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Practical shooting pendulum

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Thoughts aloud sambists and systems analyst.

To make it difficult for him to aim, I continuously “rocked the pendulum”: I was dancing to the left
shoulder forward, jerking, moving the body from side to side and all the time moving on its own, something similar, only simpler, the boxer does in the ring.
(c) V.O. Bogomolov. "In August 44"


The opinion of the sambist will be like that. What is demonstrated in the movement of an arrow of practical shooting is at odds from the point of view of use in a real combat situation.

Combat training has existed since human beings began to gather in organized, guided groups with the goal of obtaining food, robbing less organized or weaker relatives, or vice versa, protecting them from stronger ones. With the development of scientific and technological progress and the emergence of new tools, combat training began to be divided into disciplines, so there were wrestling and boxing, fencing, horse control or a tank.

Over time, regular classes and practicing techniques were separated into a separate system, which was called the sport. Unlike combat, it has completely different goals - physical education, health, entertainment, the pursuit of excellence, business. Accordingly, other external and internal relations and relationships. Since sport came out of utilitarian practice and turned into an object of mass culture, it lost some of its applied qualities and acquired other, giving entertainment and aesthetics.
For example, fights in martial arts break and conduct training and competitions in weight categories of athletes. Needless to say, in life you don’t have to choose the weight category of the opponent who attacked you. A similar example can be given from any sport. For example, the Weaver stance from the rifle training is needed as a kiba dacha karate stance in a street fight. Therefore, it is possible to take from an athletic training only elements of an applied purpose and supplement them with that specificity that is not in sports, but can occur in life.

Returning to the main topic - the movement during the shooting. In the epigraph I gave a literary description of the “pendulum” from the work of V. Bogomolov. Pay attention to the clarification - “something similar, only simpler, is made by a boxer in the ring.” Recall the famous expression of Mohammed Ali - "to flutter like a butterfly, sting like a bee." The pendulum is the ability of a fighter to move in space during a fight, and not the ability to hit a target from weapons. First of all, it is developed in mobile sports, where it is necessary to maintain balance in unexpected situations - in boxing, wrestling and even in football. If you start practicing the skills of the "pendulum" immediately with a gun in the firing position, then nothing happens.

If you start moving from a static stance, in response to an external threat, you will need a loss of energy to disperse, overcome the inertia of the body, lose time. In the state of the pendulum, a reflex is produced - the body's reaction to the external environment, which may not be a threat, but the signal to change the rack is already gone. An experienced goalkeeper on the swing of the opponent's stick can determine to which corner of the goal the puck will fly, and only the more experienced will determine what will now be the swing and will start moving to the right direction. Fighting and boxing is a rivalry between two complexes of reflexes. The brain does not have time to handle the changing situation, but on a barely noticeable backswing or even on the voltage of a certain group of muscles of an opponent, the body of a trained athlete is already beginning his counterplay on avoiding a blow or reception, and in the highest masters of a counterstrike or reception. The development of such tactics superbly staged in Sambo, wrestling and boxing. Quite similarly, the body of a trained fighter should work with fire contact using cold weapons or firearms. The hero of the novel Bogomolov Tamantsov perfectly knows this art. At the expense of the pendulum, he avoids shots from a pistol, reflexively determining the moment and direction of the shot.


The browning trunk followed my movements again - from right to left and
back and I felt I knew that in the next second it would come again
shot.


In addition to perfect physical training in the pendulum, an important role is played by the analytical component. An experienced fighter or athlete is constantly in creative search. Mentally, he works out various techniques that may occur in a given situation. For example, moving along the street, he evaluates the men he meets and, possibly, women, for an unexpected attack from their side and a choice of countermeasures from his own. Here you need to properly assess the weight, build, support leg, he is left-handed or right-handed, and even a mental portrait of a possible opponent.

Evasion from danger, a mortal blow, a throw, and a throw can also be fatal, a shot from a weapon, a shot or cut with a knife - this is all an apotheosis of the fight, which can be preceded by a variety of situations.
It should be clearly understood that the basis of combat training is the pendulum - reflex possession of the body in various life situations, the final of which should be the physical neutralization of the enemy, including the physical destruction of any weapon from a fist or bullet to a porcelain plate (according to Pikul), and not just the ability to shoot at Macedonian .

As already mentioned, in practical shooting the target does not shoot an athlete. He is fully focused on speeding targets. And what is primary in the fire contact, which is worked out in combat training? This is a departure from the oncoming fire line. It is necessary to determine the danger, its appearance and direction, to perform a deviating maneuver while simultaneously exposing a weapon and striking the enemy. Execution of an avoidance or blocking maneuver is one of the main conditions in combat training, but this reduces the rate of fire, which is central to shooting sports, that is, we have a systemic contradiction.


Let's look at what causes the cognitive dissonance of a sambist when he sees the movement of practicing athletes during shooting. First, some wrestling physics - the body falls if the projection of the center of gravity extends beyond the support area of ​​the body. The task of an athlete is to maintain the optimal combination of a larger footprint with minimum energy expenditure with maximum mobility. “Don't cross your legs!” Was the first advice I received. when he first entered the carpet and the last one who gave himself leaving the carpet after twenty years, dropping an opponent with a weight of 140 kg with his own 72. All movements in the pendulum only step pitch! At competitions in practical shooting, one can often observe the following picture:



On smooth sports fields, it can and does help to conduct targeted high-speed fire at targets without worrying about what is under your feet. But life slips there knots and pebbles at the wrong time, this is its specificity. Even a child can drop an opponent with crossed legs. A sambist will not suffer, as insurance in the fall is the first thing he studies on the carpet, but an inexperienced athlete can break his neck, since both hands are holding the gun and IPSC does not explain how to act in this case.

Let me give you another example. Going to the ground floor, or taking a position for shooting prone. Two approaches are recommended - kneeling or resting on a free hand, followed by tossing the loin with straightening the legs.



Now compare it with the Soviet approach. The fighter takes a prone position, taking a step forward and slightly to the side. Such a movement is energetically less expensive than throwing the body into the air, and shifting the body to the side reduces the likelihood of the enemy hitting, that is, an evasive maneuver is performed at the same time.

Practical shooting pendulum



Let's remember reflexes. Suppose a fighter is threatened from the side to the left. Turning to the ground with a step forward to the side with his right foot (or retreating back with his left), he has the opportunity to turn to the side of the threat. The task in combat training is to develop a reflex skill of lowering to the ground with a step of the foot opposite to the threat with simultaneous dovorotom corps in her direction.

Of course, crossing the legs or moving to the ground floor is not limited. Errors from the point of view of the pendulum are made by the practice arrows during direct movements, turns, turns, and change of stores. The location of the holster and manipulation of the weapon when removing from it, and even the simple holding of the weapon is not always optimal for a combat maneuverable duel. There are questions about weapons and targets. For example, a swinging target is easy to read in the phase of maximum deviation, when its speed is minimal, but I did not see something suddenly appearing on targets.

The systematic nature of combat training lies in the fact that the disciplines studied must complement each other. Contradictions here are unacceptable, because their result will be the loss of the most valuable that a person has.
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  1. ImPerts
    ImPerts 9 December 2017 07: 46
    +5
    There was a feeling of understatement.
    To be continued?
    1. Chichikov
      Chichikov 9 December 2017 08: 40
      +4
      I, too, did not understand the goal, - "the first, introductory lesson." And why is the opinion of a sambo wrestler like an athlete? Then a hand-to-hand fighter, with good strike tactics, can object - why should I bring the fight to the ground, am I not on the carpet, in the gym?
      1. ImPerts
        ImPerts 9 December 2017 08: 46
        12
        laughing
        To engage in hand-to-hand combat, a special forces soldier must pro @ (lose) on the battlefield: an automatic machine, a gun, a knife, a waist belt, a shoulder blade, body armor, and a helmet. Find a flat area on which not a single stone or stick is lying. Find on it the same race @ (slob). And only after that, engage in hand-to-hand combat.
        1. Mik13
          Mik13 9 December 2017 10: 02
          17
          Quote: ImPerts
          laughing
          To engage in hand-to-hand combat, a special forces soldier must pro @ (lose) on the battlefield: an automatic machine, a gun, a knife, a waist belt, a shoulder blade, body armor, and a helmet. Find a flat area on which not a single stone or stick is lying. Find on it the same race @ (slob). And only after that, engage in hand-to-hand combat.
          Someone drags this heartbreaking joke of humor into comments after each article about hand-to-hand combat.
          For starters, hand-to-hand combat is not a bare-hand fight on a level ground. The most commonplace situation is a sudden battle, for example, when cleaning up a residential building (strong point, checkpoint, etc.). A soldier suddenly collides with an adversary and discovers that for some reason his machine gun is not firing. And what should he do? And what he will do in this situation is hand-to-hand combat (if, of course, he doesn’t decide to heroically die for his homeland, so that the divan spetsnaz would justify his chronic weakness). And with what he will do it - with a bayonet, butt, spade, stone, belt or bare hands - this is a matter of choosing a fighter in a particular situation and his skills. And in order for the fighter to have these skills, he must be trained.
          And the author of this joke, which you deigned to quote, must be kicked throughout the body until the full enlightenment of consciousness ...
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 9 December 2017 10: 55
            +8
            Quote: Mik13
            A soldier suddenly collides with an adversary and discovers that for some reason his machine gun is not firing.

            There is a more vital situation. Indoors, or when cleaning trenches. Capture weapons. And for its use it is necessary to at least free yourself from capture and break the distance. And without enough preparation in the field of melee, it is very difficult. Especially if the opponent has such skills

            Quote: Mik13
            And the author of this joke, which you deigned to quote, must be kicked throughout the body until the full enlightenment of consciousness ...

            I absolutely agree.
          2. Vard
            Vard 9 December 2017 17: 51
            0
            It’s necessary to hit ... on the head ... if the machine gun or something else from which they shoot fails ... Since it is not a fact ... that the same machine (see above) does not shoot the same machine ...
          3. Mikhail3
            Mikhail3 10 December 2017 10: 35
            +5
            Quote: Mik13
            And the author of this joke, which you deigned to quote, must be kicked throughout the body until the full enlightenment of consciousness ...

            I fully join. Only now you too understand the role of melee too narrowly. Like an athlete. This is a sporting approach - the clean and "correct" performance of individual exercises. Individual. Exercises. Do you understand?
            Fighting is not doing exercises, albeit arbitrarily clean. Pity takes a look at the clogged hands and the movements of fighters holding weapons with the “right grip” and moving as they were trained under this approach. Death brings them their "right" grip ...
            Fight is the highest expression of a static-dynamic model of human movement. The winner is one who moves more freely and makes movements more correctly, that is, faster and more accurately than his opponents. In this case we are talking about all the movements. Completely about everything, and the movements of weapons, equipment, support, the enemy ...
            Americans all think they need more information. That's about it. And then they will CORRECTLY ACTION. Burdock. There is simply no time to collect and process information in battle. But you can learn ... Damn. Perhaps a good chat.
      2. Lopatov
        Lopatov 9 December 2017 10: 50
        +2
        Quote: Chichikov
        And why is the opinion of a sambo wrestler like an athlete?

        Because a sambo athlete and a sambo fighter are two different things. Well, like a musketeer and a foil athlete.
        The author initially indicates that he will evaluate the sport from the perspective of an athlete.
        1. groks
          groks 9 December 2017 14: 00
          +1
          But it should be noted that a sambo athlete is closer to life than a classic or freestyle. This sport is free from many conventions.
    2. bunta
      9 December 2017 14: 12
      +2
      There was a feeling of understatement.


      Here is an article with bills. Full text on the website of the magazine "Kalashnikov".
  2. Same lech
    Same lech 9 December 2017 08: 10
    +2
    A good article and the right one ... but all the same, you will not foresee everything in life.
    Here is a typical example from my NOVOSIBIRSK ....
    A tipsy man was looking for a stash-bookmark with a drug near an apartment building in the Dzerzhinsky district of Novosibirsk. A local resident made a remark to him, in response to which the addict inflicted two rapier blows to his chest. The victim died from his injuries.

    Where is our native police with her informers what
    In my opinion, you just need to avoid situations in which you have to apply the once acquired skills ... although in war, as in war, there is no choice ... you want to live, know how to spin.
    1. ImPerts
      ImPerts 9 December 2017 08: 48
      +1
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      ... stabbed him in the chest with two rapiers

      Sorted from Dumas?
      How did he stagger around the city with rapier?
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 9 December 2017 09: 30
        0
        Sorted from Dumas?
        How did he stagger around the city with rapier?

        Arrived by car with a friend ...
        It turned out that the owner of the car was asked to fix it by one of the relatives who is engaged in fencing. When the fight began, the suspect remembered the sword and armed himself with it.



        I also thought ... well, you have to die like that from a rapier ... in your own yard ... from the hand of a drug addict ...
        what it should be very lucky ... would have called better the police would have stayed alive.
        1. bistrov.
          bistrov. 9 December 2017 10: 12
          +1
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          who is engaged in fencing. TO

          This is where we are engaged in "fencing" combat rapiers? As far as we know, sports foil is stylized and has a blunt finish. It is quite problematic for her to pierce a person, and the foil is mainly intended for chopping blows and, to a lesser extent, for stabbing, since it is an evolutionary development of the sword. Subsequently, she, in general, was replaced by a sword.
          1. Mika_blin
            Mika_blin 9 December 2017 11: 22
            +3
            Quote: bistrov.
            asked the car owner mend her one of relatives

            There is no doubt what kind of breakdown was. So no wonder. I remember we had a case in school when two gouging began to fencing broken sports sabers found in the back room of the physical education officer. One got very well in the thigh, well, at least everyone immediately realized that it was bad, and they managed to stop the blood. At the tip of the rapier, the effort concentrates evil, and with proper dope, it pricks it mentally, not even sharpened, if the safety bump is screwed.
          2. Skarpzd
            Skarpzd 9 December 2017 12: 27
            +2
            Yes, it seems like the opposite. rapier - piercing, piercing and cutting sword.
            1. Victor_B
              Victor_B 9 December 2017 22: 03
              +1
              If my memory serves me (he lived in the same room with the CCM fencing and held more than one sword in his hands), the sword and especially the rapier are piercing (the rapier is only piercing), but chopping it is an espadron or a saber.
              In competitions, the rapier and the epee fix an injection electrically, while an impact is not allowed, touch with a blade = fine (not at the end of the button).
              The saber competition is judged “manually” by the EMNIP at once by 7 judges and all strikes and injections are recorded.
  3. Strashila
    Strashila 9 December 2017 08: 19
    0
    Practice and experience ... the foundation of everything, with further investigation on why.
  4. alex-cn
    alex-cn 9 December 2017 09: 34
    +2
    I agree with the author that in any fight, at close range, starting from a hand-to-hand fight and ending with a shootout at a pistol distance, a person who perfectly knows his body and movement has an overwhelming advantage. Even in everyday life, I envy those who are engaged in Asian arts. It seems to me that they have an understanding of “where and in what position” any part of the body is at any moment developed most strongly.
    1. groks
      groks 9 December 2017 14: 10
      +3
      In a not quite Asian SAMBO, it’s still worse with understanding. Calculating a hit is easier than a throw. Perform a throw, hiding behind the body of the thrower, from other possible opponents. Remain at the same time in a rack and not lose control of others.
      1. alex-cn
        alex-cn 9 December 2017 15: 50
        0
        it’s a little difficult for me to explain ... it's just my personal opinion, sambo - it also includes elements of some martial arts. but I don’t know combat sambo. But I saw a certain mood or condition that goes into martial arts, and this state is very interesting to me.
        1. groks
          groks 9 December 2017 16: 32
          +2
          It is believed that these Asian techniques are good for training, but in real life they work poorly. And SAMBO, in the warhead, is extremely practical, practical even than the synthetic and fashionable Krav-Maga now. No need to enter the satori and then do something acrobatic, you just need to complete the sporting technique.
          1. alex-cn
            alex-cn 9 December 2017 17: 50
            0
            This is not a satori ... but full self-control is important in order to sift out the unnecessary on the machine, but clearly isolate the main thing. something like here ... "incredible FSB special forces training" (video)
            1. groks
              groks 9 December 2017 19: 04
              0
              I watched this video. There already in the third comment maliciously described inconsistencies.
              However, there is such a film, rather strange "People without a shadow." There A. Lavrov shows disarmament. Consistently increasing the threat, saying that when it increases, a trained person shows the best results. So, if in this ... exercise it’s wrong to block, there will be a bullet in the stomach or chest. And all this is so casual and calm.
  5. Skay
    Skay 9 December 2017 09: 38
    +2
    Regarding the cognitive dissonance of a sambo wrestler. Physical contact and fire contact are two different things.
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 9 December 2017 10: 56
      +2
      Quote: Skay
      Physical contact and fire contact are two different things.

      Very controversial.
  6. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 9 December 2017 10: 55
    +4
    The author ... "practical shooting" is the practice of hunting for an unarmed fugitive. And it is completely logical.
    If you start to practice the skills of the "pendulum" immediately with a gun in a firing position, then nothing will work.
    I stopped training in a jacket and light pants when I realized that many things interfere with me ... a watch on my hand. Therefore, I began to dress properly, put on heavy boots, took something in my hands ... Eh, where are those long (seemingly) forgotten times? You scattered the old.
    1. CTABEP
      CTABEP 12 December 2017 17: 29
      0
      "Practical shooting" is a sport. Just like boxing, for example. But both this and that in reality will help you much more than the lack of practical training. At the same time, practical shooting is often much closer to reality than army shooting systems.
  7. Lock36
    Lock36 9 December 2017 12: 29
    +2
    Let's think about reflexes.

    Let's not give! (c) And let us recall the terminology - probably, the author means "skill", not "reflex".
    Do not write articles publicly without owning the subject
  8. Young_Communist
    Young_Communist 9 December 2017 13: 04
    +8
    Sambo Opinion

    about practical shooting


    We are waiting for the opinion of dancers about atomic physics, the opinion of sellers of mobile phones on the ozone layer, and the opinion of combine operators on Linux.
    1. ImPerts
      ImPerts 10 December 2017 09: 41
      0
      Then I was criticized for the joke, I will quote, they say that Mitterrand is in the hearts ...
      It’s a pity that everyone who knows how to manage the state already works as taxi drivers or hairdressers.
  9. kunstkammer
    kunstkammer 9 December 2017 13: 14
    +3
    put the article plus for an interesting topic ... but
    suddenly appearing targets, I did not see something

    as far as I know, it is on the "suddenly appearing targets" that the standards for combat shooting at the firing ranges are worked out: a separate figure, a machine gun, etc. Suddenly appear and after a while fall .. It was in the Soviet army. Or is it already gone?
    1. Glory1974
      Glory1974 9 December 2017 14: 14
      0
      Suddenly appear and after a while fall .. It was in the Soviet army. Or is it already gone?

      so it is now. 1 training exercise from AK for example: 2 chest figures, appear 2 times in 10 seconds.
    2. BMP-2
      BMP-2 9 December 2017 18: 49
      +1
      Of course, there are many types of shooting where the target appears suddenly. For some - even championships are held! But, it seems to me, the author had in mind completely different. He uses this phrase in the context of his reasoning about combat use. That is, pendulum movements in a real duel can be met, and you can even calculate them. But the sudden appearance of the enemy in hand-to-hand combat or on a wrestling mat is possible only if you lose your vigilance very much.
  10. kunstkammer
    kunstkammer 9 December 2017 13: 18
    0
    Practical shooting pendulum

    or Macedonian shooting ...
    As far as I heard from many experts - this is complete nonsense. I think they know better.
    1. Glory1974
      Glory1974 9 December 2017 14: 15
      0
      or Macedonian shooting As far as I have heard from many experts - this is complete nonsense ..

      In Macedonian, it’s two-handed. Not rubbish at all, but reality.
      1. CTABEP
        CTABEP 12 December 2017 17: 30
        0
        Only in a combat situation is meaningless. Just like the swing of a pendulum.
        1. Glory1974
          Glory1974 15 December 2017 11: 03
          0
          Only in a combat situation is meaningless.

          There may be situations when the right arm is injured. If you know how to shoot with two hands, you will not be lost.
  11. kunstkammer
    kunstkammer 9 December 2017 13: 39
    +2
    Mentally, he practices various techniques that may occur in a particular situation. For example, moving along the street, he evaluates

    a person’s lifestyle or profession plays a large role. Once I noticed that I was involuntarily assessing my position, location for an emergency or catastrophic situation. For example, you are riding in a simple regular bus and you are already evaluating what will happen if the bus rolls over to its left side .. to its right side .. jammed doors .. a fire starts. Mentally calculate your actions. And in time, too: if the path is clear, if there are casualties, etc.
    By the way, usually a person saves himself - so we are all arranged. But with a predetermined calculation, you can simultaneously (save) help to get out or pull out one or several people behind you. And this is already happening almost automatically - your brain is confident in the sequence of salvation and in calculation. After actions on the machine stop ... you can evaluate the new situation and make a new decision.
    Several times I noticed this with me - you work as if disconnecting from reality, but everything happens correctly and efficiently. Almost lightning fast - without thinking about their actions.
    1. BMP-2
      BMP-2 9 December 2017 19: 00
      +1
      Improving the quality of motor skills in their mental reproduction is an ideomotor training. In the USSR, research in this area, if my memory serves me, was carried out before the war. That is, in essence - you yourself intuitively reached an understanding of this method of improvement, and applied it to reduce the reaction time in real situations.
  12. Sedoy
    Sedoy 9 December 2017 14: 43
    +1
    * The pendulum is the ability of a fighter to move in space during a duel, and not the ability to hit a target with a weapon.
    --------------------

    well maybe....
    but it’s also advisable to hit ...


    motion example
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_NR9gFCIvc

    Rogozin showed his skills of shooting "Macedonian"

    1. odometer
      odometer 9 December 2017 15: 06
      0
      On the first video and comments do not ... laughing
    2. bunta
      9 December 2017 16: 35
      +3
      Ospishchev demonstrates moving with an added step - something that in sambo and judo is learned from the basics.
      Rogozin demonstrates what used to be shown in circuses. Cool, but no practical use in battle.
  13. ImPerts
    ImPerts 10 December 2017 09: 38
    0
    Quote: Mik13
    And the author of this joke, which you deigned to quote, must be kicked throughout the body until the full enlightenment of consciousness ...

    The author of this joke set out correctly. And apparently not you will beat him, but he will shoot first.
    Quote: Mik13
    A soldier suddenly collides with an adversary and discovers that for some reason his machine gun is not firing.

    The enemy, blazing with anger, but noble impulse, throws an assault rifle, carbine, pistol and starts a melee)))
    Quote: Spade
    Indoors, or when cleaning trenches.

    Similarly ... Directly some kind of movie ...
    Here is an example of the correct movie:

    Quote: Spade
    Capture weapons. And for its use it is necessary to at least free yourself from capture and break the distance.

    And so on.
    So the author of the joke is right, oh right.
  14. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 10 December 2017 18: 53
    +3
    Bogomolov there they had pistols with 7-9 rounds.
    The cartridges were safe, so they shot a little, and it was possible to dance,
    interfering with aiming. Now they hold two or three stores of 15 rounds
    and shoot quickly with two hands. One or two bullets out of ten to fifteen
    just grab it, no matter how you dance. Better fall to the ground and roll
    into some dimple. And then think about it.
    1. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 10 December 2017 19: 32
      +1
      There was such a Brazilian footballer - Garrincha. Well, his name was wrong ... no matter. So, in the attack, Garrincha was almost invincible. In doing so, he used the same feint. Always the same. Pretended to go to the right, and began moving to the left. Or vice versa.
      His opponents played against him for many years. They went out against him regularly. We watched the video replay to stupor. Dismantled the movement of the bones. And then they again entered the field, and again threw themselves into the void, while Garrincha, not particularly hurrying, spanked to score another goal. In Bogomolov, in general, everything is written about such a thing, otherwise our grabbers would simply lose.
      And by the way. The cartridge in battle is only one. The one in the trunk.
    2. brn521
      brn521 11 December 2017 14: 48
      0
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Bogomolov there they had pistols with 7-9 rounds.

      For what I bought, for that I sell. There was once a vip-v site with a selection of materials, I tried to try it in practice, it seemed to me noteworthy, but complicated. Unless with long workouts, the sense will come out.
      The appearance of self-loading revolvers was the reason for the appearance of the pendulum itself. When evading one shot was not enough, and the shooting began to be conducted in almost bursts, there was only one way out - to flick continuously, not allowing plain aim at the upper third of the carcass. And this nonsense https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_NR9gFCIvc is no good. In the original, the character stands exactly sideways and at the same time continuously sways. He doesn’t move his legs, it’s too slow, but his body. To do this, he needs to "train the supless," that is, flexibility. For example, get on the bridge and leave it yourself. And not just flicker, but rather accurate aiming retaliatory fire, otherwise it makes no sense.
      Initially, this thing went from dueling on pistols. The main idea is that while the enemy fires a shot, you can manage to dodge. Non-commissioned officers duel among themselves no less than nobles and were not constrained by prejudice. Those. were not going to stand a pillar, hiding behind a pistol while aiming at them. The fastest way to get the top half of a carcass out of a shot is to bend or bend while standing sideways. At the time of flintlock pistols, there was enough time for evasion. When self-cocking revolvers went, it became harder, but 2 things turned out. At short distances, the convenience of holding and maneuvering weapons is more important. Therefore, the revolver was held not vertically, but sideways - so bringing it to the right, left, up, down is much more convenient. At the same time, the cock cocked with the thumb of the second supporting hand - this is also noticeably more convenient than with a vertical hold. As a result, the technique improved significantly - the shooter not only stood sideways and bent, moving away from the shot, but at the same time retained the ability to conduct a fairly high-quality return fire. At a distance of 5-10 meters, this is quite enough.
      What else is there? Round-handedness is also important. Minimal footwork when walking or cornering, you have to deal with your own inertia. We hold the weapon with our right hand, support with our left, we aim at the bar with our right eye. As a result, we control a rather big sector. If there is a threat from the opposite side, we do not turn the whole carcass, but hands and head, while shifting the revolver into the left hand and aiming with the left eye. Reconstructors assured that a little training and the handle of the revolver during turns would quickly move from hand to hand on the machine. And it will turn out noticeably faster than tossing and turning with the legs.
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Now they hold two or three stores of 15 rounds

      Not in this case. There used to be no alternative to melee pistols. But machines appeared in WWII. Flickers are not flickers, but the line from the hip from some kind of MP-40 will probably get you.
      Quote: voyaka uh
      and shoot fast with two hands

      Even in the days of revolvers, there was no point in simply flicking, swinging the pendulum. The center of gravity is still not shifting much. They’ll get it somewhere — for example, in the stomach or legs. Not with the first bullet, so with the fifth or seventh. Flip-flops and rolls would be more logical - here and leaving the aiming line, and acceleration due to lowering the center of gravity. But such feints do not make it possible to conduct targeted retaliatory fire in the process. In addition, with the above grip, such somersaults will not help much, the weapon is equally easy to point horizontally and vertically. Even if you roll under your feet, it won’t help.
      As for the weapon, according to the reenactors, there is a certain difficulty in its selection. For example, a revolver or at least a TT with such a grip is noticeably more convenient than a PM.
  15. Jerk
    Jerk 14 December 2017 23: 54
    +1
    Practical shooting, like any sport, is distantly related to life. But the author has two jambs:
    * The Weaver stand is one of the few things that came from a real application. ONLY IT IS NOT ARMY, BUT POLICE - different tasks - fast transfer of fire along the front and reaction to a suddenly arising threat, and at a distance of using a pistol. And for these purposes, the Weaver is ideal.
    * At the opening of the fire, just the pillar will stand, "without crossing your legs." Lying on the belly or rolling away to the side, scorching in the white light - there are more chances to survive than standing up and aiming. The main thing is not to fall))) This is not boxing, where oncoming hit, shoot at a target shooting at you ... Maybe alpha and can, and then, I think, not all. He fired in the direction of the threat and rolled sideways - and let him hit a fast-moving target the size of a soccer ball, which also burns that look again.