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Poroshenko: the Code of laws of Kievan Rus has no relation to Russia

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Recently, Ukrainian politicians, feeling that you cannot go too far in Ukrainian nationalism, decided to quietly rewrite history Ancient Rus, since neither Ukraine itself in ancient times existed, so its history


President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko called "Russian Truth" - the first set of laws of Kievan Rus - "one of the oldest documents of justice in Ukraine" and said that it "has no relation" to Russia.

Poroshenko: the Code of laws of Kievan Rus has no relation to Russia


"Russian Pravda" to Russia has nothing to do, because Russia did not exist then
- Poroshenko said, the performance of which was broadcast on Ukrainian television.

This speech Poroshenko commented on the Russian senator Alexei Pushkov, who called the statement of the President of Ukraine that the law set "Russian Truth" has no relation to Russia, a new attempt by Kiev to ascribe to itself a great history.

If, according to Poroshenko, the “Russkaya Pravda” law has nothing to do with Russia, then Ukraine, which did not exist until the 20th century, is even more so. A new attempt by Kiev to ascribe a great history to Ukraine. But pearl №1 - "Old Ukrainian princes." Poroshenko knows only about their existence
- wrote Pushkov on Twitter.

"Russian Truth" is a monument to the legislation of the XI-XII centuries, it is considered the earliest of the remaining code of legal norms of early medieval Russia.
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  1. 210ox
    210ox 1 December 2017 18: 29 New
    19
    "Cardinal Roshen'e with his retinue" is not related to Kievan Rus .. From the word AT ALL ..
    1. Going
      Going 1 December 2017 18: 33 New
      10
      He determines everything according to his current location.
      1. Monos
        Monos 1 December 2017 19: 08 New
        35
        because Russia did not exist then

        Both on! belay And who then hired Polovtsy, Batu, dances, Ottomans, Charles XII, Napoleon? Where did the Cossacks ask them to take? Where did Ilya Muromets go to Kiev from? And with whom did Hanseatic merchants trade? recourse
        Petruha on Friday was enough.
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 1 December 2017 19: 23 New
          +7
          Quote: Monos
          because Russia did not exist then

          Both on! belay And who then hired Polovtsy, Batu, dances, Ottomans, Charles XII, Napoleon? Where did the Cossacks ask them to take? Where did Ilya Muromets go to Kiev from? And with whom did Hanseatic merchants trade? recourse

          You still ask - where did Prince Oleg and Prince Vladimir come from to Kiev? And how did they sit on the princely throne in Kiev. smile
          1. hrych
            hrych 1 December 2017 19: 42 New
            +7
            Quote: Alexey RA
            where Prince Oleg and Prince Vladimir came to Kiev

            Really from Zhmerynka? wassat
            1. Alexey RA
              Alexey RA 1 December 2017 20: 07 New
              +7
              That neither, s Berdicheva. laughing
              1. hrych
                hrych 1 December 2017 20: 13 New
                +2
                Quote: Alexey RA
                That neither, s Berdicheva.

                1. Going
                  Going 1 December 2017 21: 58 New
                  +8
                  And what bothers them so much, we will definitely provide them with fat.
                  1. hrych
                    hrych 1 December 2017 22: 11 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Going
                    And what bothers them so much, we will definitely provide them with fat

                    There is such a vegetable of the cabbage family - horseradish is called. It’s better for them, and not fat, then we’ll give them to the Arabs, since we don’t bite ourselves wassat
                    1. Going
                      Going 1 December 2017 22: 15 New
                      +8
                      I'm sorry, who will we give the lard to?
                      1. krot
                        krot 2 December 2017 12: 29 New
                        -1
                        By his statement, Poroshenko wants to incite ethnic hatred ..
                      2. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 2 December 2017 13: 55 New
                        +2
                        Ha! Poroshenko thinks that when all this senile Khuntyashno-Kiev turmoil in Ukraine ends, Poroshenko and Co. will, in extreme cases, end up in a madhouse! Not a fig like that!
                        Poroshenko and Co. hang on the gallows where the Maidan happened - in the center of Kiev itself! Already with this, the people of Ukraine will try not to delay for a long time!
          2. wasjasibirjac
            wasjasibirjac 2 December 2017 12: 48 New
            0
            Quote: Alexey RA
            You still ask - where did Prince Oleg and Prince Vladimir come from to Kiev? And how did they sit on the princely throne in Kiev. smile

            They are invaders - one (Vladimir) from Novgorod came and captured the Kiev table. the second self-proclaimed himself the prince of Kiev. both poor Ukrainians were offended, although before those were still 1000 years old. hi yes
        2. 210ox
          210ox 1 December 2017 19: 32 New
          +2
          This is not interesting for him. The main thing is that at that time the inhabitants of those places (around Kiev) had nothing at all ... "Cossacks" were banditry, robbing Poles and Crimean Tatars ... Neither the prince nor the ide ... What law. We lived under. crying
          Quote: Monos
          because Russia did not exist then

          Both on! belay And who then hired Polovtsy, Batu, dances, Ottomans, Charles XII, Napoleon? Where did the Cossacks ask them to take? Where did Ilya Muromets go to Kiev from? And with whom did Hanseatic merchants trade? recourse
          Petruha on Friday was enough.
        3. Warrior-80
          Warrior-80 1 December 2017 22: 52 New
          +5
          Sorry to correct but Kiev was not a Hanseatic League member, Novgorod was a part. From the beginning of the 12th century, Kiev lost its leading role in Russia, the centers were Vladimir, Novgorod, Pskov, and these cities did not submit to the horde, unlike Kiev
        4. poquello
          poquello 1 December 2017 23: 18 New
          +2
          Quote: Monos
          who then horseradish Polovtsy

          like who, coupe
        5. Yuriy71
          Yuriy71 1 December 2017 23: 20 New
          +2
          They are so great - these kings and emperors, that their names "in vain" cannot be pronounced)))
        6. Slovak
          Slovak 2 December 2017 15: 05 New
          0
          What for? Petya decided everything, his historians write, absorb.
      2. passerby
        passerby 2 December 2017 05: 37 New
        +6
        Quote: Going
        He determines everything according to his current location.

        Then a reasonable question arises, what relation does “Russian Pravda” have to Ukrainians, although it follows from the title of the document that it has a relation to Russians, but not to Ukrainians, but if it still relates to those who live in Ukraine, then why are they now calling themselves Ukrainians, not Russian?
    2. Reserve officer
      Reserve officer 1 December 2017 18: 35 New
      +4
      Quote: 210ox
      "Cardinal Roshen'e with his retinue" is not related to Kievan Rus .. From the word AT ALL ..


      Like Ukraine. She was not there. The outskirts were. But Ukraine was not. Absolutely.
      1. bouncyhunter
        bouncyhunter 1 December 2017 18: 39 New
        +8
        Well, what do you want from a drunken drunk? Anyone chasing crocodiles from under a table, I Pedro shines with knowledge in History. wassat
        1. Reserve officer
          Reserve officer 1 December 2017 18: 44 New
          +6
          Hello Pasha. The photo shows a philosopher. Something like "Life, it is like a glass. Multifaceted."
          1. bouncyhunter
            bouncyhunter 1 December 2017 18: 48 New
            +7
            Judging by the absent gaze, he is trying to understand: is the glass half empty or full? lol
            1. tol100v
              tol100v 1 December 2017 19: 13 New
              +1
              Quote: bouncyhunter
              : Is the glass half empty or full?

              He should cooperate with Ilon Mask on the joint use of a gas pipe with vacuum and dill rocket technology with pea traction!
              1. bouncyhunter
                bouncyhunter 1 December 2017 19: 18 New
                +1
                Musk doesn’t look like not far off to get in touch with the Reichschocolattenführer: the petunia either steals everything or drinks it. wassat
            2. Monos
              Monos 1 December 2017 19: 26 New
              +4
              Good Friday night, Pasha! hi drinks
              Quote: bouncyhunter
              Judging by the absent gaze, he is trying to understand: is the glass half empty or full? lol

              He cannot understand this. He has an existential crisis. For him, this is nothing and, at the same time, everything. Drinking half a glass is nothing for him (you won’t even see the invasion of Russian troops), but take his glass and that's it, the meaning of existence is lost.
              So let’s drink for him to quickly throw back his hooves, but with a glass in his hand!
              1. bouncyhunter
                bouncyhunter 1 December 2017 19: 29 New
                +3
                And you with Friday, Victor! hi
                Quote: Monos
                So let’s drink for him to quickly throw back his hooves, but with a glass in his hand!

                Such a toast is a sin even for teetotalers and ulcers, and even more so for us! drinks
                1. Going
                  Going 1 December 2017 21: 59 New
                  +8
                  People, we laugh and this is normal, but Petya is ... worried.
                  1. Monos
                    Monos 1 December 2017 23: 10 New
                    +3
                    Quote: Going
                    People, we laugh and this is normal, but Petya is ... worried.

                    Petya is no longer worried. laughing He rolled and he was well-oh-oh.
          2. gm9019
            gm9019 2 December 2017 00: 00 New
            +1
            Quote: Reserve officer
            "Life, it's like a glass. Multifaceted."

            ..for someone it's half full, and for someone it's half empty! lol
        2. 210ox
          210ox 1 December 2017 18: 54 New
          +1
          pasha hi I want an ACTION from him! What do you think? Sober up? It won’t help. Just shoot yourself! Well, or at least take the poison. Like Goering.
          Quote: bouncyhunter
          Well, what do you want from a drunken drunk? Anyone chasing crocodiles from under a table, I Pedro shines with knowledge in History. wassat
          1. bouncyhunter
            bouncyhunter 1 December 2017 19: 03 New
            +2
            Hello Dima ! hi I am also waiting for such an act. But not only from him, but from the whole Ukroreichstag and their curators beyond the puddle. am
        3. vovanpain
          vovanpain 1 December 2017 19: 06 New
          +7
          Quote: bouncyhunter
          I Pedro here shines with knowledge in History.

          Yes Bratko, well, it’s so brilliant, so it’s brilliant, fellow
          1. bouncyhunter
            bouncyhunter 1 December 2017 19: 10 New
            +3
            Hey bro ! hi drinks When this torso appears on the TV screen, I peer at what is on his lapel of his jacket. But I still don’t see the sign “Master of Sports of the International Class in Literball” there. wassat
            1. vovanpain
              vovanpain 1 December 2017 19: 23 New
              +6
              Quote: bouncyhunter
              But I still don’t see the sign “Master of Sports of the International Class in Literball” there.

              Yes, this sign is drunk for a long time laughing look carefully why Petyune jacket. repeat
              1. bouncyhunter
                bouncyhunter 1 December 2017 19: 30 New
                +2
                But the bulldos, I traded everything for the vodka ... crying
        4. siberalt
          siberalt 1 December 2017 20: 31 New
          +3
          The secret of the crumpled jacket of the President of Ukraine.
      2. tol100v
        tol100v 1 December 2017 18: 44 New
        +3
        Quote: Reserve officer
        Like Ukraine. She was not there. The outskirts were. But Ukraine was not. Absolutely.

        And Waltzman was not at all. And soon will not be ALL!
        1. Pirogov
          Pirogov 1 December 2017 18: 58 New
          +1
          Quote: Tol100v
          And Waltzman was not at all. And soon will not be ALL!

          You only promise .................
          1. tol100v
            tol100v 1 December 2017 19: 16 New
            +1
            Quote: Pirogov
            You only promise .................

            He promised himself 33 deaths!
    3. moskowit
      moskowit 1 December 2017 20: 59 New
      +3
      In 1960, the great film director S. Bondarchuk in the film "Seryozha" uttered the indisputable truth through the mouth of a child ...
    4. zloybond
      zloybond 1 December 2017 21: 21 New
      0
      I don’t give a damn about how much he spun there ... for a long time already the 21st century ... and this is about the present ....
  2. Azazelo
    Azazelo 1 December 2017 18: 30 New
    +1
    I have a feeling that Poroshenko’s sane phrases are being posted on the topvar ... I mean meaningless but articulate bullshit. Perhaps the rest is simply impossible to post.
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  3. Going
    Going 1 December 2017 18: 30 New
    +9
    "Russian Truth" is a monument to the legislation of the XI-XII centuries, it is considered the earliest of the remaining code of legal norms of early medieval Russia.


    What to argue in what language it is written? lol
    1. Anarchist
      Anarchist 1 December 2017 18: 37 New
      11
      In Old Slavonic, probably what
      The concept of `` Russian language '' appeared later ...
      1. 1331M
        1331M 1 December 2017 18: 41 New
        +3
        And about all this Waltzman argues ....?
      2. siberalt
        siberalt 1 December 2017 20: 35 New
        +4
        The secret of Minsk 2.
        Well, Petya, people are waiting for you. Until you sign, I’ll not pour it. lol
        1. Gato
          Gato 1 December 2017 22: 24 New
          +2
          Treaty with Byzantium of 912: "We are from the Russian clan - Carla, Inegeld, Farlaf, Veremud, Rulav, Guda, Ruald, Karn, Frelava, Ruar, Aktev, Truan, Lidul, Fost, Stemid - sent from Oleg, the Grand Duke of Russia, and from all who are under his hand, the bright and great princes, and his great boyars "(C) wassat Where, bljad, valtsmany, ohrymenki and ivanov?
          No need to rewrite history. It was as it was, until the Ukrainians invent a time machine - it will remain so.
      3. venaya
        venaya 2 December 2017 03: 15 New
        +1
        Quote: Going
        "Russian truth" is a monument of law XI-XII centuries, is considered the earliest surviving code of legal norms of early medieval Russia.

        What to argue in what language it is written? lol

        Quote: Anarchist
        In Old Slavonic, probably what
        The concept of `` Russian language '' appeared later ...

        Here are those on belay . This is what happens: the Americans live in America, the Japanese live in Japan, and it turns out that in Holy Russia it was not the Russians who lived, but at that time the "Slavs" who had not yet been invented. And where did you manage to find a certain country or territory under the name "Slavs", please show it on the map, on any! In fact, the term "Slavs" appears only in the XNUMXth century, not earlier, it has not been found before, by the way it has a religious color and not ethnic color. and please do not confuse the ancient term Slovenia, and it has a more linguistic meaning than ethnic (Russian words). So in those centuries, XI - XII did not have time to rename the Rus into "Slavs", and this term is clearly foreign, of Latin origin, comes from their term "skloven" = "slaves" - in their own way. Foreign terminology was imposed on us here, there is no steamboat from it. Everything that can and cannot be confused for more fog, to allegorically call us slaves, in their Latin "hair dryer."
    2. pvv113
      pvv113 1 December 2017 18: 40 New
      +6
      Quote: Going
      What to argue in what language it is written?

      1. Going
        Going 1 December 2017 21: 10 New
        +7
        Vladimir, so what language?
        1. pvv113
          pvv113 1 December 2017 21: 17 New
          +3
          Look in the title - the word is Russian through two "s". In Ukraine, they write through one wink
          1. Going
            Going 1 December 2017 21: 34 New
            +8
            Vladimir, I have no doubt and the letters do not match and the words are more ancient - Greek, this is the basis of the Russian language.
            1. pvv113
              pvv113 1 December 2017 21: 54 New
              +4
              Even Wikipedia, which does not suffer from love for Russia, even says:
              Original language Old Russian
              1. Going
                Going 1 December 2017 22: 01 New
                +7
                I would say that there is more of ancient Greek, which was the basis of our language.
                1. pvv113
                  pvv113 1 December 2017 22: 06 New
                  +4
                  I read another - Russian is very close to Sanskrit
                  1. Going
                    Going 1 December 2017 22: 16 New
                    +7
                    Quote: pvv113
                    I read another - Russian is very close to Sanskrit


                    There are many opinions, but the truth is one ...
                    1. pvv113
                      pvv113 1 December 2017 22: 54 New
                      +1
                      The truth is around, as Agent Mulder said wink
                  2. venaya
                    venaya 2 December 2017 04: 02 New
                    +2
                    Quote: pvv113
                    - Russian is very close to Sanskrit

                    There are only 54% matches for the root words, because "sacred writing" = "san-skrit" English. -San-skrit) is a southern dialect of Old Russian, more ancient writing patterns have been found, in the area of ​​Tripoli Culture and Vinca Culture, and there are even more coincidences and forms of writing older, up to 7 thousand years, possibly more .
                2. the lord
                  the lord 2 December 2017 02: 33 New
                  0
                  the ancient Greek alphabet was the basis of the Russian alphabet, and to refute the same connection between languages, try to read the ancient Greek authors in the original
                  1. venaya
                    venaya 2 December 2017 03: 22 New
                    +1
                    Quote: znavel
                    the ancient Greek alphabet was the basis of the Russian alphabet, and to refute the same connection between languages, try to read the ancient Greek authors in the original

                    where you managed to find it "ancient greek"Originals? Let me remind you: the country of Greece arose only in the XNUMXth century! Do you have other data? By the way, and who got their own alphabet mk called" Greeks ", not from the pelazgv, residents of the sun-scorched" Pale Mill "like now they say Palestine? Try a closer look at this issue, then you will discover a lot of new and interesting things.
                    1. the lord
                      the lord 2 December 2017 21: 18 New
                      0
                      Ohhhhh, hfantazer drew, we studied these tales about the burning camp. Under the scorched vodyaru this camp was invented. The only truth in this direction is that both Hellenes and Slavs are related. albeit rather distant. But alas, for you. storyteller, those days bygone ages ago.
                      And you can see ancient Greek originals in museums and read reprinted on modern media even in the internet
                      1. venaya
                        venaya 2 December 2017 23: 28 New
                        +1
                        Quote: znavel
                        you can see ancient Greek originals in museums

                        And why are the originals of the Old Russian language still not represented in museums? Why is such an injustice - can anyone explain this? As for the time of formation as the oldest forms of writing of the Old Russian language and obviously, from the point of view of the science of linguistics, a younger and still clearly age-undeveloped language called "Greek", no other opinions are heard from experts so far. For example, the "Greek language" has no followers at all, while the Old Russian language is the basis of almost all the languages ​​of the World. Maybe you still couldn’t hear about it, so turn to the experts of the issue, and not to the paid crooks. I personally am not ashamed to give links. And who specifically supports your version? Do such authorities exist, or is it a secret?
                    2. the lord
                      the lord 3 December 2017 18: 24 New
                      0
                      There are no Old Russian writers since in the 9th century we lost a lot to Byzantium - we were baptized and cleaned up all the information about history - this is true, but we, like the Greeks, didn’t become an ancestor for all European languages, many of them trace their history from Latin. The Greeks, like us, did not exclusively plant their own culture, but much was allowed from the local. But the Romans did more practical
                      As for the one who supports my version, there are a great many of them, unlike your pompous opinion. You are here about links bazaar that you can present. I agree, some references to a certain rubbish are quite possible, however, the price is cheap. What did you rumble from under your armpit about the camp?)))))
                3. venaya
                  venaya 2 December 2017 03: 55 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Going
                  I would say that there is more of ancient Greek, which was the basis of our language.

                  In vain you say so. Nowadays, many linguists consider the basis of all languages ​​to be precisely the very ancient Russian language, that is too much evidence, and it is many years old, it’s even scary to call numbers. But Greek or "ancient Greek" are considered by linguists to be the youngest languages ​​themselves, which have not even really been formed yet. Even today's Greek linguists recognize that it is Russian that is the basis of the Greek language, I would rather say ancient Russian. The fact that you are now announcing is already a thing of the past, the science of linguistics goes and develops by leaps and bounds today, the canons of medieval obscurantism "go into oblivion." It is worth bearing this in mind. Maybe you read about this Alexander Dragunkin, if still pres. AN RI A.S. Shishkov is not available.
    3. tol100v
      tol100v 1 December 2017 18: 47 New
      +3
      Quote: Going
      , is considered the earliest surviving code of legal norms of early medieval Russia.

      Russia! There is no word about dill. She was absent for a good reason - she was digging the Black Sea!
      1. Going
        Going 1 December 2017 21: 35 New
        +8
        No, they have not all moved from Venus yet, they were waiting for the sea to be dug up.
  4. Egorovich
    Egorovich 1 December 2017 18: 37 New
    +3
    Correct words: "A people who have no past will have no future." Hohland, where are you going? Precisely to the abyss.
    1. Going
      Going 1 December 2017 21: 36 New
      +8
      Quote: Egorovich
      Correct words: "A people who have no past will have no future." Hohland, where are you going? Precisely to the abyss.

      They walk past.
      1. Gato
        Gato 1 December 2017 22: 18 New
        0
        That is yes. In addition to the abyss, there is also a big F
        1. Going
          Going 1 December 2017 22: 24 New
          +8
          They themselves chose this path.
      2. Egorovich
        Egorovich 1 December 2017 22: 19 New
        +2
        Ukrainians came to fascism in their development. And even more so they came voluntarily. But fascism is an abyss, so they will not pass by.
        1. Going
          Going 1 December 2017 22: 25 New
          +9
          Yes, not ourselves, they helped and the grain fell on fertile soil.
          1. Egorovich
            Egorovich 1 December 2017 22: 30 New
            +2
            So in the nineties we were also led to a similar scenario, but broke off.
            1. Going
              Going 1 December 2017 22: 36 New
              +9
              And thank God that we understood this in time.
              1. Egorovich
                Egorovich 1 December 2017 22: 40 New
                +1
                Because we remember our past very well.
        2. Gato
          Gato 1 December 2017 22: 37 New
          +2
          Quote: Egorovich
          Ukrainians came to fascism in their development

          Rather, to stupid Nazism in degradation. The usual way of Seluk from a pigsty to a latrine.
          1. Evgeniy667b
            Evgeniy667b 3 December 2017 17: 33 New
            +1
            we remember, but Kolenka from Novy Urengoy? Hesitating. And how many are there now?
  5. Herculesic
    Herculesic 1 December 2017 18: 39 New
    +4
    It is necessary to firmly restore history once and for all, simply by removing the quasi-state from Ukraine by the method of partition!
    1. Going
      Going 1 December 2017 21: 37 New
      +7
      Nobody has managed to achieve this yet; each ruler rewrote it for himself.
    2. Gato
      Gato 1 December 2017 22: 34 New
      0
      "Hard to restore history"! As said! Where are the backups, do not tell me?
  6. Govorun
    Govorun 1 December 2017 18: 40 New
    +3
    Poroshenko: the Code of laws of Kievan Rus has no relation to Russia
    Singing, well, maybe enough already, otherwise the squirrels from you shy away already ...
    1. tol100v
      tol100v 1 December 2017 18: 51 New
      +1
      Quote: Govorun
      Singing, well, maybe enough already, otherwise the squirrels from you shy away already ...

      Western squirrels had already shied away and had stopped dragging bags with green peanuts!
      1. Going
        Going 1 December 2017 21: 37 New
        +8
        Quote: Govorun
        Poroshenko: the Code of laws of Kievan Rus has no relation to Russia
        Singing, well, maybe enough already, otherwise the squirrels from you shy away already ...


        Squirrels have already created a union.
        1. Gato
          Gato 1 December 2017 22: 15 New
          +2
          Not a union, but a party. That's what it is called - protein ... pah, block of Peter the Powder
          1. Going
            Going 1 December 2017 22: 26 New
            +9
            Here, you immediately give out all the secrets.
            1. Gato
              Gato 1 December 2017 22: 31 New
              0
              Do not hand over to NABU? Thank you in advance... drinks
  7. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 1 December 2017 18: 46 New
    +1
    And that Poroshenko’s parents were ancient Ukrainians who dug up the Black Sea and had nothing to do with Russi. If you delve into the origin of his ancestors, you can find someone born in Russia. He always reproduces such nonsense after a liter of vodka, and he can always sit on an enema from vodka.
    1. Going
      Going 1 December 2017 21: 39 New
      +8
      He is afraid that sooner or later it will become known that he speaks Russian at home.
  8. captain
    captain 1 December 2017 18: 48 New
    0
    Gentlemen commenting, especially under the red flag. Well, not Poroshenko (with all my negative attitude towards the descendant of a Romanian citizen of Jewish origin), gave the nationalists of the then Ukraine the whole Southeast of modern Ukraine. Your god, comrade Lenin, presented it with the Russian people. True, he forgot to ask people., But this is Bolshevik correct; why ask the illiterate. Russian man for the Bolsheviks, was a consumable.
    1. tezey
      tezey 1 December 2017 23: 29 New
      +3
      Mr. captain it is not clear what the Bolsheviks have to do with the history of medieval Russia and the clumsy attempt by the poorly educated President of Ukraine to interpret it. Now about the consumables, t, e, Russian men. Indeed, for the most part they were illiterate and it was the merit of the captains, staff captains and others who had power in the Russian Empire, and the Bolsheviks eliminated illiteracy as soon as possible. Maybe read about it? And it was precisely those very power people in tsarist Russia who considered the Russian peasant a consumable, for which they paid in full. This most consumable material during the Civil War made captains, staff captains, landowners and nobles consumables in their literal sense. You see why this happened. These men did not want to be consumables anymore.
    2. the lord
      the lord 2 December 2017 02: 40 New
      +1
      If the USSR and gave. then part of the USSR. When leaving the USSR, one could easily take everything back. Read the relevant 1990 law. Only all captains, cornets and second lieutenants could not wait to start robbing their people again. therefore, they decided not to bother with belonging to a particular region or region; they made internal administrative borders state. And who after that?
  9. Simon
    Simon 1 December 2017 18: 48 New
    0
    It’s interesting, and then Ukraine, what basis does “Russian truth” have for the code of laws ?! After all, there is no mention of Ukrainian truth anywhere. fool
  10. Illegal-M
    Illegal-M 1 December 2017 18: 50 New
    +3
    P. Poroshenko and K, your masters demand to fight, not talk ...!
    The order to bomb Donbass in a massive way .. The junta is not fulfilling and they will not see loans!
    I’ve caught up with the army at the borders, well, let Petro give the order and you will be swept away and the wave will go further ..
    Do you smell Waltzman? Let's not be afraid, brandy slap and .... soldier
  11. Alexander Petrov1
    Alexander Petrov1 1 December 2017 19: 09 New
    +1
    Obviously, the nuthouse is crying for him !?
    1. Going
      Going 1 December 2017 21: 40 New
      +7
      He’s been crying for a long time.
  12. Simon
    Simon 1 December 2017 19: 11 New
    +1
    Quote: Going
    He determines everything according to his current location.

    In my opinion, he determines for himself how to fill his pockets more quickly and do not give a damn about his people, because soon he will have to dump them. yes
    1. Going
      Going 1 December 2017 21: 41 New
      +7
      This is on his machine, and politics requires tension, so he is demagnetized.
  13. Simon
    Simon 1 December 2017 19: 12 New
    0
    Quote: Egorovich
    Correct words: "A people who have no past will have no future." Hohland, where are you going? Precisely to the abyss.

    She already looks like in the abyss! belay
  14. demo
    demo 1 December 2017 19: 15 New
    +2
    "Russian Pravda" to Russia has nothing to do, because Russia did not exist then
    - Poroshenko said, the performance of which was broadcast on Ukrainian television.

    And what? The alcoholic is right. There was no Russia. Was Russia. Kievan Rus.
    From which later the Moscow principality and the Moscow kingdom were formed. And then Russia. Etc.

    In general, comment on the ravings of the drunk from the country through the Looking Glass is no longer even pulling. Starting to feel sick.
    1. Roma 1977
      Roma 1977 1 December 2017 19: 42 New
      +2
      State "Kievan Rus" never existed. Just Russia was, which in the Greek manner was called "Russia."
      1. Lena Petrova
        Lena Petrova 1 December 2017 20: 31 New
        +1
        But Pete doesn’t care where Prince Oleg came from. Ladoga, Veliky Novgorod, - for him - empty sounds. Well, the prince liked the climate and location of Kiev, moved the capital there. And Vladimir for this fit both Moscow and St. Petersburg. All in due time. Here Kharkov was the capital of the Ukrainian SSR - here is Petina's story where it begins. :))
        1. polpot
          polpot 1 December 2017 21: 28 New
          +2
          The first Russian occupation was then and the prophetic Oleg is an aggressor
          1. Going
            Going 1 December 2017 21: 42 New
            +8
            As an aggressor, he was an avenger.
          2. Gato
            Gato 1 December 2017 22: 13 New
            0
            That yes, Askold and Dir were the very first Russian Omperts, flooded to Constantinople. Sanctions on their heads laughing
      2. tezey
        tezey 1 December 2017 22: 55 New
        0
        All right. Title-Kievan Rus introduced by historians in the 19th century. The medieval state of the Eastern Slavs in the primary sources was called the Russian Land.
    2. Alexander Petrov1
      Alexander Petrov1 1 December 2017 21: 32 New
      +1
      Yes, starting from Old Kiev - we, today's Russians, every patch of our land is shed with the blood of our ancestors, from Karelia to Crimea, so that Great Russia becomes as it is now and so that even Americans and Chinese respect us, not to mention the new Kiev, the new Warsaw , the new Baltic states and the new "united Europe" We will show them "Kuzkin Mother"
      1. Going
        Going 1 December 2017 22: 06 New
        +7
        This then infuriates them, it is not possible to hide.
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  16. Dezinto
    Dezinto 1 December 2017 19: 22 New
    +3
    I don’t even have words here ..... it's normal that the people quarreled headlong .....

    No, well, have you seen? Saw?
    They turn over the monuments and spend money on it, in the richest country, if only the monument stood with its back to Moscow !? Did they jump around? ...

    1. Sofa General
      Sofa General 1 December 2017 19: 37 New
      +7
      and then they will spend some more money to tilt it ... laughing
    2. polpot
      polpot 1 December 2017 21: 27 New
      0
      yaki reasonable people wonder what it gave them
    3. Alexander Petrov1
      Alexander Petrov1 1 December 2017 21: 33 New
      0
      God be their judge!
  17. solzh
    solzh 1 December 2017 19: 23 New
    0
    President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko called "Russian Truth" - the first set of laws of Kievan Rus - "one of the oldest documents of justice in Ukraine" and said that it "has no relation" to Russia.

    Squirrel will soon finish him completely. Poroshenko once again got drunk, a serious occasion, the European Union does not give Ukraine the third tranche and they can lose 600 million euros, that’s nonsense.
  18. Nemesis
    Nemesis 1 December 2017 19: 25 New
    0
    Kievan Rus, Vladimir Rus, Novgorod Rus such phrases do not mean anything, they are just principalities, one of many ... Ukraine is not related to Russia, since in the 13th century Kiev became part of Catholic Poland and even the metropolitan left it forever .. .
    1. Roma 1977
      Roma 1977 1 December 2017 19: 32 New
      +1
      Kiev became part of Poland at the end of the 16th century, and before that it was part of Catholic Lithuania.
      1. Gato
        Gato 1 December 2017 22: 09 New
        0
        Was Lithuania Catholic? belay
        1. Roma 1977
          Roma 1977 4 December 2017 11: 43 New
          0
          Yes. Jagiello officially baptized Lithuania into Catholicism in 1387. After that, the Orthodox became ON people of the second grade, and then the third.
  19. Roma 1977
    Roma 1977 1 December 2017 19: 31 New
    0
    I heard that the current constitution of Russia has little to do with Russia. Unlike Russian Truth.
  20. Sofa General
    Sofa General 1 December 2017 19: 36 New
    +7


    There are stories of one hundred and forty thousand million years ... and the roots of the races on Venus ...
  21. Varyag77
    Varyag77 1 December 2017 19: 36 New
    +1
    Quote: Anarchist
    In Old Slavonic, probably what
    The concept of `` Russian language '' appeared later ...

    But he modestly forgets WHO wrote it. Yaroslav the Wise Prince of NOVGORODSKY, who came later at the Kiev table too. laughing
    1. Roma 1977
      Roma 1977 1 December 2017 19: 44 New
      0
      He does not forget. They simply officially call Russian princes "Old Ukrainian".
  22. Yoshi
    Yoshi 1 December 2017 19: 49 New
    0
    Kiev - Kievan Rus
    Ukraine is not Kievan Rus
    Moscow - Kievan Rus?
    Who he is - everyone understands, but what did he say wrong?
    Or are we considering a situation where two are claiming an “inheritance”?
    1. solzh
      solzh 1 December 2017 22: 46 New
      +1
      Why do you have a question in the expression: "Moscow - Kievan Rus?".
      Moscow was part of Kievan Rus. Subsequently, after the loss of independence by Kiev, Moscow became the legal successor of Kievan Rus. All he said is wrong. He needs to sit at a school desk.
      1. Yoshi
        Yoshi 1 December 2017 23: 07 New
        0
        And what do you say about the Grand Duchy of Lithuania?
        How is the assignee?
        This is me about the "inheritance" section ...
        1. solzh
          solzh 1 December 2017 23: 53 New
          0
          And what about the Grand Duchy of Lithuania? It was not part of Kievan Rus. ON, on the contrary, captured Kiev as a result of the war. And the successor can not be. But Moscow was built and was part of Kievan Rus. In addition, after the capture of Kiev on, the patriarch (I do not remember the name of the head of the Orthodox Church at that time) left for Muscovy, the Rurik dynasty in Kiev ceased to rule, and the Moscow branch of the Rurikovich did not stop for a long time.
          1. Yoshi
            Yoshi 2 December 2017 01: 33 New
            0
            Clear.
            So all the same, the inheritance is divided ...
            So who inherits: the one who took or the one who shouted after?
            Fire me, Your mercy, from further ... I have finished the topic ...
            The empty ...
            1. the lord
              the lord 2 December 2017 02: 47 New
              +1
              It's empty in your head. ON we did OFF and it does not appear in the legal succession. As they were invaders on these lands, they remained until they were driven out.
  23. asiat_61
    asiat_61 1 December 2017 19: 52 New
    0
    You can’t even spread such crap, ravings from Holond have already got everyone.
  24. DEPARTMENT-M27
    DEPARTMENT-M27 1 December 2017 19: 54 New
    +2
    Waltzman in Ukraine acts just like Israel in Syria! Beats from the bastard and balabolit about the terrible Russian threat .. hehe
    1. tracer
      tracer 1 December 2017 21: 47 New
      0
      Wow Vitalik ... Well, thank God And I confess that I’m already worried.
  25. farik68
    farik68 1 December 2017 19: 55 New
    +2
    I wonder what the Jews have to do with this ...?)))))
    1. polpot
      polpot 1 December 2017 21: 25 New
      0
      they taught Ukrainians to salt
  26. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 1 December 2017 20: 00 New
    0
    because Russia did not exist then
    But Ukraine?
  27. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 1 December 2017 20: 02 New
    0
    He has nothing to say about loans?
    The decision to abandon the tranche in the EU is caused by the stabilization of the Ukrainian economy. Today, Ukraine is a highly cultured space power and no longer needs loans.

    For example.
  28. assa67
    assa67 1 December 2017 20: 05 New
    +4
    parsley never ceases to amaze ... it would seem that you can’t think of anything more idiotic ... no, it’s not so! belay ..interesting in his brain would be to examine, to see who lives there in the alcohol-chocolate substance?
    1. polpot
      polpot 1 December 2017 21: 24 New
      0
      Squirrel jumping
  29. ODERVIT
    ODERVIT 1 December 2017 20: 06 New
    +1
    Have hallucinogens gone into use?
    1. polpot
      polpot 1 December 2017 21: 24 New
      0
      bite kosher with matzo
    2. tracer
      tracer 1 December 2017 21: 45 New
      0
      Well what are you ... it's a daily diet. Otherwise, how to live in a parallel reality.
  30. Felix
    Felix 1 December 2017 20: 11 New
    +1
    I will buy coins of Ukraine XVII - XVIII very expensive!
    1. polpot
      polpot 1 December 2017 21: 22 New
      +1
      even centuries of 19 coins you will not find such a story with an ancient power
    2. tezey
      tezey 1 December 2017 22: 50 New
      +2
      Coins are no longer on sale, all sold out the heroes of the ATO. There are medals- "For taking Troy" and the memorable "40000 years of the Ukrainian Empire’s awakening" negotiable price in shekels.
  31. Ural resident
    Ural resident 1 December 2017 20: 24 New
    0
    He himself admitted that Ukraine is part of Russia.
  32. turcom
    turcom 1 December 2017 20: 30 New
    0
    Well then, surely, it relates to the “great ukras” related to the great macaques
  33. Victor-M
    Victor-M 1 December 2017 20: 43 New
    0
    Poroshenko: the Code of laws of Kievan Rus has no relation to Russia

    To Zionist Ukraine all the more.
    1. Alexander Petrov1
      Alexander Petrov1 1 December 2017 21: 19 New
      0
      Delirium tremens -: Listen to white, really hot eh?
  34. polpot
    polpot 1 December 2017 21: 22 New
    0
    This drunkard can already replace Petrosyan and Stepaneko on the nonsense pronounced from the screen
    1. tracer
      tracer 1 December 2017 21: 42 New
      0
      I think a little Petrosyanovsky “stage plastic” would not hurt him. He has already mastered crumpled expensive suits.
  35. hhhhhhh
    hhhhhhh 1 December 2017 21: 27 New
    +2
    The Jew decides for the Slavs what belongs to.
  36. tracer
    tracer 1 December 2017 21: 40 New
    +1
    Here the tribe of Israel will dictate to us Russians who have a "relationship" and who does not. A dream right for all the foxs ..
  37. Gadzilla
    Gadzilla 1 December 2017 21: 53 New
    0
    In how))), but I think all sorts of Potroshenko had nothing to do with the outskirts of Russia
  38. Gato
    Gato 1 December 2017 22: 05 New
    0
    Vodka, by the way, didn’t exist then either ... Well, as a brand request But they drank something, including all sorts of rolls.
  39. Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 1 December 2017 22: 06 New
    +1
    Honestly (to my shame), I don’t even understand what it is all about ...
  40. private person
    private person 1 December 2017 22: 13 New
    +2
    Laughter, laughter, but if you inspire the children at school and they are like a sponge, then in 10 years the "great" European nation of Ukrainians will arise. And then no one will be able to retrain and convince them. Something needs to be done with this.
  41. tezey
    tezey 1 December 2017 22: 32 New
    0
    It has long been clear that the president of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko is in a very bad situation with secondary education, and there is no need to talk about higher education at all. Accordingly, he does not know what logic is. But everything is simple. If the code of medieval laws of the Grand Duke of Kiev Yaroslav Vladimirovich Rurik is called the Russian truth, then he himself is one of those Russians, which sources confirm. Then the question arises. And the ancient Ukrainian princes are who they are. What were their names, where and by whom they ruled. But for the wretched brain, Poroshenko is an impossible, difficult task, as well as stupidly to compare the names-the Russian truth and the people living in the neighboring country-Russians.
  42. Warrior-80
    Warrior-80 1 December 2017 23: 10 New
    0
    I prefer the code of laws of Vladimir Monomakh, the last rational prince of Kiev
  43. Berkut-UA
    Berkut-UA 1 December 2017 23: 18 New
    0
    Russian Truth is the first code of laws of Kievan Rus.
    [ https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D1%83%D1%81%
    D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B2%
    D0% B4% D0% B0]
    Russian truth is written in RUSSIAN.
    And where does the Mova and some Ukrainians who appeared in Yeonets 19 - beginning of the 20th century ...?
    And the former presidents of the so-called Ukraine themselves everywhere declare
    "Ukraine is not Russia"
    And all the Ukrainians are constantly busy with the fact that everyone is forced to speak a mov, although they themselves hardly select words. For example, the same Parashenka - when he forgot that the wallet on the mov is gamanez.
    This is the same if the Bulgarians would say that it is their Roman law and 22 centuries and that it "has nothing to do" with Italy
  44. Whack
    Whack 1 December 2017 23: 31 New
    +1
    Debil bl ...
  45. NordUral
    NordUral 1 December 2017 23: 59 New
    0
    With patients on the head to discuss - do not respect yourself.
  46. Russian bear
    Russian bear 2 December 2017 00: 08 New
    0
    why are we surprised Bukhara, Petya, under the “partner” viskar, and not such a voice. as they say, who treats a girl to dancing her ...
  47. LeonidL
    LeonidL 2 December 2017 03: 48 New
    0
    Chocolate dreamer Petyunchik noted in the field of history, which versatile potsan, however.
  48. Dimmih
    Dimmih 2 December 2017 04: 23 New
    +1
    Show me the coin of Ukraine issued before 1991. from R.Kh. and I will believe in the ancient Ukrainian princes and Palestine in Poltava
  49. Stegosaurus Brontosaurus
    Stegosaurus Brontosaurus 2 December 2017 06: 53 New
    0
    Quote: Monos
    Where did Ilya Muromets go to Kiev from?


    It is dangerous to recall Ilya Muromets in the context of "Ukrainian glory." They will immediately roll out a couple of epics:
    ... The dark woods all bowed to the earth. His good horse and heroic, But he stumbles on the baskets. And how old-from Cossack da Ilya Muromets He takes a silk whip in a white hand ...
  50. geoan
    geoan 2 December 2017 08: 13 New
    0
    there’s nothing even to write about it without appropriate words ... and since I was recently banned for the corresponding words, only dots remained in the arsenal: ... ... ... ... ... ... .. . ... ... ... ... ... and so on ...