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Colonel-General Sergei Surovikin appointed Commander-in-Chief of the VKS

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By decree of the President of the Russian Federation from 22 in November 2017, Colonel-General Sergei Surovikin, who previously commanded the VVO troops and headed the Russian grouping of troops in Syria until now, was appointed commander-in-chief of the aerospace forces of Russia, the newspaper reports Make a star.


Colonel-General Sergei Surovikin appointed Commander-in-Chief of the VKS


Sergey Vladimirovich Surovikin was born on October 11 on 1966 in Novosibirsk. “He graduated from the Omsk Higher Combined Arms Command School, the Military Academy named after M.V. Frunze, Military Academy of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. Since June, 2004, commanded the 42-th Guards Division, stationed in the territory of the Chechen Republic. Then he commanded the 20-th combined arms army. In November, 2008 was appointed Chief of the Main Operational Directorate of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, ”the newspaper said the record of the general.

Since April, 2012 has served in the central office of the Russian Ministry of Defense. In October, 2012 was appointed Chief of Staff - First Deputy Commander of the Eastern Military District. From October 2013 of the year - Commander of the Military High Command.

The publication notes that "it was under the command of Colonel-General Sergei Surovikin that the Russian grouping of troops in Syria, in cooperation with the Syrian armed forces, achieved maximum success in the fight against international terrorism, almost destroying its stronghold in this Arab republic."
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  1. askort154
    askort154 29 November 2017 08: 35 New
    +7
    Went to replace the "bosom", on the fired soldiers.
    1. Jedi
      Jedi 29 November 2017 08: 39 New
      +5
      Alexander hi
      Quote: askort154
      Went to replace the "bosom", on the fired soldiers.

      Which is very correct and pleasing.
      1. Berber
        Berber 29 November 2017 08: 44 New
        +2
        Correct selection of command staff.
        1. Professor
          Professor 29 November 2017 11: 19 New
          18
          Quote: BerBer
          Correct selection of command staff.

          What is right in the appointment land general in boots for the post of commander Air force? At least one argument for?
          1. Lord of the Sith
            Lord of the Sith 29 November 2017 12: 16 New
            11
            You are wrong, he was appointed to the post of commander of the VKS, and not the Air Force. And the Air Force is part of the Air Forces and there is its commander of the Russian Air Force since August 1 2015 of the year is Lieutenant General Andrei Yudin.
            1. Professor
              Professor 29 November 2017 13: 03 New
              11
              Quote: Lord of the Sith
              You are wrong, he was appointed to the post of commander of the VKS, and not the Air Force. And the Air Force is part of the Air Forces and there is its commander of the Russian Air Force since August 1 2015 of the year is Lieutenant General Andrei Yudin.

              The Air Force and VKS are the same eggs only on the left. In other countries, this is simply called the "Air Force," but it also includes the command of the space constellation. Even in poor Israel, with military satellites, etc., there is no VKS, but only the Air Force.
              But this is not about that, but about how a land explorer can command aviators. My father served more than 20 calendars in aviation and in his memory there was a case when they were transferred to army aviation under the command of generals boots. Thank God not for long and there were no casualties, although this was not far away. For example, not flying weather, but the green general, "Who decided?" Him "The chief of weather services is captain such and such." General "Will you captain tell me to fly or not to fly?" And so on.
              And about the little things like "Why is everything here without shoulder straps?" I won’t even tell.
              There is a specificity in aviation. We were burned when the Air Force Commander-in-Chief was appointed to command the armed forces. This was the first and last time.
              1. Inok10
                Inok10 30 November 2017 02: 03 New
                +4
                Quote: Professor
                The Air Force and VKS are the same eggs only on the left. In other countries, this is simply called the "Air Force," but it also includes the command of the space constellation. Even in poor Israel, with military satellites, etc., there is no VKS, but only the Air Force.

                ... after all, in poor Israel, there are few sho ... Space forces are absent in principle, and there are also SPRNs ... find me "Daryal" or "Voronezh", or better, the "Window" complex on the territory of your "Map Comma" ... Oleg, I respect you, but in this case, your opinion is more than Public ... and, as Aunt Sarah said, Sjoma: ... "Remember Sema, Public opinion, this is the opinion of those who were not asked." .. wink
                P.S. ... and I would especially like to hear for the Strategic Aviation of Israel, well, like the Tu-95 / Tu-160 analogue and Dalnaya will not interfere with the Tu-22M3 ... in one district, which was commanded by Surovikin, Front-line aviation is more on a list than all the Air Force Of Israel ... laughing ... don’t comb my nerves ... laughing
                1. Professor
                  Professor 30 November 2017 08: 19 New
                  +2
                  Israel stretches its legs for clothes, but such a "non-space" power as the United States possesses only the Air Force, and not the VKS. How do they live with this and how did the USSR live without a videoconferencing I can’t imagine? request
                  1. Inok10
                    Inok10 6 December 2017 01: 42 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Professor
                    but such a "non-cosmic" power as the United States possesses only the Air Force, and not the VKS.

                    ... well, yes for the suckers came down ... but what about the US Space Command? ... don't mind the brain ... laughing
                    1. Professor
                      Professor 6 December 2017 07: 18 New
                      0
                      Quote: Inok10
                      Quote: Professor
                      but such a "non-cosmic" power as the United States possesses only the Air Force, and not the VKS.

                      ... well, yes for the suckers came down ... but what about the US Space Command? ... don't mind the brain ... laughing

                      Learn the materiel. http://www.afspc.af.mil/ is part of the Air Force.
                      1. rocket757
                        rocket757 6 December 2017 08: 06 New
                        +2
                        An argument for the argument? warming up or want to find out ... -And still, am I right or wrong? -
                      2. Inok10
                        Inok10 6 December 2017 13: 02 New
                        +2
                        Quote: Professor
                        Learn the materiel. http://www.afspc.af.mil/ is part of the Air Force.

                        ... yeah ... only there is a squiggle ... we read:
                        The peculiarity of the state of the US Armed Forces in the 80s was that each type of armed forces of the SV, Air Force and Navy had its own subordinate detection, warning and warning systems and the corresponding infrastructure of subordinate facilities. In this regard, in the interests of increasing the efficiency of their daily activities and combat use, space command of the SV, Air Force and Navy were formed. Operational planning and control of the forces and means of these commands was entrusted to the joint space command of the US Armed Forces formed precisely for these purposes.
                        In the future, the views of the US leadership on the use of outer space for military purposes underwent significant changes associated with the new international situation (the collapse of the USSR, the Warsaw Treaty, the end of the Cold War phase, the growing threat from countries supporting terrorist organizations) and scientific and technological progress in the field of space technology. The results of the analysis of military operations in the Persian Gulf, Yugoslavia and Afghanistan, which demonstrated the undoubted usefulness of space forces and means in ensuring military operations of any scale, also had a great influence on the formation of new views on the use of space in the interests of ensuring US national security.
                        The current state and development prospects of the space component of the US armed forces are determined by fundamental documents of a doctrinal nature. Among them: "US Space Policy", enforced by a directive of the president PDD-49 in September 1996; Secretary of Defense Directive No. 3100.10, Space Policy, US Department of Defense (1999); Directive of the Minister of Defense “Organization and management of space activities carried out in the interests of national security”, signed on October 18, 2001; United States Joint Space Command Document “Long-Term Space Forces Development Plan” (1998); AFDD 2-2 special document “Space Operations”. Source: http://pentagonus.ru/publ/13-1-0-287
                        ... come out nasty ... tongue
          2. Berber
            Berber 1 December 2017 16: 36 New
            +1
            You don’t have to fly to be a good commander.
      2. pvv113
        pvv113 29 November 2017 08: 55 New
        16
        Hi, Max! The fact that they put the command of military officers, not parquet, is just fine! But the fact that he has nothing to do with aviation is alarming.
        1. Jedi
          Jedi 29 November 2017 08: 59 New
          +5
          Volodya, hello! hi
          Quote: pvv113
          But the fact that he has nothing to do with aviation is alarming.

          I think that in his environment there will be relevant specialists. wink
          1. pvv113
            pvv113 29 November 2017 09: 04 New
            19
            I have nothing against Surovikin, I have no doubt in the presence of competent deputies and consultants, but here I hold conservative views - the commander in chief should be a pilot
            1. Jedi
              Jedi 29 November 2017 09: 08 New
              +5
              I agree with you, but "above" are guided by their considerations, which we do not know.
              1. pvv113
                pvv113 29 November 2017 09: 15 New
                +4
                Combat experience means a lot! Maybe they came from this
                1. Jedi
                  Jedi 29 November 2017 09: 21 New
                  +5
                  But who knows? But I think that combat experience played an important role in this appointment.
                  1. pvv113
                    pvv113 29 November 2017 10: 04 New
                    +2
                    Maybe even the main
                2. novel66
                  novel66 29 November 2017 09: 22 New
                  10
                  and still only a pilot, well, there is a specificity!
                  1. pvv113
                    pvv113 29 November 2017 09: 24 New
                    +4
                    Fully agree hi
                3. Iline
                  Iline 29 November 2017 11: 44 New
                  +9
                  Quote: pvv113
                  Combat experience means a lot! Maybe they came from this

                  What is the combat experience? In the organization of flight training for pilots of various types of aviation? In providing maintenance for aircraft?
                  Poking a finger at a map where aviation needs to strike is one thing, but planning forces and means to accomplish a task is completely different; here you need to know very well the characteristics of the equipment and the means of destruction used.
                  It is very short-sighted to hope that competent deputies will cope with all the nuances, given the not very good reviews about this person in relations with subordinates. Here these subordinates can, as they say, also bit a bite. And the situation will look very much like the role of the wedding general - it seems that he is, but no good from him.
                  1. badens1111
                    badens1111 29 November 2017 12: 27 New
                    0
                    Quote: Iline
                    Poking a finger at a map where aviation needs to strike is one thing, but planning forces and means to accomplish a task is completely different; here you need to know very well the characteristics of the equipment and the means of destruction used.

                    We need to understand you so that frank mediocrity serves in the Armed Forces service and they need the Commander of the VKS to chew each time what to do and how to service the aircraft, what and how, where to hang it?
                    It seems to me that your arguments are, so to speak, ridiculous?
                    Quote: Iline
                    It is very short-sighted to hope that competent deputies will cope with all the nuances, given the not very good reviews about this person in relations with subordinates.

                    Oh, oh, "bad reviews .. who are the reviews? Dozens, hundreds of officers who served with him in the 42nd Guards MSD, regarding Surovikin, will tell you something completely different, idler, imitators, thieves, parasites. So let them yell that he pressed them, who do you regret?
                    1. Iline
                      Iline 29 November 2017 17: 26 New
                      +4
                      In aviation, only the first ammunition is used without question under the General Staff Directive in the event of hostilities. Everything else is applied after a detailed analysis of the types of aircraft intended for engaging targets and designated for performing a combat mission. This applies to ground operations. To confront in the air, you need to know the capabilities of a potential enemy in an air battle, and from here plan what means to use. And then you can foolishly break the genital organ.
                      Further ... A good officer subordinates do not shoot in the office from the service weapon. no matter how good he is, but this fact speaks of his leadership abilities. Not to mention the trial over the theft of weapons. Yes! He was later acquitted, but here you need to look at a slightly different angle - who would have climbed under the ax because of Yeltsin’s protege in those days. And he became in favor when the soldiers of his battalion crushed three civilians while suppressing the putsch. This can be treated differently, but to hide behind the execution of an order from a higher command is rather ridiculous. Especially a few years after the same Yeltsin destroyed the USSR, and, accordingly, the comrade did not remember the oath of allegiance to this country.
                      Our regiment was also raised on alert, no one knew anything at all, moreover, they suspended the nuclear BC in the event of an external attack. But when everything became clearer after the endless Swan Lake on TV, they were simply outraged by the stupidities of those in power. And if there would be at least some provocation? What then? The end of the country (here we must recall the state of the country and the army at that time)?
                      1. badens1111
                        badens1111 29 November 2017 17: 58 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Iline
                        A good officer subordinates do not shoot in the office from the service weapon. no matter how good he is, but this fact speaks of his leadership abilities.

                        You have a court decision. Which somehow indicated
                        blame Surovikin? No? Well then, do not tell tales.
                        Quote: Iline
                        Not to mention the trial over the theft of weapons.

                        So the composition is not found, what are you doing further inventions?
                        Quote: Iline
                        And he became in favor when the soldiers of his battalion crushed three civilians while suppressing the putsch.

                        Three drunkards climbed under the tracks of the equipment leaving the city, the crews had the right to shoot these crazy people at all.
                        Quote: Iline
                        This can be treated differently, but to hide behind the execution of an order from a higher command is rather ridiculous.

                        These are the words of an inveterate liberal who, by virtue of his preferences, is always ready to give up?
                        Quote: Iline
                        just outraged by the stupidities of those holding

                        And then what? And then you also served Yeltsin, and blame Surovikin? Good ...
                    2. not main
                      not main 29 November 2017 19: 32 New
                      +2
                      Quote: badens1111
                      We need to understand you so that frank mediocrity serves in the Armed Forces service and they need the Commander of the VKS to chew each time what to do and how to service the aircraft, what and how, where to hang it?

                      The reasoning of the amateur in boots!
                      1. badens1111
                        badens1111 30 November 2017 09: 04 New
                        0
                        Quote: non-primary
                        The reasoning of the amateur in boots!

                        What did you mean?
              2. Boa kaa
                Boa kaa 29 November 2017 13: 42 New
                +3
                Quote: Jedi
                “upstairs” are guided by their considerations, which are not known to us.

                Suvorkin - former head of the State Educational Institution of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation He knows exactly the specifics and features of the application of various types of the RF Armed Forces. Who better than the videoconferencing system in the future to fight the adversary in space, organize missile defense, etc. Therefore, given the organizational abilities of the general, he was appointed to this post. And in the combat use of aviation, air defense forces and missile defense forces - he will have enough deputies and assistants. Yes, and he himself, apparently not meager. He will study, will "grow above himself while spaceships plow the expanses of the Bolshoi Theater." (with). bully
                1. Jedi
                  Jedi 29 November 2017 13: 46 New
                  +4
                  I completely agree with your words. hi
                  And about the deputies and assistants, I wrote:
                  Quote: Jedi
                  he will be surrounded by relevant specialists.
                2. Per se.
                  Per se. 29 November 2017 14: 01 New
                  +5
                  Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                  Yes, and he himself, apparently not a stupid person. He will learn, he will "grow above himself, while the space ships plow the expanses of the Bolshoi Theater."
                  All the way, dear Alexander, but according to the same logic, you can assign a pilot to the "land vehicle", and a talented Tatyana Shevtsova commander-in-chief of the Navy ... Probably, it would be better for Sergey Vladimirovich, with his experience, to be commanded to another, equally important position. Really, we do not have talented generals in the Air Force, I mean “pilots”, for this position, the commander in chief of the VKS?
            2. Orionvit
              Orionvit 29 November 2017 09: 28 New
              +2
              Quote: pvv113
              commander in chief must be a pilot

              So it is so, but by and large, in Russia the commander in chief is not military (There were titles in the KGB, but the organization is not military, although paramilitary.) And the Minister of Defense, a builder by profession, is nothing. And here
              “He graduated from the Omsk Higher Combined Arms Command School, Military Academy named after M.V. Frunze, Military Academy of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. Since June 2004, he commanded the 42nd Guards Division, stationed in the Chechen Republic. Then he commanded the 20th Combined Arms Army. In November 2008 he was appointed Head of the Main Operations Directorate of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation ”
              I think I can handle it.
              1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
                Andrei from Chelyabinsk 29 November 2017 09: 47 New
                +9
                Quote: Orionvit
                So it is so, but by and large, in Russia the commander in chief is not military (There were titles in the KGB, but the organization is not military, although paramilitary.) And the Minister of Defense, a builder by profession, is nothing.

                Because both of them are more administrative, not military posts. But the commander in chief - this is the special, due to which the Minister of Defense can be a builder
              2. pvv113
                pvv113 29 November 2017 10: 05 New
                +2
                As the classic said: we will see wink
            3. badens1111
              badens1111 29 November 2017 10: 24 New
              +1
              Quote: pvv113
              shop should be a pilot

              Yes?
              We had the Minister of Defense Shaposhnikov, of the pilots what is the result?
              We had one of the strategic missile launchers, what was the result? So you, on the account of the "pilots" who supposedly better understand something, got too excited.
              Surovikin has real combat experience in managing forces and means of diverse forces, which of the "pilots." have such an experience?
        2. Doliva63
          Doliva63 29 November 2017 15: 48 New
          +5
          So aviation, there, roughly speaking, is 30% and it has its own commander. The air defense, the "astronauts", and everyone who is part of the air forces also have their own commanders. So the post of the Commander-in-Chief of the videoconferencing is administrative, why not appoint an intelligent general arms officer to it?
      3. Pete mitchell
        Pete mitchell 29 November 2017 10: 03 New
        +5
        Quote: Jedi
        Alexander hi
        Quote: askort154
        Went to replace the "bosom", on the fired soldiers.

        Which is very correct and pleasing.

        Jedi hi, it bothers me a little that he is not an aviator, but judging by the track record of aviation as a tool he knows how to use. Good luck to him ..
        1. Jedi
          Jedi 29 November 2017 10: 09 New
          +3
          Hi! hi
          Quote: Pete Mitchell
          I am a little confused that he is not an aviator, but judging by the track record of aviation as a tool, he knows how to use it. Good luck to him ..

          I say the same thing. She will manage, but wish good luck will not hurt. yes
        2. NN52
          NN52 29 November 2017 13: 09 New
          10
          What a wrong appointment in my opinion ....
          It is a pity General Makushev was not appointed, he is both a practitioner and a theorist. And the pilot.
        3. Mityasha
          Mityasha 29 November 2017 13: 34 New
          +2
          That’s the whole parsley, that the hunters use aviation as a means of delivering something and somewhere. But try to say that aviation can conduct independent actions and that it has a form of application - an air operation. Here he will sit ... in a puddle, I mean. But naturally, he will put this on the shoulders of the Air Force commander, as on deputy. But I think he is able to carry out general management of the type of aircraft, because aviation in its current form is only about 30-40% of the total species. Bertsa already cleaned everything?
          1. badens1111
            badens1111 6 December 2017 08: 32 New
            0
            Quote: Mityasha
            the land pilots use aviation as a means of delivering something and somewhere. But try to say that aviation can conduct independent actions and that it has a form of application - an air operation.

            Marshal Douai with his theories to help you.
            Remember the common truth, until the soldier has entered the enemy’s territory, all your air fuss does not play a role. And this is practice, all air operations about which you so ambitiously declare, their goal is to ensure the actions of ground troops.
    2. siberalt
      siberalt 29 November 2017 08: 44 New
      +2
      Well, if he "almost" destroyed the IG, Tod oh! belay We wish the general to finish what has been begun!
      1. novel66
        novel66 29 November 2017 09: 24 New
        13
        now it’s unlikely - now he will study the question of why the plane flies, but doesn’t wave its wings and the subtleties of supplying the flight units with inversion
    3. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
      Andrei from Chelyabinsk 29 November 2017 08: 48 New
      14
      Quote: askort154
      Went to replace the "bosom", on the fired soldiers.

      The fired fighter is the one who organized the activities of the air forces in Syria. And not the one who, in March 2017, arrived to command everything
      1. Stas157
        Stas157 29 November 2017 10: 02 New
        13
        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
        The fired fighter is the one who organized the activities of the air forces in Syria. And not the one who, in March 2017, arrived to command everything

        To the achievements of this "fired fighter" can be added the most sensitive losses of Russia in Syria, for the entire existence of the group. The death of General Asapov and several colonels, the largest casualties of PMCs ... Surovikin could not organize the crossing of the Euphrates River in Deir Ez-Zor, and block the Kurds. Therefore, his merit is that the Kurds got the largest oil fields, and 75% of all Syrian oil. Surovikin is clearly not the one who successfully led the group in Syria.
        It is also noted that he is extremely tough on subordinates. His biography has dark spots. This is the suicide of the deputy commander of the 34th motorized rifle division for arming Colonel Andrei Shtakal, immediately after a harsh conversation with Surovikin, in the presence of subordinates. And he was also accused of complicity in the arms trade. But the matter was hushed up.
        1. badens1111
          badens1111 29 November 2017 10: 28 New
          0
          Quote: Stas157
          Still seen

          Did you collect this dirt on purpose?
          However, when every liberal mob, gathering incriminating evidence, not understanding the realities of the army service, tries not to agree on how and how this or that incident happened, it becomes clear that the ins and outs of this attempt are to prevent advancement to decisive posts in the army and the leadership of the Armed Forces, patriots- statesmen.
          So it was with respect to the generals Prizemlin, Kozlov, Chirkin, now you are blowing the same dubious tune, trying to throw dirt on Surovikin?
          1. Stas157
            Stas157 29 November 2017 10: 42 New
            +5
            Quote: badens1111
            Did you collect this dirt on purpose?

            If you consider Surovikin’s biography to be dirt, then it is so. In general, all this is described in Wikipedia, and is not refuted by anyone. Maybe you have something to argue? So do not be shy. Just do not need such general phrases:
            Quote: badens1111
            throw dirt on Surovikin
            They are absolutely not talking about anything.
            And what I wrote about Surovikin’s activities in Syria is my personal opinion. I also invite you to a discussion on this subject.
            1. badens1111
              badens1111 29 November 2017 12: 21 New
              0
              Quote: Stas157
              this is my personal opinion. I also invite you to a discussion on this subject.

              Your opinion is based on something other than media reports?
              DO YOU HAVE SURE SURE that a war happens without losses and generals and officers do not die on it?
              Quote: Stas157
              Maybe you have something to argue?

              Objection? The source Wikipedia gives you a not too thinking person. You are still Echo of Moscow and Latynina write down in "true" sources.
              On the occasion of the suicide of the ZKV, there is a court verdict in which the Division Commander was accused of something. At that time, General Surovikin? No? Then what is your speculation and gossip from Wikipedia?
              Quote: Stas157
              Just do not need such general phrases:

              You will pay it to yourself, you have nothing except phrases and letters, signed by Fridinsky.
              1. Stas157
                Stas157 29 November 2017 15: 12 New
                +4
                Quote: badens1111
                Your opinion is based on something other than media reports?
                DO YOU HAVE SURE SURE that a war happens without losses and generals and officers do not die on it?

                I take well-known facts for analysis. I hope you do not doubt that it was precisely during the Surovikin’s command in Syria that the greatest human losses occurred (up to the colonels and the general), including PMCs? And also the fact that the task of transporting troops across the Euphrates River (covered all over the world, a photo of the video material is complete!) Failed to block the progress of the Kurds to oil fields? The price of this failure is the largest oil deposits in the hands of the Kurds!
                In war, of course, there are no losses. But, only under Surovikin they were the most sensitive, it is a fact.
                Quote: badens1111
                Objection: The Wikipedia source gives you a not-too-thinking person.

                That is, Wikipedia is not a source for you? Then name the source more reliable. I at least confirm my words with Wikipedia, your words are completely unfounded.
                As for the court, far from all criminals are brought to trial. But, this does not mean that crime does not exist then.
                Quote: badens1111
                You will pay it to yourself, you have nothing except phrases and letters, signed by Fridinsky.

                Fredinsky's signature is not enough? You don't have that either. What makes you think that all this is not true?
                1. badens1111
                  badens1111 29 November 2017 18: 03 New
                  0
                  Quote: Stas157
                  I hope you do not doubt that it was precisely during the Surovikin’s command in Syria that the greatest human losses occurred (up to the colonels and the general), including PMCs? And also the fact that the task of transporting troops across the Euphrates River (covered all over the world, a photo of the video material is complete!) Failed to block the progress of the Kurds to oil fields? The price of this failure is the largest oil deposits in the hands of the Kurds!

                  Or your free, liberal media?
                  And the opposing enemy, according to your pink dreams, was a plywood target, and behind it stood cardboard warriors from America, right?
                  All your chatter is not worth a damn, the territory of Syria is practically cleared.
                  Quote: Stas157
                  As for the court, far from all criminals are brought to trial. But, this does not mean that crime does not exist then.

                  Again, liberal idle talk. There is no trial. There is no sentence. So there is nothing to scratch your tongue, telling tales.
                  Quote: Stas157
                  Fredinsky's signature is not enough?

                  And what did he get this Fridinsky up there? As he got up, they looked at his piece of paper, NEVER.
    4. BABAY22
      BABAY22 29 November 2017 09: 03 New
      +9
      An infantry general commands aviation.
      Everything, flyers, Lafa is over. Wake now to work in the system in a beautiful form to walk.
    5. RASKAT
      RASKAT 29 November 2017 10: 07 New
      0
      He’s a good man, of course, and an experienced general. Only one thing bothers me, he had nothing to do with aviation before, a hunter to the bone marrow, as they say. Will he pull in the videoconferencing? As for me, it is worth appointing leaders from the same kind of troops.
  2. Same lech
    Same lech 29 November 2017 08: 40 New
    +7
    He worked in the General Staff of RUSSIA as the head of the Main Operations Directorate of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation ... head ... good clearly an intellectual and the result of his work is corresponding ... there would have been more such military leaders in our armed forces.
    1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
      Andrei from Chelyabinsk 29 November 2017 08: 46 New
      10
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      clearly intellectual

      Yeah. That's what the officer shot himself in his office
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 29 November 2017 08: 48 New
        +5
        Yeah. That's what the officer shot himself in his office

        Wow ... please tell us more in detail what, how, why?

        And what kind of habit do officers have for shooting what instead of dealing with circumstances.
        1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
          Andrei from Chelyabinsk 29 November 2017 08: 51 New
          +4
          Let's give a better link to http://www.divizia.org/articles/2004/103.html
          1. Same lech
            Same lech 29 November 2017 08: 55 New
            +4
            Thank you hi read
            This is their kitchen ... we have nothing to do there ... I still condemn the officer’s suicide ... he thought about his relatives ... all this is silly.
          2. keeper03
            keeper03 29 November 2017 09: 12 New
            +1
            Yeah, cool temper! But in the army without discipline anywhere! hi
            Orders must be followed, but do not forget to think with your head! soldier
            1. novel66
              novel66 29 November 2017 09: 26 New
              +6
              sometimes you just don’t need to think to execute an order with your head!
          3. badens1111
            badens1111 29 November 2017 10: 37 New
            +2
            Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
            Let's get better

            A colleague ... as you say ... Surovikin is a demanding commander, tough if you need to achieve your goal, clearly sets tasks after setting them, you don’t need to specify whether to run to the NSh or to someone else. REQUIRED to succeed, then success.
            Surovikin, when K42 was serving as the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, never gave anyone any reason to A-doubt his right to give ORDERS, B-the correctness of the ORDERS given to him, the C-ability of the CD, to take decisions and give orders, to be responsible for those whom he sent to carry out the task, Mr. in his commander and human relation to subordinates.
            Having the opportunity to compare Surovikin and Makarevich, I have every right to say that if Makarevich walked over the corpses to achieve his goals, then Surovikin was not noticed in this. then Surovikin is not characteristic of the phrase-absolutely not characteristic.
        2. bober1982
          bober1982 29 November 2017 09: 01 New
          +1
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          And what kind of habit do officers have for shooting

          This is an old-fashioned habit ......... But, gentlemen, how I want to shoot. Among the middle birch trees.
          1. novel66
            novel66 29 November 2017 09: 27 New
            +5
            goat rods
            Junker Schmidt
            Fade sheet. Summer is passing.
            Hoarfrost silvering ...
            Junker Schmidt from a pistol
            He wants to shoot himself.
            1. Same lech
              Same lech 29 November 2017 09: 34 New
              +1
              Junker Schmidt from a pistol
              He wants to shoot himself.
              smile

              Be more careful with this ... otherwise ROSKOMNADZOR will have a reason to close VO ... for propaganda of suicide. what
              1. novel66
                novel66 29 November 2017 09: 50 New
                +5
                so when was it? with depressive tsarism! now another thing lol
  3. kenig1
    kenig1 29 November 2017 08: 54 New
    +4
    I remember earlier many experts in the use of aviation were indignant at how Surovikin would command a crystal vessel under the VKS abveature. Although most of them have nothing against a man who does not have a military education, he became army general and defense minister.
  4. 1 Navigator
    1 Navigator 29 November 2017 09: 07 New
    +5
    Yes, the infantry will be in charge of aviation. All through one place.
  5. Falcond
    Falcond 29 November 2017 09: 10 New
    +3
    Criminal cases were closed against him ... clean as a sheet!)
    1. kenig1
      kenig1 29 November 2017 10: 44 New
      0
      How do you feel about Shamanov who used the special forces of the Airborne Forces as the roof of the business of his relative?
      1. Overlock
        Overlock 29 November 2017 11: 07 New
        0
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=14&am
        p; am
        p; v = ExIOzrrGPZA
  6. Tuxuu
    Tuxuu 29 November 2017 09: 10 New
    +9
    I sympathize with our flyers. Appointing a red commander in the VKS ... it's fantastic ... looking at his inspired face, without even reading his biography, the sraz understood the guys were hit! They will go cavalry attack on the enemy with a sword naked.
    1. kenig1
      kenig1 29 November 2017 10: 45 New
      0
      For your development, the commander makes a decision based on the proposals of the officials of his headquarters.
  7. tchoni
    tchoni 29 November 2017 09: 11 New
    +3
    Robaska about Icarus is no longer relevant and not about the air force))) The order there will now be! But, personally, I do not envy the personnel, especially the command)))
  8. avia12005
    avia12005 29 November 2017 09: 23 New
    +6
    We'll see. The main thing that VKS did not begin to dig trenches on betonke.
    1. novel66
      novel66 29 November 2017 09: 28 New
      +4
      trench for the plane - a class!
    2. keeper03
      keeper03 29 November 2017 12: 56 New
      +1
      Horseradish trenches with him, along the perimeter of airfields, they can come in handy! laughing
      The main thing is that now our people have learned to firmly intercept the American invaders, so that the desire to fly to our borders no longer arises! Let them finally land at least one or drop it - for they got it already !!! hi
  9. Going
    Going 29 November 2017 09: 31 New
    +7
    Sergei Vladimirovich Surovikin was born on October 11, 1966 in Novosibirsk. “He graduated from the Omsk Higher Combined Arms Command School, Military Academy named after M.V. Frunze


    It’s not quite right to appoint a non-specialized boss, but it’s not for us to decide. soldier
  10. senima56
    senima56 29 November 2017 09: 43 New
    +6
    I respect Shoigu very much. But something tells me that Sergey Kozhugetovich is wrong here! That the "landman" commanded the "flyers"? .... "No, guys, it's not like that! It's not like that, guys!"
  11. loginovich
    loginovich 29 November 2017 09: 50 New
    0
    In the Russian Federation, combat pilots transferred? Of course I agree: it’s good that it wasn’t a stool, but still the Barmoleans were bombed or the AVIATORS weren’t bombed, or did Kiselev Hitchcock surpass?
  12. next322
    next322 29 November 2017 09: 53 New
    +4
    the invaluable experience of the Ukrainian Navy is contagious ..... although after Serdyukov it is no longer surprising
  13. Cook
    Cook 29 November 2017 10: 05 New
    +1
    Quote: senima56
    I respect Shoigu very much. But something tells me that Sergey Kozhugetovich is wrong here! That the "landman" commanded the "flyers"? .... "No, guys, it's not like that! It's not like that, guys!"

    Well, in addition to the Air Force, the Air Force also includes anti-aircraft and missile defense forces and space forces. Why must a pilot have to command them all? The Air Force Commander is the Deputy Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Air Force, and he is definitely an aviator. It seems to me that it makes sense to put in time a command of the airborne forces, a combined-arms commander with combat experience, in order to take into account, update or establish interaction of the airborne forces with other types of the RF Armed Forces.
  14. Overlock
    Overlock 29 November 2017 11: 04 New
    +3
    legendary person.
    Already discussed at VO:
    - The infamous chief of staff of the Central Military District, General Surovikin, has been removed from office
    https://topwar.ru/13481-skandalno-izvestnyy-nachs
    htaba-cvo-general-surovikin-snyat-s-dolzhnosti.ht
    ml
    - “The Pathfinder” at the head of the VKS will cause irritation among military pilots
    https://topwar.ru/125580-suhoputchik-vo-glave-vks
    -vyzovet-sredi-voennyh-letchikov-razdrazhenie.htm
    l
    1. badens1111
      badens1111 29 November 2017 18: 07 New
      0
      Quote: Overlock
      The infamous chief of staff of the Central Military District, General Surovikin removed from office

      This article is taken from here http://www.nr2.ru
      Access restricted
      Access to the requested resource is limited by court order or on other grounds,
      established by the legislation of the Russian Federation

      Possible reasons for restricting access
      And MEANS that this article is a typical nonsense.
      1. Overlock
        Overlock 29 November 2017 23: 32 New
        0
        The infamous chief of staff of the Central Military District, General Surovikin removed from office
        https://topwar.ru/13481-skandalno-izvestnyy-nachs
        htaba-cvo-general-surovikin-snyat-s-dolzhnosti.ht
        ml
        find the resource you specified
        1. badens1111
          badens1111 30 November 2017 09: 11 New
          0
          I recommend that you take a magnifying glass, look into the far right corner of the article you have indicated. You will see where the opus is taken from.
          Since June 2004 - commander of the 42nd Guards Motor Rifle Evpatoria Red Banner Division, stationed in the Chechen Republic. This compound was the basis of the Ministry of Defense grouping in the area of ​​the counter-terrorist operation in the North Caucasus and has repeatedly participated in clashes with Chechen fighters.
          Commanding both divisions, Surovikin gained a reputation as a tough and demanding military leader. During his service in Chechnya, his public promise "to destroy three fighters for every soldier who died" gained wide resonance. Then he served in the 20th Guards Red Banner Combined Arms Army (headquarters - Voronezh): from November 2005, deputy commander, from May 2006 - chief of staff - first deputy commander, from April 2008 - army commander.
          Since November 2008 - Head of the Main Operations Directorate (GOU) of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation (in charge of planning and command and control). Traditionally, both in Soviet times and in the recent history of Russia, GOUs were led by military leaders with predominantly staff experience, while Surovikin spent most of his military career in command posts.
          Since the spring of 2011, he led the working group on the creation of the military police of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, then acted as head of the newly created Main Directorate of the Military Police of the Ministry of Defense. On July 7, 2011, Russian Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov told reporters that the structure "will be led by Lieutenant General Surovikin." However, the Deputy Prosecutor General of the Russian Federation, the Chief Military Prosecutor Sergei Fridinsky, opposed the appointment, indicating that the candidate had a criminal record (in 1995 Surovikin was sentenced to one year in prison for “complicity in the acquisition and sale of firearms” and violation of the rules for wearing it, however, then the conviction was quashed, and in 2012 the sentence was quashed “for the absence of corpus delicti in the acts”).
          As a result, Surovikin was never appointed head of the military police, but instead in October 2012 he became chief of staff - first deputy commander of the troops of the Eastern Military District (BBO, headquarters - Khabarovsk). In October 2013 he was appointed commander of the BBO troops. In this post, in particular, he was actively engaged in the creation of military infrastructure in the Kuril Islands and in the Arctic.

          So you are either a note troll, spreading all kinds of nonsense, or not a very gifted person, judging others about all kinds of gossip.
  15. rocket757
    rocket757 29 November 2017 11: 27 New
    +4
    Discussed already, discussed.
    It is clear that the big boss does not like the teachings, just a desire to study the results of the work of his predecessors P. F. Batitsky and S. Biryuzov , also of combined arms officers. These officers had notable achievements in the development of the country's air defense.
  16. Berkut154
    Berkut154 29 November 2017 11: 32 New
    +4
    VKS is not only the Air Force, it is the Space Forces and Air Defense in addition.
  17. kaschey
    kaschey 29 November 2017 12: 05 New
    +1
    Quote: The same Lech
    Yeah. That's what the officer shot himself in his office

    Wow ... please tell us more in detail what, how, why?

    And what kind of habit do officers have for shooting what instead of dealing with circumstances.

    Do you seriously think that it was a suicide?
    Any person is characterized by his affairs, he will prove it in a new position, we will see.
    But I don’t want the pilots to commit suicide in the cockpit.
  18. Sergey53
    Sergey53 29 November 2017 13: 23 New
    +2
    Everywhere the main thing is that qualified personnel should be at the head of everything, and not the sons and daughters of the HIGHLY DELIVERED. Who know how to earn money, and the word SERVICE is absent in their vocabulary.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 29 November 2017 13: 50 New
      +4
      For the meaning of serving, very disappointing. They are like "servants of the people", but in essence are horns!
      1. Sergey53
        Sergey53 29 November 2017 20: 11 New
        +1
        I didn’t mean that, but just the one for which it is insulting. I have the honor.
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 29 November 2017 21: 42 New
          +3
          I was taught for the meaning of this word, that it is only one among the military and civil servants. I met military and civil servants who boldly and unequivocally could say - I have the honor !!! Unfortunately, I had a chance to see the opposite cases ... it’s disgusting to remember.
  19. iouris
    iouris 29 November 2017 15: 09 New
    +2
    VKS is a complex ("large") system, sharpened for the specific tasks of ground (ground) forces. It follows that the commander of the VKS should be the commander who understands the priorities of the forces working on the ground and the limitations of aviation. This is logical. Those who really want to be sure to see the pilot at the head should be asked: "Do you have checkers, or go?"
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 29 November 2017 15: 19 New
      +3
      Resentment flying ... pilots stuck. We can see how it will be, we can’t dig trenches on take-off and will not force them ... but the drill crew will not hinder anyone, we’ve gone to serve the club of interest.
      Our discipline is everything !!!
    2. badens1111
      badens1111 29 November 2017 18: 08 New
      0
      Quote: iouris
      Those who really want to be sure to see the pilot at the head should be asked: "Do you have checkers, or go?"

      A great answer to the talkers.))) soldier
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VF9JGtlBlfw&fe
      ature = channel & list = UL
      1. not main
        not main 29 November 2017 20: 13 New
        +1
        Quote: badens1111

        0
        badens1111 Today, 18: 08 ↑ New
        Quote: iouris
        Those who really want to be sure to see the pilot at the head should be asked: "Do you have checkers, or go?"

        Great answer to the talkers.))) Soldier

        self portrait. on this branch did not meet a larger talker.
        1. badens1111
          badens1111 30 November 2017 09: 12 New
          0
          non-principal - are you a talker?
          Thanks I'll know.
          Is there anything else to say in my defense?
  20. Dedall
    Dedall 29 November 2017 22: 22 New
    +2
    There is a saying: "Where the Air Force begins, order ends." So, probably, a lot of people saw a mess in the VKS and decided to appoint the next Hercules to clean these stables. It is incomprehensible only tossing his carcass from one place to another. It seems that he is like a suitcase without a handle - and it is a pity to interfere and toss.
    And now I want to specifically point out one of the places he occupied earlier, or rather, the military police. There he did nothing good, and now she is a crowd of loafers. But once she thought well. I read, I remember, once in the "Foreign Military Review" about the American military police. At the "Amers" she conducts all operational and investigative actions. And in our country, interrogating officers continue to do this instead of serving in the service. I myself scribbled so much paper with a sinister character when they appointed me to this.
    Their second function should be what the so-called "responsible" from among officers and contractors are doing now in units and units. After all, after an unregistered workload. And I once spoke with an American officer who said that in the evenings the military police check their barracks for all the illegal things. And even in the Navy it is the same with them.
    Well, the third task she should have is the fight against barracks racket. We have such a phenomenon even after the introduction of payment cards, but no one is struggling with this. Yes, much more this structure should do, but does not, instead working as a commandant patrol. But the most interesting thing is that our officers are still appointed duty officers on commandant's office.
    So in the military police, this general did not cope with his task. And what, someone thinks that he will cope with the flyers?
    1. badens1111
      badens1111 30 November 2017 17: 52 New
      0
      Quote: Dedall
      And now I want to specifically point out one of the places he occupied earlier, or rather, the military police.

      But he was appointed to the post of commander of this structure? No? Then what is your ragging ??
      Of course, throw a lump of dirt, no matter what and why, maybe something sticks .. so you have nothing, a lot and everything is not the case.