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The myth of the "Russian occupation" of the Caucasus

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200 years ago, 1817, the Caucasian War began (1817 – 1864), the longest war Russia ever waged.


The Caucasian war had its long prehistory - a series of wars, conflicts, diplomatic struggle. The Caucasus became a military-strategic problem of Russia already at the time of Muscovite Russia of the 16th - 17th centuries. Then came the time of the Russian Empire, when in the Caucasus, with small interruptions, there were wars all the time with the Ottomans, Persians and mountain tribes. Throughout the empire, the Caucasus was a war zone, military campaigns, insurrections and uprisings, conspiracies and conflicts came one after the other. Only the Caucasian war with the mountaineers lasted for half a century with interruptions. And after the fall of the Romanov Empire, the world did not come to the Caucasus.

The Caucasus has always had strategic importance for Russia - as a way to the East, a place of contact with Islamic civilization and as a natural protective barrier on the southern borders of the country. In turn, for the regional - Iran, Turkey, and global - England and the United States, the opponents of Russia, this region was a "painful point", with the help of which it could have a serious impact on the entire Russian state.

Russia came to the Caucasus in the course of the natural development of its civilization project and state, when it was pushing its civilization and state limits. Later, Westerners-liberals, our enemies in the West and the East, as well as a part of Soviet historiography hostile to the “damned tsarism” (especially in the 1920 and during the post-Stalinist “thaw”) the myth that the accession of the Caucasus was carried out violently, the region became a colony of Russia, local peoples were subjected to genocide and extermination. That all problems of the Caucasian peoples are to blame for Russian and Soviet "occupiers."

However, in reality, Russia brought an advanced development project to the Caucasus, a more developed spiritual and material culture. For comparison, Westerners-Europeans, during the colonization of America, Africa, Asia, Australia and island territories, robbed, killed, raped, destroyed the indigenous population by all means, clearing the "living space" for themselves. They set off local tribes and ethnic groups among themselves, soldered them, sat down on drugs, starved them, infected them with diseases, drove them on reservations, restricted development and education, etc. And the Russians liberated the Caucasian peoples from the Ottoman and Persian yoke. Ottomans and Persians, unlike the Russians, in reality carried out the genocide of recalcitrant peoples. This is a "feature" of the Eastern policy. In modern Iraq or Syria, we saw the same picture - total extermination on the basis of religious (even within the same religion), national and tribal features. With the arrival of the Russians in the Caucasus, bloody civil strife there ceased, gangs and the slave trade disappeared, legality was established, cultural and economic takeoff began. The Russians brought urban culture with them, built new cities and brought new life to the old ones, built roads that connected a huge region, developed local economy, science and education, health care, turned previously wild places into sanatoriums, health resorts, recreation centers, etc.

A sure sign of Russia's positive influence on the development of the Caucasus is a large-scale increase in the population of the previously sparsely populated, deserted or devastated by wars, invasions and fishers of the people (slave traders) of the region. Previously, population growth was restrained (with high fertility) or the population in some areas was even reduced by constant large-scale external invasions of the Ottomans and Persians, when the invaders arranged, in fact, regional genocide, while simultaneously removing large masses of the population to settle in Turkey or Persia or into slavery; internal wars, strife, inter-clan and tribal slaughter; wide slave traders hunt for people (Circassian concubines were famous for their beauty and grace from Persia and Turkey to North Africa and Southern Europe); low level of development of the economy, which could not feed more people, etc.

Thus, the fates of the Caucasus and Russia became one, the Caucasian peoples became part of the Russian multinational civilization. The Russians brought progress and civilization to the Caucasus. But at all times there were dark forces, including abroad, who opposed this process.

The myth of the "Russian occupation" of the Caucasus

Military sketch of Franz Roubaud

Milestones

As a result of two successful wars with Persia (1804-1813) and the Ottoman Empire (1806-1812), Russia acquired the Karabakh, Gandzhinskoe, Sheki, Derbent, Cuban khanates, seeking recognition of the rights to Guria and Megrelia. The inclusion of part of the Transcaucasus in Russia was of great military-strategic and economic importance.

However, the inclusion of part of Georgia, Eastern Armenia and Northern Azerbaijan into Russia raised the issue of the accession of the North Caucasus, which had an important strategic position. The Russian government could not fully solve its tasks in Transcaucasia, without consolidating in the North Caucasus. Russia could not come to terms with the existence of a wild region (in civilizational, socio-cultural and economic terms), which was already in the ring of the lands of the empire. It was necessary to introduce it into a single civilizational, state, cultural and economic space.


Map of the Caucasus region (1801 — 1813). Compiled in the military history department at the headquarters of the Caucasian Military District by lieutenant colonel V.I. Tomkeev. Tiflis, 1901 year

The Russian government could deal with this problem only after the end of the wars with Napoleon. In 1816, the general, the hero of the 1820 war of the year, AP Yermolov, was appointed commander of a separate Georgian (from 1812 - Caucasian) corps. After reviewing the plan of Yermolov, Emperor Alexander ordered: "To conquer the mountain peoples gradually, but strongly, to occupy only what can be kept for them, do not spread it except by becoming firm foot and ensuring the occupied space from the attempts of the hostile."

Considering the psychology of the mountain tribes, their unbridled self-will and hostility towards the Russians, the new commander-in-chief decided that it was absolutely impossible to establish peaceful relations under the existing conditions. Ermolov made a consistent and systematic plan of offensive action. Ermolov did not leave with impunity a single robbery and raid of the Highlanders. He did not start decisive actions without first equipping the bases and creating offensive bridgeheads. Among the components of the Yermolov plan were the construction of roads, the creation of glades, the erection of fortifications, the Cossacks' colonization of the region, the formation of “layers” between tribes hostile to Russia by resetting there pro-Russian childbirth.

“The Caucasus,” said Yermolov, “is a huge fortress protected by a half-million garrison. It is necessary either to storm it, or to seize the trenches. The assault will be expensive. So let's lead the siege! ”With 1817, Yermolov began a systematic attack on the areas of Chechnya and Dagestan, accompanied by the construction of fortified points and the construction of safe roads. Thanks to his activities, the ring of economic and political blockade around this turbulent and wild region was tightening all the time.

Yermolov moved the left flank of the Caucasian line from Terek to Sunzha, where he strengthened the Nazranovsky redoubt and laid in October 1817 fortification of the Pregrand Stan in its middle course. In the autumn of 1817, the Caucasian troops were reinforced by the corps of Count Vorontsov who had arrived from France. With the arrival of these forces, Yermolov had a total of about 4 divisions, and he could take decisive action. The Zakuban Circassians threatened the right flank of the Caucasian line, Kabardians were in the center, and Chechens lived against the left flank behind the Sunzha River. At the same time, the Circassians were weakened by internal strife, the Kabardians squandered the plague - the danger was threatened primarily by the Chechens.

From Yermolov's notes: “... From the peaks of Kuban, on the left bank, there live peoples under the Ottoman Porte under the general name Zakubanis, known, warlike, rarely calm ... Kabarda, once populous, whose inhabitants are revered by the bravest among the mountaineers, often in their populations, lies opposite the center of the line they fiercely opposed the Russians in bloody battles ... Morov's ulcer was our ally against the Kabardians; for, having completely destroyed the entire population of Little Kabarda and causing havoc in the Bolshoi, they weakened them so much that they could not gather in large forces as before, but made raids in small batches; otherwise, our troops, in a large space of weak, dispersed parts, could be endangered. Very many expeditions to Kabarda were undertaken, sometimes forcing them to return or pay for the abductions made. ... Downstream of the Terek live Chechens, the most evil of the robbers attacking the line. Their society is very sparsely populated, but it has multiplied enormously in the past few years, for the villains of all other nations have been friendly accepted, leaving their land for any crimes. Here they found accomplices who were immediately ready either to revenge for them, or to participate in robberies, and they served them as faithful guides in the lands that they themselves were not familiar with. Chechnya can rightly be called the nest of all the robbers ... ".

In the spring of 1818, Yermolov launched an offensive against Chechnya. In 1818, in the lower reaches of the river, the Russian fortress of Grozny was founded. It was believed that this measure would put an end to the uprisings of the Chechens who lived between Sunzha and Terek, but in fact it was the beginning of a new war with the highlanders. Yermolov moved from individual punitive expeditions to a systematic offensive deep into Chechnya and Gorny Dagestan by surrounding the mountainous areas with a solid ring of fortifications with cutting through glades in difficult forests, laying roads and destroying the most hostile villages. In Dagestan, the mountaineers were pacified, threatening Tarkovsky’s Shamkhalism linked to Russia. In 1819, the fortune of Sudden was built to keep the Highlanders in submission. An attempt to attack her, undertaken by the Avar Khan, ended in complete failure. In Chechnya, Russian forces pushed Chechens farther and farther into the mountains and resettled a peacefully-minded population on the plain under the protection of Russian garrisons. A clearing was cut through a dense forest to the village of Germenchuk, which served as one of the main highlanders' bases.

In 1820, the Black Sea Cossack army (up to 40 thousand people) was added to the composition of the Separate Georgian Corps, renamed the Separate Caucasian Corps and reinforced by additional troops. In 1821, on the top of the mountain, on the slopes of which was the town of Tarki - the capital of Tarkovsky Shamkhalstvo, the fortress was built. Moreover, during the construction, the troops of the Avar Khan Akhmet were defeated, trying to prevent the work. The possessions of the Dagestan princes, who had suffered a series of defeats in 1819-1821, were transferred to the allies of Russia and subordinated to the Russian commandants, or liquidated.

On the right flank of the line, the Zakuban Circassians with the help of the Turks became more worried about the border. Their troops invaded the lands of the Black Sea army in October 1821, but were defeated. In Abkhazia, Major General Prince Gorchakov defeated the rebels near Cape Kodor and took over the possession of Prince Dmitry Shervashidze. For the complete pacification of Kabarda in 1822, a series of fortifications were built at the base of the mountains from Vladikavkaz to the headwaters of the Kuban. Including the fortress was founded Nalchik (1818 g. Or 1822 g.). In 1823-1824 A number of punitive expeditions were conducted against the highlanders of the Zucban. In 1824, the Black Sea Abkhaz, who had risen against the successor of Prince D. Shervashidze, Prince Mikhail Shervashidze, were compelled to submit.

In the 20 of the nineteenth century, the anti-Russian movement of the Highlanders of the Caucasus took on a religious connotation. The ideology of Muridism began to form on the basis of Islam. It was based on the principles of strict observance of Muslim rituals, unconditional obedience to the leaders and mentors. His followers proclaimed the impossibility of subordinating a legitimate Muslim to a non-believing monarch. At the end of the 20-s in the territory of Chechnya and Dagestan, on the basis of this ideology, a military-theocratic state formation of the Imamate was formed. The first imam was Gazi-Magomet, who called for the mountaineers to wage a holy war against the Russians. The movement of the mountaineers under the flag of Muridism was the impetus for the expansion of the Caucasian War, although some mountain peoples (Kumyks, Ossetians, Ingushs, Kabardians) did not join it.

In 1825, a general uprising began in Chechnya. On July 8, the Highlanders seized the Amirajiyurt post and tried to take up Gerzel fortifications. July 15 was rescued by Lieutenant-General Lisanevich. The next day, Lisanevich and General Grekov were killed by Chechen mullah Ochar-Khadzhi during talks with the elders. Ochar-Khadzhi attacked General Grekov with a dagger, and also fatally wounded General Lisanevich, who tried to help Grekov. In response to the murder of two generals, the troops killed all the Chechen and Kumyk elders invited to the talks. The uprising was suppressed only in 1826. The coastal areas of the Kuban were again subjected to attacks by large parties of the Shapsugs and Abadzekhs. The Kabardians became agitated. In 1826, a number of trips to Chechnya were carried out, with deforestation, laying of glades and suppression of hostile villages. This ended the activities of Yermolov. In 1827, Tsar Nicholas I withdrew the famous general and dismissed due to independent behavior and suspicion of having connections with secret societies (Decembrists).

The successor of Yermolov was I.F. Paskevich. In 1830, he addressed the “Proclamation to the population of Dagestan and the Caucasus Mountains”, in which he declared Gazi-Magomed a troublemaker and declared war against him. Soon the first imam died. The second imam was Gamzat-Bek, who died of blood feud. Thus, Russia was firmly drawn into the Caucasian War. Calculations for a quick victory were not justified. The unusual conditions of the mountain war, the problem of communications, the stubborn resistance of the mountaineers, the lack of a unified strategy and tactics of military operations stretched this war for more than thirty years.

In 1834, the new imam proclaimed Shamil (1797 – 1871) - the son of an Avar peasant, the brightest and most talented person among the leaders of the highlanders. He was distinguished by a good education, courage, military talent, and religious fanaticism. He managed to concentrate in his hands the full power, thereby strengthening the state, to accumulate serious military forces. 1840-e years were the time of his greatest success. Shamil managed to inflict several defeats on the Russian army. In 1843, he expanded the uprising zone, deploying hostilities in Northern Dagestan. but the defeat of the highlanders was inevitable. Russia presented a development project, and the mountaineers dragged the Caucasus region into the past - civil strife, tribal relations, slavery, early feudalism and religious fanaticism. The Caucasian war was delayed by the fact that Russia was distracted by other wars and conflicts, in particular, the Eastern (Crimean) war.

In 1845, MS Vorontsov was appointed governor of the Transcaucasus, having received extraordinary powers. However, his military expedition ended in failure. In 1846, Shamil invaded Ossetia and Kabarda, intending to push the boundaries of his state to the west. But Shamil's expansionist plans did not match the economic and military potential of the Imamate. Since the end of the 40-ies, this state began to decline. During the Crimean War, Shamil tried to help the Turkish army, but in the end was defeated. Capturing Tsinandali in 1854 was his last major success.

After the Crimean War, the tsarist government launched a decisive attack on Shamil. Significantly increased the number of Russian army. In August, Alexander II appointed 1856 the governor of the Caucasus and the new commander-in-chief of the Caucasian army, Prince A. I. Baryatinsky. In 1857 – 1859 he managed to conquer all of Chechnya and launch an offensive against Dagestan. In August, 1859, after a fierce battle in the village of Gunib, Shamil was captured. Imamat ceased to exist. The last major center of resistance of the mountaineers - the Kbaade tract - was taken by Russian troops in 1864 year. The perennial Caucasian War is over.

True, after that the Caucasus did not become a completely peaceful region. At turning points stories The Caucasus becomes a "pain point" of Russiasince neither in the Russian empire nor in the Soviet Union this particular area of ​​the empire was ever fully civilized. In peacetime, when Russia shows strength and stable development, the Caucasus is calm, but during the “change” all the old “sores” immediately return. This was clearly manifested during the collapse of the Russian Empire and the Civil War, during the Great Patriotic War, which led to the tragedy of deportation. Then the collapse of the Soviet empire led to a series of violent conflicts in the Caucasus. At the same time, our western and eastern "partners" have always tried and are trying to use the Caucasus against Russian civilization in order to crush and destroy Russia. At present, the region is temporarily reassured by the fact that it allowed them to return to “local peculiarities” - cronyism, religiosity, etc., and began to provide large-scale financial support to the local ethnocracy (in the old notions of “tribute”).

However, this is a flawed solution that is suitable only for a short time period. The region is gradually “boiling”, driven into the depths of the problem, sooner or later it will have to be solved, or they will blow up the Caucasus and a significant part of Russia. Thus, among the large-scale problems one can single out the repression and flight of the Russian population (in particular, Chechnya is already a mono-ethnic region); archaization; strengthening the position of radical (“black”) Islam; social injustice that leads hundreds and thousands of young people to search for the truth and leads many to the ranks of the “caliphate”; ethnic mafia; a wide range of socio-economic problems, etc.

In general, the future of the Caucasus, as well as of the whole of Russia, depends on whether a new development project based on social justice and ethics of conscience will be launched. (possibly as a renewed Soyuz-2). Otherwise, sooner or later we will get a new large-scale Caucasian war, into which all the existing “pain points” of the huge region will merge: Karabakh, Georgia, Abkhazia, Ossetia, Chechnya, gangster and jihadist underground in a number of republics, etc. And all this will be part of a big turmoil.
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  1. Basil50
    Basil50 6 December 2017 06: 52 New
    +6
    Much has been written about the war in the Caucasus and everything is known. That's just to please new trends in the North Caucasus, in the Transcaucasia more and more * free * interpretations * of events appear, all the more so there are customers with generous payment. Some opuses are authored by trained and even having degrees in different sciences, and nothing, they are even published and introduced into the masses. It is enough to read the Georgian-Armenian-Azerbaijani media, or listen to political scientists from these countries, it will be a conclusion about colonization and about genocide and about many other equally negative.
    The main accusations are the unwillingness of the RUSSIANS and RUSSIA to fulfill the wishes of these terribly independent and proud countries in their independence. And of course, the fact that no more Georgians-Armenians-Azerbaijan lives in RUSSIA as in Transcaucasia, which is also a shame for these countries.
  2. parusnik
    parusnik 6 December 2017 07: 29 New
    +4
    The conclusions are correct, it will not lead to good ... A. Gaidar has a story "The Riders of the Blue Mountains", a bibliographic rarity, I have 4 volumes of works, this story is not there .. Mentioned in the preface, but recognized as weak by Soviet criticism. . But the story, very interesting, I would say is consonant with our time ...
    1. moskowit
      moskowit 6 December 2017 10: 55 New
      +2
      This is where in the tower sat a chained machine gunner? In the family library there was a two-volume book of selected works by A. Gaidar ... Apparently the end of the 50's ... I read it as a child ... Naturally I didn’t understand anything ... The rebels had medieval weapons, and the feudal machine gun .... she is on the Internet, two years ago I remembered, found, flipped through .....
      1. moskowit
        moskowit 6 December 2017 11: 14 New
        +3
        I found an image of these books, though not very high quality ....
        1. parusnik
          parusnik 6 December 2017 12: 19 New
          +1
          Yes .. yes .. where is the machine gunner .. But the bottom line ... they don’t need changes ... They are all happy with it ... And who is not there in the furnace ..
    2. bandabas
      bandabas 6 December 2017 18: 23 New
      +1
      Which one do you have? Blue, mid-70s editions? I’ll get to my parents tomorrow, take a look. It’s just interesting, and I haven’t read Gaidar for a long time.
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 6 December 2017 19: 19 New
        +1
        No, light brown ...
      2. moskowit
        moskowit 6 December 2017 20: 31 New
        +2
        Parents definitely need to visit ... But if you "caught fire" to read and download here ...
        http://az.lib.ru/g/gajdar_a_p/index.shtml#gr4...
        The story is correctly called "Horsemen of the impregnable mountains" ... Alexey and I confused one word in the title of the story for the limitation of time .....
        1. bandabas
          bandabas 9 December 2017 08: 42 New
          0
          And to visit here? I always visit them. It’s just that they still have a good library, and my grandfather collected it. There was such a thing, a subscription to books. And I read the story, not in my collection. Anyway, thanks.
  3. Nikitin
    Nikitin 6 December 2017 07: 40 New
    +6
    However, this is a flawed decision, which is suitable only for a short time period. The region is gradually “boiling”, the problems driven into the depths will have to be solved sooner or later, or they will blow up the Caucasus and a significant part of Russia. So, among large-scale problems, one can single out the crowding out and flight of the Russian population (in particular, Chechnya is already a mono-ethnic region);

    The Russian Caucasus was made precisely by the Russian population of the Caucasus — Cossacks and peasants, who actively settled the Caucasus before 1917 and were actively supported by the state.
    The Bolsheviks made a bet on the "Red Highlanders", evicting and destroying the Cossacks, passing the lands and villages to the "dying" Highlanders. taken from the Russians.
    March 27 - Genocide Day of the Terek Cossack Army-the terrible tragedy of the destruction of Russian people.

    With the exception of the period of deportation, the policy of pacification of the highlanders at the expense of the rights of the Russians continued all the time.
    The result indicated by the author is also logical.

    Without Russians, the Russian Caucasus is IMPOSSIBLE!
    1. badens1111
      badens1111 6 December 2017 12: 34 New
      +8
      Quote: Nikitin-
      With the exception of the period of deportation, the policy of pacification of the highlanders at the expense of the rights of the Russians continued all the time.

      Lie.
      Why are you misinterpreting events?
      Your "policy" of de-Caucasianizing the Caucasus - the fruits of the disaster of the 90s, the fruits of the efforts of Yeltsin and his criminal gang. And by the way, such exhausts as yours fit into the framework of the substitution of concepts - under the USSR, the Russian population, including in the Caucasus, grew, after 92 years is steadily decreasing, so who is to blame for this if not like you?
      The second question, which you have intensely hushed up, is not the desire of the Russians to give birth to children, again “thanks” to the efforts of the liberal public entrenched in power, including in its financial and economic structures, as well as in culture.
      http://ruskline.ru/analitika/2013/12/30/kavkazski
      j_demograficheskij_drejf /
      It is unlikely that you will understand, but those who can read will understand something for themselves.
      Currently, such figures as N.N. are engaged in demographic problems. Baransky, D.I. Valentine, T.I. Zaslavskaya, let's stop at Madame Zaslavskaya .. if this madam, like her, is in charge of our demographics, then depopulation is inevitable, you need to know your “doubtful” heroes who have remained since the 90s and influence decision-making today ..http: //mirznanii.com/a/305905/sovremennye-
      demograficheskie-protsessy-v-stavropolskom-krae-i
      -na-severnom-kavkaze
      Read how it breathes ..
      https://texts.news/istoriya-sotsiologii-knigi/zas
      lavskaya-perestroyke-reformah-60539.html
      and how
      http://militariorg.ucoz.ru/publ/istorija_strany/k
      ak_jakovlev_i_zaslavskaja_organizovyvali_perestro
      jku / 19-1-0-75025
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 6 December 2017 19: 22 New
        +5
        Why are you misinterpreting events?
        In Nikitin, this is a common thing .. He even claims that the Brest Peace is still operating ...
        1. badens1111
          badens1111 7 December 2017 09: 20 New
          +2
          Quote: parusnik
          He even claims that the Brest Peace is still in effect ...

          A ... hard case ... belay
        2. Nikitin
          Nikitin 8 December 2017 15: 49 New
          0
          Quote: parusnik
          Why are you misinterpreting events?
          In Nikitin, this is a common thing .. He even claims that the Brest Peace is still operating ...

          What is the matter, dear? fool
      2. Nikitin
        Nikitin 7 December 2017 09: 23 New
        +2
        Quote: badens1111
        Brekhna

        So do not "break"! Who makes you something? belay And the ugly word you use
        Quote: badens1111
        Your "policy" of the derusification of the Caucasus - the fruits of the disaster of 90 years,

        The genocide of the Terek Cossacks and the creation of national, NEVER existent "statehoods of the highlanders is Russification, yes." fool

        -From a draft resolution of the Politburo of the Central Committee of the RCP (B.), Adopted on October 14, 1920: "On the agrarian issue, it is necessary to recognize the return to the highlanders of the North Caucasus of the lands taken from them by the Great Russians"
        - Order No. 01721: the first - Art. Kalinovskaya burn; the second - the villages of Yermolovskaya, Zakan-Yurtovskaya, Samashkinskaya, Mikhailovskaya - to give to the poorest landless population, and first of all, always to the former devotees of Soviet power, upland Chechens: why the entire male population of the aforementioned villages from 18 to 50 years old should be loaded into echelons and sent to the North under escort for heavy forced labor; old people, women and children to be evicted from the villages, allowing them to move to farms or villages to the North; horses, cows, sheep and other cattle, as well as equipment suitable for military purposes, to transfer to the Cavtrudarmia
        -From the telegram of a member of the Revolutionary Military Council of the Caucasian Labor Army, G.K. Vrachev Ordzhonikidze of November 1, 1920: "The eviction of the villages is successful... Today I had a meeting with Chechens - representatives of villages. Chechen mood is excellent, they are happy indefinitely and declare that our act is a great historical event for them. ”
        The Russian massacre continued in 1957, in 1958, more than a hundred thousand Russians fled outside the Checheno-Soviet Socialist Republic, the authorities suppressed the Russians’s appearance in their defense.
        This is your "Russification"! fool The "gratitude" of the nationals is indicative - he took everything, and then spat on the benefactors.
        Quote: badens1111
        The second question, which you are stubbornly hushed up, is not the desire of the Russians to give birth to children, again “thanks” to the efforts of the liberal public

        The Russians stopped giving birth under YOU: is it not a shame to be so UNLIMITED and not to know the history of your people?
        Not a single generation of Russians after 1910 was born-did not reproduce itself, and extinction has begun in 1964 city.
        Even in the USSR, this was recognized (Perevedentsev "The population of the USSR yesterday, today, tomorrow" M. 1972).
        Learn, comrade, today there’s hundreds of times more information than with you.
    2. The centurion
      The centurion 6 December 2017 19: 05 New
      +6
      Quote: Nikitin-
      The Russian Caucasus was made precisely by the Russian population of the Caucasus — Cossacks and peasants, who actively settled the Caucasus before 1917 and were actively supported by the state.

      Documents show that even in the XVI century. fugitive Russians, mostly Cossacks and peasants, based their settlements in the North Caucasus. Settling the Cossacks Terek refers to about the same time as the settlement of the Cossacks Yaik. In 1520, after the annexation of the Ryazan principality to the Moscow state, part of the Ryazan town Cossacks, not wanting to serve the Moscow prince, descended the Volga into the Caspian Sea and landed at the mouth of the Terek. The settlers formed two communities: those who settled on the Terek itself began to be called "Terek", and those who were closer to the "ridge" (spurs of the mountains) - "Greben" Cossacks. After joining Astrakhan to Russia, the Russian troops and the Volga Cossacks who served Russia strengthened at the mouth of the Volga and went into the Caspian Sea. From here, a free waterway opened east to the mouth of the Yaik (Ural) and to the Caucasus, at the mouth of the Terek. "Thieves" Volga, Don and Dnieper Cossacks, who went "for zipuns" to the Caspian coast, if they did not have time to return before the winter, also often wintered in the Terek villages.
      The next sending of the Cossacks to the Caucasus took place in 1563. Then the 500 Cossacks and 5 atamans went along with the archers to help the allied Russia Circassian Prince Temryuk. Then, in 1577, the Astrakhan voivode L. Novosiltsev, at the request of the allied Circassians, set up the city of Turka at the confluence of the Sunzha and Terek rivers and left a garrison of archers and town Cossacks there. In 1583, the city of Turk was moved to the mouth of the Terek. For a while, on the Terek, there were servicemen of Cossacks and free servicemen who robbed "in carriages and swamps", whose settlements served as a refuge for freemen from all over the Caucasus. Their attacks on merchants and ambassadors several times exacerbated Russia's relations with Turkey and Persia. In 1584, the Russian ambassador in Constantinople put it this way: “You know yourself that there are thieves on the Terek and on the Don, fugitive people, without the knowledge of the sovereign, they don’t listen to anyone, and I don’t care about the Cossacks?”
      During the period of the strengthening of the Russian state along its borders along the most important strategic directions, borderline fortified lines were created, representing a system of fortresses and fortified points guarded by troops and Cossacks. In 1735, with the construction of the fortress of Kizlyar in the lower reaches of the Terek, the Caucasian fortified lines began. Since that time, the fortification system created in the south for the first time is called the Caucasian cordon line. In order to more reliably protect this border and secure the territory, the Russian government set about strengthening the security line of the Cossack settlements. To this end, in 1763 Mozdok fortress was built on the Terek, where 517 families of Volga Cossacks were relocated. So Mozdok regiment was formed. After Kyuchuk-Kainarji world in 1774, Azov and the area adjacent to it to the Kuban were ceded to Russia. The line along the Terek River was already covered by infrequent settlements and fortifications of the Terek and Greben Cossacks, and there was absolutely no Russian population in the area from Azov to Mozdok. With the transfer of the borders of Russia to the foothills of the Caucasus, the Russians came into contact with numerous peoples and tribes living in the mountains and foothills, differing from each other in language, culture, faith, and level of social development. With some (Kabardians), the Russians had long-standing friendly diplomatic and cultural ties, while others immediately began to disturb the new neighbors with raids and robberies. One of the industries of peoples at the stage of the tribal system, was horsemanship, i.e. Those same campaigns “behind the zipuns”, inherent both to the Cossacks, and the mountain young people constantly raided the neighboring territories with the aim of ordinary robbery. All this forced the Russian authorities to build a system of interconnected fortifications from the Caspian Sea to the Azov and Black Seas. Highlanders did not put up with the construction of fortresses in the disputed territories. Constantly flared up conflicts of Russian troops with entire nations. As a result, the Russian (especially the Cossacks) went to the return raids and even more carefully strengthened the border. In 1777 was part of the Volga Cossacks was settled from Mozdok to the Tomuzuzlovka River, and the Volga Regiment was formed. From Tomuzuzlovka to Yegorlyk, Cossacks transferred from Khopyr were settled, making up the Khopersky regiment. Between the Don Oblast and Yegorlyk five Cossack villages who fled to Don were settled, evicted from the Don, and formed a security line from Kagalnik to Yegorlyk. Cossacks, who formed the left flank of the Caucasian defensive system, in 1776 were united in a single Astrakhan Cossack army. This army included: Grebensky army, Terek-Kizlyar, Terek-Marines, the Volga army resettled here and resettled to the Caucasus in 1777. Hopper Cossack regiment. In addition, the army included Mozdok and Astrakhan Cossack regiments. But the most significant measure of strengthening the defensive line was the formation of a Cossack army in the Kuban. Starting from 1792 from the Black Sea coast between the Dnieper and the Bug, the Black Sea Cossack army was transferred to the Kuban. Completed by thousands of Don Cossack families, they built 40 Kuren from the mouth of the Kuban River to the mouth of the Laba River, taking 30000 square miles of lands, and founded the city of Ekaterinodar, where a military command was organized.
  4. capitosha1rang
    capitosha1rang 6 December 2017 08: 51 New
    +4
    What words! As it sounds, "... she came to the Caucasus in the course of the logical development of her civilization project and state, when she pushed her civilizational and state boundaries."
    One to one, about the same thing 90 wrote years ago, a corporal poisoned by gases and an unrecognized artist Schiklgruber (better known as Hitler), referring to the civilization project Russia.
    1. ando_bor
      ando_bor 6 December 2017 13: 24 New
      +1
      Quote: capitosha1rang
      One to one, about the same thing 90 wrote years ago, a corporal poisoned by gases and an unrecognized artist Schiklgruber (better known as Hitler), referring to the civilization project Russia.

      Yes, it was easy for Hitler to blame the Germans that they were the coolest of all, because it really was, it was enough to keep silent that they were the coolest only in Germany, because he himself didn’t catch up with this, and in the adjacent similar territories it went well, when the neighbors relaxed or screwed up, and in Russia and its environs, the Russians are the coolest and many of those who did not understand this no longer remember their name.
  5. Dimmih
    Dimmih 6 December 2017 09: 54 New
    +5
    It is stated, actually, long, verbose. Briefly, it sounds like this: to stop the robber raids, partly incited by weakening Turkey, it was decided to annex the Caucasus. It should be noted, however, that the highlanders raided not out of inborn foulness (as some mistakenly believe), but because they did not see another life. The cure for this lifestyle was bitter for both the doctor and the sick ... And the preventive measure is one-strong state power in the subjects of the federation, where tribal relations are strong.
    1. Prometey
      Prometey 6 December 2017 10: 50 New
      +3
      Quote: Dimmih
      It should be noted, however, that the highlanders raided not out of inborn foulness (as some mistakenly believe), but because they did not see another life.

      Your comment is quite robust. To consider the conquest (accession) of the Caucasus, to anyone as you like, from a right-to-blame position is completely futile. Although even during the war with the highlanders, officials of the tsarist military administration in the Caucasus tried to understand the economic essence of the existence of the raiding system. General N.N. Raevsky, who fought with the Circassians on the Black Sea coast in the 40s of the 19th century, wrote that their inner poverty prompted the robberies and raids of the highlanders. He himself, without denying the need for military influence, was an opponent of the military and economic blockade of the Circassians.
      General Ermolov, who decided with one blow to end the raids, did not understand their essence. He considered them a psychological way of life of the highlanders, but did not see their socio-economic component.
      By the way, the first imam of Dagestan, Kazi-Mulla, at first sent his weapons not against the Russians, but against his fellow tribesmen - like Avars. When Russia got into these internecine showdowns, it very quickly became a collective image of the enemy, which later could also be declared a ghazavat.
      1. ando_bor
        ando_bor 6 December 2017 12: 18 New
        +2
        Quote: Prometey
        General N.N. Raevsky, who fought with the Circassians on the Black Sea coast in the 40s of the 19th century, wrote that their inner poverty prompted the robberies and raids of the highlanders.

        I don’t know the Caucasus, and in particular those places, I know history, and thought about this issue.
        - Climatic changes led to the distress of the mountaineers, - increased humidity, they lost their landscapes, mainly pastures, - where everything was covered with forest below, the snow lay higher until the middle of summer, everything was washed away in the valleys, the exit was raids, or something to get, or just shrink.
        And then there was Russia, which was attracted by the foothill lands, which became suitable for farming, where previously only Nogai cattle were grazed.
        And most of all, this Circassians affected, there are different reasons, and the landscape and social organization.
        1. badens1111
          badens1111 6 December 2017 12: 36 New
          +1
          Quote: ando_bor
          And then there was Russia, which was attracted by the foothill lands, which became suitable for farming, where previously only Nogai cattle were grazed.

          Actually, the strongest in the Caucasus and having the most extensive possessions and pastures in the foothills were the Kabardian princes, was it in vain that the Russian tsars were related to them? The same Ivan the Terrible.
          1. ando_bor
            ando_bor 6 December 2017 13: 47 New
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            Quote: badens1111
            Actually, the strongest in the Caucasus and having the most extensive possessions and pastures in the foothills were the Kabardian princes, was it in vain that the Russian tsars were related to them?

            Humidity in the Caucasus decreases from West to East, the Kabardians are the easternmost Adyghe people, the most numerous, their pastures have not yet been overgrown with forest and there is little snow there, the least affected. This is about the Caucasian war, and what happened under Ivan the Terrible is a different story, not related to the topic.
            1. badens1111
              badens1111 6 December 2017 18: 28 New
              +2
              Quote: ando_bor
              This is about the Caucasian war

              And what about the Caucasian War? Who was the greatest resistance? Kabardins? No, Ossetians, no, but Chechens and Circassians, sponsored by the Turks and the Angles, yes.
      2. ando_bor
        ando_bor 6 December 2017 13: 03 New
        +1
        Quote: Prometey
        To consider the conquest (accession) of the Caucasus, to anyone as you like, from a right-to-blame position is completely futile.

        Quite right, emotional evaluations in history do not work, only natural dependencies work, I just said a little, and almost every mover has natural causes, in the Caucasus I understand a lot, because I know him well.
        It is difficult to understand the natural causes, especially in those days, although many guessed.
        For example: - It’s easier to declare the superfluous, the most unnecessary and burn the witch, - the rest will get more grub, and society will consolidate in difficult times, because many witches really took a step to the side.
        Something similar happens regularly, climate change is the driving force of history, until a certain period almost the only one, the Russians were not always lucky, before the Mongols came to Russia, Mongolia came there, everything was dry, there was nothing to eat, everyone began to cut, it was reduced, and there are also Mongols.
        And this is another trend, the Russians conkered, and they went to expand, but Russia has already entered a post-landscape civilization, although the connection remained, and the highlanders and nomads lived on the land purely, and they still did not climate.
        Now this trend of increasing humidity in our country continues, and the East is in antiphase - it dries, there is real tension - that's why they are cutting, in the current post-landscape conditions, peace can be ensured, but this requires strong power, any power that did not fall under the Americans , for this natural tension is used.
        They perfectly know and use these laws.
        Here, there was an article, (they raised it in the comments on haha) that the Americans associate an increase in temperature in the East with an increase in tension - this is a direct correlation.
        But now Russia is working on these natural historical dependencies, as I understand them, I see.
      3. The centurion
        The centurion 6 December 2017 18: 56 New
        +3
        Quote: Prometey
        By the way, the first imam of Dagestan, Kazi-Mullah, initially directed his weapons not against the Russians, but against his fellow tribesmen - like the Avars

        In 20 XIX century. religious authority Mohammed Yaragsky formulated the basic principles and provisions of muridism. As a result, the image of the enemy and the ideology of the raid system towards Russia was formed. Shamil and Kazi-Mulla accepted Sharia precisely under the influence of Muhammad Yaragsky. At the same time, one should not forget that “Gazavat” is a war not only with Russia, but with everyone who does not accept Sharia. Be it a Chechen, Dagestan, Georgian or Russian. But Gazavat perfectly ideologically substantiated the raid system. The Highlanders did not always justify the raids, they were condemned by the tribal organization. And here Sharia, gazavat - everything is justified. Formerly, the mountain raids were traditionally oriented towards Georgia. But when the Russian border appeared, and behind it rich cities and Cossack villages, reorientation to the north began, towards them. Based on this doctrine, which requires unconditional obedience of Muslims to mentors, contempt for worldly life, unquestioning fulfillment of Sharia norms, part of the mountain elite united various layers of highlanders against their major feudal lords and against the Russian presence in the Caucasus. The war broke out with a new force.
        At the same time, the Russian-Persian and Russian-Turkish wars diverted Russian forces from the Caucasus to the Transcaucasus. This gave the Murids a new impetus. From 1828, the Avarian Gazi-Muhammad (Kazi-Mulla) became the head of the Murids movement, who received the title of Imam of Chechnya and Dagestan, that is, the spiritual leader of the Murids, from Muhammad Yaragsky. Supporters of Ghazi Mohammed demanded the introduction of Sharia from the Avar khans. Having received a refusal from the Khans, Shamil, Gamzat-bek and Ghazi-Mohammed raised an uprising in Avariya, launching hostilities of one group of highlanders against another. In Dagestan, a civil war began. In 1830, the soldiers of Gazi-Mohammed laid siege to the capital of Avaria, Khunzakh, and Khansha Pahu-Bike stood at the head of the defenders. On the side of the Avar khans were Russian troops. Russia considered the local tribes to be their subjects. In 1831-32. Gazi-Mohammed won a number of victories, raiding Derbent, Groznaya, Vladikavkaz and Kizlyar. But in 1832, he died in battle with Russian troops.

        Mohammed Yaragsky
        1. Lekxnumx
          Lekxnumx 6 December 2017 23: 22 New
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          What do you know about Yaragsky? What did some historian say on the basis of his conclusions?
          Muridism by dervishes hermits does not mean that the barbarian propagandized raids, it is meager thinking, it is simply low.
          What Yaragsky talked about can be understood by reading his own words the book "Asar"
          Why they demonize Yaragsky because he was not Kadyrov, but spoke these words and taught this we read below.
          "A Muslim cannot be anyone's slave or served and must not pay tribute to anyone, not even a Muslim."
          the inspired confession of the faith of their fathers, which makes him strong;

          - the acquisition by each person of freedom and equality in rights and obligations;

          - the eradication of the spirit of slavery, which fetters him;

          - consider it a disgrace to be under someone’s oppression, be it oppressed by co-religionists or infidels;

          - the inadmissibility of a Muslim becoming a slave to someone and paying taxes, even to a true believer;

          - unacceptability for free Muslim citizenship;

          - rejection of life in slavery among foreign peoples;

          - the realization that the prayers of the slaves will not be heard, and their Mawlu, sacrifice, marriage, pilgrimage - accepted;

          - the liberation of Muslims is their own business; the oppressed must fight for freedom, and the free must ward off slavery;

          - who dies for freedom from slavery and oppression, he becomes happy; he is destined for a place in paradise;

          - To become free, Muslims must put an end to the advantages of some over others.
          Of course, who needs such an image of Yaragsky? Definitely not Russian, Turks, Persians with their imperial ambitions.
  6. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 6 December 2017 10: 58 New
    +5
    "200 years ago, in 1817, the Caucasian War began (1817–1864),
    the longest war Russia has ever waged "////

    Well, okay.
    Caucasus - voluntarily - joined the Russian Empire
    as a result of the war, which lasted almost 50 years. smile
    India, too - voluntarily - joined the British Empire
    as a result of the war, which lasted 100 years (1748-1849) wink
    1. Nikitin
      Nikitin 6 December 2017 12: 21 New
      +2
      Russians in the Caucasus from time immemorial.
      Show at least one Englishman in India before its conquest.
    2. Okolotochny
      Okolotochny 6 December 2017 20: 55 New
      +9
      Why did they write this opus? If you want to add something from historical facts or express your opinion, please. And to write Jewish insults is useless here. Especially for offended Jews - I was born and raised in Dagestan. The republic was quite strong. The main personnel, engineers, teachers were Russian. In Makhachkala, on the Ak-Gel Lake, even a monument to the Russian Teacher was unveiled. When the Russian exodus began, Dagestan found itself in a broken hoof.
      1. badens1111
        badens1111 7 December 2017 09: 19 New
        +3
        Quote: Okolotochny
        The republic was quite strong. The main staff, engineers, teachers were Russian. In Makhachkala, on the Ak-Gel Lake, even a monument to the Russian Teacher was unveiled. When the Russian exodus began, Dagestan found itself in a broken hoof.

        Absolutely.
        The other day I talked with contractors from Dagestan, they say directly, thanks to those Russians who taught us, at this time we remember those teachers who were in their villages.
        1. Okolotochny
          Okolotochny 7 December 2017 18: 12 New
          +6
          Mayor Said Amirov, in the 90s pumped up his assistants, so that for every case of the departure of the Russian family they would figure out the reasons. Further, explosions, terrorist attacks and vah. Underground - never raised the question of the expulsion of Russian. Even these understood what the Russians meant for the development of the Republic.
      2. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 7 December 2017 17: 40 New
        +1
        Yes, to health. How the British gave a lot to India
        good (India speaks English, has a democratic
        government and is developing dynamically), and Russia has developed the Caucasus
        IN many respects. fellow
  7. Ural resident
    Ural resident 6 December 2017 11: 55 New
    +4
    200 years have passed and nothing has changed. On the contrary, Russians are now being forced out of the Caucasus. There is no Cossacks as a class anymore, there is no one to resist, the authorities play democracy, send money to the regions, competing with the Saudis, Salafism is flourishing, and Russian and Orthodox intolerance. And any self-defense of the Russian population is immediately labeled "nationalism" with all the ensuing consequences. and when it was the Russian city of Grozny.
    1. The centurion
      The centurion 6 December 2017 18: 42 New
      +3
      Quote: A resident of the Urals
      200 years have passed and nothing has changed

      Russia, at the cost of considerable bloodshed and considerable material costs, was able to suppress the armed resistance of the Highlanders. As a result, hundreds of thousands of mountaineers who did not accept Russian power were forced to leave their homes and move to Turkey and the Middle East. In the Caucasus, established a fragile peace. Caucus Caucasians contributed to securing Russia in Transcaucasia and weakening the opportunities for Muslims in the Caucasus to receive financial and armed support from their co-religionists from abroad. As a result of the Caucasian War in the North-Western Caucasus, the ethnic composition of the population was almost completely changed. Most of the Circassians were forced to settle in more than 40 countries of the world. The ethnographic map of the Northeastern Caucasus has changed to a lesser extent, although also significantly, where ethnic Russians have settled large areas, cleared of the local population. The calm in the North Caucasus ensured the presence of well-organized, trained and armed Terek and Kuban Cossack troops. But great mutual resentment and hatred kept in a frozen state inter-ethnic tensions, which later resulted in numerous inter-ethnic conflicts during the Civil War. The massive collaborationism and anti-Sovietism of some mountain peoples during the Great Patriotic War turned into their deportation of the 1940-ies. Of these events, the roots of modern armed conflicts have grown to a large extent. After the collapse of the USSR and the formation of the Russian Federation in the autonomous regions of Russia, separatist tendencies intensified in the Caucasus. In the 1990-x and 2000-x. The Caucasian war and deportation were widely used by radical Islamists as an ideological argument in the fight against Russia during the two Chechen wars. The language does not turn to name the current state of interethnic relations in the Caucasus as a firm and eternal peace, rather, it is a truce for ... ten years. It will last exactly as long as Russia can afford to pay tribute to the highlanders for this truce.
  8. Lexus
    Lexus 6 December 2017 12: 38 New
    +1
    Quote: Vasily50
    Much has been written about the war in the Caucasus and everything is known. That's just to please new trends in the North Caucasus, in the Transcaucasia more and more * free * interpretations * of events appear, all the more so there are customers with generous payment. Some opuses are authored by trained and even having degrees in different sciences, and nothing, they are even published and introduced into the masses. It is enough to read the Georgian-Armenian-Azerbaijani media, or listen to political scientists from these countries, it will be a conclusion about colonization and about genocide and about many other equally negative.
    The main accusations are the unwillingness of the RUSSIANS and RUSSIA to fulfill the wishes of these terribly independent and proud countries in their independence. And of course, the fact that no more Georgians-Armenians-Azerbaijan lives in RUSSIA as in Transcaucasia, which is also a shame for these countries.

    Apparently, they missed the Turks and Persians. If you let go of a well-fed bibizyan from the zoo to the forest, he will immediately begin to look for where he will continue to grumble.
  9. Dimmih
    Dimmih 6 December 2017 13: 48 New
    +1
    Quote: voyaka uh
    "200 years ago, in 1817, the Caucasian War began (1817–1864),
    the longest war Russia has ever waged "////

    Well, okay.
    Caucasus - voluntarily - joined the Russian Empire
    as a result of the war, which lasted almost 50 years. smile
    India, too - voluntarily - joined the British Empire
    as a result of the war, which lasted 100 years (1748-1849) wink

    You can say in this case, voluntarily, forcibly. Those wishing to extreme went to Turkey and Jordan or ended up in line near the Sirat bridge))) But it became quiet, calm. What I sincerely wish you!
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 6 December 2017 14: 08 New
      +3
      "in this case, voluntary-compulsory" ////

      So am I about ... fellow When they persevere, government officials usually appear,
      who begin to join voluntarily.
      Friendly Maharajas in India, friendly princes in the Caucasus ...
    2. The centurion
      The centurion 6 December 2017 18: 38 New
      +4
      Quote: Dimmih
      Those wishing extreme went to Turkey and Jordan

      The capitulation of the Abkhaz in Kbaad 21 tract in May 1864 was considered the date of the official end of the Caucasian War. However, individual centers of resistance to the Russian authorities continued until 1884. The war was declared over, but she did not want to end. The conquest of the Eastern and then the Western Caucasus, the abolition of the Abkhazian principality, the introduction of military administrative administration, the repression of the tsarist administration towards the mountaineers, the colonization of the Caucasus by the non-Gorny imperial peoples caused them to relapse active and passive resistance. But repeated uprisings in Abkhazia, Chechnya and other parts of the Caucasus were brutally suppressed. One form of resistance to tsarism was abrechestvo. To the punitive actions of the tsarist generals, the highlanders responded with swift and bold actions. The abrechestvo received a special color after the final approval of the royal power in the Caucasus. The incompatibility of the Russian court with the law and customs of the highlanders, the corrupt and criminal administration, and the general policy of oppression forced many highlanders to go into hiding. They continued to pursue, and to successfully combat this harmful element introduced a system of mutual responsibility. Persons who had the misfortune of being relatives or fellow villagers of criminals suffered from this. The mutual responsibility engendered not only fear and humility, but also generated in abundance new cadres of embittered people who were ready for anything. Revenge began to the authorities and authorities. Abreks killed administrative officials, looted mail, treasuries, banks and other government agencies, and the government pushed the civilian population even more. Penalties, executions, expulsions to Siberia, etc. were widely practiced. The government terrorized the civilian population, the abreks terrorized the authorities. As a result, the people began to look at the abreks as fighters against atrocities and oppression of power. The most courageous and successful abreks were considered mountaineers to continue the work of Shamil and his murids, giving them a halo of national heroes.
      But the most massive was the passive resistance in the form of the mass migration of the mountaineers to the countries of the foreign East. The waves of relocation then rose, then faded. At the end of the Caucasian War, not without pressure from Western countries, the Russian government announced permission for all the highlanders to move to Turkey. This resettlement, called Mohajirism from the North Caucasus, had several good reasons.
      These reasons made Muhajirism a mass phenomenon in the North Caucasus at that time. In total, the Caucasian mountaineers (Circassians, Abkhaz, Ubykhs, Abazins, Chechens, Ingushes, Avars, Lezgins, Ossetians, Karachays, Balkars) evicted, according to various sources, from 1 to 3 million people. The first number is more real. At the same time, there was also significant remigration. The largest were 3 emigration waves: 1864, 1867, 1877, but there were other, smaller ones.
      The descendants of the Caucasian Muhajirs played a large role in the history of Turkey in the XIX - XX centuries, about which there is a lot of information. But due to historical and political reasons, now most of them are assimilated and are considered to be Turks. The Turkish Constitution 1961 (city 54) considers all citizens of the country to be Turks, although about a million descendants of Caucasian highlanders live in Turkey. To date, they have no schools or textbooks, most of them have Turkish names, even mountain toponyms are replaced by Turkish names. The Caucasus mountaineers in the Russian Federation have a completely different situation. In contrast to the Muhajirs, the majority of the North Caucasian peoples have not only cultural and religious, but also national-state autonomy. As they say, for what they fought, they ran into it.
      1. Victor Red
        Victor Red 7 December 2017 23: 31 New
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        Quote: Centurion

        One of the forms of resistance to tsarism was abrechestvo ... a system of mutual responsibility was introduced to successfully combat this harmful element.

        A vivid example of the fight against abrachism, in my opinion, is shown in the Soviet film "Parting while the Good".
      2. co-creator
        co-creator 8 December 2017 12: 22 New
        +1
        Quote: Centurion
        According to various sources, from 1 to 3 million people were evicted.

        THE NUMBER IS DELUSION. In the North Caucasus in the mid-19th century, 1,5-2 million mountaineers lived. Only the western highlanders (Circassians, Abkhazians) left in large numbers, only a few tens of thousands left the eastern Caucasus. So they mujahudated a maximum of 700-800 thousand.
    3. Lekxnumx
      Lekxnumx 6 December 2017 23: 41 New
      0
      Those who left for Turkey still live there as a community. And they have not lost their identity, unlike the Caucasians who traveled to other regions of the Russian Federation. I can provide a fresh video of Lezgins from the descendants of those who spoke their language purely. And the video was shot recently in Dagestan .People can be divided by borders, flags, but if a person has a consciousness of who he is, transmitted by his ancestors. Nothing will ever hinder the unification and they came as a group from Turkey to see their homeland. My people live on both sides of Samur, I don’t believe in Allah and all taken together of gods. But offend my people on the other side in Dagestan I will be there, offend them in Turkey I will be there, offend them here I will be. People’s consciousness it happens in a person or he doesn’t. Yes, even in Africa you will be who your customs have brought you up. I don’t know how other nations are, but I’m proud of myself, even in the separation of the Samur River. When we see each other, we pronounce Sagray juvanbur and this will not change. This is what we owe to our tales the time goes back to BC, the tales of the KIiri Bub, Sharvili. Do not wait. Because it was my people who were divided first in Tsarist time, then in Soviet and then during the collapse. But they didn’t break even and settled among the Turks and preserved.
      1. co-creator
        co-creator 8 December 2017 12: 23 New
        +3
        Quote: Lek3338
        Those who left for Turkey still live there as a community. And they have not lost their identity, unlike the Caucasians who traveled to other regions of the Russian Federation.

        You will tell these tales at home.
        1. Lekxnumx
          Lekxnumx 8 December 2017 13: 21 New
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          Quotation: blooded man
          You will tell these tales at home


          Well then, take off your eyes and look, look do not go blind
          1. co-creator
            co-creator 9 December 2017 11: 58 New
            +1
            Quote: Lek3338
            Well then, take off your eyes and look, look do not go blind

            Once again I say - you will tell tales at home. Most, or rather almost all, were assimilated and recorded in the Turks. The Turkish "Caucasians" even 10 parts do not have the cultural and political rights that they have in the Russian Federation.

            Those who have preserved their identity in Turkey live in the village, that is, they are peasants.
        2. Lekxnumx
          Lekxnumx 8 December 2017 13: 26 New
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          Quotation: blooded man
          You will tell these tales at home.

          [media = https: //ok.ru/video/388087419206]
          And here is the return trip from Turkey to Dagestan. And there are dozens of such villages.
          Unsubscribe now))
        3. Lekxnumx
          Lekxnumx 8 December 2017 13: 29 New
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          Quotation: blooded man
          You will tell these tales at home.

        4. Lekxnumx
          Lekxnumx 8 December 2017 13: 38 New
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          Their fellow villagers whose ancestors left their lands ten years ago, today are greeted with flowers, bread and salt. There is no more empire that divided them, no more than the Soviet Union that divided these people into two borders, there is no Ottoman empire. But there is a nation that is united no matter what on what. The empire states and their borders are bullshit in front of national unity.
          1. co-creator
            co-creator 9 December 2017 12: 05 New
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            Quote: Lek3338
            ten years ago its edges

            Dude, manhood was in the middle of the 19th century. What decades have you been writing about?
  10. Penzuck
    Penzuck 6 December 2017 13: 51 New
    +1
    First, the author languidly tries to justify or justify Russian in the Caucasus and Russia's right to the Caucasus. And then it drains everything into the toilet. What a shameful decision? What tribute? First, all Chechens were evicted. And they are already 200 years old in Chechnya closely. Hence the bulk of the troubles. Then they bred (without negativity, just a fact). And then a wave of homecoming began. And at home, all the best places among Russians and the region in general cannot provide everyone. And when the state was weakened, a rebellion lured by the west. Are Chechens to blame? Or Russians? All together to blame. And to live together, two-thirds of Chechnya should be resettled in other regions and brought in at least 300 000 “Russians”. And even so you need to invest in this region a sea of ​​money. And put the "Russians" in a better position. Because neither Stavropol nor other "Russian regions" give 2% of the population per year. 37% for 15 years. given the 2 / 3 population of Chechnya - rural. And Russians are mostly in cities.
    1. co-creator
      co-creator 8 December 2017 12: 26 New
      +2
      Quote: Penzuck
      in other regions and bring in at least 300 "Russians"

      Who will go there? Force to force? The Russians are not capable of collective self-defense without the help of the state, which means that the rights of the Russians will need to be protected more than the Chechens.
  11. Dimmih
    Dimmih 6 December 2017 17: 09 New
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    Quote: voyaka uh
    "in this case, voluntary-compulsory" ////

    So am I about ... fellow When they persevere, government officials usually appear,
    who begin to join voluntarily.
    Friendly Maharajas in India, friendly princes in the Caucasus ...

    Really, but I thought it was a divine miracle! But politics turns out to be the fruit of human insidiousness! :-)
  12. gorgo
    gorgo 6 December 2017 17: 19 New
    +3
    Quote: voyaka uh

    India, too - voluntarily - joined the British Empire
    as a result of the war, which lasted 100 years (1748-1849) wink


    Well, I don’t know how it is in India, non Sri Lanka still has a knee buckle at the sight of a white man. I personally observed a completely unreasonable ingratiating attitude on the part of the locals towards myself only because I was white. For example, during a trip around the island, my godfather and I wanted to buy something in a store in some town and, going to the desired department, we naturally got in line (from the local, 10-12 people). They looked at us strangely, and the guard immediately jumped up and with the words "Sir! Sir!" led us to the counter, where we bought out of turn! I personally was terribly uncomfortable, we weren’t brought up in a “damned scoop” so much ... From this, I concluded that the British had once driven the local inferiority complex and their own racial exclusivity so that they still can’t leave (they and do not give). Was there anything like that in the "colonies of Russia"? Has anyone racially discriminated against someone? On the contrary! They pulled for their own wallet both science and the art of "oppressed peoples." And not only in the Caucasus.
    So I consider your comparison incorrect.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 6 December 2017 18: 58 New
      +3
      The Indians have a caste society that arose thousands of years before the British.
      They "wrote" the whites to the upper caste, as their brahmins. From here
      and such a bottom-up attitude. If you were a fair skinned Indian
      and a special red dot on the forehead, they would bow to you in the same way.
  13. The centurion
    The centurion 6 December 2017 18: 30 New
    +4
    The Cossacks of the Black Sea army played a huge role in the Caucasian war. Created from the resettled Ukrainian Cossacks, the Black Sea Cossack army found itself in the crucible of the outbreak of the Caucasian War. In the new theater of operations, the formidable and legendary Zaporozhye infantry has become a new, outstanding Cossack armies - the Black Sea plastuses, a sort of Cossack special forces. In the Kuban, plasters were the chief guardians of the Cordon Line. An eyewitness wrote: “Plastuns dress like Circassians and, moreover, like the poorest Circassians. This is because each search for small towns and slums causes a strong accident along with them. Circassian, frayed, covered with multi-colored leather patches; hat wiped, pozhezhelaya, but in evidence of carefree courage wrung on the back of the head; dudes made from the skin of a wild boar, with bristles out: here is the everyday decoration of a plasticine. Add to this a rusk bag behind your shoulders, a good fitting in your hands, a chopping hat with a wooden pillow on the front near the belt, and so-called personal belongings: a powder flask, a screwdriver, a fat box, an awl from a horn of a wild goat, sometimes a bowler, sometimes a balalaika or even a violin, and you make yourself a complete concept of the marching appearance of a plastico ... Plastunas differed from other Cossacks in both dress and gait. They walked awkwardly, waddling, as if reluctantly. From under the hanging eyebrows, eyes look sternly, face - quite bronze from sunburn and winds.
    The matter of the plastiers is to wander continuously along both banks of the Kuban, in a maze more smoothly. They are given an endless lesson - to open unknown or re-emerging paths in the swamps and fords in the border river, to lay or check signs on all the aisles, to seize the tracks, to lie down with a live trap. They embarked on their difficult search in small batches, from three to ten people. The art of using the terrain, sensitivity, a keen eye, a shot without a miss, replaced them with numerical strength. ” The combat training of plasters amazed not only contemporaries, but also descendants. In carrying out the tasks of guarding and defending the villages and cordons, they were able to spend secrets and ambushes (lay down) secretly, motionless and invisible to the enemy, for days and days (lay down), to go unnoticed and without losses to the battlefield (to crawl ), silently approach enemy posts (walk like cats), silently remove guards (lynx throw), make secret hunting raids for weeks in the rear of the enemy (wolf's mouth and fox tail). During the raids of groups of revels, they learned through the kunaks about the raids being prepared and stopped them. Magnificent arrows, they were the first in the Russian army, at the beginning of the XIX century, received rifled rifles - fittings, weapons at that time expensive and scarce. Being tracked down, they went into the floodplain or forest debris and with accurate fire forced the pursuit to abandon the persecution. And their method of attack of the Circassian positions under the cover of wagons with hay entered the classics of an offensive battle. Their efforts ensured the safety of Cossack settlements and eliminated many active abreks, organizers of raids. The great warriors of that time highly valued the martial labor of the Reed. So AVSuvorov called the Black Sea plastonic hundreds attached to him "the eyes and ears of his army."
    1. co-creator
      co-creator 8 December 2017 12: 33 New
      +2
      Quote: Centurion
      Created from resettled Ukrainian Cossacks,

      Lies. It was created from Zaporozhets. Then the Don Cossacks were added and the Kuban army was formed.
      Even under Peter I, the Ukrainian Cossacks Were FINALLY TRANSFERRED TO THE PEASANT EASTERN.
      Cossacks generally had nothing to do with Little Russians or residents of Ukraine.
  14. bandabas
    bandabas 6 December 2017 19: 37 New
    0
    "Humble yourself, the Caucasus, Ermolov is coming!" Just now there are no such people. Solid "puffers".
  15. captain
    captain 6 December 2017 20: 13 New
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    For such articles, they don’t like us in the Caucasus. To recognize the culture of the local population as backward is already a precedent. We have conquered the Caucasus and own it by right of the strong. If at the time of the accession of the Caucasus we were a weak state, then the peoples of the Caucasus would not submit to us. And subsequently, our kings were able to find those forms of coexistence that these peoples were able to retain in their time in Russia. Lenin's national and administrative policies led the USSR to collapse.
  16. mar4047083
    mar4047083 6 December 2017 20: 42 New
    +5
    Completely wrong conclusions about the conquest of the Caucasus. It all started with the conquest of Georgia. As you know, "very smart Georgians" wanted to become a protectorate of Russia, and temporarily. That is, they wanted to receive money and resources, remaining almost independent. Their trouble was that Alexander I had a slightly different idea of ​​the protectorate. So go differently, the troops entered Georgia forever and established the Russian order. And then everything “spun”. The Caucasus itself was not needed for nothing in the 19th century. Russia needed reliable communications to supply troops in Georgia, which was not promoted by gangsters of mountain looters. Sea transportation was annoyed by Turkish coastal fortresses. And so the Caucasian wars began, and yes, the Western partners helped in this by supplying weapons to the highlanders and Turks (it is strange that this time in the article without the Freemasons) you won’t believe it, even the highlanders invented the flags in England, though in the very first battle the highlanders successfully "fucked up." Here is a photo of British design thought . Well, the fact that the number of Aborigines was reduced. It's okay, that's why it is a war. By the way, where the stripping was carried out the most “qualitatively”, resorts arose in the future, and almost no one annoys tourists (if you do not take into account the dark-skinned people with one eyebrow, those whom you want to get. Lord Jews and Turks why do not you control your behavior stupid offspring?)
    1. Seal
      Seal 8 December 2017 18: 00 New
      +1
      Quote: ando_bor
      The whole expansion of Mongolia
      complete nonsense. Not amenable to either logic or any reasonable explanation. Impossible neither from the demographic, nor from the military, nor from any other point of view. Mongols are peaceful and calm people. He had no business with anyone other than the Chinese in his entire history.
  17. mar4047083
    mar4047083 6 December 2017 20: 47 New
    +2
    Guess who invented this flag for the Highlanders. Also "prosrali" in battle. Aborigines did not know how to appreciate fashionable designer things.
  18. mar4047083
    mar4047083 6 December 2017 21: 01 New
    +3
    And this flight of thought amuses me the most. Either pants or underpants. I don’t know who I came up with. And the same thing as with the first two.
  19. Lekxnumx
    Lekxnumx 6 December 2017 22: 58 New
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    "However, in reality, Russia brought to the Caucasus an advanced development project, a more developed spiritual and material culture."
    I did not read further! Damn him material well-being about what spiritual development you are talking about.
    Just three days ago I returned from the territory of the Russian Federation. I first went, I was in the Russian Federation but at 6 years old. In my right mind and as an accomplished person for the first time.
    Reading this and remembering what I saw a week ago with my own eyes, emotions are such a “smirk” and that’s all.
    I don’t know how it was then that I didn’t see anything spiritual. In the Russian Federation, the lexicon of both the theater and the tavern is the same mat on the mat. . "The wife gives her husband the back of the head for being drunk, looked at the fifth point of another, and so on and so forth.
    And only when I went to Russia I understood the Russians whom I knew with us, and this, by the way, is teachers, doctors. And the Russians who are now in Russia are not the same thing. For the month of my arrival in Russia, I voiced this every day by the Russians themselves. In Russia at work, I met hundreds of girls and only one, only one, never uttered a raunchy word, her name was Alexander. Everything! If I’ll read, I’ll write on the topic
    1. Dimmih
      Dimmih 7 December 2017 05: 11 New
      +2
      Dear Interlocutor, the conversation actually goes about the fact that during the conquest, the Caucasus was a conglomeration of peoples who slaughtered and robbed each other from the creation of the world, as well as of their own free will for the personal enrichment or incitement of Turkey to attack the territory of the Russian Empire. And all because of poverty and savagery. To be proud of it or not is your business, Turkish citizen. Despite Islam and the teachings of the Lawmakers you mentioned, slavery, blood feud, and other vices of ancient societies existed. The Caucasus was conquered, then infrastructure was built in it, and local princes joined the Russian aristocracy and faithfully served the empire. Dissenters moved to Turkey. As for the sad state of our modern society, yes, it is sad. But, being in the Caucasus on business trips, my friends constantly saw one picture in different variations: a small, thin, fragile girl carries a bag of potatoes (or a different weight), and her dzhigit husband proudly steps ahead and examines something in a smartphone. Kgm, in our completely spoiled Russian society, it is still atypical to use wives as draft horses.
    2. co-creator
      co-creator 8 December 2017 12: 40 New
      +2
      Quote: Lek3338
      .Young people swear in front of the elders, the father sends his wife in front of the children, the mother shouts to the fallen child "well, got up ...." The wife gives her husband the back of her head for being drunk, looked at the fifth point of the other and so on and so forth.

      Muslims living in the Russian Federation and even in the Caucasus do exactly the same. The only thing is that the women you have sheep, the property of men and therefore the voice to raise the owner can not because it is punishable. For Russians and Europeans, a woman always had the right to vote and the right to “punish” her husband if he deserved it.
      Actually, you are kind, you can not talk about spirituality because you yourself do not possess it. You can’t be half spiritually and respect your elders and at the same time be rude to the elders of another people.
      1. Lekxnumx
        Lekxnumx 8 December 2017 13: 48 New
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        A Caucasian, regardless of whether a Muslim or a Christian, is not much more ambitious than you. I noticed this in the Russian Federation when communicating with Armenians. The concepts and manner of communication are identical, and when communicating with a Russian, they looked up at this uncompletedness, exposing everything family to the public. And yes, I agree on one thing, even Uzbeks in the Russian Federation lose their face, start swearing and behaving like you were surprised. But I don’t blame them, but differently, where there is nothing holy, every emotion is marked by an insult to the mother of her friend.
        It’s better to let our silence be like sheep, than going to women's companies, ladies of about 30-40 years old, probably each child would send notes drunk to nearby tables, roll up to waiters. And about young people, I’m generally silent for the first time at the table, drank it and leave it in a couple of hours to yourself .
        1. co-creator
          co-creator 9 December 2017 12: 19 New
          +1
          Quote: Lek3338
          A Caucasian, whether Muslim or Christian, is not comparable more ambitious than you

          Specifically, what manifests ambitiousness? Become a famous scientist, world artist, engineer or sculptor? Maybe that would earn money? So this is not ambition, but ordinary greed.
          Quote: Lek3338
          and communicating with a Russian, eyes on his forehead arose from this uncompletedness, exposing everything family for general viewing.

          Each people has its own culture and the fact that you can’t understand it is puzzling. No wonder you are called savages.
          Quote: Lek3338
          And yes, I agree on one thing, even Uzbeks in the Russian Federation lose their face, start swearing and behaving like you. I was also surprised

          You don’t drag the Uzbeks in, they are very cultured people and respect others. Eastern mentality. I’m writing specifically about Caucasians who behave like pigs, but at the same time they are talking about some kind of culture.
          Quote: Lek3338
          Better let our be silent like sheep

          All right thing is it in Africa thing. Actually nothing more to say about your women, ordinary things. Beauty, the mind do not matter because for a thing it does not matter.
          Quote: Lek3338
          ladies 30-40 years old, each child probably sent notes drunk to neighboring tables, drove to the waiters

          It is envious of you) Well, go and get to know your relatives do not get lost even though you have families, children and a type of culture)
          Quote: Lek3338
          And about the youth in general I am silent for the first time at the table, drank and all in a couple of hours lead to yourself.

          Each girl decides to drink or not to drink herself, to go or not to go. It is not a thing like your wife who has no right to anything.
          1. Lekxnumx
            Lekxnumx 9 December 2017 13: 07 New
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            Quotation: blooded man
            Each people has its own culture and the fact that you can’t understand it is puzzling. No wonder you are called savages.

            The funniest thing you call savages is that it doesn’t personally offend me when you see you in real life, living in your society. And for the rest of the world, people are like people.
            Quotation: blooded man
            Quote: Lek3338
            A Caucasian, whether Muslim or Christian, is not comparable more ambitious than you

            Specifically, what manifests ambitiousness? Become a famous scientist, world artist, engineer or sculptor? Maybe that would earn money? So this is not ambition, but ordinary greed.
            Quote: Lek3338
            and communicating with a Russian, eyes on his forehead arose from this uncompletedness, exposing everything family for general viewing.

            Each people has its own culture and the fact that you can’t understand it is puzzling. No wonder you are called savages.
            Quote: Lek3338
            And yes, I agree on one thing, even Uzbeks in the Russian Federation lose their face, start swearing and behaving like you. I was also surprised

            You don’t drag the Uzbeks in, they are very cultured people and respect others. Eastern mentality. I’m writing specifically about Caucasians who behave like pigs, but at the same time they are talking about some kind of culture.
            Quote: Lek3338
            Better let our be silent like sheep

            All right thing is it in Africa thing. Actually nothing more to say about your women, ordinary things. Beauty, the mind do not matter because for a thing it does not matter.
            Quote: Lek3338
            ladies 30-40 years old, each child probably sent notes drunk to neighboring tables, drove to the waiters

            It is envious of you) Well, go and get to know your relatives do not get lost even though you have families, children and a type of culture)
            Quote: Lek3338
            And about the youth in general I am silent for the first time at the table, drank and all in a couple of hours lead to yourself.

            Each girl decides to drink or not to drink herself, to go or not to go. It is not a thing like your wife who has no right to anything.

            It’s better to have a dignified thing, than not a thing which, when drunk, is all the same under whom to lie.
            Quotation: blooded man
            It is envious of you) Well, go and get to know your relatives do not get lost even though you have families, children and a type of culture)

            No in the bastard, we, unlike you, have the honor. With married people do not sleep why guess yourself.
            Quotation: blooded man
            Each girl decides to drink or not to drink herself, to go or not to go. It is not a thing like your wife who has no right to anything.

            Of course, let her decide for herself, today you’re a neighbor tomorrow, then don’t be surprised why your child doesn’t look like you. Look so that your wife does not give birth to you from a savage, or else your position is not far from that, she’s not the right thing to choose every month new choice.
            1. co-creator
              co-creator 9 December 2017 14: 33 New
              +3
              Quote: Lek3338
              The funniest thing you call savages is that it doesn’t personally offend me when you see you in real life, living in your society. And for the rest of the world, people are like people.

              No, all people call you savages. Therefore, no one in the WORLD wants to live according to your customs, and you all such cultural ones rush and rush into our lack of culture.
              Specifically, the inhabitants of Istanbul consider you savages and have chosen a secular lifestyle.
              Quote: Lek3338
              It’s better to have a dignified thing, than not a thing which, when drunk, is all the same under whom to lie.

              Haaa. How can a thing have virtue? She is the same thing. Russian women and European things are not and choose for themselves what to do.

              Quote: Lek3338
              No in the bastard, we, unlike you, have the honor. With married people do not sleep why guess yourself.

              Yes, I see how you do not sleep with other people's wives) For people like you, specially invented polygamy, and that I bought two or three things of a female gender and everything is cultural.

              Quote: Lek3338
              Of course let her decide, today you’re a neighbor tomorrow,

              Of course herself. If he goes to a neighbor, then he will not be my wife. Everything is very simple.
              Quote: Lek3338
              .See that your wife does not give birth to you from a savage, or else your position is not far from this, she is not a thing, she has the right to choose a new choice every month.

              She will not give birth, so she is my wife and loves me. What will happen next life will show.
              It’s quite possible that your wife despises you and dreams of other men at night, or simply doesn’t feel anything for you and it suits you. She gave birth to children, cleans, washes her feet, does not ask questions. In short thing. But this situation does not suit me, my wife should love me and decide together how we will live together further.
              By the way, your fathers and grandfathers also chose wives for love. We sat at the same table with the guests, made decisions together and lived happily with large families. This is called RESPECT FOR EACH OTHER, and only in this way is dignity manifested.
              1. Lekxnumx
                Lekxnumx 9 December 2017 16: 41 New
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                Quotation: blooded man
                Specifically, the inhabitants of Istanbul consider you savages and have chosen a secular lifestyle.

                Here's what to talk about with you? I am a supporter of a secular lifestyle because I do not believe in Allah Jesus and all this bunch of gods of the prophets. But a secular lifestyle does not mean giving the waiter drunk, does not mean compiling a lexicon only from a mat.
                Quotation: blooded man
                Haaa. How can a thing have virtue? She is the same thing. Russian women and European things are not and choose for themselves what to do.

                And who is stopping you from choosing? It’s just that the word honor has lost its meaning in your society, life comes down to perpetual selection by trial one by one. How can such slow-thinking people explain that when choosing a new one they spit on their previous choice. For they deserve respect more because they know the value of their body. Unlike modern Russian society, they normally look at connections in the first meeting. By the way, this is an indicator of savagery, animal instinct prevails over the concept of honor.
                The culture of relations between people in the Caucasus was formed before the arrival of the court of religions, which explains the fact that Christians Georgians and Armenians are more similar in concept to other Caucasians (non-Christians) than, for example, to Russian co-religionists.
                Russians, too, women knew the meaning of the word honor, but the last 20 years put an end to this. Congratulations, you became Europeans, all the kings strove for this, a little decomposition of society stopped in Soviet times, but the collapse personally came to an end for me. Liberals with the words in "Soviet the union didn’t have sex "perverted and made you Europeans. And what in Europe we see, soon everyone will become tolerant of same-sex marriage.
                You can only connect the culture of the Caucasians with religion only ......, and unfortunately there are an absolute majority of you idiots (illiterate generation). An example when I ordered pork with Russians, I saw the reaction "do you eat pork? My answer was this and why shouldn’t? "But you are Muslims" and you asked me whether I am Muslim or not? Well, you’re no different. I didn’t write you because they are Christians. That's our difference with you. Although you keep your pagan religion or to hell with him, observe Christianity, would keep the meaning of the word honor in society.
                1. co-creator
                  co-creator 10 December 2017 02: 25 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Lek3338
                  . But a secular lifestyle does not mean giving the waiter drunk, does not mean compiling a lexicon only from a mat.

                  Secular lifestyle means personal freedom which is limited by moral principles BEFORE the whole person. For example, the way of behavior of Caucasians men in the Russian Federation is practically no different from Russians except for an incomprehensible animal instinct. They also drink (and whoever doesn’t drink drugs), hang out in clubs, have fun with girls, cheat on their wives and have lovers and lovers.

                  Quote: Lek3338
                  And who prevents to choose?

                  You interfere, who else. If you allow your women to choose, then your power will end over them and you will have to reckon with their opinion. You certainly do not need this.
                  Quote: Lek3338
                  it’s just that the word honor has lost its meaning in your society, life comes down to eternal selection by trial one by one.

                  What kind of nonsense do you write?) It is impossible for a woman and a man to be in close relations with one person all his life, this is a very rare occurrence. Just a woman who sleeps out of wedlock with different men such as "whore", and the man is male and macho. In our society, women have gained the right to decide for themselves whether they sleep and when, but not in yours. That’s the whole difference. I also do not like girls who sleep with men for high, but this is their choice. So the parents could not properly educate that's all.
                  Quote: Lek3338
                  Thus, the elector can be safely recorded in the list of night butterflies

                  No you can not. It’s you who marry women as if by chance, and in normal societies people should choose each other.
                  Quote: Lek3338
                  Unlike the modern Russian society, who normally look at connections in their first acquaintance. By the way, this is an indicator of savagery, animal instinct prevails over the concept of honor.

                  And what's wrong with sex on a first date? Do you know why in Muslim countries sodomy and debauchery with donkeys is very developed? Think at your leisure.
                  Mutual desire of people to have sex does not affect honor in any way, if this is certainly not a way of life. Animal instinct is when a natural daughter is given out as a dowry, and not as a person.
                  Quote: Lek3338
                  The culture of relations between people in the Caucasus was formed before the arrival of the court of religions, which explains the fact that Christians Georgians and Armenians are more similar in concept to other Caucasians (non-Christians) than, for example, to Russian co-religionists.

                  The culture of relationships is changing. The more developed the country, the less society looks at concepts. For example, earlier in the Caucasus all young people were respected elders regardless of teip, gender, nationality, now no longer. Well, when a Caucasian gets to Europe, then he forgets about traditions.
                  Armenians and Georgians differ from Russians only in that they continue to support each other. Otherwise, there are no differences.
                  Quote: Lek3338
                  Among Russians, too, women knew the meaning of the word honor, but the last 20 years have put an end to this

                  Nonsense. Most of the women are very decent and do not hang around men. The smaller the city, the more traditional the concept of family and behavior, although much depends on the region. In big cities, a different atmosphere and other concepts of life.

                  Quote: Lek3338
                  Only the culture of Caucasians can be connected with religion only ......, and unfortunately there are an absolute majority of such idiots among you (illiterate generation)

                  This we do not bind, and your relatives say about it on every corner. You will not find normal Caucasians non-Muslims with fire during the day. All as one on religion obsessed.
                  Quote: Lek3338
                  An example when I ordered pork with the Russians, I saw the reaction "do you eat pork? My answer was this and why shouldn’t it?" But you are Muslims "and you asked me whether I am Muslim or not? Well, here you are no different.

                  I've never paid anyone who eats what. If the Russians ask you about pork. that means there were cases when your relatives refused to eat pork.
                  Quote: Lek3338
                  Although Vedicism had kept its pagan religion or, to hell with it, observe Christianity, they would have kept the meaning of the word honor in society.

                  YOU ONLY WHAT WRITTEN. THAT Religion is not important and you immediately equate honor with religion)) Dude, the Russians have more honor than you. It’s you, as peasants, who cannot solve the issue one on one, and immediately run after acquaintances and friends, and then the crowd beat people. You are filming this as a crowd forcing the Russians to say "Caucasus power" and then upload it to YouTube and be proud of it. You have no honor, some show off.
              2. Lekxnumx
                Lekxnumx 9 December 2017 16: 56 New
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                And yes I have no wife, imagine! Even one, not to mention polygamy.
                If you want to insult, find something else. And although insulted by the words of such a narrow-minded, thinking with quotes created by himself.
                Offended by the words of such a person, I would cease to respect myself.
                The more a person reads about political situations of a particular period related to religion and its influence on society. The less he becomes religious. In this regard, to the peculiarities of modern Russian society, I non-Russian can take a lesson about your lost culture in the form of Vedicism and your ancient customs.
                1. co-creator
                  co-creator 10 December 2017 02: 32 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Lek3338
                  And yes I have no wife, imagine! Even one, not to mention polygamy.

                  Will be . Parents will bring you and say get married. Then you lay with her in bed, and she is a brando log and does not feel any emotions towards you. So then you’ll run around the women, you’ll start a Russian mistress) You will kiss her legs and immediately forget about honor and so on.



                  Quote: Lek3338
                  If you want to insult, find something else. And although insulted by the words of such a narrow-minded, thinking with quotes created by himself.

                  Yes, I need you to insult you. I simply describe the everyday family life of most Caucasians and Muslims.

                  Quote: Lek3338
                  .In this regard, the individuals of modern Russian society, I non-Russian can take a lesson about your lost culture in the form of Vedicism and your ancient customs.

                  Here come on, since you are not Russian. you won’t decide what suits us and especially about a lost culture. You better follow yours, otherwise you behave like savages and consider the main thing in life to be show-offs.
                  1. Lekxnumx
                    Lekxnumx 10 December 2017 11: 55 New
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                    Everything that you wrote absolutely everything is based on stereotypes. Open in RuNet any dispute between a Russian and a Caucasian, your arguments are equal to them. Donkeys, a show off, a crowd of one. For fear, your eyes are big and you’re afraid, justifying why you’re exposing Caucasians. And yes ask the Russians who dealt with the Caucasians in fact, in a friendship partnership. I had to harness for the Russian and against the Caucasians and against the Russian. My impression of you was formed in Siberia where it is supposedly the most severe, so I think about you living in I can’t even imagine
                    1. co-creator
                      co-creator 10 December 2017 14: 42 New
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                      Quote: Lek3338
                      Everything that you wrote absolutely everything is built on stereotypes. Open in RuNet any dispute between a Russian and a Caucasian, your arguments are equal to them

                      Specifically, what kind of stereotypes are we talking about?
                      Quote: Lek3338
                      . Donkeys, show-off, crowd for one. For fear, the eyes are large created an image and they themselves are afraid, justifying why piss Caucasians.

                      We are so afraid of Caucasians that we can’t eat already))
                      Ssykuny unfortunately here only you, or rather not ssykuny but simply not men. You do not know how to solve a one-on-one problem and admit defeat immediately run after friends and brothers. Among normal men, a dispute is always resolved one on one and the loser does not complain about the offender. if he is of course a man. But you are not men.
                      Quote: Lek3338
                      My impression of you was formed in Siberia, where the allegedly most severe ones, so I can’t even imagine living in Moscow about you

                      Yes, these are we scourges, we are building the Caucasus, we are cutting your children and women, and then you serve us for money. And just a little - Rafik Ne is a little new.
                      There are probably no big pontorezas and people who respect only power.
                      1. Lekxnumx
                        Lekxnumx 10 December 2017 19: 03 New
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                        The whole essence of the Russian man is manifested in your comments. More precisely, I can’t say all, but an absolute majority.
  20. Lekxnumx
    Lekxnumx 7 December 2017 09: 52 New
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    Despite Islam and the teachings of the Lawmakers you mentioned, slavery, blood feud, and other vices of ancient societies existed. The Caucasus was conquered, then infrastructure was built in it, and local princes joined the Russian aristocracy and faithfully served the empire.

    In 1825, at the initiative of Magomed Yaragsky, the first congress of the highest clergy in the history of Dagestan was held in Yapare.
    The teachings of that time were against any kind of slavery, it is described in detail. And in his speech he raised the whole clergy not only against the Russians, but also against the Turks, the Muslim according to their teachings should be free. Erlomov ordered Aslakhan to arrest him and deliver him to Tbilisi but he didn’t dared knowing that all the clergy were behind him. He was arrested but sent to exile in Tabasaran. Where did the letter to Kazi Magomed come from? We accepted the teachings of the tariqa. Holy Islam is sacredly fulfilled, we recognize as our Murshid Magomed-effendi Yaragsky Neither the Russian soldiers resisted us, nor Muslim riders, on Mount Kargul, where Nadir Khan was defeated, we defeated the Giaurs as well. Murshid blessed you for the gazavat. Tabasaran, Kaitag, Terekama and all the people there are waiting for you, come to us at the gazavat "Erlomov is being removed to replace Paskevich and only then the founder of the movement returns to his homeland. Then the teachings united the whole of Dagestan to Chechnya Kyurintsev. And you have always cut the wild Caucasians in each other and we Russians came pacified them. Even the servants of the Russian army from among the Caucasians were fans of that teaching.
  21. Seal
    Seal 7 December 2017 10: 19 New
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    Quote: ando_bor
    the Mongols rode up to Russia, Mongolia came there, everything dried up - there is nothing to eat, everyone began to cut themselves - to shrink, and then the Mongols.

    Again, these notorious forever “galloping" Mongols. Yes, forget about the "Mongols." Nobody jumped anywhere. The traditional breed of Mongolian horses is very stunted, broad-bred and slow-moving. Due to the low-speed, she has endurance. It can go at least a day at a speed of 5-6 kilometers per hour, pinching grass on the go. And the Mongolian rider has been sleeping in the saddle since that time. Horses of a traditional Mongolian breed can only ride a completely unimaginable gait, in which the rider's main task is not to fall off the horse. To shoot from a bow on such a gait is impossible in principle. The amble Mongolian traditional horse is unable to run. Moreover, the Mongolian horse, jumping in its wild unpredictable gait, quickly expires.
    Therefore, those Mongols who are already 200 years old in Mongolia, with the appearance of our Cossacks there and especially in the period after 1920, are only engaged in crossing our horses with their own in order to somehow improve the "running characteristics" of their traditional Mongolian horses .
    1. ando_bor
      ando_bor 7 December 2017 13: 25 New
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      I know very well how the Mongolian horses "jump", and there are "ordinary" horses in Mongolia, I don’t know where they came from, but they are kept only in the valleys of large rivers, there is food for them,
      they do not feed on most of Mongolia. The whole of Mongolia, its expansion is based on this - the horse does not need to be fed, she and the transport she and the supply of food. These are the borders of Mongolian expansion - where the Mongolian horse could find food in those climatic conditions.
      1. co-creator
        co-creator 8 December 2017 12: 48 New
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        Quote: ando_bor
        The whole of Mongolia, its expansion is based on this - the horse does not need to be fed, she and the transport she and the supply of food.

        What does it mean not to feed a horse? Why are you writing such nonsense? Not a single Mongolian horse carries ANYTHING in winter, but simply grazes. Because there is not enough food to make up for the transportation of yurts and riders.
        In the 17th century, the Cossacks were VERY EASY to defeat the Mongols in today's Buryatia by attacking them in the winter for only one reason. Ours fed horses with oats and fought on horseback, and in the winter the Mongols had horses on the pasture and could not fight.
        Quote: ando_bor
        These are the borders of Mongolian expansion - where the Mongolian horse could find food in those climatic conditions.

        Mark these boundaries, please?
  22. gorgo
    gorgo 7 December 2017 11: 16 New
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    Quote: voyaka uh
    The Indians have a caste society that arose thousands of years before the British.
    They "wrote" the whites to the upper caste, as their brahmins.


    Not convincing. Didn’t they see whites before this for thousands of years? no
    1. ando_bor
      ando_bor 7 December 2017 13: 28 New
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      Quote: gorgo
      Not convincing. Didn’t they see whites before this for thousands of years?

      They did not see the British - they ran around the swamps with clubs in the swamps.
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 8 December 2017 22: 36 New
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        Absolutely. Indian civilization is much older than European. But Europeans in the Middle Ages made a powerful technological breakthrough, while Indians, on the contrary, “fell asleep”.
        Therefore, the British army with guns and guns caused a shock among the Indians. However, the colonization of a huge country took a hundred years and there were many wars.
        1. co-creator
          co-creator 9 December 2017 12: 24 New
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          Quote: voyaka uh
          Therefore, the British army with guns and guns caused a shock among the Indians. However, the colonization of a huge country took a hundred years and there were many wars.

          Again, fairy tales) It's not about the guns and the more so the Indians did not have any shock. In fact, the British made the conquest of India by the hands of the Indians themselves, playing on their national contradictions. They even suppressed riots by the hands of other Indians.
  23. Opera
    Opera 7 December 2017 15: 43 New
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    Well, it touches right already - Union - 2 and only the renewed Union - 2 will solve all problems !!!))))) On the basis of social justice and ethics of conscience, of course!))) Keep silent for ethics! But here I am interested in social justice in the USSR was fair for all, without exception, or in some republics fairer ?! Say, in the Georgian SSR and in the RSFSR, people lived according to one standard of this justice, or did someone work on someone's social justice ?! Were all equal or someone more equal and with their own national color and other indulgences ?! And what is all this, I really want to ask the author, led ?! And do not cry about the 90s here! This is all known! In the 90s we have few who miss. But is it not in the “blessed” Union, if the Russian family had two children, then this is already great ?! In the USSR, the Russians were Russians with Belarusians and a little bit of Ukrainians! All the rest were Latvians, Georgians, Chechens and other Estonians with their national apartments, culture, nice and not so peculiarities and other nishtyaks in the form of constant injections from the metropolis, which is always working for an enduringly bright communist future! If the author of the article, Alexander Samsonov, is not even a Lithuanian, but an Uzbek, I very much understand his desire for Soyuz-2! Where else is that ?! But the Russian person does not need this happiness for me. Even updated! We will deal with our problems with God's help.
    1. co-creator
      co-creator 8 December 2017 12: 51 New
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      Quote: Oper
      But the Russian person does not need this happiness for me. Even updated!

      Everything is absolutely true. Even Ukraine is not needed, except for the Donbass, and only because they have earned this right with arms in their hands.
      1. Opera
        Opera 8 December 2017 13: 06 New
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        You can’t make happy by force!)
  24. Seal
    Seal 8 December 2017 18: 15 New
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    I agree with many, but here it is
    Quote: mar4047083
    Turkish coastal fortresses annoyed sea shipping

    do not understand.
    Which fortresses and how did they "annoy"?
    I agree with the fact that Transcaucasia itself was absolutely not necessary for us. We entered there ... more precisely, the Georgians lured us there under the rather false pretexts of "protecting Orthodox Christianity." And having entered Georgia (and then having won from Persia and the Erivan Khanate) we got the land border directly with the Ottoman Empire and Persia, and not with their vassals, as it was before.
    From the point of view of the defense of our own lands, it would be much more profitable for us to have a buffer between us on the one hand and Turkey and Persia on the other hand, a whole conglomerate of North Caucasian tribes that were always at enmity with each other, and also often at enmity with Turkey and Persia. From this conglomerate, you could always buy 5-10 tribal leaders to inform us of all the actions of Turkey and Persia.
    But what happened happened. We entered the Caucasus. And they faced Turkey and Persia from the front and the conglomerate hostile to us-minded North Caucasian tribes from the rear.
    1. mar4047083
      mar4047083 8 December 2017 19: 45 New
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      If that forgot correct. Anapa, Sujuk-Kale, Sukhum-Kale, Poti, Batum. And how annoyed? You see, it’s easier to supply the army with the sea than horse-drawn transport in the mountains. And as luck would have it, all the comfortable bays of the Turks had to be taken away. Add here that through these ports there was an intensive trade turnover of Tuption with mountain robbers.
  25. co-creator
    co-creator 10 December 2017 19: 21 New
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    Quote: Lek3338
    The whole essence of the Russian man is manifested in your comments. More precisely, I can’t say all, but an absolute majority.

    I write only the facts that you are unable to refute. The essence of the Russian man is simple, we are so kind and unforgettable love that we allow you to live in Russia and exist in general. Amerikosy made it easier for people like you, 90% destroyed and drove the remaining 10% to the reservation.