Gref withdraws Sberbank money from Russia

The other day an auction was held in the Slovenian capital, at which Sberbank bought a luxury golf club for more than 350 million rubles. At the auction, the Russian bank was the only participant. It turns out, instead of investing money in Russia, in domestic enterprises and production, the state bank acquires strange assets abroad.

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[vladimirvn]

.. the state bank (????) is acquiring strange assets abroad.

[maratk]

he was state-owned under the USSR, and now he is half-state and another private (foreign investors). My friend has a wife who runs the department. So they sometimes hold meetings of bank representatives abroad. They shoot entire complexes and sit down. So like that

[Evil Elf]

Well, when he worked there, the so-called Sberbankiada (there is such garbage like sports competitions) was held in Turkey. Deposits at 4% and loans at 24%. We live well.

[volot-voin]

[quote = Evil elf] Well, when I worked there, the so-called Sberbankiada (there is such garbage like sports competitions) was held in Turkey. Deposits at 4% and loans at 24%. We live well. [/ Quote]
[quote] [And what to expect from Gref? Gref in Sberbank and Chubais in Rusnano - this is a local victory of the liberals / quote]
When they tax the withdrawal of funds abroad with such a tax that it would not seem a little, and Kudrin, Gref, Chubais and Co. will be in prison, I will understand that the right people are in power.

[Maxim Berezovsky]

I’ll slap all the crap in the jail, and I’ll slap all my relatives into the dugout for permanent residence

[alex8]

It is necessary to remove this scum or they will let us in the world.

[Dashout]

What to expect from Gref? Gref in Sberbank and Chubais in Rusnano - this is a local victory for the liberals

[Garrin]

For that, in Crimea, he’ll work or just deliberately harm.

[Maxim Berezovsky]

You have a seperate instead of l-p and trouble; so consonant

[core]

a gref is not a gref, there is no difference, here Gazprom refineries built an oil refinery in Serbia, the legitimate withdrawal of money abroad, then the oil refinery becomes a "daughter" of the type "brother" at preferential prices without duties, and the gasoline for geyroppe for eureka. beauties. and we buy gasoline abroad, because there is a shortage. but they are struggling with deficiency, the excise tax on a gasoline will be raised twice a year. we will drive less and the fuel shortage in the country will disappear well, there is another plus, the air in the country will become cleaner ..

[Pasha]

elections are coming soon

[alex8]

This will be another juggling.

[Kent0001]

Nah, this is a global victory, because besides these two there are also Others.

[Noun2006]

Central Bank of Russia-state - do not tell my sneakers

[They <b>accompany you</b>]

How can a bank be state owned? Exaggerated Bank is the place where individual investors (a legal entity consists of founders, shareholders, i.e. also individuals) hold their money. Whoever has this money more (a fraction of the total mass) dictates the working conditions.
every penny has a master, a specific citizen. money cannot belong to things or to a “paper” definition.

[alex8]

You are mistaken, with us everything belongs to one person.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: wei

the bank is the place where investors keep their money

Right These are investors.
There are still borrowers.
And there are still shareholders.

Quote: wei

... Whoever has more of this money (a fraction of the total mass) dictates the working conditions.

And this is nonsense ...
The terms "shareholders", "board of directors" and "general meeting of shareholders" google ...
You will be very surprised, I guarantee

[vanavatny]

to hell with this most influential 3.14 country ... about the fact that the government does not have a program and it is not expected that identity is not news, but I didn’t know about the fact that veterans were thrown officially, you look, these dogs can even surprise me .. .

[alex8]

They are not only veterans, but they will soon let us all around the world.

[Mar.Tirah]

Quote: vladimirvn

.. the state bank (????) is acquiring strange assets abroad.

Sberbank is not state-owned. It is a PAO and private investors are holders of shares. Mostly foreign. India, China, Pakistan, but there are also our honorary observers, Kudrin, for example, Siluanov, and the central bank of Russia. The Russian government is now considering an initiative according to which the state’s share in the bank’s capital should decrease, but this will happen no earlier than in 1-3 years. How assets are distributed:

52,32% of the shares belong to the Central Bank of Russia, i.e. to the state;
non-resident legal entities - about 45,6%;
resident legal entities - 1,5%;
2,9% for private investors. This week, I suddenly found out that a massive reduction in the staff of Sberbank offices in Russia had begun. And the premises began to be rented out or sold .. Gref, a seasoned wolf, sensed something, that’s noticing any signs. where most of all he settled.

[cariperpaint]

they have reduced office space for a long time. optimization is it. commonplace during a crisis

[Fox]

Quote: Mar. Tira

52,32% of the shares belong to the Central Bank of Russia, i.e. to the state;

central bank private bank.

[mkop]

Quote: Fox

Quote: Mar. Tira

52,32% of the shares belong to the Central Bank of Russia, i.e. to the state;

central bank private bank.

Discover the secret: to whom does he (the Central Bank) belong?

[Sergey Klimashin]

The Central Bank is a branch of the Federal Reserve. It is not state-owned, moreover, more precisely, therefore, it pursues such a policy, and it is not accountable to the government. Every day, the Central Bank transfers money abroad, and at the same time not small.

[mkop]

If this were so, then we would no longer have existed, or we would have lived as half-wild Indians. And no sanctions need to be entered, I clicked on the right button and there is no Russia. Keep your speculation with you.

[Sergey Klimashin]

This is not speculation, but a fact! Look for information and find. But they already have a button, they earn the Central Bank, and people live on beggarly salaries. Even in the Duma they say that the Central Bank is not involved in the country's economy. So look for information about the Central Bank. And then say about speculation

[mkop]

I've read this nonsense already, thanks. Central Bank - state. a bank, the elites that rule them do not want to work for Russia, which is why there is such a situation. Concepts do not need to be interchanged. As the elites wrote the law, so does the Central Bank.
Fucking their button means. For a long time already they lived in the Stone Age, and Ukraine would seem to you a prosperous country.

[Dr_engie]

The law on the Central Bank says that it is not responsible for the obligations of the Russian Federation, just as the Russian Federation is not responsible for the obligations of the Central Bank. The government of the Russian Federation also cannot manage its activities (at least formally).

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Dr_Engie

The law on the Central Bank says that it is not responsible for the obligations of the Russian Federation, just as the Russian Federation is not responsible for the obligations of the Central Bank

And this is normal.

Quote: Dr_Engie

The government of the Russian Federation also cannot manage its activities (at least formally).

 National Banking Council

http://www.banki.ru/wikibank/natsionalnyiy_bankov
skiy_sovet /

Read and be surprised. Without the approval of this Council, the Central Bank can neither breathe nor ... can not breathe.
"Branch of the Fed" ... phe

[Slavors Gart]

“I suddenly found out that a massive reduction of employees had begun” ... Yes, Gref already knows when he told about his plans: the global reduction of employees and offices, along the way - only you alone knew.

[Metallurg_2]

Ashipka: shares owned by the Central Bank do not belong to the state: the Central Bank of the Russian Federation is an IMF branch.

[Noun2006]

Central Bank of Russia-state - do not tell my sneakers

[alex8]

Soon, they will completely ruin and plunder the whole country and leave us with nothing, while we chew here snot.

[cariperpaint]

zadolbali ... at least carefully studied the essence of the matter ... the Sberbank firstly has units that invest money all over the world. it is a business. secondly, this club belongs to the debtor whose savings are the main creditor. sometimes such a feeling appears that someone is working against the bank specifically every nonsense about them broadcasting.

[Mar.Tirah]

Quote: cariperpaint

they have reduced office space for a long time. optimization is it. commonplace during a crisis

This is the first time in our area for the entire existence of Sberbank.

[Mar.Tirah]

Quote: cariperpaint

zadolbali ... at least carefully studied the essence of the matter ... the Sberbank firstly has units that invest money all over the world. it is a business. secondly, this club belongs to the debtor whose savings are the main creditor. sometimes such a feeling appears that someone is working against the bank specifically every nonsense about them broadcasting.

Do not consider yourself a land navel. I myself am a shareholder of this bank, so I know how to withdraw money. We know about this lender, and so what? Is it necessary to support an accomplice who was shiking at Russian money or something ??

[V]

Gref is an ethnic German, whom, at one time, the German press called the future president of Russia. Naturally, our managers and people from departments did not miss this, and his political career did not take place.
He has “legendary” public statements that can characterize him in the “best” way:
27.07.2012/XNUMX/XNUMX "You can’t transfer power to the hands of the population, because as soon as people understand the basis of their" I ", it will become extremely difficult to manage and manipulate them."
16.01.2014/XNUMX/XNUMX “We need to fully support these damned oilmen and gas workers, who are the foundation of our economy as a whole. The oil curse is basically what gives us a piece of bread. Wouldn't there be this oil curse, where would we be?”
9.04.2015/55/60 "Our retirement age is too low. My language doesn’t dare to call people aged XNUMX-XNUMX old."
19.06.2015/XNUMX/XNUMX "A crisis is always the result of poor management. If the liver is foolish, then you have abused a little bit there."

[Paranoid50]

Duc, as required to prove. With a naked eye, you can see how Sber ... or rather GrefBank is already rapidly losing its human face, behind which comes a blazed baryzgovaya mug. One twist with the upcoming "monitoring of social networks" is worth ....

[alex8]

There are only enemies and traitors to the people in power.

[Mar.Tirah]

Quote: Fox

Quote: Mar. Tira

52,32% of the shares belong to the Central Bank of Russia, i.e. to the state;

central bank private bank.

I would say a cunning bank! This is how to look. The state’s share in a private bank, or private capital protected by state obligations, in a state bank. Does the name of the PJSC tell you anything? Besides, the state leaves it, reducing its share. Read carefully publication.

[tchoni]

350 million rubles for Gref and Sberbank .... well, it's like you go to a cafe ... Spending them is an innocent prank.

[kunstkammer]

Quote: Mar. Tira

52,32% of the shares are held by the Central Bank of Russia, i.e. to the state

from which hangover does the Central Bank belong to Russia? It is a branch of the American reserve system and operates under its management. In much the same way that Siemens manages all Russian turbine manufacturing enterprises: enterprises like the Russians built by our fathers, and they work according to German laws and revenues go west.
The Central Bank also directs the income of all of Russia to America.

[Valery Saitov]

Nobody has established the Central Bank of the Russian Federation modern for us. It arose as a result of a succession chain as a result of reorganizations in the form of transformations or simply renaming of predecessor banks! There is a phrase on Wikipedia: "The Central Bank of the Russian Federation (Bank of Russia) was established on July 13, 1990." - this is mistake. In fact, clause 2 of the Decree of the Supreme Council of the RSFSR of 13.07.1990 literally sounds like this:
"2. The Russian Republican Bank of the State Bank of the USSR is being transformed into the State Bank of the RSFSR, reporting to the Supreme Council of the RSFSR."
As we see about any institution, the decision does not address it. It only refers to the next succession.
So the father of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation was the Central Bank of the RSFSR (father), which in turn arose from the State Bank of the RSFSR (grandfather), which in turn arose from the Russian Republican Bank of the USSR State Bank (great-grandfather), which in turn arose from the State Bank USSR (great-great-grandfather), which in turn arose from the State Bank of the RSFSR (great-great-grandfather), which FINALLY WAS REALLY ESTABLISHED by the Council of People's Commissars of the RSFSR in October 1921, which, as you know, at that time combined the functions of an executive and legislative body government authority, therefore, on behalf of his body, the All-Russian Central Executive Committee, on October 13, 1921, approved a Regulation on the State Bank of the RSFSR as a separate decree. According to Article 11 of the Federal Law, the profit of the Bank of Russia is defined as the difference between the amount of income from banking operations and transactions provided for in Article 46 of the Federal Law ( the provision of loans, the sale of securities on the open market, the sale and purchase of the shaft utilities, precious metals and other currency values, opening accounts, etc.) and income from participation in the capital of credit organizations and expenses associated with the Bank of Russia fulfilling its functions established by Article 4 of the Federal Law (issuing cash, managing gold reserves, currency regulation and currency control, consulting services to the government and the Ministry of Finance, preparation of the balance of payments of Russia, etc.)
Cash received as a result of the cash issue is not included in the Bank of Russia income!
Thus, the Central Bank prints money (rubles) under treasury bills or federal bonds absolutely free of charge for the federal budget! Moreover, he pays for printing money services (paint, paper, electricity, labor of printers, etc.) from the Central Bank’s own income received on a commission basis from the above banking operations and transactions.
At the same time, the Bank of Russia annually submits to the State Duma its balance sheet and income statement, which the State Duma considers before July 1 of the year following the reporting year and makes a decision. The Bank of Russia annual report is published no later than July 15 of the year following the reporting one.
9. The order of distribution of profit of the Central Bank.
According to Article 26 of the Federal Law. After approval of the annual financial statements of the Bank of Russia by the Board of Directors, the Bank of Russia transfers to the federal budget 50 percent of the profit actually received by it at the end of the year, remaining after taxes and fees in accordance with the Tax Code of the Russian Federation. The remaining profit of the Bank of Russia is allocated by the Board of Directors to reserves and funds for various purposes.

[Dedall]

I hate Moscow rulers and they sang along !!!!!

[Alexander Golubev]

What kind of society (capitalist). such is the government.

[HEATHER]

350 million rubles. Little thing.

[HEATHER]

Gref's time to stand on end. Those who have problems with the people are unnecessary. This is a soft video. It's cruel. There are no golf courses needed. People survive as best they can. Grefa is here for a year, for a salary of 1200. Rubles.

[Old Horseradish]

It’s not a sin to repeat the old comment.
“But in general, the oligarchs now seem to have a full trumpet in their heads. But the most interesting thing in all this cave theater of the oligarchy is that in February 2018 Big Brother will publish a list of our heroes.
"What kind of heroes?" - you ask. And those heroes who stole a trillion bucks in Russia and hid in the United States. And a trillion dollars is serious! Even my favorite Roldugin, with his stolen two billion dollars, looks like a poor street musician against this background.
What is a trillion dollars for Russia? - This is almost FIVE ANNUAL BUDGETS OF THE COUNTRY. This is what I understand, oil painting! "

And you are here about some "pennies" of Sberbank. Yes, it’s for them for seeds, and for children for ice cream.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Old Fuck

What is a trillion dollars for Russia? - This is almost FIVE ANNUAL BUDGETS OF THE COUNTRY. This is what I understand, oil painting! "

Colleague, it smells more than one trillion Kerimka is the first swallow

[Seryoga Gord]

data hesitant in the media - from 1 to 3 trillion dollars ...))

[Dashout]

Quote: VERESK

People survive as best they can. Grefa here for a year, for a salary in 1200. Ruble.

I have no words!!!
The railway in the USSR was a city-forming enterprise, but geographically stretched along the map in accordance with the location of the railway. In 90's, effective managers began to corporatize - and they threw the entire social network into the street! Like this!
As for coal mines, Tuleyev received enough funds from the budget for construction. But Tuleyev is the Kemerovo region - a neighbor ...
No words ... poor people .... himself from Novosibirsk ...

[Sergey53]

Sorry, the bank is managed by Gref and not the state. If the state has a blocking stake, i.e. 51% then why is this citizen still in this position? Or is everyone interested in this, except for the people?

[Alexander Golubev]

Gref feeds in its place, others take other places. who also feed in their places! The state is like a hive. bees collect honey, drones empty the honeycombs, and the uterus produces drones for itself. When the bees begin to realize that they are robbed by drones, emptying the honeycombs, condemning the bees to starvation, they destroy the drones and the uterus, replacing it with another.

[Alex Tsargas]

Gref is an anti-people oligarch official, like Chubais and Medvedev’s company.

[Metallurg_2]

It’s always like this with us - the king is good, he’s the boyars of him are bad. In 1917, however, it dawned on some that the problem was still in the king ...

[Vdi73]

Gref, buy something in the Crimea ... or you’re also participating in sanctions. State oligarchs are filthy, correctly red crushed you into cabbage.

[Alexander Prikhodko]

all power to the soviets - down with the bourgeoisie

[chief.matros]

such persons as Gref, Kudrin, Chubais it’s high time to engage in special services, a lot of interesting things to plunder Russia and secret fraud can be dug up

[Slavors Gart]

special services - from Mars chtol? , the entire state structure is one thing: banks, army, cops, special services are service staff, people are slaves.

[dmitry.kashkaryow]

It seems to me that it’s time for the president to take a closer look at his greyhound managers!

[Seryoga Gord]

even if you show with your hand where to look, a person who doesn’t cut into the economy can help you a little from the word, it’s not his mind that it soon came out, they will transfer the economy to military tracks and nationalize VV and Co, as in 17m ... )))

[Alexander Golubev]

Is the president white and fluffy? His boyars blindfolded his eyes, so he doesn’t see it. what is happening? The fish rots from the head!

[kartalovkolya]

But for some reason they clean it from the tail! That's the paradox, it's mine!

[Damask]

And what do you want, Putin and his team, or still believe in a good king, everyone rejoice yesterday, for giving birth to a baby from 18 years old 10pcs every month, only there is still an add-on

[SergF123]

To whom sanctions - to whom a communal apartment and gasoline are twice as expensive, to whom a golf club - to whom cameras for fines! And what they wanted, GDP is growing, whatever that means!

[SergF123]

I remembered the song Slepakova - "I'm afraid of Putin"!)))
Apparently, the hosts of Russian life in Putin will be afraid of this golf club. Any doubts about decency?

[Dashout]

Do not listen to Slepakov ...

[Wolka]

worthless so, the gref is not a gref, but to change urgently ...

[kunstkammer]

Quote: Alexander Golubev

robbing drones, devastating honeycombs dooming bees to starvation, then they destroy drones and uterus

tempting ... tempting ....

[kunstkammer]

Quote: Damask

for the birth of a child from 18 year 10pcs every month

After Putin announced a salary increase for doctors, they began to massively reduce doctors. After the application for payment of money to women in childbirth ... I’m even afraid to say what his effective friends will do!

[JETFLAG]

How Gref ruins Sberbank:
http://voprosik.net/kak-gref-razoryaet-sberbank/

[Vladimir SHajkin]

Kudrin, not more than 2-3 years ago, spoke about the too rapid growth of the salary of Russians.

[Alexander Dyakov]

One gets the impression that I am watching a bitch wedding, in which, in the role of a seated father, there is a collective image, of swindlers and scum of all stripes, and also, at the head of the table, is a wedding general who looks like a premiere who mumbles something inaudible (apparently "crooked") - about a decent life, salaries, pensions ... (apparently their own).

[barik92090]

BUT, you, fasten yourself!

[kartalovkolya]

Well, this is already a bust, as the cat Matroskin said, for someone else’s money it was so reckless to walk and is not afraid of anything! It's time for us all to refuse the services of this fake. State Bank and transfer our pennies to a more reliable jar (3 liter glass), otherwise you look at this Gref between the case and our money.

[Metallurg_2]

Presumably, he has already attached it, and so he is afraid of sanctions for the Crimea.
For if all this money is frozen, it will be difficult for investors to explain ...

[semtex]

.A people completely forgot.

[Leonid Har]

Sberbank thought - a private office that wants something and does it. Turns out a state-owned enterprise?

[PLOHICH56]

all strangle!

[RobertZone]

Are sofa analysts gathered? The conversation was about Sberbank. And what about the Central Bank?

[Svarozhich]

... Gref ... Serdyukov ... Chubais ... Mutko ... and the other, the other - are unsinkable, with a license for mischief at a FOREIGN account.

[SerZh1972]

Well, GOG, a couple of NG, Sbera’s money was squandering. He rode on a horse, then skated ...

[VladGashek]

Established in the middle of the 1th century, the People’s Bank has now transformed into a very rich commercial bank. And all this due to the fooling of depositors, transferring the bank the right to pay pensions to the elderly and other state privileges. It’s time to clearly say: Sberbank is a large commercial bank and nothing more. Otherwise, we will wait for the full privatization of the bank by Gref and millions of deceived depositors.

[vladimir-63-07mail.ru]

Gref, (my personal opinion) is a little fool upstart with a good sense of conjuncture and a grip. If you plunge into the history of his ascent, we will not see anything worthy, brought to its logical conclusion. to whom it is more convenient) his own undertakings. In my opinion, a person does not burden himself with great responsibility for his own decisions not before the state and not before the people. Russian, of those Russians in power who do not care about Russia. Sberbank is just for such a type. Money is with him. Responsibility does not burden, it officially withdraws money, Gref's dream came true! I’ll collect, pensioners trust in the old way or rather out of habit. That's who needs to explain where their pensions go. Including the tidy sums allocated by the government to support banks, for some reason settled in Ukraine. Questions arise Pts, a lot? And who allows the reasons for such permissiveness? I’ll collect the baykot!

[Fonmeg]

Russian bank under American management!

[KNG]

And our director issued an order stating that everyone should receive a salary through Sberbank, he has the best World cards

[Leonid Kadrus]

Is that news? But what did Gref’s previous remarks about the national cattle not characterize his leader and the policy of this bank? And do not confuse the State. Bank and Sberbank. Bank of Russia. We do not have a single bank that belongs to the State. Even the Central Bank is registered in an unknown jur. person and is not subordinate to either the President or the Country as a whole. The president cannot influence the policy of the Central Bank and its course, which is determined from across the ocean. In turn, the Central Bank deprives the licenses of those Banks that seem unnecessary abroad, and not our leaders and therefore the head of Sberbank. The bank is not in danger, even if it bankrupts all its depositors.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Leonid Kadrus

The Central Bank is registered in an unknown jur. person and is not subordinate to either the President or the Country as a whole

And rightly so, if you think about it ...

Quote: Leonid Kadrus

The president cannot influence the policy of the Central Bank and its course

This is a drive. I wrote already -

Quote: National Banking Council (NBS)

collegial Bank of Russia governing body. It includes 12 people. The composition of the NBS is determined as follows:
- two participants are sent by the Federation Council - from among senators;
- three - from among the deputies of the choice of the State Duma;
- three are appointed by the president of the Russian Federation;
- three - by the government;
- 12-th member of the Council - Chairman of the Bank of Russia

Quote: Leonid Kadrus

his course, which is determined from across the ocean. In turn, the Central Bank revokes the licenses of those banks that seem unnecessary abroad, and not our leaders

Delirium

Quote: Leonid Kadrus

to the head of Sberbank. The bank is not in danger, even if it will bankrupt all its depositors

the bank manager cannot “bankrupt” the depositors; it was someone who deceived you.
The fact that Gref is buying some kind of non-core institution behind the cordon - perhaps he wants to earn some money. By the way, “all for yourself” - it won’t work, something will go into the development of the bank.
Sber, by the way, is now much better and "friendlier" to the client than he was in the USSR.
That something like this.

[Juja bank]

As soon as Grefu began to command in Sberbank - she took everything

[tochila]

So that’s why he had the face of a naughty cat at a meeting with the president !!! You don’t even have to be an outstanding psychologist to make a verdict - GUILTY !!! Eyes ran, hands sweated and fussed !!!

[Golovan Jack]

... a chic golf club for more than 350 million rubles ...

Is this for six lyamo raccoons, or what?
What kind of "chic club" is this?
* For reference: the golf course has a size of "from several units to several tens of hectares", by the way.
So the news is either complete mess, or Sber very well bought a little bit of zemlyatse ...
* For reference: The Central Bank of the Russian Federation, which owns 50% of the charter capital plus one voting share, is the main shareholder and founder of Sberbank of Russia. Other shareholders of the Bank are international and Russian investors..
So here it is -

National Bank acquires strange assets abroad

- eat pure lies
PS: Hello to all adherents of the Kotonosovs