Repair begins TAVKR "Admiral Kuznetsov"

Commander of the North fleet Russian Federation Nikolay Evmenov announced preparations for the start of repair of the Admiral Kuznetsov heavy aircraft-carrying missile cruiser. Evmenov's statement is quoted by the news agency Interfax:

He has already been put in for repair, now preparatory measures are taking place, he is at the ship repair enterprise. Everything goes according to plans, no transfers are allowed.

The commander of the Federation Council of the Russian Federation noted that the participation of the Admiral Kuznetsov TAVKR in distant campaigns in the near future is not planned.

Earlier it was reported that the repair of the only aircraft carrier of the Russian Navy will begin in 2018 year, but the United Shipbuilding Corporation (USC) said they are ready to start repair procedures this year.

About exactly which segments of the ship will be subject to repair in the first place, not officially reported. According to some information, we can talk about repair work on the power plants of a warship and the modernization of its radio equipment.

Recall that the TAVKR "Admiral Kuznetsov" performed combat missions off the coast of the Syrian Arab Republic.

Comments

[I doubt it]

By 2030 it will be ready ...
At the same time, money will be overspended eight times, the deadlines will be postponed three times and ripped off, half of the target will be completed ...
Guilty, as always, will not be found.

[Zibelew]

Quote: I doubt it

By 2030 it will be ready ...

The main process has begun. By the way, look at the exemplary condition of the territory of the plant.

[The_lancet]

By the way, look at the exemplary condition of the plant

Bad condition .You wanted to say that?
And will ship repair be carried out there?

On board the Admiral Kuznetsov Tavkr there is a flight prototype of our stealth bomber. Unfortunately, due to the collapse of the USSR, the documentation was sold to the Americans. So they got F-117

The first flight of the F-117 is 1981

[Zibelew]

The devastation in the territory. Photo of new boilers for an aircraft carrier.

Quote: The_Lancet

The first flight of the F-117 is 1981

Well, I joked that F-117

[Zibelew]

Cauldron close up

[AID.S]

Quote: Zibelew

Cauldron close up

Simmens?

[alexhol]

This is not a cauldron.

[Zibelew]

On board the Admiral Kuznetsov Tavkr there is a flight prototype of our stealth bomber. Unfortunately, due to the collapse of the USSR, the documentation was sold to the Americans. So they got F-117

[Grandfather]

Quote: Zibelew

On board the Admiral Kuznetsov Tavkr there is a flight prototype of our stealth bomber.

Judging by the musical key on the fuselage-squadron Titarenko ... "the Old Men are going to battle."

[alexmach]

Class.
But what can you tell me? What kind of layout? For training on rolling out onto the flight deck?

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: Zibelew

On board the Admiral Kuznetsov Tavkr there is a flight prototype of our stealth bomber. Unfortunately, due to the collapse of the USSR, the documentation was sold to the Americans. So they got F-117

Well, do not joke like that, otherwise Lancet believed it seems and got into google. You do not upset him please, otherwise he still has google Russian roots will find p upset

[Chertt]

Well this is ridiculous. It was under repair for so many years, then, with grief in half, it sailed into the Mediterranean Sea. And again, a long-term repair. It may be more appropriate to write off from the existing composition of the Navy, and use it as a training

[St Petrov]

The boilers of the power plant will be replaced on it, instead of the Granit missile system, a more modern Caliber will be installed, in addition, the combat information system and the air defense system of the ship will be updated.

Good overhaul, and you are ready to write off.

[Alex777]

None of the above, at least for now, will be done.
The estimate, to clarify the situation, was halved - only for repairs.

[VALERIK_097]

Alex, do you think that it’s already RV (repair list is ready)? I doubt it.
It is not clear what kind of repair: dock, VTG or medium. Or, as always, before declare in the repair process.

[alexhol]

Вkind even rename

[askort154]

Chertt .....Well, this is ridiculous. It was under repair for so many years, then, with grief in half, it sailed into the Mediterranean Sea. And again, a long-term repair. ..

It would be funny if it were not so sad.
It seems that Kuzya came to us from the USSR, like a suitcase without a handle.

[Serg65]

Quote: Chertt

Well this is ridiculous

It’s funny when you bought a scooter, and on that very day the wheel fell off! "Kuznetsov" was born when the country wrote from McDonald's with apple syrup, and the presence in the hands of Coca-Cola gave a 100% option to write off the girl! He was born defective and for 25 years the country could not cure this defect, God forbid, they will restore health!

[VALERIK_097]

Serge, and how old he was in Vidyaevo, little was brought to mind when the “rebel Admiral” left the outskirts, when there was no information about him. so at 25.

[Serg65]

Quote: VALERIK_097

when the "rebel Admiral" left the outskirts

Well, in the first place there was no "rebellious Admiral"! Kuznetsov left as planned with a preliminary order of the straits and in accordance with the combat order of the General Staff of the Navy! The senior on board was Rear Admiral Vasily Eremin, commander of the 7th OPESK SF, Kuznetsova was escorted by the Prytlivy missile system and a tugboat, and with the exit from the Dardanelles, the Skoriy BPC, which was at that time part of 5- th OpEsk. At point 64, the aircraft carrier received fuel from our Bubnov tanker, and after the Strait of Gibraltar, the Vigilant (BF) and the Udaloy BF (SF) entered into its guard. And the tales of rebellion are for raising the spirit of the Russian electorate!

Quote: VALERIK_097

Serge, and how many years he was in Vidyaevo, little brought to mind

Excuse me, but below there are comments by Andrey from Chelyabinsk about all repairs of Kuznetsov, I don’t see any reason to repeat

[Burbon]

Quote: Chertt

then, with grief in half, sailed to the Mediterranean

waste products float, and ships go

Quote: Chertt

It may be more appropriate to write off from the existing composition of the Navy, and use it as a training

thanks to people like you - in 90 they have already written off everything, carrier-based aviation - to be!

[Chertt]

Burbon Something you, somehow weirdly started talking, Unlike previous comments, Sorry if I'm mistaken .... But didn’t Papa come back from work and didn’t drive him away from the computer?

[Burbon]

Quote: Chertt

Something you, somehow weirdly started talking

are you alright? when and where would I write anything bad about our Navy? .... especially about Kuzya? and please do not be rude, it is punishable

[Chertt]

There wasn’t any rudeness, you were mistaken, I said about changing your rhetoric, since I watched your disputes, in particular with the Jedi ... but not the point .. The other day, the annual meeting of the President and the highest military about the military budget took place. And, as far as one can judge, there will be a new Aircraft Carrier, And again, as far as one can judge, in the form of an Aircraft Carrier. On this occasion, there were my comments

[seti]

Quote: Chertt

Well this is ridiculous. It was under repair for so many years, then, with grief in half, it sailed into the Mediterranean Sea. And again, a long-term repair. It may be more appropriate to write off from the existing composition of the Navy, and use it as a training

And replace it with what? He still floats longer than you pass. We must not forget that his main problem is the power plant has already got to us in a diseased state. So you need to treat her from time to time. And in one tidy up the whole ship.
And the fact that for so many years they do not want to invest in infrastructure / support, arranging their corner of the ship is certainly sad.

[Roman 11]

Quote: Chertt

It may be more appropriate to write off from the existing composition of the Navy, and use it as a training

Boilers will deliver and will float like new, thermonuclear

[Chertt]

Well, as they say, give Allah, give Allah

[The_lancet]

The commander of the Federation Council of the Russian Federation noted that the participation of the Admiral Kuznetsov TAVKR in distant campaigns in the near future is not planned.

In this case, does it make sense to repair it at all?
Based on the experience gained and with the help of China, create a new ship

[St Petrov]

In China, a billion live, and they can afford it. We have shipyards loaded with work.

[xetai9977]

"Americans still can't"
Well, where are the poor Americans against the power of the Kuzi. With his smoke any bourgeois will defeat

[Primoos]

The whole pin.dostan army and the entire NATO shobla tried not to get close to this smoking, the only one that somehow didn’t drown. If you are such, so what will happen to you when it comes out of repair? The crow flew around, bowed. In verbiage they compete. The Russian ship completed its combat mission! This is the main thing! And where were your shitty irons? Shit around the corner? Shut your mouth! You shit against Russian sailors.

[hrych]

Quote: xetai9977

With his smoke any bourgeois will defeat

And how many aircraft carriers have Ilham? Probably do not smoke at all

[shans2]

Amerika is with us! (from)

[hrych]

Quote: The_Lancet

Based on the experience gained and with the help of China, create a new ship

So far, all the aircraft carriers of India (Vikramaditya - Gorshkov) and China (Liaoning - Varyag), which are in service, have made our own Shandun, which is launched and also copies Varyag, everyone left the project as Kuznetsov, namely 1143 "Gyrfalcon " Soon, at least 4 aircraft-carrying cruisers created under one project will threaten American interests. Therefore, your replica is not entirely appropriate. If the Indians abandoned the strike weapons and air defense systems, anti-aircraft defense in favor of the wing, then the Chinese anti-aircraft defense, anti-aircraft defense did. Kuznetsov, carries 12 anti-ship missiles, which will undoubtedly be exchanged for supersonic Onyx and hypersonic Zircons, as well as strategic ones in the arsenal (in addition to the modernization of the power plant uniquely), air defense and anti-aircraft defense will also be strengthened by modern systems. Therefore, after modernization, it is expected that a very formidable and unique Cruiser with the capabilities of an air wing and powerful shock, thanks to the long-range and naturally nuclear missiles. In fact, it will be the most powerful and versatile ship. U.S. aircraft carriers - floating airfields and cannot operate outside the AOG, air defense, anti-ship, anti-ship and strategic-strike weapons are carried by other vessels of the compound. The cruiser is capable of completing a combat mission on its own.

[alexmach]

Air defense? and what kind of Kuzi air defense besides airplanes? Daggers or what?
12 missiles as of now is almost nothing.

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: alexmach

Air defense? and what kind of Kuzi air defense besides airplanes? Daggers or what?

Well, air defense (or missile defense, to be more precise, the blacksmiths is designed to protect against anti-ship missiles attacking it) is very good - here are Daggers, Daggers, and metal cutters .. this distinguishes the ship from the US Air Force without overloading it with additional equipment.

[alexmach]

And .. there is also a "Dagger" and separate "metal cutting". Really diverse short-range missile defense

[hrych]

Quote: alexmach

12 missiles as of now is almost nothing.

It depends on what. Semi-megaton Granite is a terrible tool so far. Now they will of course be replaced, but with Caliber, you can burn a city, a base, a connection of ships at a distance of a couple of thousand or more kilometers.

[I doubt it]

Quote: hrych

So far, all aircraft carriers of India ... and China ... are made by us

Only in Russia there is nothing and is not expected. And yes, we are proud of course.

Quote: hrych

... Soon, at least 4 aircraft-carrying cruisers ... will threaten American interests.

Rather ours. America will survive. Does Pacific Fleet have something to oppose?

Quote: hrych

... Kuznetsov, carries 12 anti-ship missiles ... supersonic Onyxes and hypersonic Zircons

It would be better if he carried the Yak-44, a few pieces ... There would be much more benefit.

Quote: hrych

... In essence, it will be the most powerful and versatile ship. US aircraft carriers - floating airfields ...

Everything universal is obviously worse than special. The floating airfield will reliably cover the squad of ships. "The most powerful and versatile," no. Just based on the qualitative and quantitative composition of the wing. And air is a very serious argument.

Quote: hrych

... The cruiser is capable of completing a combat mission on its own.

In our reality, yes. To send a huge ship without combat guard - this is ours! And he will carry out the combat mission on his own. Most likely for the first and last time .... "Without interaction, there is no victory!"

[hrych]

Quote: I doubt it

And he will carry out the combat mission on his own. Most likely for the first and last time ...

Caliber and again Caliber Do not even go into the active zone of the anti-ship defense of the enemy

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: hrych

The cruiser is capable of completing a combat mission on its own.

The cruiser has NO combat missions, which he perform independently. Its key task is to provide air defense of diverse forces striking at AUG

[hrych]

Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk

The cruiser has NO combat missions, which he perform independently.

Cruiser - a class of surface combat ships capable of completing missions regardless of the main fleet ... He is by definition

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: hrych

He is by definition

Sorry, but guided by this logic it’s easy to prove ... well, for example, take TSB

Ship - In modern Russian, the term "K." applied to military vessels of all classes

Does this mean that a torpedo boat can be called a battleship? :))))
I'll tell you more - in the marine dictionary

A ship - (gr. - karabos) - the same as a ship, i.e. floating facility for the transport of passengers and goods, water craft, mining, as well as for military purposes

.
That is, the battleship we have, by definition, a little more and a tourist liner
In general, be nice and do not pull words out of context. "Kuznetsov" is not a cruiser, but a heavy aircraft-carrying cruiser, from this and push off in search of definitions :)

[hrych]

Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk

In general, be nice and do not pull words out of context.

He undoubtedly provides air defense, FFP and PLO to the compound, but why do you refuse him to yourself?

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

(thinking) But would you write me a short series of statistics about our one and only?

[hrych]

Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk

But do not write me a small series of statistics about our one and only?

We ask, we ask!

[aszzz888]

The commander of the Federation Council of the Russian Federation noted that the participation of the Admiral Kuznetsov TAVKR in distant campaigns in the near future is not planned.

... well, if they plan to disassemble and modernize, then what kind of "long-distance hikes" he ... for a long time at the pier ...

[Jedi]

For want of otherwise, this needs to be modernized. But it’s easier to put into scrap metal - go ask Ukraine.

[Going]

Maxim, good afternoon! too many who want to cut it, why would it?

[Jedi]

Hello Victor! From the fact that some were told that Russia does not need an aircraft carrier, from the word "in general."

[Going]

And who will ask them, let them sit straight. Here are the indicators:

Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk

I read the comments, and just "admire". People are expensive, at least take Wikipedia and see when Kuznetsov was being repaired.
The ship has been in operation since 1991. The first repair - 1996-8, not serious, was delayed due to lack of funding
The year 2001-04 is in average repair. Again, it could be done much faster, they would give money on time
2008 - 7 months in repair
2015 - 4 months in repair
2016 - 6 months in repair
From 1991 g to 2017 g, for a second, 26 years have passed NO REPAIR! And in other repairs the ship stood for less than 7 years, i.e. less than 28% of the total time, and that is mainly in the 90-th beginning of the 2000-x because there was no money and repairs were drawn to infinity. Yes, any US AB will be jealous of him, with such a KOH

[Jedi]

I fully support Andrei from Chelyabinsk and plus him!

[Going]

So everything will be fine with Kuzey, he will still serve.

[Jedi]

To spite all the spiteful critics and buryers.

[Going]

Yes, nobody pays attention to them, let the United States continue to envy.

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Thank:))))

[mvg]

A couple of months in service, he drowned a couple of fighters, inflicted "unacceptable damage" on Daesh and again, to his "native" place, in the dry dock, for repairs. Another 40+ billion rubles to swell.
He is being repaired, modernized and will show the adversaries "Kuzma Mama".
PS: It’s too rude in the way.

[sogdy]

Quote: Going

And who will ask them, let them sit straight. Here are the indicators:

Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
I read the comments, and just "admire". People are expensive, at least take Wikipedia and see when Kuznetsov was being repaired.
The ship has been in operation since 1991. The first repair - 1996-8, not serious, was delayed due to lack of funding
The year 2001-04 is in average repair. Again, it could be done much faster, they would give money on time
2008 - 7 months in repair
2015 - 4 months in repair
2016 - 6 months in repair
From 1991 to 2017, for a second, 26 years have passed NONE OF THE REPAIR! And in other repairs the ship stood for less than 7 years, i.e. less than 28% of the total time, and that is mainly in the 90s of the beginning of the 2000s because there was no money and repairs dragged on to infinity. Yes, any US AB will be jealous of him, with such a KOH-oh laughing

[Jack O'Neill]

Yes, cut it and forget it. But Avik (full), of course, is necessary if we want to be in the ocean as a maritime power.
It is easier to build a new full-fledged avik than to tinker with Kuzey. Shake the servants of the people, there will be money.

[St Petrov]

It’s easier to build a new full-fledged avik than to mess with Kuzey.

start with afternoon

Shake the servants of the people, and there will be money.

money is even less than half the trouble

[Greenwood]

Quote: Jack O'Neill

Yes, cut it and forget it.

It’s better to sell to Hindus or Iran.

[sogdy]

Quote: Greenwood

Greenwood

I'm still very interested in the origin of the South African nickname. Moreover, the time of apartheid.

[Greenwood]

Quote: sogdy

origin of the South African nickname. Moreover, the time of apartheid.

What?

[sogdy]

International fame has only one Greenwood - diamond mines.

[Greenwood]

Quote: sogdy

International fame

Hmm ...

Quote: sogdy

has only one Greenwood - diamond mines.

Well, at least there is Johnny Greenwood, the guitarist of Radiohead (they've heard about such a lover). And a couple of cities in the USA with the same name, a business center in Moscow, a hookah in St. Petersburg, a spa in Novosib, etc.
And also a car:

My nickname is in honor of him.

[Jack O'Neill]

Greenwoodwelcome

It’s better to sell to Hindus or Iran.

As an option, even cut down the money.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Jack O'Neill

Yes, cut it and forget it.

How was it done with TU-160? You, my friend, are not 90-e live under mattresses to saw what was not created by you.

[Jack O'Neill]

How was it done with TU-160? You, my friend, are not 90-e live under mattresses to saw what was not created by you.

And why on a ship that is constantly being repaired?
Tu-160 is a completely different opera ...

[NEXUS]

Quote: Jack O'Neill

And why on a ship that is constantly being repaired?

That repair will be carried out, then we'll talk why and why.

[Jack O'Neill]

Already carried out ...

[Mihanishche]

Well done boys! In principle, an excellent aircraft carrier should turn out. Moreover, armed as a cruiser !!!
The Americans still cannot solve this issue, but ours have already done so.

[donavi49]

What can they not decide? 72 aircraft versus 18 - with displacement of 100 and 62 tons. Respectively. At the same time, the number of 72 - includes AWACS aircraft, as well as Hornets that take off at maximum take-off. The 18 includes the MiGi-29K and Su-33 - which take off not at the maximum take-off (only from the 3 position that is not used).

I am already silent about the timings of the work of the group. In fact, the Americans throw out the entire group very quickly - and then normally accept it. At night or in the afternoon. Kuzi’s is complicated. As soon as they began to work tightly - immediately the drowned men went. And even design timings and close to the Americans do not reach.

Rest? Design - yes Kuzya was supposed to be half of Kirov's striking power. But in fact - it did not need to be. And the complex was killed on a specific ship. And in general, they try to push through its clipping and alteration for various useful things - as the Chinese did on the Varyag / Liaolin.

Air defense - and Nimitz is also a near zone is not bad. But the American concept involves the use of an aircraft carrier as part of a large ship group. Destroyers and cruisers - will cope with air targets, help the air group destroy ground and ship targets. In the aircraft carrier itself - all emphasis is placed on a powerful aviation wing, high autonomy in the database, high frequency of departures. To the detriment of the rest - which falls on the shoulders of the ship's group. Kuzya is a universal soldier - who himself must fight with everyone. Hence, in each component separately - it is weak. According to the project. Now it’s getting worse.

[sogdy]

Quote: donavi49

72 aircraft

with a range of 500 km.

Quote: donavi49

against 18

with a range of 2000 km.
About armament finally can be a little bit.
And the tasks are different. Guess twice?

[donavi49]

Um, what are you talking about? On the contrary, the MiGs are not very good - and the Su-33 or the fuel and 2 are the SD + 2 R-73 missiles or the combat load, but the fuel is minimum. Exception 3 position.

The Hornet has combat 400 miles, range 1000 miles, ferry 1800 miles. Plus they can add fuel by the forces of the air group. At Kuzi - only MiG-29K can do that.

[sogdy]

Quote: donavi49

Um, what are you talking about? On the contrary, the MiG is not very - and the Su-33

I mean, you can’t even guess from two times ... Funny people. With pretty funny data.

[hrych]

Let's start with the main one, Kuznetsov, an aircraft-carrying cruiser, and not an aircraft carrier, with all that it implies ...
Secondly, Kuznetsov is assigned to the Northern Fleet, where the enemy’s aircraft carriers do not stupidly sail at all, and he has tasks that the Northern Fleet solves there, for which it was created, and not for copying US tactics, by the presence and dominance of the southern trading bottlenecks paths like the Strait of Malacca with Singapore, the Persian Gulf with the Strait of Hormuz, etc. Weapons are created for specific tasks, and not just to be or stupidly, like a neighbor. The main task of the Northern Fleet and, accordingly, Kuznetsov is to cover boats carrying ICBMs, and so on trifles. It does not need a large number of aircraft, but it needs the capabilities of anti-aircraft defense, air defense and anti-aircraft defense, and he has everything for this, and the appearance of strategic Caliber gives him a bonus in delivering a nuclear strike in Northern Europe for a couple and a half thousand kilometers, for from Murmansk to London one and a half thousand kilometers

[Kyzmich]

People, aren't you tired of repeating an air carrier cruiser?
By golly.
The appearance of the aircraft carrier has long been formed.
This is a ship with a developed left sponson, an offset setting and having devices to ensure takeoff and landing of aircraft.
What is armed with this type of ship, except for aircraft, the wishes of the customer.

[hrych]

Quote: Kyzmich

People, are you tired of repeating the aircraft carrying the cruiser? ... What is armed with this type of ship, except for the planes, the wishes of the customer.

This time the nomenclature of TAVKR was not invented by us. And the customer’s desire is Hindus alone. But he was Gorshkov, where there was air defense, anti-aircraft defense, and anti-aircraft defense, making him a cruiser. The Chinese bought an entertainment center for allegedly and piled up themselves, but is also classified as an aircraft-carrying cruiser.

[Kyzmich]

I remember the infamous USS CV-59 "Forestol" in the beginning also had a battery of a dozen 127 mm guns. And from its predecessors, artillery was comparable to battleships.
From the very beginning of the creation of all these aircraft carriers, they all belonged to the class of cruisers and to this day in the classifier of the US Navy they remain so, bearing the letter CV
Cruiser Voler is like a cruiser with heavier-than-air aircraft (airplanes) by te-airplanes.
Other designations: AV. AVD. AVP.ACV.CVA.CVAN.CVB .CVE .CVHA .CVHE .CVL.CVN.CVS.CVT - almost not used today.
True to the CV was added the letter N-nuclear installation.

[hrych]

Quote: Kyzmich

From the very beginning of the creation of all these aircraft carriers, they all belonged to the class of cruisers and to this day in the classifier of the US Navy they remain so, bearing the letter CV

Although their aircraft carrier and floating airfield operate as part of the AUG, but ... the air wing itself can provide both air defense, anti-aircraft defense and anti-aircraft defense, and strike at the enemy, including the coast. Those. in theory, he really can fulfill the task of the cruiser himself, as an independent combat unit operating without a connection. Therefore, the American aircraft carriers can safely be attributed to the nomenclature of the aircraft carrier cruiser, which you confirmed by citing their designations

[Kyzmich]

That is. Admiral Kuznetsov TAKR is the same air carrier cruiser as USS Nimitz (CVN-68) judging by the shock capabilities of self-defense means?
Well, is he not a destroyer?
Although the USA had such plans in the 70s.
They were very much impressed by our pr 1143.

[Sewer krainiy]

Carriers through the Bosphorus and Dardanelles are prohibited. Our first aircraft carriers were built in Nikolaev (Black Sea). Therefore, for their access to the ocean, they were called TAKR (heavy aircraft carrier cruiser).

[Town Hall]

Quote: Sewer Krainiy

Carriers through the Bosphorus and Dardanelles are prohibited. Our first aircraft carriers were built in Nikolaev (Black Sea). Therefore, for their access to the ocean, they were called TAKR (heavy aircraft carrier cruiser).

How interesting ... and if the Americans call their aircraft carriers cruisers..that will pass through the straits?


PS Do not tell me which article of which contract allegedly prohibits the straits of aircraft carriers?

[Kyzmich]

The Montreux Straits Convention does not prohibit aircraft carriers from passing through the straits.
It prohibits the passage of warships over 10000 tons of displacement for countries non-Black Sea region.
There are no restrictions for the countries of the Black Sea region.
The only flight prohibited during passage of the straits.
So. That this version is from the field of legends.

[Kyzmich]

You say that with "Kuznetsov take off not with full combat load?
Can you name exactly which take off?
Figures please.
The composition of the wing - in fact 14 Su-33 and 14 MiG 29K., Not including helicopters.
For your information, this is the optimal quantitative composition of the wing of any aircraft carrier in the United States.
Of course, you can listen to fairy tales about 120 sorties a day, as a show without BN and with empty tanks.

[Kyzmich]

I want to note that in no country are aircraft built and put into service like the US Navy.
Build. Just like the "Kuznetsova" with a springboard start.
And Britain’s latest HMS "Queen Elizabeth" in fact a truncated version of "Kuznetsov"
True, there is a mini aircraft carrier, and even with a nuclear power plant in France ...
But you can’t look at him without laughing.
Especially considering its horse value, comparable to the USS Nimitz))

[Ihrek]

It all depends on how efficiently the funds are spent. And by and large, repair is better than building a new one for modern Russia (as always, there is no money, well, at least the people still hold on).

[sogdy]

Quote: Ihrek

It all depends on how efficiently the funds are spent.

So it has already been discussed. "And they don’t give time for completion!" (c) (Cleopatra's Quest / Cleopatra's Mission)

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

I read the comments, and just "admire". People are expensive, at least take Wikipedia and see when Kuznetsov was being repaired.
The ship has been in operation since 1991. The first repair - 1996-8, not serious, was delayed due to lack of funding
The year 2001-04 is in average repair. Again, it could be done much faster, they would give money on time
2008 - 7 months in repair
2015 - 4 months in repair
2016 - 6 months in repair
From 1991 g to 2017 g, for a second, 26 years have passed NO REPAIR! And in other repairs the ship stood for less than 7 years, i.e. less than 28% of the total time, and that is mainly in the 90-th beginning of the 2000-x because there was no money and repairs were drawn to infinity. Yes, any US AB will be jealous of him, with such a KOH

[SPACE]

Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk

From 1991 g to 2017 g, for a second, 26 years have passed NO REPAIR! And in other repairs the ship stood for less than 7 years, i.e. less than 28% of the total time, and that is mainly in the 90-th beginning of the 2000-x because there was no money and repairs were drawn to infinity. Yes, any US AB will be jealous of him, with such a KOH

The ship is standing, but the service is!
Z.Y. TAVKR "Admiral Kuznetsov" PERFECT Aircraft Carrier! There were smart people in the USSR. Pros: 1. Boiler turbine! only stupid followers of Ilona Mask laugh here, and TAVKR and where you need it a couple of times in your life on wood! 2. Self-flying aircraft! Puff not puff, but This is the future! what for then Americans F-35V? 3. Missile, this is not your guarded floating workshop Nimitz))), it’s also the Missile Cruiser! And also own air defense, PLO! In general, and without co-justification, he wants to be whipped up. This is the best aircraft carrier in America, but Kuznetsov is the best and undisputed! Cons: Yes, they simply do not! Russia doesn’t need “aircraft-carrying troughs” like Ford, no atomic ones, this is the lot of Peter-1 cruisers, no 90 planes, as the Americans say, “if 6 is not enough, then 36 is also not enough! And you don’t need any atomic steam and electric catapult carriers))) three more, exactly the same!

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

What was that all about? :)

[mvg]

Andrey, he didn’t go anywhere! Just stood on the bank. Combat exercises - single voyage and melee air defense. For 26 years - the first military miracle trip. To make it - cannibalism and repair. What about weapons? Su'shki with a combat load of 2 tons? Without a normal avionics, central control and refueling?

[Alexey-74]

And deal with the runway and the ropes.

[Sergey53]

I think about the aircraft braking system will not be forgotten. Two aircraft lost, I think enough.

[Kyzmich]

the problem there is not in the braking system, but in braking in the brains of command and organization of flights.
The MiG could be refueled, sent to a ground base, there is a distance of not 100km.
The second accident is a pilot error.
For 16 years this is just the third incident.
Against the backdrop of accidents, our "friends" simply have nothing.

[Vik66]

The main process has begun. By the way, look at the exemplary condition of the territory of the plant.

And what, will they repair it right near the mooring wall? A dry dock and all that? Why I ask - not a sailor even once, but I thought overhaul - this is a more time-consuming task and requires certain conditions.

[sogdy]

Quote: Vik66

A dry dock and all that?

And how will you post? At this length, the metal is flexible.

[Vik66]

And how it was built - on stocks, they should be repaired. And clean the shell from shells, so that to add a couple of knots to the move, paint and all that ...

[sogdy]

Quote: Vik66

And how it was built - on the stocks,

This mount the pelvis itself. Then they launch it into the water, drag it out, take off all the stresses and begin assembling the bulkheads, offal and the outside.

[Vik66]

And not a large assembly?

[sogdy]

Quote: Vik66

And not a large assembly?

Quote: sogdy

And how will you post?

It seems that you are not an installer even once.

[q75agent]

Quote: Vik66

The main process has begun. By the way, look at the exemplary condition of the territory of the plant.
And what, will they repair it right near the mooring wall? A dry dock and all that? Why I ask - not a sailor even once, but I thought overhaul - this is a more time-consuming task and requires certain conditions.

there is a dry dock for him, in the village of Roslyakova I used to be based earlier, where I don’t know now, I did military service on the Kuze 1993-1995 and we stood in the dock, the boilers were already undergoing repairs, who if I served should remember how they dragged fuel oil in buckets .....

[magadan72]

it amazes me when our Kuznetsov is compared with American aircraft carriers. Do not let the Lord bring them or do we all agree with NATO in the conflict. With such a problem, Kuznetsov and the fleet in general will be in the harbor. Well, a sensible man will drive the fleet to slaughter (though I don’t think that the enemy’s fleet will come closer to us). But it’s NECESSARY to fix and make an ordinary aircraft carrier !!! It’s good that there is a place in Syria on land for an air base. Otherwise, there would be problems, they would lose Syria. Russia needs an aircraft carrier to solve local geopolitical problems far from the homeland. It should be protected by AUG cover ships. Well, our first-born didn’t work out for us! But it’s quite possible to upgrade it. Judging by the photo, the boilers will be replaced on it. This is a half measure. I think that it is necessary to allocate space and install auxiliary boilers for desalination plants and general shipboard needs. It is known from the open press that KTU is overloaded at full speed. Replace turbine generators with modern diesel generators, steam pump drives (if any) with electric ones. This will slightly relieve the load from the power plant. To lighten the ship as much as possible - for example, remove non-working locators,. ГАК polynomial from the bulb and optimize the nose tip in order to improve the hull contours. Remove the Granite strike complex. it is not needed either for naval combat, or for work along the coast. Airplanes are more efficient, cheaper, longer-range. Establish a second long-range start. Near positions are useless. You can remove daggers and set preparatory positions for aircraft in their places. You can shorten the setting to facilitate and for additional aircraft positions. Have several airplane regiments for rotating equipment and crews. We will have a not very light aircraft carrier as part of the AUG.

[sogdy]

Send the proposal to the General Staff. Remember to attach planes.

[Kyzmich]

Where does such knowledge come from?
On "Kuznetsovo" are standard evaporators (desalination plants), if not mistaken 4 pieces.
Tasks of their "boil" water for boilers.
There are tanks for drinking water.
And why didn’t the turbogenerators please you?
It has 9 turbo generators and six auxiliary diesel generators.
Typical composition of generating capacity for this type of ship worldwide.
And what kind of steam drive pumps (which) are you setting out here?
The pumps are electric.
Steam I do not remember))
The power of the power plant in it is two more than that of the Queen Elizabeth with similar sizes and tonnage.
Just this type of power plant requires scheduled repairs, every 8 years.
And there weren’t 27 of them at Kuznetsov.

[Alexander Petrov1]

Fool !? Why was it necessary to rebuild for India, and now without an aircraft carrier on the go, and the price is just 3 billion dollars, they steal from us ten times more!? Shame !?

[Petrol cutter]

For lovers of large dishes. I got into repair and as they say, the revolution has a beginning, the revolution has no end! ...

[Old26]

Quote: Chertt

Well this is ridiculous. It was under repair for so many years, then, with grief in half, it sailed into the Mediterranean Sea. And again, a long-term repair. It may be more appropriate to write off from the existing composition of the Navy, and use it as a training

So write off or use as a training?

[dvvv]

I think from his campaign to Syria there was one benefit and this understanding that Russia does not have aircraft carriers and there is no aircraft for them. It would be better if he did not go there and did not disgrace. just spending money and drowned two pitches

[Kyzmich]

Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk

In general, be nice and do not pull words out of context. "Kuznetsov" is not a cruiser, but a heavy aircraft-carrying cruiser, from this and push off in search of definitions :)

I can surprise you. All aircraft carriers of the U.S. Navy belong to the class of cruisers.
This is reminded by the letter on the "CV" superstructure, the first letter "C" cruiser, in combination with the second means a cruiser with airplanes.
But, strangely, this type of ship can operate only as part of the AUG (squadron)
And about the cruiser you were given an absolutely accurate definition.
You started demagoguery, shaking TSB here and confusing the definition of "ship" and "cruiser"
Your definition of the role of an aircraft carrier as part of a naval group is also not true.
The times when aircraft carriers carried out narrow missions have long passed, and to this day they are multi-purpose — shock and missile defense, PLO assigned mainly to the ships of the group.
The same applies to the composition of carrier-based aircraft, assault groups (A7-A-9) and individual air defense (F-14) are removed.
Previously, these were three separate squadrons.
To date, all these tasks are performed by the fighter-bomber and attack aircraft F / A-18 (F / A-18E / F) in one person.