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Which crown you try on in Israel: American or North Korean?

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Interesting events take place in Syria. No, today it’s not about the defeat of the next followers of ISIL (banned in the Russian Federation), not about the return of refugees to their own homes in 4 during the war. Not even about militants who crawl like worms across neighboring countries with the help of "fighters against terrorism". There are plenty of such materials today. Yes, and war correspondents work in all the hot spots of Syria.




Today I want to consider another aspect of the problem. And it is connected with our "friends" Israelis. Probably, readers immediately have a reasonable question: why are "friends" in quotes? Relations between our countries are smooth. Neither Russia nor Israel spoke negatively about each other. Yes, and the people of Israel all these years, that there was a war, did not express the slightest desire to get involved in a fight.

This is about "its" war, which is leading Israel in Syria.

Until recently, all the attacks of the Israelis caused not so much disgust, as understanding. A people who is in constant tension from the neighborhood with not too adequate nationalist and religious groups, have the right to respond to any blow to their own territory and to their own citizens. And these answers should be tough enough to discourage the next fighters for something there.

However, in the course of their fight against terrorism, the Israelis believed in their uniqueness.

To illustrate this thesis, we present one statement:

“Now that the IG has been crushed, we see the following picture. Iran’s coming Islamic State is replacing Iran. Iran represents another brand of barbarous Islamist ideology. This is Islamic extremism that threatens both Muslims and representatives of other religions.”

This is not said political scientist or expert. This is a statement by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. A statement that leads to strange thoughts. If Israel is seriously concerned about the fight against terrorism around the world, then why did the Israelis not participate in the defeat of the "Islamic State"?

It is not entirely clear what and when Israel defeated ISIS.

If Israel is so concerned about its own security and peace on the border with the Arab states, then why is it directly threatening these states?

With all due respect to the armed forces of Israel, the neighbors whom he threatens have also learned something and have quite modern weapon to fight the Israeli army. Do not understand this in Tel Aviv can not. What is the reason for the statement of the Prime Minister of Israel?

On the one hand, it is clear that the strengthening of Iran and Syria really causes concern among the Israelis. Accustomed to impunity, they first encountered the possibility of a response.

An example is the latest rocket attack on Syrian territory. Everything is done, to be honest and straightforward, it’s a mess. From a foreign territory, without a declaration of war, on the territory of a sovereign state ...

Moreover, and this is probably the most important thing, it was not done in response to the shelling. Just so decided the leadership of the country and the army.

And then something incomprehensible for Tel Aviv happened. The rockets began to shoot down. Not all yet. But shoot down. The signal is clear enough for Israel. And it will be absolutely not surprising if the next time the Syrians do not just intercept missiles over their territory, they send missiles back. But their own. And on the territory of Israel.

And what, all according to Israeli canons: respond to aggression, no matter what. You can beat on any bases, if the Israeli intelligence says that this is a terrorist base. And why this rule can not be adopted by the neighbors?

"The air defenses have repelled them and destroyed two targets. The attacked positions suffered material damage. This is a blatant attack."

This, by the way, is the official statement of the Syrian leadership. And we doubt that someone will challenge him. And now let's imagine what will happen to Israel if Syria and Iran respond. But not mirror, but in full. It is clear that all these famous missile defense and air defense systems, which cover Israel today, will “catch” most of the missiles. It is the majority! And those that fly by? Yes on the territory with a high population density?

Today, Israeli diplomacy is trying by hook or by crook to create a kind of coalition against Damascus and Tehran. About this, in particular, said Israeli Defense Minister Avigdor Lieberman:

"The Arab countries are not ready for open interaction with Israel, fearing the discontent of their own public more than the threat from Iran."

However, as can be seen from this quote, there is no success in this direction yet. In the Arab world, discontent with Tel Aviv permissiveness is growing. Governments are really afraid of an alliance with the Israelis under the threat of a revolution or a coup d'état.

But it seems to be understandable. Permissiveness is an unpleasant thing. When missiles fly in response to shots from Syria, everything is more or less clear. And the approach of Israel is quite possible to take. Your territory is your problem. Understand with those who kolobrodit there, or we figure it out.

But rocket launches from Israeli aircraft that were in Lebanese airspace are less well understood. Trusov it looks like, to be honest.

And the reason for the shelling as if he still. There is no evidence that those where the missiles were flying were those for whom they were intended. Familiar handwriting - "we decided, we hit."

Even, excuse me, the tube with the green liquid was not waved.

The main ally of the Jewish state, from whose actions all this is copied, today, to put it mildly, is losing credibility in the Arab world. Americans may slowly, but crawl away from this region. And again the question arises: why go for direct confrontation? Why risk a new Arab-Israeli war?

The answer, in our opinion, lies in another recent quotation from the Israeli prime minister:

"We will not allow the Iranian regime, obsessed with the destruction of the Jewish state, to acquire nuclear weapons. We will not allow this regime to gain a foothold militarily in Syria, to which it seems to be striving with the stated goal of eradicating our state."

Old song? Maybe. Especially in light of all the statements of Iran to cease development of nuclear weapons. No associations arise? In particular, with the USA or North Korea? Does Netanyuhu want to take Kim Jong-un's place in the region? What is the difference of action? The same blackmail as that of the DPRK, the same implementation of “hotchunks” as in the USA.

The only difference is that the United States has a cudgel, and North Korea has a cudgel. But there is a difference: the North Korean president is demonstrating it, emphasizing that in the event of aggression, he will share both the southern neighbor and Japan. Keyword: in case of aggression.

It's harder with Israel. Either they have nuclear weapons, or there is none ... Yes, it is clear that there is. "Tilke Trocs and for myself." There are no doubts, there are enough smart and intelligent people in Israel.

The question is: if Syria and Iran start not only to shoot down Israeli rockets, but also give an otvetka according to the Israeli example, what's next?

Whatever happens next, the position of Israel raises serious questions for everyone around them. The right to appoint enemies, the right to kill citizens of other states on the territory of these states, the right to determine who is right and who is wrong, the right to be right ...

And why on earth? Who gave this right to Israel? Who defined Tel Aviv as the center of the world? No, it is clear that, following the example of the United States, they themselves wanted and appointed. But it looks ugly.

Exactly ugly looks and the appointment of Iran to the role of the enemy, which urgently needs to zapinivat in a corner, so that he did not get up on his hind legs.

Undoubtedly, the words of President Ahmadinejad and the generals of the IRGC, transparently hinting that according to all their notions Israel should be wiped off the face of the earth, had to be. But words are words, and rockets are rockets.

Somewhat vague situation. It is clear that it is unlikely to lead to another big regional war, but nevertheless. The path will first end the war with ISIS for a start. And then you can think about who will be the sheriff in the region.

The haste with which the sheriff's star tries to try on Israel, makes you wonder. As well as ways to implement this project.
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  1. Primoos
    Primoos 4 December 2017 06: 10
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    Well why are you so? Israel has invested his soul in ISIS, and you ask if he fought with him? Israel and LIH, it companions. One thing they do is one interests, one goals, one methods.
    1. Viktorfi
      Viktorfi 4 December 2017 08: 23
      +8
      Judging by what you wrote, and you wrote nonsense without any evidence, you have one thing, one methods and one interests with low-level propagandists negative
      1. Shironay
        Shironay 4 December 2017 09: 44
        15
        Dear Roman, after the tragedy that occurred with our people in the 40s of the last century, we made two important conclusions for ourselves:
        the first is to rely solely on safety in matters of security.
        Second, if someone in the world declares a desire to destroy the Jews, believe in the seriousness of his intentions immediately and unconditionally and act accordingly. It is with these two principles that the last bombardment of the Iranian base is connected. And the most interesting: Russia has not condemned us. And you know why? Because she herself is not interested in strengthening Iran in Syria.
        1. Krabik
          Krabik 4 December 2017 13: 07
          23
          Something you replay a little darling.

          Where, then, is your struggle against Americanism that hid the leaders of Germany after the defeat in its territory?

          And this taking into account that the British intelligence led to Hitler’s power, where is your struggle with England, which personally put its agent in power in Germany and unleashed a war with the Soviet Union?

          Well, about the exclusivity, the comrades here nobly joked, only such exceptional ones could have been led through the desert for 40 years and they were satisfied with Moses.

          Well, or go into the American orbit of influence after the Holocaust, which the Anglo-Saxons provoked ...
          1. Starik72
            Starik72 4 December 2017 23: 18
            +5
            Krabik. Look when YOUR opponents have registered for VO. These are obvious Israeli trolls, and apparently paid. Look at how many so-called pluses it delivered. So do not pay attention to them, and they will disappear.
        2. NEXUS
          NEXUS 4 December 2017 14: 30
          15
          Quote: Shiryonay
          the first is to rely solely on safety in matters of security.

          How does your thesis fit with the fact that your aviation strikes against the objects of a neighboring state, destroying the citizens of this state? In fact, these steps are nothing more than a tacit declaration of war on both Syria and Iran. And if so, then do not be surprised if the answer soon arrives from that side.
          How would you react if Iran would say from time to time, exclusively thinking about its national security issue, that it would begin to strike at an object in Israel? I do not think that you would be delighted. So from what vegetable should the Syrians or Iranians like that you, having designated them as enemies, regularly bomb and iron missiles?
          1. Shironay
            Shironay 4 December 2017 21: 00
            +3
            Nexus, there’s such a thing ... Unlike Iran, we in no way deny Iran’s right to exist. Our only interest is not to give the Iranian ayatollahs the opportunity to destroy us. And for this we are ready to endure the anger and displeasure of the Nexus, Rotmistra, Meehan and other respected members of the forum.
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS 4 December 2017 21: 11
              +5
              Quote: Shiryonay
              Nexus, there’s such a thing ... Unlike Iran, we in no way deny Iran’s right to exist. Our only interest is not to give the Iranian ayatollahs the opportunity to destroy us. And for this we are ready to endure the anger and displeasure of the Nexus, Rotmistra, Meehan and other respected members of the forum.

              And then the anger, dear? You launch missile strikes against Iran and Syria, knowing for sure that the answer will not arrive. And you have a guarantee - this is not only a strong army, support for the United States, but also the presence of nuclear weapons. In fact, you are kicking a knowingly weak. And if Iran suddenly has nuclear weapons then what will you do? And what will your beloved US say so to you?
              1. Shahno
                Shahno 4 December 2017 21: 34
                +2
                Well, we are very similar. In addition to US support. Sorry so happened, do not refuse the same. And Syria is as weak as Ukraine, but it spoiled so many nerves. Until now, we can’t sign the world.
                1. NEXUS
                  NEXUS 4 December 2017 21: 57
                  +7
                  Quote: Shahno
                  And Syria is as weak as Ukraine

                  Ukraine is our people and our land ... but excuse me, how lateral are you to Syria? You don’t live in peace ... you’ll curse Hezbollah all the way ... now Jerusalem is recognizing Trumpka as the Israeli capital. I have a question for you, a pure curiosity to quench-A Muzzle will not crack, and the back will not stick together?
                  1. Shahno
                    Shahno 4 December 2017 22: 22
                    +1
                    Nah, everything's fine. The Syrians, by the way, do not consider the enemy of the Jews. Well, at least certain clans. My second brothers live there. Well, alive for now. Politicians but it’s their bread. So the brothers are kind of. Once a year they visited before the war
              2. Shironay
                Shironay 4 December 2017 21: 41
                +2
                Nexus, please excuse us for being stronger than Syria and Iran. It happened. as I told you about security, we rely only on ourselves (not on American friends, and not on Russian partners). Please forgive us for the fact that we won all the Arab-Israeli wars, but we had no other choice. I apologize in advance for future victories (if God forbid there will be a war)
                1. NEXUS
                  NEXUS 4 December 2017 21: 54
                  +8
                  Quote: Shiryonay
                  Nexus, please excuse us for being stronger than Syria and Iran.

                  Yes, God will excuse you, and then he will catch up, and again will excuse. But why bomb and rockets at Syrians and Iranians? Apparently from a big and pure love of justice.
                  Moreover, when your citizens are being killed, you are yelling about justice, but when you are killing Iranians, Syrians in batches, this is called your own interests.
                  Isn't the CHITROZAD HAVE SET UP, dear descendants of Moses?
                  Quote: Shiryonay
                  I apologize in advance for future victories (if God forbid there will be a war)

                  Well, well ... I’ll listen to you a little later, when Iran, suddenly, unexpectedly, has nuclear weapons. Then the Persians will apologize for everything.
                  1. Shironay
                    Shironay 4 December 2017 22: 04
                    +2
                    Nexus, as it has been said many times: Israel will not allow the appearance of Iran’s nuclear weapons. They did not allow Iraq and Syria in their heyday: Iran did not allow it either. If anything, I will receive an order from the Foreign Ministry and from the bottom of my heart I will apologize to you and the Rotmistr. Do not be angry with us, Nexus ... We are the only Western country that has not voted in the UN against Russia and has not supported the sanctions. Do you really deserve your sympathy?
                    1. NEXUS
                      NEXUS 4 December 2017 22: 07
                      +4
                      Quote: Shiryonay
                      They did not allow Iraq and Syria in their heyday: Iran did not allow it either.

                      But at the same time it’s somehow not shameful to have nuclear weapons themselves? ... so I’m talking about that, CHITROZADO!
                      Quote: Shiryonay
                      not voted in the UN against Russia and did not support sanctions.

                      Of course you deserve ... I will say more, my coach was a Jew. And you vote because of us, and not against, because unlike the entire enlightened European community, you have a good memory and remember well who actually turned the head of the Third Reich.
                      1. Shironay
                        Shironay 4 December 2017 23: 54
                        +2
                        You see ... Therefore, dear Nexus, do not scold us so heavily on VO, here your president and the Foreign Ministry have no complaints against us. Because we are allies in this matter. Iran is Russia's rival in influence in Syria, and our actions objectively contribute to the strengthening of Russia in Syria
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      2. Primoos
        Primoos 4 December 2017 11: 14
        +9
        Quote: Viktorfi
        Judging by what you wrote, and you wrote nonsense without any evidence, you have one thing, one methods and one interests with low-level propagandists negative

        To say that this is all rubbish is not enough. Refute! Where is your evidence? I see what I sing. Here are my proofs! Come on, Jew, refute if you consider yourself smart.
        1. parma
          parma 4 December 2017 12: 58
          +2
          But where is your evidence? I've always been taught that if you prove a theory, you first bring FACTS AND EVIDENCE ...
        2. Tramp1812
          Tramp1812 4 December 2017 13: 08
          +5
          It would be possible to refute. But the whole question is what to refute when you have not brought a single, not a single fact to be refuted. Something I can say the same in relation to ISIS, but instead of Israel, put, say, the Republic of Chad . Moreover, in the text I will not change a single word, only the name of the country. I have one question for you: where did you get the idea that Israel is behind ISIS? I will answer: you wanted it so much, from the beginning and not at all. Not a single country in the world, including the Russian Federation, has ever claimed anything like this. Only you and your similar characters. Not serious.
          1. Primoos
            Primoos 4 December 2017 20: 46
            +1
            Quote: Rogue1812
            It would be possible to refute. But the whole question is what to refute when you have not brought a single, not a single fact to be refuted. Something I can say the same in relation to ISIS, but instead of Israel, put, say, the Republic of Chad . Moreover, in the text I will not change a single word, only the name of the country. I have one question for you: where did you get the idea that Israel is behind ISIS? I will answer: you wanted it so much, from the beginning and not at all. Not a single country in the world, including the Russian Federation, has ever claimed anything like this. Only you and your similar characters. Not serious.

            Zhvanetsky. Chatterbox. Immediately became not interesting. I do not like Zhvanetsky.
      3. NEXUS
        NEXUS 4 December 2017 15: 04
        +9
        Quote: Viktorfi
        Judging by what you wrote, and you wrote nonsense without any evidence, you have one thing, one methods and one interests with low-level propagandists negative

        And so let’s ... there are Israelis, Iranians and Syrians ... Israel has armed forces and nuclear weapons. Plus support for the US and all this rabble of vassals. Based on all this, Israel, for some reason, decided that he acts in the same region as the messiah, punishing the righteous rockets and bombs of those who do not live as they should, according to the Israelis.
        At the same time, no one is waiting for an answer in Israel. But if Iran, suddenly, following the example of Un, shows its ICBM, or at least a medium-range tactical missile with nuclear warheads, then all the bombing and missile attacks will cease immediately. Tk is stupid to run up where you can get in response to erysipelas.
      4. Sergey53
        Sergey53 4 December 2017 15: 26
        +2
        As you can understand with the evidence you have no tension. They are simply not necessary for you. You are sure, you know, they said it, etc. You remind me of a “Judge in a Joke” sentenced by a man to a term for rape. A man says that he sees her for the first time, And the judge turns on the logic for him: do you drink tea? drink. Go to the toilet? I go. Do you have a member? yes. And if there is, then you could have raped her? could. So guilty.
      5. Private61
        Private61 6 December 2017 04: 48
        0
        True eyes hurts?
    2. parma
      parma 4 December 2017 09: 11
      11
      Can I have proof? and not in the style of our MO with pictures from games for phones! (I won’t accept games from other platforms either!) "Poor Syria, everyone offends" already tired! The Syrians themselves started almost all the wars against Israel, they themselves refuse to sign a peace treaty, and they themselves support Hezbalah (ter. Organization not prohibited in the Russian Federation), knowing what kind of reaction the neighbor will have .. Regarding Iran, I’m not so sure that Iranian influence is There is something good in our country, even though the Persians are trying to become a regional superpower, now they have rivals in the CA under the auspices of the USA, and then? Who was Iran against during the Afghan war? Whom did the USSR support in the Iraq-Iran war? While in BV, as in the true pit with snakes, there were 2 large players - Israel and the SA, everything was relatively calm (the last 30 years), and what would result in the emergence of a new force, and even with ambitions like Iran, it is scary to think .. So far, from the wars in Iraq and Syria are not won primarily by the United States, as is customary here, the Iranians!
      1. just exp
        just exp 4 December 2017 09: 36
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        it may be enough to impersonate a Russian already, I'm sorry, but your nationality is visible in your post. and stop trying to instill in Russians the opinion that Russian interests should be more important to Russians than their own interests.
        if you think that Israel and Syria are not offended and are not involved in ISIS, explain plz why Israel bombed not only Iranians and hezbalons, but also ordinary Syrian troops that iron the bearded. why ISIS makes terrorist attacks everywhere, from the states, then Naglia and Frenchland, even reached the Philippines and Indonesia. but for some reason, they don’t touch Israel at all, hated by all Arabs (which, logically, should be the first to suffer, however .....)?
        1. parma
          parma 4 December 2017 09: 56
          +9
          Do not believe me, I'm Russian, at least the last 3 generations of my family about which I know were exclusively Russian!
          Speak terrorist attacks do not commit? Are you sure? You did not hear about attacks with knives on passers-by that year? only on the box showed about 5 or 6 cases! By the way, there have been no terrorist attacks in Russia for a long time either (and thank God!), So do we also support ISIS?
          I am not saying that we should take care of the interests of Israel, not of ours. But the question is, are you sure that the influence of Iran in the region is better for us than say Israel? Why are representatives of our Ministry of Defense talking about attacks on the SAA, and after the Israeli Air Force provides information about the target in the form of citizens with a black or yellow flag, the conversation comes to naught? If there is iron evidence that terrorists are being treated in Israel, and not semi-legally, but at the direction of the state, show how much you can "I KNOW THIS SO!" shout? You know, after pearls such as a bearded column from a mobile game or a video of the Mi / KA-64 (I'm talking about the "Russified" Apache) in the hands of the president, I no longer believe in such screams ..
          1. just exp
            just exp 4 December 2017 10: 26
            19
            Well, the daughter of an officer was also Crimean.
            and about terrorist attacks with knives, this is precisely in Russia, in Surgut it was the last.
            and besides this there were subversions in the subway (Peter, for example), if you really were Russian from Russia, you would know about them (even if I, who haven't watched TV for 10 years, know), and not about attacks with a knife in Israel (and were they at all?)
            and tell us more about the info about targets with black flags? otherwise I didn’t hear that Israel would bomb the igilatina with the nusra (they have black flags, they are yellow for Hizbalons, Iran has IRIS in general) and the last time they bombed the SAA. yes and what would the Russian Defense Ministry if it were against this.
            tell me honestly, but you are not intentionally cunning here? or just by naivety are you spreading a foreign misinformation here?
            and the content of your post once again shows that you are not a citizen of the Russian Federation, you operate on pro-Western data, ignoring and criticizing Russian data.
            1. parma
              parma 4 December 2017 11: 10
              +4
              The attack with a knife in Surgut is not recognized as a terrorist attack (as well as a ramming with a loaf loaded with cylinders with gas from the cinema in our city of Yekaterinburg, how much is correct, or is there no question for the investigating authorities) today! Yes, there was a terrorist attack in St. Petersburg, I don’t argue, but after that there were no terrorist attacks officially (and again, thank God)! In Israel, more than 2016 terrorist attacks occurred in 140 (although Jews in the country since the beginning of the 2000s have 100+ terrorist attacks and attacks a year already)! Yes, not all of them were committed by ISIS, but this "good" is enough there ...
              Regarding airstrikes, it is precisely that our MO was not even officially indignant about the bombing! It’s kind of strange with the media at all, that with the VADA of this (where is the material, real evidence that the athletes didn’t take anything, where are the samples?), That with the Americans in Syria (where is the evidence of the export of the fighters, data from radar / satellites, systems identification?), what about Israeli strikes (where is the evidence of attacks on the SAA, where are the wreckage of missiles / planes supposedly shot down?) .. Rather, there are no problems with media, they say something, they write, but in the evidence there’s either pearl or nothing non-proof evidence or none at all ...
              1. kiril-belo
                kiril-belo 4 December 2017 19: 09
                +2
                about the terrorist attack in St. Petersburg can not be mentioned, as a show of pure water. And about attacks with knives in the media in the Russian Federation this will not be missed. There is no information from ordinary people and bloggers - the media will remain silent. This is so by the way. But your position is still not clear.
          2. just exp
            just exp 4 December 2017 10: 26
            +7
            and, freshman granted, of course, are preparing for the presidential election. here excuse me, I have no more questions about what claims to Internet bots might be.
          3. stone
            stone 4 December 2017 11: 00
            +2
            Speak correctly and in Russia there are many who think so. And mentally, Israel is closer and more understandable to the Russians, it’s easy to verify this. It’s enough to visit there at least once.
            1. just exp
              just exp 4 December 2017 12: 57
              +8
              Israel is mentally closer to us, since the Jews who lived there, including ours, live there.
              but who is closer to Israel is the second question, and yes, you can get the answer "It is enough to visit there at least once." The states are closer to Israel.
              and when Israel has a choice between the states and the Russian Federation, Russia will become a forest.
              Do not chase after those who do not need you, and think about those who cannot live without you.
          4. Alber
            Alber 4 December 2017 14: 30
            +4
            Quote: parma
            ... I am Russian, at least the last 3 generations of my family that I know about were exclusively Russian


            Hm! )) the last three "exclusively Russian" from Odessa import. and who do not know? Definitely the older generation you come from the promised land
        2. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 4 December 2017 10: 06
          +6
          Quote: just EXPL
          it may be enough to impersonate a Russian already, I'm sorry, but your nationality is visible in your post. and stop trying to instill in Russians the opinion that Russian interests should be more important to Russians than their own interests.
          if you think that Israel and Syria are not offended and are not involved in ISIS, explain plz why Israel bombed not only Iranians and hezbalons, but also ordinary Syrian troops that iron the bearded. why ISIS makes terrorist attacks everywhere, from the states, then Naglia and Frenchland, even reached the Philippines and Indonesia. but for some reason, they don’t touch Israel at all, hated by all Arabs (which, logically, should be the first to suffer, however .....)?

          I am a Jew, I lived in Israel for 25 years, I know both the Russian Federation and the Promised.
          Nobody imposes Israeli interests on Russians - relations between the countries are good and okay.
          IS, Assad, Iran, Hezbollah are the same for Israel.
          IS received from Israel - in November last year, they tried to shell soldiers in the Golan Heights and were destroyed.
          Then the Jews bombed their base.
          From Sinai, ISIS fired on Israel - Jews attacked them from drones.
          And recently there was a scandal - Trump leaked Lavrov details of the Israeli special forces operation against Daesh in Syria. (Capture of the BB laboratory)
          If the IG goes on a major terrorist attack - Israel has 26 special forces, cruise missiles and about 400 aircraft of 4 generations. Moreover, Pts are close to the Terrorug geographically.
          Mujahideen know this and sit quietly.
          Syria has been at war with Israel since 1948, Assad fights not only with the Islamic State, but also with the bearded and the Ishilov’s successfully cutting, so everything is not so simple there.
          1. just exp
            just exp 4 December 2017 15: 40
            11
            pancake . even no words.
            not a damn thing the reason why the IG does not touch Israel. it turns out that Israel bombed their base, but, now, Russian fools destroyed a couple of thousand bases, warehouses, headquarters and training camps, and they continue to fight. it was necessary to do like Israel, to bomb just one base, and after that the IS would immediately lay down their arms.
      2. jhltyjyjctw
        jhltyjyjctw 21 December 2017 09: 56
        0
        Quote: parma
        not in the style of our MO with pictures from games for phones!


        A very difficult case of transcendental prostration and the wandering of the mind in search of truth
    3. A. Privalov
      A. Privalov 4 December 2017 11: 39
      +3
      Quote: Primoos
      Well why are you so? Israel has invested his soul in ISIS, and you ask if he fought with him? Israel and LIH, it companions. One thing they do is one interests, one goals, one methods.

      Israel has put its heart, and according to the security forces of the Russian Federation, about 4 thousands of Russian citizens are fighting in the ranks of ISIL (an organization whose activities are banned in the Russian Federation).
      Details: https://regnum.ru/news/2332232.html
      Over 5, thousands of citizens from Russia and Central Asian countries are fighting on the side of the IG, the FSB said.
      According to the ministry, a little less than half of them - 2400 people - are citizens of the Russian Federation, said First Deputy Director of the FSB Army General Sergei Smirnov after a meeting of the Council of the Regional Antiterrorist Structure of the SCO in Tashkent.
      Jihad and big politics: who benefits from the Islamic State
      "According to our information, the order of 2400 citizens of the Russian Federation are already participating in the activities of this organization, and this is quite a large number," he stressed. On the eve of the Interior Minister Vladimir Kolokoltsev said that on the side of the IG 1,8 fighting thousands of Russian citizens. "According to the calculations of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, 1,8 thousand Russians are fighting in the ranks of ISIS. 477 criminal proceedings have been initiated," he said.
      According to Smirnov, the recruitment of citizens of different countries, including those belonging to the SCO, is one of the greatest dangers on the part of the Islamic State. “The most dangerous recruitment of persons from these states is the departure of this grouping to the territory of hostilities, participation in them, training, preparation and the subsequent return to the territory of our states,” Smirnov said.
      More on TASS:
      http://tass.ru/politika/2272750


      Russian security services for the first time recognized the participation of citizens in the Syrian conflict on the side of radical Islamists back in June 2013 - then FSB director Alexander Bortnikov spoke about 200 Russian militants fighting "under the banner of Al-Qaida" (banned in Russia) and other affiliated structures ".
      Since the start of the Russian anti-terrorism campaign in Syria 30 September 2015, the number of Russians fighting for the Islamic State has almost doubled. In September, the Interior Ministry reported 2015 to the Russians among the militants on 1800, and in March, the department already talked about the 2016 Russians in the terrorist group. According to the source of "Medusa" in the power structures, there are at least five thousand Russians in the IG.
      There are Russians in the ranks of other Islamist groups - Front-en-Nusra (banned in Russia) and Jaysh-al-Mukhadzhirin Val-Ansar. They are still about a thousand immigrants from Russia. It can be said without a doubt that the Russian language among the terrorists in Syria has become one of the three main (along with Arabic and English).
      In November, 2015, the Prosecutor General, Yuri Chaika, announced 650 criminal cases involving the participation of Russians in illegal armed groups abroad. In March 2016, Chaika already spoke about 1000 of such criminal cases. https://meduza.io/feature/2016/03/28/rossiyane-pr
      otiv-rossiyan-v-sirii
      1. andj61
        andj61 4 December 2017 16: 03
        +2
        Quote: A. Privalov
        Quote: Primoos
        Well why are you so? Israel has invested his soul in ISIS, and you ask if he fought with him? Israel and LIH, it companions. One thing they do is one interests, one goals, one methods.
        Israel has put its heart, and according to the security forces of the Russian Federation, about 4 thousands of Russian citizens are fighting in the ranks of ISIL (an organization whose activities are banned in the Russian Federation).

        So in Israel itself there are many terrorists: some citizens of one nationality kill citizens of another nationality in various ways - they cut with knives, crush with cars, etc. But the fact that some citizens are terrorists does not mean at all that the state supports terrorism ...
        Yes, and 4 immigrants from Russia will not be enough. Kadyrov recently stated that only from Chechnya there will be from 000 to 3 thousand such shaitans, and from all over the North Caucasus there will be 4. And from other regions they are full. hi
      2. jhltyjyjctw
        jhltyjyjctw 21 December 2017 09: 59
        0
        Quote: A. Privalov
        Israel has put its heart, and according to the security forces of the Russian Federation, about 4 thousands of Russian citizens are fighting in the ranks of ISIL (an organization whose activities are banned in the Russian Federation).


        In the Wehrmacht, tens of thousands of Jews fought. Does it change anything? Every nation has a certain percentage of genetic garbage.
        1. A. Privalov
          A. Privalov 21 December 2017 14: 18
          +1
          Quote: jhltyjyjctw
          Quote: A. Privalov
          Israel has put its heart, and according to the security forces of the Russian Federation, about 4 thousands of Russian citizens are fighting in the ranks of ISIL (an organization whose activities are banned in the Russian Federation).


          In the Wehrmacht, tens of thousands of Jews fought. Does it change anything? Every nation has a certain percentage of genetic garbage.

          Read less patriotic literature. Most Jews were fired from the German army with the advent of the Nazis back in 1933 year. Since 1935, after the introduction of the Nuremberg racial laws, to the Jews in general It was forbidden to serve in the Wehrmacht. There could only serve mishlingi. Yes, and they served a compulsory appeal. Germany of those years, this is not today's Ukraine with Russia. It was not realistic to hang out from the army. "Genetic trash" - obviously, your serious problem. I am not familiar with this topic. hi
    4. GAF
      GAF 4 December 2017 15: 31
      +2
      Quote: Primoos
      Well why are you so? Israel has invested his soul in ISIS, and you ask if he fought with him? Israel and LIH, it companions. One thing they do is one interests, one goals, one methods.

      This is YOU for nothing. Israel fought ISIS, but in its own way. Otherwise, where would the mountains of Israeli origin seized by IS from ISIS come from, unused bearded because of its poor quality or worthlessness.
      1. MadCat
        MadCat 7 December 2017 04: 12
        +1
        Quote: GAF
        Otherwise, where would the mountains of Israeli origin seized by IS from ISIS come from, unused bearded because of its poor quality or worthlessness.

        do you have hallucinations? what other weapons, evidence, as always, are stored on the moon by the Martians?
  2. Krasnodar
    Krasnodar 4 December 2017 06: 18
    +4
    1) The author writes - Israel basely shelling Syria without declaring war - in fact, the country has been at war since 1948.
    2) As for the downed missiles - in all the Arab-Israeli wars Syria shot down five times more planes in the first two days of hostilities than the Jews actually had.
    3) Israel carried out attacks of various objects in the territory of its neighbors since the creation of the Jewish state - because on the day independence was declared, armies of five Arab countries entered its territory. With three of these countries - Lebanon, Iraq and Syria - the state of war is officially continuing to this day.
    4) American, and especially Arab support, doesn’t solve anything here - the country is engaged in its own survival in a crazy region.
    5) Israel is certainly the DPRK of the Middle East. With the Korea South HDI.
    1. Silkway0026
      Silkway0026 4 December 2017 07: 41
      20
      A lot of bukaff ... And in short - the essence of Israeli policy is hutspa. Insolence, lies, permissiveness, based on US support. There would be no such support - would have licked Arabian boots and fawned.
      1. Viktorfi
        Viktorfi 4 December 2017 08: 11
        10
        Quote: Silkway0026
        Israel - Hutspa. Insolence, lies, permissiveness, based on US support. There would be no such support - would have licked Arabian boots and fawned.


        A lot of beeches, and knowledge regarding US support in the first couple of decades of the existence of the State of Israel in the wars of Israel is zero

        This is your scribble and is called - hutspa.
        Zero knowledge, and climb ..
        1. jhltyjyjctw
          jhltyjyjctw 21 December 2017 10: 02
          0
          Quote: Viktorfi
          A lot of beeches, and knowledge regarding US support in the first couple of decades of the existence of the State of Israel in the wars of Israel is zero


          Comrade Stalin, as I understand, turned out to be not in the business. Did not participate in the creation of the State of Israel? Weapons, up to aviation, in Israel, Carlson sent?
      2. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 4 December 2017 10: 10
        +2
        Quote: Silkway0026
        A lot of bukaff ... And in short - the essence of Israeli policy is hutspa. Insolence, lies, permissiveness, based on US support. There would be no such support - would have licked Arabian boots and fawned.

        Aha
        In the war of 67, 40 Americans died at the hands of the Israelites on the Libriti reconnaissance vessel, who merged Jordan with information about the advancement of Jews.
        The result is the heights of Israel (Godansky), Sinai, Gaza, the West Bank and East Jerusalem too.
        And the USA after that made friendship with the Jews, began to help ...
    2. just exp
      just exp 4 December 2017 09: 42
      10
      1 Russia and Japan also did not sign a peace treaty. do you think we can start bombing Tokyo?
      2 and your rockets are unbreakable there? could the Arabs lie? easily, then they are the Arabs. could they shoot down rockets? also could, because missiles are not the most difficult target, unlike airplanes, they do not make anti-ballistic maneuvers, do not interfere, or leave the air defense zone.
      3 Well then, it is logical that those countries can carry out attacks of various objects on the territory of Israel, because as you write "With three of these countries - Lebanon, Iraq and Syria - the state of war is officially continuing until now."
      4 country captures foreign territories, but does not survive. questions of survival were in the 47-48th years, when the Jews cut the Arab villages under the root. danger was during the existence of the USSR, and now, as 27 years, Israel as a country has not been threatened. but she regularly threatens and bombes other countries.
      you have such a logic there - you have to beat everyone so that they are afraid to even think about how to give us a rebuff.
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 4 December 2017 10: 15
        +1
        Quote: just EXPL
        1 Russia and Japan also did not sign a peace treaty. do you think we can start bombing Tokyo?
        2 and your rockets are unbreakable there? could the Arabs lie? easily, then they are the Arabs. could they shoot down rockets? also could, because missiles are not the most difficult target, unlike airplanes, they do not make anti-ballistic maneuvers, do not interfere, or leave the air defense zone.
        3 Well then, it is logical that those countries can carry out attacks of various objects on the territory of Israel, because as you write "With three of these countries - Lebanon, Iraq and Syria - the state of war is officially continuing until now."
        4 country captures foreign territories, but does not survive. questions of survival were in the 47-48th years, when the Jews cut the Arab villages under the root. danger was during the existence of the USSR, and now, as 27 years, Israel as a country has not been threatened. but she regularly threatens and bombes other countries.
        you have such a logic there - you have to beat everyone so that they are afraid to even think about how to give us a rebuff.

        1) The Russian Federation and Japan have diplomatic relations and peace. Israel and Syria have no diplomatic relations and war.
        2) They could bring down, but I do not believe
        3) may
        4) in 47 - 48 Arab villages were not cut to the root.
        Iran threatens, makes yao and arms the enemies of Israel.
        1. just exp
          just exp 4 December 2017 10: 29
          +4
          1 about kag, just deep. relationship was not necessary. it was enough that there was no peace treaty.
          2 question of faith is a personal question.
          3 and by the way it will be fair.
          4 ogs, and what I remembered how it was, it was there too - they are firing at themselves.
          5 you already have nuclear weapons and you armed the enemies of Russia .and what? can you start bombing you for this?
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 4 December 2017 11: 19
            0
            Quote: just EXPL
            1 about kag, just deep. relationship was not necessary. it was enough that there was no peace treaty.
            2 question of faith is a personal question.
            3 and by the way it will be fair.
            4 ogs, and what I remembered how it was, it was there too - they are firing at themselves.
            5 you already have nuclear weapons and you armed the enemies of Russia .and what? can you start bombing you for this?

            1) did not understand - the Russian Federation and Japan are officially at war?
            2) I agree, everyone believes in what he wants
            3) Well, yes, just after hitting Israel they get an answer and scream how bad Israel is
            4) In Dir Yasin, peaceful people died during the battle (but they didn’t kill everyone there) - the rest were either evicted without resistance or flowed after rumors about Dir Yasin
            5) The Russian Federation also sells weapons.
            Like the States, UK and others
            Nuclear weapons - Israel did not threaten the destruction of any country.
            1. just exp
              just exp 4 December 2017 13: 01
              +4
              1 is not able to peace, and this is after the war, you and the Syrians formally have the same relationship.
              3 a, Iran has already bombed Israel, and the Series launched rocket attacks on Israeli targets, did not know, did not know.
              4 never lie like after war, hunting and fishing.
              5 yes, but you did not answer the question, can we start bombing Israel?
              1. Tramp1812
                Tramp1812 4 December 2017 13: 25
                +3
                Syria has participated in wars against Israel three times. Having occupied the Golan Heights belonging to Israel, fired at border kibbutzim, tried to block mountain rivers to leave Israel without water, supported terrorists with weapons, trained them on its territory. Iran did the same. A final example: using two corvettes, he escorted a ship packed full of weapons for Palestinian terrorists from Gaza. When the ship was intercepted by Israeli missile carriers, the Persians shamefully escaped, weapons in large numbers were demonstrated by Jews to the whole world. Hezbollah is an Iranian subsidiary. And Israel is not going to allow its strengthening in Syria. The Israeli confrontation with Iran in the person of Hezbollah is memorable, when tens of thousands of missiles were fired on our territory, residents of nearby cities, in particular Haifa, were evacuated. So, excuse me ....
                The Jewish people suffered too much in 2000 years of wandering and humiliation, so as not to react to the Persian real, not even threats, but aggressive actions against the Jewish people. In a couple of weeks, Hanukkah. Every Jew knows what this holiday and the place of the Persians on it are dedicated to. Hezbollah sticks out "Haman's ears." And they need to kick.
                1. Sergey Cojocari
                  Sergey Cojocari 4 December 2017 14: 38
                  +7
                  "The Jewish people suffered too much in 2000 years of wandering and humiliation, so as not to react to the Persian real, not even threats, but aggressive actions against the Jewish people. A few weeks later, Hanukkah. And this holiday is dedicated to and the place of the Persians on it, knows every Jew "
                  -That is, your people in the entire known history of mankind managed to "get" everyone, from the Egyptian pharaohs, the Persian shahinshah, the Roman legate, the Christian and Arab worlds inclusive, and after that you talk about the sufferings of the "God chosen" people ??? Guys, maybe it's time to think?
                2. just exp
                  just exp 4 December 2017 15: 43
                  +4
                  and when was that? not then when was the USSR? and after the collapse of the USSR, which took place 27 years ago (think a short time? if you think so, then try to go to jail for that period, your opinion will change dramatically), and how, during this period, Syria rocked a lot?
                  and if you start to remember what happened 50 years ago, then why not remember what happened 70 years ago, for example, how the Arabs were cut out?
                  and what about the Persians, the emnip is that you got drunk of Persian blood, and not yours, to remind the reason for the celebration of your purim?
                  and for some reason I don’t remember that the Persians would genocide you.
              2. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 4 December 2017 13: 53
                0
                Quote: just EXPL
                1 is not able to peace, and this is after the war, you and the Syrians formally have the same relationship.
                3 a, Iran has already bombed Israel, and the Series launched rocket attacks on Israeli targets, did not know, did not know.
                4 never lie like after war, hunting and fishing.
                5 yes, but you did not answer the question, can we start bombing Israel?

                1) We have with the Syrians the official state of war. There are no embassies. The prime minister does not meet with the president. War.
                2) Syria fired at Israel, incl. and rockets. It invaded the territory of Israel in 1948, from 48 to 67 fired artillery, in 1967 artillery, in 1969-1970 artillery, and in 1973 ground-to-ground missiles.
                Iran fights with Hezbollah and finances Hamas.
                Both of them fired rockets and hailstones and Katyushas and improvised crafts from Israel.
                4) ... and after you were seen leaving the club from a girl.
                5) Everything is possible - the main thing then is not to complain to the UN, not to show tearful shots of devastation, not to talk about the Israeli military and its crimes
                1. just exp
                  just exp 4 December 2017 15: 54
                  +4
                  1 this is not a war, a war when 2 armies stand against each other and are at war with each other, or not when 2 governments do not talk with each other, so the DPRK still does not communicate with the South Caucasus and the states and there is no peace with each other They didn’t conclude, but this gives rise to mattresses and SK to bomb them.
                  2 wow, and in 47-48 Jews slaughtered Arabs, so these were punches of retaliation against criminals. will such a conversation go? By the way, you can recall another 17th century, or 13th. And Th, too, was a long time ago. maybe it’s worth talking about what changed after the mattresses became a hegemon? after this a new historical period began, and how is Syria? attacked you? fired? and you bombed her during this time or not?
                  as for Iran and Hezbola. with the same success I can say that you and the mattresses are financing the IG and An Nusra.
                  but at the expense of Kasams and shelling of peaceful neighborhoods, this is the only thing I agree with you, I do not digest passengers who shoot at civilians. although after entering the iron dome you have little reason to worry about it there.
                  4 lie everything and everywhere, so it remains to be judged by sayings in the style of "if you want to know who did it - think who benefits from it."
                  By the way, look at Wesley Clark’s interview with the mattress channel, he said long before the Arab spring that in the interview he said that after the invasion of Afghanistan (what year was that?) they showed him papers saying that the mattresses would start the war with Libya, Syria, Iran and other countries.
                  what do you think Clark had the gift of clairvoyance that in 2007 he knew about what would happen in 2010-11 and beyond?
                  or was he just up to date with the plans of the mattresses?
                  By the way, do not remember the pictures with McCain and Killari Clinton with the founders of ig?
                  By the way, but Hamas (or Fatah, I don’t remember) didn’t it create a mossad?
                  in general, if you rummage through the bank of your honesty, you will see something that is unlikely after that you will talk about the eternally unhappy and offended Israel.
                  5 But you can show tearful shots from Georgia, Maidown, Aleppo (but by no means Mosul) and other places?
                2. Pyromaniac
                  Pyromaniac 5 December 2017 21: 52
                  0
                  Quote: Krasnodar
                  5) Everything is possible - the main thing then is not to complain to the UN, not to show tearful shots of devastation, not to talk about the Israeli military and its crimes

                  Gee ...
        2. NEXUS
          NEXUS 4 December 2017 14: 51
          +9
          Quote: Krasnodar
          Iran threatens, makes yao and arms the enemies of Israel.

          But Israel received or created nuclear weapons itself. What's next? You can, but not Iran? Iran thinks about its security just like you do. But only if Iran, like Eun’s example, shows a new ICBM, all your cries about the Israeli enemies in the person of Iran will end immediately, as well as missile strikes ...
  3. Chichikov
    Chichikov 4 December 2017 06: 21
    +8
    What's not clear? Israel and Syria have been at war since 1948. Therefore, Israel is nervous. The victory over ISIS in Syria is just around the corner. As a result, Israel will receive at its borders not scattered militias, but a motivated, war-waged coalition composed of Iran, Hezbollah and the army of the SAR. And questions of belonging to the Dutch Heights, this coalition, are not in doubt. That’s why they are rocking the situation in advance - it is necessary to “inflate the world bubble” of the newly minted aggressor, and at the same time to show its relevance in the region, for the West.
    Looks like visits to Moscow were not successful!
    1. Primoos
      Primoos 4 December 2017 06: 27
      +7
      Golan Heights, Syria! What doubts can there be?
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 4 December 2017 06: 30
        +5
        Quote: Primoos
        Golan Heights, Syria! What doubts can there be?

        There are Israeli troops, settlements and even the city of Katzrin. Also Israeli. :)
        1. just exp
          just exp 4 December 2017 09: 44
          +8
          Arabs live in Jerusalem, and there even stands the Omar mosque. also Arabic by the way.
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 4 December 2017 10: 16
            +2
            Quote: just EXPL
            Arabs live in Jerusalem, and there even stands the Omar mosque. also Arabic by the way.

            As well as the Israeli parliament, ministries and the police.
            1. just exp
              just exp 4 December 2017 10: 30
              +4
              so in the Golan too Arabs are.
          2. Black5Raven
            Black5Raven 4 December 2017 18: 06
            +3
            Quote: just explo
            Arabs live in Jerusalem, and even Omar’s mosque stands there

            Muslims Tajiks and Caucasians live in Moscow, and there is the largest mosque in Europe.
            Can Moscow be considered to be Turkmen territories? laughing
        2. Primoos
          Primoos 4 December 2017 11: 38
          +7
          How old is Israel? How long will it last? In a hostile environment? Diligently cultivating hatred around?
          1. Alber
            Alber 4 December 2017 15: 05
            +4
            Quote: Primoos
            How old is Israel? How long will it last? In a hostile environment? Diligently cultivating hatred around?

            In the event of the defeat of Israel (hypothetically, of course), they have already looked at the territory of the "New Israel", and even two! This is Ukrainian territory (Dnepropetrovsk, Odessa regions ...)
            And of course Crimea, like a tidbit on which they drool
            1. Primoos
              Primoos 4 December 2017 16: 59
              +3
              Quote: Alber
              Quote: Primoos
              How old is Israel? How long will it last? In a hostile environment? Diligently cultivating hatred around?

              In the event of the defeat of Israel (hypothetically, of course), they have already looked at the territory of the "New Israel", and even two! This is Ukrainian territory (Dnepropetrovsk, Odessa regions ...)
              And of course Crimea, like a tidbit on which they drool

              Yes, I heard that their rabbis were already rolling their Jewish eggs under the Crimea. Like, the climate for the chosen ones is suitable there. Hutspa and rushing.
            2. stroybat ZABVO
              stroybat ZABVO 4 December 2017 21: 00
              0
              Argentina, you forgot the Argentinean project wink
      2. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 4 December 2017 06: 39
        +9
        Quote: Primoos
        Golan Heights, Syria! What doubts can there be?

        Without any doubts. Syria lost the Golan in the war, just as Germany lost Prussia, and Japan lost the Kuril Islands.
        PS the author wrote that it is impossible to doubt the words of official Damascus. Nevertheless, I would like at least one photograph of the SAR air defense targets. They shot down not over the sea and the goals were not small. Something was supposed to stay.
        1. andrewkor
          andrewkor 4 December 2017 07: 17
          15
          The partition of Germany and the return of the Kuril Islands to southern Sakhalin by the USSR took place following the results of the Yalta and Potsdam conferences of the countries of the anti-Hitler coalition, and the Golan, Gaza, Jerusalem were captured by Israel as a result of aggression condemned by the UN, feel the difference!
          1. Aaron Zawi
            Aaron Zawi 4 December 2017 07: 29
            +9
            Quote: andrewkor
            The partition of Germany and the return of the Kuril Islands to southern Sakhalin by the USSR took place following the results of the Yalta and Potsdam conferences of the countries of the anti-Hitler coalition, and the Golan, Gaza, Jerusalem were captured by Israel as a result of aggression condemned by the UN, feel the difference!

            The only difference is that the Great Powers, which held these conferences, defeated Trm then. But Israel was alone and he didn’t need any conferences, like the USSR in 1940, when, as the winner, it annexed part of the Finnish territory.
            PS as for the UN, this organization represents only its bureaucratic apparatus.
            1. jhltyjyjctw
              jhltyjyjctw 21 December 2017 10: 30
              0
              Quote: Aron Zaavi
              But Israel was alone and he did not need any conferences, like the USSR in 1940, when he, as a winner, annexed part of the Finnish territory.


              There are two opinions: mine and wrong. The USSR annexed Finland in 1809. based on the results of the war with Sweden. Until that time, the state of Finland did not have a place to be (and the Russian tsars did not call themselves the Grand Dukes of Finland, in fact, Finland was a state in the state, and the Finns themselves somehow did not seek sovereignty), then re-annexed in 1918, then, as a result war 1939-1940 initiated by the Finns themselves, annexed almost the suburbs of Leningrad. Then the peace-loving Finns helped the Germans starve the Leningraders, which Comrade Stalin, who was too responsive, left without consequences (from the point of view of big politics, this was true), however, confirming the status of annexation of 1940. and a little more “annexed” nickel mines, declared the White Sea the inland sea of ​​the USSR. In war as in war. All moves are recorded. The main question: do the Finns have territorial claims against the Russian Federation as the assignee of the USSR?
          2. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 4 December 2017 07: 39
            +2
            Quote: andrewkor
            The partition of Germany and the return of the Kuril Islands to southern Sakhalin by the USSR took place following the results of the Yalta and Potsdam conferences of the countries of the anti-Hitler coalition, and the Golan, Gaza, Jerusalem were captured by Israel as a result of aggression condemned by the UN, feel the difference!

            The UN in 1967 withdrew its peacekeepers from Sinai, which were a buffer between Arabs and Jews, at the request of Egypt. After which the latter blocked Israel's access to the Red Sea. Blockade. Israel did not wait for further developments and ran into Nasser’s troops, the Syrians decided to support the Egyptians and began shelling from the Golan Heights, Jordan from Judea and Samaria. After that, the Israelites took both the heights and the Zaradny coast. More Sinai and Gaza in Egypt.
            And the benevolent UN, which brought peacekeepers away, condemned Israel from the filing of the Arabs.
            That was such aggression.
            1. jhltyjyjctw
              jhltyjyjctw 21 December 2017 10: 39
              0
              Quote: Krasnodar
              Israel did not wait for further developments and ran into Nasser’s troops,


              There are no questions, national security issues should be above all. But does Israel justify this from an ethical point of view, does Israel give the right to claim the role of a regional righteous? Those. Israel was the first to strike, so to speak, a preventive measure, from the point of view of Israel. Thus, do you justify Hitler, who also referred to preventive measures, from his words, in relation to the USSR? Germany's lies and wines are proven at the Nuremberg Tribunal. But which of the Germans thought about such a development in 1941?
        2. victorsh
          victorsh 4 December 2017 07: 35
          +4
          Without any doubts. Syria lost the Golan in the war, just as Germany lost Prussia and Japan lost the Kuril Islands
          "Excellent" comparison. But not ethical. And second. Do not confuse your expansion of living space with the losses of the Germans and Japanese in WWII.
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 4 December 2017 07: 41
            +3
            Quote: victorsh
            Without any doubts. Syria lost the Golan in the war, just as Germany lost Prussia and Japan lost the Kuril Islands
            "Excellent" comparison. But not ethical. And second. Do not confuse your expansion of living space with the losses of the Germans and Japanese in WWII.

            As for the expansion of living space to the Arabs who supported Hitler during the war. This is their idol.
            1. CT-55_11-9009
              CT-55_11-9009 4 December 2017 09: 41
              +2
              Quote: Krasnodar
              As for the expansion of living space to the Arabs who supported Hitler during the war. This is their idol.

              Well, let's say Skorzeny did not work for Arabs, this is your shot ...
              1. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 4 December 2017 10: 18
                +1
                Quote: CT-55_11-9009
                Quote: Krasnodar
                As for the expansion of living space to the Arabs who supported Hitler during the war. This is their idol.

                Well, let's say Skorzeny did not work for Arabs, this is your shot ...

                After the war against the Nazi rocket scientists, who were carefully sheltered by Egypt.
                In Syria, too, the SS - the people were hiding, etc.
                1. antivirus
                  antivirus 4 December 2017 13: 26
                  0
                  get ready. hatred materializes.
                  everyone will live his life.
                  to get to paradise before is good.
                  professionals monitor and argue with you it makes no sense
                2. just exp
                  just exp 4 December 2017 15: 57
                  +1
                  was Werner von Braun hiding in Syria?
                  didn’t other asylum seekers and workers in the USA get a job?
                  Did you somehow announce a boycott and sanctions on the mattresses on this issue?
                3. jhltyjyjctw
                  jhltyjyjctw 21 December 2017 10: 42
                  0
                  Quote: Krasnodar
                  After the war against the Nazi rocket scientists, who were carefully sheltered by Egypt.
                  In Syria, too, the SS - the people were hiding, etc.


                  Hitler is alive! I saw him in Adler, in the village of Moldovka he was selling grape chacha.
      3. Tramp1812
        Tramp1812 4 December 2017 13: 37
        +3
        And you cannot say by chance: on what basis are the Golan Heights the territory of Syria? How did they get it. Enlighten.
        1. Primoos
          Primoos 4 December 2017 17: 04
          +3
          Quote: Rogue1812
          And you cannot say by chance: on what basis are the Golan Heights the territory of Syria? How did they get it. Enlighten.

          Shaw, did the Jews really give it?
        2. jhltyjyjctw
          jhltyjyjctw 21 December 2017 10: 44
          0
          Quote: Rogue1812
          And you cannot say by chance: on what basis are the Golan Heights the territory of Syria? How did they get it. Enlighten.


          I suppose the damned European oppressors were slaughtered when they said goodbye to their former colonies. Anglo or French thinkers, the dog knows them.
  4. jonht
    jonht 4 December 2017 06: 53
    0
    Clearly, not in the eyebrow, but in the eye.
  5. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 4 December 2017 07: 12
    +8
    Good article. Even a child will soon know that Israel has completely lost its sense of proportion.
    The right to appoint enemies, the right to kill citizens of other states on the territory of these states, the right to determine who is right and who is to blame, the right to be right ...
    And all this with the support of the United States and with his permission. Just do not say that Israel conducts an independent policy using force where it considers it necessary, and even for the purposes of national security. He can afford it having behind the United States.
    Arab countries are not ready for open interaction with Israel, fearing discontent of their own public more than threats from Iran
    And from which Arab countries will run to Israel for interaction?
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 4 December 2017 07: 43
      +2
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Good article. Even a child will soon know that Israel has completely lost its sense of proportion.
      The right to appoint enemies, the right to kill citizens of other states on the territory of these states, the right to determine who is right and who is to blame, the right to be right ...
      And all this with the support of the United States and with his permission. Just do not say that Israel conducts an independent policy using force where it considers it necessary, and even for the purposes of national security. He can afford it having behind the United States.
      Arab countries are not ready for open interaction with Israel, fearing discontent of their own public more than threats from Iran
      And from which Arab countries will run to Israel for interaction?

      All territorial conquests of Israel were made before friendship with the United States.
      1. Sirocco
        Sirocco 4 December 2017 09: 14
        +8
        All territorial conquests of Israel were made before friendship with the United States. You told the truth about the conquests, not the historical Homeland, which the Jews profiled, if any, on this territory. Jews remind me of gypsies, so what territories and homeland can we talk about? They have squeezed out the lands of the indigenous, and are you waiting for flowers? Just like the United States with the Indians, isn't it, everything is very similar? Now about friendship with the United States, the whole "elite" of America, the Jews and not the Arabs,))) the same is strange, isn't it))), And with what kind of fright, the three victorious countries in the Second World War decided to give you such an honor? Due to genocide 6000000 Jews? Strange, wasn’t the genocide of the Slavs of Russia from the 17th to the 45th? From the filing of the same Jewish elite in the USA? So what Israel has now is a consequence.
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 4 December 2017 10: 26
          +3
          Quote: Sirocco
          All territorial conquests of Israel were made before friendship with the United States. You told the truth about the conquests, not the historical Homeland, which the Jews profiled, if any, on this territory. Jews remind me of gypsies, so what territories and homeland can we talk about? They have squeezed out the lands of the indigenous, and are you waiting for flowers? Just like the United States with the Indians, isn't it, everything is very similar? Now about friendship with the United States, the whole "elite" of America, the Jews and not the Arabs,))) the same is strange, isn't it))), And with what kind of fright, the three victorious countries in the Second World War decided to give you such an honor? Due to genocide 6000000 Jews? Strange, wasn’t the genocide of the Slavs of Russia from the 17th to the 45th? From the filing of the same Jewish elite in the USA? So what Israel has now is a consequence.

          1) Arabs came to this land in the 7th century AD - they are conquerors. At the same time, the Jewish presence remained there.
          2) The genocide of the Slavs and the Jewish elite of the United States)))) Jews became the elite of America in the late 60s of the 20th century - before that they were treated better than Negroes, but worse than Italians. And the Italians were not very respected.
          3) Of the three winners, the UK was opposed, Truman, contrary to the opinion of her establishment for, the USSR in order to omit the British, also for.
          Something like this )))
          1. Cetron
            Cetron 4 December 2017 16: 02
            +3
            This is not Jewish land! Read the Old Testament. Moses brought, and Joshua with the hands of the Jews completely slaughtered the local population (... and their husbands, and their wives, and children, and their donkeys, dogs, birds ...) cleared the living space. Over the millennia, nothing has changed. And Israel wants to be loved?
            1. japs
              japs 4 December 2017 21: 23
              +3
              Gentlemen, I ask you, just do not drag biblical literature here ...
              More psychics, fortune tellers and alchemists here are not enough.
      2. jhltyjyjctw
        jhltyjyjctw 21 December 2017 10: 46
        0
        Quote: Krasnodar
        All territorial conquests of Israel were made before friendship with the United States.


        Hit me, hit me Tear my back in blood
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      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 4 December 2017 07: 44
        +1
        Quote: Aaron Zawi
        Quote: tracer
        Judaism is based on the ideas of fascism. The chosen nation you understand. Yes and by whom? The creator himself .. And the rest of the goyim .... And you can do anything with them, but it is advisable to cheat to get profit and live at his expense. AND ? What ? “They beat our sufferers again” ... No, they don’t beat, but they know too well, and they never deceive themselves at the expense of Izril’s policies. And of course, the “Syrians” rockets shot down on the C300 ..

        Given the fact that the holy books of Judaism are recognized as such in Christianity, as the primary principle, you have now accused the Christian civilization of fascism.

        In Islam, by the way, too - Taurat (Pentateuch) and some of the Jewish prophets are considered as such among both Christians and the faithful.
      2. just exp
        just exp 4 December 2017 09: 46
        +4
        recognized, but not considered the main ones, the Old Testament is canceled in favor of the New Testament.
        and in Judaism, it’s not even the five-book that is important, but its interpretation, and for the most stubborn, not even the interpretation itself, but the interpretation of the interpretation (Shulchan Aruch).
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 4 December 2017 10: 29
          +1
          Quote: just EXPL
          recognized, but not considered the main ones, the Old Testament is canceled in favor of the New Testament.
          and in Judaism, it’s not even the five-book that is important, but its interpretation, and for the most stubborn, not even the interpretation itself, but the interpretation of the interpretation (Shulchan Aruch).

          All Messianic prophecies about the coming of Jesus are based on the Old Testament.
          The most important thing in Judaism is the Pentateuch - Shulchan Aruch Yosef Carro - these are the rules of life, behavior based on it, etc.
          1. just exp
            just exp 4 December 2017 13: 05
            +2
            alas, this is not so, and the fact that prophecies are attributed to the OT is because of the messiah, and not of the messiah named Jesus. Well, for the most part, the OT carries a more decorative function, since Christians no longer rely on anything there (well, the commandments still).
            and Shulchan Aruch, in addition to the rules of life and behavior, is a very fascist book, all that Aloizych wrote and haggled is children's stories compared to Shulham Aruch.
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 4 December 2017 13: 57
              +1
              Quote: just EXPL
              alas, this is not so, and the fact that prophecies are attributed to the OT is because of the messiah, and not of the messiah named Jesus. Well, for the most part, the OT carries a more decorative function, since Christians no longer rely on anything there (well, the commandments still).
              and Shulchan Aruch, in addition to the rules of life and behavior, is a very fascist book, all that Aloizych wrote and haggled is children's stories compared to Shulham Aruch.

              I agree about the commandments, that the OT is not about Jesus, either (we will not develop this topic, there are believing Christians), but about Shulchan Aruch - find the original in nete. I also read fakes - bullshit. Not that, in short.
            2. Alber
              Alber 4 December 2017 15: 36
              +3
              Quote: just EXPL
              alas, this is not so, and the fact that prophecies are attributed to the OT is because of the messiah, and not of the messiah named Jesus. Well, for the most part, the OT carries a more decorative function, since Christians no longer rely on anything there (well, the commandments still).
              and Shulchan Aruch, in addition to the rules of life and behavior, is a very fascist book, all that Aloizych wrote and haggled is children's stories compared to Shulham Aruch.

              Even if you look at the Jewish "Catechism of the Jew" and their attitude towards goyim as cattle, the already "soft and fluffy" Zionists look disgusting
            3. jhltyjyjctw
              jhltyjyjctw 21 December 2017 10: 49
              0
              GOD is one for Christians, Muslims, Buddhists and Jews, but he has many names. Everything else, as Kadyrov says, is from the shaitan.
  7. Viktorfi
    Viktorfi 4 December 2017 08: 08
    10
    This is not analytics, but analytical trash.
    A lot of mistakes and lies. Article minus

    If Israel is seriously concerned about the fight against terrorism around the world, why didn’t the Israelis participate in the defeat of the “Islamic State”?


    And why were some other neighboring countries not involved? The author is cunning and strongly since Russia would not have climbed into Syria in order to fight terrorism and save the poor Syrian people. Russia, like the United States and Iran, and others that are part of the coalition, have their own interests. They share Syria, share influence in it.

    There is no Israel in this heap, since it is not interested in either the territory of Syria or the influence within Syria. Israel is trying to ensure near the borders of the absence of Sunni terrorists in the form of needles, and Shiite in the form of Iran and Hezbollah.

    Israel helps fight against the igils quietly - helps intelligence, helps Jordan and Egypt in the fight against igil. When the igil hit Israel from Syria - Israel destroyed those who shot.

    ISIS is opposed by so many countries and get into this heap, which, by killing the igil, shares Syria in parallel - there is no point in Israel.


    They cannot understand this in Tel Aviv.


    In Jerusalem



    Accustomed to impunity, they first encountered the possibility of an answer.


    And then Ostap suffered ... Israel and Russia have an agreement. The author, this is not impunity - this is the protection of one’s security from terrorists, which Russia also understands.



    Everything has been done, to be honest and blunt, it’s vile. From a foreign territory, without declaring war, on the territory of a sovereign state ...


    I don’t know what the name of this analyst is, but a person who writes an analytical article and uses words like “vaguely” and does not know that Israel and Syria are at war cannot be called an analyst. Like the fact that the author in his naivety believes that the Israeli pilots had to defiantly fly into Syria, twist the tail in front of Assad, make a couple of circles and then strike ...


    In general, it makes no sense to sort out all the nonsense of this pseudo-analytical article, since you have to write too much, and this author does not deserve this.
    1. rotmistr60
      rotmistr60 4 December 2017 09: 31
      +8
      Article minus
      Say thanks for the canceled comments. Would have been in turtles (who on the site would understand me for a long time).
      uses sneaky words
      Are you with an open visor to the alien territory of a sovereign state?
      1. Viktorfi
        Viktorfi 4 December 2017 10: 21
        +7
        Quote: rotmistr60
        Say thanks for the canceled comments. Would have been in turtles (who on the site would understand me for a long time).


        Removed the cons and anti-Semites and propagandists became ill .. wassat

        Quote: rotmistr60
        Are you with an open visor to the alien territory of a sovereign state?


        Firstly, it has not been sovereign for a long time
        Secondly, Israel is at war with this state.
        Thirdly, this state will support terrorists, supply terrorists to fight Israel.

        By the way, before the pro-Iranian influence intensified and with an attempt to bring Hezbollah terrorists to Syria to the borders of Israel, the border between Syria and Israel was relatively quiet.
        1. rotmistr60
          rotmistr60 4 December 2017 10: 31
          +6
          Thirdly, this state will support terrorists
          Well, yes, the fifth year so supports that they run under the cover of your friend Usa. And probably destroys his cities specifically so that Israel does not get it?
          anti-Semites and propagandists ...
          I can confidently say that Israeli Russophobes definitely felt good.
          1. Viktorfi
            Viktorfi 4 December 2017 11: 09
            +3
            Quote: rotmistr60
            Well, yes, the fifth year so supports that they run under the cover of your friend Usa. And probably destroys his cities specifically so that Israel does not get it?



            I’m saying that you have problems - you don’t see Shiite terrorists, murderers of Jews and not only.


            Hezbollah members seized and stopped two cars near the USSR Embassy in Beirut. In one, there were consular officer Arkady Katkov and embassy doctor Nikolai Svirsky, in the other, KGB resident officers Oleg Spirin and Valery Myrikov. Arkady Katkov was killed. The leader of the assassination was Imad Mugniya, nicknamed "Hyena" (it is known that Mugniya not only gave the order for the execution of Katkov, but also personally shot him). The remaining hostages were released





            Yes, and nonsense under the guise of the United States and other order tired ...

            Quote: rotmistr60
            I can confidently say that Israeli Russophobes definitely felt good.


            And they and you ..
          2. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 4 December 2017 11: 28
            +1
            Quote: rotmistr60
            Thirdly, this state will support terrorists
            Well, yes, the fifth year so supports that they run under the cover of your friend Usa. And probably destroys his cities specifically so that Israel does not get it?
            anti-Semites and propagandists ...
            I can confidently say that Israeli Russophobes definitely felt good.

            In Israel, I personally met three types of Russophobia:
            1) Georgian Jews in 2008 (a year later they ceased to be them)
            2) Ukrainian Jews after the Maidan (also not all)
            3) to those who in the Russian Federation or in the USSR were hurt by something or did not get settled in Israel, but the road was ordered back
            Do not pay attention - the majority of people who are normal towards Russia in Israel.
            1. rotmistr60
              rotmistr60 4 December 2017 11: 33
              +2
              Do not pay attention - the majority of people who are normal towards Russia in Israel.
              I am trying. But some comments simply cannot be left unanswered. You well revealed three types of dissatisfied. About the third
              those who in the Russian Federation or in the USSR were hurt by something or didn’t get settled in Israel, and the road was ordered back
              I also wrote more than once. hi
            2. ultra
              ultra 4 December 2017 15: 23
              +1
              Quote: Krasnodar
              Do not pay attention - normal attitude towards Russia in Israel, the majority

              Normally related just a minority, in all polls less than 30%
      2. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 4 December 2017 10: 29
        +2
        Quote: rotmistr60
        Article minus
        Say thanks for the canceled comments. Would have been in turtles (who on the site would understand me for a long time).
        uses sneaky words
        Are you with an open visor to the alien territory of a sovereign state?

        But you must?
      3. Black5Raven
        Black5Raven 4 December 2017 18: 15
        +2
        Quote: rotmistr60
        Say thanks for the canceled comments. Would have been in turtles (who on the site would understand me for a long time).

        Tell how it was? Anyone who does not support the "Uri patriots" is driven into cons, the cheers of the authors have long been in the generals. Any attempt to defend the opinion - the cons "from the infallible." Here is how it was.
    2. jhltyjyjctw
      jhltyjyjctw 21 December 2017 11: 07
      0
      Quote: Viktorfi
      This is not analytics, but analytical trash.
      A lot of mistakes and lies. Article minus

      Only an exceptional nation has the right to truth.

      [
      And why were some other neighboring countries not involved? The author is cunning and strongly since Russia would not have climbed into Syria in order to fight terrorism and save the poor Syrian people. Russia, like the United States and Iran, and others that are part of the coalition, have their own interests. They share Syria, share influence in it.

      There is no Israel in this heap, since it is not interested in either the territory of Syria or the influence within Syria. Israel is trying to ensure near the borders of the absence of Sunni terrorists in the form of needles, and Shiite in the form of Iran and Hezbollah.

      Israel is not among the interests, because it is forced to be content with the second roles in the United States. I agree, it's a shame.








      In Jerusalem

      You have just brought your share in the cup of contention. Question: if you ask, who gave Sioia Galana, who gave Jerusalem to Israel?
      [

      And then Ostap suffered ... Israel and Russia have an agreement. The author, this is not impunity - this is the protection of one’s security from terrorists, which Russia also understands.

      The presence of Russian bases in Syria, together with the now imputed President Assad, is a guarantee of Israeli security. You consider yourself the oldest nation, the oldest ukrov, be able to seek a compromise with your neighbors. The issue with Jerusalem is a bucket of gasoline in a smoldering fire.

      [I don’t know what the name of this analyst is, but a person who writes an analytical article and uses words like "vaguely" and does not know that Israel and Syria are at war cannot be called an analyst. Like the fact that the author in his naivety believes that the Israeli pilots had to defiantly fly into Syria, twist their tail in front of Assad, make a couple of circles and then strike ...

      What did Israel do to stop the state of war with Syria? Your pilots do not fly over the territory of Syria, because the air defense of Syria was resuscitated by Russian specialists. It has become dangerous.


      In general, it makes no sense to sort out all the nonsense of this pseudo-analytical article, since you have to write too much, and this author does not deserve this.


      As this is not deserved not by exclusive interlocutors on this resource. Mind did not come out.
  8. Nonna
    Nonna 4 December 2017 09: 03
    +1
    A good, detailed article is a rare article. Thank you.
  9. K-50
    K-50 4 December 2017 09: 40
    +4
    It has long been written here that Israel behaves meanly. In response, only warnings and removal of my posts. The ice started to march. what
    Finally, what was happening began to be voiced by real epithets, and not allegorically.
  10. kamski
    kamski 4 December 2017 11: 24
    +1
    Israel is only busy with that which produces all sorts of terrorist organizations. At the head of these fighters are the Israeli secret services. Only the blind man does not understand this, only the so-called fifth column shouts from the stands that Israel is FRIENDS. It is clear that Israel has never been ANOTHER. Israel is the source of world terrorism and robbery. Israel is a parasite of society ....
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 4 December 2017 13: 08
      +2
      Quote: kamski
      Israel is only busy with that which produces all sorts of terrorist organizations. At the head of these fighters are the Israeli secret services. Only the blind man does not understand this, only the so-called fifth column shouts from the stands that Israel is FRIENDS. It is clear that Israel has never been ANOTHER. Israel is the source of world terrorism and robbery. Israel is a parasite of society ....

      White Walker Leader is also Jewish
      And Kenny they dunked ... bastards.
  11. Eurodav
    Eurodav 4 December 2017 12: 38
    +5
    Quote: Shiryonay
    Dear Roman, after the tragedy that occurred with our people in the 40s of the last century, we made two important conclusions for ourselves:
    the first is to rely solely on safety in matters of security.
    Second, if someone in the world declares a desire to destroy the Jews, believe in the seriousness of his intentions immediately and unconditionally and act accordingly. It is with these two principles that the last bombardment of the Iranian base is connected. And the most interesting: Russia has not condemned us. And you know why? Because she herself is not interested in strengthening Iran in Syria.

    And what tragedy did you have that would overshadow ours? So do not cry, no one asked you to invent fairy tales and tell them to the world! The numbers are changing in a smaller direction and this is not the end! It was in 2006 at the Tehran Conference that the problem of the so-called Holocaust was solved, you cannot forgive Iran for that, as soon as the revisionists bring the facts to the people, Gemania will ask you for this scam! And not only them ...
    "the first is to rely only on yourself in matters of security."
    Relying on yourself for German money is easier than bareback! Normal such wisdom!
    [Img]
    "The second is if someone in the world declares a desire to destroy the Jews, to believe in the seriousness of his intentions immediately and unconditionally and act accordingly. It is with these two principles that the last bombardment of the Iranian base is connected."
    Do not confuse sweets with square and Jews with Zionists!
    "And the most interesting: Russia has not condemned us. And you know why? Because it itself is not interested in strengthening Iran in Syria."
    Yeah ... that’s why ... Did Yasha tell you this or did the GDP itself?
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 4 December 2017 13: 20
      +1
      Quote: Evrodav
      Quote: Shiryonay
      Dear Roman, after the tragedy that occurred with our people in the 40s of the last century, we made two important conclusions for ourselves:
      the first is to rely solely on safety in matters of security.
      Second, if someone in the world declares a desire to destroy the Jews, believe in the seriousness of his intentions immediately and unconditionally and act accordingly. It is with these two principles that the last bombardment of the Iranian base is connected. And the most interesting: Russia has not condemned us. And you know why? Because she herself is not interested in strengthening Iran in Syria.

      And what tragedy did you have that would overshadow ours? So do not cry, no one asked you to invent fairy tales and tell them to the world! The numbers are changing in a smaller direction and this is not the end! It was in 2006 at the Tehran Conference that the problem of the so-called Holocaust was solved, you cannot forgive Iran for that, as soon as the revisionists bring the facts to the people, Gemania will ask you for this scam! And not only them ...
      "the first is to rely only on yourself in matters of security."
      Relying on yourself for German money is easier than bareback! Normal such wisdom!
      [Img]
      "The second is if someone in the world declares a desire to destroy the Jews, to believe in the seriousness of his intentions immediately and unconditionally and act accordingly. It is with these two principles that the last bombardment of the Iranian base is connected."
      Do not confuse sweets with square and Jews with Zionists!
      "And the most interesting: Russia has not condemned us. And you know why? Because it itself is not interested in strengthening Iran in Syria."
      Yeah ... that’s why ... Did Yasha tell you this or did the GDP itself?

      Hizbullah didn’t zigzag at a conference in Tehran?
  12. Eurodav
    Eurodav 4 December 2017 12: 43
    +4
    Quote: parma
    Can I have proof? and not in the style of our MO with pictures from games for phones! (I won’t accept games from other platforms either!) "Poor Syria, everyone offends" already tired! The Syrians themselves started almost all the wars against Israel, they themselves refuse to sign a peace treaty, and they themselves support Hezbalah (ter. Organization not prohibited in the Russian Federation), knowing what kind of reaction the neighbor will have .. Regarding Iran, I’m not so sure that Iranian influence is There is something good in our country, even though the Persians are trying to become a regional superpower, now they have rivals in the CA under the auspices of the USA, and then? Who was Iran against during the Afghan war? Whom did the USSR support in the Iraq-Iran war? While in BV, as in the true pit with snakes, there were 2 large players - Israel and the SA, everything was relatively calm (the last 30 years), and what would result in the emergence of a new force, and even with ambitions like Iran, it is scary to think .. So far, from the wars in Iraq and Syria are not won primarily by the United States, as is customary here, the Iranians!

    Hey, hidden Jew, change the flag! Or does the habit of hiding one’s essence not allow?
    1. parma
      parma 4 December 2017 12: 55
      +4
      It’s good if you don’t have any other evidence - personally, I allow you to consider you to be at least a Jew, a Jew, an Arab ... And you’re just a bull-calf, today you were told from the TV screen “Jews are bad, Persians are good” You believe ... Tomorrow they will say the opposite, you will also shout “URRRA!”, In general, where they will go there and go ... That's because of people like you, our country always ends up in one place ... You don’t care what to eat, You’ll believe in the pictures from the games, and you won’t see anything in the video from the Mi-52 Apache, and so on, and there, in the MO’s press services, there’s exactly the same “spitter” and gouging, just because of your laziness it will give another pearl. ..
      1. Black5Raven
        Black5Raven 4 December 2017 18: 16
        +4
        Quote: parma
        "Jews are bad, Persians are good" You believe ... Tomorrow they will say the opposite, you will also shout "OURRRA!"

        Like with Turkey. Knife in the back ! Do not forgive!
        Putin changed his mind. Brothers forever. smile
        1. jhltyjyjctw
          jhltyjyjctw 21 December 2017 11: 14
          0
          Quote: Black5Raven
          Like with Turkey. Knife in the back ! Do not forgive!
          Putin changed his mind. Brothers forever.


          Russian proverb: who remembers the old - the eye goes out, and who forgets - the second out. GDP does nothing in vain and is responsible for its own affairs. Russia sample 2000 and 2017, as they say in Odessa, two big differences. We will live like this for another 6 years - we will see.
  13. Eurodav
    Eurodav 4 December 2017 12: 45
    +3
    Quote: K-50
    It has long been written here that Israel behaves meanly. In response, only warnings and removal of my posts. The ice started to march. what
    Finally, what was happening began to be voiced by real epithets, and not allegorically.

    To say petty, to say nothing!
    And the ice really broke ...
  14. Eurodav
    Eurodav 4 December 2017 12: 52
    +1
    Quote: Viktorfi
    Quote: rotmistr60
    Say thanks for the canceled comments. Would have been in turtles (who on the site would understand me for a long time).


    Removed the cons and anti-Semites and propagandists became ill .. wassat

    Quote: rotmistr60
    Are you with an open visor to the alien territory of a sovereign state?


    Firstly, it has not been sovereign for a long time
    Secondly, Israel is at war with this state.
    Thirdly, this state will support terrorists, supply terrorists to fight Israel.

    By the way, before the pro-Iranian influence intensified and with an attempt to bring Hezbollah terrorists to Syria to the borders of Israel, the border between Syria and Israel was relatively quiet.

    Silence about anti-Semitism, about the people included in the Semitic group, any person already knows, but tell us about anti-Semitism!
    1. Viktorfi
      Viktorfi 4 December 2017 17: 03
      +2
      Quote: Evrodav
      Silence about anti-Semitism, about the people included in the Semitic group, any person already knows, but tell us about anti-Semitism!


      Then you probably know that according to the Russian language in which you write, anti-Semite is a person hostile to Jews.

      And it doesn’t matter that the Arabs are also Smemites. This is the Russian language
      Therefore, if any person knows about the peoples included in the Semitic group, then an intelligent person knows that the term anti-Semite refers only to Jews, and not to all Semites.
  15. Radikal
    Radikal 4 December 2017 13: 51
    +2
    Quote: Shiryonay
    Dear Roman, after the tragedy that occurred with our people in the 40s of the last century, we made two important conclusions for ourselves:
    the first is to rely solely on safety in matters of security.
    Second, if someone in the world declares a desire to destroy the Jews, believe in the seriousness of his intentions immediately and unconditionally and act accordingly. It is with these two principles that the last bombardment of the Iranian base is connected. And the most interesting: Russia has not condemned us. And you know why? Because she herself is not interested in strengthening Iran in Syria.

    The reasons why Russia has not condemned you lie in a completely different plane, and you know this, and if you don’t know, ask your neighbors. wassat
  16. Kokarev Mikhail
    Kokarev Mikhail 4 December 2017 14: 45
    +5
    “From someone else’s territory, without declaring war, through the territory of a sovereign state” - Legally, the armistice with Syria has not been canceled the state of war. Israel has the right to conduct any military operations in the camp that declared war on it and refused to sign a peace treaty after the defeat. Iran officially claims that its goal is the destruction of Israel and is building bases in a country at war with it. Syria has the right to react as she wants, she fights of her own free will. I see no reason for our indignation. Buy popcorn and watch the theater of war.
  17. cedar
    cedar 4 December 2017 15: 46
    +1
    Quote: Viktorfi
    Removed the cons and anti-Semites and the propagandists became ill.


    If SEMITS are descendants of Sim, why then they are not SIMs. Maybe because anti-Semites are the Simites.
    Viktorfi, are you a propagandist from SEMITS or SIMITS ..?
    Call the Professor, without him you can’t figure it out with your birthmark of anti-Semitism, there are no minuses.
    1. Viktorfi
      Viktorfi 4 December 2017 16: 59
      +1
      Quote: cedar
      If SEMITS are descendants of Sim, why then they are not SIMs. Maybe because anti-Semites are the Sims.


      But in your propaganda brochure did not explain this?



      Quote: cedar
      Viktorfi, are you a propagandist from SEMITS or SIMITS ..?


      Do not judge others by yourself hi
  18. AshiSolo
    AshiSolo 4 December 2017 18: 52
    +1
    Quote: Krasnodar

    4) American, and especially Arab support, doesn’t solve anything here - the country is engaged in its own survival in a crazy region.

    Ahahahaha, ahahaha, aaaaahaha. Sorry, could not resist.
    1. jhltyjyjctw
      jhltyjyjctw 21 December 2017 11: 18
      0
      The three-headed dragon flies. One head says the other: you do not talk to that head, she is homosexual.
  19. 82т11
    82т11 4 December 2017 20: 35
    +1
    [quote = Krasnodar] [quote = just explo]
    1) We have with the Syrians the official state of war. There are no embassies. The prime minister does not meet with the president. War.
    2) Syria fired at Israel, incl. and rockets. It invaded the territory of Israel in 1948, from 48 to 67 fired artillery, in 1967 artillery, in 1969-1970 artillery, and in 1973 ground-to-ground missiles. [/ quote]
    Damn, what is it possible? I think that the Balts are collapsing when Russia conducts exercises, but it turns out that, according to this Jewish logic, we can well shell their territory, and at the same time we will capture Japan. Everything went history book to read who else offended the Russians over the past 2000 years.
  20. japs
    japs 4 December 2017 21: 39
    +4
    Yeah ...
    I read the comments, good fun.
    I don’t know with what account the goys lose.
    So far, the advantage in points for the Russian audience VO.
    Kosher landing, in an impressive amount, retreated for reconnaissance.
    We buy popcorn and wait for the continuation ...
  21. myobius59
    myobius59 4 December 2017 22: 09
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    Quote: NEXUS
    Quote: Shiryonay
    Nexus, please excuse us for being stronger than Syria and Iran.

    Yes, God will excuse you, and then he will catch up, and again will excuse. But why bomb and rockets at Syrians and Iranians? Apparently from a big and pure love of justice.
    Moreover, when your citizens are being killed, you are yelling about justice, but when you are killing Iranians, Syrians in batches, this is called your own interests.
    Isn't the CHITROZAD HAVE SET UP, dear descendants of Moses?
    Quote: Shiryonay
    I apologize in advance for future victories (if God forbid there will be a war)

    Well, well ... I’ll listen to you a little later, when Iran, suddenly, unexpectedly, has nuclear weapons. Then the Persians will apologize for everything.

    Well, God forgive them. They betrayed this god and crucified, and now they are praying. They have a good God, forgives everything. You can kill, rape, rob, and then pray well, and HE will forgive everything.
  22. Zina389
    Zina389 4 December 2017 22: 33
    +1
    Yes. The Iranians sat for themselves, did not touch anyone, celebrated the victory, raised Turkish delight for the destruction of Israel, and then the Israelites flew in and soaked everyone. Not by concept. Or let’s say a Palestinian named Jihad Abu Jihad sits and collects a bomb. But maybe he just collects it in such a way as to make fun of his friends, but then a bulldozer brought down a wall to gnaw at him, a bomb bang. Only a concrete foot sticks out. Horror.
    1. aiden
      aiden 5 December 2017 00: 03
      +1
      such a Jewish fascist sits to himself, makes a nuclear missile and thinks, and now we don’t care at all, everyone will look at our khan. and a second Jewish fascist who controls all financial, energy and information flows and thinks - all of you are Khan, I’m all I control.
      1. Zina389
        Zina389 5 December 2017 00: 09
        +1
        Not a Jewish fascist, but a Russian Zionist fellow . He also makes rockets and runs the oligarchs. Join the masses until the Jewish Cossacks chopped you up with whips.
        1. jhltyjyjctw
          jhltyjyjctw 21 December 2017 11: 20
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          Quote: Zina389
          until the Jewish Cossacks chopped you up with whips.


          Lashed out. The foot is not a lethal weapon.
  23. aiden
    aiden 5 December 2017 00: 00
    0
    Somewhere this people will answer for everything.
    1. Zina389
      Zina389 5 December 2017 00: 11
      +1
      Russians will help out drinks
  24. long in stock.
    long in stock. 5 December 2017 00: 59
    +2
    A Jewish businessman in Chicago sent his son to Israel for a year to get his culture. When the son returned, he said: “Dad, I had a great time in Israel, thanks for sending me there. By the way, I converted to Christianity. "
    “Oh, wey!” The father said, “this is not what I wanted you to do.” What have I done wrong?"
    He addressed his problem to his best friend. “Ike,” he said, “I sent my son to Israel, and he came home, a Christian. What can I do?"
    “It's funny that you addressed this problem to me,” Ike said. “I, too, sent my son to Israel, and he also came home a Christian. Perhaps we should go to the rabbi. ”
    So they did, and they explained their problem to the rabbi.
    “It's funny that you addressed this problem to me,” the rabbi said. - I also sent my son to Israel, and he also came home as a Christian. What is happening to our youth these days? ”
    And so they all prayed, telling the Lord about their sons and asking what to do. When they finished their prayer, a voice came from heaven:
    “It's funny that you addressed this problem to me,” the voice said. “I also sent my son to Israel ...” it’s so simple to defuse the situation a bit ... otherwise you’ll start bombing each other now ...
     
  25. Wladwlad
    Wladwlad 5 December 2017 19: 40
    +2
    Let's dot the and.
    - There are JEWS and there is JEWISH FASCISM that is ZIONISM. "Not all Jews are Zionists, but all Zionists are Jews."
    - the only anti-Semite on the planet is ZIONISM - it is he who is always at war with the SEMITES.
    - ghettos, pogroms and Black Hundreds were created by ZIONISM in the framework of supporting the idea of ​​fixing the "non-assimilability of Jews."
    - the new nation "Soviet man" included Soviet Jews. This was the source of the BEAST hatred of Zionism towards the USSR
    - It was Zionism that armed Hitler and set him against the USSR. the "holocaust" in this case was an ATTENDANT VICTIM.
    - ZIONISM is the ENEMY of ALL MANKIND.
    - if ZIONIST SLIME believes that she managed to avoid retaliation for the collapse of the USSR and the robbery of Russia, then she is mistaken. “Russians always come for theirs” (Bismarck)
    ================================
    By the way, about the "Jews kill the Jews."
    “Naum Isaakovich Eitingon (Eidington, Ettington; December 6, 1899, Shklov, Mogilev Province - May 3, 1981, Moscow) [1] - Soviet intelligence officer, major general of state security. One of the developers of the operation to eliminate Leo Trotsky. " (Wikipedia)
    1. Zina389
      Zina389 5 December 2017 23: 58
      0
      Big lies with big letters
      1) Zionists are in all countries and not necessarily Jews. Zionism says that all Jews should live in Israel, near Zion, so to speak. Those who think so are Zionists.
      2) Just stupid. Jews, including Zionists, are also Semites. Anti-Semites hate all Jews, including the Chmsl and the Zionists.
      3) That the USSR was created by the Zionists, I can still believe it, but the "black hundreds" are unlikely.
      4) From animal love to animal hatred, one step, and vice versa. Otherwise, how can we explain that the USSR did everything in its power to create the Zionist state of Israel?
      5) Zionism armed Hitler, and Stalin voted for Israel. Probably with a fright.
      6) "ZIONISM IS THE ENEMY OF ALL MANKIND" Which once again proves its alien nature.
      7) “Russians always come for their own” And Jews have come for their own.
      1. jhltyjyjctw
        jhltyjyjctw 21 December 2017 11: 25
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        Quote: Zina389
        Big lies with big letters
        1) Zionists are in all countries and not necessarily Jews. Zionism says that all Jews should live in Israel, near Zion, so to speak. Those who think so are Zionists.
        2) Just stupid. Jews, including Zionists, are also Semites. Anti-Semites hate all Jews, including the Chmsl and the Zionists.
        3) That the USSR was created by the Zionists, I can still believe it, but the "black hundreds" are unlikely.
        4) From animal love to animal hatred, one step, and vice versa. Otherwise, how can we explain that the USSR did everything in its power to create the Zionist state of Israel?
        5) Zionism armed Hitler, and Stalin voted for Israel. Probably with a fright.
        6) "ZIONISM IS THE ENEMY OF ALL MANKIND" Which once again proves its alien nature.
        7) “Russians always come for their own” And Jews have come for their own.


        Unconvincing in all respects, the previous speaker apparently has a Soviet education, unlike you.
  26. MadCat
    MadCat 7 December 2017 03: 52
    +1
    more and more frank orders are being printed, absolutely delusional and unproven, Israel never supported the Islamofascists from ig, fighting all the time against them (we would look at least at the number of ig militants destroyed together with Egypt), while Assad gathered all the scumbags under his roof for the destruction of Israel with the connivance of Russia and with the support of Iran. All these articles look like a pathetic attempt to shift from a sick mind to the healthy problems that we organized on our own. Double standards and support for both Shiite and Sunni terrorism will not bring to good. All this mold must be destroyed.
    1. long in stock.
      long in stock. 7 December 2017 08: 00
      0
      but don’t you think that Assad has completely different problems now? He’s not up to the destruction of Israel right now ..... than to destroy it? The country is destroyed and the army can’t be compared to 80 years old ... so the nonsense is falling from both sides ..
  27. Zeev Zeev
    Zeev Zeev 7 December 2017 13: 17
    0
    For those who don’t know. Since May 15, 1948, Israel has been at war with Syria. Syria declared war.
    1. jhltyjyjctw
      jhltyjyjctw 21 December 2017 11: 27
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      Quote: Zeev Zeev
      For those who don’t know. Since May 15, 1948, Israel has been at war with Syria. Syria declared war.


      And why would Israel, as an older and wiser state, not offer peace to Syria? Now is the right time.
  28. Dimmih
    Dimmih 7 December 2017 13: 19
    0
    Iran is making efforts to annoy Israel in every way possible. Israel resists this and strikes warning blows, sometimes to a point, sometimes by. Why should we get into this business? We are doing business with both of them, and let them bite among themselves. And everyone is good.
  29. Zeev Zeev
    Zeev Zeev 7 December 2017 13: 22
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    Quote: Black5Raven
    Quote: parma
    "Jews are bad, Persians are good" You believe ... Tomorrow they will say the opposite, you will also shout "OURRRA!"

    Like with Turkey. Knife in the back ! Do not forgive!
    Putin changed his mind. Brothers forever. smile

    Geta is such a Taimnitsa raseytsaў.
  30. GDP
    GDP 8 December 2017 14: 59
    0
    I doubt that Israel has anything to do with ISIS, but in support of anti-government forces in Syria - 100% has. The closer Syria is to the Stone Age, the better and calmer Israel is. According to FIG how much blood will be shed, the main thing is not Jewish. So that they do not talk about the good attitude of the Jews towards the Syrians, this is nonsense. Syria is an enemy of Israel, as well as Lebanon and many other Arab countries in which Israel at one time chopped off the land. Yes, the Arabs aggressively behaved towards the Jews, but the local population did not call Jews to these lands for permanent residence, in fact, the Jews are occupiers in Israel ... Despite everything said, I respect the Jews, especially the Soviet ones, but the bombing just in case foreign cities I do not approve ... There are more subtle ways to stop the threat, and so they only exacerbate everything.
  31. SHAH
    SHAH 8 December 2017 18: 30
    0
    [i] [/ i] Israel, as always, is on the cutting edge, just to prevent slipping.
  32. Terenin
    Terenin 10 December 2017 21: 59
    +3
    International law has begun to recall something more and more often in those places where the Russian armed forces operate. In Russia, too, after the "Chechen company" everything fell into place. How else? You are the opponent’s word, and he’s ten in response.
    Something I don’t understand, the Middle East, the peoples of other eastern countries have the right to such, such and such, and that in Russia we have fewer nationalities and nationalities with their own interests? No, no less. We give in to each other more or less calmly.
    And there every shah and prince demands privileges ...
  33. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 21 December 2017 21: 42
    +1
    Quote: jhltyjyjctw
    Quote: Viktorfi
    A lot of beeches, and knowledge regarding US support in the first couple of decades of the existence of the State of Israel in the wars of Israel is zero


    Comrade Stalin, as I understand, turned out to be not in the business. Did not participate in the creation of the State of Israel? Weapons, up to aviation, in Israel, Carlson sent?

    I will not in any way detract from the merits of the USSR in the creation of a Jewish state. From the 33-s states voted "FOR" - 3 votes were from the USSR. However, it should be understood and another side of this issue. The creation of Israel naturally squeezed Britain from a strategically important region and could enable the USSR to take its place. The words of Stalin are widely known:
    “Let's agree with the formation of Israel. It will be like an awl in the ass for the Arab states and will make them turn their back on Britain. Ultimately, British influence will be completely undermined in Egypt, Syria, Turkey and Iraq. ”
    After the end of World War II, Great Britain was unable to hold its colonies and protectorates. Thus, India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Myanmar, Malaysia, Malta, Cyprus and many others gained independence. Palestine was no exception, and the keys to this territory (where the national liberation struggle was already taking place with might and main) Britain itself brought to the United Nations, having opened, of course, everything that could. Whether the UN would vote for partitioning or not, the Jewish state actually existed by that time. It created its own financial system, health and education systems (schools and universities), transport, infrastructure, power generation, agriculture. Local government bodies were organized, military units and weapons manufacturing enterprises actually existed, their own cultural life, the press, theaters existed. To all of the above, Stalin had no relation. Moreover, many things were not created thanks to, but in spite of Stalin.
    Yes, Joseph Vissarionovich graciously allowed Czechoslovakia to supply arms to Israel, but they were not of decisive importance. Deliveries were limited to 25-th reworked "Messerschmitts" of poor quality at astronomical prices and small arms. Avia S-199 were delivered to Israel - for the price of $ 180 000 per plane. For comparison, the Americans sold fighters for $ 15 000, and bombers for $ 30 000 per plane. Palestine’s air service purchased C-46 Commando medium transport planes in different countries for $ 5 000, four-engine transport planes C-69 Constellation for $ 15 000 per piece, heavy bombers B-17 for $ 20 000. I agree that at that time, any trunk was very valuable, but you should not exaggerate the value of these supplies. In Czechoslovakia, about 25 thousands of rifles were purchased, more than 5 thousands of light machine guns, 200 heavy machine guns, more than 54 million cartridges. For comparison: only in March 1948 of the year only at one underground plant in Palestine was already in production of 12 000 submachine guns "Stan", 500 machine guns "Dror", 140 000 grenades, 120 three-inch mortars and millions of cartridges.
    The same Czechoslovakia supplied weapons to the Arabs. For example, during the operation "Shoded", the Hagany fighters intercepted the ship Argyro with eight thousand rifles and eight million rounds of Czechoslovakia, intended for Syria. Artillery, for example, during the war of independence mainly consisted of French cannons purchased in Switzerland.
    In the USSR at that time, the struggle against "cosmopolitanism" was already in full swing in the country, the "Case of the Jewish Anti-Fascist Committee" was unwound (110 was repressed, people were shot by 14), the world-famous theater director and Jewish public figure Solomon Mikhoels followed by " The case of doctors "and other repression against the Jews.
    Moreover, just after 4, after the described events in Czechoslovakia, the so-called Slansky process, inspired by the USSR Ministry of State Security, took place. During a demonstration trial of a group of prominent figures of the Communist Party of Czechoslovakia, among whom was a veteran of the Spanish Civil War, General Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Czechoslovakia Rudolf Slansky, and also 13 other high-ranking party and state leaders (11 of whom were Jews), were accused of all mortal sins, including the "Trotsky-Zionist-Titovsky conspiracy." They also remembered the supply of weapons to the Zionists, although Slansky was the only one who opposed these supplies. As a result, 11 people were executed, and 3s were sentenced to life imprisonment.
    The Arabs in 1947 got exactly the same chance to create their own state as the Jews. But instead of creating it, they began military operations against Israel, in order to prevent the creation of an independent Jewish state, they lost the war and lost their chance.
    History has its own way: a new Israel in the coming year 70 years, and the Arabs and ride on donkeys cursing Jews in all their troubles.
  34. Zeev Zeev
    Zeev Zeev 23 December 2017 15: 45
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    Quote: jhltyjyjctw
    Quote: Zeev Zeev
    For those who don’t know. Since May 15, 1948, Israel has been at war with Syria. Syria declared war.


    And why would Israel, as an older and wiser state, not offer peace to Syria? Now is the right time.

    Offered, more than once. Syria refused. And now nobody is going to talk to them at all.