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Turkey - USA: Cold War is over - take out your nuclear weapons

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Against the background of a sharp cooling of relations between Ankara and Washington, Turkey has heard statements that the authorities intend to take a decision on the American nuclear arsenal in the country. Recall that the American nuclear weapon located on one of the air bases in Turkey. We are talking about a military facility Incirlik.


German edition German economic news, referring to the representative of the Turkish authorities, reports that the official Ankara intends to seek from the US withdrawal of nuclear weapons from Turkey. In the Turkish media stated that the withdrawal of the American nuclear arsenal from the territory of Turkey will benefit both Turkey and the United States.

Turkey - USA: Cold War is over - take out your nuclear weapons


Ankara gives the following arguments:
The cold war is long over. And if the United States considers itself to be winners in it, then it’s time to end the actions that look like a continuation of the Cold War. As a result, it is necessary to withdraw American nuclear weapons from Turkey.


Such statements were made against the background of the publication in the Turkish parliament of a report on the location and number of US nuclear warheads in Europe: these are 150 units in the Federal Republic of Germany, Italy, Belgium, the Netherlands and Turkey. In Turkey itself, as stated, there are at least 50 US nuclear bombs with nuclear "stuffing."
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  1. Sofa General
    Sofa General 6 December 2017 06: 59 New
    14
    Oh, Erdogan apparently cleaned the "Augean" stables, not afraid of another coup attempt ...
    1. siberalt
      siberalt 6 December 2017 07: 14 New
      30
      If Turkey achieves the withdrawal of American nuclear weapons, it will be ahead of European Germany. And this is a strong move in revenge for refusing to join the EU,
      1. Shurik70
        Shurik70 6 December 2017 07: 22 New
        14
        if the United States considers itself to be winners in it, then it’s time to complete actions that look like a continuation of the Cold War

        But nothing that after the end of World War II, the Americans still have not withdrawn their troops from Germany and Japan?
        But I agree. IF they achieve the withdrawal of nuclear weapons, they will indeed be ahead of the whole planet in peace initiatives and reducing tensions.
        1. Cxnumx
          Cxnumx 6 December 2017 07: 29 New
          +6
          Quote: Shurik70
          IF they achieve the withdrawal of nuclear weapons, they will indeed be ahead of the whole planet in peace initiatives and reducing tensions.

          don’t worry, from the point of view of the USA and the EU they can be immediately accused of supporting terrorism and threatening No. 3 for “peace” (after the DPRK with Russia). even the fact that they will not help in NATO))
          1. BABAY22
            BABAY22 6 December 2017 08: 38 New
            +8
            Right now, the Poles will make a fuss about bringing these bombs to them. What if they save from the 4th section of their laying country.
          2. Geisenberg
            Geisenberg 6 December 2017 08: 54 New
            +1
            Quote: K0
            Quote: Shurik70
            IF they achieve the withdrawal of nuclear weapons, they will indeed be ahead of the whole planet in peace initiatives and reducing tensions.

            don’t worry, from the point of view of the USA and the EU they can be immediately accused of supporting terrorism and threatening No. 3 for “peace” (after the DPRK with Russia). even the fact that they will not help in NATO))


            Then it’s not "3", but "4" ... Iran is still there. Iran will be tougher than Turkey in the sense of "threat")))
        2. Geisenberg
          Geisenberg 6 December 2017 08: 56 New
          +1
          Quote: Shurik70
          if the United States considers itself to be winners in it, then it’s time to complete actions that look like a continuation of the Cold War

          But nothing that after the end of World War II, the Americans still have not withdrawn their troops from Germany and Japan?
          But I agree. IF they achieve the withdrawal of nuclear weapons, they will indeed be ahead of the whole planet in peace initiatives and reducing tensions.


          I saw all the facts but made inadequate conclusions. Endos can hold troops anywhere. This does not mean that these troops determine anything other than their own fantasies.
      2. Geisenberg
        Geisenberg 6 December 2017 08: 58 New
        +1
        Quote: siberalt
        If Turkey achieves the withdrawal of American nuclear weapons, it will be ahead of European Germany. And this is a strong move in revenge for refusing to join the EU,


        Make it elementary. You can evict the entire base along with nuclear weapons, they have already evicted the Germans from Inzhirlik ... only the consequences will be very unpleasant for Turkey.
        1. ghby
          ghby 6 December 2017 10: 59 New
          +2
          Quote: Geisenberg
          Make it elementary. You can evict the entire base along with nuclear weapons, they have already evicted the Germans from Inzhirlik ... only the consequences will be very unpleasant for Turkey.

          Do you think that Russian servicemen will behave worse than Americans? laughing
      3. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 6 December 2017 10: 43 New
        +2
        Quote: siberalt
        If Turkey achieves the withdrawal of American nuclear weapons, it will be ahead of European Germany. And this is a strong move in revenge for refusing to join the EU,
        And an even stronger move in revenge of the United States for supporting the Kurds and Ankara’s refusal to extradite Fetullah Gulen.
    2. Logall
      Logall 6 December 2017 07: 15 New
      15
      Because he is afraid, he does so! Ordinary Turks, like citizens of any other country, do not like Americans. Thus, he will enlist their support!
      1. novel66
        novel66 6 December 2017 08: 51 New
        +4
        but are they members of NATO? Is this their holy duty?
        1. FLOOD
          FLOOD 6 December 2017 09: 34 New
          0
          What is the obligation?)) Is the nuclear weapons of the Russian Federation located on the territory of the CSTO member countries or is this the responsibility of the CSTO member countries?)))
          1. novel66
            novel66 6 December 2017 09: 36 New
            +6
            but what does the CSTO have to do with it? NATs have their own rules
      2. Warrior with machine gun
        Warrior with machine gun 6 December 2017 12: 06 New
        +2
        Hi Sanya, here the main thing is to decide what he really wants, and given his "multi-vector nature" and diversity, the result may not be predictable))
    3. Chertt
      Chertt 6 December 2017 07: 18 New
      +4
      God forbid the Turks are neighbors or allies. Like a nonsense woman, the whole brain will endure .....
    4. Antianglosax
      Antianglosax 6 December 2017 10: 23 New
      +6
      Quote: Sofa General
      Oh, Erdogan apparently cleaned the "Augean" stables, not afraid of another coup attempt ...

      Almost the entire population of Russia, with the exception of obvious collaborators and henchmen of the west, has long been waiting for the same from Putin. Only with us this cleaning is a farce and a clowning, so for the excuse ...
    5. Maz
      Maz 6 December 2017 11: 33 New
      0
      Are the Ottomans exactly Turks? Mauger is also Russian? That’s why each man’s dream is to visit the Red Square, learn Russian and marry, if not Russian, then at least Ukrainian laughing
  2. 1331M
    1331M 6 December 2017 07: 00 New
    +6
    Erdogan, it seems, was seriously offended by them. Yes, and let them all bite into his NATO there.
  3. Victor N
    Victor N 6 December 2017 07: 02 New
    +7
    Very reasonable, did not expect.
    1. Esoteric
      Esoteric 6 December 2017 07: 10 New
      +5
      What could not be expected? belay What can the EU and NATO give Erdogan? War and refugee problems. Russia gives gas, Russia can supply the best weapons, can become a trade partner and an active "sponsor" of tourism ... We were not going to fight with Turkey, and moreover, we did not sponsor its enemies ...
  4. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 6 December 2017 07: 06 New
    +2
    Yeah, schasssss laughing And they will withdraw from Turkey, and even more so from Germany.
    God himself appointed America to be the overseer of the world, and therefore, whatever she wants, she will do wassat !
    And here some vassals require something fool
    Neighing from the heart laughing
    1. FLOOD
      FLOOD 6 December 2017 09: 46 New
      +2
      Are you talking about Turkey, do you consider it a vassal? laughing Below is a list of vassals of the Ottoman Empire:
      Prilepsky kingdom (1371–1395)
      Principality of Velbyzhd (1371–1395)
      Byzantine Empire (1373-1394 vassal; 1424-1452 tributary)
      Bulgarian Kingdom (Tarnovo) (1373-1393)
      Dobrudjan principality (1387–1395)
      Moravian Serbia (1390–1402)
      Vukova land (1392-1412)
      Principality of Wallachia (1395-1397, 1417-1861 with interruptions)
      Bulgarian Kingdom (Vidin) (1396-1422)
      Duchy of Saint Sava (1435-1444, 1469-1483)
      Principality of Moldova (1456-1457, 1503-1861 with interruptions)
      The Trebizond Empire (1456–1461 tributary)
      Dubrovnik Republic (1458-1808)
      Crimean Khanate (1478-1774)
      Budzhak Horde (? -1807)
      Edisan Horde (Ukrainian.) (? —1770)
      Edichkul Horde (Ukrainian.) (? —1770)
      Dzhambuilutskaya horde (? —1770)
      Circassian principalities and tribes
      Kabarda (? —1739)
      Khan's Ukraine (Ukrainian.) (1684-1760)
      Lebanon under the rule of the Ma'an dynasties (1516-1697) and Shehab (1697-1840)
      Mecca Sheriffat (English) (1517-1803)
      Principality of Transylvania (1543–1692 intermittently)
      Kingdom of the Abdalvadids (1554–1556)
      Imereti kingdom (1555-1804)
      Principality of Abkhazia (1555-1810)
      Principality of Guria (1555-1804)
      Principality of Megrell (1557-1803)
      Principality of Svaneti (1555-1833)
      Duchy of Naxos (1566–1579)
      Tarkovsky shamshalstvo (1590 — XVII century)
      Right-Bank Hetman (Right-Bank Army Zaporizhzhya) (1669-1683)
      Principality of Upper Hungary under the administration of Imre Tököli (1682–1685)
      Barbarian coast
      Beylik Tunisia (English) (1705-1881)
      Vilayet (Pashlyk) Tripolitania under the control of the Karamanli dynasty (1711-1835)
      Eyalet (Deylik) Algeria (English) (1711-1830)
      Republic of the Seven Islands (1800-1807)
      Principality of Serbia (1817-1830; within the new borders of 1833-1878)
      Principality of Samos (1832-1912)
      The United Principality of Wallachia and Moldova (Romanya Prensliği) (1862-1877)
      Egyptian Khedivat (1867-1914)
      Anglo-Egyptian Sudan (1899-1914)
      State of Qatar (1871-1916)
      Emirate of Jebel Shammar (1876-1921)
      Principality of Bulgaria (Bulgaristan Prensliği) (1878-1908)
      Eastern Rumelia (1878-1908)
      Cretan state (1898-1913)
      North Caucasus Emirate (1919-1920)
    2. FLOOD
      FLOOD 6 December 2017 09: 47 New
      +4
      And now the most interesting:
      In 1786, Thomas Jefferson, the US ambassador to France, and John Adams, the US ambassador to Great Britain, met in London with Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Ajoy, the Caliphate ambassador to England, in order to agree on a peaceful resolution to the conflict. The meeting, however, ended in vain for the United States. In 1793, the United States again ventured to set foot on the water of the Ottoman Caliphate, and this time 12 U.S. naval vessels were captured. In response to this, in March 1794, the American Congress authorized the President of Washington and allocated about 700 gold coins for the construction of strong steel ships. However, this fleet also lost in a clash with the Caliphate fleet. The United States understood the position of the then superpower, and a year later the Berber Treaty was concluded between the United States and the Ottoman Caliphate. Under its terms, the United States was required to pay the Caliphate a one-time payment of $ 000. (in gold) in return for permission to sail the Atlantic Ocean and the Mediterranean Sea and the return of captured ships. In the future, the US government was to contribute another $ 992 in gold and $ 463 in ransom for captured American soldiers. In addition, the United States agreed to pay an annual tax (tribute) of -642 Ottoman gold lire. In addition to these huge taxes, America has agreed at its own expense to build and deliver steel ships to the Caliphate. An interesting fact is that the Ottoman Caliphate affirmed its diplomatic superiority, obliging the United States to pay an annual tribute according to the Islamic calendar, and not the Christian one. In addition, the agreement in accordance with the then status quo was drawn up in the state language of the Caliphate, that is, in Ottoman. The Berber Treaty is the only American legal document concluded in a foreign language, and the only one under which America paid tribute to another people. The first president of the USA George Washington signed the contract.
      Despite the fact that the confrontation came with varying success (it should be noted the success of the Ottoman troops, who managed to capture the flagship of the new American fleet, the frigate Philadelphia), as a result, it turned out to be useless for America. On June 10, 1805, on behalf of the Caliphate, Tripoli Governor Yusuf Karamanli signed a truce with the Americans. As a result of the new treaty, the United States pledged to pay $ 60 for the release of prisoners of war (at the time of the signing of the treaty, 300 Americans were captives in Tripoli, and only 100 Tripoli were captured by the US Army). As for the annual tax, the Jefferson administration was forced to recognize its bindingness in the future. The agreement remained valid until the Ottoman Caliphate was destroyed.

      The full version on the website of IA IslamNews: https://www.islamnews.ru/news-136485.html

      The full version on the website of IA IslamNews: https://www.islamnews.ru/news-136485.html
    3. Warrior with machine gun
      Warrior with machine gun 6 December 2017 12: 13 New
      +2
      the fact that Amersot was appointed to watch the world, they themselves came up with, and now they harness everyone to believe it, but the overgrown, uneducated pastoralists are really poorly suited for this, and they are fed up with everything, any person who thinks with his own head understands that there are more problems from them, than good.
  5. newcomer
    newcomer 6 December 2017 07: 08 New
    +6
    it is normal, but it is unlikely that these 50 bombs will return to yankistan. most likely osyadu somewhere in Romania, or the like; or pumped to South Korea.
    1. Logall
      Logall 6 December 2017 07: 29 New
      11
      Do not be surprised if to Ukraine! But in this case, the Government will become more fond of overseas visits !!!
      Garik hi , good morning!
      1. newcomer
        newcomer 6 December 2017 07: 43 New
        +5
        with a peppy, frosty morning, Alexander. in ukrland nepotodstva_ agreement and all that. but they can throw a dirty bomb. their visits are held in high esteem, only to feed and keep those who wish them less and less. here in the situation inside the circus, everything says that Avakov is not controlled by the “guarantor”, he “screwed up” with Mishiko twice, we will soon expect an appeal to the people from the guarantor from some kind of Washington, or Brussels.
        1. Going
          Going 6 December 2017 08: 28 New
          +5
          Quote: Logall
          Do not be surprised if to Ukraine!


          The United States is certainly arrogant, but that would mean declaring war on us.
      2. Warrior with machine gun
        Warrior with machine gun 6 December 2017 12: 14 New
        +2
        such morons can not be given, they will begin to extinguish each other directly on the Maidan))
  6. insular
    insular 6 December 2017 07: 08 New
    +5
    That's what life-giving tomatoes do ... lol
  7. ImPerts
    ImPerts 6 December 2017 07: 08 New
    0
    Turks to Americans:
    - Take out your tsatskas!
    Americans:
    - No no. What do you? We can not!
    Turks:
    - Then we will leave them to ourselves ...
    American people:

    Joke of course)))
    1. g1washntwn
      g1washntwn 6 December 2017 08: 15 New
      +5
      Turkey: - The United States pick up its nuclear bombs.
      USA: - No, we will not pick them up.
      Russia: - And let's, I’ll take out, we have an action in Eldorado, we are exchanging your old nuclear bombs for S-400.
      1. CAT BAIYUN
        CAT BAIYUN 6 December 2017 09: 56 New
        +7
        We change your old nuclear bombs on the S-400

        Great promotion! laughing
        All marketers will strangle themselves with envy!
  8. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 6 December 2017 07: 08 New
    +3
    withdraw your nuclear weapons
    Erdogan, on a grand scale and in the most painful place of the Americans, can be said below the waist. Breathe deeper American - helps.
    1. novel66
      novel66 6 December 2017 08: 53 New
      +4
      yeah, and jump on the heels!
  9. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 6 December 2017 07: 09 New
    +1
    The demoniac was seriously offended by the shooting of the portrait.
  10. inkass_98
    inkass_98 6 December 2017 07: 14 New
    +5
    The United States clearly did not expect such a scoundrel from Erdogan. All vassals-limitrophies vying to demand the placement of a senior weapon, and here such a pitch from the oldest member of NATO. It’s not good, definitely ...
  11. Herculesic
    Herculesic 6 December 2017 07: 15 New
    +5
    Erdogad, and you just nationalize this weapon! wassat
    1. bald
      bald 6 December 2017 14: 13 New
      0
      And I’m about the same thing - expropriate, they won’t jerk, and sell it to Palestine, Lebanon, well, at least the DPRK (at worst). winked
  12. askort154
    askort154 6 December 2017 07: 24 New
    +1
    We will wait for the next message: On New Year's Eve, 50 American atomic bombs were stolen from the Incirlik base by unidentified persons. The identity of the abductors and the whereabouts of the abducted person have not been established. belay
    1. MadCat
      MadCat 6 December 2017 08: 00 New
      0
      Quote: askort154
      We will wait for the next message: On New Year's Eve, 50 American atomic bombs were stolen from the Incirlik base by unidentified persons. The identity of the abductors and the whereabouts of the abducted person have not been established. belay

      I would look at it, and I also spotted on the stopwatch the life of the President of Turkey after that, there is a flight time for the drone for several minutes
  13. unignm
    unignm 6 December 2017 08: 19 New
    0
    so yes they wrote here sho dumb at the Turk vigorously Tipo exported sho bleh?
  14. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 6 December 2017 08: 34 New
    +1
    Did the USSR give the right to use nuclear weapons to our allies? in the NTO in case of war with us, the German Air Force will fly to us with the American TNW.
  15. Geisenberg
    Geisenberg 6 December 2017 08: 52 New
    0
    From this I understand !!! And after all they say everything correctly !!
  16. Romanenko
    Romanenko 6 December 2017 09: 36 New
    +1
    In general, he is a very interesting character, this Recep Taipovich.
    It will run over some, then others. From extreme to extreme.
    It’s for the “whites”, then for the “reds” ... The old man is painfully unstable.
  17. bratchanin3
    bratchanin3 6 December 2017 10: 10 New
    0
    It would be a good kick to the tailbone of the Americans - a good blow to pride.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 6 December 2017 10: 36 New
      +3
      Would be, that's what we will see.
      From "hate" to "love" is one step!
      It seems to me that this is a very good reason to bargain, but emigrants are also a serious argument for geyropa.
      Erdogan's deck of trumps is full, who can beat him? However, the Yankees also always have such a convincing argument -COLT- at the time of sesba, if it is also put to the head ??? someone's cards may be bits.
      For the geyropu ... everything was sour, only money, there’s nothing more to threaten, except with a finger.
      1. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 6 December 2017 11: 22 New
        +2
        Quote: rocket757
        a good reason to bargain, however emigrants, too, such a serious argument for gayropy.

        Duc, Europe is on the side here. Presented to mattresses, which before Europe somehow ... Especially since they (mattresses) have withdrawn from the agreement on migration. So that
        Quote: rocket757
        For the geyropu ... everything is sour,
        yes
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 6 December 2017 12: 56 New
          +4
          With all the current gazes, they are used to \ forced to live under the wing of the Yankees, almost a "beloved wife."
          So let’s see what makes them “sourer”, from Erdogan’s assaults or from the care / pressure of the Yankers.
          After all, to us, too, not everything is soooooo! spray is flying in all directions, but at least it’s unpleasant.
          For the maximum, we’ll see the identity, but we won’t be squandered by anyone.
  18. Cheldon
    Cheldon 6 December 2017 11: 44 New
    +1
    Quote: Maz
    Are the Ottomans exactly Turks? Mauger is also Russian? That’s why each man’s dream is to visit the Red Square, learn Russian and marry, if not Russian, then at least Ukrainian laughing

    There, the genotype is so diluted with Slavic blood over centuries of dominion, which is not surprising.
    1. Romanenko
      Romanenko 6 December 2017 11: 52 New
      +2
      They themselves diluted as best they could - the elite troops Janissaries were practically from the Slavs, so that the fighters did not feel homesickness and family, the Janissaries preferred to bring up children who were stolen from the occupied regions or posed by the Crimean Tatars who were raiding Russia.
      Of course, many Janissaries perished in the battles, but they left a considerable amount of genetic “memory" in Turkey. So the Turks have a serious Slavic-Armenian-Seljuk compote there
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 6 December 2017 12: 57 New
        +3
        Compote he is compote, but the nature of trading is not soaked.
  19. bald
    bald 6 December 2017 14: 11 New
    0
    And the best thing is to block and expropriate - they will not do anything with Ankara.
  20. Sergey53
    Sergey53 6 December 2017 15: 48 New
    0
    Point Trump to pick them up on that date. Do not pick up, privatize. What was the matter?
  21. faterdom
    faterdom 6 December 2017 15: 48 New
    +1
    Now the IOC will cause scratches on Turkish tubes. Together with Vada. Just don’t think, America has nothing to do with it ...
  22. 1536
    1536 7 December 2017 15: 35 New
    0
    That is right. And from the territory of Turkey, and from the territory of Germany.
    Stop keeping the world at bay. Russia was the "gendarme of Europe" in the second quarter of the 19th century. Great Britain even earlier. France was barely pacified with all its revolutions. In Germany, the gendarme formats acquired hypertrophied forms, resulting in Nazism, which claimed tens of millions of lives.
    The USA is a state without roots, without history, and they don’t want to know someone else’s history. They want one thing: to act out as a drunk sheriff and terrorize the entire population of the planet. Well, well, if they follow the path of Britain or ours. And when you consider that they have clans with German roots in power, then the danger increases many times over. Patients with such "childhood diseases" must be quarantined, sanitized and brought back to life.
  23. FLOOD
    FLOOD 11 December 2017 07: 43 New
    0
    Quote: Romanenko
    They themselves diluted as they could - the elite troops of the Janissaries were practically from the Slavs, ...
    Of course, many Janissaries perished in the battles, but they left a considerable amount of genetic “memory" in Turkey. So the Turks have a serious Slavic-Armenian-Seljuk compote there

    enough arrra ... made me laugh ... first, at least browse the Internet (but not on the wiki, this is your resource) how and from whom the enichari were formed, they all got it already ..
  24. Qwazar Qwazar
    Qwazar Qwazar 11 December 2017 09: 12 New
    +1
    Turkey is a NATO member country that has atomic bombs on Ingerlic ... bombs, by the way, can be used by a country without developed infrastructure for use, unlike rocket technology ...
    Let's say nuclear missiles, the country that captured them will not be able to use any range - at best, dismantle the poison. charge, if the scientific potential is enough ... And with bombs another garbage, called - FOR FREE!
    1. Qwazar Qwazar
      Qwazar Qwazar 11 December 2017 09: 13 New
      +1
      Just load on the plane and screw the detonator tube * ROFL * ...
      And Turkey bought the S-400 (which the truth has not yet been delivered but already paid) easily blocking Inzherdik ... Oh, how everything spins fun :)))) ...
      Given the fact that the United States supports the Kurds and supplies weapons to Peshmerg, promising them the creation of free Kurdistan in part of the territory of Syria-Iraq-Iran and Turkey’s attention !!!! - still more interesting than it might seem at first glance:)))) ...
      I see only one goal of the purchase of S-400 by Turkey - the possibility of an opportunistic hijacking of US nuclear bombs, because the S-400 does not integrate in Turkey's CIUS, and in this sense the American THAAD is more profitable to use, despite its worst performance compared to the S-400 because as part of the BIUS - he will win back from our complex, which is "one in the field warrior" ...
      Notice - I didn’t say capture poison. US bombs, I said OPPORTUNITY TO CAPTURE ... - that is, blackmail is in the first place :)))) - the east is a delicate matter:))) ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 11 December 2017 09: 50 New
        +3
        All this is fantastic and yes, the east is a delicate matter!