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How Kim Jong-un will help the Russian team to be at the 2018 Olympics

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The Central Telegraph Agency of the DPRK (TsTAK) on the eve of almost the entire day published statements by representatives of the country's leadership on the successful launch of an intercontinental ballistic missile "Hwaseon-15" capable of carrying a nuclear warhead. The rocket flew over 950 km and fell in the Japanese economic zone about 250 km from Aomori Prefecture. The launch was carried out from the Pyongson area in 3 h 17 minutes. It is noted that the rocket rose to a height of 4,5 thousand. Km. Announcer TsTAK loudly informed the citizens of the DPRK (and first of all - the citizens of the United States) that the tested rocket "is capable of destroying any object throughout the United States of America."


How Kim Jong-un will help the Russian team to be at the 2018 Olympics


The order was personally given by the head of the DPRK, Kim Jong-un, who, after observing the launch of the missile launch, eventually made a short statement with a smile on his face: "This is a great success for the entire North Korean people."

Some time after this phrase, Kim Jong-un said that in the DPRK "the formation of nuclear missile forces was finally completed."
Head of North Korea:
Today we have reached historical success in the final formation of nuclear missile forces.


On the air of the Central TC of the DPRK, they hinted that the program was implemented ahead of schedule due to US threats. Thus, Washington can be safely recorded in the "co-authors" of the North Korean nuclear missile shield and in the "co-authors" of the formation of another full-fledged nuclear power.

So, according to Kim Jong-un, then the DPRK has a fully developed nuclear potential. How will North Korea take the status of a full-fledged nuclear player in the international arena, given that the so-called “international community” is allowing itself to use such definitions as “rogue state” and “state whose regime it is time to destroy” in relation to the DPRK?

It is quite understandable that the creation of a nuclear missile shield was carried out in the DPRK not at all so that, the very next day after the announcement of this creation, to carry out salvo launches of ICBMs in the United States, starting from the island of Guam. Yes, the Americans (including the forces of Tramp's rhetoric in the style of “It's time to destroy this upstart from North Korea”) have poured oil on the fire of the Korean crisis. But in Pyongyang, not idiots are sitting in order to plot the "incineration of the United States" not only in colorful pictures broadcast on local TV. Pyongyang may well begin such a game, in which it will definitely not be possible for the United States to dismiss North Korea and its interests as if it were an annoying fly. The little thought, “what if it really banged?” Sat firmly in the minds of American elites.

The first vulnerability “on the world stage” in connection with the statements of the DPRK was not discovered at all by the DPRK itself, but by its southern neighbor and, concurrently, the enemy. South Korean President Moon Jae-in stated that Pyongyang, while carrying out its missile launches, threatens the safety of athletes at the Pyeongchang Winter Olympics. According to the President of the Republic of Korea, it is necessary to create an effective security system that would offset the risks for the 2018 Games. Perhaps, for the first time in the history of human civilization, the threat to the Olympics is portrayed as a possible nuclear missile strike.

By the way, the French raised the first panic. They said in Paris that the French Olympic Committee might have to make a decision not to participate in the Fifth Republic athletes in the Winter Olympics 2018 of the year. On the Champs Elysées, French athletes are "afraid of a threat from North Korea." Apparently, someone in Paris seriously decided that Kim Jong-un would still give the order to "bang" a nuclear warhead on the object a couple of hundred kilometers from the border of the DPRK ...

These nonsense of the French, to whom official Seoul had to react, could, of course, be ignored. But “ignore” in this case, as diplomats say, is counterproductive. The situation is such that the Olympics in Pyeongchang can be a sign, first of all, for Russia and for our athletes. "Sign", rather, in quotes - for the reason that, against the background of total persecution of Russian sports, the Russian national team in South Korea can be prevented. Such statements come from sports federations, from national Olympic committees of different countries, from WADA. Given this, the French horror stories may even be useful to us ... How useful the presence of the nuclear missile potential of the DPRK, which it is called, “sags”, may also prove useful.

If a frank defamation has been started against Russia, which has even reached sports competitions, does the Russian Federation need to wipe the snot once again and keep silent? Shut up as it was with the blasphemous ban on the participation of Russians in the Paralympic Summer Games ...

If the situation really boils down to the fact that the so-called international community will once again approve of the removal of the Russian team from the Olympics, then for us there is no greater friend than Kim Jong-un ... Klin wedge, as they say. What is it all about?
1988 year. Olympic Games in Seoul. The DPRK leadership decides to boycott the Games, since the top of the IOC and South Korea have abandoned the idea of ​​holding a summer Olympics in the territory of both Koreas. In particular, the DPRK offered to hold some competitions in the framework of OI-88 and in Pyongyang. Then Albania, Cuba, Ethiopia, Nicaragua, Vietnam and Seychelles joined the boycott. Gorbachev USSR did not boycott the game. And, as the North Koreans themselves say today, the lack of support from the USSR caused a certain negative reaction, but today the DPRK understands that at that time any decisions in Moscow were made not in the interests of the USSR itself. The collapse of the country - the best proof of that. In general, nobody is angry with Russia for Gorbachev's “non-solidarity” in today's Pyongyang.

The main question is: will the DPRK send its athletes to South Korea in 2018? If Kim Jong-un remembers the principle of a unified Korea, then it is quite possible that Pyeongchang will remain without North Korean athletes. If you do not ask well ... Moreover, today is not 1988 year. Pyongyang can really create such conditions that the Winter Games will be canceled or postponed altogether. Moreover, to create "conditions" at the most inopportune moment for those who conduct the Games solely by their own rules. And for some reason it seems that the presence of North Korean and Russian athletes performing under the flags of their countries will be the guarantee for the Games in Pyeongchang.

The French, it turns out, not in vain "concerned." They understand that since Russia and the DPRK are accused of all mortal sins, then it is quite possible to expect an “otvetku” - a sort of asymmetric. Here it is worth remembering that the horror story №2 about North Korea after its “nuclear threat” is North Korean hackers. In general, for the Phyonchkhan Olympiad, only solid challenges ... Get information about the DPRK missile tests on the opening day - with the fall of the ICBM in the exclusive economic zone of South Korea, the "Friends of the DPRK" are unlikely to want. Well ... In this case, create a safety cushion, gentlemen partners. And this decision to participate in the games of athletes from the Russian Federation and the DPRK. And this is not an ultimatum of any kind. If today they frighten themselves in the absence of a threat, then what will happen tomorrow, right before the Games - eat yourself from paranoid thoughts about bombs and hackers Kim Jong Un.

So how many more ICBMs are there in store for Kim to test? ..
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  1. HEATHER
    HEATHER 30 November 2017 06: 43 New
    +7
    Well done French! At first they’ll play a dirty trick, and then- “I’m innocent, he came.”
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        1. The black
          The black 30 November 2017 09: 18 New
          26
          In general, the IOC decides to be the Russian Federation at the Olympics or not, and Kim Jong-un whether to be the Olympics laughing
          1. Andrey Yuryevich
            Andrey Yuryevich 30 November 2017 09: 42 New
            +2
            How Kim Jong-un will help the Russian team to be at the 2018 Olympics
            only in one case, if he puts forward an ultimatum to WADA, or are you justifying Russia, or I will send Hwason-15 to you ... nothing more.
            1. Antianglosax
              Antianglosax 30 November 2017 14: 43 New
              +7
              Quote: Andrew Y.
              How Kim Jong-un will help the Russian team to be at the 2018 Olympics
              only in one case, if he puts forward an ultimatum to WADA, or are you justifying Russia, or I will send Hwason-15 to you ... nothing more.

              Of course, everything will be done much thinner, but the move is not bad. The only question is whether the current “owners” of Russia have enough mind and will for this. It seems that no.
              1. Natalia777
                Natalia777 30 November 2017 15: 26 New
                +2
                The point is not in the will or in the game of Russia, but in how far the US puppeteers have gone in their madness.
          2. Ragoz
            Ragoz 4 December 2017 21: 15 New
            0
            The black:
            If the Russian Federation is banned from speaking under its own flag, then why don't we speak under the flag of the DPRK.
      2. siberalt
        siberalt 30 November 2017 10: 14 New
        +7
        Soccer player is a sale profession. There are no discoveries here because, big sport is both business and politics. hi
        1. Separ DNR
          Separ DNR 30 November 2017 11: 35 New
          +4
          Quote: siberalt
          Soccer player is a sale profession. There are no discoveries here because, big sport is both business and politics.

          So take them and drive to Tverskaya. And his, there, but after the 2018 World Cup, if they do not play. yes
          1. PSih2097
            PSih2097 30 November 2017 13: 57 New
            +4
            Quote: Separ DNR
            So take them and drive to Tverskaya.

            Now this place has been transferred from Tverskaya to Leningradskoye Shosse ... repeat
        2. midivan
          midivan 30 November 2017 18: 01 New
          +5
          Quote: siberalt
          Soccer player is a sale profession. There are no discoveries here because, big sport is both business and politics. hi

          No venal professions! There are corrupt people! And in confirmation ------ Death Match - a football match played in German-occupied Kiev in the summer of 1942 between the local and German teams. Some time after this game, a number of Kiev football players ended up in concentration camps, and some were shot.

          Most of the players in the past played for the Dynamo club (Kiev), although some players were from Kiev Lokomotiv and Odessa Spartak. In German reports on football matches, the Dynamo team was mentioned. PS - Pay attention to the geography of events wink
          1. Conductor
            Conductor 4 December 2017 21: 02 New
            0
            )))) You read less fairy tales, and ours also knew how to do PR and beautifully call the Death Match. All those who sat down or were shot at all for this match.
    2. NEXUS
      NEXUS 30 November 2017 17: 05 New
      +5
      Quote: VERESK
      Well done French! At first they’ll play a dirty trick, and then- “I’m innocent, he came.”

      There are more and more rogue countries ... I don’t know how utopian the idea of ​​the Goodwill Games is, but I think it has a right to exist ...
      As for the participation of our athletes in the Olympic Games or at the World Cup, I think that everything is just beginning and we will still discuss the topic of the World Cup in Russia. I believe that today VADER is exactly to the liking of this event too.
  2. Odysseus
    Odysseus 30 November 2017 06: 50 New
    19
    I already wrote that you need to congratulate the comrades from the DPRK on a landmark achievement. They did so and created a rocket that surely affects most of the US territory. Now the United States will not be able to bomb them with impunity.
    But here, in my opinion, there is no connection between this event and the participation of our athletes at the Olympic Games in the South Caucasus.
    DPRK can really easily make sure that the games do not take place, but the question is, why do they need it? They don’t betray much attention to the sport of higher achievements, so even if they are deprived of something there, they don’t give a damn about it. North Korea can block the Olympics if the USA and the South Caucasus take provocative actions, but most likely during the Olympics South Korea will behave quiet.
    They won’t definitely disrupt the Olympic Games only for us, or set their conduct depending on the participation of Russian athletes. More precisely, this is possible only if we offer them something extremely valuable to them.
    1. Archon
      Archon 30 November 2017 07: 02 New
      12
      For example, the complete removal of restrictions on trade and economic activity.
    2. midivan
      midivan 30 November 2017 18: 34 New
      +2
      Quote: Odyssey
      They won’t definitely disrupt the Olympic Games only for us, or set their conduct depending on the participation of Russian athletes. More precisely, this is possible only if we offer them something extremely valuable to them.

      But they don’t need much, it’s enough to announce that they are scheduled to launch during the Olympic Games and we won’t guarantee how things turn out and where they will fly. We have enough support and normal relations from us, they aren’t such a nuclear power to turn their nose from an ally, and there are not many of them, and so that they don’t say that isolation is po.ren, and at the present time it is difficult to tolerate. And we at the OI seem to be a priori an airbag, but China has not gone anywhere either, which may be quite enough and we are no longer shining here what
    3. yashka12007
      yashka12007 2 December 2017 16: 30 New
      +2
      You can give them poplar m and another s-400
  3. Korsar4
    Korsar4 30 November 2017 06: 52 New
    +4
    The title and content of those that give out wishful thinking.
  4. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 30 November 2017 06: 52 New
    +7
    Winter Games will generally be canceled or rescheduled.

    It seems it doesn’t sound real, but what does the Sly one not joke about? I can already imagine how Wada and the IOC will choke in hysteria accusing Russia of conspiring with the DPRK. The Russian proverb correctly says: "The one who laughs last laughs well."
  5. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 30 November 2017 06: 54 New
    11
    So what ? They will allow Russia to participate in the games, and then the results will be canceled! And that’s all!
  6. Azim77
    Azim77 30 November 2017 07: 03 New
    +1
    So the excuse is ready to allow the Russian Federation to the games. Frightened by the courts, realized the weakness of their evidence. Finally, we tried to take it abruptly, so that they themselves admitted, it did not work out. And the intensity of the games will be no without the Russian Federation. All the same, the main geopolitical adversary. Now they say: we are forced to admit, unforeseen circumstances, Monsieur, Misters and Sirs. North Korea’s missiles are ready. On time and by the way.
    Although they achieved it: they discredited. Those. they ate the fish, now they want it on x. to sit down.
  7. Nix1986
    Nix1986 30 November 2017 07: 08 New
    +4
    Yes, how Kim can help, it’s very simple - to give a missile a missile at Wada headquarters laughing
  8. Herculesic
    Herculesic 30 November 2017 07: 11 New
    +6
    Alexey hi with respect to North Korea you may be right, but with regard to the fact that we will be returned to the Olympic Games, I doubt it, and very much! And even more so, who will return, and in what composition, under what flag, will our anthem be performed? ??
    1. Mikhalych 70
      Mikhalych 70 4 December 2017 22: 24 New
      +1
      And without a flag and anthem, there is nothing to do there. And those who travel, let them receive payments in a neutral country. For "sports businessmen", I think this will be a determining factor.
      Although, personally to me, I really like “Farewell of the Slav”. It mobilizes.
  9. inkass_98
    inkass_98 30 November 2017 07: 19 New
    +1
    So it’s possible to reach insanity altogether: the insidious Terran specially raised a chubby Eun in the secret laboratories of the NKVD-KGB, and then killed his brother with a poisonous handkerchief, eliminating his rival for the throne, sponsored the development of nuclear missile weapons in the DPRK, so that the Russian team would be allowed to the Olympics in the Republic of Kazakhstan.
    Too complicated multi-path is obtained.
  10. Altona
    Altona 30 November 2017 07: 45 New
    16
    Wedge Eunom kicked out. In general, the North Korean leader is admirable, although they are trying to arrange for obstruction from all sides. Having come to power, he did not prove himself to be a crown prince or barchuk, who came to reign. He quickly unscrewed the heads of his non-systemic opposition, including his uncle and how many cousins ​​there, organized the finalization of the nuclear missile shield and brought this matter to an end. Now the DPRK has nuclear charges of various capacities and sizes, including thermonuclear ones. Missiles have become a sight for sore eyes in comparison with homegrown crafts of another 10 years ago. Hwason-15 can overcome 13 thousand km and confidently hit any object in the United States or Europe. So, smartphones say? Do you want modern missiles?
    1. Chaos
      Chaos 30 November 2017 12: 10 New
      0
      Found someone to admire. Dictator.
      1. Yanakolos
        Yanakolos 30 November 2017 15: 51 New
        +5
        Listen, it, you tell people living in North Korea this. And here, add that you, slogan, admire the red-headed clown Trump, well, you are proud of the Russian opposition, just the same you are blinking away from.yavlin.ya bulk.webbed the] h) a [/ b] chki and ho (dorko)
        1. Chaos
          Chaos 30 November 2017 16: 12 New
          0
          you rave, check T)) People from the North Cor work in the Russian Federation, I saw them, watched, talked. SLAVES !!! But Eun is getting fat and fat. And you, get out in the sowing cor. Live there. You won’t go. I think trump is cunning. Read what I wrote about Sobchak, Yavlinsky. Well, why are you so stupid))) or stupid. you do not understand LGBDshnikov)))
      2. seal78
        seal78 30 November 2017 17: 12 New
        +7
        A true leader of a country cannot be anything but a dictator. There is no more effective form of management. Look at the "free" USA.
        1. Chaos
          Chaos 30 November 2017 20: 01 New
          0
          Examples of scientific and technological progress for people call in dictatorial countries. I will call you in free countries. Japan, South Korea, Germany, etc. The standard of living is high. Worship some dictator - the torso that will someday die and rot in the ground. Your slave psychology. And you are a freeloader, there’s nothing to think about, you are waiting for everything ready to be brought to you. This will not happen. We must always think about how and where to work, what to do in order to provide for ourselves and our family. Do not look with your eyes at the United States. They emigrate there. From dictatorial countries streams flee.
          1. seal78
            seal78 1 December 2017 11: 14 New
            +4
            Oh well. None of the countries you have listed is independent. All of them lie tightly under the United States and exist on US money. Without the USA, they are simply nothing. The United States, in fact, is a police state. And his president had never decided anything on his own, but now he’s just a clown. There is a bickering upstairs, they are trying to blame the president in different ways, there is no unity in the leadership. It is terrible to imagine what will happen to them if there is a real war against the United States, with a real combat-ready army, in the United States.
            1. Chaos
              Chaos 1 December 2017 17: 01 New
              0
              Well, already Kazakhstan is switching to the Latin alphabet. Also falls under the usa?
              1. Mikhalych 70
                Mikhalych 70 4 December 2017 22: 34 New
                +1
                "Chaos" ! Can you imagine Kazakhstan ?! Well, not Astana and Alma-Ata (Almaty) ?! Outback ?! Until the Latin reaches there, mammoths in the third circle on earth will appear! Yes, and, there was a Latin ... In the 20s. If I am mistaken, let comrades correct me. If there is a lot of Chinese money, why would the elites not relearn ... Although, cursing, anyway, will be in "Russia".
          2. yashka12007
            yashka12007 2 December 2017 16: 37 New
            +2
            That was healthy after dictatorship in Iraq and Libya, well, solid democracy and prosperity of the people
  11. Kleber
    Kleber 30 November 2017 08: 09 New
    +5
    This is not analytics. The author gave out wishful thinking.
  12. ibnvladimir
    ibnvladimir 30 November 2017 08: 22 New
    +5
    And why do they have rockets flying, but not so? crying
    1. DMoroz
      DMoroz 30 November 2017 09: 33 New
      +8
      but because if they don’t have a rocket Eun will unscrew the heads of the entire team of developers and manufacturers, and our dough cuts will be closed with an unsuccessful launch and they will ask for more money. And what is surprising they will give them ...
      1. Mikhalych 70
        Mikhalych 70 4 December 2017 22: 36 New
        0
        According to Soloviev, they said today that Rogozin received 3.14 editions ... From DAM.
  13. Altona
    Altona 30 November 2017 08: 55 New
    12
    Quote: Herkulesich
    but regarding the fact that we will be returned to the Olympic Games, I doubt it, and very much!

    ----------------------------
    Does it make sense to return to such an Olympic Games and even regret it? And then take the prize place, which you will be taken away at any moment under the pretext of "anti-doping." Compete with individuals of dubious sexual orientation, taking energy and drugs as supposedly sick. The IOC decided to turn onto a slippery political path and make the racial law of the Third Reich an Olympic Charter. It is hardly worth participating in such Games.
    1. helmi8
      helmi8 4 December 2017 23: 42 New
      +1
      Quote: Altona
      Compete with individuals of dubious sexual orientation, taking energy and drugs as supposedly sick.

      Here with those?
  14. Stalnov I.P.
    Stalnov I.P. 30 November 2017 09: 17 New
    17
    Ah yes KIM, I respect - MUZHIK, is included in the elite of rulers such as LENIN, STALIN, ROOSEVELT, FIDEL, MAO DZE DUNG, put his big, Korean SUBJECT on the Anglo-Saxons. Now the question is now to our government, but do we need to support these Western prostitutes who have imposed and are introducing sanctions against us, and not look at it all from the side, let them flounder in this swamp that we ourselves have created, we will be on the principle "AND THIS IS US NEED "?
  15. bandabas
    bandabas 30 November 2017 09: 40 New
    0
    This is normal. We will answer with “Kostolom” and “Obelix” “in the mirror”.
  16. Old26
    Old26 30 November 2017 10: 44 New
    +2
    Quote: Altona
    Hwason-15 can overcome 13 thousand km and confidently hit any object in the United States or Europe.

    Nobody knows this yet.
    DPRK is known to have missiles capable of reaching America
    It is known that North Korea has nuclear and possibly thermonuclear charges.
    But there is still a small, let's say so intimate detail. Will the rocket get from the charges of the United States. After all, all these tests are unknown with what, possibly with the complete absence of a “payload”, as it was in one of such vertical tests of the previous model, and launches with real mass size are another. And there were no such launches, all the more to the maximum range. They will get to Japan with a guarantee, and then everything will be written "on the water with a pitchfork." PR is certainly powerful
    1. andj61
      andj61 30 November 2017 11: 34 New
      +3
      Quote: Old26
      Quote: Altona
      Hwason-15 can overcome 13 thousand km and confidently hit any object in the United States or Europe.

      Nobody knows this yet.
      DPRK is known to have missiles capable of reaching America
      It is known that North Korea has nuclear and possibly thermonuclear charges.
      But there is still a small, let's say so intimate detail. Will the rocket get from the charges of the United States. After all, all these tests are unknown with what, possibly with the complete absence of a “payload”, as it was in one of such vertical tests of the previous model, and launches with real mass size are another. And there were no such launches, all the more to the maximum range. They will get to Japan with a guarantee, and then everything will be written "on the water with a pitchfork." PR is certainly powerful

      And the United States does not need to be reached. How many nuclear charges does the DPRK have? From 10-15 (pessimistic forecast) to 30-40 (optimistic)? Remember - this is all! And how many medium-range and strategic missiles? Also not hundreds, most likely - units. So the likely reality is a few strikes in the Pacific around the Hawaiian area. Further, especially, if the explosions are underwater at a depth of about 1000 m, the tsunami wave will orderly destroy the US infrastructure in Hawaii and the west coast, and Japan will get it. And everyone understands this perfectly. And no one wants such a development of events.
      By the way - meeting the many wishes of the regulars of VO bully Eun can plan a strike on the caldera of the Yellowstone volcano - it’s quite possible to get there, with a diameter of more than 100 km. And this can really threaten the existence of the United States. hi
      1. seal78
        seal78 30 November 2017 17: 17 New
        0
        Quote: andj61
        on the caldera of the Yellowstone volcano - it’s quite possible to get there, with a diameter of more than 100 km. And this can really threaten the existence of the United States.

        And not only the USA!
    2. BecmepH
      BecmepH 30 November 2017 13: 00 New
      0
      Quote: Old26
      Nobody knows this yet.

      And, I think, no one wants to test in practice
  17. X Y Z
    X Y Z 30 November 2017 11: 20 New
    +7
    The alignment depicted by the author could exist if “Tolstoyans” and “non-resistance”, who were more worried about their career future, were not at the head of our sport. They dream to come to an agreement! And this obsession destroys all schemes and layouts. It is difficult to expect sharp movements on their part and we are forced to listen to stories such as "how bad they are" instead of adequate actions ...
  18. prior
    prior 30 November 2017 11: 22 New
    +3
    Do not make Kim Jong-un an idiot. He is trying as best he can to protect his country.
    The fact that the French have taken pity ... is their national trait, known since the time of Napoleon, Hitler and the campaign of the carrier de Gaulle to the war with ISIS.
    The question is different, how long will Russia tolerate spitting and humiliation from the IOC, Wada and other gay people?
    Why should our athletes participate in such an Olympiad, the awards won at which you can unprovenly take away? Champions ! Do you really need such rewards? for speaking under a neutral flag?
    The fame and "popular love" Rodchenkova seduces?
    1. seal78
      seal78 30 November 2017 17: 06 New
      +4
      Quote: prior
      how long will Russia tolerate spitting and humiliation from the IOC, Wada and others

      And not just endure, but also pay money for it! After all, Russia continues to pay money for the maintenance of these "organizations"! What kind of masochism is this, I can’t understand.
  19. The Siberian barber
    The Siberian barber 30 November 2017 13: 53 New
    +3
    Uniquely boycott!
    Although, what am I talking about ?? (The ranks from the sport, after all, they spent so much time on the approval of the uniform for the Olympic team (Glamor drives .. ((
  20. Altona
    Altona 30 November 2017 14: 53 New
    0
    Quote: Old26
    Nobody knows this yet.
    DPRK is known to have missiles capable of reaching America

    ------------------------------------
    The missile gained 4,5 thousand kilometers along the steepest path, along a flatter distance it will be 2-2,5 times more.
    1. DPN
      DPN 4 December 2017 20: 08 New
      0
      KIM well done fly with him, and as we already know, insurance is more expensive than the prestige of Russia, so that mathematics can be a great let down.
  21. Altona
    Altona 30 November 2017 14: 55 New
    +1
    Quote: andj61
    How many nuclear charges does the DPRK have? From 10-15 (pessimistic forecast) to 30-40 (optimistic)? Remember - this is all!

    ---------------------------
    And how much fusion? Total. If 10-15 as you say, then the US East Coast simply will not.
  22. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 30 November 2017 15: 28 New
    +1
    Transfer games to the most prepared city ... That's right, in Sochi.
    1. seal78
      seal78 30 November 2017 17: 08 New
      +1
      I agree. With the deprivation of the right to participate in them citizens of all states supporting the persecution of our athletes.
  23. 981698
    981698 30 November 2017 15: 28 New
    +1
    Pretty boy!
  24. Sasha71
    Sasha71 30 November 2017 15: 36 New
    +3
    In this case, it is necessary to punish presumptuous politicians not with the nuclear threat of the North Koreans, but with lawsuits in international courts and arbitration. I wonder what enemies are sitting in the seats of the Ministry of Sports !? Already 4 years ago they were supposed to bombard the courts with million and billionth lawsuits against organizations and specific individuals responsible for lawlessness against Russian sports. Why do they eat bread and for whom do they work? (Or do they just decide their affairs?) And the nuclear threat in this case ideologically works against Russia. This is a clumsy and short-sighted idea for the crowd.
  25. Mainsteering
    Mainsteering 30 November 2017 15: 47 New
    0
    [/ quote] It is noted that the rocket rose to a height of 4,5 thousand km. [quote]


    In my search. Or not ? )))
  26. Woldemar
    Woldemar 30 November 2017 16: 07 New
    0
    and then what are we sticking to the North Koreans?
  27. seal78
    seal78 30 November 2017 17: 04 New
    0
    Horror story number 2 about North Korea after its "nuclear threat" - North Korean hackers.

    Where are the “hackers" in the DPRK if there are no computers or the Internet?
  28. Grandfather Eugene
    Grandfather Eugene 30 November 2017 18: 18 New
    +2
    No, they won’t help if they only shoot the IOC and control the appointment of independent new ones by the organs of the GB. The games from which they made the next Eurovision do not deserve any participation, the medals are not worth a penny, to be lower than their dignity.
  29. 1536
    1536 1 December 2017 05: 29 New
    0
    The French seem to believe in Little Red Riding Hood and Boy Spalchik. Happy people.
  30. Old26
    Old26 1 December 2017 10: 04 New
    +5
    Quote: andj61
    And the United States does not need to be reached. How many nuclear charges does the DPRK have? From 10-15 (pessimistic forecast) to 30-40 (optimistic)? Remember - this is all! And how many medium-range and strategic missiles? Also not hundreds, most likely - units. So the likely reality is a few strikes in the Pacific around the Hawaiian area. Further, especially, if the explosions are underwater at a depth of about 1000 m, the tsunami wave will orderly destroy the US infrastructure in Hawaii and the west coast, and Japan will get it. And everyone understands this perfectly. And no one wants such a development of events.
    By the way - meeting the many wishes of the regulars of VO bully Eun can plan a strike on the caldera of the Yellowstone volcano - it’s quite possible to get there, with a diameter of more than 100 km. And this can really threaten the existence of the United States.

    As for nuclear charges, Andrei - the truth is somewhere nearby. The most realistic is a figure of 15-20 than the figure of 30-40 or even 60, as American sources say. This figure is based primarily on the power of the reactor and its capabilities.
    The number of missiles can sometimes be in the hundreds, at least several dozen, but the number of launchers is sometimes 10-20 times less than the missiles themselves. And it turns out that missiles, for example, 500 pieces, and only 30 launchers.

    But when you start reading about Eun's "answers" to the machinations of the American imperialists, it sometimes becomes sad. It seems that people are adults, and the resource itself does not oblige you to write nonsense, but this happens, and often.

    Do not be offended, comrade, that I chose your answer as an object for analysis, but you, by a happy coincidence, all this "nonsense" turned out to be in almost two sentences, and I could not resist, so as not to give some particularly ardent comrades an answer. It doesn’t concern you, it’s just that I’m lucky that in your post exactly these “fake” sets of Kim’s response actions (or not responding, but preemptive) converged. Not in this case

    So, let's take a look at these "response sets"so that you no longer try to write about them, giving out your insufficient knowledge in this area

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    Quote: andj61
    ... So the probable reality is a few strikes in the Pacific around the Hawaiian region.


    If Eun does, no matter whether it is Hawaiian Islands or Guam, the main thing is that it be the ocean, then his kmk will simply be trampled like a mammoth. And the first in this line to stomp will not be the Americans, but the Chinese. The members of the "nuclear club" do not care how the "young" act. And here, in this case, Eun will violate such a fundamental agreement as a test ban in three environments: in the air, in the ocean and space. What could be called "case law" will come into effect. The next country may be the same Taiwan, which enjoys the ardent love of the Chinese. Taiwan will break into nuclear weapons and a nuclear test explosion will shandarah somewhere in the strait between Taiwan and China. Moreover, the "excuse" because it will be iron: why is it possible for North Korea, but not for us?

    Or will Iran want to test its charge in the Persian Gulf or the Caspian? With exactly the same "excuse" - why is North Korea possible, but we cannot. Or the same Georgia, or Ukraine. It’s clear that I’m exaggerating somewhat, but with such a test explosion (in the Hawaii or Guam area) the DPRK will break the whole shaky nuclear deterrence system, namely the ban on trials in three environments. No one will allow this. Neither the US nor Russia with China. Eun can do anything on his territory. It can even test a 100 megaton bomb, or a gigaton bomb, and turn the Korean peninsula into an island. This is his problems. But in the ocean - no way. They will kill like a mammoth

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    Quote: andj61
    Further, especially, if the explosions are underwater at a depth of about 1000 m, the tsunami wave will orderly destroy the US infrastructure in Hawaii and the west coast, and Japan will get it. And everyone understands this perfectly. And no one wants such a development of events.

    The next most commonly used misconception. Nuclear explosion, especially underwater DOES NOT CAUSE TSUNAMI. From the word AT ALL.
    Tsunami - this is primarily a long (and high, of course) wave generated by the powerful impact on the entire thickness of the waters as a result of a strong earthquake that causes a shift in lithospheric plates, that is, their rise or lowering. The power of such an earthquake that generates a tsunami can be calculated, according to experts, by dozens, if not hundreds GIGATONN translated into TNT equivalent.

    As a result of an underwater nuclear explosion, a wave arises. Concentric Tidal, or as it is sometimes called, a base wave. Yes, it can be significant, but maybe not. In particular, blown up at a depth of order 200 meters charge of 100 megatons will cause such a wave.
    At a distance of approximately 10 km from the site of the explosion the height of such a wave will be of the order 450 meters.
    On distance in 20 km - already about 230 metersat a distance of 100 km the height will be already half a hundred meters. On distance 200 km - 20 meters.
    And at a distance of 900 km - generally 4-5 meters.
    Whether it will cause harm to the coastal infrastructure, like the tsunami, depends primarily on the bottom profile near the shore, the power of the detonated device, the depth at which it was blown up and the distance of the infrastructure object from the place of the explosion.,

    Tests conducted by Americans in the Pacific Ocean showed that if you blow 100 ct charge at a depth of 100 meters (you offer 1000 m) then at a distance of approximately 550 meters from the point of the explosion, the wave height will be of the order 54 meters. On distance in 2 km - 13 meters, and in the distance 24 km - only 0,5 meters, that is, 50 centimeters.
    So the dreams of many comrades about a tsunami from a nuclear explosion that can wash away everything and everything are somewhat exaggerated

    Quote: andj61
    By the way - meeting the many wishes of the regulars of VO bully Eun can plan a strike on the caldera of the Yellowstone volcano - it’s quite possible to get there, with a diameter of more than 100 km. And this can really threaten the existence of the United States.

    And now regarding the explosion of the Yellowstone volcano. The most beloved example on VO.
    Not only that, the experts themselves do not know when the eruption of this volcano can occur (after 10 years or after 50 thousand years) and diverge in the power of this eruption. Either there will be a small eruption somewhere on the periphery of the caldera, or a catastrophic eruption. In addition, the same experts cannot say what the nuclear charge is, which fell into the mouth of the volcano and exploded there to initiate the eruption. Either 10 kt is enough, or 10 megatons, or maybe the charge power should be equivalent to gigatons.

    As for the caldera of the volcano so beloved in the VO, one should not forget that in order to initiate such an eruption, one must at least break through the rock arch located above the magma bubble. Then the volcano shies with all its proletarian hatred.
    But there is one small but tiny. Namely. The thickness of this arch, according to various estimates, varies in different areas of the caldera from 8 to 16 km.

    If we take 100 megaton charge. Install it on the ground and explode, then according to calculations the funnel will be depth somewhere about 2 km. Even such a charge will not break through the arch. Will remain at least 6 km breeds (and maximum in general 14) Those who dream. that Eun in any 100 ct charge initiates a volcano explosion understand this ??? I'm afraid not

    And now about the consequences. Dreamers of the explosion of this volcano should not forget that if it explodes, then the furry northern animal will come not only in the USA, but also in other countries of the world. Such a giant explosion of a supervolcano will lead to the explosion of the remaining supervolcanoes of the planet. And their according to the most conservative estimates now found 10. Shandarahnet is such a volcano on the Japanese islands. What will happen to Japan - I do not presume to predict, but I'm afraid that nothing good. The explosion initiates a large number of earthquakes, including catastrophic ones. Some islands will go under water. There will be our beloved tsunamis in VO, which will wash away our Primorye to everything else. Shandarahnet is the same supervolcano in Kamchatka. Of course, it is smaller than the American one, the caldera is only 35-40 km, but I'm afraid that Kamchatka will cease to exist, at best it will split. With all of our submarine bases. What will happen to the Kuril Islands and what will get to Sakhalin - think for yourself. Volcanoes will wake up, even those that we consider extinct. The supervolcano in Europe will also bring many surprises to everyone. Well, the fact that thousands or even tens of thousands of cubic kilometers of ash will be lifted into the atmosphere, which will cover the Sun for several years and the equivalent of a “nuclear” winter with an unpredictable temperature will come - these are consequences. So that, "spite grandmother frostbitten ears". blowing up the Yellowstone volcano ????
  31. iouris
    iouris 1 December 2017 13: 41 New
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    If the Olympics take place, the DPRK does not pose a real threat to the United States.
  32. chidoryan
    chidoryan 2 December 2017 13: 37 New
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    How will Kim Jong-un help the Russian team to be at the 2018 Olympics?
    Answer: NO
  33. Awaz
    Awaz 2 December 2017 18: 32 New
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    not tired of inventing excuses? I get the impression that, besides the fact that we have stupid sports officials, this problem is joined by the fact that the athletes do not understand the situation. After Legkov’s disqualification, all athletes had to make statements to the IOC and to Kreml and the sports federations that they refused to participate in the Olympic Games until legally substantiated evidence of fraud by Legkov and all other Russian athletes was provided, or they were not brought apologies and compensation to all victims illegally.
    Do athletes not understand if they even go to Korea and suddenly win there, is it not the fact that their results will be canceled and they will most likely be blamed for anything? Or they think that they are lucky and Putin will give a cool car after ... Haha, you need to humiliate yourself like that ...
  34. akm8226
    akm8226 3 December 2017 15: 17 New
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    The question is this - our participation under our own flag is not even discussed. Any other option designed to save the IOC’s ass, let it go in the same ass. I believe that this is the reason for our silence - we are waiting for the official summary of the IOC. If the IOC wants to commit suicide - we ask for favors, but without Russia. But then do not be offended by us.
  35. Conductor
    Conductor 4 December 2017 21: 04 New
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    1. I will not say the status of WADA and its powers for the juridical, but can I say to the Russian Federation that it does not recognize the existence of WADA at all, and especially its conclusions. 2. Does it not seem that the Olympic Games in the format that right now have simply become obsolete.
  36. Mikhalych 70
    Mikhalych 70 4 December 2017 21: 59 New
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    Exceptionally thought after work. Unfortunately, it seems to me that in the foreseeable future, the entire foreign and domestic policy will be determined by the Elections. Although, again, in my personal sense, which is called IMHO, the electorate "with a feeling of deep satisfaction (for those who remember this) would support the demarche in the form of a boycott of the UI, or the provision of Nishtyak Unu, to promote the national team under the national flag.
  37. Mikhalych 70
    Mikhalych 70 4 December 2017 22: 54 New
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    Maybe they’ll let ours go to the OI ?!
  38. Mikhalych 70
    Mikhalych 70 4 December 2017 22: 56 New
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    or so ...
  39. Mikhalych 70
    Mikhalych 70 4 December 2017 23: 04 New
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    The opinion is not mine. Found on the web.

    Evgeni Vladimirov
    Evgeni Vladimirov4 hours ago
    Russia, as a country, needs to do as the USSR did in the 80s .. It left the IOC, took all its contributions from these organizations, and agreed with other countries and held its Olympics in Moscow .. Immediately the question itself decided .. IOC, he himself came to the USSR, with a request to restore all ties, on the conditions of the USSR .. Russia needs to disperse the Russian Olympic Committee, only the bribe-takers and greedy people concentrated there .. They want Russia to give them money for their comfortable existence .. In words they are against the actions of the IOC, but in reality they are battle They want to lose their money places and pull the rubber, trying to persuade the Russian people, supposedly they can solve something with the IOC .. In fact, everything is getting worse and worse ... The country's leadership, and in particular to PRESIDENT PUTIN, must make a MILITARY political decision, REFUSE from the participation of COUNTRY RUSSIA in the Olympic Games, in view of the discrimination of Russia by IOC members, to withdraw their funds from the IOC, and to ignore all these false sports games .. Russia should not conduct any courts in the western territories (privately, let every sportsman be for his money if they want to be served in western courts), there is nothing to support with their money the WHOLE army of Western Lawyers (lawyers, experts, judges, investigators) who want to earn extra money on the situation created by them .. Russia has something to do besides holding the Olympics comic, and be there publicly flogged by various BREAKERS from sports, and politics)))