“Dry Superjet 100”. Ten years later

December 3 2017

More than 10 years have passed since the presentation of the Sukhoi Superjet 100 aircraft. He became the first civil aircraft created in modern Russia. Even before its first flight, the Superjet was criticized both within Russia itself and abroad. But the plane still got on the wing and for more than 7 years has been "serving" in fleets different countries.

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senima56 3 December 2017 15: 21
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We then already flew TU-334. If at least 10% of the funds that had been swooped up (and stolen) in the SSJ were given for revision of the TU-334, we would have had a competitive aircraft for a long time, and not the “miracle” that friends and comrades are trying to bring in for nothing!
1. Vadim Zhivov 3 December 2017 15: 39
  
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  And do you think the TU-334 would be easily standardized and it would be the turn of the buyers ...
  1. Captain Pushkin 3 December 2017 15: 56
    
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    Do you think that the TU-334 would be easily standardized and it would be the turn of the buyers ..
    
    Tu-334 is still needed by Russia for internal regional lines. Including in the North, where the Super-duper path is ordered ..
    Naturally, with new engines and new avionics. If the rulers had brains, they would already have begun work on putting the Tu-334 into production.
    1. Vadim Zhivov 3 December 2017 16: 14
      
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      And whose engines to put on it, and it is clear that the SSJ they are low ...
    2. Sling cutter 3 December 2017 19: 16
      
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      Quote: Captain Pushkin
      If the rulers had brains, they would already have begun work on putting the Tu-334 into production.
      
      It is difficult to ask the patient for health.
    3. feokot1982 4 December 2017 15: 57
      
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      somehow it does not look like flawless exploitation in the north
    4. Elena Zakharova 5 December 2017 18: 10
      
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      Quote: Captain Pushkin
      Tu-334 is still needed by Russia for internal regional lines. Including in the North, where the Super-duper path is ordered ..
      
      Sorry, but most of all you have a poor understanding of why the Tu-334 project died.
      1. Captain Pushkin 29 December 2017 17: 28
        
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        Quote: Elena Zakharova
        
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        Tu-334 is still needed by Russia for internal regional lines. Including in the North, where the Super-duper path is ordered ..
        
        Sorry, but most of all you have a poor understanding of why the Tu-334 project died.
        
        Maybe that's why:
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        Moreover, 334 was one of the domestic components, unlike the superjet, and now we have an undeveloped achiostructure and a poor aircraft "made in Russia" on almost completely foreign components. It was only necessary for Pagasyan, so that his concern also covered civil aviation, and competitors had to die.
  2. Sling cutter 3 December 2017 19: 14
    
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    As far as I remember, he is certified, but I can be wrong.
  3. FID 4 December 2017 09: 59
    
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    Quote: VadimLives
    behind him would be a line of buyers ...
    
    And buyers are breaking right behind the super .... Who is the last ???
    1. Vadim Zhivov 4 December 2017 16: 15
      
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      But I’m super and I don’t praise it, and it cut Poghosyan with the company
2. Alekseev 3 December 2017 16: 32
  
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  Quote: senima56
  then TU-334 was already flying. If at least
  
  Comrade, no doubt, very competent!
  And categorically.
  If you are a specialist, then please express specifically what are the engineering solutions of the Tu-334 better, where are the guarantees that the funds in the development of this aircraft would not “swell” and “steal”, unlike Sukhoi, and also why the SSJ is a “miracle” and how much it’s for nothing when it trying to "get in"?
  And who are "friends and comrades", then?
  Otherwise, it smells like emotional verbiage and nothing more.
  1. svp67 3 December 2017 18: 07
    
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    and also why SSJ is a miracle
    I don’t know what, but how, but the crew like him ... Pretty well thought out machine.
    1. FID 4 December 2017 10: 04
      
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      I don’t know what, but how, but the crew like him ...
      
      Excuse me, are you a pilot? The similarity of the A-300 and the SJJ is real, but the imported pilots and our retrained ones - DO NOT fly (control the plane) ...
      1. svp67 4 December 2017 10: 14
        
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        Excuse me, are you a pilot?
        
        No. Relatives are flying. On the "Airbuses", but their company is going to acquire several Sukhoi Jets. We went, got acquainted with the plane. So, I quote their opinion.
  2. Captain Pushkin 29 December 2017 17: 35
    
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    Quote: Alekseev
    what are the engineering solutions of the Tu-334 better, where are the guarantees that the funds in the development of this aircraft would not “swell” and “steal”, unlike Sukhoi
    
    The development of the Tu-334 was almost completed for dozens of times less money than it was cut on the Super duper. The Tu-334 was already certified, that is, it could already be produced (well, that would be if they had prepared the production. The money that was earmarked for the development of the Superfood would more than be enough for the production of the Tu-334. And you can sell it was anywhere without asking permission from the US and other French.)
3. ADmA_RUS 3 December 2017 23: 00
  
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  Normal plane. The airbus was 10 dB louder.
  1. FID 4 December 2017 10: 05
    
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    Normal plane. The airbus was 10 dB louder.
    
    Yes, what are you? Really? It was necessary to sue Airbus ...
4. Shurale 4 December 2017 07: 46
  
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  Moreover, 334 was one of the domestic components, unlike the superjet, and now we have an undeveloped achiostructure and a poor aircraft "made in Russia" on almost completely foreign components. It was only necessary for Pagasyan, so that his concern also covered civil aviation, and competitors had to die.
antivirus 3 December 2017 16: 44
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in the first message about "joint" production, it was heard --- "cut," a game of giveaways for dual technologies "- Mistral in the air.
in short - washing dough to enter the international community.
they abandoned their experience and decided to fit carcasses into the world division of labor
and your market and climate, and service, and the development of your "competencies"? - conscious damn burned
glavnykarapuz 3 December 2017 18: 20
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These "competencies" were very expensive. Moreover, the aircraft manufacturer (Sukhoi) had never built civilian liners before. And the company that "ate more than one dog" (Tupolev) found itself in transit with almost ready-made equipment. Only in the years BEFORE the PRESENTATION of this "superfood" could be established, not only could mass production and certification be established, but serious modernization could be expected (especially in terms of engines). YES and that huge money that went over the hill for avionics could be spent inside the country, for our own production and development and a chance for the development of the industry as a whole.
But our rulers / leaders are not “baking” about the development of the country ...
P.S. And the pinnacle of insanity is to invite the Biong chief competitor as a consultant.
Krasnodar 3 December 2017 19: 53
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I’ll say as a consumer - I flew in the business class of this product.
The seats are narrow, placed close to each other. If another passenger were sitting nearby, it would be very uncomfortable.
Leg distance is better than most business class Boeing and Airbus lineups I flew.
Flying - the internal parts and lining are shaking a little, it seems that a blunder was made.
For the flight Krasnodar - Sheremetyevo (on average 2:25) is quite a suitable airplane.
skyvic 4 December 2017 10: 15
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Tu-334 has been fully certified. The layout of the aircraft, its landing gear and design fully corresponded to the realities of our airports, where far from ideal lanes.
Aircraft (Superjet) may be pleasant in piloting technique, but ...
Did you know that the costs of all stages of its design and launch into the series are comparable to the costs of Americans for the Dreamliner (about $ 5 billion) in Yakutia this aircraft will stand in the winter months, it is certified to -40 degrees. Chassis racks are frankly weak (landing weight limit of 41 tons, with take-off weight of 45,8 tons. Commanders in Stavropol fight in hysterics if the weather at the Moscow junction is not suitable for a spare and you need to take a lot of fuel, and the load is full (this is at a distance of 1260 km ). Constant problems with locks of cargo hatches (they constantly freeze, it is necessary to warm up), after a day of delay due to the need to restart computers (various defects come out). Do you know that when the aircraft is parked for a long time, it is necessary to warm up so that the equipment does not cool below zero (Aeroflot’s requirement.) And a priori a cherry cannot be modernized, a change of engines will require practically re-creating it, another landing gear, other characteristics, and that’s billions more, so it's a cuckoo, not an airplane.
1. Rushnairfors 4 December 2017 13: 30
  
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  Well, a good objective review. Skyvik. resolve the question, are you related to the operation (flight or technical) of this aircraft? Or is your post based on information from the Internet? Without jokes and a curiosity, I seriously ask, it’s just one thing when an amateur enthusiast writes, and another thing is a person who works with his own equipment every day, the opinion of such people is much higher for me than Wikipedia iksperds.
Kolin 4 December 2017 17: 03
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The Eggplant Witnesses sect has revitalized again
Calm down, in TU-334 there are no less foreign components than in SSZh-100, they are only from Banderostan.