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The US Navy assessed the chances of survival of the crew of the Argentine diesel-electric submarines

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The crew of the Argentine submarine "San Juan" as part of 44 people still have a chance for "extreme survival", despite the fact that 15 days have passed since the connection with the ship was terminated, reports RIA News statement by the representative of the Southern Command of the US Navy Eric Reynolds.




The fact that so much time has passed works against (survival), but there is always the possibility of extreme survival,
told Reynolds.

However, he noted that "you should not speculate on the number of days during which the crew can stay alive."

The search and rescue mission is still ongoing,
reminded Reynolds.

Formerly former Baltic commander fleet (2001-2006) Admiral Vladimir Valuev made the assumption that the catastrophe could have occurred due to the exploded hydrogen that was released from the batteries. At the same time, according to him, chlorine was formed, which could cause the death of people on board.

Chlorine could be formed due to the ingress of seawater into the hull when the boat floated to recharge the batteries to the periscope depth and was in the mode of diesel operation under water (RDP),
explained Valuev.

Accumulators under the influence of water could release this suffocating gas, from which people could die,
added on.

Recall, the submarine "San Juan" stopped communicating on November 15 communications at the transition from the naval base of Ushuaia to Mar del Plata. Representatives of the Navy also reported on a single explosion, which may be associated with the disappearance of diesel-electric submarines.
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  1. Jedi
    Jedi 30 November 2017 09: 14 New
    +7
    The US Navy assessed the chances of survival of the crew of the Argentine diesel-electric submarines

    Maybe it’s enough to PR already on the tragedy ??? negative
    1. 1331M
      1331M 30 November 2017 09: 19 New
      +5
      What is the PR here? They just evaluate the team’s chances. "but there is always the possibility of extreme survival"
      1. The black
        The black 30 November 2017 09: 23 New
        +8
        Evaluate - not evaluating, but the chances are practically equal to ZERO .... in my opinion everyone already understands this
        1. Ragnar Lodbrok
          Ragnar Lodbrok 30 November 2017 09: 29 New
          +9
          Argentina at least immediately attracted foreign experts! Unlike ours, which to the last drowned our submariners. I'm talking about Kursk!
          1. Going
            Going 30 November 2017 09: 33 New
            +7
            Quote: Jedi
            The US Navy assessed the chances of survival of the crew of the Argentine diesel-electric submarines

            Maybe it’s enough to PR already on the tragedy ??? negative

            Maxim, good morning! hi Unfortunately, nothing sacred, everywhere they seek profit.
            1. Jedi
              Jedi 30 November 2017 09: 37 New
              +4
              Hello Victor! hi
              Quote: Going
              Unfortunately, nothing sacred, everywhere they seek profit.

              As always, nothing new. sad
            2. Piramidon
              Piramidon 30 November 2017 13: 21 New
              +1
              Quote: Going
              Unfortunately, nothing sacred, everywhere they seek profit.

              Well, what's the PR, and the benefits? They simply painted the chances of the crew surviving. Why, if it sounded from a pindostan, then immediately PR, benefit ...? They also have experience in rescue operations. You need to be a little more objective, and not to sprinkle with sweeping accusations just because you do not like stellar stripes ..
          2. The black
            The black 30 November 2017 09: 36 New
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            Quote: Ragnar lodbrok
            Argentina at least immediately attracted foreign experts! Unlike ours, which to the last drowned our submariners. I'm talking about Kursk!

            From which of yours? .... It was practically impossible to help the crew of the Kursk .... but about "attracted - did not attract" ... On the 13th (in a day) Kursk was found, and on the 20th accidents have already worked Norwegians ...
            1. Going
              Going 30 November 2017 09: 39 New
              +9
              You can not compare sour and crooked, nothing in common.
          3. igorka357
            igorka357 30 November 2017 11: 30 New
            +3
            What are you talking about? There, as soon as Kursk was found, three days later the norgs were already ..
          4. Veteran
            Veteran 30 November 2017 17: 24 New
            +7
            Right away ?? The boat disappeared on November 15, and the Argentines have been searching since then only on their own. On November 17, other states offered them help, but they were silent until 18 when they agreed. Only on 18 on November did the US Poseidon fly out in search, and the United Kingdom sent its polar ship to the search area. And almost the main foreign aid earned in the search area after almost a week.
      2. siberalt
        siberalt 30 November 2017 09: 56 New
        0
        Miracle also happens. Maybe someone from the crew fell into suspended animation. belay
    2. rotmistr60
      rotmistr60 30 November 2017 09: 19 New
      +3
      Americans need to be noted.
      there is always the possibility of extreme survival
      Probably great specialists in extreme survival, but only in their films. The possibility exists, but not when the survival rate is doubled.
      1. Jedi
        Jedi 30 November 2017 09: 22 New
        +4
        Gennady, welcome! hi
        Quote: rotmistr60
        Americans need to be noted.

        Instead of talking rooms, it would be better to focus on the search.
        1. rotmistr60
          rotmistr60 30 November 2017 09: 25 New
          +3
          Maxim, welcome! hi What, what, and give advice to other Americans with bread do not feed.
          1. Jedi
            Jedi 30 November 2017 09: 28 New
            +4
            Quote: rotmistr60
            What, what, and give advice to other Americans with bread do not feed.

            They forget Chinese wisdom that you do not need to give advice until you are asked about them.
    3. pvv113
      pvv113 30 November 2017 10: 18 New
      +3
      Hi, Max! It seems to me that with this statement, Americans are thinking of getting away from that explosion. hi
      1. Jedi
        Jedi 30 November 2017 10: 20 New
        +4
        Volodya, hello! hi
        Quote: pvv113
        With this statement, Americans are thinking of getting away from that explosion.

        I’ll tell you more: they also manage to drag Russia to the death of a submarine, remember my words. yes
        1. pvv113
          pvv113 30 November 2017 10: 37 New
          +3
          Without this, nothing, and the test tube will be shown!
          1. Jedi
            Jedi 30 November 2017 10: 39 New
            +4
            Quote: pvv113
            and the test tube will show!

            And the same one. belay
            1. pvv113
              pvv113 30 November 2017 10: 41 New
              +3
              Why strain and look for a new one? I still wonder why they do not shake the same test tube in the matter of doping Russian athletes
              1. Jedi
                Jedi 30 November 2017 10: 45 New
                +4
                This test tube is finally universal: in the history of chemical weapons in Syria, it was also supposed to appear. wassat
                1. pvv113
                  pvv113 30 November 2017 10: 48 New
                  +4
                  On the ruins of Washington we will establish a monument to this test tube wink
                  1. Jedi
                    Jedi 30 November 2017 10: 52 New
                    +4
                    Just not the work of Tsereteli, otherwise he will pile a test tube that is as tall as the Empire State Building. lol
                    1. pvv113
                      pvv113 30 November 2017 10: 53 New
                      +3
                      Then vice versa - you need to instruct him so that you can see from afar wink
                      1. Jedi
                        Jedi 30 November 2017 10: 55 New
                        +4
                        If it is sculpted from local concrete - let it frolic, so be it ...
                    2. pvv113
                      pvv113 30 November 2017 10: 58 New
                      +3
                      He doesn’t even have to strain, but hewn the statue of liberty to the desired shape laughing
                      1. Svarog51
                        Svarog51 30 November 2017 12: 37 New
                        +7
                        Volodya, Max, I welcome hi Here’s the Statue of Liberty, instead of the torch, it’s high time to put the TEST in your hand, it will be more true. wink
  2. komvap
    komvap 30 November 2017 09: 41 New
    +4
    It’s good that we have a rescue vessel of the project 21300 “Dolphin” - “Igor Belousov” - designed to help the crews of emergency submarines lying on the ground or in the water position, supply air, electricity and rescue equipment to submarines and surface ships. In addition, the vessel can search and examine emergency facilities. Displacement - 5 thousand tons, length - over 100 meters.
    And very bad. that the second such vessel is delayed until 2023, but they need at least 4 - according to the number of fleets with submarines.
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 30 November 2017 10: 27 New
      +3
      This ship cannot help in any way - for it stands at home. Amber went if that. The main problem there is not in the vehicles (the Americans have already fitted their lifeguard) - but in the fact that the boat must be found. And it is very difficult. For it is necessary to scan the bottom on the area 700x200km.
      1. Captain Pushkin
        Captain Pushkin 30 November 2017 11: 06 New
        0
        Quote: donavi49
        . The main problem there is not in the vehicles (the Americans have already fitted their lifeguard) - but in the fact that the boat must be found. And it is very difficult. For it is necessary to scan the bottom on an area of ​​700x200km.

        At one time, the Americans were able to track down their Scorpio boat in the middle of the Atlantic, and our boat in the Pacific Ocean at a depth of 6000 meters was not only found, but raised ...
        The Americans are getting smaller ...
        1. sharp-lad
          sharp-lad 30 November 2017 22: 38 New
          +1
          Do not tell me how much time they spent searching?
          They searched for the sunken boat for 5 months; more than 60 ships and vessels, up to 30 aircraft, were involved in the search. A week after the start of the search, a German submarine sunk during the Second World War was discovered 100 miles from Norfolk. The search was in vain for a long time, until the missing information was unexpectedly obtained on the shore - as a result of the analysis of the records of the hydroacoustic anti-submarine defense stations, a signal was found characteristic of the destruction of the solid hull of the boat by hydrostatic pressure. After determining the location of the signal source, the search area was limited to 12 by 12 miles, the coordinates of the place of death - 33 ° 40′23 ″ s. w. 32 ° 35′06 ″ s d.HGYAO [3]. Soon the boat was found at a depth of 3047 meters and photographed by the ship "Mizar". Subsequently, the area of ​​death was examined by the bathyscaphe “Triest-2” [
  3. Jack O'Neill
    Jack O'Neill 30 November 2017 09: 51 New
    +1
    I hope that the sailors will save.
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 30 November 2017 10: 26 New
      +4
      Boat not found. And judging by the search area 700x200km - another month she will not be found with a high degree of probability.
  4. RUSOIVAN
    RUSOIVAN 30 November 2017 10: 58 New
    +2
    No chance. Otherwise, the rescuers would have heard them. Rest in peace.
  5. Bronevick
    Bronevick 30 November 2017 11: 10 New
    0
    It's like a Schrödinger cat.
  6. bald
    bald 30 November 2017 11: 41 New
    +1
    As the saying goes, Hope, but you need to look - at least a year will take. He looked, the depths are within, within 600 m, unless of course accurate information on the transition.
  7. pvv113
    pvv113 30 November 2017 14: 41 New
    +2
    Svarog51,
    Sergey, welcome! I agree, this is the most competent use of this statue! good
  8. Normal ok
    Normal ok 30 November 2017 15: 28 New
    +1
    My sincere condolences to those close to me. You will not wish anyone such a death - to suffocate under water.