Belarus: cut off a chunk of Russia

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Belarus: cut off a chunk of Russia


If 200 years ago, the Russian Empire waited for the fruit to ripen to fall into its hands, today Belarus, instead of being an ally of Moscow, would be a Catholic and Russophobic province of Poland. It was her first who decided to turn the European integrators into “not Russia”, but did not grow together.



Then there were statesmen who did not begin to argue and wait, but simply took the situation into their own hands and over 40 years completely solved this problem. And they decided beautifully, radically and, apparently, once and for all.

Polish "inheritance"



When, as a result of the divisions of Poland, the Russian empire “gained” Belarusian lands, the majority of the population of these territories was not Russian in those terms. There were no nations then, and everything was determined by faith. And according to statistics, the main denominations here were Uniates - 39% of the population, 38% - Catholics, 10% - Jews. Only 6,5% of the inhabitants were considered Orthodox, who were not crushed by the 200 years of the union imposed by the Poles.

At the same time, the Uniates were already fully integrated into Catholicism. Uniate priests studied in Catholic seminaries, service in churches went according to the Catholic rite. In Belarus, at one time, there was no Cossacks and Khmelnitsky in their own time, and therefore, billing the population took on a much wider scope. In fact, with the exception of eastern Belarus, Orthodoxy was no longer there.

Yes, people have not yet accepted this, but they didn’t have the will to resist. If 20-30 Russia had not yet come to these territories, their children or grandchildren would already be fully full-fledged Catholics, and many would even consider themselves Poles. But the case helped. St. Petersburg was able to negotiate with Prussia and Austria, and the Commonwealth was divided between the three empires.

Already in the first years after the accession, the inhabitants of eastern Belarus began to return to Orthodoxy en masse. From Russia did not have time to send priests to them and open new parishes. It was more difficult with the western part and the Vilna region. Uniatism here took strong roots, and it had to be torn out by force and cunning.

First of all, in December 1806, a separate Uniate Theological Seminary was established by decree of Alexander I in Polotsk. 22 of the year she gained the cadres for future reform. In 1828, two major events happened at once. Firstly, in the Uniate Church the service passed to the Greek-Eastern rank, and secondly, the Uniate College and the Zhirovtsy Seminary were opened. And what was important, it was forbidden to teach Uniate priests in Catholic seminaries.

And then everything was just a matter of technique and chance. It is not excluded that everything could have lasted even more years on 20-30, but which broke out in 1830-31. the Polish uprising and part of the Uniate clergy (Basilian monks) joined the rebels. It all sped up. After the defeat of the uprising and the confiscation of the lands of the 60 monasteries in favor of the “renewed” Uniates, the Russian government and the Novoiat clergy decided that the right moment had arrived.



In 1835, a unification commission was established, and 12 in February, 1839, in the week of the Orthodox Celebration, jointly served in Polotsk of all three Uniate bishops (Joseph Semashko, Vasily Luzhinsky and Anthony Zubko), a Council Act was drafted requesting the submission of the Uniate Church to the Holy Synod of the Russian Orthodox Church. The act was attached 1305 priestly signatures. 25 March 1839, Emperor Nicholas I wrote on this petition: “I thank God and accept” ...

Ukraine today

In November, 2016, the Razumkov Center conducted a survey. Of the 64,7% of the inhabitants of the country who attributed themselves to the Orthodox, 39,5% attributed themselves to the Kiev Patriarchate, 25,4% called themselves simply Orthodox, and 23,3% said that they are the congregation of the UOC-MP. Another 4,8% identified themselves as supporters of the “autocephalous” Church and 1,3% said that they were members of the Russian Orthodox Church.



There are other, less convenient figures for the Kyiv Patriarchate, but it’s still clear: the population of Ukraine is split today. Moreover, as we understand it, Orthodoxy is today simply an indicator, but not a driving force of the political process. You can, of course, wait until the fruit is ripe, and not intervene. But I am afraid that he will ripen in the other direction. If you sit and wait for the corpse of the enemy, Washington will probably be able to come up with something new instead of a bankrupt idea of ​​European integration over 5 — 10.

What do we have to do? Yes, actually, as in the case with the Uniates of Belarus, to begin to understand the problem. Obviously, a part of the Ukrainian society will long internally resist rapprochement with Russia, and a new generation should grow up. Only it should not grow under Jesuit control ...

PS I understand that now they are attacking the author with a complaint: they say, he wants to solve everything with the hands of Russia. In no case. Written since spring 2014, the most ardent opponent of this scenario. More consistent in this matter still need to look. In fact, in the 21st century there are a lot of options for “entering” the territory. Moreover, non-military, as practice shows, are the most effective.
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  1. +1
    5 December 2017 12: 18
    It's time to cook emissaries
  2. +2
    5 December 2017 12: 38
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    ] Moreover, non-military, as practice shows, are the most effective.
    [/b.BIZ... Will there be enough wisdom .. for such measures ...
    1. +1
      5 December 2017 16: 00
      There is enough wisdom. Will people be able to do this?
  3. +9
    5 December 2017 12: 54
    Remember how the confrontation between Russia and Ukraine began after the collapse of our country, the USSR? Correctly, after dividing the pie. Everyone wanted to grab a piece of himself fatter. And to achieve the goal, all the methods are good, and nationalist will do, dissatisfaction of the masses with disorder, violation of living standards, summed up under Russophobia. And I must say the Russian business of the nouveau riche gave me an occasion for this. Yes, and Old Man sins this, in the case of squeezing his business, begins to play offended ally, and threatens with an answer. But grabbers did not take into account how dangerous nationalism is. And now he is leaving obedience.
  4. +8
    5 December 2017 13: 24
    It’s even more likely not even Catholicism and Uniate, but a completely different matter. Having suddenly found themselves in Russia, Belarusians, after several centuries of Polish arrogance, finally felt like first-class people on their land. And although the Polish landlords still remained in places, after them after the Polish uprisings there was an eye and an eye and the lords were already afraid to call the Russian cattle. But it’s also worth it for a reason that Russophobia in Ukraine has never been particularly popular in Belarus, with some except for the traditionally liberal intillegiation, which A.G. Lukashenko pretty bad deal.
    1. +2
      5 December 2017 20: 27
      The Litvins fully felt the liberation of their own independent state and themselves., - enslavement, deprivation of all rights guaranteed by the most progressive European constitution, the ON Statute, closure of all national educational institutions, confiscation of property, terror, external administration, mass deportations, etc., as a result what were the three revolts that Russian science still calls Polish, although they were only ON in the territory, brutally crushed and drowned in blood! I am reminded of the "hunk" - these territories were never part of either the Moscow Principality or the Republic of Ingushetia, and descendants of completely different tribes lived in these territories, in their concepts and customs, in their own state, which for many centuries had been defended from the eastern neighbors.
      1. +2
        5 December 2017 20: 49
        About poor Litvinians, it’s you who go to the Baltic states, it’s fashionable there.
      2. +1
        5 December 2017 21: 24
        deprivation of all rights guaranteed by the most progressive European constitution- Statute of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania

        What are you progressive that European, Muscovites and not only, (greetings from Ukrainians) felt on themselves back in 1605-1613.
        Russian science is still called Polish, although they were only ON

        And ON was not part of the Commonwealth? Or was it not carried out there in violation of all the statutes of forced polonization and Catholicization? And there were no Polish lords there either?
        I am reminded of the "hunk" - these territories have never been part of either the Moscow Principality or RI

        But they were part of Novgorod-Kievan Rus. Or is it also native Polish land?
        descendants of completely different tribes lived in these territories

        Charge the old theme for the Mongolo - *********? Sorry, but crest **** to other places.
        according to their concepts and their customs

        Only at first. In the 15th beg. 16 centuries When the old Lithuanian statutes were still in effect. "We’re not destroying the grandfathers; And then they drove the Jesuits and began to drive into the Latin heresy ...
        for many centuries, defended from its eastern neighbors.

        Is it you near Smolensk that is how peace-loving hobbits defended themselves from wild eastern barbarians?
        1. +2
          5 December 2017 23: 09
          ON, you historians of ours, entered the Republic of Poland on an equal footing with the Kingdom of Poland, while retaining your state system, laws and other attributes of an independent state, even your own army .. Pans, rooted in the minds of Russian pseudo-historical science, were their own, and not Polish, called the gentry, the most influential were called tycoons and in their influence and wealth were much more powerful than the Polish .. In Novgorod-Kiev !!! Russia for a very short time under Vlidimir managed to capture the formerly independent Principality of Polatsk, one of the parts of the future united Lithuania, but even that period has a very distant relation to Muscovy, and how to some marginal lands .. For Smolensk buddy, for., and the Great Battle of Orsha we remember the Livonian War ..
          1. 0
            6 December 2017 18: 16
            Your wonderful constitution was for the gentry, or rather for a dozen tycoons, and it was cattle, these uprisings of yours in Lithuania were suppressed with unusual ease, since they did not have popular support, unlike Poland, if you are a descendant of the gentry and at the same time rusich, I Of course I sympathize with you, but if not, then fantasize further.
          2. 0
            6 December 2017 18: 18
            The Orsha victory was a little less great than you think, the Livonian war was won by mercenaries, and not these your Litvins.
          3. 0
            9 December 2017 11: 30
            Are you a descendant of the Polish-Lithuanian invaders !? Which the Catholics imposed on Belarus, took away our lands, organized genocide!?. Then I understand your sorrows.
  5. +3
    5 December 2017 14: 30
    The title of the article is a provocation. If the author lived in Belarus, he would already be sitting.
    1. +1
      5 December 2017 14: 49
      I would not want to believe, but, I'm afraid that the author is right - after reading what they write on the forums ....
      1. +1
        5 December 2017 22: 01
        They beautifully kept silence that we are responsible for any provocations. Give free rein, either one or the other will begin to bear heresy. And then together at once.
  6. +1
    5 December 2017 15: 01
    Unfortunately, first we need to put things in order at home, and with today's thought and the government, I don't really believe in that.
  7. 0
    5 December 2017 15: 52
    Belarus: cut off a chunk of Russia
    Paraphrasing a well-known saying, it turns out - ... we went to Minsk, but ended up in Kiev. wassat
  8. +1
    5 December 2017 16: 08
    Ignorance and obscurantism - this is the most popular religion today in Ukraine! Yes
  9. +9
    5 December 2017 17: 27
    An article on the principle of nails, honey, g - but bees in one pile. And in this article, Ukraine, if we are talking about Belarus? And then from the article - so from whom was Belarus cut off by a slice? From the West or from Russia ?. From the article - from the West. But I want a sensation! Give wishful thinking. Belarus will not be cut off from Russia under any circumstances. No matter how Old Man tried to become a handshake in Europe and America, he will not succeed. Therefore, to tear itself away from Russia too. And the people in Belarus are definitely Russian. A small, but it must be said, smelly, part of the Belarusian (read Polish) nationalists in his midst do not, and will not, weather. The criticism emanating to the Russians from Belarusian sites, as well as in the opposite direction, is more likely the nature of a skirmish of close relatives. When sometimes it’s hot and it’s cool, they realize that, firstly, they got excited, sometimes, secondly, you still need to live together. Otherwise, well-wishers will tear.
    1. +1
      8 December 2017 00: 47
      Quote: wbigfire
      A small, but it must be said, smelly, part of the Belarusian (read Polish) nationalists in his midst do not make weather,

      Well, in what family without freaks? Even in the DPRK, where there is no “fifth column”, from the word “completely”, lone runners periodically appear.
      Quote: wbigfire
      The criticism emanating to the Russians from Belarusian sites, as well as in the opposite direction, is more likely the nature of a skirmish of close relatives.

      Duc, dear scolding-just amuse. Yes This is normal.
      Quote: wbigfire
      secondly, you still need to live together. Otherwise, well-wishers will tear.

      Yes, they’ve been convinced more than once, yeah. Well, if anything, then back to back, and away we go. Only so. hi
  10. +1
    5 December 2017 18: 28
    Quote: Astoria
    It's time to cook emissaries

    Maybe better than commissioners? ...
    Quote: 320423
    Unfortunately, first we need to put things in order at home, and with today's thought and the government, I don't really believe in that.
  11. +2
    5 December 2017 19: 26
    Let’s put things in order with the Russian Orthodox Church, and then there are enough of our cockroaches. Something too priests climb into social life.
    1. +2
      5 December 2017 19: 53
      Did the orchestra mix up?
      The Orthodox faith does not touch, and the ministers will understand between themselves.
      The non-Christians are .......
      1. +9
        5 December 2017 22: 09
        But your friends, with pood crosses, didn’t beguile anything? Is the orchestra there?

        Nobody touches faith. All itchy hands touch it bearded. Nobody asked them to bless the rockets and climb into MEPhI. It is clear that the “people’s" want to go to heaven and they will bring any bearded man with bows to the starting table under this business, but do you have a conscience? Not a single rocket has yet flown beyond the line at which it had its fuel and inertia over. Though you buy it in holy water.

        When a soldier in the trench kisses his cross under the bronze and thanks God for being alive, this is faith. And there is no need to meddle. But from yachts and watches - yes, it smells very unchristian.
  12. +2
    5 December 2017 20: 01
    by force and cunning .., - read the annexation, the suppression of uprisings, the falsification of history, the prohibition of national symbols and language, mass deportations and executions - in a word, genocide!
    1. 0
      5 December 2017 20: 51
      Everything is like in civilized Europe, they, too, Orthodox in Catholics were not lured by buns)
    2. +3
      5 December 2017 22: 14
      The flag would be worth changing. In our or Polish - this is to your taste. History is such a thing that does not know the word "if." Psheki and Labus were no better.

      Result on the face at the moment. For people who do not live on your land - it’s not worth talking. They will decide and figure it out.
  13. +1
    5 December 2017 20: 59
    The title, of course, does not fit the text, but the author of the rights needs to adopt historical experience, and one should not forget about the modern experience of the USA.
    How they famously brought democracy and liberated peoples from dictators in Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan !! Down with the military juntas of Ukraine and the Baltic countries, we will bring them freedom and democracy on the wings of Russian bombers. For one look, do they produce chemical and bacteriological weapons!
  14. 0
    5 December 2017 22: 58
    It’s so hard, faith in God, how to share? \
  15. +1
    5 December 2017 23: 02
    How to share a child with a divorce, his feelings, I don’t know
  16. 0
    5 December 2017 23: 08
    A painful question. The history of Uniate is necessary for many even now to study.

    And the system of brainwashing, and twisting history inside out is very well debugged.
    1. 0
      7 December 2017 00: 32
      Quote from Korsar4
      A painful question. The history of Uniate is necessary for many even now to study.

      And, most interestingly, (if we talk about historical experience) - Lviv was the last city to submit to Uniate. The local citizens fought for Orthodoxy to the last. There was even an unprecedented practice of community control over priests “community suprematism over clergy,” so that they would not overrun !!! And now? The opposite is true!
  17. 0
    5 December 2017 23: 11
    Belarus is an independent state! It's time to admit it and not tear your hair about some kind of "ache" ..
    1. +3
      5 December 2017 23: 20
      Yes, you have already changed the flag. Be a man and not a prostitute. Responsible for your words and be ready to justify.

      We are independent only from the dough, damn it ... But to whom to settle down on the side - everyone has their own opinion. So do you even speak bluntly and justify ...
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  19. 0
    6 December 2017 04: 26
    Initially, we must admit that they are no longer brothers and friendly people, and already on the basis of this recognition it is possible to build a policy, and while we call the enemy a brother, no events, advances and educational programs will work,
  20. 0
    9 December 2017 12: 41
    It is very difficult to speculate on what would happen if the Russian Empire 200 years ago waited for the fruit to fall into her hands. History does not know the subjunctive mood, it happened SO HAPPENED. AND DOT.