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Victor Bondarev: "The United States simply did not learn to appreciate the world"

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Starting joint large-scale exercises with South Korea, the United States is going to the bank, said Chairman of the Federation Council Committee on Defense and Security Viktor Bondarev.


From the point of view of the Americans, to stop the escalation of the conflict, to enter into a peaceful dialogue with the DPRK means “to lose face”, to admit their claims to the role of the global hegemon are untenable.

Victor Bondarev: "The United States simply did not learn to appreciate the world"


You need to know the mentality of Americans to understand this. That is, exactly those actions - the search for a compromise - which in essence mean political force and political will, they perceive as weakness. You know, there is such wise advice to those who argue: be smarter - keep silent. The United States interprets "silence" as the absence of arguments. This is their credo, they are used to speaking in the language of force, they simply do not understand the other. And if suddenly the first stop pumping, then, as they think, the world community will take it as slack, fear and lack of a decent military response. The United States simply did not learn to appreciate the world that they themselves have by default (after all, on their territory there were practically no military operations for history!), but which got to many countries at a very high price. They themselves wage wars exclusively in foreign territories.
- said the parliamentarian.

Bondarev said that we must rely more on the minds of North Koreans.

Yes, then, with what despair picked up the baton of the arms race Kim Jong-un, until it gives us hope for "detente." But still, with the mediation of international organizations, Russian diplomats and politicians, I think it will be possible, including by appealing to history, to find arguments in favor of changing North Korean tactics to a more constructive
- he added.

Bondarev recalled that Russia, together with China, proposed such a mechanism for resolving the conflict as “double freezing”. But the snag is that both sides must take it, and the US is completely different for the time being.

I hope that the DPRK "will be smarter" and go to rapprochement. Most likely, this will happen not here and not now. And more than one precautionary "otvetka" will fly after the United States, but rather even their less "sovereign" allies. The main thing is that for the time that passes before the moment when the DPRK will be ready to re-take a step towards dialogue, no irreparable actions that are tragic for all of humanity have been committed. ”
- quotes Bondarev his press service
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  1. Svarog
    Svarog 4 December 2017 18: 39 New
    +6
    Where did they learn, they really haven’t fought with anyone yet ... They need to be taught.
    1. Logall
      Logall 4 December 2017 18: 42 New
      19
      We would teach, but we know the price of what it will cost us!
      You won’t have to go home, this time! I would save my own ... Home is land!
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 4 December 2017 18: 44 New
        +1
        Quote: Logall
        We would teach, but we know the price of what it will cost us!

        We wouldn’t be 200 years old without a war, otherwise the population would die out. Look, the Chinese brothers let them hesitate, gain combat experience, unload the planet a little.)
        1. 210ox
          210ox 4 December 2017 19: 04 New
          13
          Something in history I don’t remember if we were without a war. 200 years? Constantly all sorts of dodges from Polovtsy and Batu to Hitler and NATO .. ​​We bury all of them here, we are torn ourselves .. But the Russian Land is too tidy. protect.
          Quote: Svarog
          Quote: Logall
          We would teach, but we know the price of what it will cost us!

          We wouldn’t be 200 years old without a war, otherwise the population would die out. Look, the Chinese brothers let them hesitate, gain combat experience, unload the planet a little.)
          1. Pirogov
            Pirogov 4 December 2017 19: 20 New
            +6
            Quote: 210ox
            Something in history I don’t remember if we were without a war. 200 years? Constantly all sorts of dodges from Polovtsy and Batu to Hitler and NATO .. ​​We bury all of them here, we are torn ourselves .. But the Russian Land is too tidy. protect.

            Yes, what is 200 years in my opinion and 20 years without a war, not when it was not.
            1. Going
              Going 4 December 2017 20: 14 New
              +3
              Quote: Logall
              We would teach, but we know the price of what it will cost us!
              You won’t have to go home, this time! I would save my own ... Home is land!


              Alexander, what's the solution? , who will teach them, unfortunately, there is no one but us.
              1. bouncyhunter
                bouncyhunter 4 December 2017 20: 23 New
                +5
                Victor, good evening! hi How can these star-striped earhooks appreciate what they have essentially never lost? What did they have there: the war of independence and the civil North with the South? Dust! That someone would roll them a war game on their own territory - at once they would reconsider their views on life.
                1. Going
                  Going 4 December 2017 20: 30 New
                  +4
                  Good Pasha! hi , we’d stay at home and there would be no problems, it turns out that you can only come to their territory remotely and do not run into tanks with them, but I would like them to smell the gunpowder in full.
                  1. Tatyana
                    Tatyana 4 December 2017 20: 35 New
                    +7
                    I am almost sure that there will certainly be a war! It’s impossible to agree peacefully with the USA! We see this everywhere and in everything! In Washington, sitting rabid "dogs", thugs, unchained.

                    1. Going
                      Going 4 December 2017 20: 37 New
                      +4
                      Maybe you're right, but oh how I would not want to.
                    2. 210ox
                      210ox 4 December 2017 21: 31 New
                      +2
                      Tatyana.. love I hope that this will not happen. Yes, the politicians there are inadequate there as well. But there is another force there, it’s the military. Whatever we say, but among them there are sober-minded people. And they won’t press the red button. I hope.A if they appear among them, such as in the film Kubrick's "Doctor Strangelove, or how I stopped worrying and fell in love with the atomic bomb" .. Then consider the amba ..
                      Quote: Tatiana
                      I am almost sure that there will certainly be a war! It’s impossible to agree peacefully with the USA! We see this everywhere and in everything! In Washington, sitting rabid "dogs", thugs, unchained.

                  2. bouncyhunter
                    bouncyhunter 4 December 2017 20: 37 New
                    +5
                    Quote: Going
                    it turns out that you can only come to their territory remotely and do not run into tanks with them, but I would like them to smell the gunpowder in full.

                    Canadians on the one hand, Mexicans on the other. There is no one to be afraid of on your continent, so mattresses are grizzled without measure, their grandmother is slammed over through the lock. negative
                    1. Going
                      Going 4 December 2017 20: 42 New
                      +4
                      That's the whole problem, where to create a bridgehead and deploy a group to show them what an attack of ground forces is.
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                  1. bouncyhunter
                    bouncyhunter 4 December 2017 20: 43 New
                    +3
                    Tatyana, hello! hi love
                    Quote: Tatiana
                    I am almost sure that there will certainly be a war! It’s impossible to agree peacefully with the USA!

                    If mattresses are not reasoned, then war cannot be avoided.
              2. gladcu2
                gladcu2 4 December 2017 23: 00 New
                0
                Why did you decide that you could teach the USA?

                Only these circumstances can change these guys.

                The US lives in a field of competition. And if competition is not driven into the conditions of the rules, then it becomes a war.

                Macrosystem Capitalism. Hence all the inconvenience.
            2. Nyrobsky
              Nyrobsky 4 December 2017 23: 34 New
              0
              Quote: Pirogov
              Yes, what is 200 years in my opinion and 20 years without a war, not when it was not.

              Here, not so long ago, some historian voiced the fact that for 2 thousand years of our era, humanity has not fought something in the region of 260 years. Let's just say, some kind of stupid our humanity, if, despite all the sacrifices, we have not learned to obey the main commandment - "Do not kill."
      2. Juborg
        Juborg 5 December 2017 00: 26 New
        0
        When will this former dump? His smart speeches are already sick. The brain drank.
    2. 1331M
      1331M 4 December 2017 18: 43 New
      11
      And who will teach? DPRK will overtake. China is economically tied up strongly. Russia, so our entire "elite" of children sent there with money together ...
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 4 December 2017 18: 48 New
        +2
        Quote: 1331M
        And who will teach? DPRK will overtake. China is economically tied up strongly. Russia, so our entire "elite" of children sent there with money together ...

        It's true...
    3. Proxima
      Proxima 4 December 2017 18: 56 New
      +3
      Quote: Svarog
      Where did they learn, they really haven’t fought with anyone yet ... They need to be taught.

      The United States had one more or less serious war on their territory (the civil war and the war of independence do not count) - this is a war with Britain. So what? The British managed to turn in Washington - it burned in 1815 with the Capitol worse than Moscow! fellow Two oceans separate them and managed to get into such a mess! Where is the United States located so as not to get laid, on Mars or what? belay
      1. Esoteric
        Esoteric 4 December 2017 19: 05 New
        +3
        Quote: Proxima
        one more or less serious war on their territory

        Took off the tongue. I add that she does not go to any comparison with the won, which is a modern weapon. But they will wait ... Eun will not die alone, and we will not allow ourselves to be easily thrown with rockets ...
        1. Dembel77
          Dembel77 4 December 2017 20: 40 New
          +3
          Amerikosovskie ryogryogby wait for the Last Judgment on its territory. It is a pity that innocent people will again suffer, as always, as hostages of the warlike policies of their government. Washington oil pumps will bring trouble to their country and will be horrified by this terrible trouble, but it will only be too late. God forbid, of course.
  2. Vadim Zhivov
    Vadim Zhivov 4 December 2017 18: 42 New
    +3
    And he probably was not in vain to increase, judging by his words hi
  3. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 4 December 2017 18: 47 New
    +5
    Trump will no longer be able to adequately get out of this situation, even if he acquires Eun with the most offensive nicknames! Koreans have nowhere to bend, so they don’t bend, but start a war without a ground operation, I apologize for "smoke in the star" ¡
    In general, for such US provocations at the borders of North Korea one must tear one's head off!
    1. Vadim Zhivov
      Vadim Zhivov 4 December 2017 18: 52 New
      +1
      We have nothing more than if only completely and the Chinese have not yet been rearmament for years, don’t know how much ...
    2. Plate
      Plate 4 December 2017 19: 12 New
      +3
      Well before that, in principle, you could release hundreds of Tomahawks across the DPRK, drop tons of bombs from carrier-based fighter-bombers and the B-1B ... To support a small American contingent and the South Korean army. But now, even with a ground operation, nothing will work. Eun has an ICBM. Nobody will touch him with her. Neither the USA, nor even ten USA at once.
  4. The Siberian barber
    The Siberian barber 4 December 2017 18: 52 New
    +3
    In general, it is interesting to observe the transformation of the train of thought, of people who have passed over (or who have left, are removed), into another "formation" ....
    1. 210ox
      210ox 4 December 2017 19: 14 New
      +2
      You know, you’re right .. These aks are all like that .. They begin to haunt what happened before them .. And then I got into politics too ..
      Quote: Siberian barber
      In general, it is interesting to observe the transformation of the train of thought, of people who have passed over (or who have left, are removed), into another "formation" ....
      1. gladcu2
        gladcu2 5 December 2017 01: 18 New
        0
        Yes, in general, the states do not need this North Korea.

        They need Japan and South Korea.

        If you destroy the economies of these countries, then the states will have time to remove competitors and improve their affairs in the market of their country.

        How to do it? Yes, simple.
        An underwater nuclear explosion causes a tsunami. The economies of these countries are coastal.
        Of course you are to blame for yourself who. To whom to point a finger.
  5. Simon
    Simon 4 December 2017 18: 56 New
    +1
    And they do not need him! request They earn money in war! fool
    1. Kleber
      Kleber 4 December 2017 19: 10 New
      +3
      I will add. In a foreign war.
      1. Baloo
        Baloo 4 December 2017 19: 37 New
        +3
        Quote: Kleber
        Kleber
        I will add. In a foreign war.


        I will add: there have been no wars on their territory for more than 200 years.
        Victor Bondarev: "The United States simply did not learn to appreciate the world"
        1. Weyland
          Weyland 4 December 2017 22: 33 New
          +1
          Quote: Balu
          there have been no wars on their territory for more than 200 years.

          More precisely, more than 150 - in the war of the North and South, they lost more to the people than in the WWII and WWII, put togetherand from Georgia the northerners generally left the ashes!
    2. Esoteric
      Esoteric 4 December 2017 19: 10 New
      +1
      Quote: Simon
      They earn money in war!

      The most important damage that the United States can do is simply disable their equipment, knock it down at every opportunity ... It is unintentional to drown, for example, in the Black Sea ... When everyone sees that American weapons are "dung." Then they and Khan ...
      Conclude a non-aggression pact with each country from the NATO bloc, with guarantees and obligations. In addition to the United States, Poland and Ukraine (although the latter will be taken to NATO ... lol ) To declare this in all mass media, so that the population of NATO countries knows that they are shaking their powers ...
  6. System
    System 4 December 2017 19: 12 New
    +1
    The United States has always been like that, their state is based on the destruction of an entire nation and the use of slaves from the African continent ..
  7. 1536
    1536 4 December 2017 19: 15 New
    +1
    Strategically constant friction with the DPRK is beneficial to the United States. If North Korea hadn’t behaved like that, it would have been difficult to justify the presence of the US Navy in those latitudes, the presence of military bases in Japan and South Korea. So Kim works for salary or on enthusiasm, but he pours water not on our mill.
  8. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 4 December 2017 19: 22 New
    0
    They just have there was no war (which is very unfortunate), they don’t know how it is, for them to start a war, to plunder and kill millions is entertainment and a means of easy gain.
  9. AlNikolaich
    AlNikolaich 4 December 2017 19: 22 New
    +1
    That's right. Start the war, South Korea and Japan kirdyk immediately! America, if at least something is wrong, will be robbed of China right there. Then all of Southeast Asia, right up to Australia, will be covered with a copper basin.
  10. Sergey53
    Sergey53 4 December 2017 19: 31 New
    0
    The United States values ​​only war. They rose on it, developed, earn and live. They are satisfied with constant tension.
    1. Going
      Going 4 December 2017 20: 16 New
      +2
      I’ll say a little differently. The United States understands only power.
  11. DPN
    DPN 4 December 2017 19: 32 New
    +2
    We would teach, but we know the price of what it will cost us!
    Not to us, but to the whole WORLD, and since we know why they are Russia and they are being persecuted, they know that we will retreat. Sometimes we need to remember the Caribbean crisis while they scare us, and NS Khrushchev made the US hide in bomb shelters and then WE lived in peace and harmony for a long time.
    1. Going
      Going 4 December 2017 20: 18 New
      +2
      Quote: DPN
      They know that we will retreat. .


      The trouble is that we have nowhere else to retreat, we surrendered everything.
  12. alexhol
    alexhol 4 December 2017 19: 57 New
    -1
    I agree. Only these same words, but in relation to themselves and the Donbass?
  13. Piramidon
    Piramidon 4 December 2017 20: 20 New
    0
    Stargazers have never experienced all the horrors of war that we experienced. In the old fashioned way, they still hope to sit behind a large Atlantic puddle. But the times of “Topol” and “Governor” do not leave them any chances for this.
  14. askme
    askme 5 December 2017 02: 05 New
    0
    In fact of the matter. That there will be no war. Those who cook dirty tricks to others will rot alive. Those who are patient, who are the peacemaker will be purified, strengthened. Darkness will devour itself in the end. The main thing is not to be this darkness yourself. And constantly strengthen in everything ....)
  15. Eurodav
    Eurodav 5 December 2017 04: 29 New
    0
    Quote: Pirogov
    Quote: 210ox
    Something in history I don’t remember if we were without a war. 200 years? Constantly all sorts of dodges from Polovtsy and Batu to Hitler and NATO .. ​​We bury all of them here, we are torn ourselves .. But the Russian Land is too tidy. protect.

    Yes, what is 200 years in my opinion and 20 years without a war, not when it was not.

    "... According to the calculations of our great historian S.M. Solovyov, from 1055 to 1462 Russia suffered 245 invasions, and in the period from 1240 to 1462 there were 200, that is, almost every year! For the period from 1365 to 1893 , in 525 years - 305 years Russia spent fighting. With the West, 39 wars lasting 288 years. The rest fell on the East, South, where Turkey and the Crimean Tatars, incited by England, devastated the southern outskirts of the Russian state ... "
  16. electrooleg
    electrooleg 5 December 2017 05: 28 New
    +1
    USA goes to the bank


    Yeah. Wo to the bank laughing
  17. Tolik_74
    Tolik_74 5 December 2017 12: 12 New
    0
    Quote: gladcu2
    Yes, in general, the states do not need this North Korea.

    They need Japan and South Korea.

    If you destroy the economies of these countries, then the states will have time to remove competitors and improve their affairs in the market of their country.

    How to do it? Yes, simple.
    An underwater nuclear explosion causes a tsunami. The economies of these countries are coastal.
    Of course you are to blame for yourself who. To whom to point a finger.

    You can also stir up the Yellowstone, all eras will be erased to ashes. Eun will tear three harmonica for joy, noting the Yankee wake