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Nazarbayev: With the transition to Latin, Kazakhstan will enter the developing information world

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President of the Republic of Kazakhstan Nursultan Nazarbayev does not cease to amaze with his arguments about the translation of the Kazakh language from Cyrillic to Latin. According to Nazarbayev, the transition to Latin will allow Kazakhstan to enter "the developing information world." TASS cites a statement by a Kazakhstani political leader made during the 100 New Faces of Kazakhstan forum:
In connection with the Latin alphabet, we all enter into a common developing information world, the Internet language, the language of science and culture. We are already moving, I issued a decree on this alphabet.



According to Nazarbayev, today about 70% of all information about science and culture is in English.

Nursultan Nazarbayev went on to play the role of captain-obvious:
English, he is in Latin, as is known.


... and continued:
We announced that we have trilingualism - by the year 2020, who will start from the first class, will already finish school knowing the English language, that is, he will already be fluent in Latin.


At the same time, the President of Kazakhstan once again decided to ignore the numerous proposals of public organizations on the need to bring the issue of changing the alphabet used in the Kazakh language to a nationwide referendum.

Nazarbayev: With the transition to Latin, Kazakhstan will enter the developing information world


Also, the Kazakh president did not clarify what exactly is the connection of the translation of the alphabet into the Latin alphabet with the entry into the “new information world”. After all, the use of some letters, for example, the English alphabet does not mean at all 100-percentage knowledge of the English language and complete immersion in world culture. To be part of the new information world, you need not to change the alphabets, but to create your own in-demand product. And this product can be created on the basis of using at least Cyrillic, even though hieroglyphs - this does not fundamentally change its relevance.

But Nazarbayev seems to be entering Kazakhstan. history also as a language reformer - “for centuries”. Will citizens say thanks? - the question is open, as an open question - and, besides the “alphabetic” ones, in Kazakhstan are all problems solved exactly?
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  1. _Jack_
    _Jack_ 1 December 2017 15: 13 New
    17
    In connection with the Latin alphabet, we are all entering the common developing information world, the language of the Internet, the language of science and culture.

    That damn thing, but we do not enter, then, in this magical world.
    1. Zibelew
      Zibelew 1 December 2017 15: 15 New
      48
      Well, koumiss to help them. Cyrillic is a font of the Russian language, our tradition and our culture. The rest are free. They can go even to hieroglyphs. What difference does it make to us with what characters the Kazakhs will write their words, we will not read them anyway. And why it is not clear to them THE WHOLE WORLD will be revealed to them, they switched to the Latin alphabet, and not to English. But nobody will learn the Kazakh language except the Kazakhstan people of their own free will and in their right mind.
      1. Vita vko
        Vita vko 1 December 2017 15: 22 New
        +6
        Quote: Zibelew
        They can go even to hieroglyphs.

        Kazakhs are simply tired of making stickers on a standard keyboard.
        1. Thrall
          Thrall 1 December 2017 15: 25 New
          33
          I suggest that Kazakhs switch to binary code in general smile
          1. Going
            Going 1 December 2017 15: 35 New
            18
            Another account to translate into Roman numerals.
            1. Hammerlock
              Hammerlock 1 December 2017 17: 21 New
              +1
              Well you are a beast !!! even no words like that .... ???
          2. alekc73
            alekc73 1 December 2017 16: 11 New
            17
            NOT funny. The Kazakhs do not want to have anything in common with Russia. Here and change the font. It will not work to be independent, they will fall under China.
            1. pvv113
              pvv113 1 December 2017 16: 25 New
              +9
              In this case, it is not the Latin alphabet that needs to be moved, but the characters to learn to write wink
              1. Going
                Going 1 December 2017 16: 33 New
                10
                Quote: alekc73
                NOT funny. The Kazakhs do not want to have anything in common with Russia. Here and change the font. It will not work to be independent, they will fall under China.


                It’s clear that there’s nothing funny, but what are we bothering with? if the Cyrillic alphabet - so the flag in their hands.
                1. evsyukov_a
                  evsyukov_a 1 December 2017 17: 33 New
                  16
                  There are no more implacable enemies than former friends. Especially if you have done too much for them.
                  1. Going
                    Going 1 December 2017 17: 41 New
                    13
                    Yes, you are right and we are now observing this.
                  2. volot-voin
                    volot-voin 1 December 2017 18: 22 New
                    +2
                    Quote: evsyukov_a
                    There are no more implacable enemies than former friends. Especially if you have done too much for them.

                    Yeah, he lent and forgiven constantly ... You can’t give Russia a good one, but they will ask for it back, you will suck your enemies.
              2. aleks_29296
                aleks_29296 1 December 2017 16: 45 New
                17
                I would not boil about it at all. It’s time to get used to it long ago that all these “fraternal peoples” are by no means fraternal, and that Big Brother is needed only when needed. And when he is not needed, he can be poured with slops, his interests can be violated. Tsar Alexander was right.
                1. alexhol
                  alexhol 1 December 2017 17: 36 New
                  -1
                  "Baby, what about me? I'm better than a dog!" yes
                  1. aleks_29296
                    aleks_29296 1 December 2017 20: 11 New
                    +1
                    I don’t know, a moot point.
            2. Going
              Going 1 December 2017 16: 35 New
              +8
              Quote: pvv113
              In this case, it is not the Latin alphabet that needs to be moved, but the characters to learn to write wink


              Vladimir, I understand the Kazakhs, they want something of their own, but they will get a dependency on which they will then ask again.
              1. pvv113
                pvv113 1 December 2017 16: 44 New
                +5
                So what did the Kazakhs find in their Latin alphabet?
                1. Going
                  Going 1 December 2017 16: 48 New
                  11
                  Nothing, just fuss in the dark, the state is 25 years old.
                  1. Paranoid50
                    Paranoid50 1 December 2017 20: 55 New
                    +5
                    Quote: Going
                    only flicker in the dark, the state is 25 years old.

                    By the standards of history, an embryo, to say nothing of an earlier stage ... yes Well, they won’t read about it there, because BO on the territory of Kazakhstan was banned. Kasim appeared just now (somehow broke), and he told. The reason for the ban is inciting something there, yeah. That's what I look - Kazakh flags have disappeared from the site.
                    1. Going
                      Going 1 December 2017 20: 58 New
                      +9
                      It is true that V.O. banned in Kazakhstan? and who oppressed them and in what?
                      1. Paranoid50
                        Paranoid50 1 December 2017 21: 11 New
                        +6
                        Quote: Going
                        it is true that V.O. banned in Kazakhstan?

                        Duc, yesterday or the day before, "ran in" to Kasym. He writes that yes, they blocked it. He got access through some of his channels for a while, and read the news on the run. The ban is motivated by the fact that VO has a lot of negative things about Kazakhstan, both in articles and in comments. "Sew" inciting ethnic hatred. In how ... Oh, Kazakhs, it’s easier to be.
                      2. odometer
                        odometer 2 December 2017 06: 20 New
                        0
                        Not true. There is no blocking.
                      3. NikolaiN
                        NikolaiN 2 December 2017 10: 22 New
                        +1
                        Yes, our site is blocked. I go through the TOP-browser ...
                        I don’t know the reasons ... Ours has the habit of blocking websites by an IP address, and since several sites can sit on one IP, they also block those for which there is no court decision.
                    2. Going
                      Going 1 December 2017 21: 30 New
                      +8
                      Quote: Paranoid50
                      ["Sew" inciting ethnic hatred. In how ... Oh, Kazakhs, it’s easier to be.

                      Dumb question, but what?
                      1. IL-18
                        IL-18 1 December 2017 21: 58 New
                        +3
                        EKLMN! Swamps are also offline! When I was under an old nickname, I sometimes discussed with him. It was always interesting. I look, I’ve disappeared.
                        Even in Ukraine, VO does not block!
                      2. Paranoid50
                        Paranoid50 1 December 2017 22: 03 New
                        +2
                        Quote: Going
                        and in what?

                        Ha, yes, they would have forbidden, as here, in VO, sneezing their own government. However, publicity and pluralism of opinions. yes Or do they want VO to go to the Latin alphabet ... request And, by the way, it became very interesting: is the "censor" in Kazakhstan banned or in access?
                    3. Going
                      Going 1 December 2017 22: 13 New
                      +8
                      Quote: IL-18
                      EKLMN! Swamps are also offline! When I was under an old nickname, I sometimes discussed with him. It was always interesting. I look, I’ve disappeared.
                      Even in Ukraine, VO does not block!


                      It’s a pity that we will not help.
                      1. Paranoid50
                        Paranoid50 1 December 2017 22: 21 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Going
                        we will not help you.

                        Yes, situevina from the "help yourself" series. Although, there is an option: starting tomorrow, all VO start to repent and sing laudatory odes in honor of Kazakhstana and Nazarbaeva Nursultana Abishevicha (here, I already took the first step laughing ) You look, and break through the blockade.yes
                2. evsyukov_a
                  evsyukov_a 1 December 2017 17: 38 New
                  10
                  Yes, not in Latin. This desire to show the "civilized world" that they are not us. Just in case.
                  1. pvv113
                    pvv113 1 December 2017 17: 40 New
                    +6
                    Ukraine has already shown fool
                    1. Going
                      Going 1 December 2017 17: 46 New
                      12
                      Well, they do not want to learn from the mistakes of others, they will be on their own.
                      1. pvv113
                        pvv113 1 December 2017 17: 55 New
                        +4
                        Maybe that’s better.
                    2. Going
                      Going 1 December 2017 18: 02 New
                      +7
                      Quote: pvv113
                      Maybe that’s better.


                      Maybe you don’t understand them.
                  2. Going
                    Going 1 December 2017 17: 42 New
                    +7
                    Bad safety net may be a trap, but it's their choice.
                  3. Nikolai Grek
                    Nikolai Grek 1 December 2017 23: 55 New
                    +2
                    Quote: evsyukov_a
                    Yes, not in Latin. This desire to show the "civilized world" that they are not us. Just in case.

                    what what what Kazakhs for them will be a grade even lower than us !!! wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
                3. Agent_017
                  Agent_017 1 December 2017 20: 25 New
                  +3
                  Ingenious! Now they will begin to write transliteration in the Kazakh language ... But the funniest thing is, I want to listen to songs on transliteration ...
                  1. Going
                    Going 1 December 2017 20: 59 New
                    +8
                    I'm afraid that few people will like it.
              2. Piramidon
                Piramidon 1 December 2017 18: 21 New
                +4
                Quote: Going
                they want something of their own

                Well, nifigasebe, "his"! When was this Latin among Kazakhs “their own”? Well, I would also understand the Arabic "ligature", even the hieroglyphs are even closer.
                1. odometer
                  odometer 2 December 2017 06: 28 New
                  +1
                  from 1929 to 1940, writing (based on the Latin alphabet) was used.
              3. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 2 December 2017 10: 24 New
                +1
                Quote: Going
                they want something of their own

                they don’t introduce their own, although their scientist may well prove that the Latin alphabet was invented in protokazakhi
            3. Roman 11
              Roman 11 1 December 2017 16: 38 New
              +5
              Quote: alekc73
              Independent will not work fall under China.

              then they will be his province and again they will change the font to hieroglyphs laughing
              1. alexhol
                alexhol 1 December 2017 17: 45 New
                -2
                It is not excluded.
                1. Piramidon
                  Piramidon 1 December 2017 18: 22 New
                  0
                  Quote: alexhol
                  It is not excluded.

                  With hieroglyphs, they will dislocate the brains.
                  1. alexhol
                    alexhol 1 December 2017 19: 38 New
                    +1
                    Well, with the Russian, too, not everything was so smooth
                    1. Going
                      Going 1 December 2017 21: 00 New
                      +7
                      And what was forced so much?
            4. Pirogov
              Pirogov 1 December 2017 17: 13 New
              +6
              Quote: alekc73
              NOT funny. The Kazakhs do not want to have anything in common with Russia. Here and change the font. It will not work to be independent, they will fall under China.

              And thank God. Russia will rely more on itself, which means it will be stronger. But the Russian diaspora cannot be forgotten and help it in every way.
              1. Nikolai Grek
                Nikolai Grek 1 December 2017 23: 59 New
                +4
                Quote: Pirogov
                the Russian diaspora must not be forgotten and in every possible way to help it

                return her ... along with the territory !! repeat wassat laughing laughing laughing
            5. Hammerlock
              Hammerlock 1 December 2017 17: 22 New
              0
              yes let them go through the forest ...
            6. Sergey Medvedev
              Sergey Medvedev 1 December 2017 23: 29 New
              +2
              Quote: alekc73
              Independent will not work fall under China.

              Yeah, and switch to hieroglyphic writing. Chameleon's decision, however. Then the Arabs will rise - they will switch to Arabic, etc. They’re not going to rise themselves. Previously, the NAB did not seem to be such a weather vane. Getting old? Advisors rule?
        2. vovanpain
          vovanpain 1 December 2017 15: 53 New
          +4
          Quote: Vita VKO
          Kazakhs are simply tired of making stickers on a standard keyboard

          Colleague, are you really going to swear and in Latin? I won’t believe in life. laughing We have standard clavs in both Latin and Russian.
          1. pvv113
            pvv113 1 December 2017 17: 56 New
            +3
            And a single mat in the whole post-Soviet space! laughing
            Hello Volodya!
        3. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 2 December 2017 09: 13 New
          0
          Quote: Vita VKO
          Kazakhs are simply tired of making stickers on a standard keyboard.

          not stupid than come up with an option tar or Claudia 15 years did not buy
      2. Reserve officer
        Reserve officer 1 December 2017 15: 27 New
        18
        Nazarbayev began to remind me of something decrepit Brezhnev. The inner circle twists them as he wants.
        All these clans are trying to escape from all Russian. But, in my opinion, they forgot to ask their people about this. At least those people who live there and with whom I maintain relations after the end of my service at the Semipalatinsk training ground are shocked by what is happening now.
        1. Going
          Going 1 December 2017 15: 34 New
          11
          Quote: Stock Officer
          At least those people who live there and with whom I maintain relations after the end of my service at the Semipalatinsk training ground are shocked by what is happening now.


          But Nazarbayev leaves a mark in the History of Kazakhstan, as a great reformer. lol
          1. Reserve officer
            Reserve officer 1 December 2017 15: 39 New
            10
            He has authority - more than enough. He is indeed a very strong politician and a recognized leader. And it has already entered the history of Kazakhstan. But such words and deeds, on the contrary, will remain dark spots. I really will not transmit the content of telephone conversations with friends living in Kazakhstan, because 90% of the text is unprintable.
            1. Going
              Going 1 December 2017 15: 44 New
              10
              One can only guess that he is a really strong leader, but it’s time to find and put in power a power, and the environment seems to be unwilling.
              1. pvv113
                pvv113 1 December 2017 16: 29 New
                +5
                After the collapse of the Union, Nazarbayev seemed the only adequate leader of the former Soviet republics.
                1. Going
                  Going 1 December 2017 16: 36 New
                  11
                  Yes, and he was completely against the collapse of the USSR.
                  1. pvv113
                    pvv113 1 December 2017 17: 20 New
                    +5
                    I was also against hi
                    1. Going
                      Going 1 December 2017 17: 32 New
                      +9
                      We all voted in a referendum to preserve the USSR, but who listened to us.
                      1. pvv113
                        pvv113 1 December 2017 17: 42 New
                        +2
                        Hang those freaks by their feet in a crowded place
                    2. Going
                      Going 1 December 2017 17: 48 New
                      +7
                      Quote: pvv113
                      Hang those freaks by their feet in a crowded place


                      One would be enough, but now what's the point.
                  2. Sars
                    Sars 1 December 2017 17: 46 New
                    +4
                    You probably have not seen how Nazarbayev and Kui kissed the gums. He openly said that they no longer need Russia, and Kazakhstan and Ukraine themselves will explore outer space.
                    1. Sars
                      Sars 1 December 2017 17: 48 New
                      +4
                      Cool, the robot remakes the name Kuch-ma in Kui.
                      1. Going
                        Going 1 December 2017 17: 56 New
                        +8
                        A Freudian reservation is what Nazarbayev will get.
                      2. pvv113
                        pvv113 1 December 2017 20: 36 New
                        +4
                        The robot knows better who is who wink
                    2. Agent_017
                      Agent_017 1 December 2017 20: 30 New
                      +3
                      Precisely, some on horseback jump into space from dunes .. Others will invent a rocket engine in fat ..
                    3. Going
                      Going 1 December 2017 21: 02 New
                      +6
                      Quote: pvv113
                      The robot knows better who is who wink


                      He is a demon of preferences, he is "iron."
            2. Roman 11
              Roman 11 1 December 2017 16: 56 New
              +5
              Quote: Reserve officer
              He is indeed a very strong politician and a recognized leader.

              really, very strong politician will never be stupid!

              What will this change bring them? Will the whole Anglo-Saxon world rush into Kazakhstan after this?

              On the contrary, it is necessary to block with neighbors, to strengthen ties in every possible way ... that he does not understand that if there are economic ties, then with the former republics.

              And this move is stupid, of course, everyone understands that it is more connected with the West for tourism development ...... but honestly, Kazakhstan is not a pearl of Asia, and no one knows what will happen next, maybe they will turn into a country of guest workers, from heavy industry they partially left the industry evacuated back in the war and they are unlikely to survive on this.

              And on tourism - rather zapadentsev will visit Central Asia - Urgench, Bukhara, Samarkand ... it is more historical, there he stomped the land Genghis Khan!

              In short, the NAS scored a goal into their own net - AND THIS IS A STEP FROM THE CUSTOMS UNION!
              Time will show whether it was right, but it would be more accurate not to happen, that time has clearly demonstrated that the Union has disintegrated and everyone has become much worse! The history of fools does not teach anything!
              1. Going
                Going 1 December 2017 17: 44 New
                +7
                In short, the NAS scored a goal into their own net - AND THIS IS A STEP FROM THE CUSTOMS UNION!
                Time will show whether it was right, but it would be more accurate not to happen, that time has clearly demonstrated that the Union has disintegrated and everyone has become much worse! The history of fools does not teach anything!


                He didn’t score, he missed.
              2. Siban
                Siban 1 December 2017 20: 19 New
                0
                Quote: Novel 11
                On the contrary, it is necessary to block with neighbors, to strengthen ties in every possible way ... that he does not understand that if there are economic ties, then with the former republics.
                recourse
                Murat Auezov: The transition to the Latin alphabet is the real policy. Murat AUEZOV, a culturologist and public figure, expressed his opinion on the Latin alphabet.
                “With your question about switching to the Latin alphabet, you are again pouring salt into the wound. Current ideologists say that "there is no politics in the transition to the Latin alphabet." No need for such cheap populism. This is real politics, real political action. Our response to the force that at one time divided the Turkic peoples is our opposition to that. Therefore, it was necessary to switch back to the Latin alphabet. We must choose a systematic version of the Latin alphabet, which would be common for the Turkic-speaking peoples. But we again make the same mistake that took place in the past, which we were accused of at one time - the separation of the Turkic peoples. We step on the same rake. Therefore, a special commission dealing with this should still improve the selected version of the alphabet, ”he said.
        2. LSA57
          LSA57 1 December 2017 15: 42 New
          +5
          Quote: Reserve officer
          At least those people who live there and with whom I maintain relations after the end of my service at the Semipalatinsk training ground are shocked by what is happening now.

          served in Baikonur. was the beautiful city of Leninsk. was fenced off from the Kazakhs by a thorn. after the collapse of the USSR, Kazakhs entered there. the city is gone. looted and destroyed. now built a new
          1. Scoun
            Scoun 1 December 2017 15: 59 New
            +5
            Quote: LSA57
            Quote: Reserve officer
            At least those people who live there and with whom I maintain relations after the end of my service at the Semipalatinsk training ground are shocked by what is happening now.

            served in Baikonur. was the beautiful city of Leninsk. was fenced off from the Kazakhs by a thorn. after the collapse of the USSR, Kazakhs entered there. the city is gone. looted and destroyed. now built a new

            He lived at the state farm. There was a beautiful state farm with a research institute and garages with spans of 30 meters, a truck with a trailer was unfolding.
            After the collapse of the USSR, locals entered there, looted and destroyed. Now they cannot build one. wassat
            This picture was observed throughout the former USSR, the capitalists learned to value their capital and draw out strangers, and we built socialism, and when the USSR collapsed, we all began to take accelerated courses of capitalism and did not ask us if we wanted to or not. (((
            1. LSA57
              LSA57 1 December 2017 16: 37 New
              +6
              Quote: Scoun
              After the collapse of the USSR, locals entered there, looted and destroyed. Now they cannot build one.

              in Lipetsk we have many immigrants from there. heard a lot. one example. woman, head of the railway station at the quarry. they clean it. in her place put the former head of the kindergarten. They are going to take things on a trolley. she tells her how and what. she doesn’t listen to her. looks at the driver. then produces the phrase. how do you get on these pieces of iron? it's about rails
              1. Skarpzd
                Skarpzd 2 December 2017 02: 18 New
                +1
                oh come on you! well, a man from kindergarten, what to expect from him? here in the summer there was a check from Moscow, so one of the inspectors (a technologist is there, I don’t remember what kind of unit it is there, but RZhdshnik for sure) pointing fingers at the locomotive says men, but show me how this BUS looks inside, or three I have been working for years and have never been.
          2. avt
            avt 1 December 2017 16: 28 New
            +2
            Quote: LSA57
            was the beautiful city of Leninsk.

            Yes-ah-ah-ah ..... supplied him to the USSR in the category ,, A "Well, now the city is dying slowly, painfully, but surely.
            1. LSA57
              LSA57 1 December 2017 16: 39 New
              +3
              Quote: avt
              supplied him to the USSR in the category

              my city is many times larger, but what was there in the shops we never dreamed of
          3. asiat_61
            asiat_61 1 December 2017 20: 21 New
            +2
            Where did you see that the nomads would build something?
            1. Agent_017
              Agent_017 1 December 2017 20: 33 New
              +2
              Yurts, you forgot about yurts ... !!!
              1. asiat_61
                asiat_61 1 December 2017 20: 37 New
                +2
                Yurt is yes, the pinnacle of architecture.
                1. Going
                  Going 1 December 2017 21: 03 New
                  +7
                  So what do you think will run away to live in the steppe?
        3. Sasha71
          Sasha71 1 December 2017 17: 15 New
          +1
          Quote: Stock Officer
          Nazarbayev began to remind me of something decrepit Brezhnev. The inner circle twists them as he wants.
          All these clans are trying to escape from all Russian. But, in my opinion, they forgot to ask their people about this. At least those people who live there and with whom I maintain relations after the end of my service at the Semipalatinsk training ground are shocked by what is happening now.

          Taking control by bribing elites is an ancient practice. Since the States print dollars, they always have enough green paper for this, then this is their main method of influence, and force methods have always been secondary to them. Although, in this case, the transition to the Latin alphabet as a step from Russia is in the interests of China. It would be possible - would switch to hieroglyphs, but this option is fantastically uncomfortable and funny.
        4. evsyukov_a
          evsyukov_a 1 December 2017 17: 55 New
          0
          Exactly so ... My friend (a Russian language teacher in Schuchinsk, a Kazakh woman) stood on end from the fact that the Ministry of Education was letting them down from above. We must pay tribute - as taught before, and teaches.
          Only to regret - after all, your own on the board ...
      3. tomket
        tomket 1 December 2017 15: 28 New
        +3
        Quote: Zibelew
        The rest are free. They can go even to hieroglyphs. What difference does it make to us with what characters the Kazakhs will write their words, we will not read them anyway.

        There is, by the way, the version that they switch to the Latin alphabet so that they would not be forced to switch to hieroglyphs in the future. They are afraid of the great dragon, and here they are looking for counterweights in everything.
        1. Going
          Going 1 December 2017 16: 38 New
          +9
          And what does the Latin protect? I doubt it.
      4. faterdom
        faterdom 1 December 2017 19: 53 New
        +3
        But in the next generation they will be able to write letters in pure Kazakh Moldavians. In Latin And those in Latin will answer them, like true Latins, succinctly and in Romanesque. That is, in Romanian. But unofficially, they will still speak Russian to each other.
      5. Skif83
        Skif83 2 December 2017 06: 48 New
        0
        There is a suspicion that again some preferences are bargaining for themselves ...
      6. 73bor
        73bor 2 December 2017 07: 16 New
        0
        Interesting, but the book in Kazakh turns out to be junk? And it is unlikely that anyone will translate all the books into a new version of the language, and in Latin, where will they find a whole series of letters? It is a pity for the Kazakhs, and will remain - "horse thieves."
    2. Thrall
      Thrall 1 December 2017 15: 16 New
      12
      Quote: _Jack_
      That damn thing, but we do not enter, then, in this magical world.

      So we will remain in the world of Pushkin, Tolstoy and Dostoevsky ...
      1. Makarov
        Makarov 1 December 2017 15: 26 New
        +1
        and this world is less and less ...
        1. serriy
          serriy 1 December 2017 16: 01 New
          +4
          and this world is less and less ...

          But ours. We have enough of our country!good
          It would be good if the Russian liberals switched to Latin, along with the second passports. And they would forget both the Cyrillic alphabet and the road to Russia. drinks
          For the outcome of all migrants and liberals from Russia! drinks drinks
          Let them have a "developing information world", and we have a normal, not a "digital" liberalistic economy. drinks
          1. Going
            Going 1 December 2017 21: 05 New
            +8
            It is so, but it cannot be closed.
        2. Lycan
          Lycan 1 December 2017 16: 28 New
          +1
          But no worse (in the sense of literature).
          But the issues of arranging people. households will have to be decided in any language (with any alphabet). But if behind - a knurled and "doped" alphabet, according to the rules of the new - is doubly unusual (at least for one full generation).
      2. PalBor
        PalBor 1 December 2017 15: 44 New
        +2
        Quote: Thrall
        Quote: _Jack_
        That damn thing, but we do not enter, then, in this magical world.

        So we will remain in the world of Pushkin, Tolstoy and Dostoevsky ...

        What a wretched and gray world. crying
      3. zelenii75
        zelenii75 1 December 2017 15: 46 New
        0
        You, most importantly, hang on there! And we, as in the bright future get comfortable, so immediately call you! wink
        1. captain
          captain 1 December 2017 17: 33 New
          +4
          Quote: zelenii75
          You, most importantly, hang on there! And we, as in the bright future get comfortable, so immediately call you! wink

          On 7 of August 1929 of the year, the Presidium of the Central Executive Committee of the USSR and the Council of People's Commissars of the USSR adopted a resolution on the introduction of the "Unified Turkic Alphabet" based on the Latin alphabet. The Latin alphabet was used from 1929 to 1940, then there was a transition to the Cyrillic alphabet. Comrade Communists, it’s a shame for you to blame the Latin alphabet accepted by the Kazakhs. You were the first to offer them this option. And your brethren presented 6 of Russia's regions to the Kazakhstan you created, and now here you are trying to be clever. Traitors you are the Russian people.
          1. zelenii75
            zelenii75 2 December 2017 06: 46 New
            +2
            Well, let's not be all under one comb. I am Russian, born in the Urals, I have been living in Kazakhstan since 5 years. So that for me he is also native! This is not about betrayals, or renunciations! It's just that I, as an almost indigenous Kazakhstani, do not understand the need for this transition! So much money comes into it, at that moment when education is slipping to the level of "Rocky" and health care to "SORRY" !!! Very timely !!!
      4. alexhol
        alexhol 1 December 2017 22: 12 New
        0
        In the world of Pushkin, in the world of high society of that time, his native language was French, of which he was fluent. So you have to be more modest and not put yourself on a par with Pushkin (his world is unfortunately not our world).
    3. siberalt
      siberalt 1 December 2017 15: 21 New
      +6
      Finally, the Kazakhs were blown away by happiness. Now at school, buffff needs to be taught less.lol
      1. NikolaiN
        NikolaiN 2 December 2017 10: 38 New
        0
        Not so little
    4. Juborg
      Juborg 1 December 2017 15: 36 New
      +3
      Nazarbay nonsense! The old man has survived from a campaign mind. And then the same China is not all not included and not included in the information world, and Russia too.
    5. SOF
      SOF 1 December 2017 15: 45 New
      +1
      Quote: _Jack_
      That damn thing, but we don’t enter, then, in this magical world

      ... do not worry, besides us, the Japanese, Chinese, Koreans and others will have to remain defective.
      We will not be so alone laughing
    6. To be or not to be
      To be or not to be 1 December 2017 15: 46 New
      +5
      "Nazarbayev: Kazakhstan will enter the Latin alphabet ..."
      oh ..... come in. laughing .yes how .. laughing
      1. Going
        Going 1 December 2017 16: 40 New
        10
        He will enter so that then he will not be able to wash himself for a long time.
        1. Agent_017
          Agent_017 1 December 2017 20: 42 New
          +1
          It will not enter, but it will come .. Then the legs will glow for a long time ..
          1. Going
            Going 1 December 2017 21: 06 New
            +7
            Quote: Agent_017
            It will not enter, but it will come .. Then the legs will glow for a long time ..


            This is if you do not step over.
    7. nemec55
      nemec55 1 December 2017 15: 47 New
      +2
      There is a version that this was done specifically so that there would be a great deal of petanianism among Kazakhs with a language and they would study their native Russian painfully
      1. Going
        Going 1 December 2017 16: 41 New
        +8
        Those have this Putin’s secret plan? belay laughing
    8. Primoos
      Primoos 1 December 2017 15: 54 New
      +4
      Today there are three languages, tomorrow less. The nomadic steppes gently attach themselves to what they consider to be strong. Russians are already leaving the so-called Kazakhstan. The Russians will leave, the culture will leave. Doomed territory.
      1. Going
        Going 1 December 2017 16: 42 New
        +8
        For their state, only a quarter of a century, under such a policy, they can sink into oblivion, but keep Nazarbayev’s authority.
        1. zelenii75
          zelenii75 2 December 2017 06: 52 New
          0
          No .... Not a quarter! Today, banners were celebrated throughout the city (I think, throughout the country): "550 years of the Kazakh Khanate"! True, few knew about it .....
    9. Finches
      Finches 1 December 2017 16: 07 New
      +9
      With all due respect to Nursultan Nazarbayev, but in my opinion he has already entered, but not in "developing world", and insanity ....
      1. Going
        Going 1 December 2017 16: 43 New
        +8
        It’s a pity I didn’t prepare the receiver, without it the state could again escape into the steppe.
    10. gromoboj
      gromoboj 2 December 2017 04: 34 New
      0
      Of course, it is impossible to learn a second language. =)
  2. Mihail177
    Mihail177 1 December 2017 15: 13 New
    +1
    Hmm, there are wildly waiting for the Kazakhs.
  3. Thrall
    Thrall 1 December 2017 15: 13 New
    +5
    Aksakal is aging ... nonsense begins to carry
  4. gloomy fox
    gloomy fox 1 December 2017 15: 20 New
    +2
    What kind of hell is he talking about? What digital world will we enter with Latin? Well, compared to the development strategy of 2050, the transition from Cyrillic to Latin is a trifle!
    1. siberalt
      siberalt 1 December 2017 15: 32 New
      +2
      Completely change the writing is possible only in the third generation. And then, if the present goes for it. hi
  5. Kent0001
    Kent0001 1 December 2017 15: 23 New
    +1
    The old man rolls to insanity, how will he continue to lead the country?
  6. wild
    wild 1 December 2017 15: 23 New
    10
    Uzbeks are very happy, for 20 years the population has become dull to the level of a tree.
    1. siberalt
      siberalt 1 December 2017 15: 38 New
      +3
      In the post-Soviet space, unfortunately, everyone has become dumb from social experiments on people.
    2. shans2
      shans2 1 December 2017 18: 20 New
      0
      return to the roots and roots).
  7. tomket
    tomket 1 December 2017 15: 27 New
    +4
    It was thought that later on in the text it would be: "Kazakhstan will join civilized countries, embark on a democratic path, join freedom, learn tolerance and so on la-la-la ..."
    1. Reserve officer
      Reserve officer 1 December 2017 15: 33 New
      +4
      Quote: tomket
      It was thought that later on in the text it would be: "Kazakhstan will join civilized countries, embark on a democratic path, join freedom, learn tolerance and so on la-la-la ..."


      Something very familiar ... Isn’t Poroshenko sharing an invaluable experience with them for an hour?
    2. PalBor
      PalBor 1 December 2017 15: 50 New
      +4
      Quote: tomket
      It was thought that later on in the text it would be: "Kazakhstan will join civilized countries, embark on a democratic path, join freedom, learn tolerance and so on la-la-la ..."

      Ah, I get it! Atatürk translated Turkish into Latin and the Turks joined the civilized world in the person of several tens of millions of immigrants. Nazar-bai is achieving this? But what if they bring down Europe to freedom and tolerance, and Kazakhstan will remain Russian. wink
  8. Smoked
    Smoked 1 December 2017 15: 29 New
    0
    He does it right. If you want the best card with CASHBACK, and not a refund, buy it yourself you know whom.
  9. Going
    Going 1 December 2017 15: 31 New
    10
    Everyone goes crazy in his own way, that it can be said that the war continues with all the Russians.
  10. Romanenko
    Romanenko 1 December 2017 15: 32 New
    +3
    Probably for many centuries Kazakhstan was languishing under the oppression of the Cyrillic alphabet, now they will simply soar like eagles in the sky with the Latin alphabet.
    Yes, in general, then of course their business, maybe Russia will pass over to hieroglyphs over time, only whether it is necessary, probably there are no other problems?
    1. Reserve officer
      Reserve officer 1 December 2017 16: 58 New
      +6
      Well, Kazakhstan was languishing “under the yoke of the Cyrillic alphabet” only from 1940 of the year. The Cyrillic alphabet is known to have been developed for its people by Sarsen Amanzholovich Amanzholov, instead of several existing varieties of Turkic and Arabic. The Kazakhs did not have their own alphabet. And here are the reviews of the new Latin alphabet that I found on the Internet:
      1. The principle characteristic of modern alphabets is not maintained: “one phoneme - one grapheme and vice versa”, or more simply, one letter must correspond to one sound and one letter to one sound.
      2. Significant lengthening of the text compared to the Cyrillic or Latin alphabet with diacritics, which will lead to increased consumption of paper for printed copies, increased consumption of capacity of electronic media, increased processing time, reduced effective data transfer speed over telecommunication lines and in general, will give a cumulative effect increase costs in the economy.
      3. Excessive use of apostrophes makes typing and reading difficult. To stop the problem, it is proposed, taking into account the law of syngarmonism, to put apostrophes only at the very first vowel of the front row Aʼ, Oʼ, Uʼ, excluding them altogether from words where the letters E, I, G, K are found, since they serve as a necessary and sufficient marker words with vowels of the front row. However, at the same time, there remains an insoluble problem with the letters Gʼ, Iʼ, Nʼ, Sʼ, C откуда, Yʼ, from where it will not be possible to remove the apostrophes.
      4. The non-standard position of the letter Cʼ in alphabetical order will either lead to a violation of the sort order (elements with the letter Cʼ will be located between the letters B and D), or to the need to refine the entire sorting software, which is impossible in practice. This is especially incomprehensible in the light of the statement of the leader of Kazakhstan on the desire for advanced information technologies.
      1. Romanenko
        Romanenko 1 December 2017 20: 01 New
        +1
        Well, the troubles of using Latin after the Cyrillic alphabet are obvious - this is even seen by the names on the nets of hockey players when, instead of one letter, two or three.
        Simply, in the words of Sherlock Holmes I want to ask - Who benefits from this ???
        Nursultan Nazarbayev’s phrase about joining the information world does not stand up to criticism very much. Commands in programming languages ​​are in English, and not in Kazakh Latin. The only thing you can win is the writing of SMS messages and posts in Latin due to the lack of the need to use additional encoding tools, more compactly. Well, that’s it ....
        Because of this chtoli?
        So it seems to be useless.
        1. Svist
          Svist 2 December 2017 02: 08 New
          0
          Quote: Romanenko
          Sherlock Holmes says I want to ask - Who benefits from this ???

          Is he the author of the aphorism? what
  11. QWERTY
    QWERTY 1 December 2017 15: 33 New
    +6
    When the cat has nothing to do - he licks something there)))) How many Uzbeks have joined the treasures of world wisdom, now they are considering the problems of the universe with brooms and shovels.
    1. asiat_61
      asiat_61 1 December 2017 20: 32 New
      +2
      Moldova, Azerbaijan also switched to the Latin alphabet, and immediately the happiness fell.
  12. K-50
    K-50 1 December 2017 15: 33 New
    +7
    It seems to be an old man, and stupid babbling like stupidity.
    Nazarbayev: With the transition to Latin, Kazakhstan will enter the developing information world

    Something neither to China, nor to Korea, nor to Japan in any way prevents it from being developed in the information world. Well, no way. request
    This is what the cost of changing the alphabet and others !!!
    Well, and do not care. The people have survived the mind, senility has happened, well, and people, do not care, shavat another nonsense. yes fool
  13. Sergey-8848
    Sergey-8848 1 December 2017 15: 38 New
    +4
    So think up, the great helmsman and omniscient in the steppes, following your alphabet and your numbers! Why are you rushing between the Latin alphabet and the Cyrillic alphabet! Do, Nursultan, your own, great, unknown to anyone! Dig out the unknown founts of knowledge that the Bolsheviks hid (they are also agents of tsarism who laid down their lives against everyone who is in a turban with stripes).
  14. nemec55
    nemec55 1 December 2017 15: 38 New
    0
    In the new dunce dung you come.
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  17. zelenii75
    zelenii75 1 December 2017 15: 43 New
    +1
    Somewhat off topic, but I need help for a beginner - Ie i.e. : maybe someone can tell me why in Kazakhstan they blocked VO? and even the android application doesn’t work either? request I registered on the forum, but have not yet figured out what's what. Who is not difficult to write. Andrey75 nickname on the forum. Thank! hi
    1. Vita vko
      Vita vko 1 December 2017 15: 55 New
      0
      Quote: zelenii75
      Somewhat off topic, but I need help for a beginner - Ie i.e. : maybe someone can tell me why in Kazakhstan they blocked VO?

      Obviously, because in Kazakhstan there is quite strict censorship, and even on oblique views towards the "throne" in Akorda.
      The option to bypass the lock is standard as everywhere else - turn on the VPN, which will mask your ip.
      1. avt
        avt 1 December 2017 16: 32 New
        +3
        Quote: Vita VKO
        Quote: zelenii75
        Somewhat off topic, but I need help for a beginner - Ie i.e. : maybe someone can tell me why in Kazakhstan they blocked VO?

        Obviously, because in Kazakhstan there is quite strict censorship, and even on oblique views towards the "throne" in Akorda.
        The option to bypass the lock is standard as everywhere else - turn on the VPN, which will mask your ip.

        Yoshkin cat! wassat Here I took it and debased everything! There is no way to advise you to go the course of elbasy - to learn neolatice bully
    2. odometer
      odometer 1 December 2017 16: 24 New
      0
      There is no blocking. This is a site problem. Well, or through the opera with vpn.
      1. Walking
        Walking 1 December 2017 19: 06 New
        0
        Quote: curvimeter
        There is no blocking. This is a site problem. Well, or through the opera with vpn.


        There is a lock.
        1. odometer
          odometer 2 December 2017 06: 36 New
          0
          Well, then I’m especially close ... I freely enter without any wisdom.
    3. Walking
      Walking 1 December 2017 19: 05 New
      0
      Use TOP.
      1. Skarpzd
        Skarpzd 2 December 2017 02: 32 New
        0
        or BROWSEC. or HOLA.
    4. Siban
      Siban 1 December 2017 20: 00 New
      +2
      Quote: zelenii75
      why in Kazakhstan blocked VO?
      That's right, otherwise moderators on VO got frozen. Let them also be in the bathhouse .. laughing otherwise the crown is shaking .. am
    5. Svist
      Svist 2 December 2017 02: 12 New
      0
      Have you tried it in Latin? laughing
  18. Alex20042004
    Alex20042004 1 December 2017 15: 49 New
    +1
    Quote: tomket
    Quote: Zibelew
    The rest are free. They can go even to hieroglyphs. What difference does it make to us with what characters the Kazakhs will write their words, we will not read them anyway.

    There is, by the way, the version that they switch to the Latin alphabet so that they would not be forced to switch to hieroglyphs in the future. They are afraid of the great dragon, and here they are looking for counterweights in everything.


    And you, friends, no matter how you sit down, everyone is not good at musicians .....
  19. alexmach
    alexmach 1 December 2017 15: 59 New
    +2
    Also, the Kazakh president did not explain what exactly is the connection between the translation of the alphabet into the Latin alphabet and entering the "new information world"

    They will write on the computer without switching the keyboard layout. For this they pay with ugliness with the apostorophs.

    To be part of the new information world, you need not change alphabets, but create your own popular product

    Here 100%
  20. zelenii75
    zelenii75 1 December 2017 15: 59 New
    +2
    Quote: Alex20042004
    Quote: tomket
    Quote: Zibelew
    The rest are free. They can go even to hieroglyphs. What difference does it make to us with what characters the Kazakhs will write their words, we will not read them anyway.

    There is, by the way, the version that they switch to the Latin alphabet so that they would not be forced to switch to hieroglyphs in the future. They are afraid of the great dragon, and here they are looking for counterweights in everything.


    And you, friends, no matter how you sit down, everyone is not good at musicians .....

    You don’t know everything yet! There is a suggestion that a citizen traveling outside the Republic of Kazakhstan at the border control would perform the Anthem of Kazakhstan! Otherwise they won’t release !!! stop It remains only to wait for the anthem in Latin! good
    1. avt
      avt 1 December 2017 19: 29 New
      0
      Quote: zelenii75
      ! There is a suggestion that a citizen traveling outside the Republic of Kazakhstan at the border control would perform the Anthem of Kazakhstan! Otherwise they won’t release !!! It remains only to wait for the anthem in Latin!

      good I am for ! bully Here he sang in Kazakh and write in Latin, then open the barrier. bully
  21. NF68
    NF68 1 December 2017 16: 02 New
    +3
    No matter which font in Kazakhstan they switch to, it still will not save Kazakhstan from a huge number of problems, since the point is not in the font, but in the obvious lack of brains.
  22. rotor
    rotor 1 December 2017 16: 09 New
    0
    In connection with the Latin alphabet, we are all entering the common developing information world, the language of the Internet, the language of science and culture.


    Here, as they say, the shoes are tight for a bad dancer. But the Chinese and Japanese, and the characters are not a hindrance.
  23. Nemesis
    Nemesis 1 December 2017 16: 12 New
    +3
    Rather, it will strengthen its place in the list of patients with Russophobia of the states of the former scoop
  24. Black_Vatnik
    Black_Vatnik 1 December 2017 16: 17 New
    +3
    Yeah, change the alphabet and everything will work out right away)
  25. Illegal-M
    Illegal-M 1 December 2017 16: 19 New
    +3
    The "former" are eager to want to be distant from Russia, supposedly they are independent in everything .. Well, well! Kazakhs are funny and sad ... If it weren’t for the support of Russia, you as a nation would not have existed for a long time. (no offense, but it is a fact.)
    In vain you are so with us .. hi
  26. Naughty
    Naughty 1 December 2017 16: 25 New
    +3
    Let the Kazakhs look at Afghanistan. How he lives. This is their future. When America takes it. And she will definitely take it at the appointed time. And there’s a 99% chance that they will bring their shit democracy to the Kazakhs. This process is fine-tuned for them. They will not help them poor fellow Well okromya Russia If they do not deceive us with the next president
    1. Siban
      Siban 1 December 2017 21: 40 New
      +1
      Quote: Vzdrincher
      Let the Kazakhs look at Afghanistan. How does he live?
      Modern Afghanistan - "Your Work" ..
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  28. Sars
    Sars 1 December 2017 17: 28 New
    0
    There is no censorship in Russia, only messages disappear.
    The phrase "Putin's propaganda" is illegal.
  29. Sars
    Sars 1 December 2017 17: 32 New
    +2
    Kazakhs in the nineties already tried to switch to Arabic writing, but the mental abilities of the majority of the population did not allow this.
  30. Stas
    Stas 1 December 2017 17: 37 New
    +8
    Let us first deal with our problems. In Russia, many purposefully or by their stupidity do not care about the Russian language. Look, from the TV screens and from street shields and Internet resources there is a systematic war with the Russian language, replacing it with Englishisms written in Cyrillic. Even on this patriotic website, some patriots often wipe their feet and do their best to replace Russian words with English crap written in Cyrillic.
    Vivid examples of this: "respect" English. respect - RESPECT, "weekend" - Weekend - weekends, etc. I can continue further, sorry for my time.
    Dear, let us treat our mother tongue with love and respect, but I don’t care about the rest.
    1. Agent_017
      Agent_017 1 December 2017 20: 50 New
      +1
      True words ..
  31. Sars
    Sars 1 December 2017 17: 40 New
    +6
    A joke from personal life. I drive a car with Kazakhstan CSH numbers. Stop zholpolitseyasy. Punch through the base. Kazakh on the radio (in Russian) calls the number: es-Russian, es-not Russian, en.
    I - to him: not en, but hey. He does not understand what it is about.
    1. Humpty
      Humpty 1 December 2017 17: 59 New
      +1
      Quote: SarS
      I - to him: not en, but hey. He does not understand what it is about.

      Nothing, nothing, they could have requested a first-aid kit with translation into Kazakh. And my motley Indian skullcap annoys them, they do not sell them and do not wear them.
  32. alexhol
    alexhol 1 December 2017 17: 44 New
    -1
    I think that even in the near future, Russian will also switch to Latin. Alas, this is an inevitable process of globalization, as inevitable as the extinction of the Belarusian Mova. Well, in Moscow in 15-20 years, half the population will write in Arabic. and the other will not be able to write at all.
    1. shans2
      shans2 1 December 2017 18: 22 New
      +1
      Zmagar, don’t write crap about Arabic here, you look stupid, we don’t have Paris, there are no Arabs ...
      1. alexhol
        alexhol 1 December 2017 19: 16 New
        +1
        . There are no Arabs.
        1. Tersky
          Tersky 1 December 2017 19: 43 New
          +5
          Quote: alexhol
          . There are no Arabs.

          Since when did Tatars, Bashkirs, Chechens, Uzbeks, Tajiks, Azerbaijanis become Arabs? Everyone has their own alphabet and script. Do not carry a snowstorm. Judging by your nickname written in Latin by Rygorych, the process of transferring files submitted to the Latin alphabet reached its climax.
          1. alexhol
            alexhol 1 December 2017 20: 13 New
            -1
            They all have one important and revered book in Arabic by all of them. Regarding my "nickname" - everything is simpler here. This is due to my work (Alexander, refrigeration equipment), one of the email addresses, and therefore in Latin. Well, in vain you Rygorich. It was precisely in 1995 that he initiated a referendum on the recognition of the status of the state language as the state language. In what other country do they speak Russian, write. read by at least 90% of the population?
    2. Berkut24
      Berkut24 1 December 2017 18: 46 New
      +1
      I think that even in the near future, Russian will also switch to Latin.

      And I bet that the remnants of the West after Merkel and Trump will switch to the Cyrillic alphabet. Where else can they escape from their tolerance?
  33. Humpty
    Humpty 1 December 2017 17: 45 New
    +3
    Quote: Novel 11
    And this move is stupid, of course, everyone understands that it is more connected for the development of tourism with the West ...... but honestly, Kazakhstan is not a pearl of Asia,

    I can tell a lot about the long-term and successful struggle of Kazakhstan with tourism. Only in PM, because not quite in the profile of VO. I wish the Kazakhstanis peace, prosperity, patience and the possibility of access to the Russian media. Including in.
  34. Eurodav
    Eurodav 1 December 2017 18: 40 New
    0
    "... At the same time, the President of Kazakhstan once again decided to ignore the numerous proposals of public organizations on the need to raise the issue of changing the alphabet used in the Kazakh language to a popular referendum ..."
    Only for this, no one will call him a dictator! Now, if he had stepped in our direction, then he would have been torn by falseSMI ...
  35. Berkut24
    Berkut24 1 December 2017 18: 43 New
    0
    Moldovan stupidity was contagious.
  36. Mentat
    Mentat 1 December 2017 18: 48 New
    0
    Quote: alexhol
    I think that even in the near future, Russian will also switch to Latin. Alas, this is an inevitable process of globalization, as inevitable as the extinction of the Belarusian Mova. Well, in Moscow in 15-20 years, half the population will write in Arabic. and the other will not be able to write at all.

    If you continue to absorb ethanol in such quantities to write like this, you still will not see such glitches.
    1. alexhol
      alexhol 1 December 2017 19: 24 New
      +2
      Then I have a question. Why in Russia, for example, the police were renamed the police? Something has changed? If you had been told about this 10 years ago, then you would probably twisted your finger at the temple. Right? What seems unshakable today will be at the junkyard of history tomorrow.
  37. romb
    romb 1 December 2017 19: 14 New
    +2
    Garno burnlaughing
    Kazakhstan made a decision. Dissent - the wind in the ass and tailwind. hi
    1. Tersky
      Tersky 1 December 2017 19: 59 New
      +4
      Quote: romb
      Kazakhstan has made a decision.

      One non-state of neighboring nationality made the same decision three years ago, and now it is burning up. And, the wind - it is changeable, this is a reflection on the future ....
      1. romb
        romb 1 December 2017 20: 21 New
        +3
        With all the shortcomings that exist in Kazakhstan, what can not be taken away from it is the ability to plan activities for the long term. This is not Russia, which, after the collapse of the USSR, managed to stagger from edge to edge. Move to the West - even asked to NATO, but in the state and girlfriends visited. And now with the same zeal for Chinese initiatives lies down. You would have decided. Once you build a national ideology a la "Russian World", so make it as less damaging as possible. In the meantime, it looks more like female hysteria, rather than a politically motivated long-term strategy. wink
        1. Tersky
          Tersky 1 December 2017 22: 18 New
          +4
          Quote: romb
          what he does not take away is the ability to plan activities for the long term.

          It’s noticeable, I’m talking about prospects where, under the guise of the illusion of friendship with Russia, the leadership of Kazakhstan continues to erase Russian names from the map of Kazakhstan with impunity and engage in mythological redrawing of history. When, under the guise of external friendship with Russia, the Kazakh leadership inside Kazakhstan through the state education system continues to inspire the Kazakh population with the image of the enemy Russia and myths about the hated Russian empire, which for the 2,5 century did not allow the great nomadic herders to develop their civilization. As for the vacillations of Russia, there were many of them in its history, only it was as it is. In Latin, the casket just opens - the Kazakh language, by its functional and linguistic qualities, is absolutely not capable of replacing the Russian language in all the fundamental spheres of the political and economic activity of the state in a decade and a half. Functional and linguistic qualities of the Russian language supplant the professional unsuitability and scientific and technical inadequacy of the Kazakh language. This is where the Latin feet grow.
  38. Alexander Petrov1
    Alexander Petrov1 1 December 2017 19: 22 New
    +2
    He thinks that someone will notice his state on the map after the Latin alphabet!? Yes, if it weren’t not for Lenin, they would still have driven horses and would have lived in yurts not washed, but would not have lived in Western skyscrapers at the expense of oil!? And the USSR built everything — drunken Yeltsin gave even statehood !? And this is their gratitude! Thank you for switching to the language of the hostile Nato, who wants to wipe you off the face of the earth, like your political Mother Great Russia !?
  39. Mentat
    Mentat 1 December 2017 19: 35 New
    0
    Quote: alexhol
    Then I have a question. Why in Russia, for example, the police were renamed the police? Something has changed? If you had been told about this 10 years ago, then you would probably twisted your finger at the temple. Right? What seems unshakable today will be at the junkyard of history tomorrow.

    Perhaps then, to bring the name to the actual state of things? Our law enforcement agencies are a municipality, not militia units.
    How does this fact relate to your sayings?
    1. alexhol
      alexhol 1 December 2017 19: 56 New
      -2
      The key word in your answer is “maybe” - just like my word “think” (ie maybe). Not you and I, we can not 100% predict the actions of the authorities, but given how events are developing in the post-Soviet space, the most unlikely scenario of events is not ruled out.
  40. Sergey53
    Sergey53 1 December 2017 20: 19 New
    0
    He does not want to hold a referendum because the people will not vote for him.
    1. DPN
      DPN 1 December 2017 21: 11 New
      +1
      people will not vote for him.
      And who is the people asking, what do people want oligarchs from us?
  41. bondxnumx
    bondxnumx 1 December 2017 20: 30 New
    +2
    People, you are really limited! Nationalist corruption flourishes in Kazakhstan! Kazakhs in Kazakhstan are only about 30% according to Nazarbayev himself, the historical land of the Kazakhs on the territory. countries only about 15%! While the Kazakhs are in power, they will do everything FOR YOURSELF at the expense of all of Kazakhstan! Do you all think that Kazakhstan is only Kazakhs? Stupid people, you see nothing further than your plate! I have lived in Kazakhstan for 25 years out of my 45 ---- I know what I'm writing about!
    1. Naughty
      Naughty 1 December 2017 23: 39 New
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      Well, I think not 30% but more now But at the time of the collapse of the USSR Yes! it was 30% Now I think a little more than 50% (I also served in KZ a little almost 12 years) And what they say about 18 million people They lie in the most arrogant way Really there are 8 million or a maximum of 9 no more Well, except for the rams
  42. Aviator_
    Aviator_ 1 December 2017 20: 39 New
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    Insanity grew stronger. The last “First Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Union Republic” fell into final insanity, even Brezhnev of the 1982 model of the year looks at him against the backdrop of a giant of thought.
  43. DPN
    DPN 1 December 2017 21: 04 New
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    Yes, and to hell with them, the Soviet Union collapsed, here are the outskirts and are running further away from weak Russia.
    As long as we Russians wake up scolding the SOVIET past, there will not be anything good, which means that everyone will leak.
    1. Sergey53
      Sergey53 2 December 2017 08: 37 New
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      And you did not notice that the people just do not haunt the USSR. And all the stench comes from the ruling today.
  44. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 1 December 2017 21: 50 New
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    Elbasy began to suffer from dementia. yes
  45. faterdom
    faterdom 2 December 2017 00: 46 New
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    Da bud ya negr preklonnyh godov - i to, bez zaznaistva & leni, latinitsu vyuchill tolko za to, chto tak zahotel Nazarbaeff!
    1. Sergey53
      Sergey53 2 December 2017 09: 23 New
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      Somehow it will be so.
  46. Fitter65
    Fitter65 2 December 2017 02: 09 New
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    In connection with the Latin alphabet, we all enter into a common developing information world, the Internet language, the language of science and culture. We are already moving, I issued a decree on this alphabet.
    According to Nazarbayev, today about 70% of all information about science and culture is in English.

    And how much of the population of Kazakhstan are English-speaking. Or does translation into Latin automatically translate all the citizens of Kazakhstan into English-speaking?
  47. Seraphimamur
    Seraphimamur 2 December 2017 06: 43 New
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    In this regard, I recall the catch phrase of our Foreign Minister Lavrov: "D ***** b ****". They will only go to shit.
  48. Mig-31
    Mig-31 2 December 2017 07: 31 New
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    Paranoid50,
    [quote = Paranoid50] [quote = Going]request And, by the way, it became very interesting: is the "censor" in Kazakhstan prohibited or in access? [/ Quote]
    We have a strict censor in Kazakhstan, it’s forbidden for us not to blame the authorities, even the slightest criticism of the authorities will, at best, be banned in the worst.
    Indeed, VO and some other Russian sites were blocked due to negative statements in relations between Kazakhstan. At the expense of the Latin alphabet, this is not the will of the people, but a whim of power. Nobody asked us if we want the Latin alphabet or not. But in general, what the Russians boil over? I think after the formal introduction of the Latin Latin porn, many Kazakhs incl. and I will send my children to a Russian school, so that our Russian-speaking and Russian-minded people will increase dramatically and my native Kazakh language will die, so it will help us get closer.
    1. Sergey53
      Sergey53 2 December 2017 09: 27 New
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      Salaam Alaikum. I agree completely.
    2. Humpty
      Humpty 2 December 2017 09: 32 New
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      Quote: Mig-31
      At the expense of the Latin alphabet, this is not the will of the people, but a whim of power. Nobody asked us if we want the Latin alphabet or not. AND

      But all taxpayers will have to chip in. A film was recently shot here about how Nursultan Abishevich was peacekeeping, taking Bakiyev out of Kyrgyzstan. Bakiev complained that he did not even bring interchangeable underpants with him in his bag. The Kyrgyz are not greedy, they watched the film, took off their chips and brought 2 boxes of new cowards to the Kazakh embassy so that they would pass it to Bakiev.
      https://rus.azattyq.org/a/bishkek-protest-film-mi
      ssia-mirotvorca / 28888092.html
  49. Stegosaurus Brontosaurus
    Stegosaurus Brontosaurus 2 December 2017 07: 36 New
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    I wonder how they will replace their Ң, Қ, Ұ, Ө, Ә with a combination of Latin letters.
    In fact, everything is much more serious than "let them do what they want." There are almost 300 Orthodox churches in Kazakhstan. With the transition to Latin what will happen to this denomination?
    Neighboring Asian states, still having the Cyrillic alphabet, how quickly will they switch to the Latin alphabet under the influence of their powerful neighbor? How quickly do Asian immigrants who do not know how to speak Russian learn how to read yet? To what extent will this spur the nationalist forces of Tatarstan and Bashkortostan?
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 2 December 2017 10: 12 New
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      Цитата: Стегозавр Бронтозавров
      I wonder how they will replace their Ң, Қ, Ұ, Ө, Ә with a combination of Latin letters.

      other letters will also be added. either a bunch of apostrophes laughing
    2. NikolaiN
      NikolaiN 2 December 2017 10: 54 New
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      The option with combinations was, but did not pass, it will be with apostrophes, this was approved ...
    3. NikolaiN
      NikolaiN 2 December 2017 11: 26 New
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      Цитата: Стегозавр Бронтозавров
      There are almost 300 Orthodox churches in Kazakhstan. With the transition to Latin what will happen to this denomination?

      The Russian language does not concern this. Problems will only be with Kazakh.
  50. Mig-31
    Mig-31 2 December 2017 07: 39 New
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    On Thursday, in our city of Almaty, our toadies renamed Furmanov Street to Nazarbayev Ave. and I don’t know what to call it, just no words.
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 2 December 2017 10: 09 New
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      Quote: Mig-31
      and I don’t know what to call it, just no words.

      about this it was clear about 15 years ago