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What's new on the Prince Vladimir submarine? Data appeared in the network

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The network has published an analysis of images of the new Russian submarine "Prince Vladimir" of the type "Borey-A" that appeared in the media, the newspaper reports Look.




In this case, the publication notes that there are no official reports on the characteristics of the new submarine. Experts only make assumptions about changes in the internal structure of submarines on the basis of published images, in this case, from a reportage on the Zvezda TV channel.

“It is argued that, despite reports of an increase in missile load up to 20 units, the 16 SLBM RSM-56 Bulava actually remained on the submarine, however, to confirm this, we need clearer photos, the resource notes.



The construction of the Borey-A submarines, 4-x, is continuing, but the media representatives were not allowed to go beyond a certain point during the ceremony, probably to prevent photographing of other missile carriers.

The newspaper reminds that 17 November, the underwater cruiser (the fourth in a row in the Borey family) of the 955A project - “Prince Vladimir” - was launched from the slipway of the Sevmash defense shipyard and launched.

In the British press, the submarine "Prince Vladimir" was called the most deadly in the world.
Photos used:
TV channel "Star"
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  1. 210ox
    210ox 29 November 2017 15: 53 New
    +2
    Yeah. What new products or even the old ones aren’t supposed to be here. Why guess at the coffee grounds?
    1. Spartanez300
      Spartanez300 29 November 2017 15: 57 New
      +2
      The latest submarines should be inaccessible to outsiders.
      1. siberalt
        siberalt 29 November 2017 16: 11 New
        +1
        And those who are non-party, how many? winked
        1. vovanpain
          vovanpain 29 November 2017 16: 18 New
          +3
          Quote: siberalt
          And those who are non-party, how many? winked

          Oleg hi A long-standing principle of secrecy, everyone knows as much as they should know. hi
        2. Pirogov
          Pirogov 29 November 2017 17: 36 New
          +1
          Quote: siberalt
          And those who are non-party, how many?

          Several departments of the CIA.
        3. saturn.mmm
          saturn.mmm 29 November 2017 19: 39 New
          0
          Quote: siberalt
          And those who are non-party, how many?

          How much do you need
    2. Anarchist
      Anarchist 29 November 2017 15: 59 New
      10
      Dmitry, Well, I have news today:
      I want to cry somewhere, laugh somewhere ... This is a complete mystery!
      Like in a fairy tale - the further the worse!
      1. 210ox
        210ox 29 November 2017 16: 12 New
        +1
        Alexander .. There was one article, and that was not disclosed. About the First Heroes of the Soviet Union ..
        Quote: Anarchist
        Dmitry, Well, I have news today:
        I want to cry somewhere, laugh somewhere ... This is a complete mystery!
        Like in a fairy tale - the further the worse!
        1. Esoteric
          Esoteric 29 November 2017 18: 11 New
          +1
          With such arrogant "partners" and enemies do not. The screw was closed and write about TTX less necessary. Why boast? One boasted, boasted, but fell on his side ... We should be afraid for the unknown. What is for sale - please, and what is ours - get out of the door ... yes
          1. a.sirin
            a.sirin 29 November 2017 19: 25 New
            +1
            Once you get extremely shut, sweat. the enemy begins to prepare for theoretically invented threats on your part.
            Because the “probable adversary” has more opportunities, money, and technology at times; in the near future he will create so many “threats” that you cannot parry them. Intestine of small dia.
            1. Paranoid50
              Paranoid50 29 November 2017 21: 34 New
              +3
              Quote: a.sirin
              Once you get extremely shut, sweat. the enemy begins to prepare for theoretically invented threats on your part.

              Come on ... And without closing threats from us they thought up - enough for the whole world. yes No, damn it, let's tell everyone and show everyone, yeah. Even in the 90s, kissing the gums with mattresses, they didn’t even reach such “edges”. And about the creation of threats for us ... Yes, never mind! Kim is threatened by everyone who is not lazy, and? ...
      2. Nikolai Grek
        Nikolai Grek 30 November 2017 01: 57 New
        +3
        Quote: Anarchist
        Dmitry, Well, I have news today:
        I want to cry somewhere, laugh somewhere ... This is a complete mystery!
        Like in a fairy tale - the further the worse!

        have fun yet !! wink wink yes yes laughing laughing laughing

        In numerology, the number "7" means "sign of an angel" and symbolizes good luck. However, the realities of the US Seventh Fleet speak about something completely different - the flotilla seems to be cursed, and its ships constantly fail. Details reported by FAN News Agency.

        A few days ago, the U.S. Seventh Fleet command once again announced that the USS Fitzgerald (DDG 62) missile destroyer, which collided with a container ship in June 2017, again received two holes below the waterline. But the most amazing thing in this story is that the ship was damaged due to no fault of its own crew - it was on the slipway deck of the MV Transshelf transport dock. The destroyer was transported for repair to the American Pascagul for overhaul. However, the ship had to be returned back on November 27 due to cracks and damage found.

        An investigation into the incident showed that the kilblocks on which the hull of the damaged ship rested were pushing the side shell of the destroyer. In this regard, two holes formed. It was unreasonable for the command to transport the destroyer for repair under such conditions.

        https://politexpert.net/79083-proklyatie-sedmogo-
        flota-ssha-esminec-ficdzherald-poluchil-dve-probo
        iny? utm_source = warfiles.ru

        wassat wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing
  2. Monarchist
    Monarchist 29 November 2017 16: 10 New
    +1
    Quote: 210ox
    Yeah. What new products or even the old ones aren’t supposed to be here. Why guess at the coffee grounds?

    I think: now they are sitting in some office and carefully reviewing the pictures.
    By the way, I never understood and did not believe in fortune-telling on cards or coffee grounds. And two of my classmates believed in fortune telling on the cards, one even looked for his wife on the cards.
    It is unequivocal to say that predictions and fortune telling are false: Nostardamus, Mesing or Wang do not allow this to be done, but most likely they are UNIQUE, and everything else ...
    1. dzvero
      dzvero 29 November 2017 17: 33 New
      0
      In principle, the accuracy of predictions and fortune-telling is 50% - either true or not smile Filling the test on a random principle (without hesitation, throwing dice, etc.), you can expect up to 37% of correct answers. But with fortune-telling on thickets or cards "not everything is so simple." Two are playing here - the customer and the fortuneteller. The role of a fortuneteller is to give out unobvious associations and semantically formalize them (a combination of cards, some kind of images in the thick). Interpretation of the submitted information is carried out by the customer, adjusting the situation to his vision. Some experts work in approximately the same way - they examine the photo, interpret it in accordance with their experience and, depending on it, can give approximate parameters of the object. Not in the details, of course. In addition, sometimes in the process of “considering”, using their knowledge in other areas, they can produce completely unobvious, but rather sensible assumptions. There are abstruse elf words experience and expertise smile
      Predictors from another opera. I won’t say anything about Wang and Mesing - everything is too confused. Vanga, end of the 80s: "at the end of the century, Kursk will be under water and the whole world will mourn it." I don’t know how it happened.
      And Nostradamus ... his quatrains apparently on the principle:
      x + y + z = a (2.4 <a <2.6)
      substitute any numbers or, in this case, customize any events to the approximate scope of the answer.
      1. Esoteric
        Esoteric 29 November 2017 18: 16 New
        0
        Quote: dzvero
        Vanga, end of the 80s: "at the end of the century, Kursk will be under water and the whole world will mourn it." I don’t know how it happened.

        First, Moscow was supposed to be under water. And we all wondered how that was. Will go underground, fall into the void ??? belay But "suddenly" Kursk went under the water ... lol And she didn’t even know such a name and could not pronounce it on this. And now they are making a hunchback ... Special services are working, they are forming public opinion for us ...
        1. dzvero
          dzvero 29 November 2017 19: 15 New
          0
          About Kursk was. At some point, they started talking openly about the grandmother, they made films, so it was precisely Kursk that was clearly heard on the recording. When I saw for the first time, I was also surprised - where is Kursk and where is water. It’s a pity now that you can’t find that passage at once, and watching the videos is too lazy, and it’s not interesting. I do not believe in such revelations. Of all religions, only the holy trinity should be honored - matan, sopromat and the Criminal Code smile Although it is possible that some predictions may have a completely material basis, but no one has yet caught her by the tail, the basis of etu smile
  3. bubalik
    bubalik 29 November 2017 16: 12 New
    +6
    ,, let's hope that everything worked fine here bully
    1. Samaritan
      Samaritan 29 November 2017 16: 32 New
      +6
      Are you hinting at Lucian from Blagoveshchensk !?
      I know him, this is a very strong and clean person, previously raised the Svirsky Monastery (Holy Trinity Alexander Svirsky Monastery in Lodeynopolsky District, Len. Oblast)
      He personally painted and laid bricks ... people who know him adore him! And for all of us, it wouldn't hurt to be at least a little like him ...
      Svirsky monastery:



      And it was like this (a mental institution was located in it):
      1. bubalik
        bubalik 29 November 2017 16: 44 New
        +1
        Samaritan Today, 17: 32 ↑
        ,,,I have nothing against it personality clergymen ,,,
      2. dzvero
        dzvero 29 November 2017 17: 42 New
        +5
        Today I came across a publication on the network that it’s not my fault who is the priest to blame for the unsuccessful launch of the satellites! I didn’t work during the consecration of the rocket! Probably the water was not of that system ... Apparently Roscosmos will have to certify holy water, either there or GOST to enter ... It is incomprehensible to the mind ...
    2. In100gram
      In100gram 29 November 2017 21: 39 New
      +1
      Quote: bubalik
      , we hope that everything worked fine here

      Yes, but they are not responsible for the result. As with the launch from Vostochny
    3. dasbo
      dasbo 1 December 2017 15: 01 New
      0
      Offset!)) I really laughed for a long time
  4. Herculesic
    Herculesic 29 November 2017 16: 13 New
    0
    In general, the state is simply obliged, not only to have some secrets, but also to protect them properly. And especially curious pressists need to change their location to what they are supposed to do under the article "espionage"!
  5. NEXUS
    NEXUS 29 November 2017 16: 18 New
    +3
    Borea-A is better than the head Borea ... What will Borei-B be like? Apparently, on Prince Oleg, and even more likely, Bulava-M will already be put on Generalissimo Suvorov.
  6. bald
    bald 29 November 2017 16: 24 New
    +1
    And who will ring about the innovations of the Premier League ?! Perfection is ongoing and at what point in the ocean it will be, except those who are supposed to, God alone knows.
  7. Mihanishche
    Mihanishche 29 November 2017 16: 47 New
    +1
    It is enough for us to know that our submarines are significantly superior to foreign ones. And I’m sure that we are all ready to confirm this!
    And the details are for narrow-minded diggers, they do not form the glory of our weapons.
    1. DenZ
      DenZ 29 November 2017 22: 06 New
      0
      Quote: Mikhanishche
      And the details are for narrow-minded diggers, they do not form the glory of our weapons

      All salt is always in the details, but people are not disassembling the details and generally they are not narrow-minded. Our boats, of course, are very good, but besides patriotism, it doesn’t interfere with understanding the details (so that there is something in the head). "Hooray" we are all ready and happy to shout (I hope most, for sure)
  8. rudolff
    rudolff 29 November 2017 16: 48 New
    +6
    Borey-A and Ash-M have already been launched, and information about the appearance is zero. And it pleases. Although Sevmash put things in order. And then, I remember how on a single engineering site a bunch of Sevmashev’s idiots discussed the design features of Severodvinsk right up to the last frame, with all measurements, calculations, diagrams, drawings, steel grades, etc. My head hair stood on end. The boat was still on the slipway.
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 29 November 2017 17: 05 New
      +3
      Quote: rudolff
      Borey-A and Ash-M have already been launched, and information about the appearance is zero. And it pleases.

      Hello, friend. hi Absolutely right. From here and less than urapatrioticheskih screaming and liberal sracha.
      Likewise, in fact, quite a bit of information began to emerge about the modernization of Nakhimych. And that is good too.
      1. rudolff
        rudolff 29 November 2017 17: 18 New
        +2
        Good evening, Andrey! I would be quite happy that the ships surrender on time, and I will find out everything else if you wish without Internet.
    2. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 29 November 2017 21: 06 New
      +3
      Quote: rudolff
      already launched, and information about the appearance of zero

      Volchara, hello! hi
      When the boat is on the water, only the superstructure is visible. But when she goes to the font on the “sled” - much more is visible: a hydro-jet propulsion system, feed stabilizers with the release of low-frequency extended g / a antennas. If the face is not sheathed, then you can calculate the caliber and the amount of NTA, then multiply the received by 3 and evaluate the transportable knowledge base ...
      Therefore, the photo is a lot of information for the initiates ... yes
      The rest will be extracted from taverns from drunken conversations, from statues in the factory short run (I almost said * runabout *) ... bully
      But this is not scary: the know-how has long been in technology, material composition, temperature and additives to ship non-magnetic steel ... the structure and composition of the hydro-acoustic coating of the hull ... in the stuffing that Kulibins shoved into the PC ...
      IMHO.
      1. rudolff
        rudolff 29 November 2017 22: 56 New
        +2
        That's right, Boa! But I mean, this time there is no information leakage other than this piece of aft. And with Kazan as well. But the changes affected even the retractable fence. About the "insides" even few people guess. For our defense industry, the case can be said to be unique. Usually the "languages" in front of the technology run.
  9. sir_obs
    sir_obs 29 November 2017 16: 49 New
    +2
    "The latest displacement system" is certainly cool, but what is it, actually, in general?
    1. Ace Tambourine
      Ace Tambourine 29 November 2017 17: 19 New
      0
      And you, Stirlitz, this should not be, for this great mystery ...
      Moreover, the article does not even mention this ...
      And for what purpose are you interested, I apologize ...
      1. Vlad.by
        Vlad.by 29 November 2017 20: 35 New
        +1
        So he wants to use an analog in his bath. I would also, by the way, not refuse. It’s, like, to fit into a full bath with a body under 100 kg in weight and volume appropriate and ... not to spill a drop? Or fit in and not get wet?
        It is tricky, as it were, a displacement system.
        Which of the submariners would explain.
        1. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa 29 November 2017 21: 42 New
          +3
          Quote: Vlad.by
          It is tricky, as it were, a displacement system.

          Quote: sir_obs
          "The latest displacement system" is certainly cool, but what is it, actually, in general?

          Sir! You are a sea man! and you can’t understand this synth! Well, in single-hull cases, it can be assumed that the GBS located inside the PC are somehow filled in a special way. But Borya is a two-hull, he has everything according to the classics ...
          Maybe the scribbler got confused with the substitution system ... then one could suggest something. And so I'm in the sweep and conjecture, like you, a colleague. request
          1. sir_obs
            sir_obs 29 November 2017 22: 35 New
            +1
            This is not an article, this is a video correspondent broadcasting, and he also says that this system makes the submarine invisible and silent.
            Well, that is, it carries a complete blizzard, in addition to the whole concept such as the "displacement" system, there just exists, well, for sure, in our fleet.
            Anyway,
            1. Boa kaa
              Boa kaa 29 November 2017 23: 36 New
              +1
              Quote: sir_obs
              the correspondent broadcasts this on video, and he also says that this system makes the submarine invisible and silent.

              Of course nonsense!
              There was infa that a system of active suppression of the boat’s own noise was installed on Bor and Yasen. A similar thing stands on the Wolves and Virgins ...
              But this is a completely different "song about the main thing." (with)
          2. Vlad.by
            Vlad.by 30 November 2017 00: 24 New
            0
            I apologize, I'm a man of great quality. Ship topics are more like a general engineering hobby.
            Therefore, I ask questions. I didn’t master it with my own mind ...
  10. Going
    Going 29 November 2017 16: 50 New
    +8
    In the British press, the submarine "Prince Vladimir" was called the most deadly in the world.


    That is their opinion, which worries us the least, we don’t have to inflate our military budget against anti-Russian hysteria.
  11. Simon
    Simon 29 November 2017 16: 58 New
    0
    In the British press, the submarine "Prince Vladimir" was called the most deadly in the world. So let them now fear our submarine missile carriers. I wonder which next ones will come out? What new "secret" gadgets ?! what
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 29 November 2017 17: 08 New
      +2
      Quote: Simon
      In the British press, the submarine "Prince Vladimir" was called the most deadly in the world.

      The Britons call any of our new submarines the most deadly in the world, not because they are very afraid, but in order to knock out extra money to develop new weapons and to raise hysteria in the world that we are the Axis of Evil.
  12. Piramidon
    Piramidon 29 November 2017 17: 34 New
    +2
    I FOOD from these of your headlines. "there was evidence of innovations at the Prince Vladimir nuclear submarine," BUT, "experts only make assumptions." What does it mean?
    1. Ace Tambourine
      Ace Tambourine 29 November 2017 18: 08 New
      0
      Well, they suggest that hell knows what is on it ...
      1. Piramidon
        Piramidon 29 November 2017 18: 32 New
        +1
        Quote: Ace Tambourine
        Well, they suggest that hell knows what is on it ...

        Clear. What SPECIALISTS, such and headings. Just to pick and check out.
        1. IL-18
          IL-18 29 November 2017 20: 24 New
          +2
          I cleanly noted. I didn’t let it go. The people will enjoy a lot.
  13. Pancho
    Pancho 29 November 2017 17: 51 New
    0
    Quote: Simon
    In the British press, the submarine "Prince Vladimir" was called the most deadly in the world. So let them now fear our submarine missile carriers. I wonder which next ones will come out? What new "secret" gadgets ?! what

    And what about it with the Clubs, it seems they are not accepted for service?
    1. Muvka
      Muvka 29 November 2017 17: 56 New
      0
      Su-35s have also recently been taken into service, which has not prevented them from being in Syria since 2015.
    2. Ace Tambourine
      Ace Tambourine 29 November 2017 18: 11 New
      0
      but is there a difference in what falls on your head ...? Liner, Sineva, Mace, Poplar, Sarmatian ...?
      They will accept and deliver without your desire and opinion ...
  14. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 29 November 2017 18: 09 New
    0
    Admiral Chernavin in his interview said that a boat with 20 missile silos is less noticeable. than with the 16th. He specifically set tasks for the search and detection of Amer SLBMs and they were always found ... wassat
    1. Vlad.by
      Vlad.by 30 November 2017 23: 48 New
      0
      And if you hadn’t specially set it, would you not have found it? Or would you find it only with the 16th? And 4 more would somewhere flutter somewhere?
      I don’t understand anything at all
  15. APASUS
    APASUS 29 November 2017 18: 20 New
    0
    Finally, the screws began to close, during the USSR it was a very serious secret, then they all buried.
    1. Kerensky
      Kerensky 29 November 2017 19: 16 New
      0
      Finally, the screws began to close

      It seems to me, or in the previous photos the screw was closed differently?
      1. IL-18
        IL-18 29 November 2017 20: 32 New
        +3
        Yes also. It's just that when a barrel cost more than $ 100, they made a box of crystal, and now it is made of plywood.
    2. Ace Tambourine
      Ace Tambourine 29 November 2017 20: 31 New
      +1
      So they showed you that she had her ass inserted ... Maybe there’s no screw there, but whatever the water cannons under the belly ... And let the partner break his head ..
      1. Reader 2013
        Reader 2013 29 November 2017 20: 49 New
        +1
        Quote: Ace Tambourine
        partner let him break his head ..

        Yes, they all know very well
        1. Vlad.by
          Vlad.by 30 November 2017 23: 51 New
          0
          Well, yes, yes ... only the shape of the blades is one of the main secrets of hydrologists. Or maybe there is an outer fairing there? Or two screws on the Tu-95 ?? :-)
      2. Kerensky
        Kerensky 29 November 2017 22: 28 New
        0
        Then you can put a couple more boxes in different places on the case. Still, the pictures showed a yellow tent, not a box.