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"The Russian elites are shown their place and are doing it very effectively."

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Russia is no longer the winner of the Olympics in Sochi. From the International Olympic Committee (IOC) almost daily receive news that the next Russian athlete was deprived of the Olympic medal. This is the result of an unexpected continuation of the doping scandal. Only recently it seemed that the world had already forgotten all these stories about FSB officers substituting doping tests, test tubes with scratches. However, exactly under the presidential election in Russia, suddenly began the dismantling of one of the main achievements of the third term of Vladimir Putin - Sochi-2014. However, the left publicist, sociologist Boris Kagarlitsky is sure that the problem is not Putin. So the Russian elites are once again shown where their place is in the Western hierarchy.


Question: The attack on the Russian Olympians is just a bureaucratic job, they say, they immediately began to check and now, finally, they found violations or was it a targeted action?

Boris Kagarlitsky: First, yes, we see how through international institutions, which are to some extent controlled by the West, there is a systematic campaign against Russia on all fronts. And this is quite logical. Secondly, yes, this campaign is going on, as you yourself called it - in the format of bureaucratic work. They do not just arbitrarily take and some unfounded claims are rolling out, but they are working on the question, and where they can prove, they are already making claims.

Then a third moment arises: you don’t need to be substituted.

Of course, Russian athletes, like Russian businessmen, are purposefully pursuing, keeping them under the microscope. But the fact remains that the claims that are made are justified. Maybe some other country will not be treated this way. We do not know what the problems of Nigerian, for example, athletes. Perhaps, there are some absolutely unfounded claims. Everything can be, only now Russian check more carefully and aggressively. At the same time, the bureaucracy works in such a way that every time it needs to substantiate the claims and get evidence, arrange all the charges in the right way. Bureaucratic work is proceeding and it is becoming more and more difficult to fight back in each particular case, especially since they have some kind of soil.

"The Russian elites are shown their place and are doing it very effectively."


Question: But somehow it turns out that all this large-scale bureaucratic work ends just under the presidential election. Is the dismantling of one of the main achievements of Putin’s last term taking place?

Boris Kagarlitsky: It is clear that everything is done meaningfully. I want to say something else, that if you know that you will be looked at under a microscope, then you should not allow any obvious unfair actions.

The Russian elites are now shown their place in the international system and are doing it, in my opinion, very effectively.

They linked all their ambitions with good relations with the West.

What is happening now is not a question of the attitudes of those and other Western politicians, it is a question of the political economy of Russian capitalism.

The Russian system is thus organized that earned or stolen money (which, by the way, is not so important) can be effectively invested only through Western institutions. The key point here. There is no Russia, and under the current social and economic system there can be no effective mechanism for investing big money. Therefore, all the money that will be received in Russia, they can be effectively invested only through the global market. Once you are in conflict with the owners of the global market, these opportunities disappear.



Question: Is it possible to predict the next goal, to draw up the entire roadmap of the dismantling of Putin’s achievements, which will destroy? Today is the Olympics in Sochi, and then?

Boris Kagarlitsky: The problem is not Putin. Putin is a symbolic figure that the West needs to justify its struggle for control over Russian resources. In this sense, Putin is very convenient for the West and is very necessary for him. If Putin hadn’t, it’s not quite clear how to justify it, it’s not quite clear how to reinforce the struggle against our regime, if there wasn’t a regime. How to sell it to your public opinion?

Question: And the West does not want to let him go?

Boris Kagarlitsky: Not that he does not want to let go. Just in the circumstances, it is needed and valuable. Another thing, if he does not run, the West will have problems justifying the preservation of sanctions, for example. Of course, they will be saved, but it will not be easy.

Question: But the sanctions were introduced for concrete actions, and not because of Putin.

Boris Kagarlitsky: Actions are also a reason. Sanctions are a way to explain to the Russian elite that it is necessary to reallocate resources. Now, from their point of view, the Russian oligarchy is eating up a disproportionately large chunk. If the issue of redistribution of resources is resolved, then the issues of the Crimea and Donbass will simply be forgotten and that's it.

Question: In this regard, it is logical to see why Trump did not meet with Putin. Especially if we assume that Putin wanted to talk about the new configuration of the Russian authorities. And Trump is not interested already.

Boris Kagarlitsky: Yes, of course. The United States has its own economic interests. I already wrote that in the conditions of a systemic crisis, the only way to keep the system rapidly losing its effectiveness in an inviolable form is a massive injection of additional resources. The liquidation of the USSR and a number of other similar large states gave a serious impetus to Western capitalism. Now there are no such reserves, and we need to return to the countries that are already included in the system of the world division of labor and redistribute resources in them. By the way, during global crises this always happens. The conflict will not be removed until the system changes, or until resources are redistributed.



Question: World Cup will also be selected?

Boris Kagarlitsky: It is difficult to select the World Championship technically. Unless extremely dramatic events happen in Russia that technically make the championship impossible. If the abolition of the World Cup 2018 would be a matter only for the interests of Russia - would have been canceled long ago.

Question: Russia is already talking about an alternative Olympic movement, what do you think - is it real?

Boris Kagarlitsky: Now the Olympic movement is a lot of money, so there is no left-wing idea there for a long time. This is all commerce. The times of Pierre de Coubertin are long gone. Technically, the Olympic movement is the exact opposite of the ideas from which it was born. For example, the current Olympic movement has nothing to do with amateur sports. The current Olympism is a large commercial enterprise, a large commercial system that scrolls huge money. In essence, it is such a transnational corporation.

Alternative Olympic movement - the desire to cut a very large budget.



Question: Well, did you get to create a world event with the World Youth Festival?

Boris Kagarlitsky: And the global scandal turned out, in which Russia looked monstrous. But sawed a huge budget. When an international committee is not allowed and it is not allowed to manage the festival, when fights and scandals begin, protest demonstrations ... The fact that our mass media skillfully hid it from the domestic public is wonderful from the point of view of internal propaganda. But outside this event caused very great damage to Russia. Groups and movements that were ready to work with Russia under certain conditions now consider Russia to be an enemy. It was a crossbow. But the budget sawed crazy. The same story will be with the alternative Olympic Games.
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  1. Razvedka_Boem
    Razvedka_Boem 30 November 2017 05: 57 New
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    Another "all-crawler" ..
    1. SPACE
      SPACE 30 November 2017 11: 13 New
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      Quote: Razvedka_Boem
      Another "all-crawler" ..

      No matter who he is, there is one right moment in what he says!
      but do not substitute

      That's right. In general, without even taking into account the veracity of one of the parties to this conflict, the absolute blame for any lies with the Russian side and there is no point in looking for excuses. Maybe it was an operation from the very beginning from the very beginning, to discredit Rossport, from, from the introduction of the very initiative of using drugs of incomprehensible admissibility, to the front figure of Rodchenkov, in any case, somehow, in fact, one had to think, take into account and assume all the nuances and consequences ...
      1. Kent0001
        Kent0001 2 December 2017 17: 09 New
        +3
        ... and the fact that the budget is being cut for any reason is also true. I don’t know how the 2018 World Cup will pay off, but I think it will not pay off at all taking into account cuts during the construction of stadiums, but it would be better if an oil refinery was built for these grandmothers, otherwise there’s a little repair, because gas prices climb up. Well and so in all directions.
  2. moskowit
    moskowit 30 November 2017 06: 16 New
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    ... the Russian oligarchy is eating a disproportionately large chunk.

    That's it .... Only this "piece" must be turned to the benefit of the Russian State and its peoples.
    1. jjj
      jjj 30 November 2017 12: 55 New
      +4
      Yesterday, one exponential phrase sounded:
      "If the West acts on our elite, through their families, their children, we will change the elite."
      1. Alf
        Alf 30 November 2017 20: 16 New
        +3
        Quote: jjj
        we
        Who is this ?
    2. Kent0001
      Kent0001 2 December 2017 17: 09 New
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      .... never will be. Everything is done for the benefit of the aligarchs.
  3. Nix1986
    Nix1986 30 November 2017 07: 05 New
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    The author got it here, what does the elite’s place indicate ?! The elite keeps and invests money in the west, in offshore Tortugs and the governments of these countries, this is only a plus, if the actions were only against the elites then the sanctions would be ONLY personal in nature, the same SOX allows everyone to track and block anyone who needs what. And no, according to Forbs ratings, our people are not impoverished, but ordinary people, yes. And about the Olympics, and having agreed with the author to agree with us, we decided to take a chance and, for the sake of the personal show of the GDP - victories in our own Olympiad, pump up the athletes with methane, well, they took a chance and noticed it, with garlic. In general, the author cited already known facts.
    1. Palch
      Palch 30 November 2017 11: 02 New
      +9
      "And no, according to Forbs ratings, our people did not go poorer, but simple people yes" - so our elites not only compensated for their losses at the expense of the people, but also increased them !! The author is unambiguously right - they beat the elites, and they even more violently rape the people. The idea is simple - through the greed of those in power, to bring the state of the country to critical and to continue further collapse.
      1. Nix1986
        Nix1986 30 November 2017 11: 12 New
        +7
        Well, if so, then the target was chosen correctly and their scheme works.
    2. Overlock
      Overlock 30 November 2017 11: 45 New
      +1
      if you recall the failures at the Olympics in Canada, then in Sochi I honestly caused surprise. As a former athlete thought about the chemical component. apparently, such thoughts arose not only with me. I believe that the organizers are chem. the attacks believed that Vesmirnash had miscalculated. Now reaping the benefits
    3. AA17
      AA17 30 November 2017 14: 12 New
      +3
      Dear Nix1986. Not so simple "... according to Forbs ratings our people are not poorer ...". A good owner ("West") carefully take care of their cattle (offshore elite). It monitors his weight gain, health, appetite, etc. When the time comes, there will be a slaughter. True, part will be left for reproduction.
      "... Intelligence of the US Ministry of Justice is preparing a report on the foreign assets of senior Russian citizens ..."
      1. Nix1986
        Nix1986 30 November 2017 15: 14 New
        +4
        Well, cattle is slaughtered when the time comes for the bull, and if it’s a cow (oligarchs and politicians), they’re on the run, they eat freebie feed (our bowels and budget), they give high milk yield (offshore), then why cut such a cow ?! It will need to be cut if milk ceases to give or there is a threat that they can steal. Personally, I still do not see such threats, so they will be left to graze.
        1. AA17
          AA17 30 November 2017 16: 22 New
          +1
          "... I do not see such threats yet ..." You are mistaken in thinking so. The arrest of Senator S. Kerimov is a direct threat.
          1. Nix1986
            Nix1986 30 November 2017 16: 40 New
            +3
            This is rather an exception to the rule.
          2. antivirus
            antivirus 30 November 2017 18: 03 New
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            there was a threat: Misha Prokhorov was grabbed by the pocket in Courchevel and nothing happened - he went home. Does he have a Schengen?
    4. Kent0001
      Kent0001 2 December 2017 17: 11 New
      +2
      Somewhere there was infa that kickbacks at the Sochi Olympic facilities exceeded 50 percent. What did this olympiad stand for us in?
  4. samarin1969
    samarin1969 30 November 2017 07: 13 New
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    The author fairly honestly described everything and tried not to "substitute" answering the question "who is to blame?". A rare article on VO.
    1. siberalt
      siberalt 30 November 2017 11: 02 New
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      The owner of the market always wins. We even know little about the "sports" budget of the Russian Federation. There are huge cuts. The author is right. Our sports elite does not want to share stolen from sports according to the "rules". What did the Sochi Olympics or Zenit Arena cost? Absolute world records in value. And with what bumps if half of Russia is below the poverty line? belay
      1. Tula gingerbread
        Tula gingerbread 30 November 2017 11: 21 New
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        Only the sports elite? Does it even have an elite in Russia? The elite is the best in their field, as I understand it. The best in professionalism and moral qualities.
        There is a military elite, there is a scientific elite, there is an engineering, working, and cultural one.
        In my opinion, we are very mistaken when we talk about the bureaucratic elite.
        We do not have a managerial elite, there are officials.
        1. siberalt
          siberalt 30 November 2017 11: 25 New
          +1
          It’s one thing whom we consider to be the elite, and another thing that senior officials and oligarchs consider themselves to be. Well, and whose opinion will outweigh? lol
        2. CONTROL
          CONTROL 30 November 2017 12: 21 New
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          Quote: Tula gingerbread
          Does it even have an elite in Russia? The elite is the best in their field, as I understand it. The best in professionalism and moral qualities ..

          ... the elite, the elite!
          From the statements of our "elite" you can already compile a collection of "cynical bandero quotes"!
          “There is no money, but you hold on!”, “Teachers: - there is not enough salary - but go on to business!”
          “Do you want to be healthy - do not be sick!”, “Russians need to eat less!”, “There is no money, not because they are not paid - but because those who are“ paid ”do not save them! . "," The Russians have too much rest and too little work! We have too many holidays ... it would not hurt to add ... that is, turn it down!
          (MinTrud, if cho ...) "... well, and so on!
          Our elite is not the best, but the worst ... looking at them, an involuntary sensation of some dirt is created ... are they not washed, or what? ...
          1. Tula gingerbread
            Tula gingerbread 1 December 2017 12: 56 New
            +3
            Because they are not the elite, because the worst.
    2. Lopatov
      Lopatov 30 November 2017 11: 13 New
      +4
      Quote: samarin1969
      The author fairly honestly described everything

      No questions, honestly described. 8)))
      However, at the same time he exposed the opponents of the “Russian elites” to be at least not very smart people.
      If, in his opinion, what is happening around sports is a way to tell the elites "they should share incomes", then it was impossible to come up with anything more stupid. Because such actions are more likely to have the opposite effect. 8)))
      Well, the medals were selected that some oligarch will immediately understand that it is necessary to unfasten money to the European oligarch? Rather, on the contrary, this will be a signal of the need to increase their own independence. And the funny thing is, these actions of these not very smart people make the Russian people a natural ally of this oligarch in the struggle against the West. But adequate people would have to do everything exactly the opposite, wouldn't it ...
      1. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 30 November 2017 12: 37 New
        +5
        Quote: Spade
        And the funny thing is, these actions of these not very smart people make the Russian people a natural ally of this oligarch in the struggle against the West. AND

        When thinking, it’s really funny to watch the “union” of thieves and robbed.
        It seems that this is not for long.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 30 November 2017 12: 40 New
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          Quote: Stroporez
          It seems that this is not for long.

          With such activity of the Western idiots ... wiseacres? Virtually forever.
          1. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 30 November 2017 13: 05 New
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            Quote: Spade
            With such activity of the Western idiots ... wiseacres? Virtually forever.

            Lopatov, at our place, in the blood of "Russian Cross", first we drive ourselves into deep water, and then slowly, but surely straightening up, like that of Munchausen, we begin to pull ourselves out by the hair yes Moreover, each of us, with all our political differences, is ready, if anything, to pull out a check and count to three.
  5. Alex66
    Alex66 30 November 2017 07: 15 New
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    Sanctions are a way to explain to the Russian elite that resources need to be redistributed. Now, from their point of view, the Russian oligarchy is eating a disproportionately large chunk.
    But for us, what difference does it make whether our Putin’s or their Trump’s robbing us, like in a movie: “the whites will come, rob, the red ones will rob rob the peasants to go.” The trouble will be when they agree, then the people will not be needed to support our bourgeoisie.
    1. Kent0001
      Kent0001 2 December 2017 17: 16 New
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      And you have not heard about the conditionally extra 15 million population of the Russian Federation. Moscow Mayor said. This is a man of Power. Question: Whose thoughts did he voice?
  6. Sars
    Sars 30 November 2017 07: 25 New
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    World Cup - another super-cut funds. Personally, I am for the cancellation in Russia of all mega events (construction projects, etc.) while the current people are in power.

    For doping. All athletes are professionals - "chemical broilers." Big sport is not a competition of athletes, but a competition of chemists.
    Today, the IOC hollows Russian athletes, they want to - tomorrow I will disqualify Kazakhs, for example.

    Question: Why do we (residents) need professional sports? What would all sorts of Mutko and the like eat?
    It is better to arrange children's sections for this money in each basement.
    1. Victor N
      Victor N 30 November 2017 09: 24 New
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      It’s high time to replace the term “Sport” with the term “Show Business”. And do not fool the public. And do not cripple children. And this business should feed the budget, not the budget feed it.
      Sports leave to lovers. And the side of achievement.
    2. Kent0001
      Kent0001 2 December 2017 17: 18 New
      +1
      Children's sections, do not wait. Better gelendvagen to his offspring. And the cost of one Gelendvagen a lot of things can be done.
      1. Silkway0026
        Silkway0026 5 December 2017 06: 36 New
        +1
        NOVOROSSIYSK - on two adjacent football fields they built one MAGNET hypermarket. five years have passed, nothing was built in return.
  7. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 30 November 2017 07: 27 New
    +7
    We don’t know what problems Nigerian athletes, for example, have.
    But Mr. Kagarlitsky, we (and not only) are well aware of the problems that American athletes have about which the media wrote a lot and note not only the Russian ones.
    ... here with the World Youth Festival after all it turned out to create a world event? And the result was a world scandal in which Russia looked monstrous
    Can someone tell me what world scandal, "in which Russia looked monstrous," is this man talking about?
    1. Tula gingerbread
      Tula gingerbread 30 November 2017 11: 22 New
      +1
      I'm interested too.
  8. Evgeniy667b
    Evgeniy667b 30 November 2017 07: 51 New
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    The Olympics are already history, but the 2018 World Cup is another utopian idea that should not have been touched at all. PR for GDP, grandmother on the accounts of "friends", and for the people of Russia, as well as for its defense capability, a fig!
  9. antivirus
    antivirus 30 November 2017 07: 54 New
    +1
    international institutions, which are more or less controlled by the West, there is a systematic campaign against Russia on all fronts.

    And this is quite logical. If the issue of redistribution of resources is resolved, then the issues of Crimea and Donbass will simply be forgotten and that’s all.

    2 years ago, I mentioned- WE WILL PAY FOR THE CRIMINAL REMAINING (YATSENYUK CALLED 100 BILLION DOLL) - UNTIL WE RECOGNIZE THIS WITH US WILL BE REMOVED FROM US. OUR DRIVERS CANNOT KNOW WHICH PARTIES ARE PROTECTED. "WITH YOU ANYWHERE ..." + FEE FOR DISAGREE TO REPENT
    THIS IS AN ETERNAL CIRCLE - ACKNOWLEDGE OR LIVING SO IN THE FIGHT
    1. Victor N
      Victor N 30 November 2017 09: 28 New
      +4
      So what? Fold the paws? This is for those who wish. And struggle is the essence of life.
      To whom - to the battle, to whom - to the monastery.
      1. Tula gingerbread
        Tula gingerbread 30 November 2017 11: 25 New
        +3
        Do you think there is no struggle in the monastery? For the best cell for example.
        1. antivirus
          antivirus 30 November 2017 13: 32 New
          0
          or against opportunists fighting for a better cell

          in Sarov there are caves, under the monastery with which the VNIIEF and the city began, there the "cells" - little dead ends with windows - gave food when they didn’t take food, they went in and buried for several days. The path to God without the light of warmth and love that he could give himself without requiring himself
    2. Antianglosax
      Antianglosax 30 November 2017 16: 25 New
      +4
      Quote: antivirus
      WE WILL PAY FOR THE CRIMINAL REMAINING (YATSENYUK CALLED 100 BILLION DOLL) - UNTIL WE RECOGNIZE THIS WITH US WILL BE REMOVED FROM USE MORE. OUR DRIVERS CANNOT KNOW WHICH PARTIES ARE PROTECTED. "WITH YOU ANYWHERE ..." + FEE FOR DISAGREE TO REPENT
      THIS IS AN ETERNAL CIRCLE - ACKNOWLEDGE OR LIVING SO IN THE FIGHT

      And who is stopping to brush away the pieces, take the chessboard and hit the western geeks on the head? And then - you are nobody and you can’t call you at all, all you mumble, shove yourself into your gay passage, and get out of here, tired of listening to the wretched. Geyropa without our hydrocarbons is not a tenant in principle.
      1. Kent0001
        Kent0001 2 December 2017 17: 21 New
        +1
        Well, we are not residents without attendants from geyrops for our hydrocarbons. We are fighting over hydrocarbons in Europe, in Syria, well, this is so for the overall development.
        1. KaPToC
          KaPToC 5 December 2017 22: 37 New
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          Quote: Kent0001
          We are fighting over hydrocarbons in Europe, in Syria, well, this is so for the overall development.

          For general development - in Syria, Russia is fighting to push American tomahawks from our borders.
  10. parusnik
    parusnik 30 November 2017 08: 05 New
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    The Russian elites are now shown their place in the international system and are doing it, in my opinion, very effectively.
    ..This is true, the elite is forced to surrender .. I won’t be surprised if the world community accuses the USSR of doping and Germany will award victory in the Second World War ... Boy Kolya from Urengoy, the first “dove of peace” ..
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 30 November 2017 09: 47 New
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      I think that the first pigeon was when tears began to pour about the innocent Poles. What they got as a result ---- Polish Russophobia, the collapse of monuments.
      Dispossession ---- to be !!!!!
    2. Kent0001
      Kent0001 2 December 2017 17: 21 New
      +2
      Honestly, not at all sorry for this "elite", since it is not the Elite at all.
  11. Dobriy_chelvek
    Dobriy_chelvek 30 November 2017 09: 14 New
    0
    I think that most commentators distort. Be easier. Well, the NBC bosses wanted to work out the headstock, which they dumped WADA (there are 6 bucks for a minute or so, which is 50% of WADA's income) for broadcasting rights until 2022, with the subsequent development of the headstock by selling advertising time. It's just not a task, you see, the main consumer did not shake the 2014 Olympics, the US team performed poorly, respectively, they watched little and paid little for advertising. Well, here Amer Establishment decided not to burn, so he turned on the lobby and went sanctions on the sport. I don’t argue, this could take longer, but NBC money became a catalyst.
  12. Stas157
    Stas157 30 November 2017 09: 28 New
    +3
    with the World Youth Festival after all, it turned out to create a world event?
    Boris Kagarlitsky: And the result was a world scandal in which Russia looked monstrous. The fact that our mass media skillfully hid it from the domestic public is wonderful from the point of view of internal propaganda. But outside, this event caused very great damage to Russia.

    Indeed, it passed me by. I have not even heard anything!
    1. Stas157
      Stas157 30 November 2017 10: 01 New
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      Quote: Stas157
      Indeed, it passed me by. I have not even heard anything!

      Found what the scandal happened:
      the first one was raised two years ago, it was actively pedaled at a meeting of the General Council of the World Federation of Democratic Youth (WFDY) in Havana, in November of the year before last. WFDM is the main organizer of all these festivals. And then we still warned: guys, you do not think that Russia will agree with the left, socialist agenda. We are not in the Soviet Union, but in a completely different country, where anti-communism is the official ideology. But, nevertheless, in February last year, the General Council of the WFDM adopted a decision, and then everything went approximately as we presented. That is, for now it was necessary to get the right to use the label from the WFDM, but in fact the World Festival of Youth and Students is a label and a certain tradition, the Russian side promised the golden mountains: all of Sochi is yours, all of your Olympic facilities, no refusal, do whatever you want, we will provide you with cheap charters and so on. When consent was obtained and it came to preparation, all kinds of uncomfortable things started to pop up ... ... They even refused to show the list of the Russian delegation, although we were obliged, in theory, to confirm it. Well, then the “berries” began. It turned out that there were no charters for foreigners, and the aviation company was not the one, it went bankrupt (delegates were supposed to be transported by VIM-Avia. - RS), and now the matter is actually going to a complete break, that is, the Russian side is demonstrating that it In general, the WFDY and its activists do not want to see that she treats these people simply as some kind of tourists whom she simply endures out of politeness. ... .... the organizers of the festival rejected the participation of almost a thousand activists from India, Sri Lanka, Congo, Nepal and other countries. "

      They promised the left festival in the spirit of all traditions, just let us use this label. But whoever pays, he orders the music

      - At the same time, frankly nationalist forces from different countries were invited, this, in general, shows what priorities the Russian Federation has now. Roughly speaking, the WFDM was deceived. They were promised a regular left-wing festival in the spirit of all festival traditions, just please let us use this label. But whoever pays, he orders the music. We now have a situation in which the IOC responsible for accreditation itself does not have accreditation for the festival ... Russian officials are not able to work in good faith, so instead of getting what they wanted, they already got an international scandal.
      - The trouble is that initially the WFDM and the Kremlin needed two completely different festivals. The first is traditionally left, as it was all the previous years, and the Russian authorities needed a sort of international “half-seliger”, glorifying the conservative traditions that are now held in high esteem in Russia
      among the participants there were suddenly representatives of right-wing organizations, business elites and top officials, which in general contradicts the traditions of this forum, which has a distinctly left ideological connotation. The festivals of youth and students have traditionally been attended primarily by communist, socialist and anti-fascist organizations that opposed colonialism and military dictatorships.
      Officially, the XIX festival is dedicated to the 100th anniversary of the Bolshevik revolution in Russia and personally Ernesto Che Guevara, Fidel Castro and African fighter against colonialism Mohammed Abdelaziz. Actually, judging by the program of the festival, this will end the historical part. And before the delegates will speak "Russian and foreign stars of the first magnitude in the field of digital technologies and their applications in finance, education, medicine." Sberbank, the general partner of the festival, which equips the "innovative laboratory and educational lecture hall", is responsible for the "stars of the first magnitude." In addition to Putin, the festival will be attended by oligarchs and major officials.

      1. Buffet
        Buffet 30 November 2017 10: 39 New
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        I still do not understand what exactly is the essence of deception? What is now supposedly a country with a different ideology and everyone came in a row?
        1. Stas157
          Stas157 30 November 2017 16: 41 New
          +9
          Quote: SHVEDsky_stol
          I still do not understand what exactly is the essence of deception?

          At the pro communist festival, the communists were not allowed! Instead, there was every shusher, United Russia, oligarch children, along with the oligarchs themselves, and of course our officials. This is exactly as if your birthday were celebrated with fanfare, and you weren’t allowed to go. Because it’s superfluous, and without you it’s good!
          The festival was dedicated to the 100th anniversary of the Great October Communist Revolution, but this was not even mentioned! As they did not celebrate the holiday on November 7.
  13. captain
    captain 30 November 2017 09: 33 New
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    Sorry, but the author is right in some matters. The country's prestige in the world is not determined by the number of medals, it seems to me that it is determined by economic power, financial resources and the welfare of the population. And when Mutko did not resign, I personally crept in very bad doubts about this. And one more question. Why do people like Radchenkov always end up in the place where we can stumble? Why are people with Soviet education selling their homeland so easily? Why in the USSR brought up such as; Gorbachev, Yeltsin, Yakovlev, Shevarnadze, Kravchuk, Volkogonov ...... Gaidar (dad rear-admiral political worker), Chubais brothers (dad colonel head of the department of Marxism-Leninism), Nemtsov, Berezovsky, Kulagin (major general of the KGB), Medvedev (dad is a teacher of scientific communism), etc. Why did the Soviet system educate and push these and similar people into the elite?
    1. Palch
      Palch 30 November 2017 11: 22 New
      +3
      The Soviet system rotted much faster than a long rotting west. They stand because they do not hide that for them the main thing is money and all for the sake of money. This is their ideology, words about rights and freedoms are just in addition. And with the scoop, everyone was called to communism during the day, and they themselves at night quietly rummaged through all the state pockets. And you won’t go far in a lie. So they didn’t leave. And you have to live - that's why they dragged their people everywhere then, just like now. Ideology or some kind of idea is not at all, Only momentary enrichment. Money, you need a lot of money, well, a lot of money they need. And so, however, as they say - nothing personal. Alas, the Soviet system as a whole was beautiful and enticing, but in essence it was built on fooling and lying to its people and on the personal enrichment of leadership. And the farther, the more this abscess grew. The times of Pavka Korchagin occupied a very small period of the Soviet era, and even then at its very beginning - the time of incorrigible romantics. Briefly, very primitive, but somewhere close to the truth.
    2. Tula gingerbread
      Tula gingerbread 30 November 2017 11: 33 New
      +3
      In the Soviet system, they would probably be ordinary officials, teachers and promote the party line.
      But conditions have changed and Bukharin’s slogan has been put at the head — enrich yourself.
      And enrich yourself by any methods and means.
      So it was not the Soviet system that made them such, but the rejection of the Soviet system.
    3. creak
      creak 30 November 2017 14: 37 New
      +1
      Quote: captain
      Why did the Soviet system educate and push these and similar people into the elite?

      I dare to believe that one of the reasons was the principle of negative selection - which became more and more widespread, first of all, in the party bodies that controlled everything and everything ... As a result of this selection, incompetent specialists, people of business and professionals, and careerists and opportunists, who can only sing praises to the next leader and are ready to vote for any stupidity that has come down from above ... Those who are already not young could observe the gradual degradation of a system in which more and more steam went off the whistle, and the efficiency getting smaller and smaller ....
      In the end, the system finally stopped working protection from the fool, and she went to mess ....
  14. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 30 November 2017 10: 14 New
    0
    Kagarlitsky raves.
  15. shinobi
    shinobi 30 November 2017 10: 18 New
    +1
    I don’t like Chegoth. To listen to him, the whole west is rushing in a united front and it’s better to pass everything and everything. The kings put them on the count, without unnecessary judicial delays and noise in the explanations.
  16. Altona
    Altona 30 November 2017 10: 29 New
    +7

    How we and these people will come out of convergence with the West is completely incomprehensible. And what are these "military rails"? Kaspersky has already announced that it will withdraw the business if special services require cooperation.
  17. Altona
    Altona 30 November 2017 10: 32 New
    +3
    Quote: captain
    And when Mutko did not resign, I personally crept in very bad doubts about this.

    ---------------------------------
    Come on already Mutko tugging. This question will not be pulled lightly-kolobko, the levels are not the same, I found a scythe on a stone, the question has become political. Smirnov worked with WADA, so they stupidly deceived him, they turned everything against us. Yesterday, athletes have turned directly to Putin.
  18. Altona
    Altona 30 November 2017 10: 35 New
    +6
    Quote: shinobi
    I don’t like Chegoth. To listen to him, the whole west is rushing in a united front and it’s better to pass everything and everything. The kings put them on the count, without unnecessary judicial delays and noise in the explanations.

    --------------------------------
    But because there are no oprichnins on vile people who are everywhere. For whom they keep half a million Rosguard and the FSB? Not a single sytin amnuel has been hurt so far and even the courts are winning. Such as we screw for dissatisfaction.
  19. Nix1986
    Nix1986 30 November 2017 10: 38 New
    +8
    https://meduza.io/shapito/2017/11/29/tsik-predsta
    vil-primitivnyy-logotip-vyborov-prezidenta-za-37-
    millionov-rubley-teper-vse-risuyut-svoi-varianty-
    ne-huzhe

    Ahahahah, I feel that developing a hole for the ballots will cost Lyamov so 200.
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 30 November 2017 11: 03 New
      0
      Do you know that half the truth is a lie?
      Here they will order, for example, you will build a house for ten million. And your competitor will begin to tell how much you were paid for the construction of the fence alone. You probably will give him in the face so that he does not spread rumors?
      1. Nix1986
        Nix1986 30 November 2017 11: 11 New
        +5
        For what I bought, for what I sold. Do you have reliable information? Pliz scan government contract in the studio!
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 30 November 2017 11: 18 New
          +1
          Quote: Nix1986
          For what I bought, for what I sold

          Who did you "buy" this from? The planned unprofitable Latvian "Medusa", which is maintained by the European Democracy Fund?
          1. Nix1986
            Nix1986 30 November 2017 11: 23 New
            +3
            Google, for example, there is a link to "https://www.vedomosti.ru/politics/articles/2017
            / 11/29/743518-tsik-utverdila-logotip-viborov-2018
            ". Do you have a source of jellyfish debt data?
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 30 November 2017 11: 41 New
              +1
              I have data that this is a Latvian organization. That's enough for me. As it is now fashion- "foreign agent" with all the consequences.
              1. Nix1986
                Nix1986 30 November 2017 11: 53 New
                +1
                Well, I answered you, there are a bunch of news agencies and others crawling out on Google with the correct "kosher" registration. Wow, I have an great-grandfather Austrian, it turns out I'm a foreign spy ?! laughing
                1. Lopatov
                  Lopatov 30 November 2017 12: 15 New
                  0
                  You just need to be aware that "independent media" does not exist. And this, now the Latvian agency is working with a specific, completely transparent goal.
                  Including allowing, to put it mildly, a half-truth about the "logo for 38 million rubles." Which the agency will actually receive for the entire company informing citizens about the 2018 elections.
                  1. Nix1986
                    Nix1986 30 November 2017 13: 29 New
                    0
                    I found the full text, it reads “Later, in an interview with reporters, Pamfilova noted that the information campaign will begin as soon as the decision on the election is published. She clarified that when disseminating information about the elections, the CEC intends to use“ all available channels, starting from traditional media, outdoor advertising, ending with new media. "On the organization of this work, a total of about 770 million rubles was laid. RIA Novosti https://ria.ru/politics/20171129/1509874841.html
                    ". So no, 37-38 lyamov is just a logo, well, or if you call it something like“ inform support ”.
                    And as for the independent media, I agree, with the Russian channels you are tearing everything ahead of the rest of the planet, in many western countries, as then with Georgia, Russia is an aggressor. In general, you have to be like Mulder, though she is somewhere nearby.
    2. Kent0001
      Kent0001 2 December 2017 17: 27 New
      0
      Here is the answer to many questions about rospil. Cool, I'd rather emblem the emblem.
  20. Ural resident
    Ural resident 30 November 2017 11: 06 New
    +1
    So far, in the role of defenders, it will be so.
    In any case, you need to act alternatively. Alternative international organizations can be created. There are those who want to - to carry out their expertise in them and draw their conclusions.
    Although they will not be recognized by the Olympic Committee, there will already be a dispute in the media. So the West itself has been working for a long time, why not act on their field with their own weapons?
    1. Kent0001
      Kent0001 2 December 2017 17: 28 New
      0
      Our grandmothers are hostages in the WEST, no one will go against a guarantor. Therefore, now everyone is quietly silent in a rag. And believe me, this will continue to be so.
  21. Rostislav
    Rostislav 30 November 2017 12: 50 New
    0
    But the fact remains, the claims presented are justified.

    What are the reasons for? Yelling Rodchenko?
    I did not even read further.
  22. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 30 November 2017 12: 57 New
    +1
    Interestingly, but on that test tube that Colin Powell shocked at the UN Security Council, there were no scratches? You never know what ...
    The WADA Commission flatly refused to conduct an investigation into the Russian team in tank biathlon.
    Previously, they came to us with swords, now they changed swords to urine.
  23. iouris
    iouris 30 November 2017 13: 13 New
    +3
    Punished not by Russian elites, but by foreign agents. If foreign agents are "Russian elites", then the population of the Russian Federation has no future - it is "fired".
  24. NEXUS
    NEXUS 30 November 2017 13: 23 New
    +3
    Then a third moment arises: you don’t need to be substituted.

    I read to this phrase and stopped reading further ...
    Dear author, the question is not that “no need to substitute”, but that they do not need proof! Remind me of the history of mildonium? And then what, after a while, did this official declare?
    We were designated losers. As this truth does not prick our eyes. But the facts are stubborn. The removal of our Olympians, the removal of the entire paralympic team from participation in the games, now this selection of medals ...
    And here we either endure savory slaps in the face of the hara, while in public, or we begin to respond with a corpus callosum in the teeth. And now, apparently, the moment is, when, excuse me, we will see what our bureaucrats and politicians are capable of in this matter: chewing snot or doing business.
    1. PSih2097
      PSih2097 30 November 2017 13: 50 New
      +4
      Quote: NEXUS
      we’ll see what our bureaucrats and politicians are capable of in this matter: chewing snot or doing business.

      they will show their concern in this matter and mumble something slurred ... IMHO
    2. Anyone
      Anyone 30 November 2017 16: 15 New
      0
      Quote: NEXUS
      And here we either endure savory slaps in the face of the hara, while in public, or we begin to respond with a corpus callosum in the teeth. And now, apparently, the moment is, when, excuse me, we will see what our bureaucrats and politicians are capable of in this matter: chewing snot or doing business.

      I want specifics ... And then the "corpus callosum in the mouth" sounds, of course, very poetic, but these are just words. Your suggestions? Shell the IOC and WADA Caliber headquarters? Or evil mother to freeze ears (crossed out) defiantly not to go to the next Olympics?
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 30 November 2017 16: 38 New
        +2
        Quote: Anyone
        Your suggestions? Shell the IOC and WADA Caliber headquarters?

        There is such a thing as an independent examination, for example. It’s worthless to turn to international courts if they were all bought with giblets by mattresses ... again, politicians should not be silent, and should not express concern, but really defend the rights of our country in the international arena. It’s good that we are not the only "outcast country" .. . yes you never know ...
        1. Anyone
          Anyone 30 November 2017 16: 48 New
          +2
          Quote: NEXUS
          There is such a thing as an independent examination, for example ...

          I do not presume to assess the prospects of challenging the WADA decision on the basis of an independent examination, but also the methods for carrying out such an examination. But on one point you are right - the inaction of sports functionaries of the Russian Federation suggests that they are not interested in conducting any forensic examinations. What is the reason in your opinion?
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 30 November 2017 16: 55 New
            +2
            Quote: Anyone
            What is the reason in your opinion?

            The main reason in my opinion is that we are still very weak. And because of this, we are delaying time in order to rearm, strengthen ourselves and find more allies. Well, the Russian offshore zone also has a place to be ...
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  26. ARES623
    ARES623 30 November 2017 20: 05 New
    0
    "However, the left-wing publicist, sociologist Boris Kagarlitsky is sure ..."
    You can not read further. Firstly - the "left", i.e. liberal-oriented, and secondly, I’m sure, that is, it doesn’t know, but claims ... As a result, it is an attempt to cut down the State Department grant in an easy way.
  27. Radikal
    Radikal 30 November 2017 21: 13 New
    +1
    Quote: Tula gingerbread
    Only the sports elite? Does it even have an elite in Russia? The elite is the best in their field, as I understand it. The best in professionalism and moral qualities.
    There is a military elite, there is a scientific elite, there is an engineering, working, and cultural one.
    In my opinion, we are very mistaken when we talk about the bureaucratic elite.
    We do not have a managerial elite, there are officials.

    yes good
  28. volodia.semuhin1958
    volodia.semuhin1958 30 November 2017 22: 54 New
    0
    where did these candons get out cockroaches disappeared but these experts bred
  29. volodia.semuhin1958
    volodia.semuhin1958 30 November 2017 22: 57 New
    0
    hammer you on these olympiads no they were blown away. it was before the war stopped as soon as the games began. and then like the Olympics, so war games will not be surprised if even now Eun on them during games has something to blow
  30. Nemesis
    Nemesis 1 December 2017 02: 14 New
    +2
    The Olympics and the US opinion about the Russian Federation are generally indifferent to me .... As for those who consider themselves to be elite in the Russian Federation today, this is not the elite, but representatives of the occupation authorities in the Russian Federation ... It’s not for nothing that the United States issued a medal for victory in It’s difficult to call the policy of Yeltsin and those who put monuments to him differently than anti-people ... Until recently, this supposedly elite felt in a position that can be described by the name of the Soviet film, “Amongst strangers, a stranger among ours. '' .. However, they never became their own in the West and are increasingly reminded that they are 16th grade and are in a subordinate position ... Hence the whole history of the conflict ... It reminds me of the war between Ukraine and Poland, where the war was not for the sovereignty of Ukraine, but for equality with the Poles ... Some people present the GDP hardly like Peter the Great ... Well, I don’t see Peter in it, from the word at all ... Others try to present the GDP to me like Ivan Kolita ... Again, I don’t see this ... Well, let’s wait and see who was right ... Who will survive will see ...
  31. dDYHA
    dDYHA 1 December 2017 07: 20 New
    0
    I wrote everything correctly. What is considered to be our elite is trying in every possible way to rob our country and dump it over a hill. They do not care about their homeland. They have a homeland where the priest is warm. That's when this elite will understand that it has a country and the country has a people and not slaves. Then we will not give a damn about the IOC from the belfry to both Washington and the European Union.
  32. Alexander S
    Alexander S 1 December 2017 09: 54 New
    0
    The Master even now has a terrible weapon. It is enough for an objectionable businessman to send news and all the ambitions to international business. And if you finish it off completely - shake hands, smile, but this is tough - the highest measure. Trump is barely holding on, and after all, a couple of compliments have been released to him. I am proud of our guarantor - power!
  33. Arkady Gaidar
    Arkady Gaidar 1 December 2017 13: 26 New
    +1
    Kagarlitsky said everything correctly: "No need to substitute!" Our modern elites dug a hole for themselves. And I discussed the issue of the global economy here:
    https://publizist.ru/blogs/110700/20577/-
    In our "big bags" hit! laughing tongue They stole it and took it to the West. They have now imposed sanctions and restricted access. And the case will come, they’ll act like with Gaddafi, when he paid the war against him with his money hidden in the West)) Now the criminals are here and there. That's what it means to rob your laughing
  34. misti1973
    misti1973 2 December 2017 18: 12 New
    0
    "if you know that they will look at you under a microscope, then you should not allow any obvious unfair actions." But they thought that by stealing the dough, they would be on a par with those who had earned these grandmothers for generations! Fuckers. I’m doing this with my hands and feet so that this Putin’s shobla can be torn to the root! And it doesn’t matter, with the help of the West, the East or without it.
  35. Damask
    Damask 3 December 2017 13: 55 New
    0
    Again, one smart one, it’s impossible, and it’s possible, why not, it’s even very possible to create an alternative Olympic movement, if the athletes are interested in profitable motivation, there would be a way out of everything and, most importantly, a material resource, if the winning athletes are not protected in all hearing Sochi means something is
  36. Sergey Kiryushin
    Sergey Kiryushin 5 December 2017 14: 29 New
    +1
    The tactics are obvious. Moreover, it is clear that two different scenarios are not just played. The first is to humiliate the country through exceptions from various 8-k, Olympic Games, etc. Thus provoking the people in order to intensify the protest from below. The second is personal sanctions, children and money of oligarchs, etc. Because of this, the irritation of the elites, the “toxicity” of Putin and, as a result, the financial “warmth” of grassroots protests. There are enough options to avoid. You can sacrifice a figure (the resignation of Medvedev and even Mutko is able to remove most of the effect of the "Olympic" case), you can dispossess the oligarch to keep the rest witty. This will calm down the first and second. You can still go on the offensive on the IOC and WADA. I still do not understand the ostrich policy of our Olympic Committee. If, according to the regulations, an athlete passes his test to a doping officer, then for the same scratches it is necessary to present WADA, which could not ensure safety. So let the investigation look for direct executors. How much can you make excuses? Why can’t you come up with your own "Rodchenkov" who would talk about sexual harassment by McLaren. Inventing evidence, you can apologize. There is an example of Strauss Kahn.