Military Review

Russians will start a “new big war”: “Armata” tanks will go to Europe

81
The "land campaign" of Russians to the West is already being prepared. The Russian army is "preparing for the next big war," writes one well-known analyst, pointing to the new formidable weapon Putin - Tanks "Armata".




Analyst Dave Majumdar (Dave Majumdar), specializing in national security issues, told the world about the “upcoming” campaign of the Russian army in Europe. New article by a specialist in national security published in the journal "The National Interest".

The new state armament plan for Russia, which is designed for the period of 2018 — 2027, reorients the Kremlin’s defense expenditures to ground forces, indicates Dave Majumdar.

In the previous armaments plan, which was designed for 2011 — 2020 years, the Kremlin “largely focused on the revival of the Navy.” Given the recent experience of Moscow in Ukraine and the fact that Russia is still a “Eurasian land power,” the analyst states: the shift “makes sense”.

As noted by Dmitry Gorenburg (Dmitry Gorenburg), the new armored fighting vehicles of Russia are "almost ready" for mass production.

“This is partly due to the experience of Russia in Ukraine, which leads to an increased perception of the possible relevance of ground forces in future conflicts, but this is mainly the result of the development of new armored vehicles and tanks for mass production,” Gorenburg writes in his new article.

The expert indicates that over the next eight years, the Armata, the Kurganets-90 infantry fighting vehicle and the Boomerang armored personnel carrier are expected to go into a series of T-14 and T-25 tanks. True, the number of tanks produced by “Armata” may be limited “due to the high cost of their production.”

In addition, Russia will continue to release new artillery and missile systems to replace old Soviet weapons. The expert points to the planned replacement of the Msta self-propelled artillery mounts with the Coalition.

However, despite the fact that the modernization continues, and the Russian ground forces receive new intelligence and observation systems, as well as new EW systems, "not everything is going well." The fact is that Russia, with its “network-centric war”, is behind schedule.

Mr. Gorenburg points out problems with tactical automated ground control systems. Initially it was assumed that by 2020, such systems would come in forty brigades. At the same time, the military in Russia “have mixed feelings” for these systems and “may decide that they need improvement” before they are adopted. In this case, the army may postpone the development of opportunities associated with network-centric wars until 2027.

In general, the Russian military is strong enough to “hold back all its neighbors in the post-Soviet space,” the analyst notes. However, the Kremlin "still has to rely on nuclear weapons to contain China and NATO."

Russia is already strong enough to defend itself in any war against any adversary and defeat any neighboring state, except China, Gorenburg believes. Therefore, “new purchases will be aimed at keeping up with technological improvements” that “have been achieved by competitors”.

Thus, Madjumdar sums up, let the pace of rearmament remain uneven, Russia continues to catch up with its competitors. However, “in certain areas” it will remain behind the United States and, possibly, China.

Recall, the mentioned SAU "Coalition" (or more precisely, the "Coalition-SV") is capable of firing at a speed of more than ten rounds per minute (according to some information, up to sixteen). The system includes a module with an anti-aircraft 12,7-mm machine gun "Kord". The machine gun is controlled remotely. This ACS is intended for the destruction of enemy artillery and mortar batteries, armored vehicles, air defense and missile defense systems, communications centers, command posts and manpower. The wheel version of the ACS is based on the four-axle chassis of the KamAZ vehicle. There is a tracked version. Calculation of SAU - three people. They are either in an isolated armored vehicle (tracked version) or in an armored KamAZ cabin. Also in the press it was reported that a coastal artillery system for the Russian Navy and a robotic artillery system, also remotely controlled, could be created on the basis of the “Coalition”.

9 May 2015, the new self-propelled howitzer 2C35 "Coalition-SV" was presented at the parade in honor of the 70 anniversary of the victory in World War II.

As for the verification of new technology, the state tests of this self-propelled, notes "Russian newspaper"will begin soon. This was stated by the chief designer of the Uraltransmash, where they assemble the tracked Coalitions, the base for which is the self-propelled chassis 2C5 "Hyacinth".

Compared with the "Mstoy-S" self-propelled "Coalition-SV" has a significantly increased maximum firing range (70 km vs. 29 km) and increased rate of 1,5 times the rate of fire. According to the estimates of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, in terms of the complex of characteristics, the new SAU exceeds analogous systems by 1,5 — 2 times. Compared with the M777 towed howitzers in service and the M109 self-propelled howitzer “Coalition-SV” It has a higher degree of automation, an increased rate of fire and a range of fire that meets the modern requirements for conducting general combat.

However, it was previously planned to put the Coalition into service in 2016. Now serial deliveries expected only in 2020 year.

It is probably from this that analysts hinted at the Russian “land campaign” and the “network-centric war”. 2020 year is the time of the planned deliveries to the troops of the Armath tanks. By the year 2020 said at the Army-2017 forum, Deputy Defense Minister Yury Borisov, the Russian army will receive up to one hundred new main battle tanks on the Armata platform.

Obviously, Mr. Majumdar and other analysts, whose opinion translates American publications, unite Russian new tanks, infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers into a single whole - into the concept of “network-centric wars”, when smart machines stuffed with electronics conduct smoothly combat operations according to a single program. That is why the Russians will put them in the army at the same time.

It turns out that 2020 year will be a terrible year for Europe. Many "concerns" will be expressed ...

Observed and commented on Oleg Chuvakin
- especially for topwar.ru
81 comment
Information
Dear reader, to leave comments on the publication, you must to register.

I have an account? Sign in

  1. K-50
    K-50 30 November 2017 06: 37 New
    15
    Russians will start a “new big war”: “Armata” tanks will go to Europe

    The thief shouts louder than anyone else. sad
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 30 November 2017 06: 45 New
      29
      Analyst Dave Majumdar
      oh that's it! You can not read further! wassat onaliteg from god ...
      1. tol100v
        tol100v 30 November 2017 18: 23 New
        +5
        Quote: Dead Day
        oh that's it! You can not read further! onaliteg from god ...

        Indeed, as these analogo-American Experts already got!
        1. MadCat
          MadCat 30 November 2017 21: 48 New
          +2
          Quote: Tol100v
          Indeed, as these analogo-American Experts already got!

          of it is the same American as you are a Martian, this office is like RT in the states.
    2. Chertt
      Chertt 30 November 2017 07: 04 New
      20
      It is pleasant to realize how many people with intellectual disabilities are fed at the expense of the Russian Armed Forces. This can be done according to documents as charitable help to the wretched
      1. Separ DNR
        Separ DNR 30 November 2017 07: 17 New
        +9
        However, despite the fact that modernization is ongoing, and the Russian ground forces are receiving new reconnaissance and surveillance systems, as well as new electronic warfare systems, "not everything is going well." The fact is that Russia with its "network-centric war" is behind schedule.

        And yourself, keep up? For Russia? wink

        And what about the schedule? Russia, under the projected prospects, created it, according to its understanding of the processes in the world, present and future.
        1. Anttty
          Anttty 30 November 2017 18: 09 New
          +5
          Apparently, the phrase “behind the schedule” balm for the soul for “analytega”, there is time to change the diapers extra a couple of times. What strange people are these Western analytics ...
          They themselves will come up with about preparing for a war against them, they themselves will find an excuse why their predictions and threats about an attack by the evil Russia have not come true for a long time, and they themselves will sweeten their ears by lagging behind the schedule (such a cherry on the cake), however, there is no schedule and no))) funny jesters who make money on black propaganda and dusting the brains of the EU population.
      2. volodya
        volodya 30 November 2017 12: 02 New
        +6
        Quote: Chertt
        It is pleasant to realize how many people with intellectual disabilities are fed at the expense of the Russian Armed Forces.

        Shaw again? Recently, the stripes allowed us not to attack Europe, but now again?
    3. askme
      askme 30 November 2017 08: 37 New
      12
      The dibilism of this Kumar is different: in the new arms program, the emphasis is on nuclear deterrence forces in the first place, and not on ground forces. That is, it is a banal impudent lie. And the rest is fitting the lies to the thesis: “Russians are coming!” There can only be one answer to this: hang yourself, urki!)

      For we will go to them in the “deep rear”: through Africa, South America) And not with tanks at all)) Europe is a dead place, a place of death, where they prepared a hole for us for a long time, and they themselves will fall when the time comes, which works against them in Europe, dubbed and raped by migrants ... and we will bury them. Let them stomp and go, dumbasses, clowns) But for now, let's go across the continents with a march-throw, where there are still normal men, human beings, in nature, and not hybrids of man and the Goat in the form of a buffalo!) ....
      1. Ill
        Ill 2 December 2017 20: 45 New
        +1
        The fact is that only narrowly targeted articles are published in the Russian media. Like this one. If a sane person asks himself a question - how many “Armat” can Uralvagonzavod make in a year? then the answer is IMHO - 40 - 80 pcs. And all .... What is the threat to Europe? What are you talking about?
        1. The comment was deleted.
  2. HEATHER
    HEATHER 30 November 2017 06: 39 New
    10
    Analyst Dave Majumdar Nowadays, it’s the most “popular special" in Russian weapons. You can’t just meet his statements. Even those that nobody knows about.
  3. EwgenyZ
    EwgenyZ 30 November 2017 06: 40 New
    12
    All this resembles a joke: - Oh man, I'm afraid of you !, - Have mercy on the lady, you are on the ninth floor, and I am on the third, - And I will go down. "
  4. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 30 November 2017 06: 40 New
    +6
    2020 will be a terrible year for Europe. Many "concerns" will be expressed ...

    It is not yet known what will happen to Europe in these two years. And the threat of Russia's land invasion of Europe is an idea as old as the world and has been very successfully exploited during the years of the Cold War. From which we can conclude that the new Cold War is already in full swing despite optimistic statements by some analysts, including and in Russia.
    1. Chertt
      Chertt 30 November 2017 07: 08 New
      +6
      Quote: rotmistr60
      the new Cold War is already in full swing despite optimistic statements by some analysts, including and in Russia.

      - That I did not read such "optimistic" statements. Usually they argue, did the Cold War stop at all? Or Russia simply “departed” for a while, and the West, as it fought, continues
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 30 November 2017 07: 17 New
        +3
        And you carefully listen to some "analysts" and "political scientists." Almost literally: "Now, of course, not the Cold War, in the Soviet period, the world really was on the verge of a hot war between the United States and the USSR. But everything is going to the beginning of a new round of the Cold War."
      2. Separ DNR
        Separ DNR 30 November 2017 07: 38 New
        +7
        Quote: Chertt
        Usually they argue, did the Cold War stop at all? Or Russia simply “departed” for a while, and the West, as it fought, continues

        Do not lose sight of the fact that in the 90s, the generalized West, it seemed that the “defeated Russia” at their feet would never rise ...
        And spend resources, respectively, is not worth it. But this went on right up to Putin’s Munich speech.
        And from that moment it began " Overload".
    2. Separ DNR
      Separ DNR 30 November 2017 07: 31 New
      +2
      Quote: rotmistr60
      it can be concluded that the new Cold War is already in full swing despite optimistic statements by some analysts, including and in Russia.

      With that inCold war V 2.0"Russia is forced to enter from a significantly shaky position, and a much smaller arsenal of funds than available during the Soviet period.
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 30 November 2017 09: 59 New
        +4
        Quote: Separ DNR
        Despite the fact that in "Cold war V 2.0" Russia is forced to enter from a significantly shaky position, and a much smaller arsenal of funds than available in the Soviet period.

        The enemy, too, is not so curly, as in the days of the USSR. The main problem is that China is no longer an ally of the United States in the Cold War, but quite the opposite.
        And apparently, "Cold war V 2.0" will be a war precisely against China. Well, Russia, as a result of the obviously unsuccessful actions of the short-sighted leadership of the United States, will become its natural ally.
      2. kimvladimiril
        kimvladimiril 7 December 2017 16: 23 New
        0
        After the Great Patriotic War, the USSR had hardly any more resources than now ...
    3. horhe48
      horhe48 30 November 2017 09: 05 New
      +2
      If it comes to war, then in the European theater of war (and in the Asian expanses too), mainly land battles will take place. (Look at the map). And the VKS, the fleet will have to assist the land as far as possible and strength. So it is the land troops must be armed and prepared for this. Therefore, all discussions on this subject are not worth a damn.
    4. NEXUS
      NEXUS 30 November 2017 12: 47 New
      +7
      Quote: rotmistr60
      And the threat of Russia's land invasion of Europe is an idea as old as the world and has been very successfully exploited during the years of the Cold War.

      And in fact, historically, for 1000 years, the threat of a land invasion was from Europe to Russia. And not just a threat, but also an invasion and war, and after the next lyule, the Europeans sat quietly and quietly for 50 years.
      1. 89969343125
        89969343125 30 November 2017 19: 35 New
        +3
        laughing Yes, reading historical studies of different years, you are convinced of this. But the end was always the same.
    5. tol100v
      tol100v 30 November 2017 18: 31 New
      +1
      Quote: rotmistr60
      From which we can conclude that the new Cold War is already in full swing despite optimistic statements by some analysts, including and in Russia.

      The Cold War did not stop, it only slowed down into Our dashing 90s, and now the State Department is heating it up from all sides, since the SGA has no other solutions to get out of its debt crisis!
  5. Yuriy71
    Yuriy71 30 November 2017 06: 47 New
    +1
    Stupid, stupid. tolerance! They don’t even realize that there will be no hordes of Armat in Russia, just like the T-50 (Su-57), that it was just a good cut of money and window dressing, a horror story for the West. Everything is completely in our traditions. The bet has already been made on the T-90, and Armat, if they give the army a bit, then to calm nerves and conscience.
    1. rotmistr60
      rotmistr60 30 November 2017 07: 38 New
      12
      it was just a good cut of money and window dressing,

      Did you make such a conclusion yourself or did someone suggest it? From Belarus, the state of affairs in the Russian army is probably more visible. It is surprising how we still have not thought of remembering the fallen satellites?
      1. Yuriy71
        Yuriy71 30 November 2017 11: 05 New
        0
        Firstly, there were already a million articles on this topic, and not just thrashing, but specialists who are in the "topic". Secondly, there have already been statements about the amount of equipment that will be ordered by the Moscow Region. Thirdly, you can live on the moon, and to know about the state of affairs in Russia more than some Russians))).
      2. tol100v
        tol100v 30 November 2017 18: 35 New
        +2
        Quote: rotmistr60
        It is surprising how we still have not thought of remembering the fallen satellites?

        And from Belarus it is easier to sell Russian diesel fuel! Here you forget about the satellites ...
    2. Non liberoid Russian
      Non liberoid Russian 30 November 2017 14: 40 New
      +5
      dig potatoes, glory to Lukashenko, a fortuneteller on the basis of yellow newspapers ... if there is a bet on other tanks, then on the T72 modernization number is some kind of yes T80, but not T90, which has not been purchased for the Russian army for a long time ... I also special for public procurement for the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation
  6. inkass_98
    inkass_98 30 November 2017 07: 31 New
    10
    Apparently, Mr. Majumdar was brought fresh ganjubas from his historical homeland, and he generously shared a high-quality product with Gorenburg. Hence the visions of a green dog attacking the Sixth Fleet of the USA, as well as the large-scale offensive “Armat” along the bottom of the Atlantic with access to the operational space in the Great Lakes region.
  7. BRONEVIK
    BRONEVIK 30 November 2017 07: 44 New
    16
    tanks “Armata” will go to Europe

    lol
    1. engineer74
      engineer74 30 November 2017 08: 30 New
      +9
      And Almaty, and the Coalition, and the Su-57 will go to Europe, and, by invitation. When the time comes to disperse the Islamic State of London and Paris.
      1. tol100v
        tol100v 30 November 2017 18: 39 New
        +2
        Quote: engineer74
        And Almaty, and the Coalition, and the Su-57 will go to Europe, and, by invitation. When the time comes to disperse the Islamic State of London and Paris.

        They won’t even go by invitation! The IG needs only to be burned out, and from this follows the CONCLUSION ....
        1. marder7
          marder7 30 November 2017 19: 56 New
          +3
          ... "God damn it with this England! but there should be order in the regiment!" ?
  8. Loess
    Loess 30 November 2017 08: 48 New
    +3
    However, the Kremlin "still has to rely on nuclear weapons to deter China and NATO."
    With such a huge difference in human resources, this is not surprising.
  9. shinobi
    shinobi 30 November 2017 09: 42 New
    +1
    As soon as I got to the name of the analyst, I stopped reading.
  10. Homer_J_Simpson
    Homer_J_Simpson 30 November 2017 11: 00 New
    +2
    And someone explain why?
  11. Berkut24
    Berkut24 30 November 2017 11: 26 New
    +6
    What I like about Western analysts is that they can analyze anything regardless of their education and only based on CNN and Facebook reports. And judging by the decisions of Western politicians, they are being listened to!
  12. Curious
    Curious 30 November 2017 13: 17 New
    +1
    "Analyst Dave Majumdar"
    But does someone work under this pseudonym? The style is very similar.
    1. Antares
      Antares 1 December 2017 00: 06 New
      +3
      Quote: Curious
      "Analyst Dave Majumdar"
      But does someone work under this pseudonym? The style is very similar.

      so in 2016 there was a whole article about this “Pakistani analyst” at VO
      Came to the conclusion
      So what happens? What is not independent experts praise our army, and Pushkov in the face of the long-suffering Dave praises our army, and also at the American expense? Does Henry Kissinger cover this whole anti-American fifth column in the heart of the USA?

      I read the names of his articles on foreign media there is a continuous stream of praises to the weapons of the Russian Federation. In general, you can lie further on the stove, everyone surrendered. His articles are often published in the Russian Federation, but they are often used to promote the military budget
  13. prior
    prior 30 November 2017 13: 23 New
    +2
    It seems that the need arose to “push” Europe into the batch of decommissioned Javelins.
  14. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 30 November 2017 14: 08 New
    0
    Oh this Majumdar, the guy amuses again ... drinks
  15. Antianglosax
    Antianglosax 30 November 2017 15: 24 New
    +4
    What a lying little people! They know very well that we need a geyropa like an umbrella for a fish, all the more so since its end is quite close and without our participation, only through the efforts of blacks and Arabs, a geyropa turn into a bloody mess. Why do we need this agonizing cesspool?
    1. marder7
      marder7 30 November 2017 19: 59 New
      +2
      so what? we must convince everyone of the presence of a horde of evil Slavic - Mongols. and cut a couple of trillions of green cabbage under this business
  16. silver_roman
    silver_roman 30 November 2017 15: 43 New
    +3
    NI addicts again repeat
    Of course, Russian tanks will go to Europe !!! where else should they go?
    they went to Napoleon in tanks, Mongols were beaten in tanks, Karl 12 near Poltava was rolled away in tanks, Putin personally attacked Gilter in a tank and now let's go ... in tanks .... Russian ....
    IN, do not post this nonsense from this shit of the publication ... Well, why ?????
  17. EnGenius
    EnGenius 30 November 2017 15: 45 New
    +2
    Everything is simple, this is in order to maintain the myth of NATO of the still Soviet flood about the massive impact of mechanized tank columns to the west. For this they receive money for the maintenance of the US occupation forces in Europe. Therefore, under this stuffing, NATO agents will continue to punch money for rearmament in national budgets. Naturally, after a quarter of a century of “peace” in Europe, most of the EU's defense industry lay on its side. The United States hoped that Russia would reborn, albeit a far less dangerous power than the USSR. That was the calculation.
  18. Pacifist
    Pacifist 30 November 2017 15: 48 New
    +3
    fool
    Learn the history of analytega ... Europe itself started all the wars in Europe, in the person of all decision makers of fate, we just fought back .... just because of some circumstances the blow was always such that it flew right up to ... well, to the edge. Well, nefig was angry.
  19. ioan-e
    ioan-e 30 November 2017 16: 37 New
    +1
    How zadolbal this deer! Forever carries a blizzard ....
  20. iouris
    iouris 30 November 2017 16: 48 New
    +4
    In 2020, the Euro funds for Poland and the Baltic states close and the payment of debts begins. After this, freezing of the population and political bankruptcy of regimes will begin. The only question is to "stand the night, but hold out the day."
  21. Fedorovich
    Fedorovich 30 November 2017 17: 48 New
    +6
    I'll just leave it here:
    1. Gennady Fyodorov
      Gennady Fyodorov 30 November 2017 18: 14 New
      0
      Here is Tatar Minin looking at Pozharsky with a question when we’ll go to expel Jews from the Kremlin!
      1. Vitaly
        Vitaly 30 November 2017 18: 42 New
        +1
        Totally crest?
  22. Wolka
    Wolka 30 November 2017 17: 51 New
    +4
    in order to conquer the old rotten Europe, it is not necessary to arrange a “Russian barbarossa” with the use of Armat and other modern weapons, it is enough to “get” the introduction of new American sanctions from the EU for at least another year, and this pseudo-confederate formation (toilet broom) will fall apart by itself, Englishmen are already untied the rope ...
  23. Gennady Fyodorov
    Gennady Fyodorov 30 November 2017 18: 10 New
    +1
    Again, let's go fight for the interests of Vovan and the Jewish mafia?
    1. marder7
      marder7 30 November 2017 20: 01 New
      +3
      what kind of gene are you rude and stupid.
  24. klm-57
    klm-57 30 November 2017 18: 14 New
    +2
    Usually Russians do not start wars, they end them.
  25. Sergey Cojocari
    Sergey Cojocari 30 November 2017 18: 29 New
    0
    I put it in military terms - “jacket”. That is purely civilian. Maybe it’s worth taking Russian tanks two hundred or three hundred kilometers from the borders, and putting forward a screen of atomic guns at the forefront as a sign of peace? I think that the Pionov battery, on the border with the arrivals, will remove a bunch of questions for Russia. On the border with Poland in the Kaliningrad region, it will relieve tension with the Poles, and so with all the neighbors, who imagined themselves to be a victim of the impending Russian threat.
  26. Vitaly
    Vitaly 30 November 2017 18: 41 New
    +1
    About Almaty - I do not know! But Pshekia and Hohland will have to start repaying loans. Here is the circus :)
  27. Dimmar
    Dimmar 30 November 2017 18: 44 New
    0
    It reminds another joke about the Chinese, though quite outdated.
    At the headquarters of the Chinese army:
    - Well, first let the tanks or infantry?
    - first, both tanks, under the guise of infantry - 2-3 million soldiers, and then infantry
  28. astankard
    astankard 30 November 2017 18: 47 New
    0
    "... the analyst states: the shift" makes sense. "
    The "analyst" has a "phase shift" ....
    What just is not being undertaken. to scare the poor "true Caucasians."
    But normal people should live there too ... not all the same with shifts ...
  29. 1536
    1536 30 November 2017 18: 49 New
    +3
    It must be said that we are creating tanks for joining the planet Mars to Russia and growing apple orchards there. This is our old dream that apple trees bloom on Mars. However, in the West they will still call it "annexation" and impose sanctions on the import of our apples from Mars.
  30. The comment was deleted.
    1. marder7
      marder7 30 November 2017 20: 04 New
      0
      wake up comrade! they were already riveted a couple of hundred. for military tests.
  31. Foxmara
    Foxmara 30 November 2017 20: 26 New
    0
    They wrote long ago that a new world war is planned for 2020 - everyone is quickly rearming. https://warsonline.info/geostrategiya/tretya-miro
    vaya-mozhet-nachatsya-v-2020-godu.html
    1. Dimmar
      Dimmar 30 November 2017 21: 27 New
      0
      first link http://prntscr.com/hhds0y
  32. Dimmar
    Dimmar 30 November 2017 21: 23 New
    +1
    Yes, there’s a lot of things on the fence, too, or who wrote .... they promise in Moscow this is frost 37 in winter, then 57, ALREADY reached 70, degrees Celsius ....))) who is more? tongue to grind a simple matter
  33. iouris
    iouris 30 November 2017 22: 52 New
    0
    "We have such devices, but we won’t tell you about them .." ("Mango-Mango", "Scuba divers")
    With such a pace of rearmament, you need to live a very long time before you can live until "tanks go to Europe." Moreover, yesterday, managers selling iPhones had to urgently be re-qualified as tank builders and tank crews, and the embezzlers should be turned into noble technologists and great military leaders.
  34. dDYHA
    dDYHA 1 December 2017 07: 09 New
    0
    It would be interesting to read an article weighed by a good Western specialist on the state of the Russian armed forces. And such a yellow press is full. it is not clear why it was put on display.
  35. Stalnov I.P.
    Stalnov I.P. 1 December 2017 07: 51 New
    0
    Let them be afraid, there were THREE TIMES in Berlin, they were in Paris, they took Prague, Warsaw, if we forgot, we can remind. And so WE are: "they saw you in the Coffin," and we don’t need your land in one place.
  36. Dmitry Kuzhilney
    Dmitry Kuzhilney 1 December 2017 08: 25 New
    0
    US military analysts are the same as "British scientists" smile
    What kind of "Armata"? .. The first to go to war is junk. At best, modernized junk.
    “Armata” will be held only at the Chanz Elise parade. smile
    1. Dimmar
      Dimmar 1 December 2017 14: 06 New
      0
      Well, in Syria, we are not testing the very old stuff, sort of .... though, of course, this is logical, first drain the old stuff until it rusts)
      1. Dmitry Kuzhilney
        Dmitry Kuzhilney 4 December 2017 09: 03 New
        0
        Quote: DimMar
        Well, in Syria, we are not testing the very old
        Not junk tested. Fighting the old. It fights well.
        Quote: DimMar
        not Chans at all, but Champ
        "Oh! Monsieur Frenchman?!." (with) smile
    2. Dimmar
      Dimmar 1 December 2017 14: 14 New
      0
      because the old stuff must be lubricated with something, "or not to be lubricated. After all, it is also not necessary to lubricate with something")))
      not Chanz at all, but Champ, and even the "p" at the end is not readable. and m or n - a moot point, a nasal sound, like a person who studied French))) champs-field .... but from the end it also cannot be read) and there is still a pretext de - but it’s written and pronounced d'Elisee - delise
      Champs Elysees in short who did not understand
  37. iouris
    iouris 1 December 2017 13: 40 New
    0
    Quote: dDYHA
    It would be interesting to read an article weighted by a good Western specialist.

    I’m walking on the carpet ... Apparently, the main dimension of the war is the information and the victory will be for those who have time to lie more.
    1. Dimmar
      Dimmar 1 December 2017 14: 16 New
      0
      but the Ukrainians have already been lying for 20 years .... but where are our special services, what are they doing, since the Cold War it was clear that what people inspire on TV. 99% of the population will believe that
  38. Dimmar
    Dimmar 1 December 2017 14: 20 New
    0
    some Russian inventor was shown yesterday or the day before yesterday, he lives in America, hell knows how many years, so what struck him - he said that Russian hackers terrorized the entire population of America ..... so you have to brainwash the people, and people thinking something
  39. Samvel
    Samvel 3 December 2017 07: 47 New
    0
    Even if in the morning all of us collapsed from an oak tree and thought, “Could we capture Europe?” “I doubt that the Chinese will allow a couple of three million soldiers to be driven for the invasion army. Oh, how you need it for protection. A huge country and close all directions to those who are in the regular army it will be difficult. And who will attack? Reserves this thing is what they still need to be mobilized, brought to life after a free life and “mother’s” grubs. There are a lot of problems on which, well, the role of the aggressor doesn’t shine even if it were desire. And here is how the defense army with overwhelming technical and moral fighting qualities is yes. It’s one thing for the Arabs to drive blackleaters across the desert. It’s another thing to try to take someone’s house away and then they’re always hungry. But they are well armed and there are a lot of them. wants to induce them to action and she will be removed. Apparently they want to pinch the peasants with us again. And ungrateful women will finish what they started.
  40. The comment was deleted.
  41. sir_obs
    sir_obs 3 December 2017 23: 17 New
    0
    some kind of indian movie
  42. Zebus
    Zebus 3 December 2017 23: 39 New
    +1
    ABOUT! Again Mujamarca ... Fake analyte from like America, but at the same time from 404 ... wassat
  43. Valery Saitov
    Valery Saitov 4 December 2017 08: 50 New
    0
    Well, now all the cries about the land war. Already a nuclear war will not be for sure.
  44. project sity
    project sity 4 December 2017 16: 49 New
    0
    I see everything remains unchanged request
    Paranoia and only wassat
  45. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 5 December 2017 18: 17 New
    0
    They scare themselves and nothing more! People hawala and is afraid of Russia.
  46. Alexander Prikhodko
    Alexander Prikhodko 5 December 2017 21: 18 New
    0
    Of course, you should not wait until you begin to capture Russia - what happened many times throughout history - how you will behave there or tanks will go there - while you behave very disgustingly - your main task is to treat the brain for scratches