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Europe will refuse Ukrainian rocket engines

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The European Space Agency (ESA) has allocated 89,7 million euros to upgrade the Vega lightweight missiles and to develop the Space Rider reusable spacecraft. It is reported by Space News.


The modernization of Vega, for which Avio companies allocated 53 million euros, suggests a further rejection of the used Ukrainian engine RD-843, working on heptyl and nitrogen tetroxide. The missiles will differ from the current version of the "Europeanized" upper stage, which will install a German engine operating on liquid oxygen and methane.

Europe will refuse Ukrainian rocket engines


The new Vega C can lift 2300 kg to a low orbit of the Earth, about 800 kilograms more than now, the newspaper notes. The development of Vega rockets and the Space Rider spacecraft will be carried out by representatives of the space industry in Italy.

ESA believes that the top module Vega should be built according to European standards, the observance of which Ukraine will not be able to provide in the next three to four years.

Thales Alenia Space has received 36,7 million euros for the creation of a reusable unmanned Space Rider spacecraft. With its help, it is possible to output up to 800 kilograms of load to low Earth orbit. The first launch of the ship is planned in 2020 year.

The fourth stage propulsion engine RD-843 for Vega was developed by the Yuzhnoye design bureau and manufactured by Yuzhmash. The last, eleventh launch of a rocket with a Ukrainian engine took place on November 9. In just five years of operation, Vega carriers launched 26 satellites for 20 customers worldwide.
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  1. Jedi
    Jedi 2 December 2017 09: 13 New
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    Modernization of the Vega, for which Avio companies have allocated 53 million euros, involves a further waiver of the RD-843 engine used Ukrainian

    Now, shouts will come from the independent that Avio is a branch of the Kremlin and is owned personally by Putin. lol
    1. 210ox
      210ox 2 December 2017 09: 23 New
      +8
      Maksim hi Quite the contrary .. "We are a space power, and you MUST buy from us .."
      Quote: Jedi
      Modernization of the Vega, for which Avio companies have allocated 53 million euros, involves a further waiver of the RD-843 engine used Ukrainian

      Now, shouts will come from the independent that Avio is a branch of the Kremlin and is owned personally by Putin. lol
      1. Jedi
        Jedi 2 December 2017 09: 27 New
        +8
        Dmitry, welcome! hi
        Quote: 210ox
        Quite the contrary .. "We are a space power, and you MUST buy from us .."

        I would like to hear where Europe sends them. lol
        1. 210ox
          210ox 2 December 2017 09: 29 New
          +8
          But here it is unknown .... Maybe a shout from overseas to follow .. The Russophobic regime should be fueled!
          Quote: Jedi
          Dmitry, welcome! hi
          Quote: 210ox
          Quite the contrary .. "We are a space power, and you MUST buy from us .."

          I would like to hear where Europe sends them. lol
          1. Jedi
            Jedi 2 December 2017 09: 32 New
            12
            Quote: 210ox
            Maybe a shout from overseas to follow.

            Can. Or maybe not follow. Or Europe with the device will put on the cry. In general, there are options for the development of events, we will see.
            1. Logall
              Logall 2 December 2017 09: 47 New
              10
              It would be better not to look, but to evaporate your engines under the guise! That would be good
              Dmitry, Max hi
              1. Jedi
                Jedi 2 December 2017 09: 51 New
                +6
                Sanya, hello! hi They have German, and therefore they drive out of the race.
                1. Logall
                  Logall 2 December 2017 10: 28 New
                  11
                  On this engine - in my head the lines from the song were remembered:
                  '' ... sappers delve into the ground, bury a 100 ton mine! But it still will not explode - the spy unscrewed the lock nut! ... ''
                  1. Jedi
                    Jedi 2 December 2017 10: 43 New
                    +7
                    Quote: Logall
                    '' ... sappers delve into the ground, bury a 100 ton mine! But it still will not explode - the spy unscrewed the lock nut! ... ''

                    "And the bullets fly, the bullets ... Crazy fly and not really ..." good
            2. Pirogov
              Pirogov 2 December 2017 10: 21 New
              +3
              Quote: Jedi
              Can. Or maybe not follow. Or Europe with the device will put on the cry. In general, there are options for the development of events, we will see.

              Europe can only suck the appliance.
              1. Jedi
                Jedi 2 December 2017 10: 27 New
                +6
                This is already a question of their personal intimate life with the United States. repeat
                1. Pirogov
                  Pirogov 2 December 2017 10: 45 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Jedi
                  This is already a question of their personal intimate life with the United States.

                  This is the answer to your comment that Europe is something that can, and I tell you that Europe can only suck at the United States. And hoping for independent decisions in Europe is stupid.
        2. The black
          The black 2 December 2017 09: 36 New
          +6
          Quote: Jedi
          I would like to hear where Europe sends them.

          But who knows? ... maybe B .. or maybe ON .. laughing... but sends exactly!
          1. Jedi
            Jedi 2 December 2017 09: 41 New
            +7
            hi For some reason, I think so: Europe is full of Ukraine and it makes you sick ... lol
            1. pvv113
              pvv113 2 December 2017 09: 53 New
              +3
              That's just in Ukraine they do not want to understand this.
              Hi, Max!
              1. Jedi
                Jedi 2 December 2017 09: 56 New
                +5
                Volodya, salute! hi And they don’t understand: there’s nothing to understand, everything that was in my head jumped.
                1. pvv113
                  pvv113 2 December 2017 10: 01 New
                  +3
                  It is sad, but lately the general level of IQ of the population is a function that decreases exponentially
                  1. Jedi
                    Jedi 2 December 2017 10: 05 New
                    +5
                    There is nothing to be done - such are the harsh realities ...
                    1. pvv113
                      pvv113 2 December 2017 10: 07 New
                      +5
                      We conclude: to become Europe you need to lose your mind wassat
                      1. Going
                        Going 2 December 2017 12: 32 New
                        +9
                        Quote: pvv113
                        We conclude: to become Europe you need to lose your mind wassat


                        Unfortunately, they have been demonstrating this to us recently.
      2. Felix99
        Felix99 3 December 2017 00: 42 New
        0
        The problem is in the Metric system, they have a different one.
      3. Aleksey1982
        Aleksey1982 5 December 2017 12: 09 New
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        no, they have already found a new market, a Korean friend will buy everything
    2. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 2 December 2017 09: 24 New
      +4
      Europe will refuse Ukrainian rocket engines

      In North Korea, Eun pretty rubs his hands! laughing
      Max, hello! hi
      1. Jedi
        Jedi 2 December 2017 09: 28 New
        +5
        Sasha hi
        Quote: SRC P-15
        In North Korea, Eun pretty rubs his hands!

        And ukroskakuny think how not to "burn" ... lol
    3. siberalt
      siberalt 2 December 2017 11: 04 New
      +3
      Three years later, Ukraine may forget about its belonging to space. Qualification will be lost. One hope for the Hammer mortars. belay
  2. solzh
    solzh 2 December 2017 09: 13 New
    +5
    How will they not buy rocket engines from Ukraine? But what about the slogan: Ukraine is a great cosmic (comic) power?
    1. Ami du peuple
      Ami du peuple 2 December 2017 09: 32 New
      +4
      Quote: solzh
      But what about the slogan for Ukraine - a great space (comic) Power?
      Not everything is lost, trampolines will be sold to Americans lol
    2. Chertt
      Chertt 2 December 2017 09: 40 New
      +2
      Ay, vey ... In Ukraine, one child of an official cried, who is not enough for cocaine
    3. Normal ok
      Normal ok 2 December 2017 22: 23 New
      0
      Quote: solzh
      How will they not buy rocket engines from Ukraine? But what about the slogan: Ukraine is a great cosmic (comic) power?

      It is reported by Space News.
      - I googled this news for fun. And I haven’t found it anywhere. Neither on the Space News website, nor on other resources. So, during the next fake.
  3. Primoos
    Primoos 2 December 2017 09: 14 New
    +6
    The agrarian superpower should dig silos, not build rocket engines. Lyashko with dunks - Svidomo national symbol!
  4. Machete
    Machete 2 December 2017 09: 29 New
    +2
    The dream to dig the sea on the Moon and Mars has disappeared ... Sadness ...
  5. Sergey53
    Sergey53 2 December 2017 09: 30 New
    0
    All that is needed from them they have already received. Now they can do it themselves.
  6. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 2 December 2017 09: 42 New
    +2
    VNA is not allowed to “rise” by high technologies ... But they still don’t understand ... Competition in the world is fierce. A piece of cake - not so big, not enough for everyone. And no one is in a hurry to share it. And they expected "independence supporters" when closed for a huge Russian market?
    1. Jedi
      Jedi 2 December 2017 09: 54 New
      +6
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      And what did the “independents” rely on when they closed the huge Russian market for themselves?

      How on what? USA come - restore order! wassat
      1. Going
        Going 2 December 2017 12: 33 New
        +9
        And who asked them, they said to break all ties with Russia, here they are dancing on a rake.
  7. Old26
    Old26 2 December 2017 09: 55 New
    +3
    Quote: Jedi
    I would like to hear where Europe sends them.

    Yes, he will not send it anywhere. Carriers like "Vega-S" will begin to fly in 2018. Is the German oxygen and LNG engine ready? Or just plans. But on the carrier "Vega-E" the upper, 4th stage of production "Yuzhmash" is no longer provided. The third stage is planned for joint Russian-Italian specifically for LNG and oxygen. But how everything will turn out is unknown. The engine demonstrator was tested with us back in 2014, but its fate is unknown. So the Europeans want it or not, but even they will spend 10 starts with the Ukrainian engine
  8. UAZ 452
    UAZ 452 2 December 2017 10: 08 New
    +3
    The space and rocket industries of Russia and Ukraine are following parallel courses, I will not say where, so as not to be upset again. At the same time, commentators on both sides of the border behave in exactly the same way - they sincerely rejoice at another failure of each other, also sincerely forgetting about their similar problems. Well, how can one doubt the brotherhood of our peoples! About the representatives of both, we can say that they are more happy that the cow died from the neighbor than the offspring of its cattle.
    1. Kondratko
      Kondratko 2 December 2017 10: 44 New
      0
      "which is more rejoicing that a cow died from a neighbor than offspring from its cattle."
      If there isn’t that “offspring”, then it remains to rejoice only because the cow is dead, after the death of its cow it’s not accepted to rejoice, but still you want to live and enjoy, because of this only ...
      smile
      Ukraine isn’t to be fools, to take it and poke it - push ONU engines, all the more so since the fact of the presence of nuclear weapons in North Korea has already come true, and the engines were already burning up on the last "sale" (there’s nothing to lose), and the RD will approach the ICBM or no, it doesn’t matter, maybe then the C-Koreans are going to fly to Mars. )))
      1. IL-18
        IL-18 2 December 2017 22: 19 New
        +2
        A North Korean warhead weighing 250 kg would be abandoned! And then there's a booster for some reason!
  9. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 2 December 2017 10: 22 New
    +2
    Well, what will you do. Once again, the zrada and once again from where they did not wait. Europe does not want to deal with the "great space power" on which all the global production of space technology was held.
  10. Illegal
    Illegal 2 December 2017 10: 30 New
    +4
    Ukrainian engine RD-843,

    This is a Soviet engine! There is nothing Ukrainian, except fat, and it cannot be!
  11. farik68
    farik68 2 December 2017 10: 52 New
    +2
    In my opinion, Europe and Ukraine itself has already refused .....
  12. Simon
    Simon 2 December 2017 10: 54 New
    +1
    Well, here again, the Ukrainians broke off! Europe threw them again, now they’ll definitely suck something wassat
  13. Simon
    Simon 2 December 2017 11: 01 New
    0
    Quote: Old26
    Quote: Jedi
    I would like to hear where Europe sends them.

    Yes, he will not send it anywhere. Carriers like "Vega-S" will begin to fly in 2018. Is the German oxygen and LNG engine ready? Or just plans. But on the carrier "Vega-E" the upper, 4th stage of production "Yuzhmash" is no longer provided. The third stage is planned for joint Russian-Italian specifically for LNG and oxygen. But how everything will turn out is unknown. The engine demonstrator was tested with us back in 2014, but its fate is unknown. So the Europeans want it or not, but even they will spend 10 starts with the Ukrainian engine

    Well, if they carry out 10 launches, and then it’s all the same their engines will be taken by no one. So that they sailed, Ukrainian friends tongue
  14. Herculesic
    Herculesic 2 December 2017 11: 11 New
    +1
    And then on the face of a wrestling reception in the address of ukroiny - a throw through h, l, e, n! !! Not only will they not give the tranche, but they also take by the throat to block oxygen! !! wassat
  15. pvv113
    pvv113 2 December 2017 12: 34 New
    +1
    Going,
    I don’t understand one thing - why is it so advertised? lol
  16. ufpb
    ufpb 2 December 2017 13: 39 New
    +2
    "European standards" - a way to squeeze out a competitor. No more. The whole problem is that engines do not in Germany-France-Etc.
  17. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 2 December 2017 14: 36 New
    0
    Without a “scoop” it’s just 404, no more.
  18. Old26
    Old26 2 December 2017 17: 26 New
    +1
    Quote: Simon
    Well, if they carry out 10 launches, and then it’s all the same their engines will be taken by no one. So that they sailed, Ukrainian friends

    We will talk about this after 2021
  19. gloomy fox
    gloomy fox 2 December 2017 17: 37 New
    0
    after such news, Petro will again go into a binge. the squirrel will come to him again.
  20. Normal ok
    Normal ok 2 December 2017 22: 03 New
    0
    The fourth stage propulsion engine RD-843 for Vega was developed by the Yuzhnoye design bureau and manufactured by Yuzhmash. The last, eleventh launch of a rocket with a Ukrainian engine took place on November 9. In just five years of operation, Vega carriers launched 26 satellites for 20 customers worldwide.

    In other words, all the previous statements on VO that Yuzhmash and Yuzhnoye’s design bureau died long ago are "greatly exaggerated"))) Moreover, from the 20 launches - not a single unsuccessful one.
    The European Space Agency (ESA) has allocated 89,7 million euros for the modernization of Vega light rockets and development of space shuttle Rider.

    While they are developing, much more can happen.
  21. LeonidL
    LeonidL 3 December 2017 03: 32 New
    0
    Europe sees everything, Europe understands everything ... Zrada in a word.