The problem of the Crimean "umbrella" missile defense. Are “Triumphs” ready to fend off a massive enemy missile strike?

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Back in 2014 — 2015, during the final phase of establishing the sovereignty of the Russian Federation over the Crimea, a full-fledged mixed grouping of troops was quickly deployed to the peninsula, the “bones” of which were: airborne divisions, fighter squadrons, combined into the 38 th fighter regiment, represented by such Machines like Su-27P, Su-27СМ3, Su-30М2 and Su-27UB, as well as anti-aircraft missile brigades based on the long-range ZRDN C-300PS and C-300ПМ1 complexes. These weapons provided complete security against the background of a probable missile-air strike of the Armed Forces of Ukraine through surviving Su-24M fighter-bomber, Su-25 attack aircraft, as well as operational tactical missile systems 9K79-1 "Tochka-U" and 9-72 "Elbrus". The risk of using this weapon by the new, illegitimate and inadequate Ukrainian leadership was very high even then. To counter the possible aggression of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the land theater of military operations, an impressive grouping of the Russian Army equipped with self-propelled anti-tank missile systems 9K123 "Chrysanthem-S" was transferred to the northern regions of the Republic of Crimea.



These complexes, regardless of the meteorological situation (in the Crimea, it can be very unfavorable) make it possible to fire at enemy armored vehicles at a distance of 6000 m in rain, fog, and snowfall, which is achieved by using the 9М123 additional anti-tank guided missile -2, equipped with a radio command control module. The armored units of the Ukrainian military formations in this case did not have and have absolutely no chance of a "breakthrough" in the area of ​​Armyansk or Predmostnoy.

Today we will try to consider in more detail the possibilities of air defense / antimissile defense systems that have established over the Republic of Crimea a sufficiently powerful aerospace "dome" limiting and prohibiting access and maneuver A2 / AD for high-precision weapons the adversary. The “hot” summer of 2014 of the year was most replete with various information regarding the C-300PS and C-300ПМ1 anti-aircraft missile battalions to the Crimea. Some sources talked about 5 and more complexes (batteries), others about the 20-30 divisions! Given the large number of air routes that are rocket-dangerous for the Crimea (all but eastern), the latter can be considered more adequate figures. In 2016, the range of air defense and anti-missile defense systems of the Russian Federation in the Crimea began to expand. So, in August 2016 of the year, the 18 of the first C-31 "Triumph" anti-aircraft missile battalion of the very long range entered the 2 anti-aircraft missile regiment of the 400 air defense division (Theodosius). From this moment, the anti-air frontiers of the Crimea turned out to be 250 km from the coast. Why not 400 km? We remind you that the ultra-long interceptor missile 40H6 is currently not included in the Triumph kit, and the upgraded 48H6DM SAM has a range only in 250 km.

The next (unofficial) stage of the renewal of the air defense-defense grouping was the arrival in the Republic of Crimea of ​​a more highly specialized and “survivable” troop anti-aircraft missile system C-300В4. Information about this was published on 29 in November on 2016 of the year, on the Kerch web resource kerch.com.ru. At the attached amateur video you can pay attention to the presence in the transferred equipment column one of the main elements of the modernized Anthea - radar program review 9СXNNXX19 Ginger designed for detecting and tracking complex aerodynamic and ballistic objects with a minimum EPR of the order number 2 on the aisle with minimal ESR and X-NUM and X-objects with a minimum EPR of the NMNIMX order and tracking along the aisle with minimal ESR and ballistic objects with the minimum EPR of the X-NUM and X-NUMX mode. as well as the quad launch launcher 0,02А2 for the “light” SAM of medium-range 9М83М with an integrated X-band target radar located on the IG Petritskaya mast about 9 m high. It is most likely that the C-83V15 battery was transferred from the 300-th separate anti-aircraft missile brigade of the Southern Military District deployed in the city Korenovsk (Krasnodar region). The arrival of “Antey” was not spontaneous, but was directly connected with the firing practice of the Ukrainian C-4PS air defense systems in the Kherson region, because the 77ВХNUMXР anti-aircraft missiles could pose a direct threat to military targets and the population of the Republic of Crimea.


In the video you can see the elements of the C-300B4 AIRS system that arrived in Crimea (according to the Kerch information resource kerch.com.ru for 29 November 2016 of the year)


The deployment of the C-300В4 C-400 battery in the Crimea in addition to the C-300 Triumph and C-1PM9 C-82 under the Theodosia and Sevastopol is one of the most important stages in the formation of a fundamentally more sophisticated echeloned air defense and anti-missile system in the South-Western airforce on the South-West air supply and air defense systems in the South-Western airforces and air defense missile systems in the South-Western airforce in the South-West airforce and air defense systems in the South-Western airforce and air defense missiles in the south-west air zone and South American air defense planes in the south-west land zone plan. to the neighborhood. Only this anti-aircraft missile system, which is in service with the Land and Aerospace Forces of Russia, for the first time received an ultra-long-range high-speed anti-aircraft guided missile 9750МХNUMXМВ, which has a maximum flight speed of 50 km / h, intercept height of about 60 - 350 km, and range within 400 - 48 km and range within 6 km / h in the range within 400 - 9 km and range within 96 X / NXX / km / h in the range within 2 km / h, within 9 - 82 km and range within 9 km / h. that is currently unrealizable through the C-15 "Triumph". Moreover, in contrast to the semi-active radar 2H3DM (the C-300 ammunition was never used by the NNXX4-XNUMXMX with the active radar homing heads), the XNUMXМXNNUMXМВ interceptors received ARGSN, thanks to the possibility of deleting the CQ. beyond the “screen” of the terrain or radio horizon, going beyond the limits of the review of XNUMXСXNUMXМXNUMX “Review-XNUMX”, radar, software “Ginger”, as well as on-load tap-changers, located on C-XNUMXВXNUMX launchers.

This principle of guidance ideally corresponds to the rather complex relief of the Southern coast of Crimea, where a large number of elevations, mountain ranges and massifs are a critical problem for a semi-active radar guidance system currently used in the Triumph C-400 system. Nevertheless, another extremely unpleasant moment is traced here: in view of the large dimensions of the 9М82МВ interceptor missiles, their number on each 2А82 launcher is limited to 2 units. Consequently, the entire 4 and 16 anti-aircraft missiles 9М82МВ respectively are present in one battery and one battalion. Whether this quantity is sufficient or not, it is not for us to decide, but for specialists from the command of the VKS and the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces. But one can definitely say that to repel a massive missile strike using a couple of hundreds of strategic UGM / RGM-109E Tomahawk Block IV, AGM-86 ALCM and AGM-158B tactical missiles will not be enough. And this is just one complete salvo of the Arleigh Burke class URO destroyer and the SSGN attack missile of the Ohio strategic class submarine cruiser, whose 22 mine launchers are adapted to use the 154 Tomahawks instead of the Trident 2D5 SLBMs.

Certainly, a large percentage of the enemy’s low-flying strategic missiles will be intercepted by the C-300 PM-1 / C-400 complexes before the crossing of the Southern Coast of Crimea. But given that the shelling would start only from a distance 38 - 55 km (from the height of a universal tower 40V6MD and height of the full-scale division above sea level), to intercept all the "Axes" three or four divisions "Chetyrohsotki" without missiles 9M96E2 is unrealistic, especially when their entrance RGMov in the mountainous relief of the Crimea. Relying on an excessive share of patriotic patriotism, one can argue as much as possible that this opinion has been sucked from the finger by the sore fantasy of the author. Meanwhile, the real situation with a blow to the air base "Shairat" is an iron confirmation of all of the above. And this is only the 200 "Toporov" as an example, while a full-fledged strike by the NATO Navy may be accompanied by the launch of the 300 and more cruise and anti-radar missiles.

By the way, it will be logical to note here the close connection between measures to increase the defense capability of the grouping of Russian troops in Crimea and the agreement with Cairo on the provision of Egyptian air bases for the deployment of combat aviation Russian Aerospace Forces. During a likely regional conflict between the North Atlantic Alliance and the Russian Federation, the tactical and anti-submarine aviation of the Russian Navy and the Navy, based on Egyptian military airfields, will become a powerful air barrier to deter underwater and surface strike assets of the US Navy in the central Mediterranean Sea. From these lines, not a single modification of the Tomahawk strategic cruise missile is capable of reaching strategically important objects of the metallurgical and military-industrial complex of Russia, located in the Urals and in the middle zone of the European part of Russia. In other words, the southern air direction will be deleted from the most missile-hazardous, and this is another “fat” plus in favor of maintaining the combat stability of the anti-aircraft missile regiments and air defense systems of the Ground Forces deployed by the Southern and Western military districts of Russia. As for the territory of Crimea, it continues to fall within the range of the Tomahawks launched from the central part of the Mediterranean, and therefore the only way out is to modernize the anti-aircraft missile regiments deployed in Crimea.

The introduction of the long-range anti-aircraft missile complex C-350 (50Р6А) "Vityaz" will help radically solve the problem. Due to the use of ZUR with ARGSN 9М96Е2 (9М96ДМ) exclusively, the question of quickly disrupting the "capture" of the target at the time of its exit from the MRLS will be finally resolved. Moreover, the “let-forget” mode implemented in rockets, operating on “Tomahawks” within 10 — 15 km, will make it possible to conduct simultaneous interception not of 8 officially declared targets, but up to 16, because X-band 50HXXUMUMX multifunction radar can lead to each of the 6 targets for 8 SAM (after each subsequent destruction of the target, a new target channel will be released, distributed between the 2 airborne 16М9DM using computational tools of the 96K50 PBU).

Several times the large target canal of the Vityaz C-350 complex, with additional support from the Pantsir-С1 and Tor-М1 / 2КM self-propelled complexes, will solve another important problem - the threat from the anti-radar AGM missiles -88 AARGM or, even worse, British “smart” PRLR ALARM, capable of attacking multifunctional radar with a diving angle 90 degrees (from the so-called “dead zone” funnels, where a small elevation radar and semi-active radar self-guidance can lead to the division’s life concerns both Thors and C-300PS). Although the British declared that the ALARM missile was being decommissioned as early as 2014, it is believed to be very difficult, since the joint offspring of the American company Texas Instruments and the British division of Matra BAe Dynamics stand out against the background of other (unfortunately, domestic ) anti-radar missiles of their small size (EPR around 0,05 m 2), as well as a lot of modes of additional search of radio-emitting objects during a three-minute parachute descent over the battlefield. Let's not forget that more multi-channel and productive air defense systems are urgently needed by anti-aircraft missile regiments in the Republic of Crimea due to the threat emanating from the northern air route.

Tens of multiple launch rocket systems 9K51 "Grad", 9K57 "Uragan" and 9K58 "Smerch" do not plan to withdraw Ukrainian troops from the Russian-Ukrainian border in the Kherson region. From day to day, Trump can sign a document on the transfer to Kiev of an 47-million package with a “handout” in the form of lethal weapons, and this will radically change the balance of power in the Donbass theater. What remains unknown is that a new “monster” after the fall of the current Kiev top can crawl out of the lobbies of shadowy nationalist and other structures supervised directly from the Pentagon, or with the help of intermediaries. At a minimum, the next wave of escalation will only flood Donbass theater, and at the maximum, it will affect the Republic of Crimea. Obvious is the fact that not a single unit of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (from the BM RSO to infantry fighting vehicles and OBT) will not be able to cross the Perekop isthmus and will be destroyed in advance by calculations of self-propelled Khrisanthema-S of the missile systems, calculations of the Kornet-E complexes, and using attack helicopters Ka-52 and front-line fighter-bomber Su-34. Consequently, the Ukrainian Grads, deployed in the south of the Kherson region, can pose a threat only to small settlements located just 10 km from Sivash and the Perekop Bay (Armyansk, Suvorovo, Nadezhdino, Medvedevka, etc.). Evacuating a small population from these areas to the safe central cities of Crimea will not be so difficult.

With the "Hurricanes" the situation will be much more serious. High-explosive and cluster unguided missiles 9М27Ф and 9М27К2 types have a range of 35 km and can reach up to the most densely populated city in the northern part of Crimea - Dzhankoy. The impenetrable antimissile barrier in this case can be provided by a battery of anti-aircraft missile and artillery complexes Pantsir-S1, which demonstrated the possibility of interceptions of the NURS Grada and C-350 Vityaz. And most importantly, a small ammunition 16 220-mm unguided missiles on each machine BM-37 eliminates the possibility of penetration into the "anti-missile umbrella" even single enemy missiles. But there is no Vityaz in the troops today, and therefore only Pantsiri, Torah and Buk-M3 can be used as missile defense systems, since the consumption of expensive ammunition sets of C-300B4 and C-400 Triumph for cheap and numerous unguided rockets is an economically inexpedient action. Also, let's not forget that at the disposal of the junta there is a decent amount of the MLRS Smerch, OTRK Tochka-U and a number of modern Alder complexes covering the entire territory of the Crimea. If on the “Points-U” of all the Crimean URD C-300PM1 / 400 is quite enough, then to protect against Tornadoes, definitely, the grouping should be increased.

I would like to mention another important detail that is the main indicator of the performance and survivability of modern mixed groups of air defense / missile defense, deployed both in the territory of the Republic of Crimea and in other regions of the Russian Federation. This is a network-centric linkage between anti-aircraft guided missiles with active RGSN and third-party targeting devices, which include: A-50U long-range radar patrol and guidance aircraft, tactical fighters equipped with powerful on-board radar with PFAR / AFAR, as well as ground and naval surveillance multifunctional radar systems. At present, there is an almost complete systemic linking between the units of the anti-aircraft missile forces of the Russian Space Forces, the air defense of the Russian Ground Forces, and the aviation component of the air defense system, achieved through the development and implementation of automated control systems for the mixed anti-aircraft missile brigade Polyana-D4М1, 73H6ME-Gyyr ", As well as unified battery command points 1C9 / M" Ranzhir / -M. "


The architecture of the information-controlling field of the operator's cabin of the unified battery command post "Ranzhir-M". Due to work with anti-rocket propelled complexes families "Thor M1", "Arrow-10M2 / 3 / 4» and «Gyurza" as well as anti-aircraft missile cannon propelled complexes "Tungussko-M1" tool (program) distance display tactical information is up to 200 km


In particular, during an adversary's likely conduct of a strategic aerospace offensive operation involving several massive missile strikes from underwater, surface and air carriers, Polyana, Baikaly and Razhira are able to optimally and tactically distribute the most priority and dangerous airborne forces. -kosmicheskie objects among individual batteries, divisions and shelves antiaircraft missiles-C family 300P / 400, C-300V / 4, «Buk-M1 / 2 / 3», «Thor M1 / 2», «Pantsir-S1" , "Tungusska-MXNU MX "," Needle / Willow ", which are in service with a mixed group of air defense-missile defense. Synchronization of the above complexes and their versions with the automated control system Polyana or Baikal into a single network-centric network will significantly save their ammunition sets due to the complete elimination of the shelling of one target simultaneously by several anti-aircraft missile divisions.

In other words, thanks to the constant maintenance of the tactical tactical communications via coded radio channels, a complete departure from the so-called “Khutor” principle of building anti-aircraft brigade has been achieved. Even one machine of the Baikal-1МЭ automated control system boasts a huge number of tracked targets (up to 500 units), as well as their distribution simultaneously between 24 anti-aircraft missile systems of the C-300B4 / 400, Buk-M2 / 3 type, in the future, and C-350 "Vityaz". In fact, one “Baikal” is enough for organizing a network-centric air defense on a whole strategic air direction more than 5000 km wide, because the instrumental radius of action of this automated control system is 3200 km. Moreover, the Concern VKO Almaz-Antey initially prepared the computational tools of the system for work on hypersonic aerospace targets acting not only on the endoatmospheric, but also on the exoatmospheric flight segment (maximum height of the processed targets - 1200 km, speed - 18435 km / h) The system fits perfectly into the range of means of countering the aerospace threats of the 21st century, including the “Promoted global strike” advertised by the Americans.

The problem today is observed in the complete absence of a full-fledged two-way communication system between missiles and missiles and air-to-air interceptor missiles equipped with ARGSN and other target designation sources. For example, there is absolutely no information about the over-the-horizon targeting of the P-37, P-77 air combat missiles to the targets, or experienced 9М96Е2 and 9М82МВ anti-aircraft guns using, for example, Aeronaut A-50U aircraft or ground-based radars equipped with relevant types of corresponding types equipped with relevant types of relevant types, or corresponding radar systems equipped with relevant types. During the field tests applied targeting solely on battery radar (RPN 92N6E or LRMS 9S32M in the case of C-400 and C-300V4) or airborne radars "Barrier-AM", "Bars" in the case of MIG-31BM and Su-30SM respectively. Consequently, the possibility of “picking up” a backup two-way data exchange channel with other friendly units with respect to our missiles has not been confirmed.

Consequently, damage to the antenna array or the hardware base on the carrier can lead to the interceptor “into the milk” leaving and the destruction of the enemy. And only in the case of air strikes RVV-AE or RVV-SD (“Product 170-1”), equipped with active-passive radar GOS 9B-1103М-200PS, such an outcome is possible, at which RVV-AE / SD will deliver on any active radar enemy fighter; but not all of our ground-to-air and air-to-air missiles also have passive guidance mode at a radio-emitting object. One more such missile can be considered the P-27P with a passive radar seeker 9Б-1102, but not the fact that the airborne radar of the target will operate in the radiation mode; And the absence of the active mode of the GOS 9B-1102 makes the P-27P less “screwdriver” due to the lack of specified target coordinates (especially if the target uses distracting and other types of interference). Thus, the maximum overload of the destroyed target for P-27P is no more than 5,5 - 6 units.

In the Air Force and the Navy, our overseas "friends", as well as the European NATO member countries in these matters, are more and more thoughtful and captured, despite the more mediocre speed parameters of anti-aircraft guided missiles and air combat missiles. Let us take as an example the perspective long-range missile URVB “Meteor”, developed by the West European corporation MBDA (“Matra BAE Dynamics Alenia”). In addition to a powerful multi-mode integrated rocket-ramjet engine with throttle control through a movable valve in the nozzle of the gas generator, the Meteor rocket is also equipped with an advanced guidance system with ARGSN, INS and receiver of the radio correction channel from several sources at once. Such sources are all ground, surface and air units equipped with a Link-16 tactical network terminals (from AWACS DRLO aircraft to Ticonderox missile cruisers and British Type 45 air defense missiles).

In a simpler view: if F-35B, launched 4 URVB “Meteor” for various targets at a distance of more than 120 km, was shot down, the missiles will not go “into milk”, but will receive targeting from AWACS, naval radar or ground command and control systems of ground-based air defense missile systems, the hunt will continue. Similar capabilities are also possessed by the latest versions of the AMRAAM family of missiles (including AIM-120D), as well as the ultra-long-range ship-based missiles RIM-174 ERAM (SM-6), unified with the universal TLU Mk 41 VLS. Back in the early autumn of 2014, Western sources, citing a press release from Raytheon, reported on the successful network-centric field test of two RIM-174 ERAM SAMs, during which they demonstrated the joint work of combat information and control systems synchronized over the JTIDS radio channel. Aegis ”, placed on the missile cruiser URO CG-62 USS" Chancellorsville "and EM DDG-102 USS" Sampson ". Launched from the first anti-missile SM-6 "adopted" channel radio correction from the destroyer "Sampson"; it was his AN / SPY-1D radar that brought them to low-altitude small targets.

As you can see, to build an ideal and high-performance missile defense system both in the Crimea and in other regions of our state, the VKS need not only the transfer of air defense systems to active radar homing due to the introduction of Triumph’s ammunition 9X96DM missiles, but also modernization all existing and developed interceptor missiles modules for the two-way exchange of information with other pieces of equipment, leading radio and optical reconnaissance in theaters.

Information sources:
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/2296725.html
https://www.gazeta.ru/army/2017/11/30/11020790.shtml
http://rbase.new-factoria.ru/missile/wobb/meteor/meteor.shtml
http://rbase.new-factoria.ru/missile/wobb/c300v/c300v.shtml
http://militaryrussia.ru/blog/topic-633.html
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  1. +3
    4 December 2017 06: 23
    In my wondrous opinion, an attack on the Crimea is unlikely, it must be completely scumbag without any brakes! Which does not mean the removal of tension and the reduction of combat readiness. But the attack on Transnistria from all sides is more than expected!
    1. +11
      4 December 2017 09: 51
      Quote: andrewkor
      In my sofa view, an attack on the Crimea is unlikely, it must be completely scumbag without any brakes!

      When I hear "unlikely", then I understand that it is PROBABLE. Yes, and at the expense of low probability. We have been told about this already about many events that nevertheless HAVE DONE. And it’s better to be prepared than to say later that who knew ...
      1. +14
        4 December 2017 11: 01
        Quote: svp67
        it’s better to be prepared than to say later that who knew ...

        Like - '' winter has come ''?
        I agree, you need to prepare for everything in advance!
      2. +1
        4 December 2017 11: 40
        And about not reducing the combat readiness you read from me?
      3. +10
        4 December 2017 12: 14
        Quote: svp67
        When I hear "unlikely", then I understand that it is PROBABLE.

        Everything is likely. Only there is one "BUT"!
        From nowhere this armada of tomahawks and other things will not come from.
        First, the media will need to be pulled up, and not notice it will be difficult. request
        And the density of the volley is small. The main thing is not to miss the first wave, and then you can shoot down like a dash.
      4. +6
        4 December 2017 13: 38
        Not counted fleet air defense.
  2. +10
    4 December 2017 06: 31
    The attack should be expected not in the Crimea, but in North Korea, this is where you need to strengthen the air defense umbrella, because you have to shoot down American missiles near our territories if it comes to a nuclear strike on the DPRK, they can simply charge the tomahawks with dirty stuffing
  3. +12
    4 December 2017 07: 56
    The US attack on Russian territory should mean only one thing - the start of a global thermonuclear meat grinder until the enemy is completely destroyed.
    1. +18
      4 December 2017 08: 15
      Let me remind you that the downing of a Russian combat aircraft by the Turkish Air Force led the leash to the "tomato war"
      1. +11
        4 December 2017 09: 51
        Aircraft shot down before, especially a lot - during the Korean War. There was no escalation, as battles were fought over third-party territory. The attack on the Crimea with the use of hundreds of missiles is the beginning of 3MB, which will certainly be nuclear.
      2. +13
        4 December 2017 09: 56
        Quote: tchoni
        Let me remind you that the downing of a Russian combat aircraft by the Turkish Air Force led the leash to the "tomato war"

        And I remind you that after the destruction of our aircraft, the main forces of the "pro-Turkish militants" in Syria were subjected to such attacks by our aircraft that even the greatly weakened, at that time, semi-partisan forces of the SAR could win there. Although before they had no chance.
        Alas, Russia is now doing not what it wants, but what it can ...
      3. +1
        4 December 2017 13: 43
        And would you like, because of one downed plane, the operation to "force peace" of Turkey began? And the fact that behind it - NATO - doesn’t tell you anything? Or we have everything in a “bundle” in terms of complete re-equipment and staffing enough to lead full-scale. clash with NATO? And the economy will pull the transition to military rails?
        PS: If you simply step on someone aggressive on the corn, there will be a full-fledged conflict. If:
        - being in armor;
        - with "convincing" weapons;
        - having a balance of arms. and economical. forces. in my favor
        stepping on someone’s callus — this “someone” will grit his teeth and understand - that we: by accident, in an accident, "deserved", the UN supposedly allowed.
        PPS: and the "tomato pressure" and the rejection of tourism in the country where they live with it is also not a small matter.
    2. +15
      4 December 2017 08: 21
      there will be no blow to the territory of the Russian Federation from the United States. For the United States, Russia needs not lying in ruins. Especially with the right prospect to share this fate with her. For the United States, Russia needs a viable and preferably active in the foreign policy arena. Only in this way can it be used as a country - a global aggressor. That will make it easy to lobby the Congress from year to year with an increase in military allocations. Americans are primarily businessmen. After the collapse of the USSR and the liberal (assassination policy of Gorbachev / Yeltsin), which led to the end of the Cold War and the loss of global adversary, it was urgent to invent a new one (Iraq with Saddam, Afghanistan with Osama, etc.). But Russia's increased activity has helped revive Cold War postulates from the ashes. Otherwise, why would the Balts fight in hysteria now in Eastern Europe, again escalating the “horror” of the Russians who are ready to “rush to the English Channel”? After all, everyone in their right mind understands the delirium of these cries.
      1. 0
        4 December 2017 09: 55
        This is all, of course, cool, but Russia needs the USA as a scarecrow, but this does not mean that the scarecrow cannot be kicked.
    3. 0
      4 December 2017 09: 53
      Quote: Krasnyiy komissar
      should mean only one thing - the beginning of a global thermonuclear meat grinder until the enemy is completely destroyed.

      We then understand that this will be the END of today's civilization, but "on the other side" they believe in the possibility of conducting a limited nuclear war and the power of the "first global strike"
      1. +4
        4 December 2017 12: 48
        BSU is impossible to implement by current means. The mass launch of several hundred missiles will be quickly detected by our air defense systems, and the launch of ICBMs with submarines - SPRN radars. There is enough time to give an order for a retaliatory strike, but there can be problems with the will to do so.
  4. +1
    4 December 2017 08: 13
    Although the author presented a somewhat hypothetical situation and a little in a hurry to write an article (judging by the clerical errors and a somewhat confused presentation of thought), the issues raised in the article are very topical. Especially after the Shairat Demonstration
    1. +2
      4 December 2017 10: 10
      > the issues raised in the article are very topical. Especially after the "Shayrat demonstration"

      at what speed you can launch the tomahawks, and at what speed you can reload air defense systems. If it is impossible to recharge operatively, then it is necessary to have the necessary number of deployed launchers.
      If the shelling is from 30 - 35 km, then the ship will be destroyed by the bastion systems, and the matter will definitely not reach reflection otaki pairs of hundreds of tomahawks. And if the blow comes from a distance of several hundred / one and a half thousand kilometers, then this is a completely different scenario
  5. +4
    4 December 2017 08: 23
    Attack on Crimea? Cruise missiles with "conventional warheads"? And will our strategic nuclear forces "sit still"? And the attack of the dill "Tornadoes" and "Hurricanes"? What will our, will look silently at their deployment? And the preparation for the volley?
    Of course, if you wait for the attack and "stop" the consequences - you will be in a known disadvantage ...
    1. +1
      4 December 2017 11: 34
      This is not about this, but about maximizing the air defense / missile defense of Crimea. It seems that the author is right, because it is necessary to cover not only the troops, enterprises, population and infrastructure, but also the fleet and the bridge . As for attacks on dill from other directions and with the use of other forces and means, this is a separate issue.
    2. +2
      4 December 2017 13: 53
      I agree. in the case of Ukraine, it is necessary to consider the option of a preventive, stopping strike with the full-scale introduction of troops and the liberation of most of the country from Nazi occupation. the most "frostbitten guys" are sitting in Kiev .... from there the main danger!
    3. +1
      4 December 2017 15: 41
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      And our strategic nuclear forces will "sit still"

      Ukraine is not the owner of nuclear weapons. ITS cannot be subjected to strategic nuclear weapons (and indeed it is not for the purposes of the Strategic Missile Forces). A nuclear attack is not a nuclear country (and even a signatory to abandoning it in return for security)
      Well I do not know. Once already violated similar pieces of paper.
      This is all hypothetically. Really impossible. The usual weapon, yes. Nuclear not. This is Pandora’s box.
      1. 0
        5 December 2017 09: 33
        Ukraine does not have and will not have another 10 years, the concentration of forces and means of the Armed Forces of Ukraine that Ukraine can afford to devote to attack the borders of the Russian Federation will be swept away remotely with conventional weapons, the only chance of the Armed Forces to inflict losses on the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation is to draw the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation into the short-range shunting battle of motorized rifle units, but if you take into account the possession of the operational art of the headquarters of the APU this is also a fantastic option. Conventional weapons are enough for Ukraine, but for those who decide to fit in, but they certainly will, otherwise Ukraine is not a prodigy, we must remember that And our strategic nuclear forces will "sit still"
  6. +4
    4 December 2017 08: 45
    I did not understand. Did the author hysterical or just decided to show off his knowledge in the field of air defense and missile defense?
    But what is the American attack on the Crimea? The Yankees are certainly far from adequate, but not so much as to substitute their asses under the nuclear whip.
    I think so...

    At the expense of a purely technical assessment of the situation. I agree with the author. But the main message grows out of the impossibility of the situation itself. Well, even if they shoot somewhere in Russia, then in the Crimea in the last turn.
  7. +5
    4 December 2017 09: 00
    The author correctly noted that, unlike the S-300VM, 350, 400, 500, etc. for the first time, the Americans applied the concept of transmitting coordinate information aboard a rocket from various means of electronic intelligence like AWACS using the unified tactical network Link-16. Our similar concept was implemented only on the MiG-13B interceptors of the same type and unfortunately did not receive further development. But even during the formation of those missions on the S-500 about 10 years ago, the concept of external target designation was considered, which allows to separate missile carriers and reconnaissance and target designation systems. This could significantly increase the survivability and stability of the entire air defense and missile defense system. Moreover, it would be possible to launch missiles at the control center from passive radio intelligence systems, including space ones.
    1. +2
      4 December 2017 11: 07
      Are you sure that they are not there, at least for the 350th, 400th and 500th? It is clear that without missiles with an active head such network-centricity is not needed, but 9M96 and 40N6 should finally appear. At the abaza, by the way, they say that the Chinese bought 400 matches with 40H6 and in the near future they will want to see how this product works. And, in my opinion, for modern and perspective purposes, the old, frozen structure of an air defense system or even an air defense system is inoperative. That is, we had to think about it. And as a matter of fact, of course, I do not know.
    2. +1
      5 December 2017 11: 45
      Barrier-E, Vega, Avtobaza-M can give the azimuth of the target, and c400 induces 9m100 which has a radio command guidance. And electronic warfare systems integrated with the C400 can adversely affect Link-16 up to complete blocking. S400 can, with the help of its control means, give target designation to other air defense systems.
      1. 0
        5 December 2017 11: 57
        Quote: AlexKP
        S400 can, with the help of its control means, give target designation to other air defense systems.

        That's about it. That ZRVshniki believe that they are the "navel of the Earth" and are constantly trying to take on non-characteristic functions.
        1. 0
          5 December 2017 12: 10
          Are ZRVshniki users of the C400 complex? And what are C300 users called?
          1. 0
            5 December 2017 12: 30
            Quote: AlexKP
            Are ZRVshniki users of the C400 complex? And what are C300 users called?

            laughing I can’t, I almost tore my stomach from laughter. But there are still "users" of C125, C75, C200, etc. and everyone is called differently. In short, the operation "Y" - so that the enemy did not guess.
            1. 0
              5 December 2017 12: 42
              smile That's about it. That ZRVshniki believe that they are the "navel of the Earth" and are constantly trying to take on non-characteristic functions.

              from this passage he almost tore his stomach from laughter smile
  8. +15
    4 December 2017 09: 20
    Damantsev, like Sivkov in his repertoire. A lot of numbers. with which he “overwhelms” the reader creates the effect of a deep study of the issue, but makes the article unreadable. All these details of technical characteristics, names of ACS, radars and other things overload the article.
    Well, after the phrase
    But you can definitely say that to repulse a massive missile strike using a couple of hundred strategic missiles UGM / RGM-109E "Tomahawk Block IV", AGM-86 ALCM and tactical long-range missiles AGM-158B this will not be enough. And this is just one full salvo of the destroyer URO class "Arleigh Burke" and strike modification (SSGN) of the Ohio class strategic missile submarine,

    desire to read disappears. If the author of “Berka” can strike almost 2 hundred cruise missiles in the presence of 100 cells of which only part is filled with “tomahawks” (EMNIP 28) - then I don’t want to talk about anything.
    The situation itself is so fantastic that it is not real. And the author’s phrase
    Some sources talked about 5 and more complexes (batteries), others - about 20-30 divisions! Given the large number of missile-hazardous air routes for Crimea (all but the eastern), more adequate figures can be considered the last.

    And the author, after such a passage can be considered adequate? 30 divisions is Ten Regiments or roughly speaking THREE AIR DIVISIONS. Are these figures adequate and the author? Judge for yourself
    1. +1
      4 December 2017 11: 59
      First, do not be afraid of numbers, and learn to analyze what is happening, taking into account the number of units and their performance characteristics. Otherwise, any analyst turns into the tales of grandfather Panas. Military-technical prognostics without numbers is nothing. Secondly, learn to read carefully:

      "And this is just one complete volley of the destroyer of the URO class“ Arleigh Burke ”and the shock modification (SSGN) of the Ohio strategic class submarine cruiser, whose 22 mine launchers are adapted to use the 154“ Tomahawks ”instead of the Trident-2D5 XBTM . "

      This is a joint salvo "Arley Burke" (90 cells of the UHFU Mk 41, not 100, roughly 60 of which hold the shock version containers under the "Axes" Mk 14 mod 0 / 1) and the impact version of the Ohio (154) SSBN (24 / 200) and the Ohio (XNUMX) submarine version (XNUMX / XNUMX) and the Ohri (XNUMX) submarine version (XNUMX / XNUMX) and the Ohio (XNUMX) submarine version (XNUMX / XNUMX), and the Ohio (XNUMX) submarine version of the Axis submarine, and "Tomahawks" in XNUMX silos) .. just a little more than XNUMX SLCM ..
  9. +3
    4 December 2017 09: 22
    Why did the author ignore the forces and means of air defense of the Black Sea Fleet?
    Is it not him and his infrastructure, along with airfields, that in the event of war will be one of the most probable targets of the enemy’s first strike?
    I don’t know at what level interspecific interaction takes place there, but, I believe, it may not be awake.
    1. 0
      7 December 2017 11: 39
      To ignore, it would be nice to have an item for this. Shipboard air defense systems would cover themselves. Division "Wasps" at the Marines of Sevastopol? What are the air defense forces of the fleet? Well, in Saki there is still a mixed fleet air group.
      Shooting over the sea as in a dash is not funny. I have often participated in practical firing here in the Crimea. The flow of 5-7 targets from the sea, in a training setting - is not so easy to get off. Hats do not help :)
      The author’s message is understandable - it is necessary to solve the issue of air defense of Crimea not by number (no money is enough), but by new technical methods. The regiments of ZRV around Sevastopol and Feodosia are clearly not enough.
      1. +1
        7 December 2017 11: 56
        Quote: KVIRTU
        To ignore, it would be nice to have an item for this. Shipboard air defense systems would cover themselves.

        Cruiser "Moscow":
        8 × 8 launcher S-300F "Fort",
        2 × 2 SAM "Osa-MA"
        It would seem, what does the Marines' Wasp division have to do with it?
        1. 0
          7 December 2017 19: 40
          Well, how do you say what. In a special period, ships, including and the flagship that you mentioned will leave the base in position areas. With specific tasks, to which the protection of coastal facilities directly does not apply. Interception of the Kyrgyz Republic, in the sense.
          In the first place is the cover of the flagship ship group.
          Therefore, from the resources of the Osa fleet they will remain with the task of covering the MP base in Cossack Bay.
          Of course, some ships in the South Bay will be left, but again, with air defense tasks, not connected to the shore. Covering the fairway from air mine installations, etc.
          1. +1
            8 December 2017 10: 45
            I had in mind the sudden blow of the Kyrgyz Republic from the waters of the Mediterranean Sea (possibly directly from the quays) to the "peacefully sleeping airfields" and to the fleet in our case. Naturally, in the WSBG, everyone will ride and sail to the areas of dispersal, including and objects that are potential targets for a massive strike.
            I believe that such a blow in modern conditions is effective only in the case of an element of surprise. Hence my hopes for the interaction of the Black Sea Fleet air defense and the military air defense.
  10. +6
    4 December 2017 09: 23
    Did the author even look at the map of Crimea? And the location of the air defense? What a blow through the difficult terrain of Crimea. Mountains along the cozy coast from Feodosia to Sevastopol. All radar posts on these mountains, starting from Feodosia (RLP stands on Tepe-Oba, and launchers are scattered from Primorsky to Koktebel) and to Sevastopol. Try to take a walk to the highest points of Ai-Petri or Ayu-Dag - there have been standing military units all their lives and are standing just for these purposes. The blow can only be smashed, and when the “Ax” entered the “difficult terrain”, it means it is already diving on your head.
    1. +6
      4 December 2017 10: 56
      In joining Terran and Moore, I want to add the following.
      Firstly, for some reason, the author forgot that the best air defense is tanks at the enemy’s airfield.
      Therefore, if the destroyer tries to launch something, then it will not be launched immediately with an anti-aircraft missile, but with anti-ship missiles (and we are now shooting almost the entire Black Sea).
      And all NATO ships with the Kyrgyz Republic are escorted.
      Secondly, axes flying over the World Cup are an easy target for our air defense and electronic warfare (the author forgot about it at all) - this is relevant in the light of the fact that there are no reference points for the sea for the Kyrgyz Republic and the Kyrgyz Republic will follow the GPS signal.
      Thirdly, in the event of a missile attack, all AWACS will be shot down in priority order over ANY territory - for this just the number of long-range missiles is enough. And if they are not shot down, they will have to turn off the guidance in order not to be shot down by themselves (pointing at AWAXS usually goes to radiation).
      Therefore, there will be no help from missions from AWACS.
      Fourth, Regarding the strike from Ukraine, then ANY body movement from this side will be instantly suppressed and, IMHO, Ukraine will not have a fleet due to the absence of such.
      Fifthly, heights of the coast alone are from several tens of meters to 1500 m above sea level from Sevostopol to Kerch. From the West, too, decent heights on average from 100 to 200 m.
      Sixth, the use of anti-hail defense systems is a luxury. It’s easier to cover the battery than to spend air defense missiles on shells.
  11. +1
    4 December 2017 09: 48
    One of the problems of the "Crimean umbrella" is its relative vulnerability to a massive blow from the territory of Ukraine. Just recently, in the port of Odessa there were immediately three NATO ships, one of which was the carrier of the Kyrgyz Republic. And Ukraine itself is making great efforts to create new missiles with greater range and accuracy. In this regard, not only the air defense missile defense systems are needed in the Crimea, but also the developed system of radio-electronic systems and electronic warfare systems, the presence of an attack component, for which it is necessary to have the Tornado-S, Uragan and the Iskander anti-aircraft missile systems there, in the required quantity. In short, Crimea should become a modern FORTRESS
  12. +4
    4 December 2017 10: 37
    This makes no sense.
    1) The author complains that there is no information about some Russian weapons. Hence the author’s counter-question: and with what fright should you have it? Can't wait to mess with a smart look?
    2) Even if there is a pidypok in NATO, such as the author of this “masterpiece”, who dares to attack Crimea, then in the next second they will no longer be in the Crimea! Need to explain why?)))
  13. +7
    4 December 2017 11: 08
    while a full-fledged strike by the NATO Navy may be accompanied by the launch of 300 or more cruise and anti-radar missiles.

    If NATO ships are allowed to launch axes over the territory of Crimea, the respected author is modestly silent about the fact that this is tantamount to the outbreak of World War III, and in response to this salvo, the United States will receive a nuclear response with all the consequences.
    As for the fact that the Ukrainian warriors can get something out there ... they, although they are pan-and-headed, clearly understand that such actions are tantamount to a declaration of war, and this will untie our hands. And then no America will help the APU, the National Bats and the junta in Kiev, just as it did not help Georgia on 8.08.2008 in Georgia.
  14. 0
    4 December 2017 11: 46
    Everything is right, what is being done now to cover the Crimea. There will not be a military attack from the current Jewish-Bandera government, since this will be their end, but there are all possible separate attacks from the frostbitten bastards under the control of a no less vile CIA.
  15. +1
    4 December 2017 11: 47
    And where will the non-nuclear warheads come from? In any case, you need to add here the air defense of the Black Sea Fleet ships ... KR will fly on the Black Sea. Launch in the Black Sea is hardly possible (the carrier will be destroyed after the first launch. The Mediterranean Sea remains with an abundance of NATO ships, but also with great flight time and the loss of the Surprise Factor. Plus, the presence of territories of independent states such as Iran and Turkey
  16. +1
    4 December 2017 11: 58
    I read the beginning and became sad. So long as such one-sided experts will hang their snot on our ears? The attack on the Crimea is a war. Great war. And all these “arly-birks”, “Avaxes”, “Ajis” and others like them will be immediately attacked by all available forces and means of the Southern Military District. From the Caspian, "Caliber" will catch up. And do not forget about the fleet. And there they will cover the Iskanders KP.
    If everything was as sad and sad as this expert draws for us, the maydauns would have been flooded for a long time and the striped ones would fit in. Ah no! Fearfully.
  17. +1
    4 December 2017 12: 21
    why would anyone attack the Crimea ... the territory has no strategic value, but the fleet can maneuver ...
    1. +2
      4 December 2017 12: 27
      ABOUT! Yes, you are a brilliant strategist! And the fact that from the Crimea you can shoot a boat in the Bosphorus does not matter. And the fact that the flight time to the Navy bases on the Black Sea coast of Romania is minimally nonsense. And for kim, excuse me, the screw, minke whales wanted so much and now they want to take root in Crimea. There is no strategic value.
      1. +1
        4 December 2017 15: 46
        Quote: Jackyun
        And the fact that from the Crimea you can shoot a boat in the Bosphorus does not matter

        The Black Sea is controlled by the one in whose hands the Bosphorus and the Dardanelles. This is the inland sea. The entrance to the Danube is not very important for the EU (and to be in Ukraine and Romania). So from any site you can shoot a boat in Istanbul-Sevastopol, Odessa, or somewhere else ... The sea is not big by hearing.
  18. 0
    4 December 2017 12: 36
    Nobody will attack Crimea, having the Donbass problem, attack Transnistria, de jure is still part of Moldova, all the more so. But they can divert attention with a threat to the Crimea, and they can strike at the "rebellious Ukrainian regions".
    1. +3
      4 December 2017 12: 48
      Let me ask someone who can? Maydaunas? These can, with a known outcome. Stripes fit? No. This is an unacceptable loss of infantry for them. Voters will not understand. Striped axes? But it is only sea based. In this case, the Russians can take launches at their own expense with all the consequences. Deployment of ground systems? But what about the farts at the UN. They won’t understand again. If they could, they would have climbed long ago. And so is the wedge everywhere. And the farther the thicker. And the seat, it’s not rubber, even with Lyashka.
  19. 0
    4 December 2017 12: 57
    Quote: svp67
    Quote: Krasnyiy komissar
    should mean only one thing - the beginning of a global thermonuclear meat grinder until the enemy is completely destroyed.

    We then understand that this will be the END of today's civilization, but "on the other side" they believe in the possibility of conducting a limited nuclear war and the power of the "first global strike"



    If only the world behind the scenes has no plans to strengthen, for example, the Latin American state. A few more collapsed nations will go down in history, new spaces will occupy.
  20. +1
    4 December 2017 15: 25
    The fatal mistake of countries undergoing missile attacks is not weak air defense. rather than striking delivery vehicles. aerodromes. sea vessels, etc. It’s easier to destroy airfields and ships with calibers and Iskanders! You must ALWAYS be the first to beat !!
  21. +2
    4 December 2017 15: 58
    The delirium of the couch warriors, everything was gone, everything was gone. If you do not own the question, then do not meddle with your sofa nonsense.
  22. 0
    4 December 2017 16: 17
    Why do they need Crimea, it’s better to hit Moscow. Svidomna climb crowds? This is unscientific fiction, so many suicides will not be typed even there.
  23. 0
    4 December 2017 18: 31
    Quote: andrewkor
    In my wondrous opinion, an attack on the Crimea is unlikely, it must be completely scumbag without any brakes! Which does not mean the removal of tension and the reduction of combat readiness. But the attack on Transnistria from all sides is more than expected!

    Somehow, in the heat of publications, they forget that Transnistria is a UN mandated territory with UN peacekeepers there and violation of the UN Security Council decision is fraught, and there is no sense either in Ukraine or even in Moldova. The rest is the vicious fart of magazines from both sides according to the manuals of Soros.
  24. 0
    4 December 2017 18: 33
    Quote: ausmel
    The delirium of the couch warriors, everything was gone, everything was gone. If you do not own the question, then do not meddle with your sofa nonsense.

    This is not nonsense .... This is a trap set for suckers, who will rush to share everything they see and bring in the beak what the customers of the article need. I’ve been looking at all this for a long time. It's like a husband returns from a business trip and at the porch's door on the bench - Zdarovo sluts !!! They are in response - are we whores? !!!! Yes, yours .... and panesla ...
  25. 0
    4 December 2017 19: 10
    Quote: Krasnyiy komissar
    Aircraft shot down before, especially a lot - during the Korean War. There was no escalation, as battles were fought over third-party territory. The attack on the Crimea with the use of hundreds of missiles is the beginning of 3MB, which will certainly be nuclear.

    A W MV does not suit anyone
  26. +1
    4 December 2017 19: 21
    Quote: tchoni
    Let me remind you that the downing of a Russian combat aircraft by the Turkish Air Force led the leash to the "tomato war"

    Do you want a real war? We must pay tribute to our analysts: everything was calculated correctly and the result was obvious: the Sultan is almost an ally in Syria
  27. 0
    4 December 2017 19: 28
    "the trouble will start if the assistant starts to move the boots", and couch strategists manage the General Staff
  28. 0
    4 December 2017 19: 45
    I read the entire publication, I thought, why did the author (or the channel) need to place a narrowly focused analysis of the specialist in the direction of missile defense as part of air defense systems, if he doesn’t at all talk about the country's defense capabilities. He wants to be smart and supplement himself as a new candidate of some sciences, forgetting that CRIMEA is Russia and never being at the level of those who are in the country's defense management trying to prove himself so smart. What blows, what other, possibly used systems, can fall upon my head if the entire defense complex is not available to us. Which one? This is elementary. Surface-atmosphere-space. Or we on the Web will continue to “convincingly” prove our “moronity”. Yes God is with you! Continue, if you have the idea that the defense of a country like Russia with its most powerful racial and unique ingenuity, readiness to give to the snout of anyone who asks for it ... Yes! We have enough of everything: territories, fossils, energy reserves, we live as far as we can from Hollywood. True, we have one-girls on the sidelines. So they will take machine guns in their hands to protect their charisma. We received a little on the left cheek, now on the right. We will still receive, thanks to our official from the "people's" defenders. Sorry, tired of moronism. By the way, with respect to any opinion. Not at the state level. I was not there. Sincerely.
  29. +1
    4 December 2017 20: 28
    Meanwhile, the real situation with the attack on the Shairat airbase is an iron confirmation of all of the above. And this is only 200 "Axes" as an example, while a full-fledged strike by the NATO Navy may be accompanied by the launch of 300 or more cruise and anti-radar missiles.

    In a year under a thousand axes fly? Or five THOUSAND !!!! Sense to read your wonderful crafts? I have a son in a bear’s kindergarten believable portrays what you state the facts.
  30. 0
    5 December 2017 17: 20
    Quote: Fulcrum29
    First, do not be afraid of numbers, and learn to analyze what is happening, taking into account the number of units and their performance characteristics. Otherwise, any analyst turns into the tales of grandfather Panas. Military-technical prognostics without numbers is nothing. Secondly, learn to read carefully:

    "And this is just one complete volley of the destroyer of the URO class“ Arleigh Burke ”and the shock modification (SSGN) of the Ohio strategic class submarine cruiser, whose 22 mine launchers are adapted to use the 154“ Tomahawks ”instead of the Trident-2D5 XBTM . "

    We are talking about a joint salvo of “Arley Burke” (90 cells UVPU Mk 41, not 100, about 60 of which hold containers of the shock version under the “Axes” Mk 14 mod 0/1) and the shock version of the SSBN “Ohio” (154 cells under "Tomahawks")

    I’m not afraid of numbers, but Eugene’s corporate style has been “filling up” readers with a ton of details, sometimes unnecessary. At the same time, the same graphic material in the form of maps is not used at all, for that matter. Therefore, articles become unreadable.
    I admit my carelessness. I really missed the letter in the phrase "burke" and "ohio." And this is not surprising. If the launch of the Tomahawks in the Crimea from the Black Sea from the Berka can still be imagined, but the launch of one and a half hundred of the same missiles from the Ohio is difficult. Firstly, it is difficult to think that it will calmly pass through the straits, going unnoticed. Or will shoot from the Mediterranean?
  31. 0
    6 December 2017 21: 54
    SRZO Smerch, Hurricane and others. It is easier to destroy the launchers than to shoot down their missiles.
  32. 0
    8 December 2017 09: 08
    The author, answer - why NE Russia? There are Russian Armed Forces (armed forces). Or Russia is fighting the SV wagons)?
  33. +1
    10 December 2017 12: 59
    The USA is a very smart, cunning and treacherous enemy! Do not count them as fools! We must prepare for the worst. They will find a simple and reliable way to overcome any of our missile defense, any of our military tricks. They have no money for this! The United States has a TR-3B that is invisible to radars that are not affected by electronic warfare systems, a secret hypersonic aircraft, acceleration at launch from 5 km per second, cruising from 20 km per second. Controls gravity and inertia. Controls the flow around. Our hypersonic Zircons and other aircraft will not catch up with him, and even out of touch are not suitable for this aircraft, which can deliver nuclear charges from the border to Moscow in 50-100 seconds, with maneuvering! Air defense and missile defense do not see the TR-3B and its multiple modifications. “This technique hits from above, from space, with hypersonic speed. Our missile defense systems simply will not see and do not even have time to react. 20-30 TR-3B devices will destroy any country in 10-15 minutes! The United States already has a whole secret army of such equipment. But our politicians and the military believe that UFOs fly over the Russian Federation and over other countries! You offer them such technology and better, they refuse, they are stupid! They don’t understand anything at all in physics! Mediocre, stupid zeros, damn it! And who entrusted them to work as top bureaucrats? Now the United States is flying over the DPRK. What are they waiting for. They probably want to get by with minimal losses, first destroy the DPRK leadership. Do it right.
    1. +8
      10 December 2017 13: 20
      Quote: VladVlad
      Air defense and missile defense do not see the TR-3B and its multiple modifications

      If no one sees him, then he is most likely simply not in nature Yes
  34. 0
    10 December 2017 23: 48
    Well, the halls will have to be done from long distances, from smaller ones they will be kamikaze ships ... + you need to take into account the air defense of the Black Sea Fleet, and not just the coastal air defense system. Well, in the event of a conflict, I think the strike groups will also be under the gun at the time of launch.
  35. 0
    17 December 2017 10: 33
    Where does this constant "competent" opinion about the launch range of the AIM-120D come from as much as 120km ??? A maximum of 60-75, if there are competent aviation / rocket engineers on the forum, they will confirm that sofa experts with opinions from the "wiki" and mattress covers advertising booklets do not count. Well, and most importantly, as an aviation squadron I say, it’s not necessary to hit individual missiles while chasing a swarm, but to destroy carriers before they approach the air-defense system. In Soviet times, with the most powerful anti-aircraft defense, no forces were enough to run around for a separate missile defense system. And the country's air defense objectives have not changed.

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