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Loss of human capital - a long-time fact

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In recent years, we, from the highest tribunes, like to talk about the importance of human capital. This is understandable - the people have always been and will be the most valuable resource of any country, and Russia is no exception. But in real life it turns out that our talented compatriots very often try to use their talents far from Russia. And many categorically refuse to ever come back, considering Russia as a “lost” and unpromising country. And no matter how bitter it sounds, but there is some truth in it. And considerable.


Loss of human capital - a long-time fact

Limassol © Alexander Plekhanov

In order to understand what is at stake, you can look not at the Czech Republic, Finland, Germany or the United States, but at a small country like Cyprus. A small state in the Eastern Mediterranean, which is now flourishing, not least thanks to the Russians. Rather, it would be correct to say - former citizens of the USSR, of whom Cyprus is traditionally called Russian, regardless of their passports.

If you delve into history island, it turns out that two hundred years ago, Cyprus was a very unenviable place. During the Ottoman Empire, it was used as a place of exile for criminals, the island is completely devoid of natural resources and has problems even with fresh water. And about the oil, coal or gold with diamonds, Cypriots do not even dream.

Forty years ago, Cyprus was a blatant backwater, where the local population moved on broken-down buses, inherited from the British invaders, as well as on donkeys. In the seventies, tourism began to develop, but then a new misfortune happened - the Turkish occupation of the northern part of the island, which continues today.

However, the Southerners did not lose heart and in a quarter of a century they turned Aphrodite’s island into a heavenly place with a very high standard of living. And they were helped not only by the British, who seemed to have left Cyprus, without leaving, but the Russians, who took an active part in the development of the island.

It got to the point that almost 50 000 Russians, that is, Russian-speakers, live in Limassol alone. And this is every fourth resident of the city. Or maybe the third. Cyprus also poured money from Russia, especially when it was offshore, and quite a few people moved. Which would definitely be useful in the Homeland, but thanks to social experiments that began in our early nineties, all these people preferred to stay away from Russia. Unpleasant - but true. And not only those who wanted to open a restaurant, a bar or a travel agency, but also IT business representatives, financiers, businessmen, etc., came to Cyprus. And they made a significant contribution to the development of the island.

The Cyprus scenario was partly repeated in Cyprus, when people from the USSR had a noticeable impact on the whole country. And what is surprising is that both Israel and Cyprus, and many other countries, willingly support talented and passionate Russians. But in Russia, at home, they sometimes can not realize their ideas, business projects.

It is not worth talking about problems for the hundredth time, but the fact remains that the same Limassol can already be renamed to Limassols, and Paphos to Paphos. For example, in Limassol, Russian speech is heard at every turn, Russian newspapers and magazines are published and Russian radio stations broadcast. And in Paphos it got to the point that the central bus station has a huge sign in Russian. And it is at a distance of 2300 kilometers from Russia.

But radio stations and newspapers are, in principle, a trifle. The fact is that a lot of those passionate Russian people have settled in Cyprus, whose field of activity is IT business. Cypriot, but in fact Russian, IT companies can easily be found in Nicosia and Limassol, and very often on the streets of these cities you can see a Mercedes or even a Bentley with a St. George ribbon. For tens of thousands of Russian citizens, smart, talented and passionate, Cyprus has become a second homeland. And, alas, they are unlikely to return to Russia. And this means that their talents, knowledge and skills will benefit the other country.

But what is there to be surprised about? Russia has long been reminiscent of the notorious Looking Glass - one thing is said, and another is being done. For example, the last speech of Prime Minister D. Medvedev made such an impression that we live at least in Switzerland. A little more, and in every Russian family, to all appearances, the toilet bowls will be made of precious metals, and the average Moscow salary is actually more than 90 000 rubles.

True, the reality is that people run at the first opportunity from this fantastic Mirror. They are running, including to Cyprus, which - I must pay tribute to the island of Aphrodite - has a very competent business policy. In any case, the words “stop the nightmare of business”, which have already been heard in Russia more than once, cannot even enter the head of the president of the republic. Yes, and many other phrases, he also will not come to mind.

At present, the world is on the threshold of the Fourth Industrial Revolution. Which will transform it beyond recognition. This was all decided before, in the words of Napoleon, "big battalions", and now they will decide "big brains". They will allow this or that country to take a worthy place in the world. But, unfortunately, the Russian "brains" are constantly flowing abroad. As the cannibal liberal experiment began in Russia in the early nineties, so Russian talented passionaries flowed over the cordon. In some years more, in others less, but a very significant part of Russian talented people prefers to build their lives and careers away from Russia. And it is very sad.

The whole thousand-year history of Russia-Russia has shown and proved that the Russian people are unique. That the country by talented people is not only not deprived, but their number is huge. Moreover, in the world there are few peoples comparable to the Russian, so that all kinds of universal human beings and other scum can say there, retelling in a veiled form the racial theories of their Austrian vampire with mustaches.

It is high time to understand that Russia's main and most valuable asset is not gas or oil, gold and platinum, but its people. Gas and gold only gives the opportunity to live in this small group of "benefactors", and the people will give the opportunity to live in the future throughout the country. Especially those Russian passionaries, whom the current Russia regards either for stepchildren, or for surviving, but, most likely, do not see it at all. How else to explain the offices of companies, radio stations and newspapers with magazines in Cypriot cities? And in many other cities in Europe and the USA.

And these are not some isolated phenomena, but rather mass ones already. It is sad, but the Motherland has long ceased to be a mother, and more and more resembles an evil stepmother. Weighing off the crack in the form of ever-increasing taxes, prices, penalties and in return does not promise anything. In addition to problems, both now and in the future. No money, but you hold on. That is why Russian passionaries try not to wait for a bright future, but vote with their feet. For the island of Aphrodite, Prague, Berlin, Sydney, Silicon Valley, etc.

Is it a pity? Not the word as a pity. All of them would be very useful to the motherland. But they did not choose the rules of the game ...
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  1. dSK
    dSK 5 December 2017 05: 18
    +6

    Congratulations to members of the forum with international "Volunteer Day!"
    1. dSK
      dSK 5 December 2017 05: 29
      +4
      “Starting this year, Russia will celebrate a new holiday on December 5.“ Volunteer Day. ”A corresponding decree was signed by our president, Vladimir Putin. The new holiday was introduced in accordance with the UN General Assembly resolution of December 17, 1985. Then the United Nations declared December 5 as Volunteer Day the name of economic and social development. Each year, the UN Secretary General makes a report on the contribution that volunteers from various professions around the world contribute to the development and prosperity of human society. In this and subsequent years, Russia will also pay tribute to these heroic people. " hi
      1. dSK
        dSK 5 December 2017 05: 41
        +4
        Quote: "Russia's main and most valuable asset is not gas or oil, gold and platinum, but its people."

        I remember the wonderful feature film “Volunteers”, 1958, based on the novel of the same name in poetry by the poet Yevgeny Dolmatovsky.“A romantic and heroic narrative from the beginning of the country's industrialization to the post-war thaw of the 1950s. A story about the fate of the generation that endured the construction of the first stage of the Moscow Metro, the Great Patriotic War, the post-war reconstruction of the country. Cast: Mikhail Ulyanov - Nikolay Kaitanov , Peter Shcherbakov - Glory to the Ufimtsev, Leonid Bykov - Alyosha Akishin. "
        1. andrej-shironov
          andrej-shironov 5 December 2017 08: 52
          16
          smile Of course, the main wealth is the people! Only he can endure worthless power in Russia for so long. And do not lean the film "Volunteers" here, do not stain it with modern Russian realities!
          1. dSK
            dSK 5 December 2017 17: 54
            +2
            Quote: andrej-shironov
            Russian realities

            GoodVolts were, are and will be at all times. "Evade evil and do good". hi
      2. CONTROL
        CONTROL 5 December 2017 10: 14
        +9
        Quote: dsk
        "Starting this year, Russia will celebrate on December 5 a new holiday -" Volunteer Day. ":

        The existence of volunteers also implies the existence of those. who uses their services FREE! In simple terms, they - "users of volunteers" - are called freeloaders... (it’s basically “those in power”, they’re her, those in power “holding”) ... And we help the poor and the poor, without slogans and appeals ...
        1. dSK
          dSK 6 December 2017 14: 39
          +1
          Quote: CONTROL
          we help the poor and the poor,

          Orthodox view of business - The founder of Tsargrad TV channel, entrepreneur Konstantin Malofeev, spoke at the Rusfond social investment forum: "Every wealthy person is a manager of capital hired by God." This was stated by the founder of the TV channel Tsargrad, businessman Konstantin Malofeev. According to him, "any rich person should understand that he is just a money manager." “He was hired by the lord and this lord can fire him at any time. By lord I mean God,” Malofeev explained. “(The first Russian TV channel Tsargrad 11: 38,06.17)
          1. dSK
            dSK 7 December 2017 02: 31
            +1
            Quote: dsk
            "any rich person should understand that he is just a money manager" - Konstantin Malofeev

            Vladimir Putin attended the annual All-Russian Prize Award CeremonyVolunteer of Russia - 2017"6.12. 2017, Moscow. During the ceremony, the President announced that 2018 is declared the Year of Volunteer in Russia. The awards were presented in the categories “Event Volunteering”, “Social and Medical Assistance”, “Victory Volunteer”. The head of state handed the prize to the winner of the “Volunteer of the Year” nomination to the Maxim Tokarev, project manager of “Save Baikal”. Putin: "I am convinced that out of thousands, millions of sincere, sincere actions, trust, respect and mutual support are formed in society as a whole, which means that we can handle any of the most difficult tasks."
      3. Gardamir
        Gardamir 5 December 2017 14: 43
        +9
        Starting this year, Russia will celebrate on December 5 a new holiday - "Volunteer Day."
        God forbid anyone remember that this is the day of the Stalinist constitution.
    2. andrej-shironov
      andrej-shironov 5 December 2017 08: 51
      +9
      wink Shaw, the government has already run out of wage money? Have you signed up as a volunteer for the harmful enterprise of the capitalist?
      1. stas
        stas 5 December 2017 13: 12
        12
        It is time to introduce Putin’s oligarch’s Day, on which soon all Russian people will work voluntarily for a bowl of soup.
        "Glory" to the Russian capitalists and their eternal peace and shame.
        1. Dimmedroll
          Dimmedroll 11 December 2017 10: 28
          0
          Well, here you are somewhat wrong, the GDP was concluded with the Oligarchs back in 2003. Otherwise, now Russia was just a word in historical textbooks. So I think it's not worth it about Putin's oligarchs. In the life that the West has imposed on us. The oligarchs play a stronger role than governments. At the same time, our oligarchs are supported because of western borders and not only.
    3. stas
      stas 5 December 2017 13: 21
      +6
      That's when Putin will disperse the FAMILY liberal government to hell and appoint people who will build Social Fair Socialist Russia - THIS WILL BE A REAL HOLIDAY.
      1. siberalt
        siberalt 5 December 2017 14: 44
        +7
        If Putin "fires" DAM, then the collapse of the St. Petersburg organized crime group in power will begin. Another organized crime group will come - Moscow. It is necessary to change the system, and not to take out pests by the piece. hi
      2. Overlock
        Overlock 5 December 2017 22: 52
        +4
        this will never happen, since the government is a collective Putin. He is just happy with everything and he knows that after the next victory he will do nothing for the people.
        1. Dimmedroll
          Dimmedroll 11 December 2017 10: 30
          0
          The government is just anti Putin. Which works against him. An example is the government’s response to the desire of the GDP to return money from offshore companies. And it does enough for the people, but the people don’t do anything just waiting for handouts. On the ground, you need to work complaining and stuff, and not sit and let the nurses and whine. Local elites need to move themselves or complain about it.
    4. Sotskiy
      Sotskiy 5 December 2017 14: 29
      16
      Quote: dsk

      Congratulations to members of the forum with international "Volunteer Day!"

      Become a Volunteer, work on public-private partnerships without a “contract”, pay for the treatment of children and yourself abroad, because we have optimization of medicine! Free the state from the obligation of social responsibility! Yes, do not ask for pensions, but rather die, and you will become our favorite volunteer?)))
      1. Dimmedroll
        Dimmedroll 11 December 2017 10: 31
        0
        And you wrote a great slogan that is valid all over the world unfortunately. But the volunteers in your statement have nothing to do with it.
  2. Same lech
    Same lech 5 December 2017 05: 24
    +5
    It's time to realize that Russia's main and most valuable asset is not gas or oil, gold and platinum, but its people.


    Common truth what how to get the powers that be to develop invention, small business, grass-roots initiative ... after all, all this is suppressed by constantly changing game rules by the state ...
    Now the financial authorities of RUSSIA are concerned about the problem of withdrawing shadow salaries of ordinary citizens ... they would be taxed and people don’t want to do it voluntarily ... knowing how this will end ... and we live playing cat and mouse with power
    1. CONTROL
      CONTROL 5 December 2017 10: 50
      15
      Quote: The same Lech
      It's time to realize that Russia's main and most valuable asset is not gas or oil, gold and platinum, but its people.

      ... now the financial authorities of RUSSIA are preoccupied with the problem of withdrawing shadow salaries of ordinary citizens ... they would have to tax them and people don’t want to do it voluntarily ... knowing how this will end ... and we live playing cat and mouse with power

      Somehow, by chance, I looked somewhere ... in the section "I need" tons and syuds, at the enterprises of the leading engineering, chemical industries, electronics, defense products, construction ... and the like, insignificant junk!
      So - yes there, yes, they are required! Engineers, technologists, highly qualified specialists up to the chief engineers! The proposed salary is based on a fairly significant experience (up to 5-7 years of work in the specialty): in the range of 23500 - 30000 - 50000 rubles (we are talking about Russian rubles, if so ...).
      --------------------------------
      The camp was captured by Chubais, Medvedevs, Nabiullins, Kudrins and other nuts - which besides eating at the throat and ... how would it be that they would not be banned again? ... - crap! in ... - they cannot do anything else by their very nature !!!
      What we have built in Russia is not capitalism, but "atrocity with a human face"; in the sense of what they are doing with him, with that face!
      ... The case with social programs, pensions, support for young families, motherhood and childhood, primary / secondary / higher / special ... education, medicine, culture and many, many other things just goes to the point that most working people (!!!) will be incredibly grateful to the rating-legitimate authorities for a large and deep plate of delicious stew of fish fins and sheep’s entrails ... with a piece of peeled bread cut in half with bran ... This is - judging by the contrast between the incomes of the so-called. "oligarchs" and the so-called. "working people"!
      But everything is considered elementary, rude (without claims to absolute accuracy of numbers, but with statistically confirmed order of these numbers ...):
      - gross domestic profit per month, say 10 trillion. den unit
      - able-bodied population - 100 million people;
      - share - on a piece of paper! - what is this? 10 lyam each month?
      Well, for the maintenance of this very state-7 - Duc still a year more than 30 goes to the snout?
      ... Well, nonsense, of course ...
      But really - the average (equalized) salary of an average (equalized) employee should be in Russia in the range of 130000-150000 rubles. , which roughly corresponds to the notorious Central European and Central American standards!
      Hence the question: - where is the money, Zin? Or, - in the Odessa version - "she grabbed him by the sleeve and repeatedly asked - Osia, ide you made money?" Where the "axis" is our financial sector of government ...
      -----------------------------
      So it remains to rely on volunteers; well, or in different versions and interpretations - on God! ...
      -------------------------------
      (yes, to! ... the figure "about GDP" is "mid-ceiling", but the principle is true and unshakable! it is called - "social justice" !!!)
      1. turbris
        turbris 5 December 2017 22: 58
        +2
        What nonsense are you talking about? Does everyone count how many lyamas you have to earn? So to delirium tremens, you will count with such a level of understanding, take care of yourself.
        1. CONTROL
          CONTROL 6 December 2017 08: 55
          +3
          Quote: turbris
          What nonsense are you talking about? Does everyone count how many lyamas you have to earn? So to delirium tremens, you will count with such a level of understanding, take care of yourself.

          It’s for the especially “gifted” - it’s about the level of state revenue (created, as Sobyanin recently said, by the “extra population”) - moreover, officially confirmed by Rosstat! - and the level of income of the population, i.e. share of consumption costs this very population in the state’s net income! Essentially - talking about level of social justice in a state that positions itself as "everything for man"!
          ---------------------------------
          It should be distracted from the category “cost” invented by Marx (in fact - a fake, a state function, a means of controlling the movement of material resources and their distribution, one of the main tools / levers of power); which, incidentally, Stalin was well aware when he wrote / advised the Soviet textbook Political Economy! Why, in fact, Soviet economy and was so successful even under Khrushchev, and after the collapse of the Union and its institutions of government and industry.
          A product is an objective reality, and its value is a function of state power (or of a noble, princely, oligarch’s power - the owner of a monopoly ...) ...
          1. turbris
            turbris 6 December 2017 10: 23
            0
            Quote: CONTROL
            Why, in fact, the Soviet economy was so successful even under Khrushchev, and after the collapse of the Union and its institutions of state and industry management.

            That's really really "odd", who are you rubbing it all into?
            1. CONTROL
              CONTROL 6 December 2017 10: 26
              +3
              Quote: turbris
              Quote: CONTROL
              Why, in fact, the Soviet economy was so successful even under Khrushchev, and after the collapse of the Union and its institutions of state and industry management.

              That's really really "odd", who are you rubbing it all into?

              ... yes, right! ...
              For it is said: "Do not mark the beads before ... these ... well! ... so as not to be banned on the site!"; although - it’s like a drum ... "
          2. aybolyt678
            aybolyt678 6 December 2017 11: 23
            +2
            Quote: CONTROL
            A product is an objective reality, and its value is a function of state power (or of a noble, princely, oligarch’s power - the owner of a monopoly ...) ..

            Goods - a product of labor, intended for exchange. its value is the labor embodied in it. (Marx) What do you think, how many percent of Russian labor in the goods lying on the shelves ??? like yogurt? jar -imp. label imp. oil imp ,, Or cars assembled in Russia? from bridges, bodies and bumpers. No work.
            Capital is a condition for the effective use of Labor (Marx). Capitalism is a system under which conditions are created for the accumulation and growth of Capital — the means of production, skilled labor, etc. . We do not have Capitalism !!! Capitals run away. The function of the state is to create the conditions for the development of capitalism. Our state does not fulfill its function.
            1. CONTROL
              CONTROL 6 December 2017 14: 31
              +1
              Quote: aybolyt678
              Quote: CONTROL
              A product is an objective reality, and its value is a function of state power (or of a noble, princely, oligarch’s power - the owner of a monopoly ...) ..

              Goods - a product of labor, intended for exchange. its value is the labor embodied in it. (Marx) What do you think, how many percent of Russian labor in the goods lying on the shelves ??? like yogurt? jar -imp. label imp. oil imp ,, Or cars assembled in Russia? from bridges, bodies and bumpers. No work.
              Capital is a condition for the effective use of Labor (Marx). Capitalism is a system under which conditions are created for the accumulation and growth of Capital — the means of production, skilled labor, etc. . We do not have Capitalism !!! Capitals run away. The function of the state is to create the conditions for the development of capitalism. Our state does not fulfill its function.

              In! about the "capital" remembered by the way: https://www.planet-kob.ru/articles/6675 "Стоимость" Маркса".
    2. your1970
      your1970 6 December 2017 10: 09
      +2
      Quote: The same Lech
      It's time to realize that Russia's main and most valuable asset is not gas or oil, gold and platinum, but its people.


      Common truth what how to get the powers that be to develop invention, small business, grass-roots initiative ... after all, all this is suppressed by constantly changing game rules by the state ...
      Now the financial authorities of RUSSIA are concerned about the problem of withdrawing shadow salaries of ordinary citizens ... they would be taxed and people don’t want to do it voluntarily ... knowing how this will end ... and we live playing cat and mouse with power
      -Our inventors, alas, can only invent, there have always been problems with implementation. And there is no need for bad government / president / bureaucrats / oligarchs / blah blah.
      .. - NEVER there were no intruders, literate, skilled, able to do the invention is an industrial design.Neither under the kings, nor in the USSR, nor in the Russian Federation ....
      WE can invent - but introduce not organically capable. Radios, televisions, telephones, diesel locomotives and other, other other - from the section invented in Russia (in the 18-19-20-21 century) - "made there." And the rules of the game are changing all over the world constantly, all over the world it’s normal. We haven’t come up with anything masterpiece on the topic - how to torture harder than the inventor .. Or does someone think that someone gave B. Gates a couple of lyamas to realize the idea in the garage? Dali naturally - but later when there was a product / advertised / hooked / rated
      And ours can only moan - "if you have no analogs in the world - give the dough !!"


      Z.Y. The formula "you the cleverest or something ?? !! "they came up with alas - here and not even in the last (20th) century ...
      1. CONTROL
        CONTROL 6 December 2017 10: 30
        +3
        Quote: your1970
        Z.Y. The formula "you the cleverest or something ?? !! "they came up with alas - here and not even in the last (20th) century ...

        ... from recently heard (medical unit of the Veterans Hospital):
        “Don't make yourself smart, you're a doctor!”
        or - I heard before - (Ministry of Emergencies, firefighters):
        - Do not make a smart face, you are an officer!
  3. BLADFROST
    BLADFROST 5 December 2017 05: 28
    +7
    What a hell! Yes, for God's sake, let them live and live there! Holy place is not empty! We have enough smart and talented, successful compatriots in the homeland! What a lot of return examples! Moreover, there is a rise in all directions. But these groans about the second-hand leave with you!
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 5 December 2017 05: 33
      24
      Moreover, there is a rise in all directions.


      Yeah ... only in the military sectors and civilian directions dived into the Pacific ... like a Frigate with 19 satellites. what
      We will be glad to climb in all directions belay
    2. tasha
      tasha 5 December 2017 06: 17
      +4
      What a hell! Yes, for God's sake, let them live and live there! Holy place is not empty!

      Maybe so. I know a case when a full team of software developers left for Canada. As a result, the implementation of the system took place much later than possible.
    3. creak
      creak 5 December 2017 08: 58
      12
      Quote: BLADFROST
      Moreover, there is a rise in all directions.

      And our microchips are the largest good Truly, the slower the success, the louder the fanfare ...
      1. sxfRipper
        sxfRipper 5 December 2017 22: 11
        +1
        But the most convenient to carry - for every 8 legs, 2 handles.
      2. uskrabut
        uskrabut 6 December 2017 14: 14
        +1
        Quote: ranger
        And our microchips are the largest


        With three legs and two handles
    4. Greenwood
      Greenwood 5 December 2017 10: 11
      12
      Quote: BLADFROST
      We have enough smart and talented, successful compatriots
      How long...
      Quote: BLADFROST
      What a lot of return examples!
      Each such return example has been debating the media. And for every return 5-10 departures. I know a huge number of people who have moved to the USA and Canada, Spain, Germany, Japan, South Korea and Australia. Relatives, former classmates, acquaintances, colleagues. And if only one of them returned. More and more, the "gifted brothers" from Central Asia somehow arrive.
      Quote: BLADFROST
      Moreover, there is a rise in all directions.
      Dmitry Anatolyevich, are you this?
      1. Sotskiy
        Sotskiy 5 December 2017 14: 58
        +3
        Quote: Greenwood
        Quote: BLADFROST
        Moreover, there is a rise in all directions.
        Dmitry Anatolyevich, are you this?

        That's right, he told the truth. He does not specify who is climbing in all directions. And the fact that we are already fantasizing here, as they say - your problems.)))
      2. gm9019
        gm9019 5 December 2017 21: 38
        +3
        Quote: Greenwood
        I know a huge number of people who have moved to the USA and Canada, Spain, Germany, Japan, South Korea and Australia. Relatives, former classmates, acquaintances, colleagues.

        My most capable, most talented students are all over the hill ... But after all, over 2 thousand people passed through me in 45 years. It was a jubilee evening of the meeting - from where they just didn’t come and .. drove back. The most brilliant guy with a wonderful surname Ivanov works in the States. He says that he wanted to return 4 times, but "they made him an offer that is impossible to refuse", money. Who would have held onto specialists like that ... And then some buzovs, market-chicken, dogs, yes, they are held in high esteem. Darkness.
    5. AA17
      AA17 5 December 2017 11: 36
      13
      Dear, BLADFROST. "... What a lot of examples of return! ..." Maybe there are such examples. Only there are many other examples. My classmate graduated with honors, just smart. He has been working as a programmer in the USA for a long time. He took root. I bought a house, has three children, two were born in the USA. At meetings (the first - after 15 years) I was very surprised - how is it that if you work and you do not have your own home, several cars?
      P.S. But, we are not discouraged. We are waiting for help. Soon, children of officials and oligarchs will come to us from abroad, weighed down by knowledge gained in Europe, and also received cultural anti-Russian vaccinations. All hope is only on them. Here they will teach us how to work. Then, even more will go "... the rise in all directions ...."
      1. 82т11
        82т11 5 December 2017 19: 05
        0
        So why do you live here blow abroad) and you will have it all there too. Or you are stopped by examples of those who returned, so do not pay attention to these losers! They are definitely waiting for you !!!
        1. Greenwood
          Greenwood 5 December 2017 20: 56
          +2
          Quote: 82т11
          Or are you stopped by examples of those who returned
          Well, stop pretending to be stupid, well, not funny. To move over a hill you need money, usually quite large. Those. need to save. Plus you need some, but knowledge of the language, plus it would be nice to have at least some friends, acquaintances, in which case you can turn for help. In general, a lot of obstacles that not everyone is able to overcome.
          Quote: 82т11
          those who returned
          Such people can be counted on the fingers of one hand. I have never met such people in my life.
          Quote: 82т11
          They are definitely waiting for you !!!
          Specialists who are ready to work are really waiting.
        2. AA17
          AA17 6 December 2017 10: 22
          +2
          Dear, 82t11. Have you read my comment? (You did not understand the meaning of my comment. The BEST are leaving. He was BETTER than me. More ABLE, more TALENT. He couldn’t find a place in Russia. So you understand?) And where did I say, what do I want to go abroad? You unceremoniously wedged into someone else's dialogue. Essentially - what can you say? Finally. Do not tell me what to do, and I will not tell you where to go.
    6. Vasya Vassin
      Vasya Vassin 5 December 2017 17: 42
      +4
      Moreover, there is a rise in all directions.


      Are you overheated or just out of your mind?
  4. Alex66
    Alex66 5 December 2017 06: 47
    15
    As long as people like Medvedev rule the country, they will not allow the smart and talented side by side with this law of survival in a bureaucratic environment. So across the power vertical, i.e. talented road to power is closed. In business, it is not profitable for officials to have a successful business on their territory that does not depend on them.
    1. Victor N
      Victor N 5 December 2017 07: 33
      +3
      And what to do - to cry with you? It is necessary to help restore order together with the President, the ONF, the Public Chambers ..... The methods of PERSONAL participation in the arrangement of the country must be sought for. Yes, at least for the elections do not be lazy to go .....
      1. Alex66
        Alex66 5 December 2017 08: 03
        +6
        In the USSR there was such a “people's control” they went shopping, they checked whether they were hiding something with the canteens, but in fact a significant part was simply stocked with deficiency. Without changing the system of human education, not only literacy, but also laying the moral and volitional qualities, this cannot be solved, it is necessary to ban all elite education and only those who have received state education should be allowed to govern the country.
        1. uskrabut
          uskrabut 6 December 2017 15: 31
          0
          Quote: Alex66
          Without changing the system of human education, not only literacy, but also laying the moral and volitional qualities, this cannot be solved, it is necessary to ban all elite education and only those who have received state education should be allowed to govern the country.

          With a kind word and a gun you can achieve more than one good word (Don Carleone)
          It is necessary to shoot corrupt officials and thieves in power and business, mercilessly shoot. Then the crook will look for a quieter and safer place away from the government and big business, where everything is in sight. And introduce the confiscation of property for economic and state crimes, and not the return of the one for which the theft was proved.
      2. g1washntwn
        g1washntwn 5 December 2017 08: 21
        12
        Personal participation in what, and most importantly - when? In the article about promises about Moscow salaries of 90000 rubles, and look at the regions, there the population really has to work on two, or even three, jobs with part-time jobs between them (of which only half of the official workplace is official). It’s almost impossible to find a stable place of work - managers of the anti-personnel departments try their best (at the same time, telling tales to this staff about all sorts of corporate values, participation in the life of the company and other rainbow bubbles from the back of unicorns). Small business is in such a situation that, besides searching for a way out of the care of any "concerned bodies", it does nothing else, otherwise profitability will quickly go to such disadvantages that at least get enough gas in front of credit organizations. What is the growth of industry? If you look at the consumption of energy and energy resources, you can only see the recession, which cannot be attributed to Medvedev’s energy-saving bulbs. The rate of exhaustion of the regions only increased, and no subsidies and presidential programs can return finances to the regions.
        We need a regulated economy at the macro level, and not a wait-and-see policy of Harvard miscarriages, which are interested only in short-term profit.
      3. CONTROL
        CONTROL 5 December 2017 11: 05
        +4
        Quote: Victor N
        And what to do - to cry with you? It is necessary to help restore order together with the President, the ONF, the Public Chambers ..... The methods of PERSONAL participation in the arrangement of the country must be sought for. Yes, at least for the elections do not be lazy to go .....

        Well, yes, yes ...
        Just now, the parliamentary commission heard a report by Nabiullina on the work of the Central Bank for the "reporting period" ... Speeches of parliamentarians completely destroyed the Central Bank’s practices and programs "to combat inflation"; Elvira Sahipzadovna nodded her beautiful head to questions asked rudely and head-on, agreed with the speakers ... Consensus!
        But - at the end of the hearing - to the asked question "how do you intend to adjust the Central Bank's policy in connection with the criticism heard here and now?" this pretty lady gave a somewhat concise, but quite intelligible answer, the essence of which can be interpreted as follows: "And you all would go with your criticism! What you did - we will continue to do it! In order to strengthen the country's economy and improve the welfare of its population .. . "
        ---------------------
        ... our "financial sector" wanted to cheat on the parliament, the people, the president and all sorts of commissions from academics and practitioners-economists there!
        1. Sotskiy
          Sotskiy 5 December 2017 15: 07
          +6
          Quote: CONTROL
          But - at the end of the hearing - to the asked question "how do you intend to adjust the Central Bank's policy in connection with the criticism heard here and now?" this pretty lady gave a somewhat concise, but quite intelligible answer, the essence of which can be interpreted as follows: “And would you all go with your criticism! What you did, then we will do it in the future!

          From Katasonova:
          “The answer to the statement of the Prosecutor’s Office of the Russian Federation regarding the actions of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation came: The Central Bank of the Russian Federation is not in the jurisdiction of the legislation of the Russian Federation ...” Questions?)))
          1. CONTROL
            CONTROL 6 December 2017 13: 33
            +2
            Quote: Sovetskiy
            From Katasonova:
            “The answer to the statement of the Prosecutor’s Office of the Russian Federation regarding the actions of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation came: The Central Bank of the Russian Federation is not in the jurisdiction of the legislation of the Russian Federation ...” Questions?)))

            ... and the fall in inflation - with which the Central Bank heroically fights - to an adequate economist only speaks of a drop in the purchasing power of the population and the under-lending of entrepreneurs ...
            What really happens in the "financial sector"!
            --------------------------
            "Questions?)))

            so - the questions are darkness! and there’s nobody to ask them ...
            1. Sotskiy
              Sotskiy 6 December 2017 14: 11
              0
              Quote: CONTROL
              "Questions?)))
              so - the questions are darkness! and there’s nobody to ask them ...

              So this is the meaning of the current government: "I am not me, but there is already no money")
        2. creak
          creak 5 December 2017 16: 45
          +5
          Quote: CONTROL
          .chk wanted our "financial sector" to parliament, the people, the president

          Persons in the "financial sector" were not appointed by Obama, but by the President of the Russian Federation, who, incidentally, at a recent meeting with Nabiullina, noted that he was satisfied with the work of the Central Bank ...
    2. Greenwood
      Greenwood 5 December 2017 10: 17
      +4
      Quote: Alex66
      those. talented road to power is closed.
      There is still such a moment. Almost every major official or businessman has adult children with advanced British or Swiss education, who also need to be attached somewhere. Of course, for a position not lower than the director or deputy director of the enterprise.
    3. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 5 December 2017 23: 47
      +2
      Quote: Alex66
      they will not allow smart and talented people next to them - this is the law of survival in a bureaucratic environment.

      Already more than three hundred years, as legalized, yeah.
  5. Nix1986
    Nix1986 5 December 2017 07: 05
    19
    To keep the pipe working, big brains are not needed, you need a small herd of hard workers, who should be happy with a pack of dumplings in the evening and beer. Health care, pensions, this is also not necessary. And we still need good protection for this entire enterprise. This is all we see.
  6. Victor N
    Victor N 5 December 2017 07: 22
    +8
    I doubt very much that there are many RUSSIANS among emigrants.
    And they are fleeing not from high taxes, but from the fact that Russia is not their homeland: they were strangers here - they were not used to being strangers there.
    And why so - ?????????????
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 5 December 2017 10: 05
      +4
      Quote: Victor N
      were strangers here - don't get used to being strangers there.
      The sad thing is that being a stranger there is much easier than in Russia. They at least get paid there normally.
    2. 82т11
      82т11 5 December 2017 19: 11
      0
      Yes, surely 99% of these runners are officials and big business who, through citizenship and the Cyprus offshore zone, evade taxes and launder stolen money. And the author paints them almost like the best people of Russia)
      1. Greenwood
        Greenwood 5 December 2017 20: 30
        +3
        Quote: 82т11
        Yes, probably 99% of these runners are officials and big business
        Yeah, 50000 officials and big business people. wassat
  7. antivirus
    antivirus 5 December 2017 08: 13
    +3
    And this is at a distance of 2300 kilometers from Russia.
    TO SOCHI -1100 KM FROM CYPRUS.
    HOMELAND WAS NOT GREAT ??? MASCWABAD ONLY KNOWED? - THIS IS 2300 KM TO CYPRUS
    1. Maverick78
      Maverick78 5 December 2017 12: 20
      0
      Antivirus, with the distortion of the capital, everything is just beginning ... local devils also love to persuade Moscow. The city has nothing to do with it.
  8. parusnik
    parusnik 5 December 2017 08: 18
    +7
    A little more, and in every Russian family, apparently, the toilets will be from precious metals, and the average salary in Moscow is actually more than 90 rubles.
    ... We are waiting for mass cuts at our enterprise, from Kaliningrad to Vladivostok .. The CA is not going to cut itself in Moscow ... but the branches and departments will be cleansed ... At the end of December we are waiting for an order ... A gift for New Year from Santa Claus ..
  9. aybolyt678
    aybolyt678 5 December 2017 08: 34
    +2
    you can criticize the government a lot, or you can try to make life better yourself: - buy Russian. Only purely Russian and not Assembly. This is harder than leading the country, in my experience.
    1. andrej-shironov
      andrej-shironov 5 December 2017 08: 56
      +4
      laughing Can you name something purely Russian except agricultural products that would be in demand?
      1. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 5 December 2017 09: 59
        +1
        camouflage items, Lada Vesta, Largus, socks recently bought ...
        1. Greenwood
          Greenwood 5 December 2017 11: 00
          +6
          Quote: aybolyt678
          Only purely Russian

          Quote: aybolyt678
          Lada Vesta
          Three times haha.

          Quote: aybolyt678
          socks recently bought
          We have more and more socks from Uzbekistan or in general Turkish ones.
        2. CONTROL
          CONTROL 5 December 2017 11: 09
          +8
          Quote: aybolyt678
          camouflage items, Lada Vesta, Largus, socks recently bought ...

          "Largus" - at the "Renault", if not in the know ...
          Camouflage - shoes from the "cordura" (such a Kevlar ...) in Spain are produced or "close abroad" (Tajiks and Turkmen, Kyrgyzstan more ...)
          Socks - thanks to Old Man Alexander Rygorich ...
        3. andrej-shironov
          andrej-shironov 5 December 2017 13: 41
          +2
          belay Lada Vesta and Largus? Most camouflage fabrics are made in China, socks are the same.
    2. Herculesic
      Herculesic 5 December 2017 08: 56
      +6
      Yes, I will gladly buy purely Russian! Only here is the problem - there is not much of this in the country! Every year, less and less Russian goods become !!!
    3. Greenwood
      Greenwood 5 December 2017 10: 07
      14
      I went to the agricultural store yesterday. I looked at hammers, axes, saws, nails, self-tapping screws, clamps, etc. Everywhere the inscription "Made in China." Funny huh? Nails and those from China are being driven.
      1. Herculesic
        Herculesic 5 December 2017 10: 46
        12
        This is no longer ridiculous, it is scary that our authorities refused to revive the production of domestic consumer goods for the sake of cheaper and lower-quality Chinese. We bury our production. ...
        1. aybolyt678
          aybolyt678 5 December 2017 13: 33
          +1
          Quote: Herkulesich
          We bury our production. .

          That's exactly why I try to ask when buying: -whose is this, who produces it?
        2. CONTROL
          CONTROL 6 December 2017 13: 24
          +1
          Quote: Herkulesich
          This is no longer ridiculous, it is scary that our authorities refused to revive the production of domestic consumer goods for the sake of cheaper and lower-quality Chinese. We bury our production. ...

          Quite a long time I came across this: cement from China! brand / class - 400; and no more!!!
          Cements made from our raw materials (clay and loam, aluminosilicates) - up to 800-90-1000! Yes, and over time they gain strength ... And those made from Chinese loesses (also a type of clay / aluminosilicate, but the composition is slightly different ...) - ceiling: 400, and over time they do not gain ...
          Here we have the mass production of monolithic and precast reinforced concrete and its use in construction - then China ...
          ... interesting, the Kerch bridge - what concrete are there? ...
      2. free
        free 5 December 2017 16: 38
        +2
        Quote: Greenwood
        I went to the agricultural store yesterday. I looked at hammers, axes, saws, nails, self-tapping screws, clamps, etc. Everywhere the inscription "Made in China." Funny huh? Nails and those from China are being driven.

        Yes, really stop it! We have an upsurge in all directions a, you with your criticism! laughing
        1. Vasya Vassin
          Vasya Vassin 5 December 2017 17: 47
          +2
          There is no lift. Long gone, even with pills ...
        2. Greenwood
          Greenwood 5 December 2017 18: 52
          +2
          Yes, I'm generally an agent of the State Department, the current came from the consulate with a new training manual and grant.
    4. Overlock
      Overlock 5 December 2017 22: 56
      +1
      name at least one product purely Russian
      1. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 6 December 2017 00: 02
        +4
        Quote: Overlock
        the product is purely Russian

        Recently I saw bast shoes on a tray. The real ones. Lyk fought near Novgorod, wove there. Here. fellow Well, except for jokes, perhaps, the Arefino brand tool (Nizhny Novgorod) immediately comes to mind. The tool is strong, kondovy, somewhere even nostalgic. crying
  10. Herculesic
    Herculesic 5 December 2017 08: 54
    +3
    Every word is true, alas, but the people are not the main value of our power!
    1. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 5 December 2017 13: 34
      +1
      power is as independent as possible from the problems of the people. And you won’t do anything about it.
  11. ando_bor
    ando_bor 5 December 2017 10: 55
    0
    Yes, it turns out that the liberals flee to Cyprus from a liberal experiment, and there they hide from themselves.
    There was no Russian in Cyprus without a liberal experiment, and there would be no stopping this experiment, and the whole logic of the article collapses.
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 5 December 2017 11: 13
      +4
      Quote: ando_bor
      inconsistency is obtained
      You have a disagreement.
      Quote: ando_bor
      from a liberal experiment, liberals flee to Cyprus
      Ordinary people who want to live with dignity flee to Cyprus. As well as in other countries. And the liberals in our country are pretty good at the government. Another issue is that personal capital and assets are transferred to Cyprus thanks to the transparent Cyprus tax law. But this is another story and does not apply to immigration from the country of specialists.
      1. ando_bor
        ando_bor 5 December 2017 11: 34
        +1
        Quote: Greenwood
        Ordinary people are fleeing to Cyprus

        No need to tell tales. “Capital is fleeing to Cyprus, and ordinary people from Russia are fleeing there to serve it.”
        1. Greenwood
          Greenwood 5 December 2017 12: 12
          +6
          Quote: ando_bor
          and ordinary people from Russia run there to serve him.
          Stop thinking with patterns. Ordinary people run to where they can fully realize themselves and earn a decent living, providing for their families. And whether it is Cyprus, or London, or Miami - it does not matter.
          1. aybolyt678
            aybolyt678 5 December 2017 18: 04
            +2
            run to where there are conditions for the preservation and multiplication of Capital. Education is also capital. Where in our country can education be invested ?? Everywhere managers are needed, and I'm a virologist sad
        2. Overlock
          Overlock 5 December 2017 22: 57
          +3
          I have one family left to work in Cyprus. Work remotely. Satisfied
  12. Dimmih
    Dimmih 5 December 2017 11: 04
    +3
    Quote: BLADFROST
    What a hell! Yes, for God's sake, let them live and live there! Holy place is not empty! We have enough smart and talented, successful compatriots in the homeland! What a lot of return examples! Moreover, there is a rise in all directions. But these groans about the second-hand leave with you!

    In our mournful city, I can say, an upsurge in the processing industry: they are sowing buckwheat, but it is now in price. And the like, but heavy industry .... The chemical plant was sawn into metal, there were three furniture factories, now trade centers selling high-quality goods from China, the boiler plant is now a nano-boiler. Gasoline is getting more expensive, the tram park is bankrupt.
  13. prior
    prior 5 December 2017 11: 28
    +4
    But was the task of preserving human potential set?
    Only one prospect, living in Russia on a Russian pension, will force you to pack your bags.
  14. Maalkavianin
    Maalkavianin 5 December 2017 12: 01
    +2
    They are right to leave. Nothing to do here. Why live in poverty if there are places where you can get along well.
  15. midshipman
    midshipman 5 December 2017 14: 09
    +7
    And today is Stalin Constitution Day! Forgot? I have the honor.
    1. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 5 December 2017 21: 31
      0
      and December 9, or the 21st birthday of Comrade Stalin .. I will drink both 9 and 21 for a blessed memory. For the new year I will not
  16. 82т11
    82т11 5 December 2017 19: 20
    +1
    It’s interesting to flee abroad, leaving their parents and the land in which the graves of their ancestors lie.
    Instead of putting things in order in their country and enforcing laws, they abandon their homeland, but how can officials take a bribe and no one puts a tail like that to smart people.
    How to call such people certainly not Russian for sure! The Russians remained in Russia and are engaged in its restoration after losing in the Cold War!
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 5 December 2017 20: 41
      +6
      Quote: 82т11
      It’s interesting to run abroad throwing their parents
      Parents are then transported to themselves, too. It's not a problem.
      Quote: 82т11
      the ground in which the graves of their ancestors lie
      We need to live in the future, not the past. If everyone reasoned only about the graves of their ancestors, there would be no European settlement of the American continent or Russian Siberian lands.
      Quote: 82т11
      clean up your country and enforce laws
      How? Well, let's say I'm a simple citizen of Russia. I work in the civil service. Those. I get a completely white salary, which is taxed by the state. I do not violate laws; I don’t spit under my feet, I don’t throw cigarette butts on the ground, I don’t break benches. lol Question: how should I put things in order in the country and how to achieve the implementation of laws? Run around the courts, sue everyone, scribble endless complaints and denunciations ?! And I need it, to spend my time, nerves and money on what the state should provide me by default ?! And if it can’t and doesn’t want to do this, what for me such a state ...
      Quote: 82т11
      How to call such people certainly not Russian for sure!
      You redirect your indignation to the government. Suddenly imbued with the righteousness of your anger.
      Quote: 82т11
      The Russians remained in Russia and are engaged in its restoration after losing in the Cold War!
      Go ahead, do it. Although it is not clear what you are recovering there. Rather, spend your life heroically confronting the system.
  17. eleronn
    eleronn 5 December 2017 21: 10
    +4
    Quote: Greenwood
    Quote: 82т11
    It’s interesting to run abroad throwing their parents
    Parents are then transported to themselves, too. It's not a problem.
    Quote: 82т11
    the ground in which the graves of their ancestors lie
    We need to live in the future, not the past. If everyone reasoned only about the graves of their ancestors, there would be no European settlement of the American continent or Russian Siberian lands.
    Quote: 82т11
    clean up your country and enforce laws
    How? Well, let's say I'm a simple citizen of Russia. I work in the civil service. Those. I get a completely white salary, which is taxed by the state. I do not violate laws; I don’t spit under my feet, I don’t throw cigarette butts on the ground, I don’t break benches. lol Question: how should I put things in order in the country and how to achieve the implementation of laws? Run around the courts, sue everyone, scribble endless complaints and denunciations ?! And I need it, to spend my time, nerves and money on what the state should provide me by default ?! And if it can’t and doesn’t want to do this, what for me such a state ...
    Quote: 82т11
    How to call such people certainly not Russian for sure!
    You redirect your indignation to the government. Suddenly imbued with the righteousness of your anger.
    Quote: 82т11
    The Russians remained in Russia and are engaged in its restoration after losing in the Cold War!
    Go ahead, do it. Although it is not clear what you are recovering there. Rather, spend your life heroically confronting the system.

    Correctly! So live! Vote for Putin (respectively, for Medvedev, Sechin, Miller and Chubais), do not rock the boat, tighten your belt and, in general, pretend to be a rag and do not shine. Putin-the creation of Yeltsin and he will not be another!
  18. turbris
    turbris 5 December 2017 22: 49
    0
    I really do not like the word "human capital", it sounds somehow very dry and papery in the speeches of officials, the people are somehow closer. Well, on the topic of the article, then at all times the Russians left to live abroad, under Tsarist Russia, under the Soviet Union with difficulty, but still left, under modern Russia too. And this does not always happen because Russia is bad and not attractive. Business, science, culture and much more, makes people travel, work and live in different countries. It all depends on development opportunities, living conditions and other factors. Of course, so far in Russia there are not enough grants granted to young scientists and businessmen for development, but the process is underway, the legislation is being improved, so I do not think that we have already lost everything like that.
  19. Overlock
    Overlock 5 December 2017 23: 00
    +2
    Quote: 82т11
    Instead of putting things in order in their country and enforcing laws, they abandon their homeland, but how can officials take a bribe and no one puts a tail like that to smart people.

    -What are the results of the fight against corruption from those whom the state authorized to do this?
    - Are you against the domestic GDP policy? After all, everything suits him, but you are unhappy. Do you propose to fight with Putin?
  20. Antares
    Antares 5 December 2017 23: 00
    +2
    In Cyprus, judging by the description
    Pavel Muntean - (a Russian animated film actor, producer and screenwriter. He is one of the founders of Toonbox studio and the author of the sensational idea of ​​Mr. Freeman. In the spring of 2014, Muntean moved Toonbox to Cyprus, about which he told the American publication Bloomberg for an article on brain drain from Russia )
    not very simple. It is very difficult for a citizen of Ukraine or the Russian Federation to get a job. There is a whole scheme of work of such citizens through an EU company or created through the Virgin Islands themselves.
    So the starting capital for IT people (namely, such Russians and Ukrainians live in Cyprus) is necessary.
    Another atishnik writes the following
    Moreover, in Cyprus, the time difference with Moscow in the winter is one hour, and in the summer it is completely absent, and taxes are lower than in Russia or other European countries, Shinkarenko says. The tax burden on the payroll fund — pension and social contributions, income tax deducted from individuals, etc., is about 45% in Russia, about 70% in Latvia, and about 20% in Cyprus, says he

    third
    Sergei Orlovsky arrives at a meeting in a cafe on a bicycle. “After Cyprus, I can no longer eat Greek salad and fish in Moscow,” he shares his feelings from a recent trip to Russia. “Maybe I'm just tired of Moscow, but I like Limassol.”

    In Russia, in 2016, several laws were passed that created restrictions for IT businesses: foreign IT companies were obliged to pay VAT (“Google tax”), Internet companies should decrypt traffic at the request of the FSB and store user data (“Spring package”) , and news aggregators should check the information they disseminate and, at the request of Roskomnadzor, block resources. “When you tighten the nuts, you can endure for a long time, but sooner or later the thread breaks and you have to make more radical decisions,” Orlovsky shrugs.
    What can be said for the Atishniki group. Russians and Ukrainians living and working in Cyprus. First of all, many do not part with citizenship. Get a residence permit. However, living and working conditions at home are very criticized.
    We do not grab them freedom and security, as well as wages.
    IT people from the Russian Federation and Ukraine are quite mobile. However, our governments specifically squeeze out potentially dangerous people for the drive system, mobile, brainy, ready to go into business, most importantly not in the Russian Federation (Ukraine). This is despite the fact that IT people only need the Internet! And they can work at home! And receive payment in currency (ensuring its inflow into the country)
    In general, the example of Cyprus is an example of tightening the screws in our countries — which provoked the departure of people and entire firms + studios.