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Long-range Tu-22М3 bombers hit IG * facilities in Syria

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Six long-range Tu-22М3 bombers struck IG terrorists' facilities * (* - a grouping banned in the Russian Federation) in Deir-ez-Zor province, the Russian Defense Ministry reported.


1 December 2017, six long-range Tu-22М3 bombers struck a group attack against IG * terrorists in Deir ez-Zor
- Said in the Ministry of Defense of Russia

Long-range Tu-22М3 bombers hit IG * facilities in Syria


Taking off from the airfield on the territory of Russia, the planes hit strongholds and terrorist equipment.

The military department stressed that "all the designated targets were destroyed, which was confirmed by means of objective control, carried out with the help of special technical means."

Fighteraviation cover for long-range bombers in Syrian airspace was provided by Su-30SM fighters based at the Khmeimim airfield
- added to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.
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Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation
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  1. 1331M
    1331M 1 December 2017 18: 45 New
    11
    Well, that’s it, finally? Have all the expired bombs been disposed of? Crews have trained? Well, stop hammering nails with microscopes. smile
    1. Herculesic
      Herculesic 1 December 2017 18: 49 New
      13
      Alex, as far as I remember? A place on board the warship “Trouble” will suit you! !! wassat
      1. 1331M
        1331M 1 December 2017 18: 56 New
        +6

        Alex. wink On board which Ship will I decide to be myself.
        1. sabakina
          sabakina 1 December 2017 21: 07 New
          +4
          Quote: 1331M
          Alex. wink On board which Ship will I decide to be myself.

          Patriarch Alexy II, in the world Alexei Mikhailovich Ridiger, bishop of the Russian Orthodox Church; from June 7, 1990 to December 5, 2008 - Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia.

          Really myself? So you died ....
          1. 1331M
            1331M 1 December 2017 21: 37 New
            +7
            You've messed up everything, Slav, however, as always ... I have nothing to do with the Russian Orthodox Church ... Go to bed ... wink Sleep is the best medicine for drugged wines ... Tomorrow you will feel better, you’ll only have a sleep list, and your friends have gone down, nobody will give you pluses, that’s bad luck ... laughing laughing laughing
            1. sabakina
              sabakina 1 December 2017 21: 43 New
              +5
              1331M, as my guide says, getting into the car at 18.00, “Well, the working day begins ....” So, I can only dream of wine, like peace.
              Tomorrow it will be better for you, you’ll only get a sleepover, and your friends have settled down, plus no one will put you, that's bad luck

              No, you are sure, or archpriest or psychologist!
              1. 1331M
                1331M 1 December 2017 21: 50 New
                +5
                I am an oilman at the moment, and we don’t know what will happen tomorrow ... wink
                1. sabakina
                  sabakina 1 December 2017 21: 54 New
                  +6
                  Quote: 1331M
                  I am an oilman at the moment, and we don’t know what will happen tomorrow ... wink

                  That's for sure, for as one film says: "If a philosopher could become an undertaker, then why an undertaker cannot become a philosopher?" hi
                  1. Logall
                    Logall 1 December 2017 22: 05 New
                    +9
                    Comrades hi , the topic of how they send to the other world - were you drawn to talk about the eternal? Philosophy is good!
                    Let the undertaker wait!
                    1. sabakina
                      sabakina 1 December 2017 22: 16 New
                      +3
                      Sanya, it’s about the eternal, why do they fly and don’t fall? Yes, hi
                      1. Logall
                        Logall 1 December 2017 22: 27 New
                        +9
                        Something like that!
                        Children came running into the hut,
                        In a hurry, they call their father:
                        “Aunt! aunt! our networks
                        They brought the dead man. ”
                        “Again the dead man?” And I wanted, even today, to eat fish ... wink
                    2. HEATHER
                      HEATHER 2 December 2017 07: 14 New
                      +1
                      Let the undertaker wait! You're right. He always has time.
    2. Alexander 3
      Alexander 3 1 December 2017 18: 51 New
      +9
      Let them fly, gain experience and hone their skills. Not one flight can be like the previous one. Always have their own characteristics.
      1. Panikovsky
        Panikovsky 1 December 2017 19: 14 New
        +5
        Quote: Alexander 3
        Let them fly, gain experience and hone their skills. Not one flight can be like the previous one. Always have their own characteristics.

        And besides, training on targets at the training grounds is costly, and the actual extermination of barmaley gives a significant economic effect.
        1. Maki Avellevich
          Maki Avellevich 1 December 2017 23: 43 New
          +1
          Quote: Panikovsky
          And besides, training on targets at the training grounds is costly, and the actual extermination of barmaley gives a significant economic effect.


          the economic effect of military operations can be extracted only with the right strategy, and a bit of luck. wink
          I hope that Russia has one. nevertheless, the Russian spirit is closer to me personally than Anglo-Saxon.
          1. Panikovsky
            Panikovsky 6 December 2017 21: 53 New
            +2
            Quote: Maki Avellievich
            I hope that Russia has one. nevertheless, the Russian spirit is closer to me personally than Anglo-Saxon.

            That in Russia there is everything that we can do, I’m sure of that, I doubt very much your Russian spirit.
      2. 210ox
        210ox 1 December 2017 20: 41 New
        0
        I have such an opinion (I hope that is true) that ALL pilots, except probably on the MiG31, are flying in Syria
        Quote: Alexander 3
        Let them fly, gain experience and hone their skills. Not one flight can be like the previous one. Always have their own characteristics.
        1. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 2 December 2017 01: 02 New
          +1
          Quote: 210ox
          that ALL pilots, except probably on MIG31 run in Syria

          At the beginning of this year, the Ministry of Defense voiced that about 90% l / s passed through Syria.
    3. Herculesic
      Herculesic 1 December 2017 18: 52 New
      +8
      Alexei, for the future, try to scoop up a soup with a microscope! wassat
      1. The comment was deleted.
      2. HEATHER
        HEATHER 2 December 2017 07: 23 New
        +3
        Yes, okay, Herculesych. A person does not fumble in the subject, he needs to be enlightened. And the car is just Fantastic! So many years!
    4. Teberii
      Teberii 1 December 2017 18: 53 New
      +4
      You also need to know how to use microscopes, that they are just to be chased. Yes, and bombs are also not eternal, they must be disposed of.
    5. vovanpain
      vovanpain 1 December 2017 19: 15 New
      +7
      Quote: 1331M
      Well, that’s it, finally? Have all the expired bombs been disposed of? Crews have trained? Well, stop hammering nails with microscopes. smile

      And here it’s not for you to decide whether Lesha will be enough or not enough, the General Staff is there and they know better than to us on the sofas. hi
      1. 1331M
        1331M 1 December 2017 19: 23 New
        +7
        Yes, I just asked, decide what you want. laughing You can still stoke a paper boat with cannons from the sea, for example ... hi
        1. zivXP
          zivXP 1 December 2017 19: 29 New
          +4
          Drown, drown, unless of course you can.
        2. vovanpain
          vovanpain 1 December 2017 19: 39 New
          +6
          Quote: 1331M
          decide what you want.

          Well, thanks, Alex allowed laughing As I see Gerasimov or Shoigu, I will definitely give them fellow
          Quote: 1331M
          You can still stoke a paper boat with cannons from the sea, for example ...

          It’s possible, everything can be fired even from cannons at sparrows, but there wouldn’t be Syria with barmales, there wouldn’t be such trainings of long-range bombers with real combat targets and targets, but not with wooden ones at training grounds. wink hi
    6. alexmach
      alexmach 1 December 2017 19: 42 New
      +5
      some kind of painful figure 6 is suspicious. Are there 6 of them left on the wing?
      Could the Su-30s providing the cover do the same damage for the same number of sorties by unguided bombs?
      1. Piramidon
        Piramidon 1 December 2017 19: 59 New
        +4
        Quote: alexmach
        Could the Su-30s providing the cover do the same damage for the same number of sorties by unguided bombs?

        To do this, they need to deliver these bombs to Syria. And then immediately 3 in 1 - and the disposal of ammunition, and the training of crews, and the elimination of barmaley.
      2. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 1 December 2017 20: 58 New
        +4
        There are a total of 20. There are 14 participating in the sorties to Syria. Apparently, two groups of 6, in turn.
        1. sabakina
          sabakina 1 December 2017 21: 17 New
          +2
          Alexey, 2x6 = 12. Where are you two more? am
          1. Piramidon
            Piramidon 1 December 2017 21: 31 New
            +5
            Quote: sabakina
            Alexey, 2x6 = 12. Where are you two more? am

            In aviation, there is such a rule - a certain number of main and spare planes are prepared for each flight. And the one who was a substitute today may tomorrow be the main one. For example, our Tu-95 took off on a mission in pairs, but 3 planes were fully prepared for each departure. In the event of any failure on the main - a spare took off. In addition, do not think that they constantly use the same aircraft. Some of them are on routine maintenance, some are on troubleshooting, replacing engines ... There is a constant rotation. So in aviation 2x2 is not always = 4
            1. sabakina
              sabakina 1 December 2017 21: 34 New
              +2
              Stepan, Alexey writes that involved 14! Maybe the remaining 6 are spare? But where are those 2?
              1. Piramidon
                Piramidon 1 December 2017 21: 55 New
                0
                Quote: sabakina
                Stepan, Alexey writes that involved 14! Maybe the remaining 6 are spare? But where are those 2?

                And how much is currently undergoing modernization and repair?
                1. sabakina
                  sabakina 1 December 2017 22: 02 New
                  +2
                  Stepan, hell knows! don't let me go there!
                  1. Going
                    Going 1 December 2017 22: 31 New
                    +8
                    Quote: sabakina
                    Alexey, 2x6 = 12. Where are you two more? am


                    He did not think, but most importantly what he said. Greetings Vyacheslav! hi
                2. Yuyuka
                  Yuyuka 1 December 2017 23: 34 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Piramidon
                  Quote: sabakina
                  Stepan, Alexey writes that involved 14! Maybe the remaining 6 are spare? But where are those 2?

                  And how much is currently undergoing modernization and repair?


                  "-In the morning, money - in the evening chairs, in the evening money - in the morning chairs.
                  - Is it possible this way: in the morning chairs - in the evening money?
                  - Can! But money is ahead! "(C)

                  make a prepayment first ... repeat then detailed information wassat
        2. alexmach
          alexmach 1 December 2017 21: 26 New
          +2
          pedivikia writes 62.
          Of these, most likely some are not able to fly into the air. The voiced numbers were from 20 to 40 combat ready or suitable for restoration ... But this is all at the level of guesswork in my opinion.
        3. RF man
          RF man 1 December 2017 21: 32 New
          +1
          Quote: voyaka uh
          In total I stand 20

          They seemed to only threaten to upgrade by 2020 pieces of 30?
          1. zivXP
            zivXP 1 December 2017 22: 37 New
            0
            So there probably take into account not only bombers. There are other board specifications as well.
        4. Tusv
          Tusv 1 December 2017 22: 01 New
          +1
          Quote: voyaka uh
          There are a total of 20. There are 14 participating in the sorties to Syria. Apparently, two groups of 6, in turn
          .
          Did you want to say that in the South-East Military District 20 in the ranks ?. In the Far East, I’ve lived like that, there are already many more than 20
          1. Rushnairfors
            Rushnairfors 3 December 2017 06: 24 New
            +2
            They were not born in SEE
    7. siberalt
      siberalt 1 December 2017 19: 46 New
      +1
      It’s time for terrorists to transfer to two-wheeled motorcycles so that there are more mobile targets for the aerospace forces. lol
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 1 December 2017 21: 36 New
        +2
        Quote: siberalt
        It’s time for terrorists to transfer to two-wheeled motorcycles so that there are more mobile targets for the aerospace forces. lol

        Barbaley on a scooter? No, well, Hott @ bull on the linoleum plane I saw ... in the movies ...
        1. RF man
          RF man 2 December 2017 01: 14 New
          +1

          Shaheedbikes already in progress ...
      2. Tusv
        Tusv 1 December 2017 23: 44 New
        +1
        Quote: siberalt
        It’s time for terrorists to transfer to two-wheeled motorcycles so that there are more mobile targets for the aerospace forces

        And what's the difference on what clunker they drive? The hellish Guria appealed to the VKS marriage agency. We are satisfied with the contract, all the more so for the future “brides,” and who will ask these barmoglots?
      3. Maki Avellevich
        Maki Avellevich 1 December 2017 23: 46 New
        +1
        Quote: siberalt
        It’s time for terrorists to transfer to two-wheeled motorcycles so that there are more mobile targets for the aerospace forces.


        better on buses
    8. Piramidon
      Piramidon 1 December 2017 19: 57 New
      +5
      Quote: 1331M
      Well, that’s it, finally? Have all the expired bombs been disposed of? Crews have trained? Well, stop hammering nails with microscopes. smile

      These bombs will be enough for another 15 years. Count how many arsenals are scattered throughout Russia. And at the expense of microscopes, they have already said 100/500 times that it is better to bombarmalians than to bomb these stupid bombs in ravines.
      Py.Sy. In addition to microscopes, you forgot to write about "polymers"
      1. Alexander 3
        Alexander 3 1 December 2017 20: 12 New
        +2
        Ah guys, "military science must be studied in this way"
    9. Don't See Evil
      Don't See Evil 1 December 2017 23: 33 New
      +3
      Indeed, ... a long time ago there were no specific hits of recorded videos (although they would beat them six without a break). By and large, even my portable GPS shows three meters, on average, at the points noted earlier when I use it. And here, often, bombs and rockets fall near or to the edge of the building (ten or more perimeters by ten meters, or even more), and the video shows that the walls do not fall. And from what we are shown, apparently the best hits.
      1. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 2 December 2017 01: 16 New
        +1
        Цитата: Не Вижу Зла
        And here, often, bombs and missiles fall near or to the edge of the building (with a perimeter of more than ten by ten meters, and even more), and the video shows that the walls do not fall.

        So, appreciate the filigree execution - the house is intact, and inside - minced meat and vinaigrette. fellow
  2. Herculesic
    Herculesic 1 December 2017 18: 50 New
    +1
    This week, if I'm not mistaken the third time they bombed there!
  3. pvv113
    pvv113 1 December 2017 18: 51 New
    +8
    Today in the Armed Forces the beginning of a new school year. It seems that this was the first practical lesson in the new school year, and the crews received positive marks! good
    1. bouncyhunter
      bouncyhunter 1 December 2017 18: 56 New
      +4
      Volodya, hello! hi
      Quote: pvv113
      Today in the Armed Forces the beginning of a new school year. It seems that this was the first practical lesson in the new school year, and the crews received positive marks! good

      The new school year begins with consolidation of the material covered. wink lol
      1. pvv113
        pvv113 1 December 2017 18: 58 New
        +5
        Hello Pasha! Dalniki didn’t let us down - performance at the highest level! good
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 1 December 2017 19: 05 New
          +2
          I understand your pride in them. wink I agree with you all 120%! drinks
          1. pvv113
            pvv113 1 December 2017 19: 08 New
            +2
            Pasha, I will not praise the Long-Range Aviation, everything is already evident from its work in Syria! And you're right, I'm proud of these guys!
            1. bouncyhunter
              bouncyhunter 1 December 2017 19: 12 New
              +2
              Quote: pvv113
              everything is already visible from her work in Syria!

              If the barmalei have any complaints about the work of the far-offers, let Shaitan be provided in writing. lol
              Quote: pvv113
              And you're right, I'm proud of these guys!

              Have someone, buddy! good
              1. pvv113
                pvv113 1 December 2017 19: 37 New
                +2
                Quote: bouncyhunter
                If the barmalei have complaints about the work of the far-distance workers, let Shaitan be provided in writing

                If anyone remains laughing
      2. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 2 December 2017 01: 12 New
        +2
        Quote: bouncyhunter
        The new school year begins with consolidation of the material covered.

        Training aids (target fields) provide mattresses. We must hit the State Department and Congress that the Pentagon is in collusion with the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation - let it be cleaned. yes
    2. tol100v
      tol100v 1 December 2017 18: 57 New
      +3
      Quote: pvv113
      Today in the Armed Forces the beginning of a new school year.

      And I want to hear that not six, but sixty students sat at their desks and began to study discipline: How to defend the Homeland!
      1. pvv113
        pvv113 1 December 2017 19: 03 New
        +2
        Ideally, all students would master this science wink
  4. Livonetc
    Livonetc 1 December 2017 19: 05 New
    +2
    Quote: 1331M

    Alex. wink On board which Ship will I decide to be myself.

    Then overboard.
    Drive nails on the ground, locally.
    1. 1331M
      1331M 1 December 2017 19: 12 New
      +4
      That's whose opinion I was always interested in. laughing laughing laughing I didn’t sleep at night, I was waiting for everything — what would the Wise One tell me, on which path of the Truth would Teacher take? You made me the evening after work, listen carefully, Solntselik !!! PSA has something to say on the topic?
  5. Egorovich
    Egorovich 1 December 2017 19: 06 New
    +6
    Knead the barmalei well. And reading and watching is a pleasure. Well done VKS of Russia !!!
    1. bouncyhunter
      bouncyhunter 1 December 2017 19: 14 New
      +5
      hi This is how the pilots of the Russian Aerospace Forces combine the useful with the pleasant: they reduce the number of barmales and receive invaluable combat experience.
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 1 December 2017 19: 27 New
        +7
        Pasha, hello hi
        Quote: bouncyhunter
        hi This is how the pilots of the Russian Aerospace Forces combine the useful with the pleasant: they reduce the number of barmales and receive invaluable combat experience.

        And they consume the 22nd resource, and the BC is not full, and the goryukhs eat like a herd of elephants at a watering place ... the question is: What vegetable are the 34th and 24th in Khmeimim? And why do we base them there? For the Air Force (Mattress Media) or Aljazir?
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 1 December 2017 19: 38 New
          +5
          Hi Andrew ! hi
          For the 34th and 24th and what they do in Hmeimim I will not tell you, because I do not know. As for the Tu-22M3, in my opinion, it’s not just that they are being driven to bomb not training, but real targets. But what considerations the General Staff is guided by, neither you nor I know, and no one will tell us.
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 1 December 2017 19: 42 New
            +9
            Quote: bouncyhunter
            But what considerations the General Staff is guided by, neither you nor I know, and no one will tell us.

            Pasha, I’ll tell you what considerations the guide is guided by ... these are the same eggs as with the Caliber, only in profile. Show the world that our dalniks are not made of cardboard, and the bombs are not filled with shit. That's all the manuals.
            1. bouncyhunter
              bouncyhunter 1 December 2017 19: 44 New
              +3
              I understand that you do not approve of this?
              1. NEXUS
                NEXUS 1 December 2017 19: 46 New
                +8
                Quote: bouncyhunter
                I understand that you do not approve of this?

                Pasha, perhaps these gestures and have some kind of political result, but from the point of view of strategy and tactics, this is complete, forgive me, idiocy. Dalniki can also be driven into exercises, and this will not change the essence.
                1. bouncyhunter
                  bouncyhunter 1 December 2017 19: 48 New
                  +6
                  Maybe you're right, Andrey. But I think that people at the General Staff are not just sitting there either.
                  1. NEXUS
                    NEXUS 1 December 2017 19: 53 New
                    +7
                    Quote: bouncyhunter
                    Maybe you're right, Andrey. But I think that people at the General Staff are not just sitting there either.

                    For me, these jumps with long distances have only a POLITICAL vector. As well as for the most part shooting Caliber (nifiga not cheap). All the same could be done by 24,34, and helicopter pilots and the result would be no worse, and much cheaper.
                    Although the volley of calibers for the first time was indisputably needed, as was the exit of the strategists. But why repeat it regularly for the world, as for downs? The very same hysteria is inflating this anti-Russian.
                  2. sabakina
                    sabakina 1 December 2017 21: 28 New
                    +4
                    Pash, I agree with you and disagree with Andrey. Landfill and fly through several countries and drop bombs on a real enemy things diametrically opposite.
                    1. NEXUS
                      NEXUS 1 December 2017 21: 37 New
                      +8
                      Quote: sabakina
                      Landfill and fly through several countries and drop bombs on a real enemy things diametrically opposite.

                      Given the size of our country, what to fly from one end of the country to the other, what to fly several countries is one and the same and it is not yet known where the distance will be greater.
                      1. sabakina
                        sabakina 1 December 2017 21: 51 New
                        +3
                        Andryukha, flying over their territories and the territory of 3 countries is the same thing?
                      2. Warrior-80
                        Warrior-80 1 December 2017 22: 34 New
                        +3
                        Sorry to interfere in your conversation, but I think the conversation about the work of our long-range truck that they fly in vain is somehow stupid, then we complain that our pilots sat on the ground in the 90s, we say that they fly in vain, you think it's better to drive ours to the far vain east and also burn a resource or usefully in Syria
                    2. NEXUS
                      NEXUS 1 December 2017 21: 55 New
                      +4
                      Quote: sabakina
                      Andryukha, flying over their territories and the territory of 3 countries is the same thing?

                      In terms of distance, yes, it’s the same thing ... and in terms of the size of the haemorrhoids with contracts and agreements on the flight over the territories of these countries, these are certainly not commensurate concepts.
                      1. sabakina
                        sabakina 1 December 2017 22: 06 New
                        +4
                        Andrey, you do not understand me. We know our tracks by heart. And the strangers? How to fly, whom to watch and listen ... Andryukha, well, turn on your head! Yes, the resource of dvigunov wears out, and what to do? Fly 500 there and 500 back on the famous highway?
                    3. NEXUS
                      NEXUS 1 December 2017 22: 50 New
                      +5
                      Quote: Warrior-80
                      then we say that they fly in vain

                      I'm not talking about the fact that they fly in vain in principle. I’m saying that driving long-range and a half BK to hell with horns is stupid, because the bombers, attack aircraft and helicopters located in Khmeimim can do the same.
                      Quote: Warrior-80
                      you think that it’s better to drive ours to the Far East in vain and also burn a resource or usefully in Syria

                      I believe that chasing the 22nd to Syria, we only work out everything the same as in the exercises, and there is no combat experience here. There is one point is the test of new weapons for the TU-22 and more.
                      And the rest is more a political step than a military one.
                2. vovanpain
                  vovanpain 1 December 2017 22: 06 New
                  +5
                  Quote: NEXUS
                  Dalniki can also be driven into exercises, and this will not change the essence.

                  Andrei can drive around the country and practice plywood targets, but all this will not replace real combat experience and real targets, but where can you gain such experience? Only in a real war. Polygons are not Syria with barmales. hi
                  Quote: NEXUS
                  The very same hysteria is inflating this anti-Russian.

                  So what, we do our job, they do their own and the more the squeal from them, the better, so they are not mistaken, we are doing everything right.
                  1. NEXUS
                    NEXUS 1 December 2017 22: 13 New
                    +5
                    Quote: vovanpain
                    Landfills are not Syria with barmaley.

                    Volodya, how does the Syrian raid differ from the raid on the landfill? M. ISIS has its own air defense, air force, to gain this very real combat experience? Did our carcasses break through ISIS air defense or did our cover fighters shoot down Igil's interceptors?

                    Quote: vovanpain
                    So what, we do our job, they do their own and the more the squeal from them, the better, so they are not mistaken, we are doing everything right.

                    Neither mattresses nor Europeans are not downs; they don’t need to repeat a hundred times a day what we can and if anything, we’ll fuck. But answer me a question - If a monkey with a gun loaded is constantly frightened, what is the likelihood that she will pull the trigger with a fright? But we were already designated as the axis of Evil. Look at what is being done with the Europeans and our closest neighbors, such as Poland and the Baltic states.
                    1. zivXP
                      zivXP 1 December 2017 22: 44 New
                      +1
                      Neither mattresses nor Europeans are not downs; they don’t need to repeat a hundred times a day what we can and if anything, we’ll fuck.

                      That is yes. But they didn’t know that we could DO this not just once, but permanently.
                      1. NEXUS
                        NEXUS 1 December 2017 22: 52 New
                        +4
                        Quote: zivXP
                        But they didn’t know that we could DO this not just once, but permanently.

                        Nothing that the war is already 2 years? How many more years do they need to prove and show that?
                  2. sabakina
                    sabakina 1 December 2017 22: 22 New
                    +3
                    Vovka, pryuvet! I thought that one was shooting back ... I believe that no training ground can replace a real bombardment through three countries. It’s enough to recall the film of Leonid Bykov ...
                    1. NEXUS
                      NEXUS 1 December 2017 22: 29 New
                      +7
                      Quote: sabakina
                      Vovka, pryuvet! I thought that one was shooting back ... I believe that no training ground can replace a real bombardment through three countries. It’s enough to recall the film of Leonid Bykov ...

                      Guys, let me not attack you ... understand that there is no combat experience from the word at all. There is no equivalent enemy who would counteract our bombing, spans, etc. ... flew, dropped, flew away. Everything is the same as in the exercises in essence.
                      And what we see, it only has a political resonance for the most part, although not without the fact that they sent a couple of hundred dushmans to the forefathers.
                      1. vovanpain
                        vovanpain 1 December 2017 23: 45 New
                        +4
                        Quote: NEXUS
                        Nothing that the war is already 2 years? How many more years do they need to prove and show that?

                        Andrey, as long as we exist, so much needs to be shown and proved that Russia is not Iraq, neither Libya, nor Afghanistan will be thrown out again in the 90s, we will sit on the airfields, sometimes they will be allowed to fly if they find aviation kerosene. request
                        Quote: NEXUS
                        Guys, let me not attack you ... understand that there is no combat experience from the word at all.

                        Yes, Andrei does not even say that you are attacking or not, you have your own opinion, we have a different opinion with Slava and we are having a discussion, we can agree, we can disagree, but they will judge us at the General Staff anyway. laughing drinks
                        Quote: NEXUS
                        although not without the fact that they sent a couple of hundred dushmans to the forefathers.

                        Here, the plus himself called a couple of hundreds of villains will no longer harm the world. wink
                        Quote: NEXUS
                        But we were already designated as the axis of Evil. Look at what is being done with the Europeans and our closest neighbors, such as Poland and the Baltic states.

                        Here Andrei, here I don’t recognize you belay Yes, even if they crap one’s pants, but only to their health, maybe they’ll finally choke on their bile. If they were sitting on the ground, the same sprotolabuses would howl for another reason, there would be Russia, but there will always be a reason. laughing Let them beat ISIS over there, since 2014; they have been hollowing or since 13 under the wise leadership of the United States and what the Barmalei have only expanded, Russia has come and you can see for yourself. By the way, the war in Syria has been going on since 2011. hi
                        Quote: NEXUS
                        All the same could be done by 24,34, and helicopter pilots and the result would be no worse, and much cheaper.

                        And we have a lot of them there Andrei? Now they are much more needed in Idlib than in Deir ez Zora, and here they will work fine and far away. Andrew with respect Colleague. drinks hi
                        Quote: sabakina
                        I believe that no training ground can replace a real bombardment through three countries.

                        And this is also Glory drinks Hello Be Dear! drinks hi
                      2. RF man
                        RF man 2 December 2017 01: 17 New
                        +1
                        [quote = NEXUS] [quote = sabakina] that there is no combat experience from the word at all. . [/ quote]
                        The attack aircraft and helicopter pilots have - judging by the video of the opponents
        2. okko077
          okko077 1 December 2017 23: 23 New
          +2
          But they are standing there, because there is nothing more to stand ... They drove away all the SU-17M4 and MiG-27 that should be standing there ... And these kerosene are also consumed unmeasured, especially the SU-24 M .... So, it turns out they are a microscope, and the TU-22M3 is already a telescope and they are driving nails into the richest state in the world ....
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 2 December 2017 02: 02 New
            +4
            Цитата: Человек РФ
            The attack aircraft and helicopter pilots have - judging by the video of the opponents

            For attack aircraft and helicopter pilots, in fact, they have REALLY REAL BATTLE EXPERIENCE, as they fly at heights where they can be taken from the ground. Here I completely agree with you.
            1. RF man
              RF man 2 December 2017 12: 07 New
              +1
              Quote: NEXUS
              where they can get them from the ground.

              They get it .. I don’t know about the shot down, but I saw them once on the video ..
              Strong Narva among men .. ZSU-23-2 just hit them at point blank range ...
  6. Gale
    Gale 1 December 2017 19: 13 New
    +1
    so the last stronghold of ig has long been taken, who are they bombing there with strategists so desperately? request
    1. Evgenijus
      Evgenijus 1 December 2017 20: 41 New
      0
      ... and you offer plywood tanks near Rostov to shreds? Or for computers to play war games? What are your suggestions on the preparation of long-range combat crews?
  7. NEXUS
    NEXUS 1 December 2017 19: 14 New
    +8
    Dalniki, of course, is great ... training and all that. But in Khmeimim there are SU-34 and SU-24, which could do the same thing without burning so much fuel and without jumping, like saigas, through half the world, so that they don’t even throw full BC (20 tons), since the road is not close to them.
    1. Esoteric
      Esoteric 1 December 2017 19: 28 New
      +7
      Quote: NEXUS
      across the half of the world to throw off even not full BK (20 tons), since their road is not close.

      God forbid, while the bombs will be brought to Syria, closer to the Su-24, Su-34, they will explode belay And so, right from the warehouse ...
      This is always the case with us. We smoke a meter - we throw two. Military equipment is released piece by piece and rejoice, as if the compound was armed. And there are always excuses for something. Simply say, there is already no one to do, how to teach and heal. A country where embezzlers and swindlers live well ... We survived ...
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 1 December 2017 19: 37 New
        +7
        Quote: Esoteric
        A country where embezzlers and swindlers live well ... We survived ...

        I will answer you with the words of Chernomyrdin ...
        “The government is not a body where only language is possible.”
        1. jrvp79
          jrvp79 2 December 2017 09: 07 New
          +3
          While many here argue "about nothing", the last defense plants and enterprises are being sold under the guise of privatization, only the people are silent about this.
          People pour all kinds of nonsense into our ears, like we are the coolest and most advanced. Meanwhile, laws are already being passed that Russian cannot be considered native. And about the General Staff I can say one thing: the fish rots from the head. Now, on the topic, is it really necessary to spend on barmaley? Where is the strategy here? Not to see something.
          1. badens1111
            badens1111 2 December 2017 09: 14 New
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            Quote: jrvp79
            Now on the topic, is it really necessary to spend such funds on barmaley? Where is the strategy here? Not to see something.

            Well, then your strategy is visible immediately, surrender and the whole short period .. therefore, the General Staff is bad for you and the DD carries the wrong bomb ..
            1. Vintovkin
              Vintovkin 2 December 2017 09: 32 New
              +1
              Quote: badens1111
              Well, your strategy is immediately visible,

              Your strategy, too, is a high-tech war for you - this is when old, still Soviet planes carry old Soviet bombs in the literal sense of the distant lands .. fellow
              1. badens1111
                badens1111 2 December 2017 10: 00 New
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                Quote: Vintovkin
                this is when old, still Soviet planes carry old still Soviet bombs in the literal sense for distant lands ..

                What did you want to say?
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 1 December 2017 19: 40 New
        +2
        In the USSR, of course, it was easier to produce - immediately into ten divisions, since 70% of GDP - went to the military-industrial complex.
        1. badens1111
          badens1111 2 December 2017 09: 15 New
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          Quote: Vadim237
          In the USSR, of course, it was easier to produce - immediately into ten divisions, since 70% of GDP - went to the military-industrial complex.

          Who told you such fiction? The light from the mezzanine read?
    2. Odysseus
      Odysseus 1 December 2017 20: 54 New
      +3
      Quote: NEXUS
      Dalniki, of course, is great ... training and all that. But in Khmeimim there are SU-34 and SU-24, which could do the same thing without burning so much fuel and without jumping, like saigas, through half the world, so that they don’t even throw full BC (20 tons), since the road is not close to them.

      There are many goals, the war ends only on TV. Su-24 (and the main load on them) just do not have time everywhere.
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 1 December 2017 21: 11 New
        +5
        Quote: Odyssey
        There are many goals, the war ends only on TV. Su-24 (and the main load on them) just do not have time everywhere.

        And the 34th and 25th are there for the entourage with helicopter pilots?
        1. Odysseus
          Odysseus 1 December 2017 23: 12 New
          +1
          Quote: NEXUS
          And the 34th and 25th are there for the entourage with helicopter pilots?

          No, of course. Everyone uses it, just the Su-24 is the most intense. The Su-25 is very useful. But still not enough.
          On the whole, I agree with you that it is not advisable to use the Tu-22 for such purposes. But then we must not reduce, but increase the group in Syria.
    3. sabakina
      sabakina 1 December 2017 21: 31 New
      +4
      Andryukha, here's a hot cut me, BUT! I studied at a vocational school for 3 years, while already working, I personally did not disassemble the GAZ-52 clutch, I still did not understand how it works.
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 1 December 2017 21: 42 New
        +7
        Quote: sabakina
        Andryukha, here's a hot cut me, BUT! I studied at a vocational school for 3 years, while already working, I personally did not disassemble the GAZ-52 clutch, I still did not understand how it works.

        There are teachings for this. But given the fact that the 22nd in combat readiness, we don’t have 60 pieces, and the resource is also not rubber, to drive distant horns with a third BC, forgive me, these are just cheap show-offs for the world community.
        And for the money it is, well, not cheap pleasure. At the same time, there are 34th, 24th, 25th and helicopters on Hmeimim. And the number of combat sorties in comparison with the beginning of the operation is very reduced. And the excuse that they stupidly do not have time, too, is not in cash.
        1. sabakina
          sabakina 1 December 2017 21: 58 New
          +3
          Andryukha, I don’t even know what to say .. On the one hand, real combat experience, on the other, economy of equipment ...
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 1 December 2017 22: 06 New
            +7
            Quote: sabakina
            On the one hand, real combat experience,

            You know, real combat experience is when there is a confrontation between the Air Force and the adversary’s air defense, and a dalnyak, under the guise of fighters, breaks through to the point of discharge. And what the 22nd in Syria is doing is the same teachings, with the only difference being that the combat BC.
            Quote: sabakina
            saving material ...

            Do not forget what year the TU-22 and even in the modernization version, their resource is only extended, not updated.
            1. sabakina
              sabakina 1 December 2017 22: 28 New
              +4
              Andrei, the lack of opposition to air defense .... Yes, there is, but what if the mattresses do not want to fight themselves? Yes, there’s some kind of minus in it, but this small minus is better now than the big one then ...
              1. NEXUS
                NEXUS 1 December 2017 22: 39 New
                +5
                Quote: sabakina
                Yes, there is, but what to do if the mattresses do not want to fight themselves?

                That's why I asked, What kind of vegetable in Hmeimim are 24,34,25, helicopters? I’m silent about the Syrian Air Force.
                Driving long-range with a combat BC is certainly great. But from a rational, economic and tactical point of view, it is pure water.
                Combat experience is gained when there is real military opposition. But for the carcasses this opposition is not, from the word at all. Although yes, access to the discharge point, new communication and target designation systems, testing ligaments with cover fighters ... except if you look at this angle ... but all this can be tested and worked out at the training ground.
          2. NN52
            NN52 1 December 2017 22: 28 New
            10
            Sorry to interfere ...

            To fly in your flight area is one thing ..

            A sortie, this is different ... You don’t understand.
            1. sabakina
              sabakina 1 December 2017 22: 35 New
              +3
              Dmitry, how do you know that we do not understand? Suppose my last name is Agarkov, because my father is from the Kursk region, and Ogarkov is written in Kostroma. Maybe I'm a rebirth of the headquarters?
              1. NN52
                NN52 1 December 2017 23: 10 New
                10
                Yes, even Ustinov ....
                Only if you have not finished Armavir, then go through the forest ....
                And don't drink pzhl today anymore ....

                Harmful to the elderly already drink ...
  8. demo
    demo 1 December 2017 19: 17 New
    +1
    They flew, shipped, returned.
    Previously, the Ministry of Defense posted pictures and commented on TV.
    And now the routine.
    By the way, the Letaks flew and the barmaleis were sent to Allah.
    Gorgeous.
  9. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 1 December 2017 19: 25 New
    +2
    Looks like they’ve gotten tight .. our there, like shuttles fly ...
  10. faterdom
    faterdom 1 December 2017 19: 38 New
    +1
    Here she is - measured regular sex life!
  11. Simon
    Simon 1 December 2017 19: 47 New
    +1
    Well, that igilovtsy, receive greetings from the Russian Aerospace Forces for the destruction of the civilian population of Syria! negative
  12. DEPARTMENT-M27
    DEPARTMENT-M27 1 December 2017 19: 51 New
    +1
    The USA and other devils are squeezed out of Syria!
    400 marines have already urgently taken out of Our blow, run gentlemen, run! .. Russians are very angry now ..!
  13. donavi49
    donavi49 1 December 2017 20: 13 New
    +1
    Meanwhile, a crocodile was shot down in the South (almost certainly a Syrian, because there are almost only Syrians flying to bomb moderate babahs).
  14. System
    System 1 December 2017 20: 43 New
    0
    Russia is wetting and no one will stop it, on its WAY!
  15. brr1
    brr1 1 December 2017 21: 42 New
    +1
    And why is the result on earth not shown once by means of objective control confirmed? The bomb drop video no longer starts, where is the show?
    1. alexhol
      alexhol 1 December 2017 22: 34 New
      -2
      Well, this "civilian specialist" was fired. "Kina will not be."
  16. RF man
    RF man 2 December 2017 01: 41 New
    +2
    Человек РФ,
    Человек РФ,
    Well, not only aviators work.
    The work of the Russian UAV on target designation. Presumably for 152 mm US.
  17. jrvp79
    jrvp79 2 December 2017 09: 56 New
    +1
    Quote: badens1111
    Quote: jrvp79
    Now on the topic, is it really necessary to spend such funds on barmaley? Where is the strategy here? Not to see something.

    Well, then your strategy is visible immediately, surrender and the whole short period .. therefore, the General Staff is bad for you and the DD carries the wrong bomb ..

    Where did I write about this? Did I offer to give up? Are you a pro-Western Troll !! I mean, the country and the people have been sold together for a long time, and now they have begun to ban their native language. Stalin is not in our time in Russia, there would be less traitors and trolls.
  18. Vintovkin
    Vintovkin 2 December 2017 10: 06 New
    0
    Quote: badens1111
    What did you want to say?

    Yes, all the same - about the lack of strategy and the TV picture no more.
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