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GSU: We in the gray zone did not occupy anything - there and so everything is controlled by us

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The representative of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Vladislav Voloshin on the air of one of the Ukrainian TV channels commented on the situation on the so-called line of contact between the parties in the Donbas. The journalists asked the Ukrainian officer a question about the situation with the occupied settlements in the so-called “gray zone”. Answering this question, Voloshin said that the settlements in the "gray zone", it turns out, "and so were under the control of the Ukrainian army." Recall that we are talking about localities Mayskoye and Gladosovo.


From the statement of the representative of the Ukrainian General Staff:
These settlements were under our control, there, say, armed men did not go every day, and there were not many trenches accumulated. We simply entered, redeployed units there and began to build fortifications there.


Then Voloshin announced that there was no neutral zone - the “gray zone”. According to him - "everything is visible from the trenches."

GSU: We in the gray zone did not occupy anything - there and so everything is controlled by us


Thus, the Ukrainian side once again makes it clear that for it the very concept of “compliance with agreements” does not exist. Any agreements are defamed in a way that is convenient for Kiev.

Moreover, the official representative of the General Staff is actually contrary to the press service of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine. Earlier, the ministry announced a military operation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the “gray zone”, adding that “if it were not for the volunteer's messages on the social network, the operation would have been more ambitious.”
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  1. 1331M
    1331M 2 December 2017 07: 57 New
    +3
    Volunteer to shoot it, Voloshin to shoot, Poroshenko-
    to shoot. I didn’t forget anyone ..? And this "gray zone" will be bought back later, don’t worry .. wink
    1. 210ox
      210ox 2 December 2017 08: 06 New
      +5
      Who? Everyone has already been shot!
      Quote: 1331M
      Volunteer to shoot it, Voloshin to shoot, Poroshenko-
      to shoot. I didn’t forget anyone ..? And this "gray zone" will be bought back later, don’t worry .. wink
      1. Ami du peuple
        Ami du peuple 2 December 2017 08: 12 New
        +7
        And also VSUki Rostov took Moscow too ... What, didn’t they? So "I’m not giving a damn", otherwise!
        1. Going
          Going 2 December 2017 13: 14 New
          +8
          Well, of course they can, thanks for pitying us. lol
          1. Lelek
            Lelek 2 December 2017 18: 12 New
            0
            Quote: Going
            Well, of course they can, thanks for pitying us.


            Hey. And they could, and rushed, and grounded.
            1. the lord
              the lord 2 December 2017 22: 15 New
              +1
              Well, otherwise everything on Zakharchenko rolled a barrel, they say, yap and junk. However,
  2. Herculesic
    Herculesic 2 December 2017 08: 00 New
    +5
    How tired of hearing about the attempt to hide their incompetence by some Minsk conservatives !!! The republics are not aware that every meter of their land given to the enemy is a blow to the already not very great confidence in the authorities of the republics! It was impossible to turn in villages! For them, it was necessary to conduct such battles so that the Ukrainian military would fear these battles with fear, and not burst into the lands of the republics! !!!!!!!
    1. g1v2
      g1v2 2 December 2017 08: 36 New
      +5
      APU has already left these villages. For one simple reason. They are perfectly visible and shot from the positions of nm. Therefore, they were not occupied by the BCH, and not because of a commitment to any agreements there. It’s awkward to defend them stupidly. All cannon fodder has enough. The NM of the republics cannot afford to bear losses comparable to all. request They went in altogether, reported on a break, sat under fire and went out. Maybe later BCH will enter there, they will also report on the change, and also will return back to their positions. But the actual front line will remain the same.
      1. Mar.Tirah
        Mar.Tirah 2 December 2017 08: 51 New
        +3
        There is such information !! . The press officer of the ATO headquarters Vasily Labay reported about it.

        “The situation in the Gorlovka area suddenly escalated. The fighters of the Aidar battalion of the 54th brigade, under the pressure of terrorist fire, were forced to leave their positions in Travnev and Gladosovo for replenishment due to losses.

        It is currently impossible to keep busy villages. Since November 23, units have lost 12 soldiers killed and 5 wounded. Basically, the defenders died from sniper fire, which was conducted including from the rear. The location of the occupied positions in the lowland does not allow us to control the villages. And from tonight the enemy began to mine roads. As a result, one of them blew up our truck delivering water. The explosion killed another 3 servicemen, ”Labay said. AMEN OF COURSE !!!!! But this information needs to be checked. We will wait for the official one. Https: //goves.ru/posts/210-boeviki-vs
        u-
        sbez
        hali-iz-zahvachennyh-gladosovo-i-metallista-v-ser
        oi-zone-pod-gorlovkoi.html
        1. Piramidon
          Piramidon 2 December 2017 10: 29 New
          +1
          There is an opposite infa:
          Did the APU leave the occupied villages near Gorlovka?

          02.12.2017 - 10: 23
          Did the APU leave the occupied villages near Gorlovka? | Russian spring
          Last night, many media outlets, including the Ukrainian ones, announced the retreat of the Ukrainian Armed Forces from the villages Gladosovo and Travnevoe occupied last week, allegedly due to serious losses in their ranks.

          Journalists referred to information released by the press officer of the ATO headquarters, Vasily Labay.

          As “Russian Spring” has learned today from sources in the DPR Army, this information is not true. People directly at the scene report that the enemy did not go anywhere from the settlements.

          In turn, Vasily Labay on his page on the social network claims that yesterday "a clone account of his FB page was created from which information that was not true was distributed."

          http://rusvesna.su/news/1512199400
      2. 210ox
        210ox 2 December 2017 08: 55 New
        0
        Did they come out? And at the same time they distorted the local population. Someone was taken away. And all these people will not come back. how to get out.
        Quote: g1v2
        APU has already left these villages. For one simple reason. They are perfectly visible and shot from the positions of nm. Therefore, they were not occupied by the BCH, and not because of a commitment to any agreements there. It’s awkward to defend them stupidly. All cannon fodder has enough. The NM of the republics cannot afford to bear losses comparable to all. request They went in altogether, reported on a break, sat under fire and went out. Maybe later BCH will enter there, they will also report on the change, and also will return back to their positions. But the actual front line will remain the same.
      3. RF man
        RF man 2 December 2017 11: 45 New
        0
        Quote: g1v2
        Front line

        The "dashed front line" is more suitable -) Well, or the official "line of opposition" -)
  3. HEATHER
    HEATHER 2 December 2017 08: 05 New
    +4
    NOVEMBER 21, 2017: I haven’t found it anymore.
    1. Jedi
      Jedi 2 December 2017 08: 21 New
      +3
      hi
      These settlements were under our control.

      And what was the control? Less than two do not go around and look around, otherwise local shafts can hit the teapot?
    2. akims
      akims 2 December 2017 11: 51 New
      0
      This is last year
    3. vasya.pupkin
      vasya.pupkin 2 December 2017 12: 49 New
      +2
      The video is interesting, but about the other side of the villages "Mayskoye" and "Gladosovo". If you go to this position from Donetsk: Abakumov St., Staromikhailovka, and then Krasnogorovka. Well done guys!
  4. solzh
    solzh 2 December 2017 08: 06 New
    +2
    We just went in, relocated units there and began to build fortifications there.

    Ukraine never intended to implement the Minsk agreements. By such actions, the entire junta can seize the junta. It is a pity that there is no response from the people's republics and is not expected.
    1. Lelek
      Lelek 2 December 2017 18: 34 New
      +1
      Quote: solzh
      Ukraine never intended to implement the Minsk agreements.


      Hey. This is so every day aggravates its refusal to fulfill the terms of the agreements with new decrees and laws.
  5. Sergey53
    Sergey53 2 December 2017 08: 09 New
    +2
    You are already unable to control anything in yourself.
  6. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 2 December 2017 08: 15 New
    +5
    Nowhere do they lie so much as on the hunt and in the war ... APU is not quite the same rabble that it was in the 14th. But the militias, too ... The battles near Debaltseve showed - if the battles go seriously - there will be a lot of blood on both sides.
    There will be no easy victory for the militia, and the APU will never be.
    1. 1331M
      1331M 2 December 2017 08: 38 New
      +3
      This year, as it became clear to both sides, there’s no fighting. Everyone understands that nobody will take anyone by force, the stalemate is in the trenches, everyone is waiting when they even agree to go up there .... hi
    2. Lelek
      Lelek 2 December 2017 18: 17 New
      +1
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      There will be no easy victory for the militia


      Hey. And the smell of gunpowder is thicker and more distinct.
  7. BLADFROST
    BLADFROST 2 December 2017 09: 13 New
    0
    And the 200th there from the earth open or what?
  8. pvv113
    pvv113 2 December 2017 10: 05 New
    +1
    Voloshin said that the settlements in the "gray zone", it turns out, "and so were under the control of the Ukrainian army"

    Dog is lying! Yesterday there was information that the sniper squeezed out the invaders from the occupied villages
    01.12.2017 - 18: 54
    URGENT: APU suffered serious losses and retreated from the occupied settlements to the DPR | Russian spring
    The militants of the Aidar battalion of the 54th Armed Forces brigade, due to serious losses, were forced to leave their previously occupied positions in the occupied settlements of Travnevoe and Gladosovo near Gorlovka.
    The press officer of the ATO headquarters Vasily Labay reported about it.
    “The situation in the Gorlovka area suddenly escalated. The fighters of the Aidar battalion of the 54th brigade, under the pressure of terrorist fire, were forced to leave their positions in Travnevoy and Gladosovo to replenish as a result of losses, ”the message said.

    Source: http://rusvesna.su/news/1512143689
    1. Equalized
      Equalized 2 December 2017 12: 57 New
      0
      This is a fake of spring. There is no such message from the Ukrainian side and never has been. Rusvesna is a lower-level resource that cannot be trusted.
      1. pvv113
        pvv113 2 December 2017 13: 02 New
        +1
        And what resource do you believe? Maybe 112.UA?
        1. Equalized
          Equalized 2 December 2017 13: 04 New
          0
          I believe in common sense. Yesterday this fake was brought to lostarmour and it was immediately exposed. Have you personally tried to look for a "message" from the press officer of the ATO headquarters, Vasily Labay?

          Make sure that a similar message exists? not? Well then, what claims to me? Is such a fake an indicator that Rusvesna is a site of the lowest level of propaganda?
          1. pvv113
            pvv113 2 December 2017 13: 19 New
            +1
            I haven’t met press messages, but there is a message in his account
            1. Equalized
              Equalized 2 December 2017 13: 23 New
              0
              But the press center of the ATO headquarters says that this account is fake and does not personally belong to Labay, they say, do not believe this message.



              In short Rusvesna in his repertoire. I know what I am saying. This resource is icteric and very often falls on such.
              1. pvv113
                pvv113 2 December 2017 13: 25 New
                +3
                Let's not argue, but wait for the verified information, because I don’t believe the Ukrainian media either hi
                1. Equalized
                  Equalized 2 December 2017 13: 28 New
                  0
                  Good. Wait, most likely there will be a video from these villages from Ukraine. Well, or from the DNI, if miraculously the Russian girl didn’t lie and Labay’s fake account turned out to be real and contradicts the position of the ATO press center :))
                  1. Antares
                    Antares 2 December 2017 21: 58 New
                    0
                    Quote: Equalized
                    video from these villages from Ukraine

                    there are several such videos (although they are woven from one or two reports
                    You can provide the video and the opposite side. Where Gladosovo is precisely controlled by the APU

                    In this video, they even explained that "they took unfavorable positions"

                    And finally, one of the videos of the Ukrainian side. Translation is not required (since the official part in Ukrainian is real in Russian)

                    However, such videos are better than any propaganda (some explain that villages were “disadvantageous” to them, while others show that they are important. Both sides of the conflict will draw conclusions, but the superiority here is clearly for the Ukrainians, there are no banal “disadvantageous villages”
              2. Lelek
                Lelek 2 December 2017 18: 24 New
                0
                Quote: Equalized
                In short Rusvesna in his repertoire. I know what I am saying.


                Genatsvale, yes you believe even in hell, even in his little ones. Who cares? Here you have a crest - believe in it, you are on the other side.
  9. Sharikov Polygraph Poligrafovich
    Sharikov Polygraph Poligrafovich 2 December 2017 10: 07 New
    +2
    Boyovy gopak on a rake - a favorite dance of ukro-Wehrmacht :-)))
    Gladosovo for the "warriors of the world" has long been a cursed place.
    If you delve into the network in the news, then you can easily and freely find that 3,5 months ago (August 15, 2017) a soldier of the xoxlo-Wehrmacht already visited that Gladosovo and received as a result of 6 two hundred hundredth blind manners, quickly got out of there tries ... :-)))
    And even earlier, on February 1, 2017, the warriors also wanted to stay in Gladosovo and also quickly jumped out of there.
    About losses in February - silent ...
    For the last visit to Gladosovo, the ukro-Wehrmacht received either 12 or 15 blindfolds in 9 days.
    This is by their own confession ...
    In reality, of course, ukro-zhmurov probably got a lot more than a platoon ...
    IDEyoty learn only from their own mistakes.
    And xoxlo-idYETY do NOT learn anything at all !!! :-)))
    1. Lelek
      Lelek 2 December 2017 18: 40 New
      +1
      Quote: Sharikov Polygraph Poligrafovich
      Rake Boy Hopak - Ukro-Wehrmacht's favorite dance


      And what can you do if there are only enemies around, whose greedy eyes just look to steal from the most powerful in Europe, the most prosperous and most democratic country under the name of Ukraine.
  10. Illegal
    Illegal 2 December 2017 10: 49 New
    +3
    General Staff of the Armed Forces ...? It sounds too loud!
    the film Weddings in the Robin immediately remembered ..
  11. LeonidL
    LeonidL 3 December 2017 03: 34 New
    0
    The Minsk conspiracy is a useless chatter.