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In "Voentelekom" revealed large theft

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First Deputy General Director of Voentelecom JSC Oleg Savitsky and Financial Director Yevgeny Zhilkov were detained on suspicion of particularly large-scale fraud in deliveries of equipment to the Ministry of Defense, including routers that received the premium in the field of import substitution "Priority-2017", reports Kommersant.




Yesterday, the headquarters of the company and the place of residence of a dozen defendants in the criminal case were searched and seized documents. The search was carried out in the office of the CEO of the company Alexander Davydov.

The criminal case of fraud on a large scale (h. 4 Art. 159 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation) was initiated by the Chief Military Investigation Department (GVSU) TFR on the materials of an inspection conducted by military prosecutors.

According to the investigation, “Voentelecom top managers” concluded contracts with the Ministry of Defense from 2013, including within the import substitution program for equipment supplies, including routers, used various schemes to significantly overestimate the cost of production. ”

According to preliminary calculations, for one router the military department on average paid 1 million rubles, while its market value did not exceed 350 thousand rubles.

It should be noted, the newspaper writes, that the predecessor of Mr. Davydov as head of Voentelekom Nikolay Tamodin was sentenced to 2015 in the year by the Moscow Savelovsky District Court for embezzlement to six years in prison.

According to the GVSU TFR, in the period from 2011 to February 2013 of the year, being the head of Voentelecom, Tamodin committed the theft of funds allocated for the implementation of defense government contracts. As the investigators established, “Voentelekom” transferred the already removed from the balance and unsuitable for use spare parts, tools and accessories of military communication equipment to its Mytishchi branch “Spetsremont”, and that under fictitious contracts through ZAO “Rosservice” and “Sistema Communications” again sold their defense ministry. The founder of the first of these firms was Nikolai Tamodin himself. The damage was estimated due to 714 million rubles.

The damage in the new case has not yet been calculated, but the investigators do not exclude that the schemes that operated under the previous management of the company could also be used in the frauds.

Several OPK top-managers interviewed by the newspaper admitted that they “were simply shocked” by the “mask-show” arranged by the security forces.

The steps that he (CEO Davydov) did for Voentelecom were correct: according to 2017, the company's revenue, subject to reduction of the order from the Ministry of Defense, was to be a record for the entire existence of the organization - more than 20 billion rubles,
said one of the interlocutors.

According to him, law enforcement agencies "became interested in the contract from 2012 of the year, when the company was headed by Nikolai Tamodin, although Davydov himself came to Voentelecom only in 2013 year."

Other interlocutors believe that the search situation was “the result of some kind of conflict.”

He had many influential foes,
they noted.
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  1. Logall
    Logall 5 December 2017 16: 51 New
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    Theft can be detected in another way:
    Watch Who lives in what conditions and what drives ... And also relatives!
    Well, then look What does it do! I mean officials ...
    Many thefts can thus be prevented! And not when it comes up After a few years ...
    1. 210ox
      210ox 5 December 2017 17: 08 New
      16
      Alexander hi I would introduce an article in the Criminal Code for exceeding the salary of the general director more than twice as much as the salary of a regular engineer or specialist worker.
      Quote: Logall
      Theft can be detected in another way:
      Watch Who lives in what conditions and what drives ... And also relatives!
      Well, then look What does it do! I mean officials ...
      Many thefts can thus be prevented! And not when it comes up After a few years ...
      1. svp67
        svp67 5 December 2017 17: 14 New
        +5
        Quote: 210ox
        I would introduce an article in the Criminal Code for exceeding the salary of the general director more than twice as much as the salary of a regular engineer or specialist worker.

        So what? Do you think someone will come across this? You are a naive person. Yes, at least the salaries will be EQUAL until they clean up the PREMIUM and all sorts of additions to salaries, nothing will change, or at least they will introduce a percentage in the salary and bonus fund ...
        1. Going
          Going 5 December 2017 17: 24 New
          +9
          And kickbacks need to be blocked, many are ready to work for a minimum wage, if only to get on financial flows.
          1. Xnumx vis
            Xnumx vis 5 December 2017 17: 54 New
            +3
            Quote: Going
            And kickbacks need to be blocked, many are ready to work for a minimum wage, if only to get on financial flows.
            And you also need to raise in society such concepts as honesty and decency ... And we praise those who --- - "He knows how to live" (to steal and prosper ...)
            1. Going
              Going 5 December 2017 18: 02 New
              +5
              And we can continue this list.
              1. Shurik70
                Shurik70 5 December 2017 20: 41 New
                0
                Come on you choose who steals.
                Just take it for an axiom - in Ukraine now Steal ALL. Like in Russia in the 90s, when without it it was simply impossible to make a profit from private business. In Ukraine, this fun still lasts.
                So there now criminal cases are brought not against those who steal a lot, but against those who share a little.
                1. Going
                  Going 5 December 2017 21: 09 New
                  +3
                  And where does Ukraine mean, now we are talking about Russia.
                  1. Shurik70
                    Shurik70 5 December 2017 22: 21 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Going
                    And where does Ukraine mean, now we are talking about Russia.

                    Oh really. repeat
                    However (and unfortunately) in really big money the same rule applies around the world, and in Russia it is the same - criminal cases are brought not for stolen, but for not sharing.
        2. kapitan92
          kapitan92 5 December 2017 18: 18 New
          +7
          Quote: svp67
          So what? Do you think someone will come across this? You are a naive person. Yes, at least the salaries will be EQUAL until they clean up the PREMIUM and all sorts of additions to salaries, nothing will change, or at least they will introduce a percentage in the salary and bonus fund ...

          You are also a naive person! Until Russia starts shooting for embezzlement on an especially large scale (Art. 93 prim uk of the USSR), nothing will change.. hi
          1. Bosch
            Bosch 6 December 2017 10: 29 New
            +2
            Plus confiscation of property.
      2. Going
        Going 5 December 2017 17: 14 New
        +7
        Quote: Logall
        Theft can be detected in another way:
        Watch Who lives in what conditions and what drives ... And also relatives!
        Well, then look What does it do! I mean officials ...
        Many thefts can thus be prevented! And not when it comes up After a few years ...


        Only no one wants to do this, because many are tied up, and only with disagreements does a war like this begin. Alexander, good evening! hi
        1. Logall
          Logall 5 December 2017 17: 21 New
          12
          Quote: Going
          Only nobody wants to do this,

          Victor, hi I think they are engaged! But not for the purpose of detecting crimes, But for the purpose of blackmail and profit!
          1. Going
            Going 5 December 2017 17: 23 New
            +7
            That’s for sure, all the siloviki are guilty of this.
            1. Crowe
              Crowe 5 December 2017 17: 44 New
              +4
              Everyone knows that they steal and take bribes, but no one does anything! After all, those who must fight this are stealing and taking bribes! Vicious circle. And to break it, you need to start with someone. From the prime minister or from the president?
              1. Going
                Going 5 December 2017 17: 46 New
                +9
                Again the question is in the air - "who are the judges?"
                1. Logall
                  Logall 5 December 2017 17: 52 New
                  +9
                  Quote: Going
                  Again the question is in the air - "who are the judges?"
                  Quote: Logall
                  We must be the people!

                  But essentially
                  Quote: Logall
                  '' Great ruler of Russia ''
                  1. Going
                    Going 5 December 2017 17: 54 New
                    +5
                    Quote: Logall
                    Moreover - few of us do not steal!


                    But what about this? and does the people want this?
                    1. Logall
                      Logall 5 December 2017 17: 57 New
                      10
                      Wants! The question is - can it?
                      1. Going
                        Going 5 December 2017 18: 03 New
                        +6
                        He wants it, but laziness and I wait - they don’t.
              2. Nyrobsky
                Nyrobsky 5 December 2017 23: 37 New
                0
                Quote: Crowe
                Everyone knows that they steal and take bribes, but no one does anything! After all, those who must fight this are stealing and taking bribes!
                Well, they don’t do anything. What kind of shoblu they got.
                Quote: Crowe
                Vicious circle. And to break it, you need to start with someone. From the prime minister or from the president?
                C'mon .... Start with yourself. What did the president not please? Governors began to be taken more often than pickpockets in trams. Here the other day, the prosecution demanded for Ulyukaev a dozen real sentences with the payment of a fine of 500 million rubles. Do you really think that Ulyukaev is the merit of Pupkin’s opera from the police department? What GDP was not aware of that the servants of the sovereign are going to accept the bunker of the Minister of Economic Development?
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 5 December 2017 23: 54 New
                  +4
                  Here, the IOC of our Mudko suspended his life from participation in the Olympics (and forbade participation of our entire team in games), and the president manually controls everything. I still remember his cue about Mutko, and the fact that "he got it there" ... For several years our guarantor has figured out that Mutko is muddying there.
                  1. Nyrobsky
                    Nyrobsky 6 December 2017 00: 01 New
                    0
                    Quote: mordvin xnumx
                    Here, the IOC of our Mudko suspended his life from participation in the Olympics (and forbade participation of our entire team in games), and the president manually controls everything. I still remember his cue about Mutko, and the fact that "he got it there" ... For several years our guarantor has figured out that Mutko is muddying there.
                    Ministers are a flock of prime minister. Without Mutko’s GDP, there are a bunch of questions that are clearly in a higher priority for Russia than whether they expelled Mutko from the IOC or did not expel them.
                    1. Mordvin 3
                      Mordvin 3 6 December 2017 00: 25 New
                      +3
                      And was the Prime Minister GDP, or was the chair warming too?
                      1. Nyrobsky
                        Nyrobsky 6 December 2017 00: 36 New
                        0
                        Quote: mordvin xnumx
                        And was the Prime Minister GDP, or was the chair warming too?
                        Volodya, if you had a classmate in a class who went to prison, this does not mean that you are a criminal authority. Moreover, this is not a reason for poking a finger at you and saying that there is no faith for you. you studied with a bully. Let’s hang on the GDP that somewhere the head of some kind of tattered administration was tying money allocated for snow removal in the area. There are differentiation of powers and measures of responsibility enshrined in the Constitution, hence the dances. GDP already practically controls the country beyond authority in manual mode, because until the government kicks the government, it will not move. And yet, yes, today, in pursuit of these embezzlers, they detained the head of the forensic center of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation and his deputy.
                2. nik-karata
                  nik-karata 6 December 2017 08: 04 New
                  0
                  I beg of you!!! Well, isn’t it funny for you that the MINISTER "accepted" with a bribe 2 million greens !!! ??? You are not a child! This money is the level of a regional / regional official. Maybe you do not live in Russia? Well then, I’ll say that in Russia the MINISTER for 2 million greens will not take the fifth point from the chair. Or maybe he went for sausage ??? And then he was not afraid of extorting a bribe from a friend of the GDP. Well, kindergarten, right .....
                  1. Nyrobsky
                    Nyrobsky 6 December 2017 10: 07 New
                    +1
                    Quote: nik-karata
                    I beg of you!!! Well, isn’t it funny for you that the MINISTER "accepted" with a bribe 2 million greens !!! ??? You are not a child! This money is the level of a regional / regional official. Maybe you do not live in Russia? Well then, I’ll say that in Russia the MINISTER for 2 million greens will not take the fifth point from the chair.
                    We are not talking about money. It is clear that 2 lyamas, this is not the amount for which a conditional Russian minister can actually sit on a bunk. Ulyukaev was a shred, and paid for it. Not only did he decide to "play" with state ownership in the form of a block of shares in a state company, the fate of which they had already decided without him, so he also decided to cut the dough on this. So ... And yet, yes, you underestimate the regional and regional officials. Gaiser and another 19 people of his administration in Komi took with embezzlement more than a billion rubles, despite the fact that 840 thousand people live in the whole subject, as in one regional city and there is practically no industrial base. Put a new painted bench there - everyone will notice, but then they took away a billion from the last bench and reported about some kind of growth.
                    1. nik-karata
                      nik-karata 6 December 2017 10: 41 New
                      +1
                      And yet, yes, you underestimate the regional and regional officials

                      Gaiser and another 19 people of his administration in Komi took more with theft billion rubles

                      1 (rubles): 000 (officials) = 000 (rubles)
                      50 000 000 (rubles): 60 (costs 1back approximately) = 833 333,333 (dollars)
                      And you say that I underestimate !!! hi
                      1. Nyrobsky
                        Nyrobsky 6 December 2017 11: 10 New
                        0
                        Quote: nik-karata
                        1 (rubles): 000 (officials) = 000 (rubles)
                        50 000 000 (rubles): 60 (costs 1back approximately) = 833 333,333 (dollars)
                        And you say that I underestimate !!!

                        What a "calculator" you are - in a good way good But this is one case. And if you evaluate their "work" on a national scale, it’s really a disaster ... It turns out that we can’t feed the poor just because officials won’t get drunk.
                3. Bosch
                  Bosch 6 December 2017 10: 32 New
                  0
                  Guberians cannot be in office for more than one term.
      3. stas
        stas 5 December 2017 17: 22 New
        +3
        So Putin will not cancel his decrees on salaries to deputies in 500 thousand. And who is Putin’s decree.
        1. Logall
          Logall 5 December 2017 17: 27 New
          14
          Quote: stas
          who decree to Putin.

          We must be the people! But he doesn’t even go to debates, tell the program of action ... Why bother himself when they vote so, with the wording - `` he will win anyway! ''!
          He spit on the people! He has other ambitions - to go down in history as the `` great ruler of Russia '' ...
        2. Piramidon
          Piramidon 5 December 2017 21: 53 New
          +2
          Quote: stas
          So Putin will not cancel his decrees on salaries to deputies in 500 thousand. And who is Putin’s decree.

          Salaries of deputies are not appointed by Putin, but by themselves. Pay attention to what the first session of the Duma begins after each election - with a discussion of the size and approval of salaries.
      4. Saburov
        Saburov 5 December 2017 21: 06 New
        +2
        In "Voentelekom" revealed large theft


        Not at all surprised. If our entire bureaucratic-barging system is built from bottom to top on corruption. Why be surprised?

        We believe in the Tricky Plan!
      5. MOSKVITYANIN
        MOSKVITYANIN 5 December 2017 23: 17 New
        0
        210ox
        Alexander hi I would introduce an article in the Criminal Code for exceeding the salary of the general director more than twice the salary of an ordinary engineer or specialist worker.

        They themselves agreed to such a position, provided that in the event of a bankruptcy of the almshouse or violations of the accounting and tax reporting, you will bear subsidiary civil liability and the full administrative and criminal ....
        You have no idea why it is full of job advertisements for general directors or heads of departments, well then read Ilf and Petrov "The Golden Calf" ....
    2. Svarog
      Svarog 5 December 2017 17: 09 New
      +3
      Quote: Logall
      Theft can be detected in another way:
      Watch Who lives in what conditions and what drives ... And also relatives!

      It’s interesting why they still haven’t done it, because it’s very simple ..
      1. Grandfather
        Grandfather 5 December 2017 17: 30 New
        +3
        just wondering, somewhere they don’t steal from us ???
        1. Logall
          Logall 5 December 2017 17: 34 New
          +9
          Quote: Dead Day
          just wondering, somewhere they don’t steal from us ???

          Moreover - few of us do not steal!
          1. Grandfather
            Grandfather 5 December 2017 17: 41 New
            0
            Quote: Logall
            Quote: Dead Day
            just wondering, somewhere they don’t steal from us ???

            Moreover - few of us do not steal!

            but the scale, just already depressing, Stalin needs.
          2. Baloo
            Baloo 5 December 2017 18: 56 New
            +3
            Logall Today, 17:34 p.m. ↑
            Quote: Dead Day
            just wondering, somewhere they don’t steal from us ???
            Moreover - few of us do not steal!

            I do not steal, I just do my job every day. Salary is almost like a pension, pension is almost like the average in the country.
            The first deputy general director of Voentelecom JSC Oleg Savitsky and the finance director Evgeny Zhilkov were detained on suspicion of a particularly large fraud in the supply of equipment to the Ministry of Defense, including routers,

            I have the honor. It's a shame for the state.
          3. Paranoid50
            Paranoid50 5 December 2017 21: 41 New
            +1
            Quote: Logall
            few of us steal!

            Yes, I heard the statement that we, in Russia, can safely plant anyone for ten years, and at heart everyone will know why. yes
            1. IL-18
              IL-18 5 December 2017 23: 32 New
              +1
              Eh, the casket just opens. The solution is the simplest: legislators and officials at all levels are obliged to open, after a couple of years of work in the relevant bodies, a legal entity, and force them to work under strict control over the implementation of each letter and dot of all federal laws, decrees, decrees, orders, orders and all that born in their offices. And all activities should be freely available for any citizen of the Russian Federation. Fines and deadlines in double size.
              Under these conditions, there are no people wishing to become deputies and officials for the purpose of profit.
            2. MOSKVITYANIN
              MOSKVITYANIN 6 December 2017 00: 53 New
              +1
              Quote: Paranoid50
              Quote: Logall
              few of us steal!

              Yes, I heard the statement that we, in Russia, can safely plant anyone for ten years, and at heart everyone will know why. yes


              "No matter how much you don’t steal from the state, you won’t return yours" - a Russian popular saying ....
        2. 210ox
          210ox 5 December 2017 18: 20 New
          +4
          There was such a moment in history. Emperor Nikolai arrived in Smolensk and the governor decided to show a piece of the fortified wall repaired after the invasion of Napoleon .. Nikolai froze in perplexity .. noticed his son Alexander- "You know, Sasha, in my opinion we don’t steal in Russia only you Yes, I ... "I'm not that the kings are unkempt. And the fact that EVERYTHING ...
          Quote: Dead Day
          just wondering, somewhere they don’t steal from us ???
        3. bk316
          bk316 5 December 2017 18: 34 New
          +3
          "where" - I do not know.
          And who am I
          Although ..... Fishing without a license is theft? repeat
    3. opus
      opus 5 December 2017 17: 45 New
      +6
      Quote: Logall
      See Who lives under what conditions and What drives on ...

      Yes Yes...
      http://zakupki.gov.ru/pgz/public/action/orders/in
      fo / common_info / show? notificationId = 1269653



      hesitated a bit


      Here and seats with ventilation and massage function, and a separate DVD-player for each of the passengers sitting behind, and even a refrigerator for drinks.

      28.07.2011 5 271 819,00 Russian Ruble
      http://www.cbr.ru/currency_base/daily.aspx?date_r
      eq = 28.07.2011
      840 USD 1 US Dollar 27,4439
      / looks like a fairy tale, right? /
      192 100,00 $

      Quote: Logall
      And also relatives!

      We looked ... to sense something


      The Prosecutor General of Russia said that his children started the business from scratch.
    4. spirit
      spirit 5 December 2017 17: 48 New
      +2
      Those who reveal this in our country are usually considered agents of the State Department) Dimon won’s imprisoned laughing
      1. moskowit
        moskowit 5 December 2017 18: 04 New
        +4
        Who walks amicably in a row?
        The thieves squad.
        Who walks amicably in the foot?
        Serdyukovskaya breed ...
    5. Evgeniy667b
      Evgeniy667b 6 December 2017 09: 34 New
      0
      That is why a complete confiscation of property is necessary with a recalculation of funds to the place from which they were stolen! Both for the defendants and for their immediate environment.
  2. parusnik
    parusnik 5 December 2017 17: 00 New
    +8
    And it’s strange, it doesn’t surprise already .. It sounds ordinary ... smile
  3. HEATHER
    HEATHER 5 December 2017 17: 09 New
    +3
    detained on suspicion of especially large fraud Money doesn’t happen much, if there is a lot of it, but it seems a little. A couple of lyamas to be stolen must be managed too. But they don’t know how. In prison, pasta gives ... wassat
  4. cniza
    cniza 5 December 2017 17: 11 New
    +3
    “He had many influential ill-wishers,
    they noted.


    It seems that something is not shared.
  5. Moore
    Moore 5 December 2017 17: 11 New
    +2
    The steps that he (CEO Davydov) did for Voentelecom were correct: according to 2017, the company's revenue, subject to reduction of the order from the Ministry of Defense, was to be a record for the entire existence of the organization - more than 20 billion rubles,
    said one of the interlocutors.

    Translated into Russian: if not for these nasty prosecutors, we would have stolen a record amount.
    Other interlocutors believe that the situation with the searches was “the result of a certain conflict.” He had many influential ill-wishers,
    they noted.

    I believe completely. For almost everyone steals, but prosecutors attack very selectively.
  6. SCHMEL
    SCHMEL 5 December 2017 17: 13 New
    +1
    “Are you stealing everything?”
    - No, we do not want to stand out against the general background!
  7. svp67
    svp67 5 December 2017 17: 16 New
    +1
    And, alas, this is not the last thing. Oh, a lot of all kinds of organizations attached to the Defense Ministry. And I will be very happy if it will be a systematic job of restoring order in financial discipline
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 5 December 2017 17: 31 New
      +3
      vote for EP ... the most honest party. yes
      1. svp67
        svp67 5 December 2017 17: 32 New
        +1
        Quote: Dead Day
        vote for EP ... the most honest party.

        Well, more honest than the current Communist Party ...
  8. Million
    Million 5 December 2017 17: 20 New
    +2
    A common thing for Russia! Any department has thieves everywhere! There is no master in the state, only temporary hucksters
  9. bk316
    bk316 5 December 2017 17: 24 New
    +3
    Think 3 ends done.
    And in general, where is the crime constituted, expensive - there was no need to buy, gentlemen's market.
    Here is the last director - yes, how did you spend the new ones ...
    And in general, to make it clear, this is not a state unitary enterprise, this is a joint-stock company, "military" is just a name, well, and communications of the leadership.
    1. Freeman
      Freeman 5 December 2017 18: 39 New
      +1
      Quote: bk316
      Think 3 ends done.
      And in general, where is the crime constituted, expensive - there was no need to buy, gentlemen's market.
      Here is the last director - yes, how did you spend the new ones ...
      And in general, to make it clear, this is not a state unitary enterprise, this is a joint-stock company, "military" is just a name, well, and communications of the leadership.

      Now many FSUEs or PMUs are reissuing in the form of AO. My factory from FSUE also became AO.

      The founders of JSC "VOENTELECOM" are:
      - JSC "REMBOURUZHENIE" share: 97.44% amount: 1140.6 million rubles.
      - RUSSIAN DEFENSE MINISTRIES share: 2.56% amount: 30.01 million rubles.
      In turn, the founder of REMVOORUZHENIE JSC is:
      - RUSSIAN DEFENSE MINISTRIES share: 100% amount: 24474.2 million rubles.

      IMHO. According to the meaning of the transaction, it seems that the RUSSIAN DEFENSE MINISTRIES shifted money "from one pocket to another." But the form of AO implies the possibility of including such an enterprise in the next “privatization package” of state assets (which our “state” periodically does) and falling into the hands of the “right people”.
      But in this case, “something went wrong,” as the phrase hints at, “He had many influential ill-wishers.”
      1. bk316
        bk316 6 December 2017 11: 51 New
        +2
        Now many FSUEs or PMUs are reissuing in the form of AO. My factory from FSUE also became AO.

        Well, yes, and the goal of AO, PROFIT, obtained in any legal way.
        Once again, any commercial organization, and Voentelecom JSC is such, can set any price for its products, unless price regulation mechanisms apply to these products.
        So there is no composition on this article.
        And about Voentelekom and ill-wishers, google something like "Voentelekom and frequencies" or "Voentelekom and the big three" and you’ll understand everything.
  10. fa2998
    fa2998 5 December 2017 17: 53 New
    0
    Quote: cniza
    “He had many influential ill-wishers,
    they noted.


    It seems that something is not shared.

    It’s precisely this criterion that allows someone to be brought to justice. These crooks, unscrupulous officials, and these thieves don’t have to allocate money at all. If there is an opportunity to bring money directly to people, it is better to give money to pensioners, people with disabilities, children, etc. Without any programs, such as free medicines, breakfasts, sanatoriums, etc. Everything is muddy, money will not reach. Competitive cash person. And grandiose state construction projects and programs will wait. hi
  11. ul_vitalii
    ul_vitalii 5 December 2017 17: 56 New
    +8
    These goats need to be taught as follows: they gave Tamodin six years, well, give Savelyev and Zhilkov the next twelve. Caught the next, please, you are twenty-four. And now I wonder where and when this chaos will end, who appoints and promotes them? Have they punished at least one virtue from the side? am
    1. Going
      Going 5 December 2017 18: 05 New
      +5
      I repeat - "who are the judges?"
      1. ul_vitalii
        ul_vitalii 5 December 2017 19: 52 New
        +7
        One company, feel free to rank them.
    2. zivXP
      zivXP 5 December 2017 18: 39 New
      +1
      Caught the next, please, you are twenty-four.

      In China, they even shoot, but still they steal it. From childhood it is necessary to educate so that someone else is a TABU. My children are already adults, but they won’t take a stranger for anything.
      1. ul_vitalii
        ul_vitalii 5 December 2017 20: 01 New
        +8
        It’s bad that our children, brought up properly, are not in demand in such positions
        1. zivXP
          zivXP 5 December 2017 22: 30 New
          +1
          They are still ahead. The main thing is to remain decent, and everything else will come with time and experience. Let the institutes graduate first. The senior group picked up - no one smokes. I even laugh at you as a sports company. There is still hope for the younger generation.
  12. zivXP
    zivXP 5 December 2017 18: 33 New
    +1
    And what honestly can no longer work?
  13. Antor
    Antor 5 December 2017 18: 45 New
    +2
    It’s time in the country to finally outline the limits of responsibility of scammers robbing the country according to various schemes and regarding the country's defense capability, envisaging toughening sometimes just ridiculous sentences for kidnappers of multimillion-dollar funds from the budget, including especially under contracts of the Moscow Region — not only up to life-time, but and consider the death penalty ... !!!!!! One gets the impression that the more we talk about the fight against corruption, fraud, theft of budget funds, etc., the more this process evolves and as correctly noted in this article, another one takes the place of the former thief ... !!!! ???? Not only have they lost their conscience, the worst is that nobody is afraid of anything when they put their hands in the pocket of the state, and here they are all who we don’t ask, without the necessary money for small and medium-sized businesses, pensioners with beggarly pensions, allowances, etc. - the country is simply impoverished after such grabbing by tens and hundreds of millions for themselves of all kinds of loved ones. And this despite the fact that such robber officials do not have weak salaries and a lot of privileges. It is clear that there is a lack of sometimes necessary personnel, but to produce impunity in subsequent generations is simply the way to nowhere.
  14. Alexey RA
    Alexey RA 5 December 2017 18: 47 New
    +2
    It should be noted, the newspaper writes, that the predecessor of Mr. Davydov as head of Voentelekom Nikolay Tamodin was sentenced to 2015 in the year by the Moscow Savelovsky District Court for embezzlement to six years in prison.

    The place is damned! smile
  15. In100gram
    In100gram 5 December 2017 19: 00 New
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    It’s interesting how everyone got excited. And EP, and GDP dragged on, and the rest. Did they steal something? Personally? Revealed the facts of theft. The investigation and the court will sort it out. The fight against theft is ongoing, and the court will establish guilt. Or there are those who want to jump on the "guy" to identify someone. It is necessary to create conditions under which it will not be possible to steal. What, in general, is done with the "coloring" of the GOZ money. And indiscriminately yell "all around thieves," it all can.
    1. nik-karata
      nik-karata 6 December 2017 08: 18 New
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      And EP, and GDP dragged on, and the rest

      They all lie! How to drink give lies! Nothing to do with it, no one to do with it! Neither GDP nor EP nor DAM!
      The fight against theft is in progress

      But what about! Not just walking, but a bulldozer, so to speak, over ordinary people. Even laziness Full name repeated to repeat: Serdyukov, Perdyukov, Vasiliev ..... etc.
      and guilt will be established by the court

      Well, here they made fun of those who came across such a trial !!! Remember, the general in Primorye was given 6 years probation))))) Such punishment EVEN IN the Criminal Code is not provided !!!
  16. groks
    groks 5 December 2017 19: 13 New
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    Well, I’m saying that it’s necessary to immediately put those who have sat down on budget money. The meaning of time to lose and people nerves to wind.
  17. TsUS-Air Force
    TsUS-Air Force 5 December 2017 19: 43 New
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    this is Russia baby, and the more so the Russian army! where everything is stolen from the past Minister of Defense and ending with ordinary conscripts!
  18. bsk_una
    bsk_una 5 December 2017 20: 02 New
    +3
    Wow, this is ours! To steal and not to give back! Zakharchenko tapped out all ten billion from us and did not quack. This is ours. In the verbiage of the country's leadership, the fight against bribery, but in fact connivance to the embezzlers, oligarchs (oligarchs, by the way, also embezzlers).
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 6 December 2017 00: 03 New
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      Quote: bsk_una
      Wow, this is ours! To steal and not to give back! Zakharchenko tapped out all ten billion from us and did not quack. This is ours. In the verbiage of the country's leadership, the fight against bribery, but in fact connivance to the embezzlers, oligarchs (oligarchs, by the way, also embezzlers).

      So what about Zakharchenko? Paid off? Really sit down for a real time. Billions are seized and turned into state revenue. What's wrong?
      Quote: vissarion
      Theft identified. And the point is that. All the same, everyone will lower the brakes. Mr. Bastrykin will take care of this, remove his refusal and fraudsters to freedom. Congratulations on that. Empty air shake. Under Stalin, this shobla would be tied to the wall without any mercy and resentment. And now we have democracy and human rights. Steal as much as possible, you will be a deputy of the State Duma from ED.
      Ulyukaev 10 years shines and a fine of 500 Lyam. What does Bastrykin have to do with it? And under Stalin, it’s not at all a fact that the entire shobla would have been put up against the wall. They would work at national construction sites - yes. Vissarionitch, he was a man of kind soul. Under Yeltsin, more people died.
  19. Nemesis
    Nemesis 5 December 2017 21: 05 New
    +2
    In the USSR, large-scale theft was punished with the death penalty with confiscation of property ... This is the only effective way to combat embezzlement ...
  20. vissarion
    vissarion 5 December 2017 21: 25 New
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    Theft identified. And the point is that. All the same, everyone will lower the brakes. Mr. Bastrykin will take care of this, remove his refusal and fraudsters to freedom. Congratulations on that. Empty air shake. Under Stalin, this shobla would be tied to the wall without any mercy and resentment. And now we have democracy and human rights. Steal as much as possible, you will be a deputy of the State Duma from ED.
  21. japs
    japs 5 December 2017 22: 27 New
    +3
    The election campaign is still a long way off.
    I can imagine what will happen to its beginning. How many "suddenly" cases will open in
    MO and other areas.
    We will all walk knee-deep in the mud ...
    Where are you, Lavrenty Pavlovich?
  22. bondxnumx
    bondxnumx 5 December 2017 22: 59 New
    +1
    Under the Union, they would have long been shot for much smaller amounts! "The HIGHEST measure of Social Protection" --- And all sorts of liberoids squealing about the value of Human life, These schemers --- Not People!
  23. Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 6 December 2017 00: 49 New
    +5
    Nyrobsky,
    All the same, let me remind you that it was Putin who built the power vertical. And he has the support of the people. And for 17 years it would be nice to explain where we are moving and what kind of society we are building.
  24. av58
    av58 6 December 2017 03: 40 New
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    It's time to introduce hard labor for life.
  25. Eurodav
    Eurodav 6 December 2017 04: 39 New
    +2
    Quote: kapitan92
    Quote: svp67
    So what? Do you think someone will come across this? You are a naive person. Yes, at least the salaries will be EQUAL until they clean up the PREMIUM and all sorts of additions to salaries, nothing will change, or at least they will introduce a percentage in the salary and bonus fund ...

    You are also a naive person! Until Russia starts shooting for embezzlement on an especially large scale (Art. 93 prim uk of the USSR), nothing will change.. hi

    Why are you in extremes then? It’s the 21st century, and you're all about primitivism ... There are other ways to punish!
    Ponder the words of one intelligent person: you need not tighten the punishment, but make the punishment inevitable! So that a person, no matter how high he sits, always knows and is sure that the punishment for a crime will overtake him in any case and in any scenario! On the same board there is an official and a simple worker, by the inevitability of punishment ... but by responsibility for the committed, the punishment of the official is an order of magnitude higher, since the consequences of the official committed are incomparably harder!
    That's just the way we will defeat corruption, but this requires such cleaning in the ranks of the UK, the prosecutor's office, the courts, so that my mother does not grieve!
  26. DEDPIHTO
    DEDPIHTO 6 December 2017 05: 51 New
    +2
    Quote: mordvin xnumx
    Nyrobsky,
    All the same, let me remind you that it was Putin who built the power vertical. And he has the support of the people. And for 17 years it would be nice to explain where we are moving and what kind of society we are building.

    He always tells the people only what they want to hear. He says, doesn’t mean does, and what he does, doesn’t say, although you can’t hide the sewing in a bag. It’s enough to recall the classics, “Who lives well in Russia,” and everything becomes clear ..
  27. Alex Justice
    Alex Justice 6 December 2017 11: 14 New
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    How Singapore defeated corruption
    The determination with which Lee Kuan Yew began his reforms best describes his statement: “If you want to defeat corruption, be prepared to send your friends and relatives to prison.” From now on, the Law ruled in the country. Everyone was equal before him - be it a mid-level official or a member of parliament. According to the new government, in order to cope with official crimes, it was necessary to eliminate the established scheme: power - money - corruption. For these purposes, the Ministry of Finance has developed a special anti-corruption program, which included a number of measures. Here are some of them: - ensuring transparency of the control of lower officials by higher ones; - rotation of officials to avoid the formation of corruption ties; - carrying out sudden inspections - improving procedures for interaction with citizens and organizations in order to eliminate bureaucratic delays; The party, Lee Kuan Yew, also took care of the formation of independent and objective media that would impartially cover all corruption scandals ........

    Source: http://fishki.net/1437936-kak-singapur-pobedil-ko
    rrupciju.html © Fishki.net
  28. nik-karata
    nik-karata 6 December 2017 11: 36 New
    +1
    Nyrobsky,
    It turns out that we cannot feed the poor just because officials will not get drunk.
    This, Colega, is an old truth. Therefore, it is a shame for the state! request