70 years, as the UN GA adopted a plan for the actual creation of an independent Israel

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Today, November 29, marks exactly 70 years since the vote on the adoption of Resolution No. XXUMX - the plan for the partition of Palestine by the UN General Assembly. The adoption of this plan took place at the second session of the GA of the young United Nations. The plan, in particular, stated that the territory is divided into two parts, and Jerusalem receives the status of an international city under the UN administration.

They actively supported the UN plan to divide Palestine into Arab and Jewish components in the Soviet Union. It is precisely because of the position taken in the 1947 year of the USSR that the state of Israel finally appeared on the world map.



70 years, as the UN GA adopted a plan for the actual creation of an independent Israel


In the West 70 years ago, newspapers wrote that they did not expect such a step from the Soviet leadership. In the end, everything was written off on the desire of the Soviet Union to shake the position of Britain in the Middle East. How really these positions have been shaken is a big question. However, the fact remains that the Soviet side at one time made considerable efforts for Israel to become a full-fledged subject of international law.



In order to inflict a kind of informational blow to the USSR, at the end of the 40s of the last century, materials began to appear in the western editions, in which it was reported that there was “no logic in the actions of Moscow”. This “lack of logic”, in the opinion of Western experts, was that the USSR voted for the creation of a Jewish state at the UN and “infringes on the rights of Jews” within the country.

The USSR became the first state to recognize Israeli independence. The Soviet Union (through the socialist bloc of Eastern Europe) also supported the Israeli struggle for sovereignty, including the supply of arms, with Joseph Stalin personally taking an active position on this issue.
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  1. +7
    29 November 2017 11: 25
    they wanted to make candy, but it turned out ... well, what happened negative and even in all shooting and from all requiring, if not money, then support stop
    1. +3
      29 November 2017 11: 33
      73 years plus 7 months and there will be a kayuk wassat I put 30 shekels on Nostradamus am
      1. +6
        29 November 2017 11: 38
        hi Join.
        1. +8
          29 November 2017 11: 44
          More accurately, gentlemen !!! hi
          There is a chance to be accused of anti-Semitism ... wink
          1. +17
            29 November 2017 11: 50
            And I congratulate the Israelites on the holiday smile
            1. +4
              29 November 2017 11: 56
              Well, firstly, the question of creating the Jewish state of Israel, presumably, was decided not only by Stalin, but also by his party circle.
            2. +5
              29 November 2017 12: 14
              Quote: Black
              And I congratulate the Israelites on the holiday smile

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          1. +13
            29 November 2017 12: 01
            In fact, the state of Israel was created, in tandem of the USA and the USSR, as a counterweight country to the then Middle Eastern colonial states of the British Empire .... True, the Jews themselves do not really like to recall this fact ...
            1. +7
              29 November 2017 12: 18
              hi
              Quote: Penalty
              True, the Jews themselves do not really like to recall this fact ...

              Well, yes, "selective amnesia" in medical terms. wink
            2. +12
              29 November 2017 12: 31
              We don’t care why the UN countries voted in favor.
              In any case, we are grateful to everyone who voted in favor. drinks good .
              But even if everyone voted “against,” Israel would still be
              would be exalted in Tel Aviv. The de facto state has already acted and worked,
              with all institutes of civil administration, economy, taxes, supreme authority, army, police.
              1. +12
                29 November 2017 12: 36
                The de facto state has already acted and worked

                Like the LPR and the DPR now, but in fact no one recognizes their independence ...
                It all depends on who "raises a hand" for you.
              2. +4
                29 November 2017 12: 56
                it remains only to add "as I remember now"
                1. +6
                  29 November 2017 13: 06
                  My wife and I love to walk around the proclamation of Israel
                  (Tel Aviv was also founded in 1909). Boulevard, restaurants, cafes, a pleasant place.
                  Here is a photo of that day:


                  The house is preserved. Not a palace, of course ... we did not build palaces.
                  1. +6
                    29 November 2017 14: 42
                    No, in general, I want to tell you a banal thing, but patriotism is still good, and of course you also need to love yourself and your loved ones. Everything is all right with you and you need to learn this in general.
                  2. +3
                    29 November 2017 22: 37
                    Alexei, of course, I congratulate you ... Are you talking about a pleasant place? Why unpleasant? Warm sea, mild climate, though there are no natural resources, even palm trees are counted, but these are trifles, we’ll "borrow" from our neighbors. You would have been in 1941 on November 7 to Red Square with a PTR on your shoulder ...
      2. +1
        29 November 2017 12: 59
        Quote: hrych
        73 years plus 7 months and there will be a kayuk wassat I put 30 shekels on Nostradamus am

        I wouldn’t be in a hurry No. tenacious Yes even though they are cut alive from birth feel
    2. +4
      29 November 2017 11: 36
      The most interesting thing is which Jews were then settled by Israel. Maybe in the USSR because they were “crushed” so that they knew where to move? hi
      1. +4
        29 November 2017 11: 45
        Quote: siberalt
        Maybe in the USSR because they were “crushed” so that they knew where to move?

        And, as you wanted, to drive half of the diaspora from its settled and satisfying places, send the Negev to the desert, and even fight for the Suez Canal, and the oil interests of the West. In RI, they inherited with crimes, the most harmful Stalin even before the war cleared up, and it was very good ... In the West, they are not old, and in the East, Russians, where to go to the kibbutznik, America took the rich and useful.
        1. +11
          29 November 2017 12: 05
          well ... America has taken the rich and wholesome
          .... smart moved to Israel, and fools remained in Russia ... wink
      2. +5
        29 November 2017 12: 03
        Quote: siberalt
        The most interesting thing is which Jews were then settled by Israel. Maybe in the USSR because they were “crushed” so that they knew where to move? hi

        And why then they were not given the opportunity to travel there freely to the Jews. In general, I have already written more than once that the USSR could have a reliable ally in the BV if in 1948 it had organized mass repatriation of Jews to Israel.
        1. +12
          29 November 2017 12: 32
          But in the USSR, Jews were not allowed to go abroad?
          The rest in those years left the country freely?
        2. +8
          29 November 2017 12: 44
          The USSR could have in BV a reliable ally
          .... You, I apologize, do you believe it yourself? Having regained its independence and freedom, to bend again under the imperial ambitions of the USSR is not sure. Stalin knew about this ....
          1. +1
            29 November 2017 14: 07
            After an attempted extermination by the Arabs, the Jews would have done such a thing for the sake of military assistance and a guarantee of survival. But history went a different way.
        3. +7
          29 November 2017 16: 21
          Did anyone forbid? The father of a classmate dumped there calmly in the early 80s. I don’t know the details, but Jin said - he’ll come back, damn it, will not go anywhere. The technical school where he worked was very worried, for the teacher was, as they say, from God. So, after 5 years, he returned! And after that, Gene was taken to the nuclear power plant, which he always dreamed of drinks I once asked him - why don’t you tear yourself, you have a useful education, you won’t be lost there! He - does not pull anywhere from his homeland (married, though German). Here, our man, is real! Does not change the homeland for shekels!
          From childhood - somehow Jin came running to my house, brandishing Izvestia. You, screaming, read already ?! Our 2 Phantoms failed! I read. Syrian air defense shot down violators of the country's airspace. Jin to me - well, do you understand that it was not the Syrians who worked there?
          I ... knee, what nationality my friend, we are one people. And who replaced the Motherland with shekels, hold the flag in your hands! And the "Israel" project, as it was created from the outside, can be closed at any time. I will not worry drinks
        4. +4
          29 November 2017 20: 28
          I don’t know how under Stalin, but under Brezhnev and until the mid-90s, only Jews alone could leave the country. Such is the discrimination.
          1. +1
            30 November 2017 00: 27
            Quote: Anton
            under Brezhnev and until the mid-90s, Jews alone could leave the country. Such is the discrimination.

            But you could easily enter the KGB school and a number of other closed universities. You are indigenous nationality, and we are only national leaders for you.
            1. +1
              30 November 2017 05: 14
              Quote: alexsipin
              But you could easily enter the KGB school and a number of other closed universities. You are an indigenous nationality, and we are just national minorities for you.

              “Sayanim” was not invented by Russians, so make claims
              1. +2
                30 November 2017 19: 18
                Quote: user1212
                “Sayanim” was not invented by Russians, so make claims

                Well, if you declare a whole nation disloyal, then why keep it? Release him. So no, they kept it until the last, until the USSR collapsed. By the way, look how many traitors of Russian nationality were in the KGB and GRU. Loyalty is not related to nationality.
    3. 0
      29 November 2017 12: 30
      yeah, it’s kind of wrapped in a candy wrapper.
    4. Maz
      +3
      29 November 2017 19: 59
      Bae ezrat asham - hell mea esrim! Nekhai zhivet dytyn IVS before 120, and gave a boost, with God's help.
      בעזרת השם - עד מאה ועשרים
      1. +1
        29 November 2017 22: 32
        Quote: Maz
        Bae ezrat asham - hell mea esrim! Nekhai zhivet dytyn IVS before 120, and gave a boost, with God's help.
        בעזרת השם - עד מאה ועשרים

        Thank you.
    5. 0
      29 November 2017 21: 23
      It seems that every nation has the right to its independent state. Moreover, Israel did it very well, which cannot be said about our multinational power.
  2. +14
    29 November 2017 11: 42
    Quote: iza top
    they wanted to make candy, but it turned out ... well, what happened negative and even in all shooting and from all requiring, if not money, then support stop

    What happened there? Hundreds of years weaned, gained strength and anger, took the land by force, forced the creation of the state. They defeated the superior enemy forces; they did not attack the USSR / Russia, unlike the bearded men besieging their borders. The interests of their state are respected, on May 9 they celebrate, our exes are full of them. What's wrong?
    1. +5
      29 November 2017 11: 46
      how what's wrong? we have a mess, and who is to blame? hell is clear, the Jews. Why? because ...
      1. +3
        29 November 2017 11: 55
        It’s like, but I haven’t reached my scanty mind, intellect is not enough! wink
      2. +2
        30 November 2017 13: 45
        vanavatny
        how what's wrong? we have a mess, and who is to blame? hell is clear, the Jews. Why? because ...
        ... that they left tongue laughing fellow
  3. +1
    29 November 2017 11: 50
    Question.
    On the map given in the article, the border passes beyond the Sea of ​​Galilee, including, in fact, the Golan Heights within the borders of "that" Palestine.
    So whose affiliations were the Golan expulsions before the formation of the modern state of Israel?
    Or is it just a hoax due to the difference in scale and error of the cartographers.
    1. +4
      29 November 2017 14: 45
      Quote: Livonetc
      Question.
      On the map given in the article, the border passes beyond the Sea of ​​Galilee, including, in fact, the Golan Heights within the borders of "that" Palestine.
      So whose affiliations were the Golan expulsions before the formation of the modern state of Israel?
      Or is it just a hoax due to the difference in scale and error of the cartographers.

      On the map of Mandatory Palestine, the Golan (or whatever they are in Arabic) were intended for the formation of the Jewish and Arab states, but not for Syria. The British state was created by the Britons without finding an emu, even in Arabic names, and the rest they decided to divide again into Jewish and Arabic. The Golan (or whatever it is in Arabic) was given through the French to Syria.
  4. +1
    29 November 2017 11: 59
    Somehow strange divided Palestine. Well, surely the Jews brought in whoever needed it. And the Arabs were not asked.
    1. +5
      29 November 2017 13: 02
      Arabs, for that matter, are not an indigenous population. They took this land rightfully strong. Then the Jews in 1949, according to the same fundamental right, took. Try take it! wink
  5. +1
    29 November 2017 12: 04
    over these 70 years, the territory of this entity has increased at least 2 times.
    1. +2
      29 November 2017 12: 38
      Anyway, the map is not visible. recourse
      And the population has grown - 25 times. Exceeding 2-3 times the Jewish population of Israel
      in the 1st century AD, when Israel was part of the Roman Empire.
  6. +5
    29 November 2017 12: 07
    "... the USSR became the first state to recognize Israeli independence. The Soviet Union (through the socialist bloc of Eastern Europe) supported the Israeli struggle for sovereignty, including the supply of arms - with an active position on this issue on the part of Joseph Stalin personally. "

    Interested in. And where is Tel Aviv’s square, Stalin Avenue or the street, where there is a monument to the honorary citizen Joseph Vissarionovich, where the grateful Israelis lay flowers and where they say words of gratitude?
    1. +2
      29 November 2017 14: 10
      Quote: cedar
      Interested in. And where is Tel Aviv’s square, Stalin Avenue or the street, where there is a monument to the honorary citizen Joseph Vissarionovich, where the grateful Israelis lay flowers and where they say words of gratitude?

      For what ? This was not a gesture of goodwill, but a joint squeezing of the British from the region with the United States. After the Union massively supplied the Arabs with weapons and technicians, what gratitude would be there.
    2. +2
      29 November 2017 21: 23
      Quote: cedar
      Interested in. And where is Tel Aviv’s square, Stalin Avenue or the street, where there is a monument to the honorary citizen Joseph Vissarionovich, where the grateful Israelis lay flowers and where they say words of gratitude?


      Interested in. And where in Moscow square, Stalin Avenue or the street where there is a monument to the honorary citizen Joseph Vissarionovich, where grateful Russians lay flowers and where do they say thanks?

      there was an anecdotal story when in the 65th the dude wrote to the Minister of Religions whether it is possible to rename the Jerusalem Yeshiva of the Hasidim “Karlin-Stolin”. What the minister at first turned out to be seriously puzzled, until he figured out where the name of this yeshiva comes from, and that in fact, it had nothing to do with the name of Stalin. lol

      A Hebrew resource for a printout from the Herut newspaper (yes, I understand, this will sound funny to you too laughing ) Of the 65th year:
      http://www.ranaz.co.il/articles/article1998_19650
      103.asp
  7. +2
    29 November 2017 12: 49
    In gratitude for this, Israel celebrates Victory Day on May 9!
  8. +2
    29 November 2017 14: 02
    Quote: andrewkor
    In gratitude for this, Israel celebrates Victory Day on May 9!


    And what is the relationship here?
  9. +5
    29 November 2017 14: 28
    The USSR became the first state to recognize Israeli independence. The Soviet Union (through the socialist bloc of Eastern Europe) also supported the Israeli struggle for sovereignty, including the supply of arms, with Joseph Stalin personally taking an active position on this issue.

    1. The USSR was not the first to recognize, but the second.
    2. The USSR did not supply weapons to Israel, and the Czechoslovak leadership selling weapons to Israel was sent to prison for this.
    Kommersant at the same time, in the same way put even more weapons "to strengthen the defense of Israel."

    In general, the day is certainly significant. good Over the 70 years, Jews have turned their state into a highly developed free country firmly on its feet, and slaves still make good business out of creating an Arab state.
  10. +3
    29 November 2017 21: 29
    70 years, as the UN GA adopted a plan for the actual creation of an independent Israel

    Congratulations guys. I, Odessa))) I am from Odessa - hello. Jews have proven two things:
    - the ability of a nation to self-organize (without a king)));
    - ability to sacrifice, for the sake of a common goal.
    It is commendable.
  11. +4
    30 November 2017 10: 58
    On this day, the Arabs got exactly the same chance to create their own state as the Jews. Only instead of creating it, by the forces of the members of the League of Arab States (Syria, Egypt, Lebanon, Iraq and Transjordan) began military operations against Israel in order to prevent the creation of an independent Jewish state. As a result, the new Israel in the coming year is 70 for years, and the Arabs both ride donkeys and curse the Jews in all their troubles.
    1. 0
      1 December 2017 06: 14
      This is not a reason to take their land and violate the UN decision. Especially LAS is to blame, not them. After all, you were fascinated by the Arabs, and you got Iran and Turkey as your enemies. All the main ethnic groups of BV want to destroy you to put it mildly. Those. almost half a billion Arabs, 150 million Turks and for 30 million Persians. Okay, donkeys, got a generation 4 aircraft, submarines and ballistic missiles with weapons of mass destruction. Well, they are still learning how to fight, acquire our advanced air defense systems (the West did not give them, including the Turks, now it gives them CA, etc.) And then what? Hope for the invisible F-35? CD with diesel with a nuclear charge, how retribution? So retribution after the death of themselves. Well, there is a confrontation between the US and the USSR, people were reasonable and even crazy. Khrushch is more sensible than some. We must return the land and make peace, not temporary, real ...
      1. +2
        1 December 2017 12: 38
        Quote: hrych
        This is not a reason to take their land and violate the UN decision. Especially LAS is to blame, not them. After all, you were fascinated by the Arabs, and you got Iran and Turkey as your enemies. All the main ethnic groups of BV want to destroy you to put it mildly. Those. almost half a billion Arabs, 150 million Turks and for 30 million Persians. Okay, donkeys, got a generation 4 aircraft, submarines and ballistic missiles with weapons of mass destruction. Well, they are still learning how to fight, acquire our advanced air defense systems (the West did not give them, including the Turks, now it gives them CA, etc.) And then what? Hope for the invisible F-35? CD with diesel with a nuclear charge, how retribution? So retribution after the death of themselves. Well, there is a confrontation between the US and the USSR, people were reasonable and even crazy. Khrushch is more sensible than some. We must return the land and make peace, not temporary, real ...

        If this conflict were only territorial, it would have been resolved to everyone’s satisfaction long ago. But, alas ...
        Among the countries surrounding Israel there is no power that constitutes a real threat to it. Syria is in ruin, Egypt has its own problems, and the peace treaty 40 has not been observed to violate has been handled for years - it has no complaints against Israel. Jordan from Israel back in 1994 got everything she wanted, and soon the gas will go there and the railroad will provide access to the Mediterranean Sea. Beggar a half-ruined Lebanon from which even the prime minister ran away? Not even funny. Iran will try to flay Israel? It is not yet known whether he will decide on this. Even if they decide, they will try to do it not by themselves, but by proxy, Hezbollah starts. This conflict will be narrowly regional. Lebanon, of course, will have a crap, but Israel will cope. Not for the first time.

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