Turkey - USA: Cold War is over - take out your nuclear weapons

Against the background of a sharp cooling of relations between Ankara and Washington, Turkey has heard statements that the authorities intend to take a decision on the American nuclear arsenal in the country. Recall that the American nuclear weapon located on one of the air bases in Turkey. We are talking about a military facility Incirlik.

German edition German economic news, referring to the representative of the Turkish authorities, reports that the official Ankara intends to seek from the US withdrawal of nuclear weapons from Turkey. In the Turkish media stated that the withdrawal of the American nuclear arsenal from the territory of Turkey will benefit both Turkey and the United States.

Ankara gives the following arguments:

The cold war is long over. And if the United States considers itself to be winners in it, then it’s time to end the actions that look like a continuation of the Cold War. As a result, it is necessary to withdraw American nuclear weapons from Turkey.

Such statements were made against the background of the publication in the Turkish parliament of a report on the location and number of US nuclear warheads in Europe: these are 150 units in the Federal Republic of Germany, Italy, Belgium, the Netherlands and Turkey. In Turkey itself, as stated, there are at least 50 US nuclear bombs with nuclear "stuffing."

Comments

[Sofa General]

Oh, Erdogan apparently cleaned the "Augean" stables, not afraid of another coup attempt ...

[siberalt]

If Turkey achieves the withdrawal of American nuclear weapons, it will be ahead of European Germany. And this is a strong move in revenge for refusing to join the EU,

[Shurik70]

if the United States considers itself to be winners in it, then it’s time to complete actions that look like a continuation of the Cold War

But nothing that after the end of World War II, the Americans still have not withdrawn their troops from Germany and Japan?
But I agree. IF they achieve the withdrawal of nuclear weapons, they will indeed be ahead of the whole planet in peace initiatives and reducing tensions.

[Cxnumx]

Quote: Shurik70

IF they achieve the withdrawal of nuclear weapons, they will indeed be ahead of the whole planet in peace initiatives and reducing tensions.

don’t worry, from the point of view of the USA and the EU they can be immediately accused of supporting terrorism and threatening No. 3 for “peace” (after the DPRK with Russia). even the fact that they will not help in NATO))

[BABAY22]

Right now, the Poles will make a fuss about bringing these bombs to them. What if they save from the 4th section of their laying country.

[Geisenberg]

Quote: K0

Quote: Shurik70

IF they achieve the withdrawal of nuclear weapons, they will indeed be ahead of the whole planet in peace initiatives and reducing tensions.

don’t worry, from the point of view of the USA and the EU they can be immediately accused of supporting terrorism and threatening No. 3 for “peace” (after the DPRK with Russia). even the fact that they will not help in NATO))

Then it’s not "3", but "4" ... Iran is still there. Iran will be tougher than Turkey in the sense of "threat")))

[Geisenberg]

Quote: Shurik70

if the United States considers itself to be winners in it, then it’s time to complete actions that look like a continuation of the Cold War

But nothing that after the end of World War II, the Americans still have not withdrawn their troops from Germany and Japan?
But I agree. IF they achieve the withdrawal of nuclear weapons, they will indeed be ahead of the whole planet in peace initiatives and reducing tensions.

I saw all the facts but made inadequate conclusions. Endos can hold troops anywhere. This does not mean that these troops determine anything other than their own fantasies.

[Geisenberg]

Quote: siberalt

If Turkey achieves the withdrawal of American nuclear weapons, it will be ahead of European Germany. And this is a strong move in revenge for refusing to join the EU,

Make it elementary. You can evict the entire base along with nuclear weapons, they have already evicted the Germans from Inzhirlik ... only the consequences will be very unpleasant for Turkey.

[ghby]

Quote: Geisenberg

Make it elementary. You can evict the entire base along with nuclear weapons, they have already evicted the Germans from Inzhirlik ... only the consequences will be very unpleasant for Turkey.

Do you think that Russian servicemen will behave worse than Americans?

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: siberalt

If Turkey achieves the withdrawal of American nuclear weapons, it will be ahead of European Germany. And this is a strong move in revenge for refusing to join the EU,

And an even stronger move in revenge of the United States for supporting the Kurds and Ankara’s refusal to extradite Fetullah Gulen.

[Logall]

Because he is afraid, he does so! Ordinary Turks, like citizens of any other country, do not like Americans. Thus, he will enlist their support!

[novel66]

but are they members of NATO? Is this their holy duty?

[FLOOD]

What is the obligation?)) Is the nuclear weapons of the Russian Federation located on the territory of the CSTO member countries or is this the responsibility of the CSTO member countries?)))

[novel66]

but what does the CSTO have to do with it? NATs have their own rules

[Warrior with machine gun]

Hi Sanya, here the main thing is to decide what he really wants, and given his "multi-vector nature" and diversity, the result may not be predictable))

[Chertt]

God forbid the Turks are neighbors or allies. Like a nonsense woman, the whole brain will endure .....

[Antianglosax]

Quote: Sofa General

Oh, Erdogan apparently cleaned the "Augean" stables, not afraid of another coup attempt ...

Almost the entire population of Russia, with the exception of obvious collaborators and henchmen of the west, has long been waiting for the same from Putin. Only with us this cleaning is a farce and a clowning, so for the excuse ...

[Maz]

Are the Ottomans exactly Turks? Mauger is also Russian? That’s why each man’s dream is to visit the Red Square, learn Russian and marry, if not Russian, then at least Ukrainian

[1331M]

Erdogan, it seems, was seriously offended by them. Yes, and let them all bite into his NATO there.

[Victor N]

Very reasonable, did not expect.

[Esoteric]

What could not be expected? What can the EU and NATO give Erdogan? War and refugee problems. Russia gives gas, Russia can supply the best weapons, can become a trade partner and an active "sponsor" of tourism ... We were not going to fight with Turkey, and moreover, we did not sponsor its enemies ...

[Rurikovich]

Yeah, schasssss And they will withdraw from Turkey, and even more so from Germany.
God himself appointed America to be the overseer of the world, and therefore, whatever she wants, she will do !
And here some vassals require something
Neighing from the heart

[FLOOD]

Are you talking about Turkey, do you consider it a vassal? Below is a list of vassals of the Ottoman Empire:
Prilepsky kingdom (1371–1395)
Principality of Velbyzhd (1371–1395)
Byzantine Empire (1373-1394 vassal; 1424-1452 tributary)
Bulgarian Kingdom (Tarnovo) (1373-1393)
Dobrudjan principality (1387–1395)
Moravian Serbia (1390–1402)
Vukova land (1392-1412)
Principality of Wallachia (1395-1397, 1417-1861 with interruptions)
Bulgarian Kingdom (Vidin) (1396-1422)
Duchy of Saint Sava (1435-1444, 1469-1483)
Principality of Moldova (1456-1457, 1503-1861 with interruptions)
The Trebizond Empire (1456–1461 tributary)
Dubrovnik Republic (1458-1808)
Crimean Khanate (1478-1774)
Budzhak Horde (? -1807)
Edisan Horde (Ukrainian.) (? —1770)
Edichkul Horde (Ukrainian.) (? —1770)
Dzhambuilutskaya horde (? —1770)
Circassian principalities and tribes
Kabarda (? —1739)
Khan's Ukraine (Ukrainian.) (1684-1760)
Lebanon under the rule of the Ma'an dynasties (1516-1697) and Shehab (1697-1840)
Mecca Sheriffat (English) (1517-1803)
Principality of Transylvania (1543–1692 intermittently)
Kingdom of the Abdalvadids (1554–1556)
Imereti kingdom (1555-1804)
Principality of Abkhazia (1555-1810)
Principality of Guria (1555-1804)
Principality of Megrell (1557-1803)
Principality of Svaneti (1555-1833)
Duchy of Naxos (1566–1579)
Tarkovsky shamshalstvo (1590 — XVII century)
Right-Bank Hetman (Right-Bank Army Zaporizhzhya) (1669-1683)
Principality of Upper Hungary under the administration of Imre Tököli (1682–1685)
Barbarian coast
Beylik Tunisia (English) (1705-1881)
Vilayet (Pashlyk) Tripolitania under the control of the Karamanli dynasty (1711-1835)
Eyalet (Deylik) Algeria (English) (1711-1830)
Republic of the Seven Islands (1800-1807)
Principality of Serbia (1817-1830; within the new borders of 1833-1878)
Principality of Samos (1832-1912)
The United Principality of Wallachia and Moldova (Romanya Prensliği) (1862-1877)
Egyptian Khedivat (1867-1914)
Anglo-Egyptian Sudan (1899-1914)
State of Qatar (1871-1916)
Emirate of Jebel Shammar (1876-1921)
Principality of Bulgaria (Bulgaristan Prensliği) (1878-1908)
Eastern Rumelia (1878-1908)
Cretan state (1898-1913)
North Caucasus Emirate (1919-1920)

[FLOOD]

And now the most interesting:
In 1786, Thomas Jefferson, the US ambassador to France, and John Adams, the US ambassador to Great Britain, met in London with Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Ajoy, the Caliphate ambassador to England, in order to agree on a peaceful resolution to the conflict. The meeting, however, ended in vain for the United States. In 1793, the United States again ventured to set foot on the water of the Ottoman Caliphate, and this time 12 U.S. naval vessels were captured. In response to this, in March 1794, the American Congress authorized the President of Washington and allocated about 700 gold coins for the construction of strong steel ships. However, this fleet also lost in a clash with the Caliphate fleet. The United States understood the position of the then superpower, and a year later the Berber Treaty was concluded between the United States and the Ottoman Caliphate. Under its terms, the United States was required to pay the Caliphate a one-time payment of $ 000. (in gold) in return for permission to sail the Atlantic Ocean and the Mediterranean Sea and the return of captured ships. In the future, the US government was to contribute another $ 992 in gold and $ 463 in ransom for captured American soldiers. In addition, the United States agreed to pay an annual tax (tribute) of -642 Ottoman gold lire. In addition to these huge taxes, America has agreed at its own expense to build and deliver steel ships to the Caliphate. An interesting fact is that the Ottoman Caliphate affirmed its diplomatic superiority, obliging the United States to pay an annual tribute according to the Islamic calendar, and not the Christian one. In addition, the agreement in accordance with the then status quo was drawn up in the state language of the Caliphate, that is, in Ottoman. The Berber Treaty is the only American legal document concluded in a foreign language, and the only one under which America paid tribute to another people. The first president of the USA George Washington signed the contract.
Despite the fact that the confrontation came with varying success (it should be noted the success of the Ottoman troops, who managed to capture the flagship of the new American fleet, the frigate Philadelphia), as a result, it turned out to be useless for America. On June 10, 1805, on behalf of the Caliphate, Tripoli Governor Yusuf Karamanli signed a truce with the Americans. As a result of the new treaty, the United States pledged to pay $ 60 for the release of prisoners of war (at the time of the signing of the treaty, 300 Americans were captives in Tripoli, and only 100 Tripoli were captured by the US Army). As for the annual tax, the Jefferson administration was forced to recognize its bindingness in the future. The agreement remained valid until the Ottoman Caliphate was destroyed.

The full version on the website of IA IslamNews: https://www.islamnews.ru/news-136485.html

The full version on the website of IA IslamNews: https://www.islamnews.ru/news-136485.html

[Warrior with machine gun]

the fact that Amersot was appointed to watch the world, they themselves came up with, and now they harness everyone to believe it, but the overgrown, uneducated pastoralists are really poorly suited for this, and they are fed up with everything, any person who thinks with his own head understands that there are more problems from them, than good.

[newcomer]

it is normal, but it is unlikely that these 50 bombs will return to yankistan. most likely osyadu somewhere in Romania, or the like; or pumped to South Korea.

[Logall]

Do not be surprised if to Ukraine! But in this case, the Government will become more fond of overseas visits !!!
Garik , good morning!

[newcomer]

with a peppy, frosty morning, Alexander. in ukrland nepotodstva_ agreement and all that. but they can throw a dirty bomb. their visits are held in high esteem, only to feed and keep those who wish them less and less. here in the situation inside the circus, everything says that Avakov is not controlled by the “guarantor”, he “screwed up” with Mishiko twice, we will soon expect an appeal to the people from the guarantor from some kind of Washington, or Brussels.

[Going]

Quote: Logall

Do not be surprised if to Ukraine!

The United States is certainly arrogant, but that would mean declaring war on us.

[Warrior with machine gun]

such morons can not be given, they will begin to extinguish each other directly on the Maidan))

[insular]

That's what life-giving tomatoes do ...

[ImPerts]

Turks to Americans:
- Take out your tsatskas!
Americans:
- No no. What do you? We can not!
Turks:
- Then we will leave them to ourselves ...
American people:

Joke of course)))

[g1washntwn]

Turkey: - The United States pick up its nuclear bombs.
USA: - No, we will not pick them up.
Russia: - And let's, I’ll take out, we have an action in Eldorado, we are exchanging your old nuclear bombs for S-400.

[CAT BAIYUN]

We change your old nuclear bombs on the S-400

Great promotion!
All marketers will strangle themselves with envy!

[rotmistr60]

withdraw your nuclear weapons

Erdogan, on a grand scale and in the most painful place of the Americans, can be said below the waist. Breathe deeper American - helps.

[novel66]

yeah, and jump on the heels!

[iliitchitch]

The demoniac was seriously offended by the shooting of the portrait.

[inkass_98]

The United States clearly did not expect such a scoundrel from Erdogan. All vassals-limitrophies vying to demand the placement of a senior weapon, and here such a pitch from the oldest member of NATO. It’s not good, definitely ...

[Herculesic]

Erdogad, and you just nationalize this weapon!

[bald]

And I’m about the same thing - expropriate, they won’t jerk, and sell it to Palestine, Lebanon, well, at least the DPRK (at worst).

[askort154]

We will wait for the next message: On New Year's Eve, 50 American atomic bombs were stolen from the Incirlik base by unidentified persons. The identity of the abductors and the whereabouts of the abducted person have not been established.

[MadCat]

Quote: askort154

We will wait for the next message: On New Year's Eve, 50 American atomic bombs were stolen from the Incirlik base by unidentified persons. The identity of the abductors and the whereabouts of the abducted person have not been established. belay

I would look at it, and I also spotted on the stopwatch the life of the President of Turkey after that, there is a flight time for the drone for several minutes

[unignm]

so yes they wrote here sho dumb at the Turk vigorously Tipo exported sho bleh?

[Zaurbek]

Did the USSR give the right to use nuclear weapons to our allies? in the NTO in case of war with us, the German Air Force will fly to us with the American TNW.

[Geisenberg]

From this I understand !!! And after all they say everything correctly !!

[Romanenko]

In general, he is a very interesting character, this Recep Taipovich.
It will run over some, then others. From extreme to extreme.
It’s for the “whites”, then for the “reds” ... The old man is painfully unstable.

[bratchanin3]

It would be a good kick to the tailbone of the Americans - a good blow to pride.

[rocket757]

Would be, that's what we will see.
From "hate" to "love" is one step!
It seems to me that this is a very good reason to bargain, but emigrants are also a serious argument for geyropa.
Erdogan's deck of trumps is full, who can beat him? However, the Yankees also always have such a convincing argument -COLT- at the time of sesba, if it is also put to the head ??? someone's cards may be bits.
For the geyropu ... everything was sour, only money, there’s nothing more to threaten, except with a finger.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: rocket757

a good reason to bargain, however emigrants, too, such a serious argument for gayropy.

Duc, Europe is on the side here. Presented to mattresses, which before Europe somehow ... Especially since they (mattresses) have withdrawn from the agreement on migration. So that

Quote: rocket757

For the geyropu ... everything is sour,

[rocket757]

With all the current gazes, they are used to \ forced to live under the wing of the Yankees, almost a "beloved wife."
So let’s see what makes them “sourer”, from Erdogan’s assaults or from the care / pressure of the Yankers.
After all, to us, too, not everything is soooooo! spray is flying in all directions, but at least it’s unpleasant.
For the maximum, we’ll see the identity, but we won’t be squandered by anyone.

[Cheldon]

Quote: Maz

Are the Ottomans exactly Turks? Mauger is also Russian? That’s why each man’s dream is to visit the Red Square, learn Russian and marry, if not Russian, then at least Ukrainian

There, the genotype is so diluted with Slavic blood over centuries of dominion, which is not surprising.

[Romanenko]

They themselves diluted as best they could - the elite troops Janissaries were practically from the Slavs, so that the fighters did not feel homesickness and family, the Janissaries preferred to bring up children who were stolen from the occupied regions or posed by the Crimean Tatars who were raiding Russia.
Of course, many Janissaries perished in the battles, but they left a considerable amount of genetic “memory" in Turkey. So the Turks have a serious Slavic-Armenian-Seljuk compote there

[rocket757]

Compote he is compote, but the nature of trading is not soaked.

[bald]

And the best thing is to block and expropriate - they will not do anything with Ankara.

[Sergey53]

Point Trump to pick them up on that date. Do not pick up, privatize. What was the matter?

[faterdom]

Now the IOC will cause scratches on Turkish tubes. Together with Vada. Just don’t think, America has nothing to do with it ...

[1536]

That is right. And from the territory of Turkey, and from the territory of Germany.
Stop keeping the world at bay. Russia was the "gendarme of Europe" in the second quarter of the 19th century. Great Britain even earlier. France was barely pacified with all its revolutions. In Germany, the gendarme formats acquired hypertrophied forms, resulting in Nazism, which claimed tens of millions of lives.
The USA is a state without roots, without history, and they don’t want to know someone else’s history. They want one thing: to act out as a drunk sheriff and terrorize the entire population of the planet. Well, well, if they follow the path of Britain or ours. And when you consider that they have clans with German roots in power, then the danger increases many times over. Patients with such "childhood diseases" must be quarantined, sanitized and brought back to life.

[FLOOD]

Quote: Romanenko

They themselves diluted as they could - the elite troops of the Janissaries were practically from the Slavs, ...
Of course, many Janissaries perished in the battles, but they left a considerable amount of genetic “memory" in Turkey. So the Turks have a serious Slavic-Armenian-Seljuk compote there

enough arrra ... made me laugh ... first, at least browse the Internet (but not on the wiki, this is your resource) how and from whom the enichari were formed, they all got it already ..

[Qwazar Qwazar]

Turkey is a NATO member country that has atomic bombs on Ingerlic ... bombs, by the way, can be used by a country without developed infrastructure for use, unlike rocket technology ...
Let's say nuclear missiles, the country that captured them will not be able to use any range - at best, dismantle the poison. charge, if the scientific potential is enough ... And with bombs another garbage, called - FOR FREE!

[Qwazar Qwazar]

Just load on the plane and screw the detonator tube * ROFL * ...
And Turkey bought the S-400 (which the truth has not yet been delivered but already paid) easily blocking Inzherdik ... Oh, how everything spins fun :)))) ...
Given the fact that the United States supports the Kurds and supplies weapons to Peshmerg, promising them the creation of free Kurdistan in part of the territory of Syria-Iraq-Iran and Turkey’s attention !!!! - still more interesting than it might seem at first glance:)))) ...
I see only one goal of the purchase of S-400 by Turkey - the possibility of an opportunistic hijacking of US nuclear bombs, because the S-400 does not integrate in Turkey's CIUS, and in this sense the American THAAD is more profitable to use, despite its worst performance compared to the S-400 because as part of the BIUS - he will win back from our complex, which is "one in the field warrior" ...
Notice - I didn’t say capture poison. US bombs, I said OPPORTUNITY TO CAPTURE ... - that is, blackmail is in the first place :)))) - the east is a delicate matter:))) ...

[rocket757]

All this is fantastic and yes, the east is a delicate matter!