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Parliament deputy: the population of Ukraine is much less than official data

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The population of Ukraine is slightly more than 30 million people, not 42 million, according to the State Statistics Service, reports RIA News Statement by the former Minister of Ore and Social Policy, deputy of the Verkhovna Rada, Mikhail Papiyev.




Papiyev noted that "outwardly Ukraine looks like a successful state - according to statistics, there are 42,3 million Ukrainians today, that is, it is a powerful European country."

However, according to calculations that we carried out together with experts and the Institute of Demography of the Academy of Sciences of Ukraine, now is an optimistic indicator - 32 of a million Ukrainian citizens,
he said on the ZIK channel.

According to him, "ten million citizens of Ukraine could not find work in their homeland, and were forced to go abroad to earn money."

There were five million of them before 2014, and another five million left after. This is a big trouble, because mostly healthy people in reproductive age,
said Papiyev.

According to the State Statistics Service of Ukraine, the population of the republic as of 1 in June 2017 of the year is 42,3 million people excluding Crimea, which since 2014 has become the region of Russia.
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  1. aszzz888
    aszzz888 3 December 2017 08: 19 New
    16
    ... download more, you see population growth will trample! ... bully
    1. Primoos
      Primoos 3 December 2017 08: 24 New
      26
      There are much fewer people in dill. Banderlog does not count. Inhumans.
      1. 210ox
        210ox 3 December 2017 08: 31 New
        22
        Lately (to me personally) the topic of “people or population” of this territory has become uninteresting. The main thing is what happens with demography. Growth? Hardly. Optimistic figures only due to the republics of the Caucasus. Population of villages and small cities is declining, youth are leaving there to earn money in the capital or in the north. You need to solve your problems, and not consider how they are doing badly ..
        Quote: Primoos
        There are much fewer people in dill. Banderlog does not count. Inhumans.
        1. Jedi
          Jedi 3 December 2017 08: 38 New
          +9
          Hello Dima! hi "Dead Souls" N.V. Gogol.
          1. 210ox
            210ox 3 December 2017 08: 58 New
            +6
            Maxim, good morning! Chichikov bought these souls .. And in the ruins they are cloned by statistics.
            Quote: Jedi
            Hello Dima! hi "Dead Souls" N.V. Gogol.
            1. Jedi
              Jedi 3 December 2017 09: 07 New
              +6
              These are already adjustments taking into account the time difference between the writing of "Dead Souls" and modern Ukraine. wink
        2. Dantexicp
          Dantexicp 4 December 2017 04: 56 New
          0
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIVX1pR2HzM
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      3. xetai9977
        xetai9977 3 December 2017 12: 52 New
        +1
        In fact, he is right. Moreover, this applies to almost all countries of the post-Soviet space. And Russia is no exception. The official statistics essentially "draws" the numbers for the plebs, and the true figure goes under the heading "top secret." So far, only Georgia has had the courage to admit that they have not 5.1 million people, but 3.8 million.
        1. Sergey39
          Sergey39 3 December 2017 16: 44 New
          +1
          There was infa that China is overstating the data. There is not 1.35 billion, but 700-800 million people.
        2. Nikolai Grek
          Nikolai Grek 3 December 2017 18: 42 New
          +1
          Quote: xetai9977
          In fact, he is right. Moreover, this applies to almost all countries of the post-Soviet space. And Russia is no exception. The official statistics essentially "draws" the numbers for the plebs, and the true figure goes under the heading "top secret." So far, only Georgia has had the courage to admit that they have not 5.1 million people, but 3.8 million.

          recourse recourse recourse with the same confidence it can be argued that all countries "draw" numbers for plebs !!! wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
    2. Sergey-svs
      Sergey-svs 3 December 2017 09: 19 New
      10
      People! Take care of svidomity! yes Soon, these useless and vicious stomachs will remain units! What will we then show to children in zoos! laughing


  2. 1331M
    1331M 3 December 2017 08: 20 New
    +6
    Well, right, everyone in Europe, wash the toilets ... laughing They achieved what they wanted!
    1. Logall
      Logall 3 December 2017 08: 31 New
      19
      Freedom - she is! I want - my floor, but I want - I can stand the pots!
      hi
      1. 210ox
        210ox 3 December 2017 08: 34 New
        +8
        Alexander, good morning! I have distant relatives in Moldova. So they go to the Kuban to earn money in the summer ..... Harvest fruits and berries ... From Moldova. Two daughters. One college graduated in France, though she doesn’t want to go there live. Another in Italy on the same pots .. That's how they live.
        Quote: Logall
        Freedom - she is! I want - my floor, but I want - I can stand the pots!
        hi
        1. ando_bor
          ando_bor 3 December 2017 13: 27 New
          +3
          Quote: 210ox
          I have distant relatives in Moldova. So they go to the Kuban in summer to earn money.

          In May, I was at work in the Crimea, I was looking for housing for my workers, everything was inexpensive by Ukrainians, they weren’t resting there, the season had not really started yet, they were working, they all said - in Ukraine - full F ..., only one girl from Dnieper, told how glamorous and fluent in Ukraine, and what came? - The climate, he says, is not suitable for me in the Dnieper.
          1. Nikolai Grek
            Nikolai Grek 3 December 2017 18: 44 New
            +1
            Quote: ando_bor
            the climate, says, doesn’t suit me in the Dnieper.

            in a fascist "climate" it’s hard to exist !!! wassat wassat lol lol lol
            1. ando_bor
              ando_bor 3 December 2017 23: 51 New
              0
              Quote: Nikolai the Greek
              in a fascist "climate" it’s hard to exist !!!

              Yes, the fascists do not bother her - there’s nothing to buy for food — this is a problem for her.
      2. 1331M
        1331M 3 December 2017 08: 36 New
        +8
        good This is a free will ... wink hi
    2. Lelek
      Lelek 3 December 2017 14: 53 New
      +2
      Quote: 1331M
      Well right, everything in Europe


      Hey. In "Europe" there are about 1,2 million prodigal sons of the former "nenko", in Russia only 4,5 million are registered (and in reality, more than 6 million). EU designated for "404" the so-called "visa-free" only for a certain period, without the right to receive a green card and without the right to work. And this "help" is voiced daily by the Kiev "Newgetman"

      Oops !!!
  3. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 3 December 2017 08: 24 New
    +9
    Creepy numbers. I read something similar, about the calculations for the consumption of bread ... Also it turned out no more than 30.
    1. Pirogov
      Pirogov 3 December 2017 10: 40 New
      +5
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Creepy numbers. I read something similar, about the calculations for the consumption of bread ... Also it turned out no more than 30.

      Yes, 28 maximum, they believe dead souls and pensions, subsidies, etc. from them. in your pocket. Where can they come from, here you can easily calculate how many people left for Russia in Poland, the EU, the United States, etc.
  4. zzdimk
    zzdimk 3 December 2017 08: 25 New
    +7
    During the races on the Maidan the reproducer fell off?
    1. Nikolai Grek
      Nikolai Grek 3 December 2017 18: 47 New
      +1
      Quote: zzdimk
      During the races on the Maidan the reproducer fell off?

      In Western Ukraine, they invented a new seismic weapon, code-named "Hto do not jump that Muscovite." During the tests, the Crimean peninsula fell off and a crack formed along the Donbass. The tests are ongoing. wassat wassat wassat
  5. svp67
    svp67 3 December 2017 08: 34 New
    +6
    Now the optimistic indicator is 32 million citizens of Ukraine,
    Well, VERY optimistic, pessimistic already speaks of only 25 million. The presence of open borders and the lack of normal work and prospects are the main factors that influenced this issue.
    1. Nikolai Grek
      Nikolai Grek 3 December 2017 18: 48 New
      +1
      Quote: svp67
      Now the optimistic indicator is 32 million citizens of Ukraine,
      Well, VERY optimistic, pessimistic already speaks of only 25 million. The presence of open borders and the lack of normal work and prospects are the main factors that influenced this issue.

      here the factor is more global - the lack of a normal country !!! wink yes wassat laughing laughing laughing
  6. Fedorov
    Fedorov 3 December 2017 08: 40 New
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    I’ll just say an example.
    In our school, there used to be classes A, B, C, D, D,. And in each of 30 people. And now A and B, where are the other children? In villages, schools are totally closed. School buses came up with where to bring children closer to school. sad
    1. 1331M
      1331M 3 December 2017 08: 42 New
      +7
      We have the same story with buses, children and schools in the villages ... wink
    2. Kleber
      Kleber 3 December 2017 08: 51 New
      +4
      It's time to introduce a contraceptive tax, at least 1000 percent tax)))
    3. Rurikovich
      Rurikovich 3 December 2017 09: 00 New
      +6
      Quote: Fedorov
      School buses came up with where to bring children closer to school. sad

      We have long been so. Only because of economy - because of economy, teachers were fired, schools are only in large villages, buses are transported from nearby villages. Plus general population flight to large cities. So the population is somewhere within its 9,5 million. holds on for a long time, but its structure has changed
      1. Nikolai Grek
        Nikolai Grek 3 December 2017 18: 50 New
        +1
        Quote: Rurikovich
        general flight of the population to large cities.

        do not confuse this with extinction !!! wink wassat
        1. Rurikovich
          Rurikovich 3 December 2017 19: 33 New
          0
          Quote: Nikolai the Greek
          do not confuse this with extinction !!!

          The amount does not change from a change in the places of the terms what
          1. Nikolai Grek
            Nikolai Grek 3 December 2017 20: 01 New
            +1
            Quote: Rurikovich
            Quote: Nikolai the Greek
            do not confuse this with extinction !!!

            The amount does not change from a change in the places of the terms what

            what what upon extinction, just the same amount changes downward !! wassat wassat tongue tongue tongue
            1. Rurikovich
              Rurikovich 3 December 2017 20: 27 New
              0
              Quote: Nikolai the Greek
              upon extinction, just the same amount changes downward !!

              We do not have extinction, but redistribution wink tongue
              1. Nikolai Grek
                Nikolai Grek 3 December 2017 20: 41 New
                +1
                Quote: Rurikovich
                Quote: Nikolai the Greek
                upon extinction, just the same amount changes downward !!

                We do not have extinction, but redistribution wink tongue

                what what what Well, I’ve talked about the same thing !!! wassat tongue laughing laughing laughing
    4. sabakina
      sabakina 3 December 2017 12: 21 New
      +3
      Valery, 1975-1983. A B C D. went in two shifts. Kostroma, school number 38.
      1. gm9019
        gm9019 3 December 2017 12: 36 New
        0
        Quote: sabakina
        1975-1983 A B C D. went in two shifts. Kostroma, school number 38.

        we had 11-Z class! 1966, Leningrad, school number 235 winked
  7. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 3 December 2017 08: 43 New
    +4
    Today 32 million, tomorrow 25 million, what's the difference? For them, the main thing is that the ukronatsiks on the spot and the APU did not scatter. And let the departing Svidomo try to pump up rights in Europe, which actively advocated for Ukrainian "democracy" and "people's choice."
    1. Lelek
      Lelek 3 December 2017 15: 15 New
      +1
      Quote: rotmistr60
      rotmistr60


      Hi Gennady.
      Here's what zagogulina: the population of the non-dependent population is decreasing, and the appetites in the territory are increasing. The other day, Natsik fired at Donetsk containers with leaflets:

      One to one, as the Nazis during the Second World War and even the decoration of a soldier tore off the leaflets of that time.
  8. Piramidon
    Piramidon 3 December 2017 08: 48 New
    +1
    Everyone who knows how to work will run away, only those who can ride will remain. They then raise the economy nezalezhnoy.
  9. Fedorov
    Fedorov 3 December 2017 08: 58 New
    10
    At the same time, everyone was whining - how bad it was with the scoop, but the population growth was concrete, especially the birth rate increased after the dry hunchback law - the peasants began to go about their business, and not to thump. This is so, a little off topic, sorry. hi
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 3 December 2017 12: 24 New
      +4
      Valera, you forget how much BF-6 and brakes were drinking! Itself saw how loaders BF-6 in a glass twisted. And the statistics, she is .....
  10. ul_vitalii
    ul_vitalii 3 December 2017 08: 58 New
    11
    Residents of Ukraine seem to have resigned themselves, how quickly the good things are forgotten, usually the opposite is true. Slowly moving city, again cozy farmsteads, your little world, kobanchik, brushwood and splinter ...
  11. Alexander Sosnitsky
    Alexander Sosnitsky 3 December 2017 09: 17 New
    10
    I think 26 million are left, others say even less. Exactly half than under the USSR and how many died from the USSR in the Great Patriotic War. But no one wants to answer. Everyone is silent. But the Holodomor is celebrated. The finished bastard.
  12. loginovich
    loginovich 3 December 2017 09: 39 New
    +2
    If in the Russian Federation the guarantor claims that he has a population growth, this does not mean that it is true.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyYf6go-qJE
  13. Yoshi
    Yoshi 3 December 2017 09: 53 New
    +5
    Somewhere they wrote that no more than 25 million people were counted on the consumption of bread.
    Genocide.
  14. Zomanus
    Zomanus 3 December 2017 10: 02 New
    +3
    Still a lot, but I think that Petya will not let you down.
    By the way, our Primorsky Territory and the Amur Region are also
    are becoming more deserted.
  15. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 3 December 2017 10: 16 New
    +4
    You look at the population migration in our country. Soon, the entire population of Russia will be concentrated in a dozen cities, megacities. Muscovites flow abroad, the periphery to Moscow. Pull everyone into the city of anthills and do not have to spend money on roads, hospitals, schools scattered throughout the country. Yes, and manage and control easier.
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 3 December 2017 12: 29 New
      +4
      Vladimir Nikolaevich, at least there is a natural order in the anthill ...
    2. ando_bor
      ando_bor 3 December 2017 14: 38 New
      +1
      Quote: vladimirvn
      Soon, the entire population of Russia will be concentrated in a dozen cities, megacities.

      It is simply not correct to compare Russia with Ukraine, these are fundamentally different levels, GDP per capita, which is at par, that of PPP, pensions, and salaries in Russia are several (3-4) times higher.
      Russian problems are a growth problem, in terms of the number of migrant workers, Russia is second only to the United States, and some of these migrant workers are Ukrainians.
      1. Lelek
        Lelek 3 December 2017 15: 28 New
        0
        Quote: ando_bor
        ... and some of these guest workers are Ukrainians.


        Hey. Gaster from the southern republics in Russia is about 5 million (half registered), Gaster from the former Ukraine about 6 million (about 3,5 million registered), this is not counting the Chinese, Koreans and refugees from the BV. Americans who accepted the citizenship of the Russian Federation - about 300 people.
    3. Nikolai Grek
      Nikolai Grek 3 December 2017 19: 04 New
      +1
      Quote: vladimirvn
      Muscovites flow abroad

      Well, and lope according to your data leaked ??? wassat wassat laughing laughing
      1. vladimirvn
        vladimirvn 3 December 2017 19: 37 New
        0

        If you look at the data of the Federal State Statistics Service, the situation with the number of people who left Russia over the past 10 years is as follows:

        Год 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015
        Кол-во чел. 54061 47013 39508 32458 33578 36774 122751 186382 310496 353233
        http://passus.ru/migratsiya/emigratsiya-iz-rossii
        -statistika-po-godam.html
        1. Nikolai Grek
          Nikolai Grek 3 December 2017 20: 09 New
          +1
          Quote: vladimirvn

          If you look at the data of the Federal State Statistics Service, the situation with the number of people who left Russia over the past 10 years is as follows:

          Год 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015
          Кол-во чел. 54061 47013 39508 32458 33578 36774 122751 186382 310496 353233
          http://passus.ru/migratsiya/emigratsiya-iz-rossii
          -statistika-po-godam.html

          firstly, write about Moscow, but gives statistics on Russia !!! wassat wassat lol lol lol secondly, "... in 2014, 308 people left Russia (475 of them went to the CIS countries, 257 people left the USA, 324 went to Germany) ...". what Russian trample voluntarily live in the CIS countries ??? wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
  16. prior
    prior 3 December 2017 10: 31 New
    +4
    Two by two is four.
    There was no such country in the history - Ukraine. There was a republic within the USSR.
    Such a nation will not remain in history - the Ukrainian.
    But they could live, as part of Russia ..... how hundreds of small nations and nationalities live.
  17. bondxnumx
    bondxnumx 3 December 2017 11: 55 New
    +1
    The more weapons come to Ukraine and the enterprises are falling apart, the fewer people remain ---- World pattern!
  18. alexmach
    alexmach 3 December 2017 13: 26 New
    +1
    I began to take it into account - if you take the number of people working for 10 million and not count the residents of the Crimea, Donetsk and Lugaska - then somehow it happened.
    But there is one thing - to consider the residents of Zarabot to irrevocably leave incorrectly - a very substantial part of them return back or have this opportunity. Especially people who work in temporary low-paid jobs - and in my opinion the majority.
  19. German Titov
    German Titov 3 December 2017 14: 46 New
    +1
    Until 2014, they generally considered Crimea and the Donbass. How many left during the DB from Donbass- (more than "before the hib"). In Ukraine, there are no such statistics.
  20. rehev931
    rehev931 3 December 2017 18: 50 New
    0
    yeah ... there are more people than people !!! crying
  21. Comrade
    Comrade 3 December 2017 23: 00 New
    0
    This is just the beginning. After another 25 years, to the 50 anniversary of "independence", half of what is now available, that is, millions of 10-15, will remain there. And these remaining ones will continue to curse Comrade Stalin in chorus for the "genocide of the Ukrainians."
  22. LeonidL
    LeonidL 4 December 2017 04: 20 New
    0
    The less - the better ... for the owners of ukakaina. A land without “extra” invisible people is the ideal of Bandera. The Ost Hitler plan is being implemented in full.