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Who wants to join NATO - run a march to the urns!

When you really want, but do not take, then it's time to hold a referendum. This is exactly what they considered in Kiev after Ukraine frankly kicked off at the Eastern Partnership summit, refused to issue the 3 credit tranche in the amount of 0,6 billion, and explained that Ukraine is still very far from NATO standards.

1 December, the President of Ukraine, realizing that his rating again beat the anti-record - dropping already below 10,5% - decided to somehow raise the rating. As a jack in the absence of intelligible economic and political success - two "breakthrough" solutions. The first is to make a Catholic Christmas for a country with a predominant Orthodox population a day off. The second is to declare that the issue of Ukraine’s entry into the North Atlantic military bloc and the European Union is soon to be put to a referendum.

Officials in the European Union Poroshenko’s referendum initiative was simply ignored. They have enough problems, they say, Ms. Mae, rushing around with her Brexit, or Puchdemon with Catalonia, now Corsican nationalists, sending a letter to Paris proposing to discuss the island’s independence. And then there's Poroshenko, who, you know, is not content with the fact that for him the EU has already presented a gift in the form of a so-called bezviz. By the way, about the visa-free regime of Ukraine with Europe.

According to the latest Ukrainian sociological monitoring services, after the abolition of the visa regime between the EU and Ukraine, migration flows have changed by only 3,5%. It only says one thing: if one of the Ukrainian citizens wanted to visit the EU countries, then he did it without much difficulty before the introduction of a visa-free visa. And who has “a lot of pennies”, so at least some kind of border regime should be introduced - not much will change. Against this background, in Ukraine they started talking about the fact that the EU can cancel (suspend) “visa-free” at any time because Kiev effectively disrupted the introduction of electronic declaration. It was under the introduction of e-declaration to increase transparency and counter corruption European Union in advance and signed a paper on the abolition of the visa regime, saying that by the end of the year he would ask from the Ukrainian authorities for the implementation of the program. It just so happened, there is nothing to ask for, since, in fact, there is no e-declaration system.

The Ukrainian television channel 24TV cites a statement by the expert of the Anti-Corruption Center Anastasia Krasnoselskaya:
What we have reported to the EU for visa-free regime will fail. And it will be a big and scandalous enough step to give the EU an opportunity to talk about sanctions against Ukraine, about the possible threat of a suspension of the visa-free regime.

In the comments to the broadcast, most viewers unexpectedly spoke in favor of the fact that they were only for the suspension or abolition of the visa-free regime. The argument is approximately as follows: there was nothing to travel to Europe for, but for work, who needed it, and with visas could get to Europe.

In general, Peter A. wanted to raise the electoral rating, but something went wrong. It turned out that the only high-ranking Western official who decided to comment on the Poroshenkov referendum initiative was NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg. True, the comment came out somewhat streamlined - they say, your business is: if you want to, you submit the question of membership to the referendum, if you don’t, you don’t.

Stoltenberg statement:
It is for Ukraine to decide whether it wants to become a country that aspires to NATO, or to apply for membership in NATO. And, of course, it is Ukraine who must decide whether to do this through a referendum. This is a national Ukrainian solution.

And this statement by the president of Ukraine himself, which his press secretary, Svyatoslav Tsegolko, cites:
Do not even doubt that in the foreseeable future Ukraine will hold referendums on joining NATO and on membership in the European Union. And the voting results will be as convincingly positive as already recorded in the annals stories referendum on independence.

And here you can hardly do without this "Napoleon" photo:
Who wants to join NATO - run a march to the urns!

Surprisingly, the president of today's Ukraine refers to the referendum from 1 December 1991 “inscribed in the annals” ... And if Peter Alekseevich forgot, he should be reminded that the referendum was held before the Belovezhskaya meeting of the three “leaders” - that is, during existence of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. Thus, Mr. Poroshenko is “legitimizing”, on his part, the Crimean referendum, which took place in March 2014. After all, if Ukraine, according to Poroshenko, had the right to a referendum on independence, being a part of the USSR, then what is the Crimea “worse”? Similarly, it’s not worse — they have held their own referendum on secession from Ukraine.

In general, this statement Poroshenko with his "annals" can now be accurately referred to whenever someone in Ukraine once again tries to declare that the referendum in the Crimea and Sevastopol "did not have legitimacy."

What about a potential referendum on joining NATO? If we believe the services of the Ukrainian social monitoring, then 48% of citizens are in favor of joining the North Atlantic military bloc. Separate, especially “hot”, Ukrainian sources assert that for the entry of NATO already almost 60% of citizens are “Square”. Yes, let 60. And what about the opinion of the rest of 40 (at least) percent? After all, by and large, this is a new division of the split - almost in two. Although what this is all about is all these people, who turned out to be 2014 in February in the Ukrainian government, and solve only one task - the task of total split of the Ukrainian society, of population relief, of breaking historical and cultural, social ties with Russia and strengthening of ties oligarchic sense.

Another question: if Poroshenko comes to the conclusion of these referendums before the end of his presidential line, what will it give? Answer: nothing, zero! A strong, united, dynamically developing Ukraine The West does not need for the simple reason that a strong, united and dynamically developing country can only be together with Russia.
Photos used:
Facebook / Petro Poroshenko
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  1. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 5 December 2017 05: 50 New
    But in the EU and NATO now accept "at will"? So to say, by application wassat
    1. Chertt
      Chertt 5 December 2017 06: 45 New
      Petyunya, with the EU and NATO, puts out a smokescreen, before, so to say, "leaving beloved Nenko"
    2. Primoos
      Primoos 5 December 2017 10: 14 New
      Any referendum under the auspices of the United States will show a result that is beneficial to the United States. Or does anyone have doubts about this?
    3. Reserve officer
      Reserve officer 5 December 2017 11: 13 New
      The main thing is to blather - well, who, they say, is against us with NATO ?!
      By the way, pay attention to the photo. If it's evening and Pedro is sober - some kind of nonsense. And if the morning and without a hangover - even more so. It can be said a rare shot.
      1. solzh
        solzh 5 December 2017 11: 37 New
        It can be said a rare shot.
        laughing laughing laughing good good good
  2. Fitter65
    Fitter65 5 December 2017 06: 57 New
    Selyanka, do you want big and pure love? Come to the hayloft !!!
    It’s not enough to want ourselves, it’s necessary that they also want you, and not just have.
  3. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 5 December 2017 07: 14 New
    as convincingly positive as the referendum on independence is already inscribed in the annals of history
    The analogs of Ukrainian history are associated with a consonant word. And Ukraine entered into these analies.
  4. prior
    prior 5 December 2017 10: 08 New
    Advising something maydanut only angry.
    Who and when did NATO defend?
    Yugoslavia? Europe from migrants? Arabs from ISIS?
    Go kakly, trident in your hands!
  5. Dobriy_chelvek
    Dobriy_chelvek 5 December 2017 12: 37 New
    I agree with the author’s message, and here’s a remark - Ukraine had the right to leave the USSR in accordance with Art. 72 of the Constitution of the USSR and the Law of the USSR of April 3, 1990 No. 1409-I “On the Procedure for Solving Issues Related to the Exit of a Union Republic from the USSR”. Article 137 of the Constitution of Ukraine did not give the Autonomous Republic of Crimea the right to secede from Ukraine. What I wanted to say by this: I myself am a Crimean, however, I understand that political issues have become more important than law, well, God is our judge.
    1. Volodin
      5 December 2017 13: 02 New
      Quote: Dobriy_Chelovek
      Article 137 of the Constitution of Ukraine did not give the Crimea the right to secede from Ukraine.

      At the time of the referendum in the Crimea in Ukraine there was a state anti-constitutional coup, which crossed out the constitution of Ukraine. To be more precise, the Constitution of Ukraine was canceled even earlier - with Yushchenko’s 3 election round. And this is for you both the “right” and the policy in one bottle.
      1. Dobriy_chelvek
        Dobriy_chelvek 5 December 2017 13: 16 New
        The illegality of government and power is determined by the main body for the interpretation of the constitution - the Constitutional Court. At the time of the Maidan, the Parliament of Ukraine was legally elected and acted against Yanukovych. Here the situation is the opposite of 1993, when Yeltsin won and the Supreme Council lost, there was also illegal action, and the legality of the 1993 Constitution raises questions no matter how it was adopted at a referendum by decree 1400, and it generally raises a lot of questions, so how I said - God is our judge.
        1. Volodin
          5 December 2017 14: 14 New
          Quote: Dobriy_Chelovek
          The illegality of the government and the authorities is determined by the main body on the interpretation of the constitution - the Constitutional Court.

          It would be very (well, very) strange if the constitutional court of Ukraine, which actually ran away with fear during the Maidan, would also recognize the fact of the anti-constitutional coup. And the fact that God is the judge of all, I do not argue.
  6. gladcu2
    gladcu2 5 December 2017 18: 15 New
    NATO is a tool for the colonization of Europe.
  7. 1536
    1536 5 December 2017 18: 22 New
    Ukraine in NATO is the end of NATO. In fact, the French, Germans, and even more so the British will not fight barefoot and hungry when the Ukrainians sit in Noter's capters and infiltrate the kitchens and galleys.