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Another upgrade of the Su-33: Special computational subsystem

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Another batch of deck fighters Su-33 as part of the upgrade was equipped with a special computing subsystem SVP-24-33, reports press office Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.




As a result of the modernization, “airplanes will be able to work with high efficiency not only in air, but also in ground and sea targets,
says release.

Su-33 is a fourth-generation Russian carrier-based fighter developed for the Russian Navy.

It is reported that he "is intended to destroy the enemy's air attack means independently and in cooperation with other forces and means of a naval aircraft carrier connection in solving air-defense and missile defense tasks."

According to the press service, in parallel, work continues to equip the SVP bomber Su-24M and Tu-22М3.

As specified in the department, the installation of equipment on the Su-24M aircraft is carried out directly in the flight units, and on the Tu-22М3 - at the manufacturing enterprise.
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  1. Vadim Zhivov
    Vadim Zhivov 4 December 2017 13: 31 New
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    It is a pity they are few and this topic is not considered. And the sights are good but they are not forever sorry soldier
    1. hrych
      hrych 4 December 2017 13: 45 New
      +2
      Quote: VadimLives
      And the sights are good

      It seems that the frequent striking of Tu22m3 is the calibration of SVP, although a couple of bombs are dropped from the Su-24, and then a dozen am
      1. Rushnairfors
        Rushnairfors 4 December 2017 14: 21 New
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        No, calibration is performed at the pulp and paper mill at the training ground after the equipment is installed at the plant in Kazan, either testers or crews fly by order of the Commander who are allowed to test flights at the ARZ. Nobody will ever drive Avot to Syria. I think I do not need to explain why?
        1. Vadim Zhivov
          Vadim Zhivov 4 December 2017 14: 30 New
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          Dear, do not tell me about the chairs TU22M3 former commander stalled hi
          1. Rushnairfors
            Rushnairfors 4 December 2017 15: 07 New
            +3
            Specifically, what interests? My opinion (and the opinion of 100% of Tu22m3 pilots) is slop !!!! The position of the slats is such that if there is no time to fold your arms correctly, then 90% will break the arms and stop them, then double-movement the slats, first up (the “manufacturing” system works, the lid of the lamp is reset, the restraints are triggered, the steering wheel leans back to the board , pulling up the legs) and then squeezing yourself out (the “shot” system - the chair went off), that is, if there is a shortage of time and taking into account the coefficient of analysis ..... there are chances to dull, well, and even more tasty it’s a detachable back with a headrest, like said our PDSnik who jumped with this parachute system — when landing and falling, the rigid frame of this back can easily break the spine. By the way, we were also told at the courses that the KT-1 consists of more than 1200 parts (for comparison, K36 is not much more than 300), that is, specialists and repair and regulation of these wonderful armchairs on the ground carry out stressfully. Answered the question?
        2. hrych
          hrych 4 December 2017 14: 58 New
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          Quote: Rushnairfors
          No, calibration is done at the pulp and paper mill

          Well, I agree, not a calibration, but a field test drinks In Syria, the Su-24 has long flown with these things and nothing, why can not Carcass, set the device and go ...
          1. Rushnairfors
            Rushnairfors 4 December 2017 15: 43 New
            +5
            Of course you need, in general, the guys from Hephaestus CJSC have a lot of interesting offers, but can’t afford our Russian Defense Ministry along the way
      2. TELEMARK
        TELEMARK 4 December 2017 14: 46 New
        +1
        A comrade from Syria arrived, led the task force, composition: UAV, PTK, T-55 with a French rangefinder and security squad detachment. infantry from Petropavlovsk, asked him a question about that 22m3 and nails with a microscope, the answer is that there is an extremely short supply of ammunition, the Syrian express can’t cope, 6 tandem ATGMs were issued for ATGMs, survive on your own, therefore recycling cast iron from Russian airfields is a frustrated event!
        1. hrych
          hrych 4 December 2017 15: 08 New
          +2
          Quote: TELEMARK
          on this disposal of pig iron from the airfields of Russia-a disastrous event!

          Just SVP - a good way for high-precision utilization of cast iron
    2. svp67
      svp67 4 December 2017 13: 45 New
      +1
      Quote: VadimLives
      It is a pity they are few and this topic is not considered. And the sights are good but they are not forever sorry

      The question has already been raised that these "drying" are already at the limit of the possibility of exploitation. What have the standards been revised or capitalized through during modernization? Do not know
      1. Grandfather
        Grandfather 4 December 2017 13: 56 New
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        Quote: svp67
        Another upgrade of the Su-33: Special computational subsystem

        Quote: svp67
        The question has already been raised that these "drying" are already at the limit of the possibility of exploitation. What have the standards been revised or capitalized through during modernization? Do not know

        who cares? we don’t have an aircraft carrier fleet, even if we turn our hair inside, we don’t need to, actually, when the “HYPER” appears, (dear target) we are not invaders, and there are no colonies, and Syria has shown that it’s easy to get by, “blacksmiths” I probably did more damage, honestly, I think the program will be minimized, hooray and all that, of course it's good, but common sense is more correct.
        1. Romario_Argo
          Romario_Argo 4 December 2017 14: 04 New
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          There was still news that they would recreate the production of VTOL aircraft, such as the Yak-141
        2. Rushnairfors
          Rushnairfors 4 December 2017 14: 30 New
          +7
          Well, Syria just showed that if we had a normal aircraft carrier with a normal air group and aircraft ground under the WTO and calibrated by Hephaestos, then it would have come in handy there. And so .... a scanty air group, su33 with hastily installed and not really tested SVP24-33, frankly unprepared to work "on the ground" using this system, pilots who, in a good way, would have been worth a couple more months to "haul" to the training ground, to train defective units of the brake systems, and of the illiterate actions of the crew of the ship, which led to the loss of instant 29k. But this does not mean that the aircraft carrier would not be useful in Syria, with the normal preparation of the ship, the air group and personnel, the decks there could make a rustle no worse than the land pilots from Khmeimim
          1. Bongo
            Bongo 4 December 2017 16: 38 New
            +1
            Quote: Rushnairfors
            Well, Syria just showed that if we had a normal aircraft carrier with a normal air group and aircraft ground under the WTO and calibrated Hephaestos

            Excuse me, this is a purely amateurish question, and with what take-off mass can the Su-33 launch from the deck, and what is the weight of the combat load?
            1. Rushnairfors
              Rushnairfors 4 December 2017 16: 57 New
              +1
              Forgive me, I’m not a decker, and in general I have not studied or operated the Su27 family aircraft, so I can’t answer the question. Maybe you can find something on Wik.
              1. Bongo
                Bongo 5 December 2017 05: 18 New
                +1
                Quote: Rushnairfors
                Forgive me, I’m not a decker, and in general I have not studied or operated the Su27 family aircraft, so I can’t answer the question. Maybe you can find something on Wik.

                Well, I didn’t just ask. Those specialists with whom I spoke have doubts about the necessity of installing the SVP-24 on a single-seat vehicle with a very limited combat load when taking off from the TAKR.
                1. Rushnairfors
                  Rushnairfors 5 December 2017 05: 34 New
                  +1
                  Well, about the installation of the SVP, I do not agree with them - the planes are not only operated from the deck, they carry databases in Severomorsk. In the case of a hypothetical war, it would not be out of place to have a su33 squadron capable of delivering strikes at the NC with high accuracy. They would have to finalize the RLPK — install some modern, more advanced AUR radar, and they will still serve.
                  1. Bongo
                    Bongo 5 December 2017 06: 08 New
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                    Quote: Rushnairfors
                    Well, about the installation of the SVP, I do not agree with them - the planes are not only operated from the deck, they carry databases in Severomorsk.

                    Machines were initially “sharpened” not for this, and the life cycle is nearing completion. Several boards were repaired at KnAAPO, but the avionics did not dramatically improve. By and large, the money spent is not effective.
                    And I have a personal question for you. If I am not mistaken, have you served in the Far East? Based in Stone Creek or in Vozdvizhenka?
                    1. Rushnairfors
                      Rushnairfors 5 December 2017 08: 07 New
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                      In Vozdvizhenka.
                      1. Bongo
                        Bongo 5 December 2017 11: 05 New
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                        Quote: Rushnairfors
                        In Vozdvizhenka.

                        So, initially MPA. I still found the Tu-16 there. Chic was an airfield. crying
        3. svp67
          svp67 4 December 2017 16: 38 New
          +1
          Quote: Dead Day
          Yes, and do not need actually

          The aircraft carrier fleet of Russia is NEEDED. Too large a territory of its own and there are many troubled neighbors and neighbors. Both UDC and classical aircraft carriers are needed, at least three AUGs, and Syria has proved it perfectly. Had a full-fledged AUG and used its capabilities to the fullest, it would not have been necessary to chase “strategists” to distant lands, and accordingly, support could be given to ground forces more quickly.
      2. Vadim Zhivov
        Vadim Zhivov 4 December 2017 14: 32 New
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        On the site, a woman from the factory seems hi
  2. tlauicol
    tlauicol 4 December 2017 13: 35 New
    +1
    Bombing ships?
    1. Tusv
      Tusv 4 December 2017 13: 40 New
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      Quote: Tlauicol
      Bombing ships?

      The Hindus still adopted our aviation Bramos (aka Onyx). So on ships, quite a bombing will be successful
      1. tlauicol
        tlauicol 4 December 2017 13: 44 New
        +1
        Quote: Tusv
        Quote: Tlauicol
        Bombing ships?

        The Hindus still adopted our aviation Bramos (aka Onyx). So on ships, quite a bombing will be successful

        that's just we (aviation) did not accept request And now it turns out that from the next. Su33 years will be able to bomb ships with free-falling bombs! And which year is in the yard, by the way?
        1. Tusv
          Tusv 4 December 2017 13: 53 New
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          Quote: Tlauicol
          that's just we (aviation) did not accept

          We can beat with brahmos, on the same Su-30 MKI they experienced 80% success, but it’s too small for us
          1. tlauicol
            tlauicol 4 December 2017 14: 31 New
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            Brahmos, we also did not accept. And the Indians over 15 years remade 2 Su30MKI. They have the time and desire to disassemble another 40-50 pieces. And how many of them do we have in naval aviation?
            I suspect we will never have Sea Onyx
    2. svp67
      svp67 4 December 2017 13: 47 New
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      Quote: Tlauicol
      Bombing ships?

      But what is bad then. The "Somali pirates" have a huge fleet, and most importantly it is based all over the globe, so there is where and why cast iron should be thrown. Fortunately, in Soviet times it was done for the whole third world, and even with a margin ...
      1. tlauicol
        tlauicol 4 December 2017 14: 22 New
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        bad that our level is already Somali pirates
  3. Herculesic
    Herculesic 4 December 2017 13: 37 New
    +3
    And that it was not originally laid down in them, they had only to take off, drive the raven, and go to the landing. ?
    1. Santa bear
      Santa bear 4 December 2017 13: 48 New
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      And the raven and other birds of prey of the most likely enemy. It was not originally intended that these aircraft would solve other issues besides gaining superiority in air and air defense. Yes, and electronic filling in weight dimensions did not allow to put too much.
  4. san4es
    san4es 4 December 2017 13: 48 New
    +2
    Another batch of carrier-based Su-33 fighters, as part of the modernization, was equipped with a special computing subsystem SVP-24-33

    SVP-24 ensures the combination of the target with the location of the carrier, adjusted for the flight path of the bomb, calculated by the on-board computer system taking into account weather conditions and its ballistics. Moreover, the effectiveness of the bombing with SVP-24 is little dependent on weather conditions and the range of visibility in the target area, since it is determined by the GLONASS system and the operation of the aircraft's onboard systems. And conventional ammunition gains effectiveness commensurate with high-precision weapons. On average, a little more than one sortie is required to destroy one object - 1,16
    As for the accuracy of the combat use of free-falling bombs using SVP-24, it can be estimated at 20–25 meters. In a combat situation, there are factors that affect the accuracy of bombing - errors in determining the coordinates of the target, the difficulty of determining the hydrometeorological situation, sharp maneuvering in the target area. , aiming and striking, in addition increases the survival of aircraft

    https://svpressa.ru/war21/article/140026/
  5. serriy
    serriy 4 December 2017 14: 44 New
    +1
    No one is outraged that the modernized Tu-22M3 does not have a refueling system in the air!?!?!? am
    1. Kurare
      Kurare 4 December 2017 15: 23 New
      +3
      Nobody, since at one time Mecheny signed an agreement with the Americans, providing for the dismantling of the refueling system with the Tu-22M. There was no reason, just a gift from Brokeback to striped partners. Russia, as the assignee of the USSR, still fulfills this obligation.
      1. serriy
        serriy 4 December 2017 15: 44 New
        +1
        They removed the system to the labeled one - it was still Brezhnev era. yes And if desired (political), one could bypass ancient restrictions, there are opportunities, and the necessary system can be installed on modernized aircraft. good
        So in vain people do not resent. am
        1. Rushnairfors
          Rushnairfors 4 December 2017 15: 54 New
          +2
          A small correction - removed from the deuces and on triples it never was, the possibility of installation was provided, and this believe different things.
          1. serriy
            serriy 4 December 2017 16: 25 New
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            I believe, it is said that it is necessary
            install the necessary system on modernized aircraft.
            !!!
            The agreement was not ratified by the Americans, it was already violated by both us and the Americans ... The Tu-22M3 plane is actually new, with new characteristics, nothing prevents us from calling it Tu-222 ( laughing ) ...
            On the example of Syria - it became possible to actively use the Tu-22 in Syria from our territory only after creating a corridor through neighboring countries. Need a Tu-22 with a refueling system? Are needed! It’s bad that they did not provide for the installation.
            1. Rushnairfors
              Rushnairfors 4 December 2017 16: 45 New
              +3
              Sorry, I didn’t quite understand what you mean by “TU22M3 PLANE ACTUALLY NEW, WITH NEW CHARACTERISTICS” is this compared to tu22m2? Or do you mean the modernized three? I am also sorry about the fact that the triple without a bar, but what can I do, I’m honestly an endangered one, and I doubt that someone will bother about installing the bar, then you need to install the equipment and conduct tests, retrain people, make changes in RLE, in short, there is a lot of paper and lime to invest and sweat in the cockpit, and the number of serviceable aircraft is not worth it unfortunately
              1. serriy
                serriy 4 December 2017 17: 07 New
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                It seems that the “endangered species” will fly for another 30 years. It is not in vain that a new rocket is supposed to be not a cheap pleasure under it. So I don’t agree with the fact that “it’s not worth it”.
                And I meant that bypassing the inclusion in the contract, a casuistic restriction on the Tu-22 is possible.
                1. Rushnairfors
                  Rushnairfors 4 December 2017 17: 29 New
                  +3
                  30 years will not pull, or rather engines will not pull, this is the main reason for the “Kalash row” in all regiments, if they can shove the NK32, then the plane will gain a second youth. And then refueling, and new missiles, and radar and equipment, and if there are no engines, then all modernization is a waste of money
                  1. serriy
                    serriy 4 December 2017 17: 46 New
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                    if there are no engines then the whole modernization is a waste of money

                    Well yes!? Do, but in vain? Like in a joke - "but the men don’t know!" laughing
                    1. tlauicol
                      tlauicol 4 December 2017 18: 27 New
                      +2
                      why in vain - they build children, summer houses build ..
                  2. activator
                    activator 4 December 2017 19: 36 New
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                    Quote: Rushnairfors
                    more precisely, the engines will not be pulled

                    That is, they no longer make relatives? and as I understand it, what if they wanted to fail already? But what then upgraded to m3? everything except the engines? so it turns out? wonderful things are your Lord. Or was there some kind of engine repair?
                    1. serriy
                      serriy 5 December 2017 01: 14 New
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                      What will be put on the new tu-160m2 is supposed to be installed on the upgraded tu-22 (version tu-22m3m), i.e. engines nk-32-02.
                      1. Rushnairfors
                        Rushnairfors 5 December 2017 05: 43 New
                        +3
                        Well, if you nevertheless shove something that turned out to be unbearable at a certain stage, then you can talk about the rest. In the DA museum in Ryazan, on the basis of 43 pulp and paper pulp and paper systems, there is the only tu22m3 with engines from tu160 - there have already been tests, my brother did not go !!!! Moreover, the mass-dimensional characteristics of the NK25 and NK32 seem to be the same, that is, sticking one instead of the other is not a problem, and the problems were precisely in the ECM (electronic engine control system), the ECM32 didn’t want to work with the fuel automation of the Tu22m3 airplane and the NK25 engine. If the new NK32 have been finalized and I’ll be glad for the top three, I, like everyone, want this plane to fly for many more years.
                    2. Rushnairfors
                      Rushnairfors 5 December 2017 05: 46 New
                      +2
                      There are no relatives for a long time, NK25 pass through overhaul, and specifically there are no new ones
  6. _UMKA_68
    _UMKA_68 4 December 2017 21: 29 New
    +1
    At Army 2017, I found a stand for this subsystem. One of the developers told a lot of interesting things. Next year, I advise everyone who is interested in her to find them in one of the four main pavilions; this year they were, it seems, at 3