olympics in Helsinki, ours did not participate (USSR athletes) while the sport developed. Thirdly, the finances (which go to the IOC) should be directed to the development of sports in the country. These actions are at least a dozen. finally, we are waiting for the opinion of our Glavnoy. Or the main thing for him is the election? Not even an opinion, but an action. But the same Andropov or Chernenko were not in public, but their reaction and the Politburo were immediate. I mean 1984.
          Quote: Logall
          It is necessary to act targeted:
          Take measures in relation to those persons who contributed or made this decision!
          To make it clear to everyone that no attacks against the Russian Federation will go unpunished!
          1. Logall
            Logall 6 December 2017 16: 18 New
            10
            Dim, I would add - until the liquidation! Tough - yes! Hard? - no! They break the athletes of life ...
            1. your1970
              your1970 6 December 2017 16: 51 New
              +1
              Quote: Logall
              Dim, I would add - until the liquidation! Tough - yes! Hard? - no! They break the athletes of life ...
              - offers "To bang !!" © DMB - so that no one has ever removed anyone from anything ??
          2. aleks26
            aleks26 6 December 2017 19: 06 New
            +1
            Quote: 210ox
            Before the Olympics in Helsinki, ours did not participate (athletes of the USSR) while the sport was developing. Thirdly, the finances (which go to the IOC) should be directed to the development of sports in the country.

            In the hole. Side of the Olympics. Sport must be massively developed domestically. More open LSS. And do not spend money on "representative" sports for units.
      2. andrej-shironov
        andrej-shironov 6 December 2017 15: 55 New
        +5
        smile First you need to change power through elections. This will not be done; everything else simply will not be.
        1. GRF
          GRF 6 December 2017 16: 15 New
          +3
          Quote: andrej-shironov
          smile First you need to change power through elections. This will not be done; everything else simply will not be.

          Power should be only one - not replaceable power of the people. But is it necessary? To the people? Go to City Hall \ Duma and approve the proposed
          MPs options for solving a particular problem, which, without fail, the executive branch will have to execute?
          Hardly. Therefore, do not call others, comers come who will rule you even more with pleasure ...
          1. andrej-shironov
            andrej-shironov 6 December 2017 16: 17 New
            +3
            smile Sit on the priest evenly and flow around?
            1. GRF
              GRF 6 December 2017 16: 45 New
              0
              Quote: andrej-shironov
              smile Sit on the priest evenly and flow around?

              And some after a shift in the heavenly hundred, see wiped run)
              We must demand the expansion of our rights and responsibilities in making decisions in the development of the country, and not wait for some kind of Benefactor who will come and bring paradise ...
              And start with the local authorities ...
          2. aleks26
            aleks26 6 December 2017 19: 08 New
            0
            Quote: GRF
            Therefore, do not call others, comers come who will rule you even more with pleasure ...

            Yeah. The list of those who wish is already there. Announce?
        2. vovanpain
          vovanpain 6 December 2017 16: 55 New
          +5
          Quote: andrej-shironov
          First you need to change power through elections. This will not be done, everything else will simply not be

          First, you still need to find a candidate, Navalny and Sobchak and comrades please do not involve, it will be even worse.
      3. Deck
        Deck 6 December 2017 15: 55 New
        +2
        Well, you will boycott it easily: drink less beer in front of the TV set. But the athlete whose Olympics is the result of his life. Sweat and blood. Injuries. Which was set up or not protected by sports bureaucrats.
        1. Sasha_Sar
          Sasha_Sar 6 December 2017 16: 17 New
          +7
          “The most precious thing in man is life. It is given to him once, and it is necessary to live it in such a way that there is no excruciatingly embarrassing shame for the years spent aimlessly, that there is no shame for the petty and petty past, and that, dying, he can say: all life and all powers are given to the most important thing in the world: the struggle for the liberation of mankind. And we must hurry to live. After all, an absurd illness or some tragic accident can interrupt it. ("How Steel Was Tempered" by Pashka Korchagin). In the 41st there was the “sea of ​​betrayal” and inaction of “high ranks”, so that you had to raise your hands and surrender to the mercy of those who “did not want to fight”?
        2. 210ox
          210ox 6 December 2017 16: 20 New
          +2
          And here I’m thinking this ... Of course I don’t know the whole legal component. But why don't our athletes join Belarusians for example .. Let them not fly under the Russian flag.
          Quote: Deck
          Well, you will boycott it easily: drink less beer in front of the TV set. But the athlete whose Olympics is the result of his life. Sweat and blood. Injuries. Which was set up or not protected by sports bureaucrats.
          1. SOF
            SOF 6 December 2017 16: 43 New
            +1
            Quote: 210ox
            But why don't our athletes join Belarusians for example .. Let them not fly under the Russian flag

            ... this is not possible, because there are quotas for certain sports. It is unlikely that Belarusians will want to "share" their places.
          2. Deck
            Deck 6 December 2017 16: 57 New
            +2
            Must fly under the American flag! The medals will still be deprived, but then there will be a reason for joy laughing
            1. Yuyuka
              Yuyuka 6 December 2017 17: 20 New
              +1
              Quote: Deck
              Must fly under the American flag! The medals will still be deprived, but then there will be a reason for joy laughing


              a good offer was under the Soviet flag winked
          3. Hlavaty
            Hlavaty 6 December 2017 16: 59 New
            +6
            Quote: 210ox
            But why not our athletes join Belarusians for example .. Let them not fly under the Russian flag.

            Let be. BUT it would be logical if before that they returned to Russia all the money spent on them. Given inflation and lost profits. And then let them even come out under the pirate flag.
            1. Deck
              Deck 6 December 2017 17: 06 New
              0
              And the state returned them money from advertising, tourists and the sale of airtime wink
              1. Hlavaty
                Hlavaty 6 December 2017 17: 34 New
                +1
                Quote: Deck
                And the state returned them money from advertising, tourists and the sale of airtime

                Should it be? How is it written there in the contract?
                1. Deck
                  Deck 6 December 2017 20: 45 New
                  0
                  It doesn’t matter what is in the contract. The main thing is logical, on the principle of reciprocity
        3. Solomon Kane
          Solomon Kane 6 December 2017 16: 24 New
          11
          Good! Tomorrow he will perform under the white flag, receive a medal, congratulations .....
          And the day after tomorrow, dudes from the IOC will come and say that they say that a man is already nice, there’s a speck on your test tube, maybe a fly has spoiled it, or maybe it's you ... Give us the medal .....
          Well? Here the country does not intervene, he himself agreed to go, to speak on his own, and now he’s got a blow himself ...
        4. ARES623
          ARES623 6 December 2017 16: 35 New
          16
          Quote: Deck
          But the athlete whose Olympics is the result of his life. Sweat and blood. Injuries.

          And also money, fame, honor and respect of advertisers .... What kind of snot? A policeman risks his life for someone for a salary and a mortgage in half his life. And no one promises him an X-3 for the solved crime ... How many of them are these “poor” athletes capable of not only “participation”? 100 will be? But they spit in the face of 140 million ... And you imagine the "bureaucrat" and the volume of what he did? You see very well that the rules of this sporting fuss are not written in Russia. And if you are seven spans in the forehead, you still will not win against a sharpie. That sports arbitration, that the IOC, that WADA - all three quarters of the budget are financed from the United States. In whose favor will their decisions be suggested? And here you are - "officials have not defended" ... "Mutko with Zhukov on the lantern." Ask yourself, could you? It is time to understand that we, in fact, are the only ones who are resisting the Anglo-Saxon world, and we do not have allies, and will not. The fact that you, for each of the USA + EU countries, demand a change in the country's leadership is the main goal of all these insinuations. Olympics and championships, air shows, Ukraine and Syria with the DPRK, the confrontation over pipes and flows are all links in one chain, manifestations of the very hybrid war between us and the collective West. The purpose of all these actions (immediate) is “I doubt that I will vote for GDP” (from Monos), “First you need to change the power” (from andrej-shironov). Now think, for whom are you? The betrayal of thoughtlessness at the end is no different from intentional.
          1. Airman
            Airman 6 December 2017 17: 02 New
            +3
            I’ll quote an excerpt from the comments on VO, I don’t remember which article. With the permission of the author, if he finds out his lines: "
            ... do you know who heads the commission for the selection / appointment of members of the Olympic IOC? do not know?..)))
            the most important who appoints the controllers themselves in the IOC is Anna Elizabeth Alice Louise (Princess of Great Britain), the only daughter of Queen Elizabeth ... cool?
            it turns out that the reigning family controls:
            1. world politics (Elizabeth is the queen of Bilderberg)
            2. world economy (the son of the queen is the head of the Island Club, which lends to the states)
            3. world sport (daughter of Queen Elizabeth)
            someone else continues to think that the British monarch means nothing in the world ... ???
            =========================
            who drives in world sport? (WADA)
            Richard McLaren (born Richard 1945) is a Canadian lawyer from the University of Western Ontario, a solicitor and barrister in the Upper Canada Law Society, head of the WADA commission to investigate allegations of doping fraud at the 2014 Olympics in Sochi (May 20, 2016 years) [1], the author of the McLaren report, in which the FSB of Russia blamed for the use of doping ...
            while in Canada there is no president, there is a prime minister appointed by the Queen of Britain ... full ...
            that is, Canada is part of Britain and the queen there is the most important solver and politician ...)))
            and it means that London is headed by WADA ... "... This is so ... on the subject of confrontation between the collective West and Russia.
          2. Deck
            Deck 6 December 2017 17: 03 New
            0
            I am glad that you, together with the police with a mortgage, are opposing the Anglo-Saxons to traitors to the athletes.
            Now think, for whom are you?

            If the Anglo-Saxons are villains, then I am for the Celts with the Welsh.
            1. ARES623
              ARES623 6 December 2017 19: 21 New
              0
              Quote: Deck
              If the Anglo-Saxons are villains, then I am for the Celts with the Welsh.

              Those under the flag that you have, usually for the Russians. It would be nice for you to decide on cowards and a cross.
              1. Deck
                Deck 6 December 2017 20: 13 New
                0
                People with the Soviet flag were internationalists and communists. And nationality is mainly of interest to the Nazis
                1. ARES623
                  ARES623 6 December 2017 21: 11 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Deck
                  People with the Soviet flag were internationalists and communists. And nationality is mainly of interest to the Nazis

                  People under the Soviet flag fought for their country, and in addition, they caught fellow citizens who "were for foreign countries" and hung them (some were shot) laughing
                  1. Deck
                    Deck 6 December 2017 22: 29 New
                    0
                    If suddenly you are not up to date, we fought for the peoples of other countries. Well, there are all sorts of Poland, Czechoslovakia, Bulgaria, Afghanistan. Some truth maliciously slander that we fought for our country and that they accidentally entered their territory, that we occupied them, but that’s what the enemies say. It’s not for nothing that our soldiers have monuments there,
                    1. ARES623
                      ARES623 6 December 2017 22: 47 New
                      0
                      Quote: Deck
                      If suddenly you are not up to date, we fought for the peoples of other countries.

                      Scots living in the UK - Celts, Valis, also a Celtic people living in Wales (UK). So you, however, are the protector of the English crown? And Great Britain is our enemy, the eternal enemy. Who are you going to protect her from? I think you won’t be erected a monument in the island .... Yes, buy a globe ...
                      1. Deck
                        Deck 7 December 2017 07: 53 New
                        0
                        Figs to you; according to VO, our enemies are mythical Anglo-Saxons (whatever that means). But the Welsh are not. And the Celts are not. Why do I need a globe if there is a VO with such writers laughing
          3. passerby5
            passerby5 6 December 2017 19: 04 New
            0
            + 100500 / who pays the music and orders. trivial just
            1. ARES623
              ARES623 6 December 2017 21: 14 New
              0
              Quote: passerby5
              + 100500 / who pays the music and orders. trivial just

              That is, you do not mind if your spouse for money will sleep with another man? After all, everything is trite simple ?!
        5. Stas157
          Stas157 6 December 2017 16: 54 New
          +9
          Quote: Deck
          But the athlete whose Olympics is the result of his life. Sweat and blood. Injuries.

          For whom it is the result of life, he was allowed to go under the White Flag. This does not concern Russia itself. This is at the discretion of the athlete.
          Quote: siberalt
          Bycot will not ride.

          Why boycott if they themselves deny participation? There is no need for a boycott. And they won’t let anyone go without a boycott. But, they apologize, beg, pay for permission - definitely not necessary.
        6. tomket
          tomket 6 December 2017 18: 24 New
          +2
          Quote: Deck
          Well, you will boycott it easily: drink less beer in front of the TV set. But the athlete whose Olympics is the result of his life. Sweat and blood. Injuries. Which was set up or not protected by sports bureaucrats.

          Well let's reason sensibly. All the same, all this fuss is not against athletes, but against Russia. If athletes have a sense of pride, and they are patriots, then who the hell will go somewhere under a neutral flag. Well, if there are such, then here is an example of conscious co-librationists of our era.
          1. aleks26
            aleks26 6 December 2017 19: 21 New
            0
            Quote: tomket
            Quote: Deck
            Well, you will boycott it easily: drink less beer in front of the TV set. But the athlete whose Olympics is the result of his life. Sweat and blood. Injuries. Which was set up or not protected by sports bureaucrats.

            Well let's reason sensibly. All the same, all this fuss is not against athletes, but against Russia. If athletes have a sense of pride, and they are patriots, then who the hell will go somewhere under a neutral flag. Well, if there are such, then here is an example of conscious co-librationists of our era.

            Well, the Korean will go, he will sneeze at Russia. He was just bought in 11 (citizenship, apartment, loot). Someone will be promised car rides for the trip (it’s great - Russia is flying a white flag, well, there’s already almost global isolation, how much can you try tyndinet) And yes, the country invested not a few grandmothers in athletes so that they would represent her face in sports and now they will enter under a neutral flag, this is a spit in the face of the country. Well, I think we will survive this too.
        7. Glad
          Glad 7 December 2017 00: 43 New
          0
          Yes, yes ... Poor athletes ... Sweat, blood and results of life ... Who would argue. But since such a booze started, let's recall those who graduated from high schools in the early 90s and wanted to work in their specialty, and half of the economy at that time was eating, and flew away to a "country rich in game." I had to retrain as shuttles and handymen. Who defended the interests of these people? What about the military? Remember what ass they were dipped in? Also the years of life, sweat, blood. Who defended them from those who hold power? And now we are full of "working poor." It’s like in Africa or Latin America. They were remembered, but something was not visible. And pensioners, and doctors, and teachers? .. They earn "a little" less athletes. And nothing. “There is no money, but you hold on” ... Who defends the interests of all these people? .. Tovarisch Kruzenshtern, steamboat and man? .. So, let's not talk about “poor athletes”. In fact, the main part of the population as a positive motivation, there was nothing left but the honor of the country. Let’s dip it in the mud too. After all, athletes suffer. Uh ...
        8. Skarpzd
          Skarpzd 7 December 2017 02: 51 New
          0
          there is a hefty guy on the platform (stop), from the window of the car (bus) protrudes the muzzle of a drischa and savagely scribbles a peasant on his bald head. Man - are you serious right now ??? drish - no, I was joking! man - well then another thing ...
          interesting, here - what will come up with the next Olympiad? smear yourself with shit and take part in this form? and again there will be groans: they have devoted their whole lives to sports, a dream, will you have to smear and go? elementary pride where?
      4. siberalt
        siberalt 6 December 2017 15: 58 New
        +3
        Bycot will not ride. After the boycott of the USSR Olympics in 1986, the IOC adopted a provision on the disqualification of a country that announced a 8-year boycott from participating in the Olympic Games. So, the bike is a good “gift” to our sports rivals. Now the main thing is to protect the honor and reputation of our athletes, who were unfairly stripped of their champion titles. And do not confuse the stupidity of our sports officials with patriotism.
        1. Victor N
          Victor N 6 December 2017 16: 21 New
          13
          Sibiralt, you need to take care of the honor and dignity of the country, and not of individual athletes, whose value for the country is very doubtful. It's time to change the attitude of this type of show business.
          1. siberalt
            siberalt 6 December 2017 17: 42 New
            +2
            If a country does not consist of people, then this is not a country at all. request If sport has become a business, then why are hundreds of thousands of officials eating it? If the Olympic movement is a social phenomenon, then why is it under the brutal dictatorship of the state? Is it because it is so sweet to our officials? So it turns out that our state is engaged in dubious business under the guise of patriotism. But business has no homeland by definition!
        2. Berkut752
          Berkut752 6 December 2017 16: 42 New
          +5
          Quote: siberalt
          Bycot will not ride. After the boycott of the USSR Olympics in 1986, the IOC adopted a provision on the disqualification of a country that announced a 8-year boycott from participating in the Olympic Games. So, the bike is a good “gift” to our sports rivals. Now the main thing is to protect the honor and reputation of our athletes, who were unfairly stripped of their champion titles. And do not confuse the stupidity of our sports officials with patriotism.

          Are you ready for the country to pay 15 lyamas of American “rubles” for someone’s ambitions.
          And what will they come up with tomorrow ????????????
          1. siberalt
            siberalt 6 December 2017 17: 51 New
            +3
            Do not make me laugh. We paid some little-known football coach Capollo 32 euro salaries. And nobody was indignant at something, but the whole world was surprised. laughing And the fact that our country regularly pays tribute to the United States on average about $ 100 billion annually, no one asks us. Or, how much the last launch from Vostochny and the 19 satellites that we dropped due to sloppiness cost, so no one will tell us.
        3. Was mammoth
          Was mammoth 6 December 2017 17: 26 New
          +3
          Quote: siberalt
          And do not confuse the stupidity of our sports officials with patriotism.

          What are they stupid? You what?
          Zhukov -13 state awards, 5 of them are orders, Mutko-9 state awards, 4 of them are orders. From how it is, this is the case.
          And, the President of Russia, as always, is "thoughtfully" silent. He has a cunning plan.
          And, does our country need such an Olympics? Yes, also demanding to pay for not admitting to Korea. A disgrace for the country.
          Boycott the boycott is different. So that there is no “good present”, it is enough to hold competitions of our athletes with a shift from the Olympics and present awards there taking into account the results at the Olympics and with the same honors .. Above the Olympic, “gold” and so on. So Olympic gold will depreciate without ours. And financially there are opportunities .. If you want, you can do a lot of things.
          The only question is how many athletes who were supposed to compete under the Russian flag live and train abroad. Are they our athletes?
          So what will be like in Rio. Alas! Someone will perform. Without a flag, without an anthem, without a homeland.
          But, it seems to me, these are just flowers. Berries will be later.
          Quote: Victor N
          Yes, the President should not deal with such issues!

          Right! This is not a royal affair.
          1. siberalt
            siberalt 6 December 2017 18: 02 New
            +1
            If not stupid, then obviously they did everything with intent to disgrace Russia. But who admits this? lol
        4. Yuyuka
          Yuyuka 6 December 2017 17: 27 New
          +2
          Quote: siberalt
          Bycot will not ride. After the boycott of the USSR Olympics in 1986, the IOC adopted a provision on the disqualification of a country that announced a 8-year boycott from participating in the Olympic Games. So, the bike is a good “gift” to our sports rivals. Now the main thing is to protect the honor and reputation of our athletes, who were unfairly stripped of their champion titles. And do not confuse the stupidity of our sports officials with patriotism.


          and they themselves want to spend without us? then? they already say that without Russians this is not the Olympics, and financial losses are big. and why not introduce sanctions against the same companies like Pepsi and others? I don’t think we will die of thirst. Yes, a lot of things can be done asymmetric ... it would be a desire and imagination.
        5. aleks26
          aleks26 6 December 2017 19: 23 New
          +1
          So maybe it's for the good of Russia. More attention will be paid to the development of sports within the country.
        6. Skarpzd
          Skarpzd 7 December 2017 02: 53 New
          0
          do you have confidence that they will let us go to the next olympiad ??? and under what conditions?
      5. Overlock
        Overlock 6 December 2017 16: 16 New
        +2
        in order of information:
        World Athletics Champion Yolanda Chen: Calls for boycott of the Games according to the Olympic Charter may entail the removal of the national team for the next two Olympic cycles. Thus, the official refusal to participate in the competition will allow international functionaries to just as easily, without any doping charges, remove the Russian team from two Olympics.
        1. region58
          region58 6 December 2017 17: 32 New
          +2
          Quote: Overlock
          according to the Olympic Charter may result in suspension

          And what does the Olympic Charter say about non-admission? And can a refusal to appear under a neutral flag be called a boycott?
          1. siberalt
            siberalt 6 December 2017 18: 07 New
            0
            This flag of the Olympic movement, adopted in 1920, is not only "neutral."
          2. Overlock
            Overlock 6 December 2017 18: 25 New
            0
            officially athletes can ride
            IOC President Richard Bach believes that Russia has no reason at all to boycott, saying that since the “clean” athletes seem to be allowed to participate, there’s nothing to complain about.
            1. region58
              region58 6 December 2017 19: 05 New
              0
              Quote: Overlock
              officially athletes can ride

              They can, only as whom? Agree, between the concepts of "Russian team" and "athletes from Russia" - the abyss. I do not know all the legal subtleties, therefore there are questions.
      6. andj61
        andj61 6 December 2017 16: 39 New
        +4
        Quote: dorz
        we must fully concentrate all our efforts in the first place, and consider everything else in the second

        It’s not necessary to breed demagogy, but to boycott the 2024 Olympiad. In Los Angeles.

        And who will benefit from this? And they are striving for this - in general, to remove us from sports!
        If we don’t go, it means that hundreds of “pure” athletes who have chosen sport as their path of life will leave the country. In any case, they will have wasted 4 years of active sports life, which is irreplaceable. Thousands of children will not come to sports at all, the continuity will be lost - this is also an extremely heavy blow to sports. Or do the recipes of this muddy muddy-naturalize foreigners? This, after all, is not solid! Russia is not the USSR, which boycotted the 1984 Olympics in Los Angeles, Russia will not be able to organize something similar to the Goodwill Games - it can be organized, but the leading athletes of the world will not be allowed to arrive. Russia does not have dozens of allies and hundreds of sympathizers around the world. It is not clear to me why our officials, who have committed this chaos, still hold their posts; I don’t get it in my head why some athletes sue the same McLaren, but they don’t have support at the state level. But it is necessary that EVERYONE appeal in the civil courts of Western countries the actions of specific individuals - the same McLaren, this German pseudo-journalist, IOC, etc. In some countries, honor and dignity cases and criminal cases are instituted.
        And our officials tried to come to an agreement. Grandfather Smirnov was attracted - he supposedly as an honorary member of the IOC has connections there. There is a connection - no sense. It is necessary to arrange scandals on any occasion of the use of doping. To raise the results of another commission of the same McLaren from 2001 - then the US Athletics Federation was accused and a conclusion was drawn about the systematic use of doping in this sport. And the result - the US Athletics Federation said that it would take into account the conclusion of the McLaren Commission. No one has been punished! In sports, you need the same offensive position as in politics. And we need other people from the state. And Zhukov, and, especially, Mutko needs to be driven by a filthy broom in general from state authorities and from sports administration - in particular! am
      7. vovanpain
        vovanpain 6 December 2017 16: 51 New
        +7
        Quote: dorz
        and boycott the Olympics in 2024. In Los Angeles.

        First, a colleague needs to boycott the Olympics in 2018 in South Korea, because they do not like losers, even if in 2024, even in 2044, they do not like losers. yes
      8. shark
        shark 6 December 2017 17: 06 New
        +1
        and the snowball rolled ...
      9. garnik
        garnik 6 December 2017 17: 09 New
        +1
        [quoteNot necessary to breed demagogy, but to boycott the 2024 Olympiad. in Los Angeles.] [/ quote]
        What they will be incredibly happy.
      10. Alber
        Alber 6 December 2017 17: 43 New
        +3
        Quote: dorz
        It’s not necessary to breed demagogy, but to boycott the 2024 Olympiad. In Los Angeles.


        Will the majority of ordinary people live up to 24 years with such a government and legislators, and by the way with "industry"?
      11. Skif83
        Skif83 6 December 2017 19: 02 New
        +3
        We are declared war. She's already coming. Can we throw troops into the rear of NATO, which will be told that you are not fighting for Russia, but for the UN !? NONSENS !!! If Russia is a self-respecting country, hold alternative CIS competitions, SCO CSTO, etc. Reward athletes as if they were performing at the Olympics. Announce to the whole world that our results are better, faster, higher, etc. Yes, after this, any Olympic champion will feel inferior. Yes, only due to the different gladness of bureaucrats-bureaucrats who accompany our teams, save enough money to adequately reward athletes! Everything else is CHAT! There will be no soldier or officer of Russia to fight under another flag! In war as in war.
        Where were bureaucrats from sports like Mutko when this story began to be fanned three years ago? Where are the high-profile statements, lawsuits against WADA, the IOC?
        Could someone venture such a shit against the USSR before the hunchback?
        Was ... Ukraine, was it ... was the Olympics, not to mention the economy, education, medicine, Rusnano, falling satellites ...
        What is the following?
        What else needs to happen for GDP to start changing something in the country? So that the fifth column is worn out, and not just declared? So that the last of the canoes and the Germans did not sit in warm cabinets, but fell down the forest with jigsaws?
        What should happen for someone to understand that they CANNOT BE FORGIVENED by Chubais and Co., who immediately threw the whole country? Can not Vasiliev with his "boss" be free?
    2. Monos
      Monos 6 December 2017 15: 43 New
      51
      If there is no sharp and painful reaction for the IOC, I doubt that I will vote for GDP. And, about the athletes ... And, in fact, why protect them from? What do they lose? Medals? Sponsorship contracts? Let's get the whole country for their contracts! They omit the country, and they think: to go, not to go ... Alexander Prokhorenko and Oleg Peshkov had something to lose, and these “athletes" ... What is there to talk about?
      1. Solomon Kane
        Solomon Kane 6 December 2017 15: 46 New
        14
        I can say one thing: this topic cannot be paramount

        And the figs were soaring to him - at home, the wife of figure skating will show how no matter how OCH in pair skating ... wink winked
        1. captain
          captain 6 December 2017 15: 53 New
          +2
          Quote: Solomon Kane
          I can say one thing: this topic cannot be paramount

          And the figs were soaring to him - at home, the wife of figure skating will show how no matter how OCH in pair skating ... wink winked

          And what will your wife show you? No need to envy a beautiful wife.
          1. penal battalion
            penal battalion 6 December 2017 16: 03 New
            16
            And to you, then what care that will show will show ...?
            You did not catch the essence of the whole problem, but you are talking about "envy."
            Solomon is not a press secretary of the president of the country and his "pearls" will remain within the site ...
            But what are they doing? Could solve the problem with the IOC much earlier, much more!
            It was necessary to "bring to the sting" whoever needed, and they spread their pockets ...
            Do you think that during the USSR there were no problems with the IOC, and even what, only in a different way everything was solved without too much dust!
          2. stas
            stas 6 December 2017 16: 48 New
            +5
            If the Tsar is bent, then his rating before the election will not be 86%.
            But it’s better on the shield than under the shield with a medal for jumping to the side from the ski bobsleigh.
        2. Vladimir16
          Vladimir16 6 December 2017 15: 57 New
          +8
          Quote: Monos
          If there is no sharp and painful reaction for the IOC, I doubt that I will vote for GDP.

          Do you seriously think that participation or non-participation in the show called the Olympics is the main criterion in choosing the President of the country?
          Then vote for the woman who wants to give the Crimea to the Nazis. She will definitely promise you that athletes will participate in the Olympic Games. Liberasty will now rash with accusations and promises.
          This is your choice.
          The NHL scored a BOLT at these Olympics. This is so for you to think about ...
          1. Monos
            Monos 6 December 2017 16: 06 New
            14
            Quote: Vladimir16
            Do you seriously think that participation or non-participation in the show called the Olympics is the main criterion in choosing the President of the country?

            Of course not. And not even the spinelessness of some officials. I do not like the lack of emphasis on some issues.
            Then vote for the woman who wants to give the Crimea to the Nazis.

            Vote for this woman. I have the option not to vote at all.
            The NHL scored a BOLT at these Olympics. This is so for you to think about ...

            And our team asks to let them go to the Olympics under a neutral flag. This is for you to think about.
            1. 210ox
              210ox 6 December 2017 16: 27 New
              +5
              But there’s another option .. Export the newsletter. Well, so that no one would get ...
              Quote: Monos
              Quote: Vladimir16
              Do you seriously think that participation or non-participation in the show called the Olympics is the main criterion in choosing the President of the country?

              Of course not. And not even the spinelessness of some officials. I do not like the lack of emphasis on some issues.
              Then vote for the woman who wants to give the Crimea to the Nazis.

              Vote for this woman. I have the option not to vote at all.
              The NHL scored a BOLT at these Olympics. This is so for you to think about ...

              And our team asks to let them go to the Olympics under a neutral flag. This is for you to think about.
            2. Victor N
              Victor N 6 December 2017 16: 29 New
              +1
              Yes, the President should not deal with such issues! So there is too much attention ... All the talk about the importance of sport for raising the country's prestige is a fallacy: under any international negotiations, sports victories are not considered, medals are not recounted.
              1. 210ox
                210ox 6 December 2017 16: 45 New
                +2
                Well, in some countries this post is purely representative. Only not with us. Since the country has manual control.
                Quote: Victor N
                Yes, the President should not deal with such issues! So there is too much attention ... All the talk about the importance of sport for raising the country's prestige is a fallacy: under any international negotiations, sports victories are not considered, medals are not recounted.
              2. Yuyuka
                Yuyuka 6 December 2017 17: 34 New
                +1
                Quote: Victor N
                Yes, the President should not deal with such issues! So there is too much attention ... All the talk about the importance of sport for raising the country's prestige is a fallacy: under any international negotiations, sports victories are not considered, medals are not recounted.


                and if you look differently? - The president speaks and says - “The Olympic movement has discredited itself and requires reorganization. Therefore, our country suspends its participation in the Olympic movement until the Olympic principles are respected. All athletes who wish to participate in this and the following olympiads can do this privately , that is, without state support. hi
            3. SOF
              SOF 6 December 2017 16: 58 New
              0
              Quote: Monos
              . And our team asks to let them go to the Olympics under a neutral flag. This is for you to think about.

              ... well, think about what it is that the “team” of healthy men was about to go to represent Olympic walkers “from Russia”? Everyone, without looking down, should listen to the Olympic music player when lifting a sheet with rainbow bagels. winked
              I now have a fantasy such "horrors" at the hands of the barbarian "Horde" draws that ..... recourse
          2. passerby5
            passerby5 6 December 2017 19: 25 New
            0
            when voting there is another option, vote for ALL !!!)))
        3. peta locksmith
          peta locksmith 6 December 2017 15: 57 New
          +2
          but it’s interesting, what would Piskov say if his wife would not be allowed to appear under the flag of Russia, would they offer to shake a sheet?
      2. Antokha
        Antokha 6 December 2017 15: 46 New
        +3
        And for whom? Would Sobchak and Navalny do the right thing in this situation?
        1. stas
          stas 6 December 2017 15: 50 New
          +7
          Then ignore the election completely.
          1. andrej-shironov
            andrej-shironov 6 December 2017 16: 00 New
            +3
            Stas, I’ve been saying this for a long time!
            1. vovanpain
              vovanpain 6 December 2017 17: 22 New
              +5
              Quote: stas
              Then ignore the election completely.

              Quote: andrej-shironov
              Stas, I’ve been saying this for a long time!

              Quote: andrej-shironov
              First you need to change power through elections.

              Believe yes Of course we believe, since? Through the ELECTION? Or Maidan? laughing By the way, if at least one person comes to the polls and votes, then the elections will be held and the winner will be the one for whom the one single voter voted. Well, how? hi
              1. Stas157
                Stas157 6 December 2017 17: 41 New
                +5
                Quote: vovanpain
                By the way, if at least one person comes to the polls and votes, then the elections will be held and the winner will be the one for whom the one single voter voted. Well, how?

                There will never be such a thing. In Chechnya, again, 98% will turnout for the elections, and everyone will vote for one candidate as one.
                1. vovanpain
                  vovanpain 6 December 2017 18: 20 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Stas157
                  There will never be such a thing. In Chechnya, again, 98% will be at the polls, and everyone will vote for one candidate as one

                  Stanislav you yourself answered the question, then there is the Maidan request But whether he is needed, after all, they will somehow turn into a jumping Ukraine with a civil war, not hunting. Here and a hitch, however. hiI’m better off spoiling the ballot. Although there are only two candidates who have not yet been registered, I’m a doggie and Yushlinsky, I definitely won’t. hi
          2. BARKHAN
            BARKHAN 6 December 2017 16: 32 New
            +4
            Quote: stas
            Then ignore the election completely.

            Personally, I’ll go ... and ruin the newsletter. So that no one could draw for me. But all these collaterals are not my power. Mutko and Zhukov are Putin’s team. Dumb thieves-crooks.
            1. stas
              stas 6 December 2017 16: 59 New
              +3
              Your coming to the polls will only increase turnout. And they can count correctly without people.
              They still can not greatly affect the turnout.
              The tsar with the appearance of less than 50% is no longer the Tsar but the Impostor without the trust of the people.
      3. Sergey-svs
        Sergey-svs 6 December 2017 15: 48 New
        46
        Yes, already do not care for such an Olympics! Russian flying a white flag is not Russian! There is no honor in performing under a neutral rag when they try to wipe their feet about your country. ... yes


        PS Let’s better be quiet, we’ll conscientiously squeeze out Donbass and Odessa! good This will be our highest quality medals! laughing
        1. zoolu350
          zoolu350 6 December 2017 16: 13 New
          +6
          If the IOC needs a white flag, I propose performing under the flag of the USSR Navy; if color is not important, then under the flag of the USSR. And if both flags are banned, then a boycott.
          1. albert
            albert 6 December 2017 16: 19 New
            +1
            Quote: zoolu350
            If the IOC needs a white flag, I suggest flying under the flag of the USSR Navy, if the color is not important, then under the flag of the USSR. And if both flags are banned, then a boycott.

            We are only for !! good
          2. BARKHAN
            BARKHAN 6 December 2017 18: 50 New
            +2
            Quote: zoolu350
            If the IOC needs a white flag

            Those who go to the Olympic Games without the Russian flag should be under such ...
            1. zoolu350
              zoolu350 6 December 2017 20: 12 New
              +2
              Why is the flag of the USSR Navy bad? The owners of the Fed and the IOC kondrashka will start from one of its kind. And the hymn is not badly replaced by the songs "Get up the huge country" and "Cruiser Varangian".
        2. Dead duck
          Dead duck 6 December 2017 16: 31 New
          11
          Quote: Sergey-svs
          Yes, already do not care for such an Olympics! Russian flying a white flag is not Russian!

        3. Stas157
          Stas157 6 December 2017 17: 44 New
          +6
          Quote: Sergey-svs
          Let’s better be quiet, we’ll conscientiously squeeze out Donbass and Odessa! good This will be our highest standard medals!

          And who is stopping this from happening now? The Ukrainian authorities are not there. Lugansk and Donetsk dream about it. The Kremlin just does not want, or is afraid of the West.
      4. Nonna
        Nonna 6 December 2017 15: 53 New
        +9
        Quote: Monos
        If there is no sharp and painful reaction for the IOC, I doubt that I will vote for GDP.


        I’m definitely not going to vote for him. It’s time for him to leave.
        1. Monos
          Monos 6 December 2017 15: 59 New
          15
          Quote: Nonna
          I’m definitely not going to vote for him. It’s time for him to leave.

          It's your problems. I criticize Putin not because he is “too Putin”, but because he is “not enough Putin”.
          1. stas
            stas 6 December 2017 16: 14 New
            +7
            Putin is trying to sit on three chairs, and he wants to give himself and the oligarchs, and what remains for the people.
            As in the movie "Wedding in the Robin", the bandit in the vest shared the loot with another bandit - this is for me, it's all for me, it's for me again, it's not for you again, as a result there was only one female bra with a cap for grandmother.
          2. Solomon Kane
            Solomon Kane 6 December 2017 16: 17 New
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            Vitya! Salute !!! hi
            We need Kvachkov Vladimir Vasilyevich - he alone tried to “clean” the government and started, well done, with Red ...
            1. Monos
              Monos 6 December 2017 16: 25 New
              +7
              Hello, Kostya! hi
              Quote: Solomon Kane
              It is necessary Kvachkova Vladimir Vasilyevich

              The question is complex ... But the fact that now we need people "specific" is clear.
          3. Stas157
            Stas157 6 December 2017 17: 56 New
            +5
            Quote: Monos
            I criticize Putin not because he is “too Putin”, but because he is “not enough Putin”.

            Absolutely dense or what? What is the difference, is it too or not enough? I would suggest a simpler option: suits or does not suit. I’m for Putin, and for his predecessor Yeltsin, I never voted. All the time only for the Communists. But, I am ready to vote for any energetic and honest left-wing person. That which, for the common people, for athletes including, and not for the presumptuous oligarchs. The current 26 years in the Kremlin, but there is no end and edge crisis.
            1. Monos
              Monos 6 December 2017 18: 24 New
              +4
              Quote: Stas157
              The current 26 years are in the Kremlin, but there is no end to the crisis.

              fool "The mind is given to man in order to think, not to hammer nails" (c)
              1. Stas157
                Stas157 6 December 2017 18: 28 New
                +4
                Quote: Monos
                "The mind is given to man in order to think, not to hammer nails" (c)

                Clever! Stop hammering nails?
            2. region58
              region58 6 December 2017 19: 11 New
              +1
              Quote: Stas157
              The current 26 years in the Kremlin

              Quote: Stas157
              ... voted ... All the time only for the Communists

              So they are also 26 years in the Kremlin, some even more ... and?
              1. Stas157
                Stas157 6 December 2017 21: 28 New
                +4
                Quote: region58
                So they are also 26 years in the Kremlin, some even more ... and?

                In power?
        2. BARKHAN
          BARKHAN 6 December 2017 16: 39 New
          +8
          Quote: Nonna
          I’m definitely not going to vote for him. It’s time for him to leave.

          I join in. Especially after the bleeding of the slurred when our flag was lowered over the consulate, and of course the bashfully closed mausoleum on the 100th anniversary of the Great Revolution ... the decision was made. Only that I looked at his speech at a bunch of young "loafers" volunteers ... just pathetic jester. A new Stalin is needed, not a liberal laying.
      5. 210ox
        210ox 6 December 2017 16: 24 New
        +7
        Victor hi I’m completely and completely FOR! If someone is above the interests of the Russian state of mercy, then someone will risk their lives for the country, and for someone, a dream team may lose loot. Things are incommensurable. Although it’s possible, it’ll probably be- loot overpower.
        Quote: Monos
        If there is no sharp and painful reaction for the IOC, I doubt that I will vote for GDP. And, about the athletes ... And, in fact, why protect them from? What do they lose? Medals? Sponsorship contracts? Let's get the whole country for their contracts! They omit the country, and they think: to go, not to go ... Alexander Prokhorenko and Oleg Peshkov had something to lose, and these “athletes" ... What is there to talk about?
        1. Monos
          Monos 6 December 2017 16: 36 New
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          Hello Dmitry! hi
          Quote: 210ox
          I am completely and completely FOR!

          Thank you for your solidarity. This is the normal position of a healthy person.
        2. vovanpain
          vovanpain 6 December 2017 17: 28 New
          +4
          Quote: 210ox
          , and for some people, a dream team with loot may break. Things are incommensurable. Although it’s possible, it’s more likely that it will overpower

          "Well, that’s what happened. We will be allowed to the Olympics, but only in a humiliating status. Without a flag, without a hymn. Our athletes will be impersonal there ... uh ... Like minions? Before the trip, if it takes place, they will say that they love their Motherland that they are patriots, but ... And this can be stumbled upon, but you know, very often we are told from television screens that there is a war against our country. Right now. A hybrid war. It’s going on, few doubt it. And they’re “hitting us” from all weapons, in all directions, and if our country sets up a national team under a neutral flag, it will be a defeat. Probably tactical. But the saddest thing is different. After this trip, all the talk about patriotism, love for It will always be possible to block the homeland with this “but”, like a three-meter fence. How would it be like this: we are patriots, but ... We have been preparing for our whole lives ... We are patriots, but we have a career ... We are patriots, but money doesn’t smell. We patriots, but ... And this "but" can cost a lot to the country. La time, probably, to decide - who are we really? Blah blah blah, or patriots? Without any but. ”Forgive me, athletes. I understand your pain and bitterness, but ... There is a hybrid war. And if it grows into a “hotter” phase? And many will remember you, and think - yes, we love the Motherland, but ... And then everyone can enter anything, at their discretion. And who will have the moral right to say something? What can we then get to? Let's love the Motherland, without this crafty "but"? "

          Salvage will win. request
      6. ALEX_SHTURMAN
        ALEX_SHTURMAN 6 December 2017 16: 39 New
        +4
        You correctly say about the elections, if there is no proper reaction of the authorities, I also think that this will lower Putin's rating. For myself, I can say this: if here Mutko doesn’t suffer, will I vry vote for Putin.
      7. aleks26
        aleks26 6 December 2017 19: 26 New
        0
        Quote: Monos
        If there is no sharp and painful reaction for the IOC, I doubt that I will vote for GDP

        Advise, and for whom then to vote?
        1. Monos
          Monos 6 December 2017 19: 28 New
          +3
          Quote: aleks26
          Advise, and for whom then to vote?

          I don’t feel like voting anymore.
      8. Svist
        Svist 7 December 2017 05: 41 New
        0
        Quote: Monos
        I doubt that I will vote for GDP.

        lol So what? I have never voted for EdRo, but she did not notice this ... request
    3. Alena Frolovna
      Alena Frolovna 6 December 2017 15: 46 New
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      And again blah blah blah ... And silence, and emptiness ...

      And so it was all overgrown with grass in us, and the weeds weren’t just weeds, but they had to be uprooted and burned so that there were no infectious and rotten seeds.
    4. Misha Honest
      Misha Honest 6 December 2017 15: 48 New
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      What the Kremlin thinks is a shame. For them, business is more important. And nothing personal. But the country was dishonored and all our officials do not care. Just a shame
      We now need not Putin - but Stalin!
      1. aleks26
        aleks26 6 December 2017 19: 28 New
        0
        Quote: Misha Honest
        We now need not Putin - but Stalin!

        There is no Stalin, there is Sobchak. Will you take it? Wrap up?
        1. Yuyuka
          Yuyuka 7 December 2017 00: 12 New
          0
          Quote: aleks26
          Quote: Misha Honest
          We now need not Putin - but Stalin!

          There is no Stalin, there is Sobchak. Will you take it? Wrap up?


          I take it! just cut into slices wassat
    5. Black_Vatnik
      Black_Vatnik 6 December 2017 15: 49 New
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      He always answers with restraint and diplomacy. Children live and study with him “there”, and not here ... therefore Peskov should not occupy “diplomacy”
      1. PalBor
        PalBor 6 December 2017 16: 02 New
        +5
        Diplomatic ours
        1. stas
          stas 6 December 2017 16: 15 New
          0
          Such under any power will be afloat.
      2. BARKHAN
        BARKHAN 6 December 2017 16: 51 New
        +7
        Quote: Black_Jacket
        He always answers with restraint and diplomacy. Children live and study with him “there”, and not here ... therefore Peskov should not occupy “diplomacy”

        It's hard to be a patriot ....
        1. Black_Vatnik
          Black_Vatnik 6 December 2017 16: 59 New
          +6
          Now the question is backfill. GDP and nothing to do with?
          1. stas
            stas 6 December 2017 17: 28 New
            +3
            The people know that he is completely. It’s on TV that they want to convince us that 86% is for it.
            He is supported for foreign policy, but not for domestic.

            But now the Tsar has a chance to allow a serious puncture on the outer front, by deflection under the IOC.
            1. Black_Vatnik
              Black_Vatnik 6 December 2017 18: 13 New
              +4
              Everything in Putin is good, except for one. The only bad thing is that he is not Stalin - i.e. cannot (does not want) to restrain his own environment.
          2. aleks26
            aleks26 6 December 2017 19: 33 New
            0
            Quote: Black_Jacket
            Now the question is backfill. GDP and nothing to do with?

            But should he do this? Does the country have much more serious problems? In the end, we do not seem to have a dictatorship. There is a government, there is a thought, so let it think. Or nostalgia for the year 37 tortured someone.
            1. Black_Vatnik
              Black_Vatnik 6 December 2017 20: 13 New
              +2
              To give a slap to your loved one, a lot of time is not necessary. It is enough to give a slap.
    6. Vend
      Vend 6 December 2017 15: 58 New
      +1
      Quote: newbie
      more than restrained. diplomatically. interestingly did he express the opinion of the Supreme, or is this the seed before the statement of the Supreme?

      I’m wondering what negative developments will follow for the IOC? It has been proven more than once that silence is followed by a reaction. Which causes hysteria in the west.
    7. BARKHAN
      BARKHAN 6 December 2017 16: 18 New
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      Quote: newbie
      more than restrained. diplomatically. interestingly did he express the opinion of the Supreme, or is this the seed before the statement of the Supreme?

      We’ll wait for the guarantor to say so, but I’d help the athletes like this ...
    8. Karabin
      Karabin 6 December 2017 16: 39 New
      +6
      Quote: newbie
      or is it the seed before the Supreme statement?

      The Supreme, as usual, dived into the bushes somewhere, and waits for everything to resolve itself somehow. But you can consider his silence very scary for the IOC and the West.
      1. Stas157
        Stas157 6 December 2017 18: 17 New
        +6
        Quote: Karabin
        The Supreme, as usual, dived into the bushes somewhere

        Oh, by the way, no reaction from Putin! What would that mean? Maybe the grandmaster is considering a cunning plan (another checkmate in two moves to the West!)? And, at the same time, presses on the West with his demonstrative silence! Or is he not concerned about the completely dramatic events in Russian sport, and the face of Russia in the international arena? ... Ah, maybe scared of what?
        Two years ago there was a similar situation when Putin had to urgently react somehow. Well, he blurted out foolishly about tomatoes! Now she hiccups, thinks ten times before threatening someone. After all, they’ll laugh ... It’s just scared!
      2. aleks26
        aleks26 6 December 2017 19: 36 New
        0
        Quote: Karabin
        The Supreme, as usual, dived into the bushes somewhere, and waits for everything to resolve itself somehow.

        You suggest, in that way, you just got up in the morning and cut off from your shoulder.
    9. NEXUS
      NEXUS 6 December 2017 16: 52 New
      +6
      Quote: newbie
      more than restrained. diplomatically. interestingly did he express the opinion of the Supreme, or is this the seed before the statement of the Supreme?

      Yes, there will be no answer ... Putin has ended. Amba. Peskov, something unintelligible blew, and Putin was silent, and silent.
      Now, of course, it is necessary to exclude emotions and seriously enough analyze the decisions that the IOC made in relation to our country before making any judgments on this matter. Russia intends to hold contacts with the IOC in connection with the decision to remove 2018 from the Olympics.

      We ruled out emotions in 2014 at that Olympics and what? Did it help a lot? Then they wiped our feet about us, and now they used us instead of toilet paper. This is not even a slap in the face, but a blow to the jaw. Moreover, with unshakable confidence that the answer will not arrive.
      And as for the bureaucrats ... they had to be driven away from the offices long before 2014, and someone else was imprisoned. The people are frankly in favor of the D.E.B.I.L.O.V. Ugh.
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    10. mr.fafes
      mr.fafes 6 December 2017 20: 24 New
      0
      What is the statement of the supreme? He seems to have already made statements!
      The Russian authorities will not prevent the sending of Russian athletes to the 2018 Olympics in Pyeongchang in neutral status, said Russian President Vladimir Putin.
      Restrained. diplomatically? in what?
      Where is the response to removal from the 2016 Paralympic Games? V.V. Allowed to give an alkali to the whole country!
      Now suspension from the Olympics 2018! V.V Allowed to give the country a second alkali!
  2. hrych
    hrych 6 December 2017 15: 38 New
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    There will be no Olympics, she’s in Korea by the way, so don’t worry, Eun is with us laughing Of course, they are selected for the World Cup in Russia, but the hope is not great for our long-legged wassat
    1. Solomon Kane
      Solomon Kane 6 December 2017 15: 49 New
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      "In Russia, everyone is well versed in football, except for the 25 gouging who play it"
      Radio "Humor FM" lol wink
    2. ALEX_SHTURMAN
      ALEX_SHTURMAN 6 December 2017 16: 22 New
      +2
      laughing laughing laughing This is a strong statement))
    3. NEXUS
      NEXUS 6 December 2017 17: 09 New
      +3
      Quote: hrych
      There will be no Olympics, she’s in Korea by the way, so don’t worry, Eun is with us

      Dreams Dreams.
      .When a Jew fails to become a shoemaker, he dreams of being a professor.
      ... sorry, this is not about you personally, but about the whole situevine on this issue.
      Observing the events since 2014, I understand that the answer from us will not be intelligible, and that the Olympics will be held in Ur without us. Most of all, this is the feeling that we, with the entire world community, have been mixed with excrement. And now, talking about the greatness of a nation, history, victories and its identity looks ridiculous and ridiculous to the tears of the bitter.
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    2. To be or not to be
      To be or not to be 6 December 2017 15: 49 New
      +9
      Concentrator Hubs. However
      "The priority is the topic of protecting the interests of our Russian athletes."
      A government official should talk about the interests of the state! There will be a strong state - its citizens will be protected, including the interests of athletes
      1. andrej-shironov
        andrej-shironov 6 December 2017 15: 53 New
        0
        smile Did you expect something else?
  4. 117 factory
    117 factory 6 December 2017 15: 40 New
    +9
    Yeah ... This news is like a dusty bag to everyone ... And the Kremlin too. They still won’t figure out how to comment in the media, the resonance in society is huge ......
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 6 December 2017 16: 14 New
      +4
      Quote: Plant 117
      . And the Kremlin, too.

      But what about the Kremlin's 100500 experts and analysts? But what about the extraordinary mind of the Genius of the Mnogohodovok?
  5. Mar.Tirah
    Mar.Tirah 6 December 2017 15: 41 New
    14
    Quote: newbie
    more than restrained. diplomatically. interestingly did he express the opinion of the Supreme, or is this the seed before the statement of the Supreme?

    Her wife Navka. She already said-GO. Flags of the motherland, this is not for them.
    1. Dead duck
      Dead duck 6 December 2017 16: 26 New
      13
      Quote: Mar. Tira
      Her wife Navka. She already said-GO

      Plushenko stopudovo will help hold the flag.

      forgive us Russians .... it hurts hotstsa to the Olympics!
  6. solzh
    solzh 6 December 2017 15: 42 New
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    All citizens of the Russian Federation are waiting for a response from the authorities, and in response: this topic cannot be paramount. My opinion: To boycott the Olympic Games, punish responsible Russian officials for the current situation, as well as protect the interests of Russian athletes, so that in the future there would be no more such situations.
  7. HEATHER
    HEATHER 6 December 2017 15: 43 New
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    The priority is the topic of protecting the interests of our Russian athletes. They defended it? Another disgrace. Our IOC and all the athletes were strangled. They put us out as a disgrace in the world. Without evidence. And ours are "everything is normal and decent." I don’t know how everything is on the site, but: I would have ignored these games. The reason is clear.
    1. Anti-fascist
      Anti-fascist 6 December 2017 15: 52 New
      +1
      I don’t know how everything is on the site, but: I would have ignored these games

      In 1x, it is already clear that then more and more will have to be ignored.
      In 2x, the fate of the athletes, cat. all my life they’ve been preparing for this, essno doesn’t count
      1. noWAR
        noWAR 6 December 2017 16: 04 New
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        The fate of the athletes above the fate of the country? Or will we only wipe the snot further? Athletes are just a sports face of the state, about which only a lazy one does not wipe his feet! It's time to change priorities. And until they understand this at the top, a good vegetable is not expected. You can bring down the barmaleis in Syria arbitrarily, they spit on us in everything else. The impression that we are a banana republic. I’m Belarus, however, I do not agree to ask for a discount on the opinion of Bulbash, but friends - DOCLE ??
      2. Sanichsan
        Sanichsan 6 December 2017 16: 11 New
        10
        Quote: Antifascist
        In 2x, the fate of the athletes, cat. all my life they’ve been preparing for this, essno doesn’t count

        in 1x, if these athletes trained for a state account, that is, for my taxes, then at the Olympics, they (athletes) defend the prestige of their country as a whole and mine in particular, and as you know, their personal Wishlist really do not count.
        in 2, if these athletes trained for sponsorship money, then by itself let them represent the interests of the sponsor. appear under their own Sony flag, but then they have little to do with Russia.
        something like that.
      3. stas
        stas 6 December 2017 16: 19 New
        +8
        Antifascist, well, you are a fruit.
        You all count 1 and 2,
        and if a soldier on the battlefield says life alone and die for my Motherland, I'd rather live. Hands up and surrendered.

        Baykot OI is not the end of the world. There are world championships, various world tournaments, where they can also win gold under the Russian Anthem.
        1. noWAR
          noWAR 6 December 2017 16: 28 New
          +1
          The question is that athletes have been training all their lives in order to stake out their name, first of all, in history, as well as the name of the country, in the second. The main question is whether his name will be on a par with the spat upon Russia! Everyone has his own answer. To the first persons of the state - well, you & that they allowed it!
    2. Polite Moose
      Polite Moose 6 December 2017 16: 38 New
      +6
      Quote: VERESK
      I don’t know how everything is on the site, but: I would have ignored these games. The reason is clear.

      I believe that simply ignoring is not enough. Once such a booze went on the slaughter of our athletes (which I personally see another facet of the anti-Russian dirty game), then you need to already loudly knock ... on the table. Namely: to organize a parallel Olympic movement with uniform honest rules for everyone and prohibited drugs (without permission for medical reasons). Those who wish can be found in China, North Korea, Serbia, Syria, Belarus, Venezuela, Turkey, Armenia and many other countries. All championships and Olympic Games are held under the slogan: “We don’t play with cheaters” and “We are not looking for easy victories, like children in the sandbox, without worthy rivals”
    3. Hlavaty
      Hlavaty 6 December 2017 16: 51 New
      +3
      Quote: VERESK
      I don’t know how everything is on the site, but: I would have ignored these games

      It is better to make the games take place only on condition of Russian athletes. Type: "Or ours or nothing!".
      Can't Russia make a retaliatory move? So that the entire Olympic leadership felt very bad and alone without Russia.
      1. yashka12007
        yashka12007 6 December 2017 17: 45 New
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        Comrade UN should help us with this.
  8. stas
    stas 6 December 2017 15: 45 New
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    If the Kremlin caves in front of the IOC, this benefit will not bring Russia under any circumstances.
    Our athletes did not go to the USA to the 1984 Olympics of the year, but then Humpback turned up in 1985 and sold everything.
    If our athletes go under the neutral flag, they will not become neutral heroes, but will become athletes who are more personal than the Motherland.
    And who needs such heroes with their medals from the Koreans, under the approval of the United States.
    1. Berkut752
      Berkut752 6 December 2017 16: 52 New
      +2
      They need not so much medals as loot for prizes.
    2. Polite Moose
      Polite Moose 6 December 2017 17: 36 New
      0
      Quote: stas
      If our athletes go under the neutral flag, they will not become neutral heroes, but will become athletes who are more personal than the Motherland.
      And who needs such heroes with their medals from the Koreans, under the approval of the United States.

      I agree. The country raised and trained these athletes. At the Olympics, they defend the honor of the country. Honors and respect for current and past sports achievements will only be in their own country. Here I heard from the zombie man that we should give our athletes a unique opportunity to perform, all the same, they say, they will remain Russian and no one will take away our victories from us. But the question is: will they let me win? I doubt it. On the contrary, I’m sure that they will insert sticks into the wheels and scratch the urine tubes with every convenient and inconvenient case. And as a colleague wrote correctly:
      Quote: Altona
      And if you play the second or third line-up, take 35-45 places, then they will say there: "See, they don’t know how to dope without doping!"
  9. Dezinto
    Dezinto 6 December 2017 15: 46 New
    +5
    No, let the athletes go and perform, they have been striving for this all their lives. And even under a neutral flag, everyone will know exactly what! this is a country!
    And they will perform, and will receive gold, and everyone will know who it is, and this is ours !!

    And let these miserable further expire in their anger.



    1. stas
      stas 6 December 2017 15: 53 New
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      Well, you're a weirdo, in your opinion medals like money do not smell. Why does Russia need this neutral gold. Betrayal smells like diarrhea.
      1. Dezinto
        Dezinto 6 December 2017 15: 56 New
        +4
        Well you and weirdo


        Firstly, I didn’t poke you, .... and secondly, I’m talking about athletes who are blood and sweat for years! trained to get to the Olympic Games. And so there can be no political claims against them.
        1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
          Andrei from Chelyabinsk 6 December 2017 16: 08 New
          +6
          Quote: DEZINTO
          And so there can be no political claims against them.

          But they will. And they will be shot all the time on false charges of doping
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          1. Dezinto
            Dezinto 6 December 2017 17: 32 New
            +2
            Have you slate or what? I wrote in black and white! Athletes who have worked for years on their results do not at all deserve to be in a whirlpool of political intrigue. Here is my opinion and that’s it. Stop spraying my saliva here. I really respect and love my country. But let the athletes ride. Okay?
        3. yashka12007
          yashka12007 6 December 2017 17: 52 New
          0
          Well, an engineer at some secret factory plowed so that the family would not die of hunger. So he should sell the secrets to the enemy, because he had invented something there.
    2. noWAR
      noWAR 6 December 2017 16: 06 New
      +8
      Do you need spat on medals? Honest sport in the distant past, as well as honor in principle.
    3. Berkut752
      Berkut752 6 December 2017 16: 55 New
      +1
      DEZINTO, in WWII, Vlasovites were also considered Russian.
  10. Overlock
    Overlock 6 December 2017 15: 46 New
    10
    but what can a “talking head say?” He is the same as Mutko and Co. Assets behind the cordon.
  11. Lars971a
    Lars971a 6 December 2017 15: 46 New
    +1
    We had a ride with the Olympics. Therefore, I think that the main efforts should be focused on the World Cup, so that everything goes well there. Athletes feel sorry ..................
    1. noWAR
      noWAR 6 December 2017 16: 07 New
      +5
      Ostrich policy. Those who do not respond with the toric are always beaten out of boredom.
    2. Karabin
      Karabin 6 December 2017 16: 18 New
      +1
      Quote: Lars971A
      Therefore, I consider the main efforts to focus on the World Cup,

      Well yes. There is still where to bend.
    3. albert
      albert 6 December 2017 16: 28 New
      +2
      They can also act with the championship if we don’t answer now. They will not quarrel with doping (doping will not help our quickballers), they will find some other reason.
    4. Sasha_Sar
      Sasha_Sar 6 December 2017 16: 33 New
      +6
      "The main effort is to focus on the World Cup, so that everything goes fine there." And what efforts? To make transplantation of legs and brains our "lame-footed"? They have $$ green in their eyes. Well, the National Guard will restore order. The infrastructure will work for three weeks for wear and tear, but no further. Fifa will thank us for organizing the World Cup and that’s all. And if we leave the group in which we ended up, then officials and Mercedes-Benz are “laced”.
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  13. nik13
    nik13 6 December 2017 15: 51 New
    +4
    officials hoped for a chance, the king hoped for officials - the result, as always, .....
  14. mark_rod
    mark_rod 6 December 2017 15: 52 New
    +9
    Did the Russian psaki really say something intelligible. Mumble his work, so that no one would guess what ....
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  16. arane
    arane 6 December 2017 15: 53 New
    +3
    He didn’t say anything at all!
  17. q75agent
    q75agent 6 December 2017 15: 54 New
    +2
    Quote: Anton
    And for whom? Would Sobchak and Navalny do the right thing in this situation?

    and you except these two more than one candidate do not know? no
  18. SCHMEL
    SCHMEL 6 December 2017 15: 55 New
    +6
    IOC bureaucrats, in my opinion, did what they were obliged, proving that it was not in vain that they eat their bread and spit on them, by and large, at the Olympic Games, the Olympic Movement, the Olympic "family", especially since there was an "order" of overseas patrons wassat And to the Russian bureaucrats from sports fool who do not know how to work even for "satisfactory", the most serious punishment should follow
  19. Altona
    Altona 6 December 2017 15: 55 New
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    #RussianBoycottOfTheOlympicGames The Kremlin did not hesitate to buy $ 50 billion for the Sochi 2014 Olympics and now it’s a pity to allocate funds for counterclaims. Athletes file lawsuits on their own behalf and for their money. And how will the “Olympic athletes from Russia” compete when the pure athlete Legkov is removed? Why cling to the stripes and inscriptions of the "Olympic ghetto" like the Jews Nazis sewed on "Magen David" (star of David). And besides the Olympics they are not offered any starts? I doubt it. And what prestige is now from such an Olympics? What will the hockey team of Russia be called? It is necessary to boycott this madhouse and sue. Dvorkovich incidentally for speaking at the Olympics. it is very significant that traitors and liberties for speaking at the Olympics. That is, it is necessary to speak so that then we will be taken away those miserable medals that will be. And if you play the second or third line-up, take 35-45 places, then they will say there: "See, they don’t know how to dope without doping!"
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      1. Sasha_Sar
        Sasha_Sar 6 December 2017 16: 43 New
        +2
        "My maternal grandfather woke up in me, and he was tender ... at the slightest misfortune he froze, did nothing, hoped for the best! When his own wife, beloved, was strangled with him, he stood by and persuaded: be patient, maybe it will cost! Good boy!" The film "Ordinary Miracle".
  21. q75agent
    q75agent 6 December 2017 15: 56 New
    +5
    Quote: mark_rod
    Did the Russian psaki really say something intelligible. Mumble his work, so that no one would guess what ...

    and let the durik mustache shave off laughing which secretary is such and politics, is it better to take Lopyrev’s GDP wink
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 6 December 2017 18: 57 New
      +2
      Quote: q75agent
      which secretary is such and politics

      What a king, such a secretary.
  22. lady.endzhi
    lady.endzhi 6 December 2017 15: 57 New
    +5
    Yes, stop paying them dues, that's all. They only understand money. Like in the movie "Brother", remember - "everything is not real for them, only real money," well, something like that.
  23. Yugra
    Yugra 6 December 2017 15: 59 New
    12
    This bastard in the photo is married to a citizen of America, she has housing there, her children study there. This is Navka, which already aches that it is necessary to go under the white flag and kneel down. That's so simple in this scenario ...
  24. q75agent
    q75agent 6 December 2017 16: 00 New
    +3
    Quote: captain
    And what will your wife show you? No need to envy a beautiful wife.

    you have a strange standard of beauty, there’s nothing in this Navka lol
  25. Sergey53
    Sergey53 6 December 2017 16: 04 New
    +1
    I understand his words so that no one will sue them. Everything will be lowered on the brakes. Next year's FOOTBALL Championships are running out.
  26. rocket757
    rocket757 6 December 2017 16: 05 New
    +4
    Boltology.
    Shaw will decide?
    For any motto of the Olympians like - Sport, the world - as it can no longer be believed from the word at all!
  27. WarriorWolf
    WarriorWolf 6 December 2017 16: 06 New
    +6
    ... we must fully concentrate all our efforts in the first place, and already consider everything else in the second ...
    Hmm, Klitschko looks like a pearl! In general, the official comment is nothing! How many fans are there? You can easily score on their opinion. This is a blow to the athletes and all the codla that feeds on it. I’m violet at the Olympics (summer and winter), I do not care about athletes and all the committees. Now it’s just a business and a farce, not a sport !!! On the prestige of the motherland does not affect in any way, from the word in general! And the opinion of all personalities and states does not care about the rifle tower ...
  28. mik0588
    mik0588 6 December 2017 16: 06 New
    12
    It's all about some of our "athletes" Taldychat.
    What are they “yours”, on what grounds?
    Are they working next to you in production? Live in the same porch? Are they in the market? No.
    And the only thing that connects them with you is that they eat at your expense, along with their attendant attendants and bureaucrats. Some of them, even in Russian, are already stammering.
    Your athletes are the yard / workshop football / volleyball / etc teams. As for the pros - parasites and parasites.
    Professional athletes - (censorship) of a class, parasitic society.
    And in the USSR they made (censorship) a mistake when they began to cultivate professional sports.
    And all this hysteria with shouting calls about "our answer to Chamberlain" or about "rallying against X around Y" is simple (censorship)
    1. region58
      region58 6 December 2017 17: 24 New
      +1
      Quote: mik0588
      It's all about some of our "athletes" Taldychat.

      Many "our athletes" do not even live in Russia ...
  29. uskrabut
    uskrabut 6 December 2017 16: 07 New
    +5
    "Further, journalists asked Peskov his opinion on the need to punish responsible Russian officials for the situation."

    Who will punish whom, the gang is one. With your right hand we clap on the left - we get applause.
  30. saltickov.
    saltickov. 6 December 2017 16: 08 New
    0
    Yes, our chenushi is on the drum, well, they’re sorry of course that they don’t roll relatives for free, well, they’ll go so much like a boble. In general, the inhabitants of Bogdad are sleeping calmly.
  31. noWAR
    noWAR 6 December 2017 16: 10 New
    +3
    Not even funny!
  32. anjey
    anjey 6 December 2017 16: 10 New
    +3
    “I can say one thing: this topic cannot be paramount. The priority is the topic of protecting the interests of our Russian athletes. To protect their interests, we must fully concentrate all our efforts
    There is a full-blown war against Russia at all levels, and sport in this case is in the impudent, low and vile trap of the West, if you put the personal interests of our athletes (it’s insulting for them) above state prestige and pride in the country, this is not right, I think Russia must ignore this olympiad, survive somehow ..
    1. Overlock
      Overlock 6 December 2017 16: 18 New
      +1
      no need to substitute for a start, otherwise the West is to blame. Who is to blame at home?
      1. anjey
        anjey 6 December 2017 16: 28 New
        +1
        once experienced and such
      2. noWAR
        noWAR 6 December 2017 16: 32 New
        +2
        Well, are you funny, our laws and the ability to push the necessary medicines against them? Integrated, called, into the Western world.
      3. Sergey53
        Sergey53 6 December 2017 20: 13 New
        0
        Nobody is at home.
    2. anjey
      anjey 6 December 2017 19: 27 New
      0
      full blown ...
  33. ALEX_SHTURMAN
    ALEX_SHTURMAN 6 December 2017 16: 10 New
    +3
    It seems that the primary theme is the protection of officials themselves from "unjust popular anger"!
    And we are sitting here without Dim! angry
  34. Manager
    Manager 6 December 2017 16: 13 New
    +5
    Quote: Goha Meister
    Who raped that? )) You screamers and talkers are more expensive to listen to. The country suffers from people like you, people with a maidan of the brain, being treated or having a snack.

    And what did not raped? How many athletes were suspended for trumped-up charges? Our power stood up for them? And where does the Maidan comrade? Take off your pink glasses and stop watching the first channel. Compare prices in the store for essential products 6 months ago and now, as well as gas prices, too. From January 2018, prices will rise again.
  35. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 6 December 2017 16: 15 New
    +3
    "From this answer alone, it becomes clear that in the higher echelons of power
    until recently, they believed that common sense would prevail in the IOC "////

    The answer is clear what exactly such a solution was expected. Peskov’s answer is not the slightest
    indignation (or even surprise) by the decisions taken.
    1. noWAR
      noWAR 6 December 2017 16: 33 New
      0
      Under a lying stone ... as they say, Warrior. You would not allow this.
  36. Overlock
    Overlock 6 December 2017 16: 17 New
    0
    Quote: captain
    No need to envy a beautiful wife

    Is it Navka something beautiful? Yeah.....
  37. Alexsin
    Alexsin 6 December 2017 16: 18 New
    0
    Quote: Nonna
    Quote: Monos
    If there is no sharp and painful reaction for the IOC, I doubt that I will vote for GDP.


    I’m definitely not going to vote for him. It’s time for him to leave.

    So this whole provocation with the OI before the presidential election is designed to prevent the people of Russia from voting for Putin and choosing the State Department puppet of Navalny, but the Americans do not understand the Russian soul. The Russians, on the contrary, will unite and vote for Putin for the most part. Well, but you can vote for Sobchak, Navalny will not have a criminal record in the elections. And Sobchak, of course, will save Russia.
  38. Stegosaurus Brontosaurus
    Stegosaurus Brontosaurus 6 December 2017 16: 19 New
    0
    Now, of course, it is necessary to exclude emotions and seriously enough analyze the decisions that the IOC adopted regarding our country

    Before the decision was made, there were two options: they would allow it or not. Not allowed. It is strange that our answer was not formulated in advance.
    And where is the concentrated effort to respond to the removal of the Russian Paralympic Games from the 2016 Games?

    Two hands for!
  39. tank66
    tank66 6 December 2017 16: 20 New
    +2
    Fantasy. Using the moment, it is announced the creation of Russia / RF + RB + DNR + who is with us /. Naturally, the red flag. And for creativity, the innovation is the flag-visualization; the anthem is sound, and We introduce odorization / smell - in Latin /. So that the stadium vodka and smoked bacon smelt. The horns are numb. Fantasy.
  40. noodles
    noodles 6 December 2017 16: 23 New
    +2
    Of course, Peskov is not the President, but he is more informed than we are! I agree only with his one thesis - that emotions will not help the matter! Here we need highly professional lawyers and a thorough analysis of the decision of the IOC, so as not to be in an even worse situation! As to whether or not to go, let each athlete decide for himself — if you go, YOU ONLY NEED TO WIN, or the media will spit out even more! Regarding how government officials in charge of sports have dishonored the country to the whole world, it cannot be paramount — IT SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED and everyone must be deservedly punished without discounts and liberalism! Not like SERDYUKOV and others ..... It’s time in the country to restore order and executive discipline !!!
  41. vladhen
    vladhen 6 December 2017 16: 23 New
    +2
    Does the IOC have a charter? And why is the purity of athletes determined by voting, and not by medical tests? Doping tests are no longer able to protect the Olympic Games?
  42. Graz
    Graz 6 December 2017 16: 25 New
    0
    We won’t put an ultimatum, they will continue to carry the muzzle on the table, apparently someone likes it in the higher echelons of power, there it’s impossible to clean it from the enemies of the people
  43. VIA_56
    VIA_56 6 December 2017 16: 29 New
    +3
    For our part, there should not be any consultations with these venal prostitutes from the IOC (ready for anything for a fee)! No neutral (read: white) flags over the heads of our athletes. We have a state with its own symbols. And once again they seek to humiliate us. How much can you endure this? Maybe it's time to put forward their demands? Radchenkova summon
    , let him tell the athletes who he replaced the samples in the eyes of. No Russia at the Olympics-no games! Return all money, refuse broadcasts. And initiate investigations into the use of doping by American athletes at summer Olympics. To set the requirements: if the athlete has a disease that requires the use of drugs that are on the prohibited list, the athlete should not be allowed to perform at all. It's time to close these loopholes.
  44. vladhen
    vladhen 6 December 2017 16: 31 New
    +2
    The principles, rules and regulations of the Olympic Games are determined by the Olympic Charter, the basis of which was approved by the International Sports Congress in Paris in 1894, which, at the suggestion of the French teacher and public figure Pierre de Coubertin, decided to organize the Games along the lines of the antique and to create the International Olympic Committee (IOC). According to the charter, the Olympic Games “... bring together athletes from all countries in fair and equitable competitions. In relation to countries and individuals, no discrimination on racial, religious or political grounds is permitted ... ”
    1. domnich
      domnich 6 December 2017 17: 17 New
      +4
      Quote: vladhen
      The principles, rules and regulations of the Olympic Games are determined by the Olympic Charter


      That's it for the Olympics again will not match The Olympic Charter of the times of Pierre de Coubertin, - we have nothing to do there.

      And it’s better to spend those $ 15 million, including on legal costs for the rehabilitation of injured athletes and prosecution of unscrupulous officials of the IOC in court (we can talk about decent amounts of compensation).

      Quote: lady.endzhi
      They only understand money.
      1. Polite Moose
        Polite Moose 6 December 2017 18: 16 New
        +1
        Quote: domnich
        And it’s better to spend those $ 15 million, including on legal costs for the rehabilitation of injured athletes and prosecution of unscrupulous officials of the IOC in court (we can talk about decent amounts of compensation).

        Better yet, declare that all the money not spent on the Russian Olympic movement will go to the development of the Russian defense industry, to the development of new types of weapons or to strengthening the vertical of power in the country.
  45. Antokha
    Antokha 6 December 2017 16: 34 New
    +1
    The authorities did not respond. The question is whether we know how to respond.
    1. Boycott the game?
    1.1 Counter-question: are athletes ready for this? There is a serious suspicion that for athletes the Olympics is a way to show personal (!) Achievement, to get a medal for yourself. The country here, if not in the last place, then not in the first. And if so, many athletes will still want to perform. Will we bother them?
    1.2 And it will bite those who removed us? Or are they neighing above us? Like, we don’t let them into the store, but they decided to stay in spite of us without food. You understand that it is not so much the strength of our athletes, but the humiliation of Russia. Well, we will not participate in this Olympics, nor in the next. So what? This is what they need for us to be gone.
    2. A few years ago in the air over Switzerland (?) The Tu-154 collided with children and another plane due to the fault of the dispatcher. So the father of one of these children was not too lazy to go, find the dispatcher and kill him. Did it somehow affect the situation in aviation, with the tolerances of our aircraft? No. Draw conclusions.
    3. Ruslan Ostashko perfectly commented on how refusing to pay to the Council of Europe after they kicked us out of there, sobered them, and said: you have to hit your wallet, this is the only thing they understand. Question: can we stop financing the IOC and others like it and hope that we win? After all, we do not need the Council of Europe, and we cannot refuse the Olympics yet.
    4. Do our athletes need to be protected? They can participate. It is necessary to protect the country. The war goes against it.
    5. To blacklist all members of the IOC and all their relatives and never let them into Russia? Do they want to come here?
    6. Do not vote for GDP? Well, let’s ruin the country in anger. This is the enemy that is striving for.
    7. Build incriminating evidence (real or not) on all members of the IOC and their ilk and publish it shockingly in the press read by the West. To expose them as friends of Putin, then LGBT-phobes, well, you can think of. But the problem is that these mongrels are not interesting to anyone. Replace with others.

    But most likely, it is necessary to start attacking world organizations as states. This means fighting with them, and not with specific people. But how, it’s not clear yet. Therefore, we have to admit that until we have developed a response and strategy, we will exaggerate and think.
    1. VIA_56
      VIA_56 6 December 2017 17: 03 New
      +3
      Why can't we do anything? The human rights court has not been canceled. And the collective ban on the participation of athletes of one state is not a violation of these rights? And, if we were removed from the IOC, then why should we deposit money there? Return all contributions to this Olympics in Russia. Unsubscribe from TV broadcasts. Personally, I will not watch these OI-18 without Russia. And then, why didn’t we conduct a poll of citizens: do we need a broadcast if we don’t see our flag? If we go under the white flag, then we acknowledge our surrender.
  46. Enoch
    Enoch 6 December 2017 16: 36 New
    +1
    Sand as always pours sand.
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  48. Agasfer vecnyzhid
    Agasfer vecnyzhid 6 December 2017 16: 40 New
    +3
    Removal from the OI, this is no longer a check for lice, this is a blow to the teeth. Our MUTKO functionaries did not pass checks for lice. All lousy. And MUTKO himself is an idler of the 1st guild. It remains for the Supreme to bring this ass to MUTKA and swallow the blood from the blow. After such a decision, the OI remains to withdraw from the IOC. Do not recognize the fine, and no longer pay dues. To non-Western European countries, only respect and respect for obvious anti-doping violations. Russia already left the IOC in 1902. just because of an unfair refereeing. The next moment of decisive action came.
  49. Woland
    Woland 6 December 2017 16: 42 New
    +3
    You can only concentrate on what is there. And if not, there’s nothing to talk about. We all saw how our leadership, led by GDP, intensely "concentrated on our Paralympic people last year. Now it will be exactly the same go around ears that we’ll answer “asymmetrically” that, supposedly, guys, everything will be cheeky farts. Then, that we will “courageously not succumb to provocations” and the like crap. Then. when everyone will lose steam. they’ll shut up and that’s the end. In general, everything is as always and for any reason I need to have courage to answer at least “mirror”. And they don’t have it. So guys. exhale, relax and let's all get together. .. how our “hands of guides” call us. What else remains for us ?!
    1. Litvinov
      Litvinov 6 December 2017 17: 07 New
      +2
      This whole story looks like the times of "Crooked Boris", in which Foreign Minister A. Kozyrev merged the country wholesale and retail.

      Sports officials have lost not only their faces, but also their pants. And all they do not care ... Spit in the eyes, all of God's dew. A shame on all citizens of the country.

      As you wish, but without Stalinist justice, the country will fall apart into specific principalities. IMHO
  50. Sige
    Sige 6 December 2017 16: 42 New
    +3
    The neighbors were not ready to respond to the removal of Russian athletes from participation in the 2018 Olympics.