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Estonian Parliament: And if tomorrow is war? ..

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During the meeting of the Estonian Parliamentary Committee on Defense and Security, a initiative that focused on itself was heard. According to the portal BaltNews, commission chairman Hannes Hanso said that there are “gaps” in the protection of the population in case of a direct military threat in Estonia. In particular, an insufficient number of shelters for the civilian population was attributed to such gaps.


To solve this problem, Ants Laaneots, a member of the Estonian parliament, offered to finance a program that involves the creation of a bomb shelter under each multi-storey building. From the statement of the Estonian politician:
Old systems (security) are destroyed, and we have not yet created new ones. Let's learn from the Swiss experience - we will build shelters under each house.


Estonian Parliament: And if tomorrow is war? ..


Laaneots also cited the example of Finland. According to him, in Helsinki, the civil defense system is designed so well that every resident of the Finnish capital can take refuge in a shelter during hostilities.

Now, the Estonian parliament is assessing the amount that must be allocated from the budget for the implementation of the program to create bomb shelters "under each house."
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  1. Proxima
    Proxima 5 December 2017 14: 11 New
    +7
    Old systems (security) are destroyed, but we have not created new ones yet. Let's learn from the Swiss experience - we will build shelters under each house (from the text).

    Chicken is not a bird, Estonia is not Switzerland! To learn from the experience of Switzerland, you need at least a miserable semblance of a financial system to have what this alpine country possesses. fellow
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 5 December 2017 14: 17 New
      12
      Estonian Parliament: And if tomorrow is war? ..

      The day after tomorrow may not come! yes
      1. Jedi
        Jedi 5 December 2017 14: 19 New
        +8
        Hi Sasha! hi
        Quote: SRC P-15
        The day after tomorrow may not come!

        Given the speed of reaction and thinking of the Estonians - I would not make plans for tomorrow ... repeat
        1. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 5 December 2017 14: 22 New
          +4
          Hello Pasha! hi
          Quote: Jedi
          Given the speed of reaction and thinking of the Estonians - I would not make plans for tomorrow.

          Anyway, they would be better to ask themselves: when will it come yesterday ?! wassat
          1. Angel_and_Demon
            Angel_and_Demon 5 December 2017 14: 28 New
            +7
            Quote: SRC P-15
            Anyway, they would be better to ask themselves: when will it come yesterday ?!

            here you are laughing - and they will build a time machine - and will be constantly on the day before yesterday hi
            1. SRC P-15
              SRC P-15 5 December 2017 14: 29 New
              +3
              Quote: Angel_and_Demon
              here you are laughing - and they will build a time machine - and will be constantly on the day before yesterday

              Meanwhile, we will leave tomorrow! laughing
              1. Jedi
                Jedi 5 December 2017 14: 32 New
                +8
                Quote: SRC P-15
                Hello Pasha!

                The fifth is already ... lol Maxim I!
                Quote: SRC P-15
                Anyway, they would be better to ask themselves: when will it come yesterday ?!

                They successfully exchanged their "yesterday" for the American "today." fool
                1. SRC P-15
                  SRC P-15 5 December 2017 14: 35 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Jedi
                  The fifth one already ... Maxim I!

                  Max, sorry, reported! repeat
                  1. Jedi
                    Jedi 5 December 2017 14: 38 New
                    +6
                    Everything is normal, Sasha. wink drinks
              2. Angel_and_Demon
                Angel_and_Demon 5 December 2017 14: 33 New
                +7
                Quote: SRC P-15
                Meanwhile, we will leave tomorrow!

                and who will you attack there? because they will not be there request
                1. SRC P-15
                  SRC P-15 5 December 2017 14: 39 New
                  +5
                  Quote: Angel_and_Demon
                  and who will you attack there? because they will not be there

                  And why should we attack - that's why we will leave tomorrow! Let them attack themselves - the day before yesterday against yesterday. wassat
                  1. Angel_and_Demon
                    Angel_and_Demon 5 December 2017 14: 42 New
                    +8
                    here we will fight with phantoms laughing
          2. Shurik70
            Shurik70 5 December 2017 14: 30 New
            +5
            Quote: SRC P-15

            Anyway, they would be better to ask themselves: when will it come yesterday ?! wassat

            It seems to me that the photo is an incomplete quorum of the meeting.
            But nothing, they will come yesterday, then they will vote.
            wassat
        2. 210ox
          210ox 5 December 2017 14: 44 New
          +2
          Maxim, good afternoon ... I wouldn’t have planned for an hour ahead .. For so much time would have been spent only on tying shoelaces .. wassat
          Quote: Jedi
          Hi Sasha! hi
          Quote: SRC P-15
          The day after tomorrow may not come!

          Given the speed of reaction and thinking of the Estonians - I would not make plans for tomorrow ... repeat
          1. Jedi
            Jedi 5 December 2017 14: 50 New
            +3
            Dima, welcome! hi In order to tie shoelaces, you must first learn how to tie them. And how much time will it take to study? wink lol
      2. antivirus
        antivirus 5 December 2017 16: 31 New
        0
        And if tomorrow is war? ..- if tomorrow the pipe calls to Kolyma on a campaign?
        NEA-AA-DO NEUTRAL STATUS WAS CONFIRMED.
        and so-- and prepare coffins and shelters
      3. Orionvit
        Orionvit 5 December 2017 16: 40 New
        0
        And if tomorrow is war?
        In order not to ask this question, you need to be friends with a neighbor who, by the way, can erase this Estonia with one spit. But even if this happens, well, they beg for a long time and actively.
      4. Sanichsan
        Sanichsan 6 December 2017 15: 52 New
        +1
        Quote: SRC P-15
        The day after tomorrow may not come!

        so in this and salt! they will build shelters, and so will everyone hide in them. Well, like cockroaches when they turn on the light ... evil Russians will come and no one! what a cunning strategy wink like the Russians will see that there is no one and leave.
    2. Jedi
      Jedi 5 December 2017 14: 17 New
      +7
      This initiative is an occasion to ask for money from the EU and the United States to "fight the Russian aggression." And what - the rest are asking? So it came to Estonia ...
      1. Solomon Kane
        Solomon Kane 5 December 2017 14: 26 New
        +5
        Instead of money, shovels. Dug dig dugouts and dugouts ...
        And better - immediately 2x2 pits, in the cemetery wassat
        Salute to the Brotherhood !!!! hi
        1. Jedi
          Jedi 5 December 2017 14: 33 New
          +6
          Kostya, hi! hi We need to throw your idea to them - a couple of months of discussions are guaranteed! lol
        2. sharp-lad
          sharp-lad 5 December 2017 21: 57 New
          0
          You can put three in 2x2! 2x0.8x2 is enough.
      2. Monos
        Monos 5 December 2017 14: 39 New
        +9
        Hello Max! hi
        Quote: Jedi
        So it came to Estonia ...

        In the light of their president’s statements, it’s not even clear who they were going to hide from. smile
        1. Jedi
          Jedi 5 December 2017 14: 51 New
          +5
          Vitya, be healthy! hi Such a president is the real face of Estonia! laughing
        2. BMP-2
          BMP-2 5 December 2017 15: 55 New
          +2
          So are they still not self-occupying yet? belay Thirty years have passed ... what laughing
        3. Orionvit
          Orionvit 5 December 2017 16: 54 New
          +1
          This is the very president who was not recognized at some regular European summit in Munich. She climbed up with her comments, and to the European official’s question: “Who are you?” She replied that she was the president of Estonia. The sight was still that. laughing Why are they puffing up there if they don’t even recognize them in Europe? laughing
          1. BMP-2
            BMP-2 5 December 2017 18: 06 New
            +1
            As Ostap Suleiman Bert, Maria Bender Bey, would say: “I recognize Brother Kersti!” laughing
    3. siberalt
      siberalt 5 December 2017 14: 20 New
      +2
      Saakashvili was detained while trying to rush from the roof. The question of the measure of restraint will be decided tomorrow. belay
      1. BMP-2
        BMP-2 5 December 2017 15: 57 New
        +3
        The situation is extremely mixed. One thing is obvious: Saakashvili has problems with the roof! laughing lol
        1. sabakina
          sabakina 5 December 2017 20: 58 New
          +4
          Quote: BMP-2
          The situation is extremely mixed. One thing is obvious: Saakashvili has problems with the roof! laughing lol

          Vladimir V., which one of the three are you talking about?
          1. BMP-2
            BMP-2 5 December 2017 21: 17 New
            +2
            Vyacheslav! hi
            Miho is so versatile ... an individual that he managed to simultaneously have problems with all three roofs at once! laughing Point by point:
            1) the roof of the eight-story building did not allow the legendary “leap” into history to make a new loafer of the Ukrainian nation - a problem!
            2) the western roof did not come up with anything more original than how to force the scimitar-like leader of the nobility to walk along the razor's edge, "risking" his life - a problem!
            3) Well, the roof went off - in Ukraine there are no psychiatrists capable of rendering qualified assistance to an unsuccessful suicidal person! laughing
            1. sabakina
              sabakina 5 December 2017 21: 21 New
              +4
              Vladimir, hi . But it’s good to have three roofs .... You’re spinning with one.
              1. BMP-2
                BMP-2 5 December 2017 21: 27 New
                +1
                Well I do not know. I think this is an amateur. Slightly paraphrasing Yuri Nikulin: "But on the other hand, with such things, and they rotate you, ah, save Allah!" repeat lol

                Here is Mishiko - it’s immediately obvious that he is an amateur! laughing laughing laughing
    4. a housewife
      a housewife 5 December 2017 15: 55 New
      +2
      Well, actually they called Finland, not Switzerland. I think the Swiss are used to living without war, for which they have refuge. But Estonia has come to paradise on earth, since they have no other problems left.
      1. BMP-2
        BMP-2 5 December 2017 18: 04 New
        +2
        You are right: mentioned Finland. Although, at first it was about adopting the Swiss experience in building shelters under houses. However, it may well be that the Estonian parliament, in fact, believes that Finland is Switzerland! laughing Well, it is quite logical to assume that since the land paradise has already been mastered, the Estonians decided to expand their possessions, by deepening into the netherworld! lol good
  2. dorz
    dorz 5 December 2017 14: 13 New
    0
    And if tomorrow is war?

    Stock up on canned fish, survive.
  3. Clyde barrow
    Clyde barrow 5 December 2017 14: 14 New
    +2
    how to create parking lots under each house, so they don’t have money, but how bomb shelters were found right away)
  4. Romanenko
    Romanenko 5 December 2017 14: 15 New
    +4
    There is an even better way to bring less uncles from NATO and listen to less pin dos, then there will be no problems how to protect the population.
    And in general, who needs these ... balts, they frightened themselves to fainting.
    We would sit straight, traded sprats and no problems.
    And now, like a cat, head climbed into a felt boot and everything is dark, scary, kirdyk !!!
    Get out, no one will touch you.
    1. Zhelezyakin
      Zhelezyakin 5 December 2017 14: 28 New
      +2
      Quote: Romanenko
      bring less uncles from NATO and listen to less pin dos, then there will be no problems how to protect the population.

      This, moreover, would be much cheaper.
    2. Orionvit
      Orionvit 5 December 2017 16: 58 New
      0
      Quote: Romanenko
      Get out, no one will touch you.

      Late. All the same, you have to answer for the bazaar. Or do you suggest, as always, to understand and forgive?
  5. papas-57
    papas-57 5 December 2017 14: 16 New
    +1
    '' there are “gaps” in the protection of the population in the event of a direct military threat in Estonia. Deputies remembered gentlemen gentlemen. It would be better if they thought which country they would take their feet to.
    1. BMP-2
      BMP-2 5 December 2017 15: 59 New
      +1
      As I understand it, the next step of the Estonian parliament will be: to ask the Ukrainians for paint, so as to cover the gaps! lol
      1. Orionvit
        Orionvit 5 December 2017 17: 03 New
        0
        Quote: BMP-2
        ask Ukrainians for paint so that they cover the gaps

        Ukrainians from the whole spectrum have only two colors.
        1. BMP-2
          BMP-2 5 December 2017 17: 57 New
          +1
          So yes: the colors of surprise and enuresis ... laughing
  6. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 5 December 2017 14: 20 New
    +2
    laughing Yes, if a large meat grinder begins, then those who survive a little longer in shelters will be envious of those who died immediately !!!
  7. HEATHER
    HEATHER 5 December 2017 14: 23 New
    +4
    I suggest that you don’t go to work for anyone. Suddenly, tomorrow is a war, but he is tired. wassat
  8. Dezinto
    Dezinto 5 December 2017 14: 24 New
    +3
    But a cool milking parlor for all reptiles in front of the USA and NATO appeared ....!
    "mnaaaaa - I want more money because because of that" "mnaaaa .......

  9. den3080
    den3080 5 December 2017 14: 25 New
    +2
    In Finland, bomb shelters are a pleasure to watch. Those who were in Helsinki and left their car there in underground parking lots in the city center saw this as bomb shelter.
    I do not pretend to be an expert in geology, but in Estonia the land is different, there to build something like that ... it's hard even to imagine.
    In Finland - a powerful granite base almost under the whole territory, only slightly slightly covered by a fertile layer. Estonia is located on soils such as St. Petersburg.
    1. dr.star75
      dr.star75 5 December 2017 15: 27 New
      0
      If there is a bomb shelter for each finale, then who will guard the borders? request
      1. oldzek
        oldzek 5 December 2017 17: 50 New
        0
        is that the same problem for me?? For example, it’s not Finland, but Sweden and Switzerland! You’re in eternal neutrality and you’re in chocolate. And then the EU ... NATO ... do you need this?
    2. sabakina
      sabakina 5 December 2017 21: 02 New
      +3
      den3080, if you recall the Soviet film "Blockade", so the architect categorically forbade digging a trench !!!! near the house!
  10. novel66
    novel66 5 December 2017 14: 26 New
    +3
    you have to kick the staff and NATO out of the country, declare yourself a demilitarized zone and live in peace (but poor)
    1. ochakow703
      ochakow703 5 December 2017 14: 40 New
      0
      Why is it poor? We also need to become people and cooperate with Russia, for such a shattered territory this is enough for the eyes. But probably not fate ...
    2. Romanenko
      Romanenko 5 December 2017 14: 42 New
      +2
      And to live richly they never shine, it was rich in the USSR, where they were kept on a special supply article.
      Did not like.
      But what can they themselves?
  11. Forcecom
    Forcecom 5 December 2017 14: 27 New
    +2
    Laughter, laughter, but the issue of civil defense is even more acute and on a much larger scale.
    1. den3080
      den3080 5 December 2017 14: 33 New
      0
      This privatization has helped. GO facilities at many enterprises in Russia are either destroyed or “redesigned” according to the needs (whims) of the owners who wanted to spit on some GO there and simply pay off or evade requests, etc. GO emergency.
    2. dr.star75
      dr.star75 5 December 2017 15: 29 New
      +1
      We do not have the GO issue. He lies dead. He is not there. If anything, save yourself as you can. hi
      1. Orionvit
        Orionvit 5 December 2017 17: 07 New
        0
        GO buried in the 90s. And why, if there was "friendship" with America. What would now put such a structure on its feet, we need Soviet acumen in such matters.
      2. win
        win 5 December 2017 20: 57 New
        +1
        In 2018, Estonian conscripts will storm the military commissariat.
        Of course, it's better to meet the end of the world in a bomb shelter
        with an annual supply of provisions belay soldier
  12. ochakow703
    ochakow703 5 December 2017 14: 37 New
    0
    Oops! We urgently need to call the godfather of Belarus, he has a small funeral business there. And what? It’ll even come down to each Estonian as a separate “refuge”. Kum is not lazy, he can open even closer.
    1. ML-334
      ML-334 5 December 2017 15: 59 New
      0
      You don’t need to go deeper, those who bury are offended, throw a lot for the same money. The bunker in the cemetery is a convenient thing, do not overpay for the funeral.
  13. Simon
    Simon 5 December 2017 14: 45 New
    0
    Well, Estonians! So there is no money in the budget, so they want to put it into the construction of bomb shelters, especially under houses. The house will collapse and fill up all the entrances and exits fool Better to live friends peacefully, without war! Do not provoke us, but let the money into the national economy or give it to pensioners. fool
    1. Orionvit
      Orionvit 5 December 2017 17: 09 New
      0
      Quote: Simon
      The house will collapse and fill up all the entrances and exits

      Well, this is if the Estonians will build. In fact, even the ground squirrel in the hole has a couple of emergency exits. laughing
      let the money into the national economy or give it to pensioners
      The fact of the matter is that they do not have their own money, they live mainly only on subsidies from the European Union. All this next "cry of Yaroslavna" is designed for that. Maybe they’ll throw some money at bomb shelters, they don’t know what to come up with to squeeze a tear from Europe. But nothing, in 2018, the money Euronishtyaks will end, let's see how the Balts will sing.
    2. sharp-lad
      sharp-lad 5 December 2017 22: 06 New
      0
      The house will collapse and fill up all the entrances and exits
      I live in a 1954 Stalin-era building in commissioning, there is a bomb shelter under it, there is one entrance at the entrance, there is also one exit, in the yard one third of the height of the house. Everything as taught in the lessons of the NVP.
  14. Simon
    Simon 5 December 2017 14: 49 New
    0
    Quote: dorz
    And if tomorrow is war?

    Stock up on canned fish, survive.

    Yes, they have a full sprat, nowhere to go, Russia is no longer taking it. laughing
  15. Kerensky
    Kerensky 5 December 2017 14: 51 New
    0
    And who will learn to hide in the folds of the terrain ?! That's how much to say that without teachers there will be nothing.
  16. farik68
    farik68 5 December 2017 14: 57 New
    0
    Guys do not flatter yourself .......)))
  17. 320423
    320423 5 December 2017 15: 12 New
    +1
    one of the relatives organized a construction campaign for the campaign (what about the fight against corruption, the Khan will soon have a revolution in the European Union, all EU members will fight corruption !!!) laughing laughing laughing
  18. Altona
    Altona 5 December 2017 15: 17 New
    0
    Quote: Proxima
    To learn from the experience of Switzerland, you need at least a miserable semblance of a financial system to have what this alpine country has.

    --------------------------
    Yes, there you can build caches in the mountains. Rocky soil is harder than concrete. laughing
  19. Altona
    Altona 5 December 2017 15: 18 New
    0
    Quote: 320423
    one of the relatives organized a construction company during the campaign

    -------------------------------
    I also thought that someone had the idea to push cement and rebar in large quantities. laughing
  20. SCHMEL
    SCHMEL 5 December 2017 15: 57 New
    +1
    in the Estonian parliament, they estimate the amount that must be allocated from the budget for the implementation of the bomb shelter program “under each house”.
    Set a task Ants Laaneots laughing Estonia's budget of about 9,5 costs € 9,7 billion tongue
    Ants Laaneots
  21. Ryzhiy A.P.
    Ryzhiy A.P. 5 December 2017 16: 13 New
    0
    Let them climb into the "gap"! Who does not know, the simplest shelter, the size of 200-height, 80-bottom, 120-top, digs in little hands.
  22. win
    win 5 December 2017 20: 53 New
    +2
    Russian Defense Minister Shoigu wrote in a geographical dictation that Estonia -
    This is the area of ​​the Kaliningrad region.
    Now the organizers are racking their brains to consider this a mistake ... am belay yes
  23. LeonidL
    LeonidL 6 December 2017 06: 52 New
    0
    Correctly! You give shelter under each house, under each fence, under each barn, under each doghouse and pigsty !!! More havens good and different! To every minister of refuge in the outhouse ... And who will attack then? Who needs limitrophs? ... but you build, build ...