Rodchenkov called himself a "selling soul" and promised to destroy Russian sport

The former head of the Moscow Anti-Doping Laboratory, the WADA informant Grigori Rodchenkov, who is under the American witness protection program, promised to bury the Russian Olympic movement, NTV.Ru.

Rodchenkov promised to make all possible attempts to provide evidence and cause irreparable harm to the national sport, as well as put an end to the career and reputation of all Russian athletes who are only thinking of participating in the Olympics.

I will make it so that I will have 100 samples, and I will destroy all the Olympic sport in Russia for the next five years!

- Deputy Prime Minister Vitaly Mutko threatened Rodchenkov.

At the same time, he boasts that “his price is rising,” and the Americans awarded him with an expensive apartment and car. Currently, the WADA informant is in Los Angeles, guarded by US intelligence agencies. In addition, he agreed with the opinion that he was "a terrible person and a corrupt soul."

The foreign press correctly writes that I am a terrible person and a selling soul ...

- rooted Rodchenkov.

Fight against a dope to me absolutely poh ... r. What infuriates me is that people who have no idea what the fight against doping is, did not do a single analysis, did not use blood, didn’t run a single kilometer, in general no one and nowhere begin to broadcast such fundamental, so to speak, manifestos

- declared fluent functionary.

In early November, the Investigation Committee of Russia announced that it had collected enough evidence that the WADA informant had destroyed the doping tests of athletes. SK offered WADA cooperation in the Rodchenkov case. Meanwhile, the IOC Commission believes that Rodchenkov "spoke the truth," giving explanations about the proposed scheme for concealing doping violations at the Olympics in Sochi.

Comments

[Zibelew]

Bastard he ... The question remains in the shadow: who recommended Rodchenkov to the post of head of RUSADA and who appointed? And where did Mutko look when the jambs from Rodchenkov went. Long before he washed off.

[Sofa General]

the question must be posed a little differently ...
the whole world (sports) is sitting on doping, this is clear to anyone, but here's to prove ...
the question must be asked: why did Rodchenko Suddenly, suddenly, decided to turn in all? They didn’t share it with him? Little unfastened? Well, he cannot be an ideological fighter - his face is not the same.
Question to Mutko - you did not give what you should? Or what? Or another "Rogozin" assigned his "offspring" to a "warm place"?

[Going]

We know how all traitors finish and we know what the United States will do to him when he ceases to be "useful."

[Sofa General]

So shit on him for later, he lives here and now

[Going]

Such people are afraid of their own shadow and I do not envy his life.

[Sofa General]

Everyone chooses for himself :)

[Going]

He lives in animal fear, and will die in him.

[Arzoo]

That is not, he is just not in fear. But why for the second year as officials from WADA have been flying quietly around the world, I don’t understand. The United States is catching our citizens, so we have a great opportunity to start a similar practice. And we’ll come up with a reason, anyone there.

[passing]

That is not, he is just not in fear. But why for the second year as WADA officials have been flying quietly around the world, I don’t understand

This is just not important, let our special services have a headache.
More important :

The question remains: who recommended Rodchenkov to the post of head of RUSADA and who appointed it? And where did Mutko look when the shoals from Rodchenkov went. Long before he washed off.

And why, after the start of the scandal, they raised him? Not forced to rake all this shit with the threat of dismissal, but raised. Where is Karl individual responsibility? The police authorities are fired when some kind of fast drinking vodka fills the neighbor’s face, for partying after 23 00. When will the head answer wisely?

[Going]

You are not asking convenient questions, which means we can only guess about the answer ... When was the last time you saw that officials would answer for something?

[CALL.]

At the same time, he boasts that "his price is rising," and the Americans awarded him with an expensive apartment and a car.

[kenig1]

Mutually is wise, but Rusado does not obey him.

[Going]

Clear your mind. What is it that someone disputes?

[Tatyana]

I read the comments of all users carefully.
Firstly, a criminal case has been instituted against Rodchenkov in the Russian Federation.
Secondly, getting Rodchenkov is easy. You need to catch American spies in the Russian Federation and exchange them for Rodchenkov.
Only Rodchenkova then needs not to be imprisoned in Russia, but to obtain from him the extradition of accomplices and to award him to capital punishment. For such cases, the death penalty must be returned to Russia.
It is necessary that the United States themselves surrender Russia to Rodchenkov.

[Tatyana]

In addition, I already wrote that there is no sense in shaking Rodchenkov alone, especially since he has computer access to the results of doping tests of athletes and can remotely change them to the side of a positive test. First, Rodchenkov needs to close this remote access to change sample results. Secondly, one cannot limit oneself to Rodchenkov alone, but one must also deal with members of the IOC and WADA.
What Russia needs to do:
1. Do not return any Olympic medals to Russian athletes and do not return prize money back to the IOC for anything. (The delivery of a medal also implies the return of a money prize by an athlete. Moreover, the prizes of athletes have long been spent.)
2. It is necessary for each athlete to file a lawsuit specifically with the courts of GENERAL jurisdiction - and on SPECIFIC OFFICERS OF IOC AND WADA. For the arbitration court in Lausani will not decide anything in favor of the Russian athletes, because, in fact, it is not sufficiently independent from the IOC and from WADA. This is all one sports industry. Therefore, every Russian athlete needs to file lawsuits in courts of general jurisdiction.
At the same time, Russian athletes need each IOC and WADA official to file a claim, demanding that they reimburse the athlete-plaintiff MONEY COMPENSATION for large amounts of moral damages and for the lost profit of taking a prize in competitions at the Olympic Games.
3. File a lawsuit against WADA for defamation and for depriving WADA of a monopoly on determining what is and what is not doping. And it turns out that the analogue of American meldonium, authorized by WADA in the USA, by WADA is not doping.
4. The Russian Federation must provide Russian athletes with good and free lawyers for them to conduct their lawsuits in courts of general jurisdiction.

[Pirogov]

Quote: Arzoo

That is not, he is just not in fear. But why for the second year as officials from WADA have been flying quietly around the world, I don’t understand. The United States is catching our citizens, so we have a great opportunity to start a similar practice. And we’ll come up with a reason, anyone there.

You need to start with this Judah Radchenkov, and the rest ,,, comrades ,,,, are thoughtful.

[vovanpain]

The foreign press correctly writes that I am a terrible person and a selling soul ...

An ordinary coward and a small dirty trickster.

a WADA informant is located in Los Angeles, guarded by US intelligence agencies.

It is a pity that Russia is not the USSR, no special services would have helped.

[Going]

Nothing, this business is fixable, the main thing is not to turn off the intended path.

[osoboye_mneniye]

Quote: vovanpain

It is a pity that Russia is not the USSR, no special services would have helped.

You would first compare the medal counts of the USSR and Russia, and then you would think about special services. Russia now on medals to the USSR as on foot to the moon. That's what you need to grieve about, and not about the special services.
In the USSR, in principle, such a situation as with Rodchenkov was impossible, because sports in the USSR developed on other principles than now in Russia.

[AID.S]

Quote: Arzoo

here we have a great opportunity to start a similar practice

Where do you think to catch? In Abkhazia?

[The black]

Quote: Going

He lives in animal fear, and will die in him.

... he will die not only in fear, but also in complete shit, because a little more and he will become of no interest to any of the current patrons, after which he will be thrown out as a used condom ...

[Going]

The possibility of its liquidation, with the subsequent accusation of Russia, is not ruled out, can you imagine what will happen?

[The black]

Quote: Going

The possibility of its liquidation, with the subsequent accusation of Russia, is not ruled out, can you imagine what will happen?

Not completely out of the question.

[andrej-shironov]

Dear Black! Here I do not agree with you. It will look very sewn with white thread. Our "partners" understand this.

[Going]

Quote: andrej-shironov

Dear Black! Here I do not agree with you. It will look very sewn with white thread. Our "partners" understand this.

Our "partners" understand only power, but here we miss the initiative.

[Silkway0026]

Well, yes, yes ... Won Rezun (Suvorov) is doing well in England and does not blow a mustache. He wrote a bunch of books, published them, and most of them - WE HAVE !!!!!!!!! So, it’s not very that we are strong in the part of “find and punish”. This is not I.V. Stalin and the ice ax for Trotsky.

[NN52]

Where is Belenko?

[captain]

Quote: Silkway0026

Well, yes, yes ... Won Rezun (Suvorov) is doing well in England and does not blow a mustache. He wrote a bunch of books, published them, and most of them - WE HAVE !!!!!!!!! So, it’s not very that we are strong in the part of “find and punish”. This is not I.V. Stalin and the ice ax for Trotsky.

Grigory Rodchenkov, whose biography begins with the 1958 year, was born in Moscow. His mother was associated with medicine, worked as a doctor in the Kremlin hospital. - Read more on FB.ru: http://fb.ru/article/268753/grigoriy-rodchenkov-b
iografiya-foto. As the guys the Communists trained the staff. And they say in Soviet times there was no doom.

[Alexander 3]

It is necessary to award him a 9 gram gift.

[Going]

Any way would do.

[You Vlad]

Ha, what’s they really afraid of? He sold it, maybe they used it, like this one, well, one-time! All that can be squeezed out of it will be squeezed out, and then, well, whoever does not like traitors, will use it!

[Going]

Because it’s dead. he will bring even more benefit to his masters.

[You Vlad]

Quote: Going

Because it’s dead. he will bring even more benefit to his masters.

Just dead, no one needs him ... because they will forget about him the next day

[Going]

I’m not sure that the victim of the Putin regime is blinded from him and they will dance on this.

[Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.]

The birch is dead and now it’s somehow not remembered. If this one dies, in six months they will forget it.

[Going]

Birch was not in the hands of the United States.

[My doctor]

Quote: Going

He lives in animal fear, and will die in him.

Not all people tend to fall into animal fear

[Going]

Is he a man? It seems to me that he has fallen from this state.

[Arzoo]

Since Rodchenkova, who gives perjury, now you will not find. Or with great difficulty, that it’s not worthwhile. It is necessary to capture people from WADA in third countries and deliver to the Russian Federation, and if this does not seem possible, then decide with them locally. Of course, after the Olympics and the World Cup.

[Sofa General]

Well, first, the IC of the Russian Federation should have a “case" on them.

[Arzoo]

Yes, things can be done retroactively. That is it.

[Going]

You should not rush into such matters.

[Tusv]

Quote: Arzoo

Since Rodchenkova, who gives perjury, now you will not find.

In our century, and not find it? Only two ways will help:
Number One - Become a US Prezik
Number Twu - Lead Expedition to Mars,
Other methods like:
Sex change, give birth and any other crap this will not hide.
Will pop up
and Will wait, "For the rest of his life" of his Mercader

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Going

Such people are afraid of their own shadow and I do not envy his life.

And why is it better or worse than those officials who undermine the country's economic or military power?

[Going]

Nothing and they must be put on a par with him.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Going

Nothing and they must be put on a par with him.

Your golden words! I consider the theft of budget money a betrayal of the interests of the motherland.

[Going]

Find more those who could do this, but for now they can only squish with their noses.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Going

Find more who could do it

And what to look for them, they are all in plain sight. All in the posts.
This is the theater of the absurd, when the president speaks about the environment of the redhead consisting of agents.
What else can you say? If only the conspiracy theological theory that the red "mole" and through it the desa goes to the camp of the "partners". But, to believe this, one must be unconscious

[Going]

The position does not give legal capacity.

[Andrey NM]

It is interesting why the majority of liberoids have various defects: cross-eyed, burr, lisping? Remember Novodvorskaya and her friend Kostya Natanovich, Gozman, Rodchenkov, a former professor at Moscow State University (I forgot my name, it often shines on the box), old Alekseeva, etc.

[You Vlad]

Quote: Andrey NM

It is interesting why the majority of liberoids have various defects: cross-eyed, burr, lisping?

I think the psyche is connected in childhood and adolescence, they now baled, they take revenge.

[Faith]

The answer is on the surface, they are united by a common nationality, in which the% of such oblique-curved ones is very high.

[Logall]

Vit, it needs to be stolen! Judge as a traitor! For others to dislike ...
He is a real traitor to the homeland! There is no other language ...

[Going]

I am not a seer, but I hope to live to see the United States betray him to Russia as a criminal.

[SRC P-15]

Rodchenkov called himself a "selling soul" and promised to destroy Russian sport

Dog mom!

[Going]

No need to offend the dogs, this creature is below the dung flies.

[SRC P-15]

Quote: Going

No need to offend the dogs, this creature is below the dung flies.

If moderators, as an exception, allowed this scum to be called words that he deserves, then instead of comments there would be an unrestrained mat! And I smoothed out my anger a bit (dogs have nothing to do with it) - well, there are no other words !!!!!

[Going]

Yes, I understand you, I can hardly restrain myself.

[andrej-shironov]

Looking to live forever?

[Going]

No, this is not possible, and it is not necessary, there is simply an internal conviction.

[andrej-shironov]

I guess I will disappoint you. "There is no extradition from the Don ....."

[poquello]

Quote: Logall

Vit, it needs to be stolen! Judge as a traitor! For others to dislike ...
He is a real traitor to the homeland! There is no other language ...

Well, finally I do not agree, what did he betray there? bourgeois slander elevated to the rank of evidence

[Going]

He betrayed the homeland.

[poquello]

Quote: Going

He betrayed the homeland.

damn, it’s like in a joke about the spirit of worms, and the medical functionary will begin to compose fairy tales about Russia as the center of black transplantology, and from the warriors it’s the center of chemical weapons, and the financier is the center for money laundering, the violent fantasy of the dissident’s sick hatred, which makes so much noise and dust around the dreamer? it’s not the reason - to raise slander to the rank of truth by the bourgeois and the flimsy reaction of our sports functionaries

[KCA]

Fuck he gave up, he’s also a schizophrenic, and you can see in the face, and they said that he hid a mental illness when applying for a job in RUSADO, request a psychiatric examination and send everyone out

[Tusv]

Quote: Logall

Vit, it needs to be stolen! Judge as a traitor! For others to dislike ...

Cut the tail to the very head. We always have time. Here you need, purely feminine, to clog up so that it really was creepy

[The black]

With officials like ours, Rodchenkov, unfortunately, will really destroy all of Russian sport! They have nothing but words and lowing! But Rodchenkov wants money and takes advantage of it!

[Going]

I do not envy him now, he walks and looks around.

[Reserve officer]

That the Ministry of Sports, that the Olympic Committee, that sports committees - are awash with enough mediocre officials. I know what I'm saying - my wife worked as a coach in the Russian Olympic team in athletics. Relations with the athletes were excellent, but any contact with the so-called sports officials was nervous breakdowns and sleepless nights. Not only that, they consider women trainers to be merely corrupt girls; similar offers to my wife were often poured. And he left the team after my "serious" conversation with the current official (by the way - the Olympic champion) on this subject. The man clearly did not expect protection. So they chose to fire.
All these "fathers of sport" have a stigma in such a gun that any trial is a guaranteed article of the Criminal Code. That is why there is complete silence. By the way, my son used to play hockey professionally. I went to the tests in SKA. But his data of gentlemen officials were not interested. The offer was different - pay (a very good amount) - and your son will play in the same troika with Sushinsky. Only now they forgot to ask the SKA coach and Sushinsky himself. When we told our son about this - SKA was sent very far.
So all hopes for restoring justice in relation to our athletes can be associated only with the first person of the state. The rest of the leadership there is a corrupt swamp. Rodchenkov just fit into this system. And if something is corrected there, then the whole sports leadership needs, in fact, to arrange the 37 year.

[freejack]

if something is corrected there, then the entire sports leadership

I carefully read it. And ... well, not that I didn’t know this, I guessed something ...

This is the third year that the entire sports elite of the country is trolling and everyone is silent ...

the guarantor is silent, the iPhone is silent. Well then, it’s kind of dumb to sink so low ... so ... why are Zhukov and Mutko silent ??? ...

It seems that they were ready for such a development of events. I thought that mass protests would start, filing lawsuits, protest marches, angry speeches by athletes in the media.

Where is all this ?! Silence, as in a swamp in a dense forest .... ((

[tol100v]

Quote: Going

We know how all traitors finish and we know what the United States will do to him when he ceases to be "useful."

As with used contraceptive. But this is not the main thing. All SGA recently especially, turn into this product number 2, and darned with barbed wire!

[Going]

Let him wait now.

[Kent0001]

On the count of it. Nowhere else to go. This one like Judas on a branch does not strangle. finished.

[Slovak]

Why wait for mercy from nature, or the United States? He had long had to die of a heart attack when falling from a bridge, after hitting a car in front of which he shot himself in the temple, having his throat cut by a noose and a deadly bite of a black mamba

[Zibelew]

That's how they sell their homeland ... And only much later it turns out: who paid him and how much. The problem of doping is, of course. Only Western athletes use it more and more advanced recipes.

[Going]

Doctors allow them, if we publish everything that Western athletes use, then our angels.

[andrej-shironov]

Listen to our television less.

[Going]

And you do not read their newspapers.

[andrej-shironov]

Absolute agree, do not read. Neither ours nor them. I do not need someone else's chewing to comprehend the meanings. His mental apparatus is enough.

[Azim77]

Quote: Sofa General

why Rodchenko Suddenly, suddenly, decided to turn in all? Didn’t you share it with him? Little unfastened? Well, he cannot be an ideological fighter - his face is not the same.
Question to Mutko - you did not give what you should? Or what? Or another "Rogozin" assigned his "offspring" to a "warm place"?

Apparently, yes. Strongly offended by something. Hence these words-threats, "I’ll go all the way to the end", which are addressed specifically to those who did it, including Mutko personally. Something is hidden under the carpet .. Although maybe it was just megalomania, but he was shown the place, underestimated so to speak.

[Igor V]

Quote: Sofa General

the question must be posed a little differently ...
the whole world (sports) is sitting on doping, this is clear to anyone, but here's to prove ...
the question must be asked: why did Rodchenko Suddenly, suddenly, decided to turn in all? They didn’t share it with him? Little unfastened? Well, he cannot be an ideological fighter - his face is not the same.
Question to Mutko - you did not give what you should? Or what? Or another "Rogozin" assigned his "offspring" to a "warm place"?

You would not compare the moron with Rogozin. Rogozin works and the modern Russian Army owes a lot to him. And what made this hero of urine good is unknown.

[Sofa General]

Igor.
Special for you: Rogozin - a jerk that takes a warm place. What the army owes him is another question.

[Igor V]

Quote: Sofa General

Igor.
Special for you: Rogozin - a jerk that takes a warm place. What the army owes him is another question.

If the head of the Military-Industrial Committee is insignificant, then the decisions of the military-industrial complex are null and void. What then happens in Syria? You think you write! Even if you are an enemy of Russia, you should still respect modern Russian weapons, in fact.

[Strashila]

"the whole world (sports) is doping, it’s clear to anyone, but prove it ..." prove it, if you can’t prove it, you can falsify it ... adjust ... a bunch of options, the main thing is to access the materials ... how before the fence ... and after. Rodchenkov had access, he and his accomplices ... and what he so smartly screamed ... it means things went to failure ... so they decided to work ahead of schedule ... obviously they could take it on a hot one.

[Smog]

Quote: Sofa General

Or another "Rogozin" assigned his "offspring" to a "warm place"?

Another Rogozin can not just appoint a offspring. Accreditation for this position is given by WADA. Hence, why it was not removed. If removed RusADA would not have accreditation. Although as it turned out, even worse. But the version that someone threw it here, very much has the right to exist.

[voyaka uh]

"why Rodchenko Suddenly, suddenly, decided to turn in all?" ///

And because organs ran into him in an arrogance - his sister was arrested, who was selling dope - cocktails made according to his signature recipes. He was offended, of course: he "made" the Olympics in Sochi, and instead of gratitude ...

[Going]

Are you so knowledgeable? That is, all the same, business.

[osoboye_mneniye]

Quote: voyaka uh

"why Rodchenko Suddenly, suddenly, decided to turn in all?" ///

And because organs ran into him in an arrogance - his sister was arrested, who was selling dope - cocktails made according to his signature recipes. He was offended, of course: he "made" the Olympics in Sochi, and instead of gratitude ...

I agree. Here, everything is much more interesting than local readers see. Firstly, it is obvious that he is trolling all about the apartment and the car. If you read his brief biography, it is clear that he has it all and so, a hundred times more, and without any America.
https://ria.ru/spravka/20160513/1432242762.html
Judging by the information from the link, he was really just used and thrown out in Russia. I do not think that he destroyed the samples from nothing to do by arbitrariness. And the necessity of their destruction was hardly reached only by his merits. Such things are not done alone - too many people, and not fools, participate in doping schemes. They just made him extreme.
Therefore, apparently, he decided to lime the officials of Russian sports.
I am very interested in how the situation will develop further. Everyone who played in sports at least at the level of the Russian championship knows the state of sport in Russia and it is clear that enchanting victories in the team event at the Olympics for Russia will not be possible soon. At least look at the comparison of the USSR with Russia in terms of the mass and accessibility of sports, the size of the population in the country, etc., not to mention the general financial situation, it is clear that the level of sports in Russia can not be compared with the Soviet one.
Winter olympiads for Russia have always come out so-so - from 1994 to 2010, places 1, 3, 5, 4, 11.
And here in 2014 bam - and the first place in the team event at the Olympics ... fantastic!
Krikunov divorced today ... and couch athletes.

[Overlock]

I agree, he was overboard and decided to take revenge on the systems that rejected him.

[Overlock]

The UK said that the former head of the Moscow Anti-Doping Laboratory, according to witnesses, sold doping to athletes, which he purchased in the States, and then destroyed their real doping tests.

They also reminded the case of the sister of Grigory Rodchenkov, Marina, three-time running champion of the world (in the past, Marina, by the way, was a forensic expert and a police captain): in 2013, she was sentenced for selling prohibited - also doping - drugs. The case ended with a suspended sentence ...

“When Rodchenkov offered doping drugs to athletes, on the one hand, he promised“ incredible ”results at competitions, on the other, that he himself would hide the fact of substance use by substituting doping tests,” says our source in the UK. - Since his position just suggested such opportunities, people believed. We believe that he himself was the author and organizer of such a scheme, although now he pretends to be a simple performer, he says that he allegedly received a command from somewhere “from above”. The problem is that it is now difficult to establish exactly how many athletes became its victims.

And what about Marina Rodchenkova?

“It was an absolutely clear story,” says one of the operatives who detained the woman. - At that moment, Marina Rodchenkova was a coach at the Experimental School of Higher Sports Athletics. She herself had to teach her charges that doping should not be used. But instead, she offered them “proven” substances to enhance the effect of training and for a better result during the competition.

It was about testosterone propinate and two more chemical compounds. It is proved that she acquired a total of about 50 grams of drugs, which she then sold in ampoules at $ 5 apiece. We watched Marina for a long time. She behaved very carefully - we think her past had an effect (she was a police captain in the Department of Internal Affairs of the Western Administrative District of Moscow). She usually sent her husband to the deal. We detained him near the Molodezhnaya metro station while transferring the drug ...

By the way, then a search was conducted in the house of Grigory Rodchenkov, but then the suspicions about him were removed.

[Dart2027]

Quote: Sofa General

why Rodchenko Suddenly, suddenly, decided to turn in all

And why do you think that suddenly? It is possible that he was the so-called "sleeping".

Quote: Sofa General

Question to Mutko

Rather, to the FSB.

[210ox]

I have another question ... Why is this shit still alive?

[Sofa General]

Because it cannot be cleaned now. If he chokes on a pie at Trump's reception, this is one thing, and if he gulps a seagull with polonium, it's completely different.

[210ox]

Well, let him take a sip from a test tube with the urine of a rabid rat ..

Quote: Sofa General

Because it cannot be cleaned now. If he chokes on a pie at Trump's reception, this is one thing, and if he gulps a seagull with polonium, it's completely different.

[NKT]

I also spend polonium on it .... the edges are warm there - I snake in slippers)

[Tusv]

Quote: NKT

To spend more on such polonium

I don’t feel sorry for the “good man”, but this one deserves a more “warm” attitude and a “generous” cut. Mine all the toilets, where this hero wants to go, so that the excrement really comes out of my mouth, I think it will be real for good Why do you need excessive cruelty

[Strashila]

"If he chokes on a pie at Trump's reception" ... this will be further evidence that Trump is an agent of the Kremlin.

[Smog]

Quote: Sofa General

If he chokes on a pie at Trump's reception

I don’t understand why our mission was not given to Agent Donnie yet. I don’t understand, that's all.

APEC leaders walked together to take pictures.
- How did you get there? - asked Trump, while adjusting his unbuttoned jacket, which meant: "I can’t talk about business - I'm under the hood."
Putin realized that Tramp had studied the instructions, which he quietly passed to him during the first handshake.
If Trump had not been herded, his jacket would have been buttoned.
“Thank you, it flew well,” Putin answered, which meant: “Take care of yourself, Donald, one Kennedy is enough for us” ...................

[Dart2027]

Quote: Sofa General

and if gull slurp with polonium

Polonium is to the British special services. Gaidar, who was poisoned at the same time, survived because he returned to Russia, and Litvinenko did not have enough intelligence.

[NEXUS]

Quote: 210ox

I have another question ... Why is this shit still alive?

Something is thought to me that "the old woman will not suffer for long ..."

[Incvizitor]

Why is this shit still alive?

That’s why the junta is alive and the “presidents” of all the Baltic states, because the Turkish fighter who shot down our plane is alive and the two shooting the pilots — foreign intelligence, or whatever it’s like now (GRU GS) seems to be the bottom. ..

[Chertt]

Rodchenko held high posts in the Ministry of Sports of Russia. As such rot, for many years it has steered our sport. Maybe you need your sports officials to ask around

[Monos]

Dwarf with impaired pride and megalomania. I can, with a high degree of probability, guess how he will end

[Going]

An option is not ruled out, but they will help him, but blame Russia.

[Monos]

Good evening, Victor.

Quote: Going

An option is not ruled out, but they will help him, but blame Russia.

Ahhh ...., no difference. The charges still don't work. Let them slander.

[Going]

Good evening , but they don’t need it, he will work for them dead.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Going

An option is not ruled out, but they will help him, but blame Russia.

There are already so many accusations in our direction that, as they say - "And we will not notice, and God will not see ..."

[Going]

But they will have an extra reason.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Going

But they will have an extra reason.

Chu ... you might think that someone is looking for reasons in this matter.

[Going]

They are still those collectors

[NEXUS]

Quote: Going

They are still those collectors

Well, yes ... not syphilitics, but philatelists ...

[Going]

Well, duck is interesting.

[Sofa General]

Only one thing is really interesting. Will he write a letter of repentance for suicide or not.

[Igor V]

Quote: Zibelew

Bastard he ... The question remains in the shadow: who recommended Rodchenkov to the post of head of RUSADA and who appointed? And where did Mutko look when the jambs from Rodchenkov went. Long before he washed off.

So recently Mutko said that this stump was turning to him, saying that he has evidence against Vada. But Mutko took it and told the chief of this very vada about this. After that, the suit went. This figure still had someone to blame.

[Monarchist]

Let me suggest: if you decide to “wet your bast shoes” (by the way, this expression had practical meaning: the peasants carefully checked their bast shoes before setting off on the road and, if they dried up, soaked) he carefully followed all the rules so that there were no obstacles , jambs are not allowed. Such "cunning" without soap will climb into the chef's anus, they will look out for everything, leave and lay

[Awaz]

when he was appointed, all the liberal trash unanimously shouted to Putin and Mudko that this was a corrupt and drug dealer. Unfortunately they were right. Although they probably knew everything in advance ... Therefore, the authorities themselves screwed up with this character and everything that happens completely on the conscience of both Mudko and even Putin. Here is such a shit ...

[rocket757]

Our wise authorities screwed up more than once. It turns out that we are teaching others, but ourselves ... oh rake, oh still rake, oh-oh-oh-oh yeah, how many of them ???
No one ever answered NEVER !!! for some reason, the thought comes - and whether the comrades Yezhov, Yagoda, Beria were wrong, the order was then and great things were done ... and there were plenty of real enemies around !!!
Okay, so I, in a fit of "righteous anger, came up with."

[voyaka uh]

But this drug dealer supplied branded drug cocktails to all athletes in Sochi, destroying all their urine samples and replacing them with “clean” one. Medals poured from a cornucopia. And no one objected. And then organs "ran over" him. And he dumped until they killed.

[Going]

Tell me, where did you get such information from, I’m without banter ... if you know this, then why are they proving this not to M or X?

[voyaka uh]

Yes, all this is from the open press ... A scam with a dope at the Olympics in Sochi was of such an unprecedented scale that the IOC went nuts - such a greedy had never been seen before.
Before the competition, athletes received alcoholic cocktails with a mixture of strong anabolic steroids (they were selected for men and women, and for sports).
Handed over urine. Urine poured into the sewer and replaced with "clean" (which was regularly supplied from Moscow). Simple and harsh.
Therefore, all Russian officials are silent so that they do not have to speak in court.

[Dart2027]

Quote: voyaka uh

Yes, all this is from the open press ...

That is, there is no evidence?

Quote: voyaka uh

Therefore, all Russian officials are silent so that they do not have to speak in court.

Whose ships?

[Tatyana]

voyaka uh
Yes, all this is from the open press ... A scam with a dope at the Olympics in Sochi was of such an unprecedented scale that the IOC went nuts - such a greedy had never been seen before.

Alexey! You are making a logical mistake in cause and effect. First there was the unproven accusatory “confession” of Rodenkov, and then publications in the open press. And not vice versa. And you put the cart in front of the horse. This is wrong with you, this is a mistake.

Before the competition, athletes received alcoholic cocktails with a mixture of strong anabolic steroids (they were selected for men and women, and for sports).
Handed over urine. Urine poured into the sewer and replaced with "clean" (which was regularly supplied from Moscow). Simple and harsh.

Ha! First, the how much urine was needed for athletes to write, then to swap samples imperceptibly?
Second. Do you even imagine what will happen to urine if it is stored for a long time for overflow? There will be a trillion times more bacteria there than in the just taken sample !!!
Thirdly. They said that the jars with samples were opened, now they supposedly just replaced them. Where is the truth?
And everything is exclusively from the words of Rodchenkov !!!
Wherein. At what point in his banal diary appeared sincere confessions of doping crimes - before fleeing to America or after - only Rodchenkov himself knows. But in the diary is not only the real confession of the doping machinist, but also voiced the so-called Rodchenkov cocktail "Duchess".
Besides. Wherein Rodchenkov suddenly admitted that Rodchenkov had taken the recipe for the same Duchess from the FERMIKANTSEV. And now Rodchenkov is trying to convince the world that this American cocktail, to which he himself gave the name "Duchess" and there is a reason for the victories of Russian athletes.
Where is the logic?!!! There is no logic.
And when you consider that Rodchenkov did suicide (hara-kiri), though unsuccessfully, and lying in a mental hospital, then with Rodchenkov generally bribes are smooth! Therefore, all the claims of Russia to the officials of WALA and MOR are fully justified!

Therefore, all Russian officials are silent so that they do not have to speak in court

Zraste !!! And you, Alexei, believe that precisely because of this, WADA and the IOC have been dragging their decision for more than 3 years, leaving no time for Russian athletes to protest it ?! I just have no words for you!

[Dart2027]

Actually, I'm not Alexey.

[Tatyana]

Quote: Dart2027

Actually, I'm not Alexey.

And I didn’t turn to you, but to voyaka uh, although my post comes after yours.
Always pay attention to the author of the quoted quote in the comment itself! It says voyaka uh. You will then have no questions for the opponent.

[Dart2027]

Quote: Tatiana

And I didn’t turn to you, but to voyaka uh, although my post comes after your

I noticed, and wanted to say that you were mistaken when you made a link to the one to whom you answer.

[Tatyana]

Quote: Dart2027

Quote: Tatiana

And I didn’t turn to you, but to voyaka uh, although my post comes after your

I noticed, and wanted to say that you were mistaken when you made a link to the one to whom you answer.

I understood what you mean. I have no mistake here. I simply supported your point of view with my post and disclosed my point of view regarding the user voyaka uh, putting together our general three-way polemic for ease of reading in a single thread so that it does not crumble in the future for general perception by readers.

[voyaka uh]

“So there is no evidence?” ///

If there were no evidence, then Putin would not laugh it off
about scratches on test tubes, and would fight for the medals of his athletes
like a lion (as he did when he was breaking through the Olympics
in Sochi). And Mutko, and other sports figures would also scream loudly.
The fact of the matter is that the evidence - the slaughter - is full. Therefore they are silent.

[Dart2027]

Quote: voyaka uh

The fact of the matter is that the evidence - the slaughter - is full

Well, where are they?

Quote: voyaka uh

and would fight for the medals of his athletes like a lion

With whom? With people who make a witness of a person who calls himself a “corrupt soul” and boasts that he has received “an apartment and a car”? Fuck what a witness.

[voyaka uh]

"Well, where are they?" ////

As where? In the international WADA, in the IOC.

[Dart2027]

Quote: voyaka uh

As where? In the international WADA, in the IOC

The only "evidence" is the evidence of some defector who calls himself a bastard.

[Tatyana]

voyaka uh Today, 12: 25 ↑
If there were no evidence, then Putin would not laugh it off
about scratches on test tubes, and would fight for the medals of his athletes
like a lion (as he did when he was breaking through the Olympics
in Sochi). And Mutko, and other sports figures would also scream loudly.
The fact of the matter is that the evidence - the slaughter - is full. Therefore they are silent.

Alexey! Are you really so naive or just pretending to be him? The same to me, compared the incomparable international situation of the 2014 of the year and the end of the 2017 of the year! Putin, what, in your opinion, should always and everywhere work in manual mode? Of course not! He, as president of the country, has corresponding officials in the government of the Russian Federation for this!
And then, you, Alexei, simply ignore the objective facts of the behavior of officials of the WADA and the IOC. Have you ever dealt with legal proceedings and the defendants ’attempt to“ drain ”the lawsuit on the brakes in court, as well as with deliberate delays in administrative and judicial cases? Looks like no.
So, read carefully again my post that you just commented on.

[voyaka uh]

Not. A few more people testified. The whole comp. The laboratory database was copied and sent to the IOC. And these data confirmed the evidence of Rodchenkov. If he hadn’t escaped, they would have killed him.
Two from his lab spanked (sudden fatal heart attacks).
Mafia vs Mafia. While the doping mafia was working on a medal, she was loved and appreciated. When she began to light up - they tried to eliminate it. But did not have time.

[Skarpzd]

right here from Moscow ??? urine ?? and closer what? no urine?

[Dr. Serg]

Objections 1 - take anabolics one-time, before the competition, it makes no sense - for the hormones to start working, you need time and a long exchange rate, and the athletes participated in other competitions (championships and cups of the World, Europe, qualifying tournaments) and there they were clean 2- alcohol is even more fun, to run “on the fun” you need to be smoothed right at the start, otherwise, with a light hangover, good results are doubtful (it seemed, the starting gate, our skiers get the chikushka and, with the words “For Victory,” they drink together) 3- the punishment of specific athletes - if the test is positive - there are no questions, but if his samples are clean, what kind of disqualification could be ?? 4- WADA certified our laboratory, which means that having issued a certificate of conformity, they took responsibility for the quality of its work and, if there are jambs and violations, WADA should answer .... well, and urine from Moscow was not closer to kindergartens ?? In schools, it’s already dangerous to take urine .. they could "smoke"))))

[voyaka uh]

"WADA certified our laboratory, which means that by issuing a certificate of conformity, they took responsibility for the quality of its work" ////

And this stunned them: in the history of sports there was no precedent to
a laboratory designed to combat doping would have distributed it - moreover
massively and centrally, under state cover!
The scam was incredible. Therefore, WADA is crushing all the Russian athletes in a rage now. Sochi fake medals are also expensive for “clean” athletes. And for years to come.

[Svarog]

Quote: Zibelew

And where did Mutko look when the shoals from Rodchenkov went. Long before he washed off.

Mutko exactly the same as in the rest and 95% of our ruling class. It’s just Mutko at the feeding trough and he’s good, but they didn’t give it to him and he decided to earn money.

[Black_Vatnik]

He is not a bastard, he is a professional provocateur. We will not call a soldier of the enemy army a scum just because he obeys the order, right?
Bastards are those who allowed him to occupy a high post in our office.
Mutko recently said that he was not a bit ashamed of the doping scandal. I will say more, if we will perform less worthily at the World Cup (which I sincerely do not want), then these jackets will again come to the fore with their faces, as if they were winning. So it was already

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: Zibelew

And where did Mutko look when the jambs from Rodchenkov went.

So ... then he and MUTKO ......!

[Primoos]

This is not even a pawn, so dandruff. And this dandruff will squeamishly shake off when used. He is that! He is! I thought of myself. Nothingness with megalomania. Cum shitty. Such an abomination is despised by all.

[ALEX_SHTURMAN]

And Mutko, as in the songs from the cartoon "is not to blame for anything." It seems that the war should begin in our country, then they’ll probably only shoot stupid ministers!
Everything is clear about America, I’m interested in how long Mutko, Kudrins, Chubais, Fursenki, Nabiulins and the most important Dimon patifon will be.

[Vend]

Quote: Zibelew

Bastard he ... The question remains in the shadow: who recommended Rodchenkov to the post of head of RUSADA and who appointed? And where did Mutko look when the jambs from Rodchenkov went. Long before he washed off.

However, the pretzel was apparently scared. Began to think how to get out. Late he caught himself.

[Baloo]

Quote: Zibelew

Bastard he ... The question remains in the shadow: who recommended Rodchenkov to the post of head of RUSADA and who appointed? And where did Mutko look when the jambs from Rodchenkov went. Long before he washed off.

When do I see this face the first thought is a schizophrenic or drug addict?
Ceruli were caught in the trade in anabolics, they were offered a job and a star-striped patchport. Which will exchange the salary of 700 thousand per month for vague prospects over the ocean puddle.
Far from this topic, but the picture is. The unresolved question is, what, on the eve of the Olympics, this shabby abomination completely fell out of the control of the FSB, is this possible? Then questions to the office, where are the actions in relation to the involved "politically short-sighted" long-witted (or accomplices ????).

[lis-ik]

Scum, of course, do not sin in the homeland, but is there any doubt?

[Vard]

Now I’ve watched how easily and naturally the Norwegians and the French take out the world biathlon in one wicket ... No one has any doubt that they are clean ...

[Sofa General]

so they are all asthmatics :) and are taking medications with the permission of the same WADA for asthma :) with doping :)

[tol100v]

Quote: Sofa General

so they are all asthmatics :) and are taking medications with the permission of the same WADA for asthma :) with doping :)

I apologize for not having time to read your post.

[tol100v]

Quote: Vard

. No one doubts that they are pure ...

Well, they are ALL asthmatics!

[Strashila]

They are not clean ... they are all asthmatics and other.

[razved]

Liquid around ...... with this type (initially, when you were led by the WADA proposal and removed it from RusADA), and now we disintegrate. And for a long time we will ...

[Vard]

That's for sure ... and that's because our sports officials, a herd of not scared idiots ...

[razved]

Yes, or just oh.

[tv70]

We have most of these officials, and not just sports, unfortunately ...

[NEXUS]

But is there really no opportunity in the FSB to drag this amphibian into Russia? Matrassovsky FBI is not shy and grabs our citizens around the world, and here this muskrat sits and stinks raises ...

[dr.star75]

Not yet. Perhaps Mercador is sharpening his ice ax somewhere

[Chertt]

Quote: dr.star75

Perhaps Mercador is sharpening his ice ax somewhere

Your words in bronze need to be minted, And already in Russia, we will pray for the rest of his rotten little soul

[dr.star75]

I don’t hint at anything, but any defector who betrayed our homeland must wait for a “notice” between the shoulder blades.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Chertt

And already in Russia, we will pray for the repose of his rotten little soul

The soul of Judas cannot be rested a priori. At least put candles from Sevastopol to Vladivostok in a row ...

[Silkway0026]

our FSB should deal with our sports functionaries.
My son’s wife, 19 years old, seven-time champion of Russia, European bronze medalist (I won’t speak, I will get the girl) - still not awarded the title of Master of Sports. The hints are pretty transparent - you need to pay attention. The amount is not discussed.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Silkway0026

our FSB should deal with our sports functionaries.

Oh, I would have to return the oprichnina ... otherwise Siberia is no longer cleaned from snow.

[Incvizitor]

It’s just normal to destroy such ones right away, just as with the Chechen terrorists, another would be a lesson.

[Million]

I think that there are many people like Rodchenkov in the upper echelons of power.

[Egorovich]

The future mrazo.ty Rodchenkova - or chatter somewhere, or die in a quiet, also somewhere. And it seems that running is not long.

[tol100v]

Quote: Egorovich

, or die in a quiet, just somewhere.

He will die from the hands of his new "masters", and the blame will be laid on the insidious Russians! Vileness is the SGA Policy!

[Egorovich]

Such "people" simply should not live.

[Silkway0026]

There will be nothing. And all because we have our own snout in fluff and in sports such a garbage and bribery that we, everywhere you poke, there will be punctures everywhere. Alas and ah.

[Monarchist]

"I am a terrible person and a corrupt soul" Thank God: Rodchenko himself to confirm what it is. Betrayal is always disgusting, and the open bragging of its venality is three times disgusting.

[Reserve officer]

I won’t be surprised if Americans patent the phrase “I am a terrible person and a corrupt soul” in the form of a trademark, register a trading company and successfully sell sports attributes of this company.

[Silkway0026]

alas, colleagues, recognizing him do not make our sport white, fluffy and undeservedly spat upon. He simply took the opportunity to take the dirty linen out of the hut and earn extra money on it. And we allowed it

[SCHMEL]

WADA informant Grigory Rodchenkov, under the influence of ...

Yes, he is expanding along the way, and straight to his head, he did not have long to “fight” with Russian sport

[Wolka]

the rat, trapped, let him devour himself, he is no longer needed by anyone and is no longer interesting, traitors always end the same way, let him die in a curse ...

[Herculesic]

That's when you curse our kindness - the liquidation team is weeping for such scum, and not crying! Mrazin, you need to “calm down” him in any way! Dozens of our athletes have suffered because of one such bastard, the image of the country has been damaged! And some “big bald guys” of our sport twist their asses in front of all sorts of wads, fawning! !!!!!

[PalBor]

Delusions of grandeur and a terrible insult that they did not want to recognize him so unique and ingenious.
And judging by the appearance, everything was baled from his manger (softened)

[hhhhhhh]

Those who stayed. Who appointed Rodchenkov, Who grilled kebabs with him in the country. They are still in Russia. They are waiting for their offer of apartments and cars. They are waiting for the fulfillment of their soviet dream to fall out of a rash.
The names of those who promoted him to such a height in sports were not heard anywhere.

[Awaz]

When ROSAD was created, there was a fuss about the uncleanliness of this character. However, no one paid attention to this. So all the problems are from the leadership of the sport and from the leadership of the country.

[hhhhhhh]

It’s like with the singer’s husband. Before the escape was a good man. Maybe the whole thought of these?

[The Siberian barber]

Burn in hell Judah !!!

[hhhhhhh]

What would you do in his place? How much money do you sell your homeland for?

[ODERVIT]

NESTIN from birth. More than once, I see, I got on the hill.
So the complex has developed. From the bastard to the traitor is not a long way. Well, what is worthy of Vlasov and his finale.

[tv70]

An ice ax, though not, with an aspen stake.

[Strashila]

From his words, only one conclusion can be drawn ... dirty tricks were prepared for a long time and thoroughly with the help of US intelligence. There was no doping as such ... but knowing the principle of analysis, you can always get the desired result ... which is done.

[Sofa General]

three times ha.
the French at the very beginning of 2000 literally said the following: “from the point of view of sporting achievements, mankind has exhausted its reserves in the 90s. The subsequent records are the result of interference in the human body.”

[andrej-shironov]

I will say seditious thought, and after all, doping in Russian sport was and is. It is also clear that he was and is in foreign sports. The fact that we are being pressured in the doping case is a consequence of the lack of our own pharmacological industry and scientific research. This, as well as many other industries, together with scientific research, has been destroyed by modern Russian authorities. It’s only one thing that’s strange to me: but she (the authorities) really hoped that they and the West would be forever molded friends? And then such a trick ...

[Sergey53]

Overwhelm him with lawsuits.

[Sofa General]

so muddy afraid of litigation, like the unclean power of holy water ...

[Sergey53]

So at the very stigma in the gun.

[Old26]

Quote: Going

The possibility of its liquidation, with the subsequent accusation of Russia, is not ruled out, can you imagine what will happen?

Why eliminate it with ours? What, do Americans have few scumbags in cities? Followers of various cults, such as voodoo? Or even a drug addict? Special services protect him from civilized opponents, such as special forces of other countries, or liquidators. But to protect it 60 minutes per hour, 24 hours a day, 365 days a year - no one can. He must go to the store, to the dentist in the end. Any junkie can decently cut it, or inject something such that it gives ends slowly and by no means peacefully. But you never know what you can think of. After the "Colombian tie" he is unlikely to harm ...

[Town Hall]

Quote: Old26

Quote: Going

The possibility of its liquidation, with the subsequent accusation of Russia, is not ruled out, can you imagine what will happen?

Why eliminate it with ours? What, do Americans have few scumbags in cities? Followers of various cults, such as voodoo? Or even a drug addict? Special services protect him from civilized opponents, such as special forces of other countries, or liquidators. But to protect it 60 minutes per hour, 24 hours a day, 365 days a year - no one can. He must go to the store, to the dentist in the end. Any junkie can decently cut it, or inject something such that it gives ends slowly and by no means peacefully. But you never know what you can think of. After the "Colombian tie" he is unlikely to harm ...

And what will it give? ... One of the reasons why he discovered the system - his two deputies in a Moscow laboratory suddenly died both with heart attacks in a few days when this scandal just started to unwind. Although they were quite young and healthy


Moreover, he is not the only informant. Besides him, testimonies were given by 2 more escaped RUSADA employees, including the chief IT officer of the laboratory. They provided all the files, including the number of destroyed samples, correspondence with officials of the Ministry of Sports, names, passwords ... All recorded and verified by cyber experts ....

[poplar in Kiev]

And where did he look dimly?
In one team were. The wines are even worse. And he sits in the government. And further. There was a dope, there was. Therefore, no one is protected. Only the cries of provincial and patriotic libel in the newspapers.
Have you seen how pure biathletes are running now?

[ul_vitalii]

He teaches English, GDP threw him a textbook

[501 Legion]

I think if it is banged, no one will be upset

[garnik]

The biathlete is not enough for him. And still it is necessary to strip him, at least with a deliberate discharge about the hunt for him, so that he hides from people until the end of his life. Or such a betrayal will continue.

[Going]

And there is his own "biathlete".

[geon]

here ... bastard! I wish that he would piss himself with blood and die somewhere in the American gateway, and not be buried and ... well, no words, just expressions ...

[Strashila]

Rodchenkov is what surfaced ... where there is no guarantee that there are no "sleeping" people who will not do another muck ... he was clearly not the only one working in this field, though ... he had kind of fallen asleep, everywhere he obviously would not have ripened.

[Soviet Union]

What time is it now .... tolerance .....
Betrayal is always betrayal
Restore, ensure and strengthen the liquidation department .... to find and destroy all the traitors over the past 30 years.

[Mountain shooter]

The earth is glassy to him, a traitor.

[jeraras]

And the Olympic sport of Russia will not destroy and the doping will not destroy, and the contractual matches will not destroy. Everything will remain in place. And not only in Russia, but in general everywhere. Contractual matches are played everywhere, if you look at the statistics of http://vipscore.in/, they earn on them. And they also eat dope everywhere. Such a sport is everywhere.

[7gor]

What a nit you have to be! This man will ingloriously finish

[Retvizan 8]

I don’t know if our special services will get to this traitor or whether they will ever bark the sword of our justice, but I’m sure that he will answer for God for the fate of our children who have dedicated their lives to sports, and he has all their hopes and dreams, and some and life has broken!
This conflict is purely political and does not have any idea of ​​a struggle for the purity of sports. Rodchinko took the side of our enemy, he’s a traitor and let him look into the bible, there he will find the answer that he will be expected further and that he won’t be happy with his 30 silver coins!

[7gor]

P.S. Mutko also in the furnace

[Going]

It does not sink.

[vitaly314]

But do not send a messenger with an ice ax?

[Berkut154]

Interestingly, he forgot what Litvinenko died? We still have a lot of polonium.

[ul_vitalii]

But do not we call him Trotsky and repeat everything using any kind of sports equipment or equipment?

[Sewer krainiy]

Quote: Logall

Vit, it needs to be stolen! Judge as a traitor! For others to dislike ...
He is a real traitor to the homeland! There is no other language ...

Pay the mafia ... will be removed.

[polpot]

Aha Mutko send with a baseball bat

[groks]

The last quote is interesting. It can be assumed that the effectivists got him. Very much got it.
It is clear that now the sport of the highest achievements without doping cannot exist. The meaning of this "sport" is completely vague for normal people. I remember the numbers of all hockey players of the Soviet national team, I am proud of Tikhonov that he would not graduate in the 90s. They showed us what the human body can do. And respect for them was unlimited. Now we see what chemistry can do, but they say that it’s almost genetics. And what can political pressure do. And what can money, money, money. Our oligarchs can chip in and buy at the World Cup all the leading players in the world? Probably they can. If the oligarchs of other countries do not give more. Well, for which team of oligarchs to root for?
So Rodchenkov is even useful. Maybe he will give an impetus to the destruction of this "sport". It would be nice to slam a completely professional sport, but it has already become such an instrument of political games and making a lot of money ....

[Berkut154]

Sorry, you do not confuse the concepts between change and betrayal. Radchenkov-traitor !!!! He betrayed his country, homeland, all of us. We cheered for the athletes! Yes, not everything is perfect in sports with us, no doubt. And defective managers in the form of a bleak are also not a gift, but what are the guys to blame for the victory at the stadium?

[osoboye_mneniye]

Quote: Berkut154

but what are the guys to blame for the victory at the stadium?

Where did you see the stadiums ??))) In St. Petersburg, they are demolished only on the road. Packs. Few stadiums - few athletes forge victories. Few athletes are forged - few victories. Everything is natural.
Look at things realistically.
Does someone make guys participate in this disgrace? They themselves, voluntarily, know what they fit into. Listen to you, so no one is to blame, but the main villain is the one who surrendered everyone.
And the fact that he was first handed over (read his biography) is nothing. Everything is good there, and you should not make innocent children out of athletes. All involved will receive theirs. And this is an undeniable benefit for the sport. If you have an attitude to sports as specifically to sports, not business.

[garnik]

One would think that there were violations in the Russian sport. Moreover, this Mr. Mr himself participated in the violation of the regulations.
And if someone passed it, then let him show it to the one who offended him.

[osoboye_mneniye]

Quote: garnik

One would think that there were violations in the Russian sport. Moreover, this Mr. Mr himself participated in the violation of the regulations.
And if someone passed it, then let him show it to the one who offended him.

Not only. But we must answer for ourselves, and not nod to others.
So he presented)) Did you really not understand this ??
Why change the little things? He just said that he would knock everyone out of sport.

[Dart2027]

Quote: osoboye_mneniye

But we must answer for ourselves, and not nod to others.

Well, enlighten us as narrow-minded as possible to perform in modern sport without doping and achieve something.

[osoboye_mneniye]

Quote: Dart2027

Quote: osoboye_mneniye

But we must answer for ourselves, and not nod to others.

Well, enlighten us as narrow-minded as possible to perform in modern sport without doping and achieve something.

To get started, start playing sports instead of hanging on the forums)))
Then plow in training, like a damn, go through all the selections and get into the Russian team. It is possible without doping, but it takes a very long time and a lot of work. And how you will succeed, so contact me for further instructions) But, judging by your question, you are not ready to work hard for a long time, and you won’t be able to get to the national team))
Speaking essentially, without doping it is possible to act and achieve. But for Russia, 1st place at the Olympics, of course, is unrealistic. Effective managers are trying to cover up a failure in sports in the manner of how they eliminate violations in the streets of our cities in Photoshop, and when they break up enterprises, they increase GDP, etc. A failure in pharmacology and a mess at government agencies led us to a failure in doping. The USSR had its own designs, but we have strangers. Here on this and burned. That the scandal with Sochi showed us sobsno ... But here everyone chooses for himself. These guys chose a dirty sport. Now they have to pay. If Russia can get their guys to pay for the dirty sport, then we will be even, and perhaps the sport will get better. In the meantime, since we are inferior in doping technology, we can’t catch anyone, so our guys will remain un revengeful, alas.

[Dart2027]

Quote: osoboye_mneniye

To get started, start playing sports instead of hanging on the forums

I do.

Quote: osoboye_mneniye

If to speak essentially, without doping it is possible to act and achieve

There is such a boring thing as biology, and from its point of view, the human body has limits that cannot be crossed, even if you get out of your skin in training.

Quote: osoboye_mneniye

What a scandal with Sochi showed us, sobsno

What is the scandal? When did our win? Yes, the scandal.

Quote: osoboye_mneniye

ok, since we are inferior in doping technologies, we cannot catch anyone

Yes, yes, so we concede that in order to blame us, traitors are required who

In early November, the Investigation Committee of Russia announced that it had collected enough evidence that the WADA informant had destroyed the doping tests of athletes. SK offered WADA cooperation in the Rodchenkov case. Meanwhile, the IOC Commission believes that Rodchenkov "spoke the truth," giving explanations about the proposed scheme for concealing doping violations at the Olympics in Sochi.

[osoboye_mneniye]

Quote: Dart2027

I do.

Why then are you asking such strange questions? Is there a discharge?

Quote: Dart2027

There is such a boring thing as biology, and from its point of view, the human body has limits that cannot be crossed, even if you get out of your skin in training.

Sport is not chess for you - you need to think here (in sport). Well, climb out of the skin too .. This does not mean that we must switch to doping. There are simply people who are stronger than you objectively. Either put up with it, or work better, smarter.

Quote: Dart2027

What is the scandal? When did our win? Yes, the scandal.

Tell us, and when did our win?
Winter olympiads for Russia have always come out so-so - from 1994 to 2010, places 1, 3, 5, 4, 11.
From 11th place to 1st ?? Moreover, with a clear tendency to decrease the result. And how do you understand that? Do you believe in miracles?

Quote: Dart2027

Yes, yes, so we concede that it takes traitors to blame us

The UK said that the former head of the Moscow Anti-Doping Laboratory, according to witnesses, sold doping to athletes, which he purchased in the States, and then destroyed their real doping tests. The RF IC confirms my words - we do not have our own technologies.
We were accused even before Rodchenkov. But since our sports leaders were smart enough to make porridge, and then make Rodchenkova extreme, then why blame the enemies if we ourselves brought them such a gift? It’s not sweeter for them when our traitors betray our traitors. This can be a good fuck ..

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: osoboye_mneniye

1994 to 2010 places 1, 3, 5, 4, 11.
From 11th place to 1st ?? Moreover, with a clear tendency to decrease the result. And how do you understand that? Do you believe in miracles?

Well, firstly, the trend is not linear, 3-5 is not surprising for you, but after a slope of 11
and secondly, quite a home Olympics athletes at the peak of emotions in such a situation is quite possible

[osoboye_mneniye]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Well, firstly, the trend is not linear, 3-5 is not surprising for you, but after a slope of 11
and secondly, quite a home Olympics athletes at the peak of emotions in such a situation is quite possible

Of course, a fall from 4-5 places to 11 does not surprise me. I repeat, in St. Petersburg stadiums are built up, rowing bases are built up, green zones are built up, sports schools are not provided with equipment, trainers are in slave position. Therefore, the trend is understandable.
But from 5-11 for only one Olympic cycle to 1 only due to an emotional upsurge, this is from the realm of fantasy. You yourself understand well what you are talking about? What is your sports qualification and what kind of sport? What year?

[Dart2027]

Quote: osoboye_mneniye

Why then are you asking such strange questions? Is there a discharge?

Rank and Olympics are not the same thing. Have you personally received any awards at the Olympics?

Quote: osoboye_mneniye

Sport is not chess for you - you need to think here (in sport

That is, the fact that the capabilities of the human body are limited is unknown to you?

Quote: osoboye_mneniye

And how do you understand that? Do you believe in miracles?

That is, again, nothing concrete.

Quote: osoboye_mneniye

The UK said that the former head of the Moscow Anti-Doping Laboratory

Something I have not seen. Reported where?

[osoboye_mneniye]

Quote: Dart2027

Rank and Olympics are not the same thing. Have you personally received any awards at the Olympics?

Yeah, so you yourself are not an athlete, but a balobol. It turns out that they refused to report on your achievements))) That is, until you are an Olympian, you cannot chemize, but if you are an Olympian, can you? How lovely..

Quote: Dart2027

That is, the fact that the capabilities of the human body are limited is unknown to you?

And the fact that if the athlete is stupid, then he can’t compensate for his shortcomings in the anaerobic zone with his advantage in the mixed zone, for example, he can only rely on chemistry, apparently unknown to you.
And then, why do you take chemistry for sport for granted? From this attitude, sports die. Is healthy sport more important for you, or state prestige in sports obtained by deception? You are not speaking as an athlete, but as an official.

Quote: Dart2027

That is, again, nothing concrete.

Nothing concrete is from me, but from you. I ask you, how is it possible in one Olympic cycle to stretch a country bogged down in two wars, sanctions and other pleasures, with a ruined production and sports base, from 11th place to 1st? You prefer to answer a question with a question. Bravo))

Quote: Dart2027

Something I have not seen. Reported where?

Google to help you. He who has eyes, let him see ..
http://www.newsru.com/russia/25aug2016/rodchenkov
.html
http://ekb.dk.ru/news/sud-arestoval-rossiyskoe-im
uschestvo-rodchenkova-informatora-wada-o-dopinge-
237042113

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: osoboye_mneniye

Here on this and burned. What a scandal from Sochi showed us

sorry and what a scandal? !!!
someone someone on the leg shit on his pants ?!
what a scandal why no one wrote about him? !!!!

[osoboye_mneniye]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

sorry and what a scandal? !!!
what a scandal why no one wrote about him? !!!!

Are you in yourself at all ?? The cancellation of the results of the performances of our athletes and lifelong disqualifications, the review of the results of the team standings, recognition of the informant, the removal of Russia from participation in future competitions, is this not a scandal, do you think?
Do you want something more?

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: osoboye_mneniye

Are you in yourself at all ?? Cancellation of the results of our athletes and lifelong disqualifications

it's you out of your mind
this is not a scandal in Sochi, everything was just wonderful there, this is a scandal in the offices and has no direct relationship to Sochi

Quote: osoboye_mneniye

Do you want something more?

and you know, in a sense, it wouldn’t be bad if the situation were aggravated and we would move, it’s like with the Crimea

[osoboye_mneniye]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

and you know, in a sense, it wouldn’t be bad if the situation were aggravated and we would move, it’s like with the Crimea

Can you develop a thought? I don’t quite understand you. How exactly to aggravate? It seems that there’s nowhere to aggravate ..
Comparison with Crimea is inappropriate. Russia had to protect the Russians and put all smart people in their place. It was an act of demonstration by Russia of its ability to take serious steps. But there was a lot at stake. Much more than the career of chemical athletes.

[begemot20091]

Quote: osoboye_mneniye

Quote: Dart2027

Quote: osoboye_mneniye

But we must answer for ourselves, and not nod to others.

Well, enlighten us as narrow-minded as possible to perform in modern sport without doping and achieve something.

To get started, start playing sports instead of hanging on the forums)))
Then plow in training, like a damn, go through all the selections and get into the Russian team. It is possible without doping, but it takes a very long time and a lot of work. And how you will succeed, so contact me for further instructions) But, judging by your question, you are not ready to work hard for a long time, and you won’t be able to get to the national team))
Speaking essentially, without doping it is possible to act and achieve. But for Russia, 1st place at the Olympics, of course, is unrealistic. Effective managers are trying to cover up a failure in sports in the manner of how they eliminate violations in the streets of our cities in Photoshop, and when they break up enterprises, they increase GDP, etc. A failure in pharmacology and a mess at government agencies led us to a failure in doping. The USSR had its own designs, but we have strangers. Here on this and burned. That the scandal with Sochi showed us sobsno ... But here everyone chooses for himself. These guys chose a dirty sport. Now they have to pay. If Russia can get their guys to pay for the dirty sport, then we will be even, and perhaps the sport will get better. In the meantime, since we are inferior in doping technology, we can’t catch anyone, so our guys will remain un revengeful, alas.

but for me: stand at the watch machine for 8-10 ... and even better at the operating table, when there are not enough surgeons, anesthesiologists ... and compare the salary of a surgeon and a jo-foot football player, who wouldn’t fall on my figs . I remember how in their youth brigades worked out for them, and the guys at the training camp hulkali vodka. try to refute! Let me remind you about the video of our football superheroes. you practice professionally, and earn money on sports, as abroad: advertising, ticket sales, ratings. and at my expense to receive a salary ten times more than mine? ..... and to me then why? children's sports, but not to brain loss. otherwise the whole country: athletes, lawyers and managers - and all of them are so successful. nowhere to put a stamp. and who will feed? senior citizens?

[osoboye_mneniye]

Quote: begemot20091

but for me: stand at the watch machine for 8-10 ... and even better at the operating table, when there are not enough surgeons, anesthesiologists ... and compare the salary of a surgeon and a jo-foot football player, who wouldn’t fall on my figs .

Times have changed. Once upon a time, people after work came to training, and not to the TV and the sofa with piff. Watch our film about engineer Garin and Borisov. It clearly shows the attitude of the population towards sports, and about the accessibility of sports, which is elite and expensive all over the world.
Well, the players are a separate song ... this is just a professional sport for the money. This is a different world for us. Zenith in St. Petersburg, it's almost like the Russian Orthodox Church))

[Overlock]

impossible on your terms. Even in the distant years of the Youth Sports School, we already used various methods to increase body weight. It was the Soviet Union. nobody forced us. but I really wanted to win. Today, the Olympics are competitions of pharmacologists who will apply what and at the same time go unnoticed (for various reasons)

[Skarpzd]

maybe that they used dope?

[osoboye_mneniye]

The second common thought in the whole topic. What is going on with people ??

[polpot]

The problem, as always in nepotism, Mutko his St. Petersburg, looks faithfully, does not differ in strength, they have attached, they admit that it’s hard for citizens to understand that he appointed an idiot to a post.

[Overlock]

hard to carry and quit sorry

[nord62]

Why is he still alive? Doesn’t bricks fall on America’s head in America?

[zivXP]

What is interesting to this fagot eggs pinched?

[Esoteric]

Rodchenkov, Zakharchenko ... What do you want from the thieves' scum. They are for pennies not only the Motherland, they will sell their mother to the authorities. Few in the country of these? If there is no fault of the athletes, you must sue the IOC and WADA. To institute criminal proceedings against Rodchenkov. Tell him through the yellow American press, "what they decided to do with him in the MUR and what objects to insert into the holes on the body" ... Let the rest of life live under the hood. To even be afraid to look out the window.
It is time to return to socialism with or without Putin and begin to cleanse power from mediocrity. Let everyone see and know that no one was able to bend Russia through any adversity and trials. With the United States, to terminate all relations, except diplomatic, until they learn to behave. And in Syria to wet their military at any opportunity.

[Ihrek]

When a Caucasian commits a crime - whether it be shooting in the air in Moscow, a fight or murder through negligence (for example, in particular Rasul Mirzaev, who was just defending his honor), all TV channels scream which Caucasians are bad and that they should all be driven out of Russia (although he Rasul Mirzaev, for example, is a Russian, since Dagestan is part of Russia for the uninitiated. All Caucasians, even some deputies (in particular Zhirinovsky), were condemned with foam at the mouth. Why doesn’t the nationality of this traitor be called, where is he from, where is he? double standards, otherwise we complain about the double standards of the USA and the EU towards Russia, let's start with ourselves, we will not divide Russians into Russians, not Russians, Dagestanis, Chechens when it comes to crime. Such a division is dangerous for the future of our country.

I apologize for being off topic.

[Glory1974]

Let's start with ourselves first, we won’t divide Russians into Russians, not Russians,

So we do it.
We condemn the villain. What does nationality have to do with it?

[ivagulin]

here you are writing relatives of the olympiad athletes and in our city the district center fired 350 honey workers in one day and silence ............................ ............

[Overlock]

what kind of pest do you have? Optimization or modernization of healthcare?

[ivagulin]

the previous chief physician and medical director stole as a result a hole in the budget formed - the way out is to fire people while keeping rates

[Lena Petrova]

A vision appeared: - An ice ax, and scattered 30 pieces of silver. I don’t understand - what is this for ?!

[Glory1974]

Why hasn’t a paper been found yet where he writes that he wants to “bury” the Olympic movement? It is necessary to make it public with those where he allegedly exposes athletes.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Rodchenkov called himself a "corrupt soul"

[Overlock]

so, what is next? "Killed poet, slave of honor?"
Higher Rodchenko’s banner?

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

the rest will think
smart and so understand that this is all crap and war in with Russia, but they will be afraid

[vladimirvn]

Uncle comes running!

[HMR333]

it’s time to already rule out all the exceptional ones and create their Olympic Games with the CSTO SCO countries and everyone who wants to join an honest sport and create a new doping nomination where all countries participate and don’t tell them what and how! and let the exceptional ones alimon themselves!

[Overlock]

how many countries do you think will come to these olympic games?
for all the power of the USSR, the Olympic Games in Moscow were boycotted by the Olympic committees over sixty countries. These included the United States, Japan, Germany, Canada, Turkey, South Korea, whose athletes have traditionally always been strong and have been the main competitor to Soviet athletes. Some athletes from France, Great Britain and Greece arrived at the Olympics 80 individually, while Qatar, Iran and Mozambique were not included in the Olympic Committee's application at all. At ceremonies in honor of the opening and completion of the Olympic Games, some countries did not go under the flags of their powers and under the flags of the International Olympic Committee. These included Australia, Andorra, Great Britain, Belgium, Denmark, the Netherlands, Italy, Portugal, Ireland, Luxembourg, France, Switzerland, San Marino, Ireland. When presenting the Olympic medals, the athletes of these countries sounded not national anthems, but the official Olympic anthem. Of all the countries of Western Europe, only the teams of Greece, Austria, Finland, Sweden and Malta appeared under their national flags. Despite the boycott from such a large number of states, Moscow received athletes from 81 countries of the world.
I guess. that in the current conditions, all our friends declared will simply ignore these games

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Overlock

I guess. that in the current conditions, all our friends declared will simply ignore these games

Let me curiosity, and our friends, who is it now?

[Overlock]

as the box is broadcasting, they are, for me, they are not.

[Viktor77]

Judah, and his fate will be the same.

[Dry_T-50]

Maybe send it to Litvinenko, mmm?

[Overlock]

now it is necessary to take care of it, because the second “Litvinenko” cannot be pulled due to Russia's image losses. In this case, there will be a lifelong disqualification of all the Olympic teams of the Russian Federation.

[aiden]

why so. Create alternative games with double or triple prize pools, such as goodwill games. and draw them parallel to pseudo-games. all stars re-launch to an alternative. America and Ukraine will remain

[PValery53]

How does the Ice Ax feel there?

[agel26r]

Quote: you Vlad

Quote: Going

Because it’s dead. he will bring even more benefit to his masters.

Just dead, no one needs him ... because they will forget about him the next day

I want to disagree with you. Just dead, he will do a lot of nasty things for Russia in the first place, remember the downed Malaysian Boeing. The training manual is one, but the acting characters are different. They have one goal, by all falsehoods, to cause irreparable harm to Russia, to make excuses, to prove their innocence, and only then the dancing on the bones will begin. Note that over the past decades, the Russian people have not been blamed for this and yet another proof of our student’s performance in the Bundestag, which already felt sorry for the “innocently killed” German soldiers.

[Overlock]

Quote: passing

And why was he promoted after the scandal began?

he was simply moved from sports minister to vice minister for that reason. to dilute the focus of his activities in his previous post. It was believed that his removal would lower the temperature of the doping scandal. However, the fire did not subside

[Zomanus]

Another official who turned out to be an enemy of the people.
It’s time to return this concept to judicial practice.
And somewhere a lonely ice ax is crying...

[Olegi1]

Rodchenkov is pursuing a conscious and purposeful policy according to the order, this is understandable. His orders are rolling. Why are we so passive if he is such a bug?

[Overlock]

Quote: garnik

You'd think only in Russian sports there were violations

doesn't matter. who violates what. important. that some people get caught and others don’t

[Overlock]

Quote: Reserve officer

So all hopes for restoring justice for our athletes can only be associated with the first person of the state. The rest of the leadership there is a corrupt swamp.

you suppose. that such a question is posed only in sports? How much do you believe in this decision?

[Sling cutter]

Going,
However, a position provides greater opportunities, but who gives the position?

[Rostislav]

Tatyana,
Many people have been talking for a long time about the need to apply to the OUD, but no one does it. Why? Why don’t athletes exercise their right to protect their honor and dignity?
There is no explanation for this phenomenon.
Is everyone so timid? Sports authorities prohibit? Or are they afraid that the decision will not be in their favor and then it will be completely lost? By this behavior they indirectly confirm the accusations brought against them.

[tolmachiev51]

We do not have lawyers for international law!!! Mostly PR people in the domestic market.

[Overlock]

there is no evidence to the contrary, going to court will cost you more

[aiden]

The main thing is that this scum will not be buried on Russian soil. and his tie is waiting for him in the toilet or polonium. As long as we have people like Mudko, such incidents will continue, the whole world eats this doping and nothing, but ours can’t. I hope Kim disrupts this Olympics. Are chess players tested for doping?

[Nemesis]

If Russia today stops spending money on all these Olympics and directs it to the improvement of the Russian Federation, then it will only benefit from this.

[Evil 55]

Previously, such idiots were treated with an alpenstock...

[tolmachiev51]

Somewhere Judas is right!!! Our functionaries, from sports, smoked and are silent in a “rag” - The Russians themselves will “pull it out” and straighten it out, our entire government lives by this principle - why bother.

[Dzafdet]

Rodchenkov let slip that Mutko owed him 2,5 million rubles. ...So I decided to earn them. He's not the first...

[Dzafdet]

Quote: Rostislav

Tatyana,
Many people have been talking for a long time about the need to apply to the OUD, but no one does it. Why? Why don’t athletes exercise their right to protect their honor and dignity?
There is no explanation for this phenomenon.
Is everyone so timid? Sports authorities prohibit? Or are they afraid that the decision will not be in their favor and then it will be completely lost? By this behavior they indirectly confirm the accusations brought against them.

Yes, we have contacted you more than once! That's right, the drawbar, where I turned, that's where it came out..

[Vintovkin]

Quote: Overlock

How much do you believe in this decision?

The management remains silent at all levels, except for dancing with tambourines for internal consumption (people grab)... i.e. flows around after defecation of loose stool ((

[Dzafdet]

Quote: Skarpzd

maybe that they used dope?

Who screamed the most about doping? Phelps! And now your mattress super champion is dying of skin cancer.. Attention question: what did he eat from mattress chemistry for his victories? Is this doping? Definitely! Why is everyone silent?
Soukalova is now also yelling about doping and regrets her two friends who didn’t live to see medals... But she shouldn’t have eaten chemicals and sprayed them in her mouth, like Soukalova! Are you asthmatic? So perform at the Paralympics!

[begemot20091]

let minors launch a flash mob about how Rodchenkov sexually harassed them together with McLaren. They will post photoshops, but then it’s a matter of technology. Now foreign countries have gone crazy with sex scandals. You give a worldwide sex scandal in the name of McLaren.

[saltickov.]

So he himself made scratches on test tubes for an apartment, a car, strangle the reptile for this, a corrupt Judas.

[bratchanin3]

Mutko is really a nobody and from nowhere, and the RADA system, together with a defector, was created by Mutko, and as a result they got what they got when one person ruins and discredits Russian Olympic sports. This is nonsense when the country is powerless against a provocateur. It is not clear where the government institutions are. Mutko, together with Medvedev, should be driven to the neck!

[Vintovkin]

Quote: Andrey NM

It’s interesting why liberoids for the most part have various defects: cross-eyed, burry,

Either way, “not liberoids” also often shine on the box - they’re all handsome men, athletes, and what’s more - real Atlanteans, Vovadima!

[prior]

Why the hell do we need special agencies if this bastard, Rodchenkov, is still alive?
And I love what “civilized” cannibals will say to this!

[parkello]

here is Judas, and...remember, Trotsky also hid for a long time...

[senima56]

One word - Judas.

[Dart2027]

osoboye_mneniye,

Quote: osoboye_mneniye

Yeah, that means you yourself are not an athlete, but a baller. It turns out this way because they refused to report on your achievements)))

Actually, I never said that I do it professionally, I lift for myself. So which Olympics did you compete at?

Quote: osoboye_mneniye

That is, unless you are an Olympian, you can’t use chemicals, but if you are an Olympian, then you can?

Actually, I explained to you that without chemistry there is nothing to do at the Olympics.

Quote: osoboye_mneniye

And the fact is that if an athlete is stupid, then he cannot compensate for his shortcomings in the anaerobic zone with his advantage in the mixed zone, for example

Well, explain how the mind can improve physical characteristics?

Quote: osoboye_mneniye

And then, why do you take chemistry for sport for granted? From this attitude, sports die. Is healthy sport more important for you, or state prestige in sports obtained by deception? You are not speaking as an athlete, but as an official.

Healthy sport is when I go to the gym, work for an hour and go home. And I don’t take any chemicals, simply because I don’t need it. Professional sports are a completely different matter, and a new record is important there.

Quote: osoboye_mneniye

I ask you, how is it possible, in one Olympic cycle, to pull a country mired in two wars, sanctions and other joys, with destroyed production and sports facilities, from 11th place to 1st?

Let's start with the fact that Russia is not howling in Ukraine, otherwise Ukraine would not exist long ago - is this news to you? Let us continue with the fact that a limited contingent in Syria is also not a full-fledged war, in terms of costs, but rather a test and exercise. And let’s end with the fact that everything you listed has nothing to do with sports.

Quote: osoboye_mneniye

http://www.newsru.com/russia/25aug2016/rodchenkov
.html

Looked:

Earlier, the official representative of the Russian Investigative Committee, Vladimir Markin, reported that the agency has information that the former director of the Federal State Unitary Enterprise "Moscow Anti-Doping Laboratory" Rodchenkov, for selfish reasons, sold prohibited medications purchased in the United States, while being the author and organizer of illegal schemes.
On August 23, Markin reported that, according to the Russian Investigative Committee, Rodchenkov could have destroyed doping samples on the orders of someone from the leadership of the World Anti-Doping Agency WADA. “Rodchenkov was administratively subordinate only to the World Anti-Doping Agency. Therefore, the investigation has reason to believe that he could have received the command to destroy doping samples from someone from the leadership of the World Anti-Doping Agency. And this version will be considered along with others,” the official explained representative

That is, it turns out that the traitor Rodchenkov organized provocations according to order of anyone from the leadership of the World Anti-Doping Agency WADA, but Russia is to blame? Original. If this is so, then our athletes are not only not guilty of anything, but should also receive monetary compensation from WADA and the United States, and American athletes are suspended from upcoming competitions

[Pasha]

and who will listen to Markin and SK.
the question is different, where were THESE bodies, where were they looking and whose interests were they protecting for their outrageous salaries and privileges.

[Dart2027]

Quote: Pasha

the question is different, where were THESE organs

As I already wrote this question

Quote: Dart2027

Rather to the FSB

[osoboye_mneniye]

Quote: Dart2027

Actually, I never said that I do it professionally, I lift for myself. So which Olympics did you compete at?

Are you rocking? This explains a lot about your attitude towards doping. Among other things, I had the good fortune to engage in powerlifting for some time. I somehow collected something without equipment at the CMS. Everyone who is a master did terrible chemicals. And the KMS recruits are the same. Everyone walked around with pimples... it's just a disgrace. I won’t say anything about those who swung - I wasn’t interested. But it seems there is something there too.
Actually, I never said that I competed at the Olympics. But I devoted 13 years to sports. MS, winner of the Russian Championship. It is not clear why you need to know this, since it will not change your attitude towards chemistry.

Quote: Dart2027

Actually, I explained to you that without chemistry there is nothing to do at the Olympics.

Now it’s my turn to be perplexed - how is it that you, who go in for sports at the rocking chair level for yourself (which in itself inspires respect), can judge what is possible and what is not allowed at the Olympics??
And further. If you are for yourself, then this is not a sport, but physical education. If you perform, then it’s a different matter. But being an athlete and talking about sports is somehow childish...

Quote: Dart2027

Let's start with the fact that Russia is not howling in Ukraine, otherwise Ukraine would not exist long ago - is this news to you? Let us continue with the fact that a limited contingent in Syria is also not a full-fledged war, in terms of costs, but rather a test and exercise. And let’s end with the fact that everything you listed has nothing to do with sports.

Wow, do you really think that Russia does not provide military support to Donbass? Is it like Donbass alone is holding hordes of fascists armed by the whole world?
And that means Crimea itself couldn’t, but Donbass could? Come on. The fact that Russia handles the situation in Donbass very competently, does not send in troops, etc., does not mean at all that Russia is not taking part in one way or another. The burden on Russia in connection with the situation in Donbass is very serious.
There are exercises in Syria, you say... And, probably, Assad was just pretending when ISIS squeezed him from all sides. And then he simply decided that he should give in to the ISIS and defeated everyone. And Russia was just conducting exercises there at the same time, yeah)) And Russian heroes didn’t die there, yes... what kind of death can there be during exercises, right? And about the attitude towards sports. Do you think that two wars, even such strange ones, and sanctions, etc., do not cause economic damage to Russia? They probably do anyway. And probably quite noticeable. And, probably, the budget suffers. I know for sure that I am suffering, judging by the area where I work. I'm interested in what you think.

Quote: Dart2027

That is, it turns out that the traitor Rodchenkov staged provocations on the orders of someone from the leadership of the World Anti-Doping Agency WADA, and Russia is to blame? Original. If this is so, then our athletes are not only not guilty of anything, but should also receive monetary compensation from WADA and the United States, and American athletes are suspended from upcoming competitions

Rodchenkov led a doping program, which both athletes and the Russian sports leadership were aware of. When they started digging vada and mok under Russia, the leadership dumped Rodchenkov in order to stay on the sidelines. Rodchenkov turned out to be too small and betrayed the interests of Russia in order to settle personal scores with the sports leadership. With the help of our enemies. I see it something like this.
Well, if Russia is its leadership and athletes, then Russia is probably to blame (the political leadership, which does not adequately fund sports and pharmacology, which is why athletes use drugs on which they can easily be caught, and beyond measure, the sports leadership that cultivates this , you, who have not yet smelled sports, have the opinion that chemistry in sports is the way it should be, etc.). This is all of us - Russia. Or what do you think?
Let’s return everything that was stolen after ’91 to our country, finance sports and pharma not on a residual basis, as now, but bring it to the Soviet level, and then we’ll see what the Rodchenkovs and Vadas can do for us. You want to replace failure in sports (and it exists, no matter how much you try to ignore it) with chemistry. It doesn't happen that way.
Just no offense. Think about the fact that instead of thinking everything over, you are trying to patriotically, as it seems to you, defend your position on issues where you have no knowledge.

[Dart2027]

Quote: osoboye_mneniye

Are you rocking? This explains a lot about your attitude towards doping.

I don’t get it.

Quote: osoboye_mneniye

MS, winner of the Russian Championship. It is not clear why you need to know this, since it will not change your attitude towards chemistry.

That is, you have reached the limit of the level where you can win through pure training. But I have no relationship with chemistry, because I simply don’t need it.

Quote: osoboye_mneniye

How can you, who plays sports at the rocking level for yourself (which in itself inspires respect), judge what is possible and what is not allowed at the Olympics??

The fact that professional sports is tied to chemistry has been Poshinel’s secret for...twenty years.

Quote: osoboye_mneniye

Wow, do you really think that Russia does not provide military support to Donbass?

Providing assistance and fighting are two different things. To fight is when the Russian Armed Forces enter the territory of Ukraine.

Quote: osoboye_mneniye

There are exercises in Syria, you say... And, probably, Assad was just pretending when ISIS squeezed him from all sides.

Actually I said that "not a full-fledged war, by cost, but rather a test and exercise"We are talking about the burden on the economy, and it is far from a full-fledged war, so Putin’s statement that funds to help Syria were redirected from those intended for the exercises sounds quite plausible.

Quote: osoboye_mneniye

Rodchenkov led a doping program, which both athletes and the Russian sports leadership were aware of.

In fact, preparing an athlete for the Olympics is a strictly planned process that combines all factors, right down to the time for sleep. And taking various kinds of stimulants is carried out not when it comes to mind, but in strict accordance with the training schedule. So a person who has nothing to do with training athletes should, in principle, not give them anything, and if he does, then the question is why?

Quote: osoboye_mneniye

You want to replace failure in sports (and it exists, no matter how much you try to ignore it) with chemistry. It doesn't happen that way.

What failure? If there had been a failure, then no one would have caused any scandal.

[osoboye_mneniye]

Quote: Dart2027

That is, you have reached the limit of the level where you can win through pure training.

No, I just got married and changed my priorities. You can get into the Russian national team without doping. And then yes, it’s difficult. But if you’re going to put a team on chemistry, then you need to put it in such a way that you don’t have to destroy the samples later. Our enemies know how to do this. But we don't. If we don’t know how, then we need to work without chemicals, lag behind the competition and recreate the previous groundwork in terms of the scale of sports in the country and in pharma. And that's all. You want to hit the jackpot.
In general, I see the actions of our sports leadership as purely gangster - to hit the jackpot by deception, then turn in accomplices, and then yell that there are no methods against Soprykin (tests bye-bye, which means there is no evidence of guilt).

Quote: Dart2027

Providing assistance and fighting are two different things. To fight is when the Russian Armed Forces enter the territory of Ukraine.

We are saying that military actions in Donbass are causing damage to Russia. And a considerable one. Details in this case do not matter.

Quote: Dart2027

Putin’s statement that funds for assistance to Syria were redirected from those intended for the exercises sounds quite plausible.

Putin's task is to shut the throats of the opposition. Were the downed pilot and the rest of ours killed in Syria also included in the cost estimate for the exercises? You stubbornly refuse to look at the question objectively. Your goal is not to get to the bottom of the truth, but to raise a patriotic wave in any way. Don't bother. Smart people still understand everything.

Quote: Dart2027

So a person who has nothing to do with training athletes should, in principle, not give them anything, and if he does, then the question is why?

Who are you talking about?))

Quote: Dart2027

What failure? If there had been a failure, then no one would have caused any scandal.

From 1st place to 11th in just 5 Olympiads, the population during the same period decreased by 2 times, the number of sports facilities decreased significantly, the number of educational institutions is declining at an accelerated pace (https://www.nakanune.ru/news/ 2015/11/12/22420186
) - this is a failure.
And I don’t care about your medal score at the Olympics, both as an athlete and as the majority of citizens.
People in the gym just don’t know this yet. When they stop playing sports for themselves and start playing for the country, then they will understand.
And be careful with propaganda. You look stupid.

[Dart2027]

Quote: osoboye_mneniye

But if you’re going to put a team on chemistry, then you need to put it in such a way that you don’t have to destroy the samples later

And who destroyed them? A traitor who sold out long ago?

Quote: osoboye_mneniye

We are saying that military actions in Donbass are causing damage to Russia

Is it true? And which one?

Quote: osoboye_mneniye

Were the downed pilot and the rest of ours killed in Syria also included in the cost estimate for the exercises?

I ask again - what does this have to do with the development of sports? You stubbornly refuse to look at the question objectively.

Quote: osoboye_mneniye

Who are you talking about?

Rodchenkova.

Quote: osoboye_mneniye

From 1st place to 11th in just 5 Olympiads, the population during the same period decreased by 2 times

Double the population? Can you show me the source?

Quote: osoboye_mneniye

And I don’t care about your medal score at the Olympics, both as an athlete and as the majority of citizens.

Is this why the very thought that our athletes did not violate anything infuriates you?

[osoboye_mneniye]

Quote: Dart2027

Quote: osoboye_mneniye
But if you’re going to put a team on chemistry, then you need to put it in such a way that you don’t have to destroy the samples later
And who destroyed them? A traitor who sold out long ago?

It doesn't matter who destroyed. It is important that the samples are destroyed. Because of the inability of the state to preserve them or because of the inability of the state to ensure safe doping and with its own sanctions - it makes no difference.

Quote: Dart2027

Quote: osoboye_mneniye
We are saying that military actions in Donbass are causing damage to Russia
Is it true? And which one?

Is it true. Big.

Quote: Dart2027

Quote: osoboye_mneniye
Were the downed pilot and the rest of ours killed in Syria also included in the cost estimate for the exercises?
I ask again - what does this have to do with the development of sports? You stubbornly refuse to look at the question objectively.

Direct. If there are killed, then this is not an exercise. If there are no exercises, it means war. If there is war, it means damage to the country. If there is damage to the country, that means budget cuts. Including sports.

Quote: Dart2027

Quote: Dart2027
So a person who has nothing to do with training athletes (Rodchenkov), in principle, should not give them anything, and if he does this, then the question is why?

Because the Russian sports leadership allowed him to do this.

Quote: Dart2027

Quote: osoboye_mneniye
From 1st place to 11th in just 5 Olympiads, the population during the same period decreased by 2 times
Double the population? Can you show me the source?

Official statistics will confirm to you that in 1991 there were 260 million people living in our country, and after 1991 - 130 million. Where can I look at the official statistics, tea workers are also not trained?

Quote: Dart2027

Quote: osoboye_mneniye
And I don’t care about your medal score at the Olympics, both as an athlete and as the majority of citizens.
Is this why the very thought that our athletes did not violate anything infuriates you?

This is not my thought, but yours. It is not possible to take your thoughts seriously after everything you express here. If you report that there is nothing to do at the Olympics without doping, that everyone takes it, and the villain Rodchenkov simply feeds it to our athletes, but at the same time they do not violate anything, then how can you respond to your thoughts seriously?))

[Dart2027]

Quote: osoboye_mneniye

It doesn't matter who destroyed. It is important that the samples are destroyed

Actually, the guilty are punished.

Quote: osoboye_mneniye

Is it true. Big.

And what does it consist of?

Quote: osoboye_mneniye

If there is war, it means damage to the country. If there is damage to the country, that means budget cuts

Is it true? So where is the source of the fact that the budget was cut?

Quote: osoboye_mneniye

Because the Russian sports leadership allowed him to do this.

Will there be evidence?

Quote: osoboye_mneniye

Official statistics will confirm this for you.

that in 1991 we had a different country

Quote: osoboye_mneniye

This is not my thought, but yours.

Is it true? The fact that athletes take doping during training and of the type that, let’s say, is accepted by everyone, and a certain Rodchenkov has nothing to do with this, is it too complicated? It is not possible to take your thoughts seriously after everything you express here.

[osoboye_mneniye]

Wow, so fat...)))
That's it, you win! Now everyone can clearly see what kind of sport you do)))
Your sport is tongue swinging, empty pushing and high-speed trolling))

[Dart2027]

Quote: osoboye_mneniye

Your sport is tongue swinging, empty pushing and high-speed trolling

That you are self-critical.

[tralmaster.]

I already felt that the end would come soon.

[Pasha]

what if it's all true

[oof]

People like this JUDAS must fall asleep and wake up in a wet bed, and not for long.

[weddu]

It is clear that high performance sports are impossible without doping and hormones in principle. It’s smart when one professor works with one top athlete, like in “civilized” countries. When Rodchenkov worked in the sports system, did he seem adequate, not a corrupt soul? How many more Rodchenkovs are there in the system and leadership of Russian sports, who recommends them, attracts them to work and supervises them? There is a systemic problem here, the sporting elite needs to be changed. Why do our athletes, having left to play for other national teams, begin to achieve success? Well, if we hypothetically assume that Mutko really asked to spoil the samples of the Ukrainian woman, then this is extremely disgusting, and something really needs to be changed.

[Chaos]

What if this bastard was recruited, he was leaking information to the United States. As a result, they developed a plan to discredit our sport. And here is the result. But by and large, Mudtko should leave, he irritates everyone, he is somehow frivolous, not authoritative, not respected.

[Kelwin]

In the meantime, it would be interesting to know the career history of this type. It’s even doubtful that he simply “grew up” to this position, who is “dad”, huh?) In any case, you have to wean yourself off tea...

[Andryukha G]

There should be one answer to the “doping bacchanalia” organized for Russia, or rather two: 1. There are no places for Americans in our spaceships (it is clear that the contract will not be extended until 2018) and 2. Finally, stop selling rocket engines to these downs who imagine ourselves as exceptional, we are not Indians, why would we be sold for beads, even green ones, and in the end there should be some kind of honor and understanding that they are simply wiping their feet about us, isn’t that understandable (?!) Yes, even if they offer at least a billion for the engine - refuse (until the doping scandals are over and cleared out of Syria and Ukraine)!!!

[Say]

Betrayal has always been very profitable...
...but the Olympic Games have long since outlived their usefulness and paying for this crap doesn’t respect oneself.
In addition, the Olympic Games served as an alternative to war.
And the last few games serve as a cover for the outbreak of hostilities.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

osoboye_mneniye,

Quote: osoboye_mneniye

Can you develop a thought? I don’t quite understand you. How exactly to aggravate? It seems that there’s nowhere to aggravate ..
Comparison with Crimea is inappropriate. Russia had to protect the Russians and put all smart people in their place. It was an act of demonstration by Russia of its ability to take serious steps. But there was a lot at stake. Much more than the career of chemical athletes.

I don’t remember sending troops into the Baltic states or Asia
the issue with Crimea was a strategic problem and the Russians are far from the most important thing here

[osoboye_mneniye]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

osoboye_mneniye,

Quote: osoboye_mneniye

Can you develop a thought? I don’t quite understand you. How exactly to aggravate? It seems that there’s nowhere to aggravate ..
Comparison with Crimea is inappropriate. Russia had to protect the Russians and put all smart people in their place. It was an act of demonstration by Russia of its ability to take serious steps. But there was a lot at stake. Much more than the career of chemical athletes.

I don’t remember sending troops into the Baltic states or Asia
the issue with Crimea was a strategic problem and the Russians are far from the most important thing here

Why do we need the Baltic states if we have Kaliningrad?
But besides Crimea, we have nothing to hide behind from the south. I see the question like this.

[Vlad5307]

This bastard is the product of that perversion of enrichment that EBN started. And it was not spontaneously that he fled to the FSA - this operation of buying an agent was carried out by the special service in advance and he went on the run, destroying many samples of athletes who would have refuted his speculations. But doping is permitted and prohibited, and we are talking only about what is prohibited. But this scoundrel was bought not in order to understand the essence of the matter, but in order to hide behind his lies and deprive us of our Olympic medals and impose a ban on participation in South Korea. Members of the IOC were bought by American broadcasting corporations and all these matters pursue several goals at once and it is clear what these goals are.

[Cobra77]

Solzhenitsyn’s cause is alive and well as I see...

[Lieutenant colonel]

Rare blue.ok. Selling skin.

[Playerman]

We need to scratch his head with an ice pick, like Trotsky. Look, other geeks are thinking about death

[Palch]

Of course Rodchenkov is a moron, but do you really believe that our Olympian heroes ate all this dope and took drugs and didn’t know about it????? What are you guys talking about!!!!!!?????......doping drugs are a whole science-based system of taking serious medications. Everything is calculated in days, minutes and milligrams. Everything is like in a hospital. This is not in Mikhalkov’s poems - well, just think of an injection, injected and went..... everything is more complicated there - THIS IS A SYSTEM for taking drugs. And the athlete, of course, knows what he is taking... Or are they all so degraded - they are fed, but the thought does not even flash through their minds - “what and why??????”. And of course, Rodchenkov did not show criminal initiative, but did everything with the knowledge......with the knowledge of whom? And I don't know who... we'll find out in a few years... or maybe we won't... And don't say that the whole world is on doping. He may be in jail, but as they say, if he’s not caught, he’s not a thief. Well, if you’re already in trouble......then....

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Palch

Well, if you've already gotten yourself into trouble......then...

got into trouble when there is evidence

[osoboye_mneniye]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Quote: Palch

Well, if you've already gotten yourself into trouble......then...

got into trouble when there is evidence

You know, in one film a thief shouted that Zheglov had no methods against Soprykin.
But methods were found... Now Russia is behaving like that soprykin.
The fact that we destroyed the samples does not remove the blame from us. If there is no negative doping test, then the athlete cannot be considered clean. This is the order, and Russia voluntarily submits to it.
The destruction of samples is either a provocation or an admission by Russia of its guilt.
But personally, I don’t believe that Russia was unable to secure the samples.

[Dart2027]

Tatyana,
Clear.

[Dart2027]

Quote: voyaka uh

No. Several more people testified. The entire computer The laboratory's database was copied and forwarded to the IOC. And these data confirmed Rodchenkov’s testimony.

Who is this? Those who accused him of trying to sell them illegal drugs?
https://matchtv.ru/doping/matchtvnews_NI797365_SK
_RF_Sobrano_dostatochno_dokazatelstv_togo_chto_Ro
dchenkov_unichtozhil_doping_proby_sportsmenov

[Gavril]

Alternatively, you can drown it in urine

[7gor]

OK it's all over Now! Mudko buried the Olympics!