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Russia allowed to act under a white rag

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To begin with, the well-known motto “O sport, you are the world!” Is forgotten, because today it sounds like “O sport, you are a profit!” Moreover, it’s quite a good financial and political one. It is the political component that pushes the world's bigwigs from sports to the “exploits” that we are seeing.




Well done in the west. They understand perfectly well that in Russia sportsmen are something like a national treasure. Especially great athletes, such as Karelin, Isinbayeva, Dementieva and others.

Therefore, they beat below the belt. Blaming without proof, but there's nothing you can do. First, we do not set these rules, we play for others, and second, we ourselves have given enough reasons for the accusations.

You know, I probably would sympathize with our athletes. The main majority, I hope, really became hostages of political games.

And it is clear why the figures from sports always and at all times were really overly picky to our athletes. We are all smart people, we understand where our legs grow from.

As for doping, then everything is outrageously simple. Big sport, in which huge money is spinning, is all built on doping. What kind of honesty can we talk about when such amounts are involved? That's just funny. A fairy tale for kids, such as about honest oligarchs or finance ministers.

I fully admit the possibility that all these dances around RUSADA are pure provocation of Western intelligence services against Russia. And the exposer of the "doping plot" Grigory Rodchenkov is a traitor, a scoundrel, a liar and a scum who creates trouble for Russia for full-fledged dollars and American citizenship. He is not the first such. And not the last for sure: fecal personalities in stories there is plenty of any country, and Russia is no exception.

But the reputation of our state, specifically those who rule the country (and here we are talking not about Putin, but about the legion that sits at a lower level) is such that to believe this legion, but at the same time the state media (we will not point the finger at television) - is not respecting yourself.

When the reputation of the leading media and TV channels in particular is below the baseboard, it is quite possible that there are also not quite honest people there. And that there just entrenched vile personalities and liars, and Rodchenkov - an honest man who decided to bring all of them in bulk to clean water.

May be? Is complete.

It is clear that in the West with the presence of the FSB in the doping fraud slightly outplayed. But they have made it this way for their own people: if there is a scandal, then special services must be mandatory. Otherwise, there is nothing to make a fuss. So it’s crazy and stupid for us, and there it’s just right.

But then forgive me if all of us are so white and fluffy, where are the disgraced and slandered champions-athletes and their coaches? I mean sports walkers. Quietly and without scandals and statements in the press who PSG wrote, who was fired, who hung the stud on the nail.

On the whole, everyone is innocent, the guilty have already been pushed away in the corners, it remains a surprise that we have so many complaints and regret about the tarnished reputation. Because after all caught some.

But reputation is difficult. Especially in the scale of the state. She, reputation, not from the ceiling falls. She falls without going into orbit through the fault of the storekeeper. She falls along with downed Su-24. And with the flow of Turkish mandarins, again flooded the markets.

Reputation is earned over the years, and is lost somewhat faster. Especially if it is sacrificed to the "hochunchik". Whose? Yes, too, everything is clear.

We want, you know, the Olympics. Or World Cup. The benefits will be the car. Roads, infrastructure, facilities. Well, as the road M4 gash to this Olympics, to tell, I think, do not. Skated on it repeatedly, a year later. Appreciated. Now for the World Cup remake.

And without the super show in any way? Just build roads, stadiums? Hotels? Sochi was the most expensive resort, and remained. Even more expensive.

Indeed, lordly games. Let's skolkov zapilim? And on time! The whole world will tell how cool we are. Have told. It remains now to give the mind and explain plainly why all this and how the money will fight back.

Well, such examples - the sea. As in the cartoon about Sharik and Barbosa: “I want to - I do nothing, I am lying on the sofa!”

I want - and the Academy of Zhukovsky and Gagarin goes to Voronezh. And the headquarters of the ZVO, the former MVO - in Peter. From Peter it is easier to lead troops in the Belgorod and Kursk regions, of course. And the leadership of the Navy away from the Ministry of Defense. Also in Peter. And the Constitutional Court there too. Moscow - she's not a rubber ...

And the money for all this is necessary. And here is Plato, here is the excise on gas, here is the tax. The Legion needs money for "hot chicks."

And when soberly (so far) you observe this nonsense, for some reason there is no desire to believe in the triumph of purity and justice.

But this nonsense multiplies and multiplies. As plans for medals at the Olympics. Do not be silly, no? It is clear that it is necessary to estimate the chances, you can even voice them. And always on Channel One so that the whole world can hear. And then, quietly so, in a half-whisper, when these plans once again cover themselves with a copper basin: “Well, I didn’t bumble, I couldn’t.”

But you want the boyars before the king-father to report loudly. Say, here, were planning 12 gold medals, and took thirteen! We are great, just done everything and even exceeded it! Praise us king!

It would be for that — probably, I would praise ... But the trouble is not for anything. Never in my humble memory did not fulfill this stupid plan. Even in Sochi, it seems.

But with Sochi after the loud "success" of ours in Vancouver, the whole world thought: why is this all of a sudden? Native walls helped or what? Pondered and found "what else." Thanks to all.

It is clear that for once we have been given the opportunity to hold an Olympic show, we must show the whole world. At any price. Showed.

It is unlikely that Vladimir Vladimirovich so directly set the task (and maybe he did, I don’t know), but at any price he fulfilled it.

And in the West, the knights of the cloak and the dagger saw that sport is also a "hot boy." Found, bastards, sore spot. And thrashed from the heart. And fall.

And there, in the West, do not care that everyone gets under the distribution. This is a war of one system with another. And it must either accept and accept, or ...

We turn to the second part. And what, in fact, to do when that's how it happens?

When I wrote all this, there was no solution for our team. But it is already clear what it was about. To white rag. The symbol of defeat. As in the past summer games.

Humiliating to ugliness. No country, no flag, no hymn. The third grade will admit, out of pity.

It is worth noting that under a white rag, which used to be the Olympic flag, you can perform:
- stateless athletes;
- citizens of unrecognized states;
- to athletes who cannot act under the flag of their country for political convictions.

Choose, as they say. For every taste.

And now there is a moment for which I spoke about the authorities. How they will behave. And how our athletes will behave who will be allowed to play.

I express an opinion (not only my own) that if the country's leadership does not agree with the political chaos that suits us under the guise of a struggle for the integrity and purity of sport, that Russia as a country simply MUST ignore such rudeness.

There is no Russian flag and anthem - there is no national team.

And here is a little such aspect. No team - no contributions to the IOC. Hang out further, fight for cleanliness with Williams sisters and consumptive Norwegian skiers and biathletes. At their expense.

In the image and likeness of the PACE need to act. Those won as they yelled when they were not given any money. Immediately thoughtful.

How does the IOC differ from the PACE? She still Sharashkin office.

They disqualify us for pride, we can afford them in dollars. And see who will take.

But for this, the ruling not steel testicles should be, and iron cores. But it will be a symmetrical answer. Yes, in this case, there are any other sanctions, but who will scare you with sanctions?

Of course, now there will be pink snot let some athletes. Well, we have been preparing all our life, but it’s impossible ... Pity us ...

And here's a way out. If the money that is for participation from the IOC and sponsors-advertisers is due to each participant is more important than respect for the Motherland - not a question. There is a white rag for capitulators. Participate. No flag, no anthem, no homeland. For the loot. Forward.

An athlete who represents his country at games like the Olympic show is primarily a person representing his country. With all its attributes, whatever it is. We do not choose a homeland. So - a patriot.

An athlete who is willing to humiliate himself before marching under a white rag for the sake of his profits is not a patriot. He is not a member of the Russian national team, he does not represent Russia. He represents his interests. It is simply a participant in the Olympic Games. Mercenary for extras.

Let's see how much they understand this in the Kremlin. How many patriots are there. Especially before the election.

Already in many media began to argue that a lot of money the state has spent on preparing and creating the image of the country. Need to repel? Or maybe enough already?

In Skolkovo vbabahali more, if that. As well as in other "hochunchik".

But many have already begun to emit moans on the fact that the boycott of the Olympic Sabbath almost destroy our sport. Yes, it does not destroy the political boycott, but the fact that our officials from the sport, Mutko and Zhukov, do not want to do anything to protect normal athletes. And this whole crazy story with RUSADA is entirely on their conscience.

If we are talking about the fact that Russia is a great country, including in sports, then everything related to this and other issues should be considered only from this position.

All this devilry, which staged the enemies of sports with doping and exclusion, ends with an attempt to humiliate the whole country. The country is obliged to respond. The country is reacting. On sites and live broadcasts from 62% to 87% of respondents for a boycott of disgrace, by chance still bears the name of the Olympic Games.

Vladimir Vladimirovich, your way out!

Who, if not the president, is obliged to protect the honor and dignity of the country, which the scoundrels from sports are trying to trample in the dirt? Equate citizens of great Russia to stateless persons or citizens of unrecognized states? Replace our flag with an incomprehensible white rag? Anthem sad and slurred chant?

I hope that we will not hear anything like "athletes are not to blame." That's right, it's not the athletes who are to blame, your officials are to blame. Yours We did not choose them. For Mutko did not vote.

So, as expected, the IOC confirmed not only that Russian athletes are ALLOWED to perform under a white rag, but also the fact that there will be a special commission to select these lucky ones.

What she will be guided there, I do not know, but I know and understand that this is another slap in the face to us all. And, perhaps, pretty already. Enough to substitute the other cheek, everything is clear that the world and European championships will follow the Olympics. The occasion is created.

To the devil, this whole IOC, which was bought by politicians on the vine. And there are our contributions.

By the way, that's just the money saved and to put in support of those athletes who planned to earn extra money for a comfortable old age.

Since Russia still does not get anything from their speeches, except for moral satisfaction, the results will not go to any offset, then, in principle, there is nothing to catch there, on the Sabbath. All the same, they would sue, as they had previously sued.

Russia is obliged to answer precisely tough. Just send them all and boycott the games of the politicians. I really want it to be that way. How would another great country, whose "athletes" eat everything they give and perform, nonetheless. With impunity.

But greatness is not only impunity. Greatness is also in not becoming on a par with those who spit in your face. And do not sit on one hectare.

I hope that the leadership understands this, and we will see really decisive, tough and symmetrical measures.

The whole world must understand that the Russians really do not give up.
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  1. Sergey-svs
    Sergey-svs 6 December 2017 06: 19 New
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    I hope that the leadership understands this, and we will see really decisive, tough and symmetrical measures. The whole world must understand that the Russians really do not give up.

    In general, the worst doping is the flag of the Russian Federation! fool The rest is vitamins. yes
    1. Nicholas C.
      Nicholas C. 6 December 2017 07: 23 New
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      Judging by the bleating of Zhukov, Mutko, they, hanging their ears on the traditional Western Jesuit deception with promises in the future, today betrayed Russian sport.
      If this is not so, then today there must be an adequate answer.
      Or the resignation of these and other incompetent, useless, meaningless sports officials.
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      2. vovanpain
        vovanpain 6 December 2017 08: 50 New
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        You can spit on Kadyrov as you wish, but his actions are much better and more noble than our bastards and bugs.
        1. My address
          My address 6 December 2017 09: 04 New
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          Totally agree with you.
          But after the command of the Kremlin, our wise and beetles will wipe away. And all okolosportivnye pro-government and pro-Western liberals will say that we need to wipe. I don’t understand what is more disgusting to me - liberal anti-Russian memorials, or kneeling towards the West of Elita.
          Satanovsky is right in saying:
          The Americans, signing the contract with the Indians, never honored them. What kind of devil should they have signed a contract with us (with the Russian Federation) to fulfill it? We for them, for the West, are real Indians, and we do not understand this, thinking that we are partners for them.
          1. Kudrevkn
            Kudrevkn 6 December 2017 12: 16 New
            +9
            I agree with you and Mr. Satanovsky - "Papuans" !? But now another point is interesting - will Zhukov, Kozak and Mutko find the courage to resign?
            1. Lexus
              Lexus 6 December 2017 12: 56 New
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              Have you ever tried a pig during a feeding from food to drive away? lol
              1. solovald
                solovald 8 December 2017 05: 46 New
                +1
                Very figuratively and, most importantly, to the point!
            2. passing
              passing 6 December 2017 13: 15 New
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              will find the courage of Zhukov, Kozak and Mutko to resign

              What are you? What is the resignation?
              Have you ever tried a pig during a feeding from food to drive away?
              This is well noticed!
              You heard yesterday that you bleated bugs on a pre-access: but after all, the Mok allowed our athletes to participate as Russians, even under the white flag, he writes this for himself plus!
              1. Alena Frolovna
                Alena Frolovna 6 December 2017 14: 24 New
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                Have you ever tried a pig during a feeding from food to drive away?


                The horror takes from how many traitors go to where the Russians are not allowed illegally.
                Towards Olympic records
                1. Mih1974
                  Mih1974 6 December 2017 18: 50 New
                  +9
                  The right biathlon

                  bully Let Sudoku Shoigu talk about doping and about "inadmissibility" tongue soldier .
            3. Bosch
              Bosch 6 December 2017 15: 57 New
              +1
              Who will let them go?
            4. user
              user 7 December 2017 19: 32 New
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              Reputation is earned over the years, and is lost somewhat faster.


              If the VP in this situation leaves everything as it is, i.e. if he doesn’t react firmly, taking care of pure athletes and sports in the Russian Federation, it’s interesting to see the results of the 2018 elections, our people do not all live behind the hill and their reaction will be directly opposite to the Russian officials from sports.

              Vladimir Vladimirovich, your way out!


              I hope that the leadership understands this, and we will see really decisive, tough and symmetrical measures.
          2. My_log_in
            My_log_in 6 December 2017 15: 39 New
            +1
            Today on Vesti-FM, in the program "from 2 to 5" Satanovsky said that he was for going to the Olympics. In any status. True, he added that "... to go and break everyone ...". I think that with the "break" got excited ...
            1. aybolyt678
              aybolyt678 6 December 2017 19: 13 New
              +4
              parvem !! and then we’ll find a dope, in a year
        2. Stas157
          Stas157 6 December 2017 09: 47 New
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          Three, Zhukov, Zagitova and Smirnov went to apologize before the meeting of the IOC and very much asked not to forbid Russia to speak at the Olympics. Then, after the meeting, all three were beaten, and Zhukov says that an unprecedentedly tough decision was made to ban Russia from playing at the Olympics! And, right away, it’s getting better that the IOC’s decision could be even tougher, they could prevent the athletes from performing under the white flag! By this, Zhukov, as it were, made it clear that the decision of the IOC, as it were acceptable for Russia, could have been worse ...
          It was very unpleasant to look at all this shame, and at the justification of this trinity, as they mentioned several times, that: "They listened to us! They gave us a calm voice!"
          Or maybe enough already apologize and make excuses for what Russia is not to blame? Maybe you didn’t have to go with an apology to the IOC at all? After all, the solution from this did not get better. The IOC’s decision to allow athletes to compete under the white flag is even worse. It is humiliating. It splits our society into parts! Well, to top it off, like a mockery - an offer to pay $ 15 million. for public spanking!
          1. serriy
            serriy 6 December 2017 10: 04 New
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            Athletes without a flag - in fact, they will see everything at the Olympics country without flag. This is not just a shame - they will show how the country is subtly erased from the world map. Not pathos, not a joke.

            Zhukov's speech is published, read. Disgusting. To us, these people, vested with power in the country, the decision makers, say one thing, THERE - HE HAS PUT ALL DOGS TO THE COUNTRY.

            And they will go. BUT! Athletes under the white flag will not represent OUR COUNTRY, they will not be OUR OLYMPIANS!
            1. DMB_95
              DMB_95 6 December 2017 11: 30 New
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              Quote: serriy
              Athletes without a flag - in fact, they will see everything at the Olympics country without flag. Disgusting.
              And they will go. BUT! Athletes under the white flag will not represent OUR COUNTRY, they will not be OUR OLYMPIANS!

              It is necessary to deprive Russian citizenship of those who go to this infamous "Olympics". Where is the official reaction of the top leadership of the state ?! Yesterday, we had to officially and sharply refuse to participate in this disgrace. Themselves. And if we were condescendingly allowed to speak? That would be worse and more humiliating.
              1. passing
                passing 6 December 2017 13: 19 New
                +4
                It is necessary to deprive Russian citizenship of those who go to this infamous "Olympics"

                Well, so tough maybe not worth it?
                Let them go, BUT at their own expense! Or they’re looking for sponsors. Here Gazprom let Echo Matsi close and redirect the money to support the Olympians. In another case, enterprises with state participation should not participate in this.
                1. 2ez
                  2ez 6 December 2017 15: 01 New
                  +4
                  As we quickly got used to, that all sorts of companies like Gazprom are not a PUBLIC heritage ...
            2. yashka12007
              yashka12007 7 December 2017 18: 20 New
              +1
              It’s very insulting for the country, but even more insulting that there are so many scum in the country called itself athletes. ready to speak at least under the swastika.
          2. ddd1975
            ddd1975 6 December 2017 11: 11 New
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            ... nothing to add! Only now in the IOC (like other offices) it's time not to go, to enter the BTR ...
            1. sa-ag
              sa-ag 8 December 2017 10: 24 New
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              Quote: ddd1975
              nothing to add! Only now in the IOC (like other offices) it’s time not to go, to drive on an armored personnel carrier ..

              About 50 tactical nuclear strikes already? :-)
          3. AA17
            AA17 6 December 2017 11: 58 New
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            Dear, Stas157. (I'm just torn apart by emotions). Our officials "from sports" (Mutko- "minder", Zhukov-economist-mathematician) did not realize what a failure it would be for Russia (a ban for Russia to speak at the 2018 Olympics). This is a catastrophe. Many young people go in for sports professionally. These are people (to a greater extent have healthy genes). In order to perform at the next Olympic Games, these athletes will be forced to leave Russia and obtain other citizenship, because they do not know how. Sport is their profession. Leaving will be the BEST and PERSPECTIVE. Many sports experts say, Russia will require, in the future, many humiliating concessions so that her team can speak at the next Olympic Games under its own flag. Hence the question, where is the work of our glorious FSB (the assignee of the punishing sword of the state in the person of the KGB of the USSR). All accusations against Russia were based on the testimony of ALL ONE PERSON. This is "... the whistleblower" of the doping conspiracy "Grigory Rodchenkov - a traitor, a scoundrel, a liar and creating trouble for Russia ...". Why they couldn’t buy it (give him 1 billion greenery to shut up. Or it was a pity for the money. They could arrange a bribe to Ulyukaev).
            Blackmail (Relatives in Russia. Yes, I am cruel if it comes to the future of Russia). Well, etc. I think in the arsenal of the FSB there are many tools for solving important tasks.
            P.S. In the meantime, all this shows the complete incompetence of our officials at all levels of economic management in our country. All ministers do not have specialized education (i.e. the required knowledge, with some exceptions). An incorrect (incompetent) analysis of the facts leads to an incorrect (incompetent) assessment of the problem.
            1. Alf
              Alf 6 December 2017 22: 33 New
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              Quote: AA17
              P.S. In the meantime, all this shows the complete incompetence of our officials at all levels of economic management in our country. All ministers do not have specialized education (i.e. the required knowledge, with some exceptions).

              And who put them on these posts ???
            2. jhltyjyjctw
              jhltyjyjctw 21 December 2017 02: 44 New
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              Quote: AA17
              Leaving will be the BEST and PERSPECTIVE.


              The best and most promising work in Syria and other important places. Do we need a sport of high achievements? The USSR is thirty years old, until 1952. did not participate in these games. This did not stop us from defeating Germany and becoming a Superpower. It is necessary to officially declare that the released funds will be spent on the defense industry. More missiles will fly further.
          4. uskrabut
            uskrabut 6 December 2017 12: 05 New
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            Quote: Stas157
            It was very unpleasant to look at all this shame, and at the excuses of this trinity


            And we have all this power, stealing shugano. It’s scary to speak in the USA, otherwise the house in the states will be taken away, the bill will be arrested, a child will be seized for the ass
            1. Kent0001
              Kent0001 6 December 2017 13: 21 New
              +3
              You are right, unfortunately.
          5. Kudrevkn
            Kudrevkn 6 December 2017 12: 19 New
            +5
            Another MARSHAL ZHUKOV Georgy Konstantinovich also calmly listened to Yodel and Keitel, who signed the Act on the unconditional surrender of Germany !?
          6. 97110
            97110 6 December 2017 13: 43 New
            +5
            Quote: Stas157
            By this, Zhukov, as it were, made it clear that the decision of the IOC, as it were acceptable for Russia, could have been worse ...

            He opened a box ... Chorus, in kind, the CHORUS sings in unison that we were ALLOWED to go under (almost wrote "my") the RI trade flag at the closing of the Olympic Games. Soloed Guberniev and more talents. They would dare, if there were no silent acceptance, do you know whom? Well, the currency instead of the per diem is also important ...
          7. aybolyt678
            aybolyt678 6 December 2017 19: 14 New
            +4
            It would be cool if Russian athletes would personally announce a boycott !!
        3. Ural resident
          Ural resident 6 December 2017 11: 32 New
          +1
          there, in my opinion, only one Chechen was going to go ...
        4. sergey32
          sergey32 6 December 2017 11: 53 New
          +7
          Comrades, our athletes are not only citizens of Russia, but also citizens of the Union State of Russia and Belarus. I suggest sending them to the Olympics as citizens of the Union. Soviet flag and anthem.
        5. goblin xnumx
          goblin xnumx 9 December 2017 10: 20 New
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          take the words back, Putin will order ...
      3. Varyag_0711
        Varyag_0711 6 December 2017 09: 01 New
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        Why are we all surprised. Today, Tarasova, the daughter of that same legendary coach of CSKA and the USSR national hockey team Anatoly Tarasov, glared that they didn’t need that with the athletes. One must be sympathetic to their choice. What to take from this venal daughter of the legendary coach, if her entire business is abroad. She trains Western athletes by selling the school of figure skating that she did not create for years and which before the collapse of the USSR had no equal. The same applies to Wiener, and even tens, or even hundreds of coaches and athletes. They have not represented our country for a very long time, they represent themselves personally.
        I really want to see the reaction of our super-duper patriot Alexander Ovechkin, who loudly stated that he would go to the Olympics in spite of any NHL bans. Well...?! Who will he play for now? For an incomprehensible team, under a white rag of national humiliation of Russia?
        I declare, as a citizen of Russia, who has every right to have an opinion, since our sport is also included in my money, I AM AGAINST THE PARTICIPATION OF RUSSIA IN THIS SHOWER NAMED UNDER THE IOC AND THE OLYMPIC GAMES !!! As they are, these are not games, these are games with cheaters, on their card table, with their marked cards, according to their own rules, when any of your trumps beats with any opponent’s card from a deuce and higher. I am opposed to the fact that athletes and sports officials humiliate me and my country, substituting themselves as whipping blanks. They want to go, let them go, BUT they do not speak on behalf of Russia and do not call themselves Russian athletes. Sport has already died long ago, loot remains, so why the hell is SUCH a sport for us?
        1. vovanpain
          vovanpain 6 December 2017 09: 20 New
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          Quote: My address
          We are for them, for the West, real Indians, but we do not understand this, thinking that we are partners for them.

          Quote: Varyag_0711
          They want to go, let them go, BUT they do not speak on behalf of Russia and do not call themselves Russian athletes.

          Absolutely so friends drinks hi Churchill was right a thousand times
          The war has been going on for a long time, so we’ll get a shame under the white rag surrendering to the athletes who went. hi
          1. Varyag_0711
            Varyag_0711 6 December 2017 09: 25 New
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            Vladimir, hi absolutely true colleague! We have already received shame, and the war has been going on for a long time, just not yet in our territory. Yes, here’s the trouble, I don’t see yet in the war neither Stalin, nor Zhukov and Rokossovsky, but there’s more than that of the Vlasovs. Apparently 1941 did not teach us anything. Straight pichal-bida. crying
            1. Bakht
              Bakht 6 December 2017 12: 04 New
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              The match between Russia and Germany. Score 2-0 in favor of the Germans.
              - Guys! - shout the stands tipsy grandfather-veteran. We drenched them near Stalingrad, Kiev, Kursk, and you bastards, disgrace us! A Georgian sitting nearby remarks:
              “Then you, grandfather, had another trainer.”
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          2. Kent0001
            Kent0001 6 December 2017 11: 24 New
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            You tell the tsar this, otherwise the feeling is not very good about his ownership of the situation in the country (in fact, not just a joke). And if you listen to him with the boyars, then everything is just fine with us, and in all directions.
          3. Krabik
            Krabik 6 December 2017 16: 01 New
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            Many athletes have long been not our athletes; they work, live and perform abroad.

            And for some reason they are being dragged to our team.

            The same hockey players, it is clear that in the United States Ovechkin no one will take their own lambs there for the Olympics.

            Or the same Sharapova, well, why should she give the flag of the country when she has long been an American, I do not understand.

            With this filthy behavior, the sports leadership does not allow young people to compete at their athletes.

            It would be better if our young hockey players would have lost than the American Ovechkin flying the flag of Russia!
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          5. iouris
            iouris 12 December 2017 11: 30 New
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            Quote: vovanpain
            and we’ll get a shame under a white rag surrendering to the athletes who went.

            The Russian Federation did not come to war. The sports entrepreneur does not have a fatherland, but works only for himself. We need a result at all costs, because a contract has been concluded with the advertiser.
        2. johnik
          johnik 6 December 2017 09: 57 New
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          No! We don’t need such hockey !!!
        3. Starik72
          Starik72 6 December 2017 13: 57 New
          +5
          I agree with you Varyag_0711! Boycott the Olympics! Those athletes who go to the Olympics will spit in the face of the working PEOPLE. Which creates all the conditions for their life, training and improvement, as well as sick and wishes them to win the competition. So before you go, let them think carefully.
          1. Gardamir
            Gardamir 6 December 2017 14: 20 New
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            Spitting in the face of the working PEOPLE
            you are probably a supporter of the oligarchs and officials, if so they are fenced off? In Russia, nobody is interested in the opinion of the working people. And officials have created such a situation. And now they wash their hands vilely, such as athletes decide for themselves, but if you go, you spat in the face of the working people
            1. Starik72
              Starik72 6 December 2017 22: 08 New
              +1
              And why did you get that I am a supporter of the oligarchs and officials? And you are clearly a supporter of the oligarchy and officials, and therefore you are Gardamir, you simply wipe your handkerchief when they spit at you, like the same officials from sports.
        4. Vita vko
          Vita vko 6 December 2017 14: 14 New
          +5
          Quote: Varyag_0711
          They want to go, let them go, BUT they don’t act on behalf of Russia and do not call themselves Russian athletes

          The main thing is that these "athletes":
          1. We drove at our own expense.
          2. The court returned the money that Russia spent on their preparation.
          3. Were excluded from the Russian teams, which are financed from the budget.
        5. vlad_vlad
          vlad_vlad 6 December 2017 14: 21 New
          +5
          Wangyu: Putin will say, "Well, 1. that means we’ll go without a flag 2. Quickly chide and promote”
          ... and all resentful on this site will also agree with this, because this is a cunning plan of Putin. and, in general, the King has nothing to do with it. Well, just not at business.
        6. andrej-shironov
          andrej-shironov 6 December 2017 14: 58 New
          +1
          Dear Varangian! I plus you. But I want to add: neither your vote nor mine nor anyone else here present will have ANY influence on the Guarantor’s decision, coupled with the government.
        7. aybolyt678
          aybolyt678 6 December 2017 19: 17 New
          0
          Quote: Varyag_0711
          She coaches western athletes selling that figure skating school

          Borders must be closed, the state must protect its markets and secrets ... Whatever liberal Putin says.
      4. horhe48
        horhe48 6 December 2017 11: 09 New
        12
        You are right. Judging by the slurred mumble of Zhukov, he and comp. they’ve already decided to wipe themselves again. They’re at least *** in the eyes, all of God's dew. (As well as posts, loot, etc. Well, at least one of them would have taken for fun and resigned. As they say, not wait.) Moreover, as he said, if de this time we will behave quietly (i.e., as we are already prescribed from the states themselves), the Russian Olympic Committee under his command and will be forgiven himself Togo. They will also allow me to wear a uniform and at the close with my flag they will be allowed to pass. (Here it is happiness and great mercy, which we do not deserve). So, they will deceive you this time, how to drink. In a swoop, they’ll figure something out again. They will take out from the sleeve the next official who has gone over for bucks from the sport and everything will spin again. The logic here is this - repent of what you did not (i.e., in the state doping program), and we will forgive you de. And then they will say: Well, what other evidence do you need? You yourself admitted everything. So you lied to us all the time and you're lying. Because to deal with you is not to respect yourself and no decent person, athlete, official, politician, etc. they will not deal with you.
      5. Sinbad
        Sinbad 6 December 2017 11: 32 New
        +3
        "As you call the boat, so it will float" - turbidity and horror (joke).
      6. NEXUS
        NEXUS 6 December 2017 13: 21 New
        10
        Quote: Nikolay S.
        Or the resignation of these and other incompetent, useless, meaningless sports officials.

        We were invited to play under the white flag, that is, under the flag of obviously losers. They banned the anthem, symbolism ... that is, de facto, we are forced to abandon our state (I’m not only about athletes, but about the citizens of the Russian Federation in general), our history, our victories and our identity.
        The refusal of our athletes from the symbolism of their homeland and anthem is a refusal of their first name, last name and patronymic, from their history, from their victories and from their truth.
      7. Normal ok
        Normal ok 7 December 2017 00: 09 New
        0
        Quote: Nikolay S.
        Judging by the bleating of Zhukov, Mutko, they, hanging their ears on the traditional Western Jesuit deception with promises in the future, today betrayed Russian sport.

        Judging by the bleating of Zhukov, Mutko, they perfectly understand that the stigma in the cannon.
      8. nikolaev
        nikolaev 10 December 2017 19: 42 New
        0
        OIs are already out of date. We live in a new supersport reality: the result of the competition is decided in the silence of the offices of WADA and the IOC - so think-not-mouse: the national team of the most democratic country in the world — the United States — will win. The Olympic Games should already be held under the new Super Olympic Games brand and according to a unique (hitherto unreasoned technology): 1 announced the beginning of SDI, 2 held a vote in the quiet of rooms, 3 announced the result: "the US team won" - everyone is happy and happy: democracy won at its highest
    2. Boris55
      Boris55 6 December 2017 07: 49 New
      17
      "Judge them according to their works"
      A patriot is not the one who shouts the loudest: “Forward Russia!”, This is, first of all, actions.
      1. Victor N
        Victor N 6 December 2017 10: 12 New
        +5
        Well in a fight, so in a fight.
        1. andrej-shironov
          andrej-shironov 6 December 2017 14: 59 New
          0
          And there will be no fight! Putin can only declare to the public about the fight in the gateway and the beating.
      2. CONTROL
        CONTROL 6 December 2017 13: 04 New
        +4
        Quote: Boris55
        "Judge them according to their works"
        A patriot is not the one who shouts the loudest: “Forward Russia!”, This is, first of all, actions.

        The cult of success and narcissism narcissism has become too popular with us.
        “I swear by the evening time!” Verily, at a loss, every person, except those who believed, did good deeds, commanded patience to each other, and commanded the truth to each other. ”Koran, surah“ Al-Asr, ”“ Afternoon, ”verses 2-3.
        Success should not become an idol, success should have content - and not just a shell of rags, villas in the Canaries, chic cars and banal dough ...
        Verily, Allah does not love proud and boastful "Quran, Surah" An-Nisa "," Women ", ayat 36.
        Narcissism - narcissism - implies neglect of the interests of others! Even the good deeds done under the yoke of narcissism cast doubt on the sincerity of the good intentions of those who commit them!
        I’ll give a mile to the poor - and this is the case in all magazines, newspapers and on television ...
    3. Varyag71
      Varyag71 6 December 2017 10: 44 New
      +8
      Isinbayeva, of course, is still a “patriot,” eternal and giving birth in Monaco
    4. max702
      max702 6 December 2017 12: 45 New
      17
      It's very simple, OI-2018 is the first serious blow to society and the direct decree of our “elite” that awaits them in the near future, namely the very 180 days that gave us an inventory of everything stolen by excessive labor and taken abroad .. Like February 2 should voice, and in that voice will be taken into account what our response to the Olympic Games 2018 will be like, whether we fight or lie under the IOC, thereby making it clear that we are surrendering to the world bourgeoisie, and the white flag on the Olympic Games will be very symbolic here .. yes athletes it’s a pity for their whole life, especially their subsequent life, depends on their performance at the Olympic Games, nevertheless the medal on the Olympic Games influences very much both the status and welfare of the athlete in the future .. According to the mind at the level of sportsmen, everything can be poured with money; the amount there is miserable on a state scale .. dissatisfaction will not be the main thing not to be pinched .. Now what to do? by itself stop paying the IOC, but this is not enough, first of all put pressure on the sponsors of the IOC and the flagships of the sports industry in our country, When the adidas and the rebok start to lose money (and our sales are not small) you will see and understanding will come, but this is not enough , we need to make tougher political decisions. There’s nothing left to lose. We are only expected to surrender from us and nothing more. It is clear that if we don’t lie down and spread our legs, then the 2018 World Cup will not exist (and that it will not be 99% certainty in any situation), then freezing the assets of the “elite”, Rossi's accounts in Western banks, hundreds of billions of securities USA, the arrest of business and the pressing of kids and family members of our nouveau riche abroad. All this is aimed at a cardinal change of course in our country .. we’ll throw out the white flag and the whole 90s will seem like easy fun for the safety margin that the USSR left by the 90s now. According to the mind, it is time to start cleaning the sleeping people, and changing the development priorities of the country .. Do you know if you have enough determination for this, you have to put everything at stake .. The bourgeois revealed their cards masks completely cleared OI-2018 is only the first serious move. .
      1. verner1967
        verner1967 6 December 2017 21: 31 New
        0
        Quote: max702
        Now what to do? by itself stop paying the IOC, but this is not enough, first of all put pressure on the sponsors of the IOC and the flagships of the sports industry in our country, When the adidas and the rebok start to lose money (and our sales are not small) you look and understanding will come

        the main sponsors of the Olympics are telemagnets (American), well, how do you squeeze them? And the rest I agree.
  2. Nonna
    Nonna 6 December 2017 06: 23 New
    72
    What to spit on the IOC, if after talking about COUNTRY, FLAG, PEOPLE, any bastard has been demonstratively and publicly (and not the first year) wiping (and wiping) hooves, they receive no adequate reaction, except for "lamentations" to Zakharova and slurred moo ( mainly domestically). After they lower the flag and the anthem, and offer to perform under the Olympic flag and without an anthem, why do we need such a “holiday of sport.” The main thing for the GDP is the inviolability of its entire reach, which already laments about the poor athletes who prepared and hoped. .... AND CAN THEN AND THE ARMY PERFORM UNDER THE NEUTRAL FLAG !!!? And what the hell do all these highly paid officials need if they are capable of nothing but robbery? If they have no evidence, why don't they do ANYTHING, the same Mudko with accomplices? For all humiliation and mockery of the country there is NO adequate reaction! What was the chicken house taken away? They (officials) are terribly afraid to quarrel with their future owners. They are going to live THERE ..... Why rag Zhukov apologizes for the whole country and people. Who authorized him to take a knee-elbow pose? Disgraceful! If the GDP does not deal with its "unsinkable" homies, then in the end it will be swept away as Nicholas 2.
    1. kepmor
      kepmor 6 December 2017 06: 37 New
      28
      do you still believe "in a good and just king-priest" ??? ... until ??????
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      2. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 6 December 2017 08: 14 New
        +3
        and on the topic what can you say?
        1. larand
          larand 6 December 2017 08: 42 New
          17
          and on the topic - this whole story is another "success" of the Yeltsinoids who are ruining the country. And if the guarantor mumbles again, then this once again will prove that he ...
        2. Loess
          Loess 6 December 2017 09: 08 New
          +1
          Why on the topic? After all, the main thing is to shout louder, "The guard, everything is lost," but to the topic or not, the main thing is to loudly.
          1. andrej-shironov
            andrej-shironov 6 December 2017 15: 01 New
            +1
            You can and on the topic. Tell Less, who exactly is to blame for the doping scandal and its consequences? I just want to build a logical chain.
            1. Krabik
              Krabik 6 December 2017 16: 23 New
              +1
              The athletes are to blame for the IOC scandal, to whom they sent a document to ban certain drugs, and they put their member on the IOC.
              1. max702
                max702 7 December 2017 00: 02 New
                +1
                Quote: Krabik
                The athletes are to blame for the IOC scandal, to whom they sent a document to ban certain drugs, and they put their member on the IOC.

                Very bold! learn to troll better ... Do not set off negative
                1. Krabik
                  Krabik 7 December 2017 11: 51 New
                  +1
                  This is not trolling, WADA sent documents to ban meldonium to all athletes.

                  Many of them didn’t read the document or simply didn’t pay attention,

                  And as the time came to take tests, it turned out that they were taking drugs that were banned in advance.

                  And instead of releasing the athletes who violated the rules, the RUSADs first began to intercede for them, then the committee, then other officials.

                  The mutual responsibility effect worked and everyone began to shield each other and the more they blocked off, the more they lied.

                  Now they have come across so much that they have entered the whole country and normal athletes, as hostages of their wickedness.

                  I think the fairest thing is to completely exclude the Russian national team from games as indecent people who are not worthy to participate in the Olympics.
      3. andrej-shironov
        andrej-shironov 6 December 2017 15: 00 New
        0
        Join Kepmore!
    2. Sergey-svs
      Sergey-svs 6 December 2017 06: 47 New
      39
      Quote Nonna
      What to spit on the IOC, if after talking about COUNTRY, FLAG, PEOPLE, any bastard has been demonstratively and publicly (and not the first year) wiping (and wiping) hooves, they receive no adequate reaction, except for "lamentations" to Zakharova and slurred moo ( mostly domestically) ...

      I agree completely with you. yes When snot begin to chew that the athletes were preparing, they live by it - again comes the realization that in the present world the saddest thing in Russia is measured for many by money. negative Our "partners" know this and have Russia as they want, and the so-called "our" Kremlin officials - have already begun to cry and repent! am
      PS One hope for Eun just remained, because Kim, and not the IOC, is making the decision to conduct a general education in South Korea !: lol
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 6 December 2017 15: 04 New
        +1
        One hope for Eun
        Tsn did not seem to be on his knees, but what about our interlocutors?
    3. siberalt
      siberalt 6 December 2017 07: 08 New
      42
      In RUSAD they themselves are to blame. Rodchenkov flew back to the trade in anabolics and doping in 2011. His wife helped sell them to our athletes. He even attempted suicide. The case was released on the brakes and left him to perform "miracles of sport". At the same time, he was constantly blackmailed by this until his roof went off. But they don’t tell us anything about this. After this incident, law enforcement authorities did not let a cannon shot into our Olympic Committee and did everything they wanted. And some disqualified athletes caught in doping, deputies were attached to the Duma, just like other Voronenkov and maskakovyh. The system must be changed, and not blamed on the mirror. hi
      1. BARKHAN
        BARKHAN 6 December 2017 11: 54 New
        +2
        Quote: siberalt
        His wife helped sell them to our athletes.

        sister
    4. johnik
      johnik 6 December 2017 10: 01 New
      +6
      Why are future owners ?! The country is under occupation, and they are policemen feeding.
    5. jhltyjyjctw
      jhltyjyjctw 21 December 2017 02: 53 New
      0
      Quote: Nonna
      MAY THEN AND THE ARMY PERFORM UNDER THE NEUTRAL FLAG !!!?


      Well said. And they already want to play World Cup-18 in Russia without Russia. But this is after the election. Probably will not be relevant.
  3. Brigadier
    Brigadier 6 December 2017 06: 24 New
    19
    Yes, everything will be farther, as usual.
    Our officials will turn from the sort of sport and from the kind of authority back into the loin ... hmm ... the backs to the West, again, as always, will lean in the opposite direction from it, and spread their rolls to make it more convenient for the West. .. Well, you understand ... And the West will do it again with pleasure, so that Russia knows its place, and that the whole world sees who is who !!!
    Or do you still doubt it?
    1. kepmor
      kepmor 6 December 2017 06: 41 New
      23
      I'm 99% sure that they will “chase” ours under a white rag, like the sacrificial rams ... after all, the World Cup-18 is on the nose ...
      1. forester
        forester 6 December 2017 06: 52 New
        22
        Quote: kepmor
        I'm 99% sure that they will “chase” ours under a white rag, like the sacrificial rams ... after all, the World Cup-18 is on the nose ...

        The Olympic champion, a bobsledder, dispersing my countryman Zubkov, A. Voevoda said: I will be proud of those who DO NOT go to perform under the white flag. And he is not alone in his opinion
        1. rotmistr60
          rotmistr60 6 December 2017 07: 19 New
          10
          Many athletes have already declared their unwillingness to participate in such conditions (humiliated and impersonal). I doubt that our hockey players (real men) will express a desire to go. True, the head of something there in the freestyle federation spoke out for a trip and performance.
          1. novel66
            novel66 6 December 2017 09: 12 New
            +5
            they are there in freestyle, all malacholny
          2. Kent0001
            Kent0001 6 December 2017 12: 39 New
            +2
            Listen to Kovalchuk, he just broadcasts the opposite.
          3. Krabik
            Krabik 6 December 2017 18: 46 New
            +1
            What kind of "our" hockey players?

            Those who live in the US and play in the NHL?
          4. SCHWERIN
            SCHWERIN 7 December 2017 12: 05 New
            0
            Naive, they’ll go even like that! Judge for yourself - well, he didn’t go, the well-known “A”, to him Hurray, Patriot etc. Well, they’ll take a coach to Uryupinsk and train children.
            Another “B” spat on EVERYTHING and rode under the white, green, gray-brown-raspberry banner. During the Olympics, many forgot about the patriot “A”. And “B” is a national hero, the press, TV, a meeting at the airport, then in the Kremlin. Further deputy, children in university, wife in sables.
            Tell me, am I wrong? Open your eyes and think. Example # koliurengoy. Follow his biography for at least 3 years. The wave subsided. And they threw stones at him on the site of the hoo. Check out other stories.
            And I advise athletes to go to the Olympic Games. For medals, for the future. And do not listen to anyone. Not their fault that the figures have done. And these wise, no one will touch the beetle. Unfortunately, many are called, few are chosen ....
  4. Knowing
    Knowing 6 December 2017 06: 27 New
    30
    But if they decide to go, they will betray those spot-athletes who were unjustifiably disqualified and are trying to select the deservedly won medals ... To go to Korea faceless, under the white flag, to betray the Motherland ... The white flag is a symbol of surrender, and the Russians do not give up.
    1. Stas157
      Stas157 6 December 2017 10: 12 New
      +9
      So it is spelled out that an athlete has the right to speak under the White Flag, either without citizenship or for political reasons, that is, if the athlete does not want to have anything to do with the country. He doesn’t want to!

      I wonder what point the Russian athletes will indicate, those who, nevertheless, decided to participate under a white rag?
      1. forty-eighth
        forty-eighth 6 December 2017 11: 23 New
        +1
        Painted bullshit. The Russian Olympic Committee has been expelled from the IOC, and it is on this basis that athletes from Russia will compete under the Olympic flag. Without any "statelessness, or for political reasons."
        This was during OI-14 in Sochi, when OK India was expelled from the IOC, and the Indians who qualified for the Olympics had to fly under the Olympic flag.
        1. Stas157
          Stas157 6 December 2017 11: 41 New
          +6
          Quote: forty-eighth
          Painted bullshit. The Russian Olympic Committee has been expelled from the IOC, and it is on this basis that athletes from Russia will compete under the Olympic flag. Without any "statelessness, or for political reasons."

          And where is it written in the charter of the IOC? Please bring. And then, in fact, your words without this confirmation can also be called "bullshit".
          1. forty-eighth
            forty-eighth 6 December 2017 12: 37 New
            +2
            Quote: Stas157
            And where is it written in the charter of the IOC? Please bring.

            HAHAHAH, it’s very funny to demand a quote from a non-existent document. Okay, let's say you made a slip of the tongue and by the "IOC charter" meant the Olympic Charter. Kindly, the 5th chapter of the Olympic Charter is at your service, in particular its 41 article.
            Did I satisfy your curiosity?
            1. Stas157
              Stas157 6 December 2017 13: 06 New
              +4
              Quote: forty-eighth
              Kindly, the 5th chapter of the Olympic Charter is at your service, in particular its 41 article.
              Did I satisfy your curiosity?

              You do not satisfy my curiosity, you show where it is written there, confirmation of your words:
              Quote: forty-eighth
              The Russian Olympic Committee has been expelled from the IOC, and it is on this basis that athletes from Russia will compete under the Olympic flag. Without any "statelessness, or for political reasons."

              There is a reason that if the Olympic Committee of any country is excluded from the IOC, then the athletes of this country can appear on the flag of the IOC? Is it written somewhere, or have you been invented? And then you very easily give out other people's words as "bullshit", but you cannot confirm yours with anything.
              1. forty-eighth
                forty-eighth 6 December 2017 14: 06 New
                +1
                Quote: Stas157
                Is it written somewhere, or have you been invented?

                Chapter 5, article 41. Do not be foolish.
                1. Stas157
                  Stas157 7 December 2017 08: 06 New
                  +3
                  Quote: forty-eighth

                  Chapter 5, article 41. Do not be foolish.

                  It’s not there. Why can't you give an excerpt? Article number is not an excerpt! You include the fool.
    2. Kent0001
      Kent0001 6 December 2017 12: 41 New
      +3
      Korean Ahn said that he would fly under the white flag. Well, I’m not talking by birth, as it were. We are waiting for a reaction from our other athletes.
  5. Esoteric
    Esoteric 6 December 2017 06: 27 New
    56
    I found a poem, the last quatrain simply in the subject:
    I throw a stone at your garden
    In beautiful ties dumb mutt!
    Why don’t you love people so much
    Nursing your righteous ** py?

    Who am I? I am an ordinary nurse.
    I live, I feed children on 10.300.
    And there is no longer hope for Christ.
    More and more often I remember the Communists ...

    Teacher, doctor - there is pride and honor ...
    The leader of the plant is honor and glory.
    And the resort is healing every year
    The country sent its workers.

    And I'm sitting and crying. How do i live?
    I am not a lazy person, I am a citizen of Russia!
    I teach children to love my homeland,
    But here for what - they cannot explain to them ...

    My father did not live up to retirement ...
    He fed his family, could not stand the load ...
    And I always paid to the pension fund!
    Where is his money? To children? Fuck those Russian!

    And mother, having survived two heart attacks,
    She taught children our Russian speech,
    As a result, a cookie with butter received ...
    Why does the state cripple us so?

    Holy and Naked Our people
    Donates a penny to children for salvation,
    And the father on a jeep shakes past,
    Wishing everyone universal patience.

    The daughter wants to sing and dance
    Studying at school for one five ...
    But what can a medical mom give her?
    Once a month, meat ... How bitter it is!

    A mighty, great country
    You are an unshakable power ...
    So why don't you value a damn
    Ordinary people who created your glory?


    ➡ Source: https://publizist.ru/blogs/110832/21794/-
    1. Rurikovich
      Rurikovich 6 December 2017 06: 55 New
      +4
      good good good good good
      There’s nothing to say ... request
      1. Krabik
        Krabik 6 December 2017 18: 53 New
        0
        Yes, it’s hard for the poor%)

        100 thousand teachers get jeeps to the school, and doctors ski every year in France.

        One pain they have;)

        Or someone deliberately swaps the 90s and the current satisfying times for all public servants ...
    2. Russian jacket
      Russian jacket 6 December 2017 07: 01 New
      +6
      +100500 Especially the last lines. hi
    3. Galleon
      Galleon 6 December 2017 09: 44 New
      +2
      The poem is "good and correct", only the author is written that she is a nurse at the Lotoshinsky Central District Hospital, and there are no hospitals in Lotoshino. The nearest is a mental hospital in Mikulino. Then how is it, from whom and for what? Type yourself in Yandex: hospitals in the Moscow region ...
      1. Stas157
        Stas157 6 December 2017 10: 28 New
        10
        Quote: Galleon
        they only write about the author that she is a nurse at the Lotoshinsky Central District Hospital, and there are no hospitals in Lotoshino. .

        Who cares? Do not go to the person! What for? Are you interested in a poem, or how does the author live? Many generally sign their creations with pseudonyms! So, now, if the author is incorrectly indicated, then their work is good for nothing? You appreciate poetry (as many have already done!), And do not follow the author.
        Suppose the author is not a nurse. And he did it, just to increase the effect. Is it not from this that it becomes true that our nurses live like this? I have a wife, a doctor, and such horrors told about nurses, and at the same time single mothers! It’s really scary to live like that! Especially sorry for their children ...
        1. Galleon
          Galleon 6 December 2017 10: 41 New
          +1
          Quote: Stas157
          Quote: Galleon
          they only write about the author that she is a nurse at the Lotoshinsky Central District Hospital, and there are no hospitals in Lotoshino. .

          Who cares? Do not go to the person! What for? Are you interested in a poem, or how does the author live? Many generally sign their creations with pseudonyms! So, now, if the author is incorrectly indicated, then their work is good for nothing? You appreciate poetry (as many have already done!), And do not follow the author.
          Suppose the author is not a nurse. And he did it, just to increase the effect. Is it not from this that it becomes true that our nurses live like this? I have a wife, a doctor, and such horrors told about nurses, and at the same time single mothers! It’s really scary to live like that! Especially sorry for their children ...

          Aren't I sorry for those children and nurses? Yes, I wrote a letter to Putin after I once brought up such a single mother: there is no work in the village, for 2 children she received 280 rubles (12 years ago it was)! The eldest is sitting at home, because there is nothing to put on school, and the youngest still goes. And that woman complained that they didn’t give a loan in a bread store! ... it would be better if I didn’t remember .... So I wrote - let the bread allow him to lend his excellence.
          But doesn’t it make a difference who you get or learn from: from the enemy or from a friend? Here a person puts on someone else's mask to evoke sympathy and sympathy, and already from this mask says the "right" verses. They do not cease to be right for you? It never occurred to you that for good reason you should not start with a lie? And if I started with lies and for honest reasons, then for even bigger lies - isn’t that so?
          You see what kind of conversation it turns out - like in Odessa - a question to a question. But I wrote correctly about this forgery.
          1. Stas157
            Stas157 6 December 2017 11: 24 New
            +6
            Quote: Galleon
            But doesn’t it make a difference who you get or learn from: from the enemy or from a friend?

            There is. Only the enemy will point out your weak points best of all. Therefore, the only way out is to adequately hold the blow, answer the challenges, and correct in yourself what you can be accused of. And do not go into a blank defense, translating arrows, and relieving himself of all responsibility. Our enemies will continue to push our weaknesses until we fix them.
            After all, what is the popularity of this upstart Navalny among young people? And the fact that 90% of what he says is true. And our government, instead of correcting the situation, cowardly hides its head in the sand, preferring to accuse Navalny that he works for the West (Well, that’s how it is! But what difference does it make?).
            1. Galleon
              Galleon 6 December 2017 12: 05 New
              +2
              Believe me, I didn’t go into the blank defense, but warned. Best of all, your friend or father will point out your weak points, but not the enemy. The enemy will beat them and increase them, and not point to them. For the rest, what you said, I fully agree and am glad that we have come to an agreement. Well, how could it be otherwise, if both have a soul that hurts equally.
              1. Stas157
                Stas157 6 December 2017 12: 20 New
                +5
                I didn’t mean you when I wrote about the “dead defense”. This is what the Russian authorities do all the time when they hide their heads in the sand.
                Quote: Galleon
                For the rest, what you said, I fully agree and am glad that we have come to an agreement. Well, how could it be otherwise, if both have a soul that hurts equally.

                I agree with you.
      2. AID.S
        AID.S 6 December 2017 13: 41 New
        +1
        Quote: Galleon
        Then how is it, from whom and for what?

        You can believe, you can not believe, it does not matter. There are a million pros and cons. And Ulyukaev can complain about fate and the stationless homeless.
        You can rephrase:
        "If you have an Internet pass in your pocket,
        So it’s not so bad today. "
    4. ddd1975
      ddd1975 6 December 2017 11: 18 New
      +5
      Bravo!
      "... And there is no longer hope for Christ.
      More and more often I remember the Communists ... "- this is very tough, but true ...
  6. Victor N
    Victor N 6 December 2017 06: 31 New
    +7
    The author is right, the proposals are reasonable. Dignity must be observed.
    1. Russian jacket
      Russian jacket 6 December 2017 06: 57 New
      27
      As Chekhov used to say, "Intelligence is not education but a state of mind. I have seen the most intelligent peasants and so-called intellectuals in my circle." The proposals are reasonable, but by analogy, the people for a boycott .... But the environment of the King ??? As they are now appointing to the posts on the principle of loyalty rather than business qualities ... Interestingly, the same Rodchenkov was appointed by what criteria and most importantly by whom? I’m after this story, especially if ours will be under a white rag, the olympiad is a disgrace, I won’t watch .... And already the snot on TV started that we shouldn’t ... We should go, even with rags .... We’ll see ... The hockey team at first scorched, and now, as I understand it, they agree to have sex not even in the inn, but like that. in the eatery. Grandmothers are above all else, they will also receive a behha for such a number .... And for Putin, if this is a disgrace under a white rag, the beginning of the end will come as the country's leader.
      1. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 6 December 2017 08: 06 New
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        Quote: Russian quilted jacket
        I’m after this story, especially if ours will be under a white rag the Olympics, it's a disgrace, I won’t watch ...

        Russians are not united by nationality, Russians are united by the state. Russians without a state do not exist; they quickly assimilate with others. The absence of a flag is a deprivation of statehood - unacceptable to us.
        1. Kent0001
          Kent0001 6 December 2017 12: 46 New
          0
          And in what place did the Russians quickly assimilate? What is it in Brighton?
      2. Galleon
        Galleon 6 December 2017 09: 47 New
        +5
        Quote: Russian quilted jacket
        As Chekhov used to say, "Intelligence is not education but a state of mind ...

        I shake your hand, comrade! good
  7. Mihail55
    Mihail55 6 December 2017 06: 43 New
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    He survived yesterday, the old one, hoping for something else. I learned, it became bitter. On the channel, the Match of Guberniev was crucified ... you have to go anyway. I also watched a match between CSKA and Manchester ... and again blew it. Bitter, very bitter ... Is it possible to measure everything for money ???? Guarantor, remember the mere mortals!
    1. Victor N
      Victor N 6 December 2017 07: 23 New
      +6
      Don’t worry, this is just show business.
  8. domokl
    domokl 6 December 2017 06: 43 New
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    Whether athletes from Russia will compete or not will no longer matter. A soldier cannot fight for the sake of war. Only mercenaries do this. Soldier defends the country. Dies for the country and not for a penny ...
    Those who will perform, even if they win, will never become the idols of our boys and girls. They will never proudly look like olympic old men today to look directly into the eyes of their descendants. Mercenaries outlawed.
    And the joys are already over for me. And I will not watch them. Died so died.
    Today, the reaction of the president is interesting. Russia is a great country or so, went for a walk? And sports? .. So he won sports. On skating rinks, on ski tracks, in gyms. There need to invest money. open free sections, as it was in the USSR. Build boxes in the courtyards. Equip sports towns.
    Maybe it is tough, but the moment of truth has come in sports. Let's go for a run-crush in other areas. Stand-win. What will the guarantor say? We wait...
    1. analgin
      analgin 6 December 2017 06: 50 New
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      Quote: domokl

      Maybe it is tough, but the moment of truth has come in sports. Let's go for a run-crush in other areas. Stand-win. What will the guarantor say? We wait...

      Do you want to bet that he will say: "Let them perform"?
      1. domokl
        domokl 6 December 2017 07: 40 New
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        Why argue? I would also say, speak who wants. This is a great litmus test for those who are really for the country, and for those who get kicked out for workouts ...
        So on a bluff, you couldn't take me laughing I this, putinoid-liberal communist sense but with monarchical inclinations recourse
        1. novel66
          novel66 6 December 2017 09: 15 New
          +5
          so, for a minute, they also want to remove the dough from us, for investigation, you know! angry
        2. Old warrior
          Old warrior 6 December 2017 09: 35 New
          0
          Well, why is the liberal here?
      2. astronom1973n
        astronom1973n 6 December 2017 08: 33 New
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        Quote: analgin
        Quote: domokl
        Maybe it is tough, but the moment of truth has come in sports. Let's go for a run-crush in other areas. Stand-win. What will the guarantor say? We wait...
        Do you want to bet that he will say: "Let them perform"?

        Of course, let them speak for themselves and for their own finances, and not for state funding. And under their own “no-man's” flag. What good will the women's biathlon team go to - all the same results for the last 5 years there have been no results, even at least without doping.
      3. helmi8
        helmi8 6 December 2017 11: 31 New
        +6
        Quote: analgin
        Do you want to bet that he will say: "Let them perform"?

        Yes, let them speak ... Only on their own behalf and at their own expense go there and pay for everything. And even if they don’t even mention Russia, they are not “Russian athletes” under the “neutral flag”, but “neutral”, and they speak for themselves personally, and not for the country ...
    2. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 6 December 2017 08: 09 New
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      Quote: domokl
      Today the president’s reaction is interesting.

      His reaction is very interesting to me too. In my opinion this is the main answer today. After him, it will become clear - who is He?
      1. larand
        larand 6 December 2017 08: 46 New
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        You were 17 years old, to understand who?
        1. domokl
          domokl 6 December 2017 08: 55 New
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          To be honest, not enough. Where Putin answers, we win. But where the prime minister responds, we don’t look very optimistic. Although, despite the sanctions, we remain. So, as long as there is no even the same class politician, Putin is needed. With all our criticism of his actions. But with the liberals in the economy must be dealt with yesterday ...
          1. larand
            larand 6 December 2017 09: 47 New
            +5
            Well, where do we win? Only do not touch the Crimea, they gave it to us like a Trojan horse.
        2. Kent0001
          Kent0001 6 December 2017 15: 25 New
          0
          They said that it is not necessary to hysteria. Those. not yet. They took a break.
    3. Esoteric
      Esoteric 6 December 2017 09: 17 New
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      Quote: domokl
      Stand, win. What will the guarantor say? We wait...


      Judging by the time that has passed since the decision of the IOC and the announcement of the will of the "Almighty Olympians", there is nothing from what the people expect from him, he will not say. For it will become the enemy of the oligarchs ... Does he need this? He thinks for the whole country, for the whole as a whole ... what
      In his place, I withdrew the entire $ 18 fine from the Zhukovsky-Mudkovskaya company and would send it to this IOC. And he told the media that the Russian Federation, as a country and state, would not speak at any world events (whether sports, military,) under the white flag or under any other. And officially announces a boycott of the participation of the Russian Federation in the Olympics. Athletes who want to participate in the Olympic Games 000, let them solve their problems on their own ... Would replace the entire top sports leadership of Russia ...
      All decisions of the IOC for each athlete were decided only in court ...
    4. Gardamir
      Gardamir 6 December 2017 09: 18 New
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      Today the president’s reaction is interesting.
      the reaction will be like that. "We are for the Olympic movement. We will cooperate with the IOC" and so on ...
      1. Dangerous
        Dangerous 6 December 2017 09: 45 New
        +8
        Right As well as with Ukraine, they recognized the powder and the coup, we also trade with them.
        1. freejack
          freejack 6 December 2017 10: 29 New
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          I agree ... 99% that the current government will kick the athletes in any case to Korea, so as not to lose the MUNDIAL 2018, which we will lose anyway .... I do not understand what’s the matter, but the current government has lost the ability to do high things in the name of POWER !!! (((((
          1. Giants
            Giants 6 December 2017 19: 01 New
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            [quote = freejack. I don’t understand what’s the matter, but the current government has lost the ability to do high things in the name of POWER !!! (((((([/ quote]
            Our government did not have such an ability. Do you know why? Because a cowardly, deceitful thief who has settled in the Kremlin, such an ability cannot be a priori.
            Wait for Putin's speech on OI and be convinced of it once again.
            1. freejack
              freejack 11 December 2017 14: 22 New
              0
              There was Crimea and Syria ... I believe that the leadership of the country in both cases acted boldly and efficiently ... In-in ... maybe the West was offended because of these actions?) And now they poke a stick at the bear, where can get ... at all sorts of festivals, olympiads and Nobel prizes there ... (((
        2. Kent0001
          Kent0001 6 December 2017 12: 54 New
          +3
          ... and they water us with shit. Now not only Ukrainians, but also the IOC, and without proof. And why do gentlemen if they have endured (the RF in this case) endures everything.
      2. solzh
        solzh 6 December 2017 10: 40 New
        +9
        It turns out, we’ll once again mop up? And so I want to believe in a fairy tale ... It's a shame, but really go under the white flag. The "guarantor" of the constitution will allow. Although I do not recognize Kadyrov, he correctly said about the trip of athletes to the Olympic Games.
    5. Sinbad
      Sinbad 6 December 2017 11: 40 New
      +3
      So we find out who is a Russian athlete and who is a corrupt legionnaire.
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 6 December 2017 12: 02 New
        +4
        Russian athlete, and who is a corrupt legionnaire
        dig there, here we find out which of our rulers is for Russia, and which is for our partners.
        1. Sinbad
          Sinbad 8 December 2017 10: 47 New
          0
          Well, with the "rulers" for a long time everything is clear.
    6. Kent0001
      Kent0001 6 December 2017 12: 48 New
      +4
      “Whether the athletes from Russia will perform or not will no longer matter. A soldier cannot fight for the sake of war. Only mercenaries do this. A soldier defends a country. He dies for the country and not for a penny ...” - I really liked it very much. It is intelligible and understandable, I hope for everyone.
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 6 December 2017 14: 25 New
        0
        Soldier defends the country
        That is, you are opposed to the officials responsible for the situation? The athletes will be blamed for everything.
    7. 2ez
      2ez 6 December 2017 15: 41 New
      +2
      good good good good good
      For me, the Olympiad died in 2016, in Rio, when Isinbayeva was not allowed ... it was with such a small letter about ...
  9. oleggun
    oleggun 6 December 2017 06: 44 New
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    Games to boycott. To impose sanctions on the head of the IOC and those involved. Deny entry into Russia for 1000 years.
    1. analgin
      analgin 6 December 2017 07: 02 New
      +7
      Quote: oleggun
      Games to boycott. To impose sanctions on the head of the IOC and those involved. Deny entry into Russia for 1000 years.

      I am sure that both the head of the IOC and everyone else will be horrified that they will not be able to study at Russian universities, use Russian medicine and keep money in Sberbank. recourse
    2. Conductor
      Conductor 6 December 2017 07: 05 New
      +4
      Not to prohibit, but to conduct our own trial, the most humane one, and condemn according to the articles. and welcome to Vladimir Central.
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 6 December 2017 09: 21 New
        10
        ours, the most humane
        the one who judged Serdyukov and Vasiliev. What time are you living in? Or arrived by time machine from the past. Forget all these Soviet slogans. Capitalism and partnership are striding across Russia. They will do everything as partners command.
  10. Siberian1965
    Siberian1965 6 December 2017 06: 52 New
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    I fully support regarding the participation of Russia in the OI. There should not be any white rags. The quality of sports officials in the country in this decision of the IOC was fully manifested. One name for them is "chewing snot", I can’t say anything about loot, I don’t know, but I suspect they’re sawing
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  12. Nix1986
    Nix1986 6 December 2017 06: 54 New
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    Well, what did the GDP want, the cool major project, the Olympiad here, and in addition, to remember it, take 1st place. But how to do it?! That's right, pump methane and other shit to our athletes. I decided to take a chance, maybe a show off is more expensive. It’s clear that now the policy is in solution, but the risk didn’t come true, the truth was revealed, so the Tramparampamps do not need to be blamed, IOC should have disqualified us from garlic. But not everything is lost, Syria and Ukraine still steer on RTR and in Soloviev’s studio and we are also ahead of the rest. And most importantly, the World Cup is also ours. And the failure to provide pensions, health care, science, we will somehow survive, aren't we patriots ?!
    1. BecmepH
      BecmepH 6 December 2017 07: 21 New
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      "Minus" to you. Are you naive or pretending to be? Do you really believe that the IOC is "garlic" in relation to us?
      Nah. You are not naive and do not pretend ...
      1. Nix1986
        Nix1986 6 December 2017 08: 39 New
        11
        From right now we are in America in dust with missiles - ko ko ko, the whole rotting west missiles - ko ko. And the fact that many Western funds pay for the treatment of our children - well, so the parents of these children are traitors, the main thing is money, and not pride in the country. Yes, I do not care about the Olympics, the World Cup. We have a damn tin happening now in health care, the pension system, science, I am silent that the government and even if not have a clear, but at least a clear plan for the development of the economy. Do you want to pay for the future ambitions and health of yours and your children for the political ambitions of a number of individuals? It's your business, I do not want. Of course, the problems of supplying patients with HIV and oncology is not so popular, with beer and chips with crab with friends you can’t talk about it in Solovyov’s studio either (this is not Ukraine and Syria), as someone threw some piece of iron at competitions. Therefore, let my message pass by your ears, you don’t need it, everything is cool with you.
      2. Gardamir
        Gardamir 6 December 2017 15: 24 New
        +1
        "Minus" to you. Are you naive or pretending to be?
        And you minus. If not for the corrupt power, no IOC, would not have jerked against us.
    2. astronom1973n
      astronom1973n 6 December 2017 08: 40 New
      +9
      Quote: Nix1986
      Well, what did the GDP want, the cool major project, the Olympiad here, and in addition, to remember it, take 1st place. But how to do it?! That's right, pump methane and other shit to our athletes.

      And other countries do not pump up anything? Or is everything really honest in professional sports? Vaughn Fourcade runs on an individual - he took off his skis and breathes evenly and already gives out the interview, while the others fall to the finish line. What is he superman? There is no record in big sports without farm!
      1. Nix1986
        Nix1986 6 December 2017 08: 45 New
        +6
        Xs may be pumped up, but there is no political motive. And we already had it at the time of the Olympics, and if so, then what the hell didn’t take all the measures so that there was nothing to catch on ?! There can always be a reason, the main thing is that there was nothing to catch on. And we took a chance.
        1. Esoteric
          Esoteric 6 December 2017 09: 31 New
          +6
          Quote: Nix1986
          Xs may be pumped up, but there is no political motive. And we already had it at the time of the Olympics, and if so, then what the hell did not take all measures so that there was nothing to catch on?! There can always be a reason, the main thing is that there was nothing to catch on. And we took a chance.

          In your words, there is only the truth that the Olympics happen once every four years, and we live every day, and it gets better for us, but this can be seen under a microscope, and it doesn’t get any bigger if the increase in population comes from migration, and we’ll be longer they didn’t start living, if we resort to the simplest and most mathematical formula for calculating the arithmetic mean ...
          It’s bitter for the fact that this power, creating this economic model, has believed in its exclusiveness, security from “going about your own business”, and in Russian “maybe” ... But, I ask you, at this bitter hour for the country:
          1. Nix1986
            Nix1986 6 December 2017 09: 35 New
            +3
            This is not a bitter hour, but a bitter few decades :))) It’s shitty if someone, only NOW was upset by what is happening. It is necessary to apply in the high-tech sphere by type of activity, incl. in health care, everyone is upset since the 1990s :)))
    3. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 6 December 2017 08: 58 New
      +2
      Quote: Nix1986
      Right, pump up our athletes with methane and other shit

      YES?!!!!!!!!!!!
      and there is evidence?
      I'm silent about methane
      1. Nix1986
        Nix1986 6 December 2017 09: 04 New
        +7
        One of the episodes: WADA notified RUSADA that they would come to collect samples A that they had stored. When they arrived in 3 days, they found that 3 samples were destroyed in RUSADA during these 1400 days.
        Sports Minister Vitaliy Mutko said that the doping tests, which are mentioned in the report of the independent commission of the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA), were disposed of in accordance with the organization’s circular.
        “This was done with the knowledge of WADA, which lowered the circular. There is a procedure there, they lowered: “From such a moment, save the sample.” For the rest there were no indications, and they were destroyed, ”Mutko said.
        In my opinion, it is not at all suspicious to destroy samples exactly 3 days before the arrival of the commission that wanted to remove them ?! laughing
        In general, I have already said above, we have a bunch of much more important problems.
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 6 December 2017 10: 37 New
          0
          Quote: Nix1986
          In my opinion, it is not at all suspicious to destroy samples exactly 3 days before the arrival of the commission that wanted to remove them ?!

          I come to check and say I need those and those documents, and they do not provide what is suspicious?
          1. Nix1986
            Nix1986 6 December 2017 11: 00 New
            +2
            It seems to be not Monday, re-read the post again. No samples were provided. They were destroyed exactly 3 days before the visit. The right to destroy them was. But they exercised this right EXACTLY 3 DAYS before the commission’s visit.
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 6 December 2017 11: 35 New
              +1
              Quote: Nix1986
              The right to destroy them was. But they exercised this right EXACTLY 3 DAYS before the commission’s visit.

              ii? !!!!
              yes, even in two hours, destroyed according to regulatory acts? !!!
              1. Nix1986
                Nix1986 6 December 2017 11: 44 New
                +2
                Damn you do not read, I already wrote everything above.
                1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                  Vasilenko Vladimir 6 December 2017 11: 50 New
                  +2
                  so I read
                  This was done with the knowledge of WADA, which lowered the circular

                  it’s violet to me, the destruction of the samples was carried out legally, the suspicions are NOT THE EVIDENCE
  13. inkass_98
    inkass_98 6 December 2017 07: 01 New
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    The article is emotional, that's why it's big. Could have been made shorter:
    - sportsmen at the Olympic Games - representatives of the state. There is no power in games - there are no athletes. And there are no fees from the country for those who went "for themselves."
    - the functionaries of the National Olympic Committee, including the IOC functionaries, they receive a salary there. Draw your own conclusions if gentlemen like Zhukov will want to lose additional income for the sake of some kind of "national idea."
    - termination of payments to the IOC, since the NOC is deprived of authority.
    - lack of contracts for broadcasting games on federal channels of the Russian Federation.
    And, as the peak of this "yolka", the priority of national legislation (including in sports, at the level of sports federations) over international. Following the example of the NHL - the national championship uber alls, those who were released or whose teams left the championship go to any games.
    It is high time to forget about "international prestige", everything should be done in the country for its citizens, and not for foreigners. "The Soviets have their own pride" are absolutely correct words; they forgot them in vain. "Partners" from the "pack of comrades" now constantly remind us of this.
    1. Seraphimamur
      Seraphimamur 6 December 2017 07: 27 New
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      First you need to change the constitution where it is said that the Russian Federation recognizes the supremacy of international law (American) over its own.
      1. inkass_98
        inkass_98 6 December 2017 07: 31 New
        +5
        I wrote about this. And that will be right.
      2. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 6 December 2017 08: 11 New
        +3
        Quote: Seraphimamur
        First you need to change the constitution where it is said that the Russian Federation recognizes the supremacy of international law (American) over its own.

        By the way, this has already been done; there is a corresponding decision of the Supreme Court
  14. Conductor
    Conductor 6 December 2017 07: 04 New
    +9
    And this is an insult to the country, from the side not anyone knows. Again, smash something. Or it may be that they enter into a tough conflict, or ours are not dragging because of financial ties to the West.
  15. Rokossovsky
    Rokossovsky 6 December 2017 07: 05 New
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    If one of the athletes on a personal initiative still goes - it will be their personal shame!
    Zhukov's apology to this big top is a shame for the whole country!
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    2. Galleon
      Galleon 6 December 2017 09: 58 New
      +8
      Quote: Rokossovsky
      Zhukov's apology to this big top is a shame for the whole country!

      I think that they are not a shame, because there really was something to apologize for. And all this reality came from Mutko, for which he was disqualified for life. For me, he will be an indicator: if Pu does not punish him - that's it! The team of Uber Ales and Serdyukov are eternal. Missiles will continue to fall, ships -
      built over decades, and robbing a country through a liberal economy forever.
  16. iury.vorgul
    iury.vorgul 6 December 2017 07: 06 New
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    On the site "Sport Express" on the topic "to go or not to go" 37 and a half thousand were polled, 72% are against surrender, the rest are ready to bend.
    And the joys are already over for me. And I will not watch them. Died so died.
    Yes, they died at that moment when they turned from sports competitions of amateurs into show games of gladiator-professionals. And now they will rush there for their dough, but the fact that under a white rag, nothing, no one has died from shame.
    1. dedBoroded
      dedBoroded 6 December 2017 07: 30 New
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      To support those who want to bend under a rag is something like supporting a soldier who says, “thank you for feeding and drinking, training for life, I just want to fight for another army, I don’t know how to do anything else please forgive me, maybe in the next battle I won’t let you down ... "
    2. Victor N
      Victor N 6 December 2017 07: 44 New
      +4
      Sport has long become a SHOW BUSINESS: athletes are spoiled, money is sucked out of fans and the budget.
    3. helmi8
      helmi8 6 December 2017 11: 41 New
      +7
      Quote: iury.vorgul
      Yes, they died at that moment when they turned from sports competitions of amateurs into show games of gladiator-professionals.

      Rather, they turned into a competition for pharmaceutical companies - they don’t recognize your drug as doping - a champion, I got caught - I’m full of you ...
  17. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 6 December 2017 07: 06 New
    +8
    It is noteworthy that not a single country supported us! Everyone now only happily rubs their hands from Russia's even greater isolation.
    Now the main thing is not to surrender yours and raise Mutko. The guy worked for five points good
    1. BecmepH
      BecmepH 6 December 2017 07: 24 New
      +2
      Quote: Thunderbolt
      It is noteworthy that not a single country supported us! Everyone now only happily rubs their hands from Russia's even greater isolation.
      Now the main thing is not to surrender yours and raise Mutko. The guy worked for five points good

      Well, you’re in vain. Even Fourcade stood up for ours
  18. svskor80
    svskor80 6 December 2017 07: 10 New
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    Quote: oleggun
    Games to boycott. To impose sanctions on the head of the IOC and those involved. Deny entry into Russia for 1000 years.

    Anyone still should not ban entry. But the games are unambiguously boycotted, and in court to withdraw all financial resources invested by Russia in the form of contributions to the IOC and individual federations for the pre-Olympic cycle (4 years).
    1. Galleon
      Galleon 6 December 2017 10: 00 New
      +4
      Quote: svskor80
      Anyone still should not ban entry.

      Correctly! Departure must be prohibited! and start with Mutko, Zhukov and Rogozin.
  19. Korsar4
    Korsar4 6 December 2017 07: 17 New
    +4
    Hostages we have not yet passed the World Cup. And so - just a retaliatory strike by Rodchenkov for Snowden. But all right, defectors never end well. But playing by the rules of others is always doom. Nothing, and it will pass. Life is more than a show.
    1. larand
      larand 6 December 2017 08: 50 New
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      and what, because of football, you can bend and obey? But it’s not better to send football.
      1. woron333444
        woron333444 6 December 2017 09: 48 New
        +9
        For us, football is not an indicator, we have not had football for a long time, and there is no normal team.
      2. Korsar4
        Korsar4 6 December 2017 10: 09 New
        +3
        No. It’s just that these rules of the game were adopted in the 90s. Now we disintegrate.
      3. BecmepH
        BecmepH 6 December 2017 12: 27 New
        +2
        Quote: larand
        and what, because of football, you can bend and obey? But it’s not better to send football.

        Moreover, a proposal has already been made not to allow our team to the World Cup. Due to the use of dope ...
        And we are laughing at Ukraine.
  20. Conductor
    Conductor 6 December 2017 07: 23 New
    +8
    Maybe it’s time to miss the caliber to go to Europe? And also remove the iPhone from the place and send it to the Oymyakon city settlement together with Ku, Gr, Na, Se, as a bonus a uniform from Yudashkin and a pick.
  21. dedBoroded
    dedBoroded 6 December 2017 07: 24 New
    +6
    Throughout history, the West has tried to bend Russia, the USSR, and the Russian Federation for trying to put itself on a par with the Western world. At first, these were wars and diplomatic games, and now they have reached an unprecedented demonization in sports. They didn’t dare to blather in Berlin in 1936. now hypocrisy and faith in their own exceptionalism, completely undermining the reputation of the Olympic movement and other international institutions. Once again, Russia has shown that WEST IS NOT TO BE BELIEVED IN ANYTHING!
    1. Korsar4
      Korsar4 6 December 2017 07: 34 New
      +3
      Right. "Do not believe the woman, do not believe the Turk ..." (c)
  22. Seraphimamur
    Seraphimamur 6 December 2017 07: 31 New
    +7
    Now patriotism among athletes will be visible! Let's see who is ready to play not for the country but for a white rag and himself beloved. Let us look at the triumph of the ideals of a consumer society.
  23. thinker
    thinker 6 December 2017 07: 34 New
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    The third grade will be admitted, out of pity.

  24. 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave 6 December 2017 07: 36 New
    +3
    I suggest that those who went to the Olympic Games 2018 to Russian athletes (if this happens) perform under the Jolly Roger! Well, what else remains?
    1. engineer74
      engineer74 6 December 2017 10: 41 New
      +2
      This is all a circus, but provoking Kim to fuck up during the Olympics is the thing. Then we’ll save face, and the whole world will think: “These cunning Russians deliberately launched a doping scandal to, under a plausible excuse, take their athletes out of a nuclear strike!”
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 6 December 2017 12: 50 New
        +2
        Is everything else not a circus? As for me the Olympic movement died in the 72nd in Munich, then politics began.
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  26. Altona
    Altona 6 December 2017 07: 54 New
    18
    Roman emotionally painted almost all aspects, I’ll add from myself:
    1) Smirnov and Zhukov yesterday were apparently so afraid of losing their warm places in the IOC that they agreed with all the charges, Zhukov even apologized for something.
    2) Please note that our athletes will be called Olympic sportsman (athlet) FROM RUSSIA (OSIR-Olympic athlete from Russia, some kind of orphan from Russia). Not Russia or the Russian team, but literally an orphan from Russia.
    3) Thomas Bach “promised” that “the persecution will end.” But after such a massive selection of medals, it’s far from the fact that those “orphans” from Russia who receive medals will be able to keep them.
    4) The West will select our athletes from the “second” line-up and set off their victories against this background. Our favorites have been blacklisted. In general, there will be double humiliation.
    5) So whether it is necessary to speak in such OI and whether it is necessary to pay 15 million for the “rechecking of samples” and repent? In Lausanne, by the way, there are blood samples that did not interest anyone. And it’s clear why. Blood is a more objective indicator of the athlete's condition.
    In general, I see no reason to speak. Neither on image, nor on judges, nor on any other distributions. The USSR successfully managed without OI, developed mass sport. I think that our leaders should nevertheless listen to the opinion of the people, and not obediently stand in the pose of a broken birch.
    1. Odysseus
      Odysseus 6 December 2017 08: 25 New
      11
      Quote: Altona
      Smirnov and Zhukov yesterday were apparently so afraid of losing their warm places in the IOC that they agreed with all the charges, Zhukov even apologized for something.

      Yes, it was just a shame. And the main thing is completely aimless. I hope Putin will still have the determination not to continue this line of behavior and not bring the matter to epic shame with a performance under the white flag. Moreover, the funny thing is that such a surrender will be aimless they’ll beat anyway.
      1. BecmepH
        BecmepH 6 December 2017 12: 33 New
        +1
        Quote: Odyssey
        Quote: Altona
        Smirnov and Zhukov yesterday were apparently so afraid of losing their warm places in the IOC that they agreed with all the charges, Zhukov even apologized for something.

        Yes, it was just a shame. And the main thing is completely aimless. I hope Putin will still have the determination not to continue this line of behavior and not bring the matter to epic shame with a performance under the white flag. Moreover, the funny thing is that such a surrender will be aimless they’ll beat anyway.

        This Zhu ... did as he was told ...
        I hope that Putin will still have the determination not to continue this line of behavior and not bring the matter to an epic shame with a performance under the white flag
        But I can’t believe it, something ...
    2. helmi8
      helmi8 6 December 2017 11: 46 New
      +1
      Quote: Altona
      The USSR successfully dispensed with Olympic Games, and developed mass sport.

      It is enough to recall our boycott of OI-84 and in return the Goodwill Games arranged ...
  27. Grandfather Talash
    Grandfather Talash 6 December 2017 07: 58 New
    13
    Thanks to the author for the fiery impulse of patriotism, but all this will go away like water in the sand ... There are already no Korchagins who are “ashamed of an aimlessly lived life”, everything is decided by the loot ... and how to give a drink, there are those who will hold on to white a rag and who will pay it all from the budget .. and there will be different excuses why it is necessary ... Everything is decided by the benefit ... But for the bureaucrats, Rodina is where "well .. pa is warm" (Brother-2). So, that is not surprising ... we are waiting for the performance part 2: "we still go to the Olympic Games because ..."
  28. Odysseus
    Odysseus 6 December 2017 08: 09 New
    11
    The solution was expected. This classic Western win-win frog game is not immediately thrown into boiling water, but is boiled gradually.
    The bottom line is that now: either we go as it is not clear who and at the same time the athletes themselves must prove that they are clean, and the IOC deigns to approve or disapprove of them, and we will also pay money for it, despite the fact that no one guarantees that the continuation will not follow, that is, we get an unprecedented shame, either we don’t go at all and the Russian authorities accuse that they didn’t let the pure athletes go to the Olympics, plus we and one more Olympics will be decided.
    The logical ending of the authorities’s stupid attempt to PR in the sport of higher achievements was not provided with the corresponding work to at least partially take control of all these IOCs and WADA.
    The situation, of course, is worse than the governor’s, but the only logical solution now is a complete boycott, or rather not even a boycott, but rejection of all these decisions and at the same time counter proposals for reforming the IOC and WADA as a condition for our return to the Olympics.
    Well, and, of course, you need to abandon attempts to arrange a feast during the plague and control with the help of "spectacles."
    Instead of meaningless Olympics, money needs to be invested in education, healthcare, etc.
    PS By the way, the continuation of the game is obvious, they will be “for doping” to remove our national football team.
    1. BAI
      BAI 6 December 2017 12: 13 New
      +1
      The decision was expected.

      It was known at least yesterday. One political scientist wrote about him as a fait accompli yesterday, saying that a decision has already been made. Today he was just voiced. (If voiced yesterday - everything shifts accordingly by 1 day).
      1. Odysseus
        Odysseus 6 December 2017 13: 47 New
        +1
        Quote: BAI
        It was known at least yesterday. One political scientist wrote about him as a fait accompli yesterday, saying that a decision has already been made

        This is true, but I’m talking about something else. It was obvious in a couple of months since it was fully consistent with the Western strategy. They usually do not change the scheme if it works.
        The bottom line is that if they themselves completely forbade the performance of our athletes (and technically they could do it without problems), then responsibility would be on them, and so they suspend the situation and make the Russian government guilty in any case.
    2. CONTROL
      CONTROL 6 December 2017 12: 16 New
      +1
      Quote: Odyssey
      PS By the way, the continuation of the game is obvious, they will be “for doping” to remove our national football team.

      But how can doping be used in football?
      Well - a team game ... Though everyone feeds and chips, the team plays, coherence, played combinations, tactics and strategy! almost like chess ...
      ... and in chess there is doping? Well, besides vodka ...
      1. Odysseus
        Odysseus 6 December 2017 13: 51 New
        +2
        Quote: CONTROL
        But how can doping be used in football?

        No way, and dope performed by the Russian national team is a joke smile
        But reality, in general, is of no interest to anyone. The IOC’s accusations are no less absurd.
        The question is not in reality, but in our ability to influence FIFA in order to prevent this.
        Quote: CONTROL
        .and in chess there is doping? Well, besides vodka ...

        It would be necessary, and to get to the bottom of chess. In chess, not doping, there are cheaters (those who use computer hints)
        1. Town Hall
          Town Hall 6 December 2017 14: 20 New
          +1
          Quote: Odyssey
          Quote: CONTROL
          But how can doping be used in football?
          In no way




          I’m embarrassed to ask ... that is, in football it is not so important to be faster than the opponent? ... or is there running like a doe by the end of the match when the rivals are barely moving? Or speed up recovery when you need to play every 3 days ... like at the World Cup for example.
          1. Odysseus
            Odysseus 6 December 2017 18: 56 New
            +1
            Quote: Town Hall
            I’m embarrassed to ask ... that is, in football it is not so important to be faster than the opponent? ... or is there running like a doe by the end of the match when the rivals are barely moving?

            Reasonable questions, especially since, for example, Schumacher (the football goalkeeper) honestly wrote in his memoirs that they took doping. But nevertheless, the effectiveness of stimulants in complex team sports is unclear, the fact is that if it exists, it’s a lot less than in personal power.
            There were no major doping scandals in football either. But I accept your clarification, theoretically it is possible.
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      2. aiden
        aiden 6 December 2017 20: 30 New
        0
        Ask Roma Eremenko how you can take doping in football in order to be banned for 5 years
  29. dsm100
    dsm100 6 December 2017 08: 14 New
    +4
    Send all these figures from the IOC to a butterfly farm to catch
  30. enmesher
    enmesher 6 December 2017 08: 28 New
    10
    I will stop respecting my country if it allows its athletes to perform in clown costumes!
    1. Freeman
      Freeman 6 December 2017 09: 22 New
      +9
      Quote: enmesher
      I will stop respecting my country if it allows its athletes to perform in clown costumes!

      Please do not confuse a country with its rulers.
      1. BecmepH
        BecmepH 6 December 2017 12: 37 New
        0
        Quote: Freeman
        Quote: enmesher
        I will stop respecting my country if it allows its athletes to perform in clown costumes!
        Please do not confuse a country with its rulers.

        I agree with you
        I think
        enmesher
        this is what he meant
  31. Archon
    Archon 6 December 2017 08: 38 New
    10
    Sport has its own clear definition, but it seems to me that sport is primarily when you participate, and if you watch, then this is just a sight, because acrobats perform in the circus, but no one calls them athletes, although they In fact, they are engaged in sports.
    And taking this assumption into account, we can conclude that the real indicator of the country's sportiness is not in the number of gold medals and the frequency of listening to the anthem in competitions, but in the availability of sports for the entire population of the country, in the number and condition of sports grounds, in the cost of classes, in promoting sports among population and in the human assessment of a person involved in sports for himself.
    1. andrew42
      andrew42 6 December 2017 15: 30 New
      +1
      "because acrobats perform in the circus" - how aptly! "Oh, Vanya, look at what dwarfs! They are dressed in cremplen, not a Chevyon .." An outcast is someone who humiliates rides on the IOC’s almepae under a white rag. Anyone who turned around and walked away from the scum "from sports", that noble man who has a natural self-esteem.
  32. Pacifist
    Pacifist 6 December 2017 08: 38 New
    28
    How to respond? Yes, it’s extremely simple.
    1. To refuse to participate in the Olympiad by publishing an official appeal with the autopsy of all unsightly facts about doping from Western athletes, which are closed to the eyes of all and false allegations from all commissions.
    2. To prohibit, at the level of law, the broadcasting and mention in the media of information on the Olympics in Korea.
    3. To begin a criminal investigation against persons involved in the falsification and denigration of Russia (McLaren, Schwartz, Rodchenkov and the rest of the gop team) with the identification of the amount of damage and moral / reputation damage under the articles of defamation and intentional damage to business reputation.
    4. Adopt a law permitting the seizure of these persons, regardless of their place of residence, to bring to trial in the territory of the Russian Federation. It is clear that no one will apply this measure, but they intimidated themselves to such an extent that diapers will not be scattered once.
    5. Those athletes who decide to go - let them go, see paragraph 2.
    6. To stop funding all organizations involved in this mess for the period until the next OI. The decision on financing is made depending on the position for the following OI.
    7. To organize a committee for holding parallel sports competitions in Russia (we can call them the Spartakiad of the peoples of the world) with clear, honest rules and transparent conditions for all comers. It is precisely in our power. Those who believe believe me.
    8. Dates of the Spartakiad to be done with a shift of 2 years from the Olympics.
    If this is done, after 10 years IOC will stand under the door with the lowest request to let them look.

    If we die and agree to the terms of these geeks, then we deserve it ourselves.
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 6 December 2017 09: 26 New
      +4
      If you do it,
      But what about business, partners?
    2. Esoteric
      Esoteric 6 December 2017 09: 42 New
      +4
      Quote: Pacifist
      It’s clear that no one will apply this measure, but they intimidated themselves to such an extent,

      And why do we feed the special services? belay Still how to apply, and distinguished themselves in detention - to award the title of Hero of Russia ...
      Quote: Pacifist
      7. To organize a committee for holding parallel sports competitions in Russia (we can call them the Spartakiad of the peoples of the world) with clear, honest rules and transparent conditions for all comers. It is precisely in our power. Those who believe believe me.
      8. Dates of the Spartakiad to be done with a shift of 2 years from the Olympics.

      fellow Correct solution. High civic position. good
    3. bratchanin3
      bratchanin3 6 December 2017 09: 45 New
      +2
      Bravo! Everything is correct and clear. But after all, follow-up will begin on the part of tolerant athletes and their patrons, such as Tarasova.
      1. BecmepH
        BecmepH 6 December 2017 12: 49 New
        +1
        Quote: bratchanin3
        Bravo! Everything is correct and clear. But after all, follow-up will begin on the part of tolerant athletes and their patrons, such as Tarasova.

        No pity. They will chew their snot)))
    4. Nadia Muratova
      Nadia Muratova 6 December 2017 11: 02 New
      +3
      I agree with everything! just add that if we die, then they will take away football subtly, if we answer - according to an adult!) then we will think about the consequences and maybe be afraid
    5. CONTROL
      CONTROL 6 December 2017 12: 10 New
      +1
      Quote: Pacifist
      How to respond? Yes, it’s extremely simple.
      7. To organize a committee for holding parallel sports competitions in Russia (we can call them the Spartakiad of the peoples of the world) with clear, honest rules and transparent conditions for all comers. It is precisely in our power. Those who believe believe me ..
      ... and include sports not previously involved in the Olympics in the program of the Olympics ...
      8. Dates of the Spartakiad to be done with a shift of 2 years from the Olympics.
      With a shift - where? Forward, backward? ... or sideways ...
      ----------------------------------
      And the money - "shake the" oligarchs "and offshore!
    6. ustas - Crimea
      ustas - Crimea 6 December 2017 13: 39 New
      +2
      9 Invite the following countries to the Spartakiad of the peoples of the world:
      Transnistria, Abkhazia, South Ossetia, Donetsk People’s Republic, Lugansk People’s Republic, Belarus (if the Old Man does not bend to the west), North Korea, Syria, Iran.
      The rest is up to them.
    7. aiden
      aiden 6 December 2017 20: 35 New
      +2
      maybe it is better to recognize the LC and the DNI? and to conduct naval exercises joint with the DPRK during the Olympics?
  33. Skarpzd
    Skarpzd 6 December 2017 09: 02 New
    +9
    Wow!!! cool for me olymiad flashed. was supposed to start in 2018 and ended in 2017. and a member with her.
  34. Gardamir
    Gardamir 6 December 2017 09: 24 New
    +7
    What is everyone dissatisfied with? Serdyukov, "Plato", Mannerheim, the boy Kolya from Urengoy, now the Olympics. Omitted down.
    This is our country with you, this is our biography with you.
    1. BARKHAN
      BARKHAN 6 December 2017 12: 33 New
      +4
      Quote: Gardamir
      What is everyone dissatisfied with? Serdyukov, "Plato", Mannerheim, the boy Kolya from Urengoy, now the Olympics. Omitted down.
      This is our country with you, this is our biography with you.

      The picture is incomplete ... First, there was the collapse of the USSR, vouchers, privatization, the extinction of the population, the war in Chechnya, the repeated burning of accumulations, the Kursk, Rusnano nuclear submarines, the troops stopped near Tbilisi, the warped Ukraine, the recognized Bandera and unrecognized LDNRs, the plane shot down and devoted to kissing Perdogan into the anus ... I missed a lot of things from the achievements of the liberal government ... Well, what will the guarantor's decision be?
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 6 December 2017 12: 41 New
        0
        missed a lot of things from the achievements of the liberal government ..
        Well this is from the last. But the decision was already announced, the people of Russia are doomed to liberal capitalism and worship of the West.
    2. BecmepH
      BecmepH 6 December 2017 12: 54 New
      +2
      Quote: Gardamir
      What is everyone dissatisfied with? Serdyukov, "Plato", Mannerheim, the boy Kolya from Urengoy, now the Olympics. Omitted down.
      This is our country with you, this is our biography with you.

      “What is everyone dissatisfied with?” ... Suggest rejoicing at what you have listed?
      "Omitted omitted" ... Omitted omitted
      “This is our country with you, this is our biography with you.” ... This is not a sentence.
      Despite your pessimism, we are a great country!
  35. bratchanin3
    bratchanin3 6 December 2017 09: 39 New
    +6
    Entirely and completely agree with the author. Bravo to the author, he wrote everything correctly, but there is doubt about Putin’s reaction to the meanness of the West — he will take a compromising position and follow-up. And those who go under the white flag need to be with their hands up.
  36. Shukshin
    Shukshin 6 December 2017 09: 48 New
    +5
    I won’t turn on the TV at all.
    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 6 December 2017 15: 58 New
      +3
      Quote: Shukshin
      I won’t turn on the TV at all.

      Case, Vasily Makarych! Better "zero-five" - ​​and talk for life. Then we get off. yes
  37. QWERTY
    QWERTY 6 December 2017 09: 56 New
    +4
    With many years of propaganda of the Western way of life - many athletes, I think, will still go. It doesn’t matter which flag. For some, the question is dough, for some it’s a personal principle. The fact that officials from sports bleat there is understandable, specifically they don’t say anything until the opinion of the GDP on this matter is voiced. To blather something wrong and fly out of a good position - who needs it? A little later, everyone will chorus say the same thing when they understand the party’s policies.
  38. Ayman75
    Ayman75 6 December 2017 09: 57 New
    +4
    We raised the white flag when we surrendered that we surrendered.
  39. vinni-puk
    vinni-puk 6 December 2017 09: 59 New
    +4
    Which author is naive. They will say under a white rag - they will be under a white rag. What is the difference to the bureaucrats? The main thing is not to be removed from posts. The traitor is not a bespectacled cockerel (he was originally a nit), but these state ...
  40. cerbuk6155
    cerbuk6155 6 December 2017 10: 06 New
    +2
    Quote: Boris55
    "Judge them according to their works"
    A patriot is not the one who shouts the loudest: “Forward Russia!”, This is, first of all, actions.

    And why did you say that? You are for someone for the right or left, it is not clear. Maybe for Sobchak, Yavlinsky, it is not clear. But the pluses were gathered, it is obvious, many have set, and for what and some clearly, probably good friends of Gorbachev with his interesting statements in which no one understood but everyone clapped and were slammed. soldier
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  42. Gaersul
    Gaersul 6 December 2017 10: 16 New
    +5
    Good day to all. It was still significant for me yesterday when a reporter from the Zvezda channel wanted to ask a question to these IOC members, led by Bach, in Russian they started to have technical problems. This despite the fact that a couple of minutes before one of the reporters asked a question, it seems in French and they were still joking about it.
  43. enmesher
    enmesher 6 December 2017 10: 16 New
    +4
    Quote: Knowing
    The white flag is a symbol of surrender, and the Russians do not give up. [/ B]
    I remember in 1992 already "did not give up" (((
  44. johnik
    johnik 6 December 2017 10: 17 New
    +3
    Yes, let them go, let them perform in masks so that they don’t recognize. And if they find out, then they substitute the rules, accusing them of unwashed ones and taking medals again. And what's the difference - with or without the state? All the same, does not intercede!
  45. Xaron-a
    Xaron-a 6 December 2017 10: 19 New
    +4
    North Korea’s first strike will be in Korea. Do not go there, guys ... IOC itself is trying to protect you from death ..
  46. borov_2
    borov_2 6 December 2017 10: 31 New
    +5
    You, Roman, again say and say:
    and here we are not talking about Putin, but about the legion that sits lower

    The situation with our athletes is a political issue. As well as all previous events - from sanctions to tantrums of the West over the Crimea and Syria. So that IOC representatives do not talk about the non-political choice,
    everyone understands that this is a pure policy. Therefore, questions should not be passed on to athletes. And who was sent on behalf of Russia to represent its interests? Two old officials, who no longer need anything but to calmly live out their age and an 18-year-old girl. It now looks like "decisive, tough and symmetrical measures."
    And then not patriotic athletes who, for one reason or another, decide to still perform under a white rag will be to blame ...
    It was not clear in advance where everything was going? There are no special services in Russia, no intelligence? Such decisions need to be stopped before they are publicly announced - and now it’s kind of like waving one's fists after a fight.
    Any kind of measures - to block gas to Europe, to prohibit flights of foreign airlines through its territory.
    Here we are already talking about losses will not be about 15 million to go. Yes, you never know what else.
    But we have that legion, that those who are higher are entirely oriented towards the West and the pipe through which all resources are pumped out of Russia. Therefore, it is unlikely to have to wait for the "answer".
    Therefore, is it worth writing about the Medvedevs, when rockets with satellites fall and about legions of officials, when we are publicly humiliated in front of the whole world? As if these Medvedevs and legions are appointing themselves ...
    Indeed, the king’s formula is good - the bad boyars are eternal!
  47. 1536
    1536 6 December 2017 10: 32 New
    +9
    How many do not torment the keyboard, nothing will change from this. My opinion is that the Olympics should be boycotted because I don’t want to watch gladiatorial fights. This is still not the Formula 1, where designers, engineers, industrialists, car makers compete, but the racer, first of all, the cool driver, showing the achievements of a particular automobile company in person. The Olympic athlete, in my opinion, should be free from any material and monetary meanings in his speech. For him, first of all, it is important to participate, no matter how trite it sounds, at the Olympic Games held once every 4 of the year. And the Olympics are constantly being stolen from us, turning them into a bullfight, gladiatorial competitions to amuse the patricians and to the joy of all kinds of dodgers scampering in advertising, "sports support", hiding the reception of doping and other "little tricks" of the so-called Olympic sport and accompanying him "sports medicine." It's disgusting. Therefore, I am sure that those "athletes" who are "already millionaires" and the borders of Russia have become close to them, will appear under any flag. There is nothing to blame them today, and there’s nothing for it. They are not to blame for the fact that someone built a "thieving" system on the principle of a "flea circus". Well, professionals in organizations of this kind have a big top living with us in the most "exceptional country." Therefore, it’s not about our notorious fool officials. They are the victims themselves. This system was built for many years, and now it has simply become obsolete, plunged into crisis and is unlikely to get out of there. It’s better not to dig deeper, because maybe, again, this is just an assumption, such Wellsovsky "Island of Dr. Moreau" that McLaren’s reports are fifth-grader essays on a given topic. In short, it is only necessary to get upset that, apparently, the next 6 years will be simply lost for Russia.
    1. Lexus
      Lexus 6 December 2017 12: 10 New
      +2
      I don’t want to argue, but, by the way everything is broadcast in the news, with what intonation, the hedgehog understands that once again everything will be limited to “concern”. After all, ahead of the World Cup. People will be explained that money, like, has already been invested, needs to be paid back. It is equally clear how thrown away. After all, in March the elections. It is clear who will win. The reason will be found from the fact that Russia is not a democratic country. Etc. There would be a desire, and ways to adequately respond to the sea - to ban broadcasting, logos, advertising campaigns of famous western manufacturers (IOC permanent sponsors), and at the same time to stop turning a blind eye to the "usefulness" of sweet water and fast food. On contributions - a moratorium. Yes, actually, how can games and championships be called “Peace” if only a handful of the elite participate in them?
  48. LAWNER
    LAWNER 6 December 2017 10: 37 New
    +6
    As I understand it, if the Olympians are sent under the flag of no man, will the road and the officials accompanying them be paid for by the Other State as well, or the gas station state?
    If they are sent officially, in advance agreeing to the absence of Russian state symbols: Flag, Anthem. So, I, as a Citizen, can not get up to the sounds of the anthem at other state events?
    Well, in that case, I’m even glad if we return to the Flag, the Anthem and the Constitution of the USSR !!!
  49. Sergey824
    Sergey824 6 December 2017 10: 41 New
    +4
    If we are deprived of the flag and the anthem, then they understand how painful it is for us. This is not muddy to fire. Yes, you need to answer, but then, do not repeat. And besides the Olympic species, there are a bunch of other sports. How do they live, do not hang themselves? NHLers are all alive and well. Which I wish to everyone.
  50. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 6 December 2017 10: 42 New
    +3
    I wonder if we have special services ?!
    is it really impossible to put some kind of thread of a black crocodile or a tiny bach and others?
    1. CONTROL
      CONTROL 6 December 2017 11: 51 New
      +1
      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
      I wonder if we have special services ?!
      is it really impossible to put some kind of thread of a black crocodile or a tiny bach and others?

      Type - "Crocodile crawled ashore and lay on pebbles"?
      ... Strauss-Kahn was planted such a thing! ... Until now - as you recall, drrrr-zhzh sneaks ...
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 6 December 2017 12: 09 New
        0
        Quote: CONTROL
        Until now - as you recall, drrrr-zhzh sneaks ...

        double blow, not only did he lose his post so he also earned a phobia
        but in general what’s the problem, find a minor prostitute, slip, photograph and leak