The second launch in the history of the cosmodrome

The Vostochny launch site launched the Soyuz-2.1b rocket with the Meteor-M hydrometeorological satellite No.2-1, the Baumanets-2 student apparatus and 17 by foreign nanosatellites.

There is a lift contact (a command denoting "tearing off" from the launch complex)

- said the announcer at the launch pad.
Later, the launch commentator reported that the Fregat upper stage was separated from the rocket.

The objectives of "Meteor" - climate monitoring and weather forecast. Satellite data will help determine the temperature at the surface of the seas, the distribution of humidity in the atmosphere. Its exit to the calculated orbit altitude 825,5 kilometer is planned for 9: 42 Moscow time.

18 of small spacecraft from different countries, including Baumanets-2 (Russia), LEO Vantage (Canada), AISSat-W (Norway), IDEA, will go to Soyuz in orbit on Soyuz as an associated load along with Meteor. (Japan). Also, SEAM (Sweden) satellites, two Landmapper-BC (USA), 10 satellites LEMUR (USA) and D-Star One (Germany) will be launched into space.

The first launch from the spaceport took place in April last year. Then the Soyuz-2.1 rocket with the Volga launch unit delivered the Aist-2D spacecraft, the Mikhailo Lomonosov MSU research satellite, and the SamSat-218D nanosatellite, into orbit, reports RIA News.

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[Grandfather]

Eighteen small spacecraft from different countries will go into orbit on the Soyuz in the form of a passing load along with the Meteor

nothing ... sanctions .. in truth: money does not smell.

[Zibelew]

If paid, then why not. Definitely good news.

[siberalt]

Well done students! At least something has risen from the spaceport in a year.

[penal battalion]

Well, students did not wait. As the saying goes, "Arctic fox to you Bauman!"

[weksha50]

Quote: siberalt

Well done students! At least something has risen from the spaceport in a year.

Already did not fly ...
And, surprisingly , the human factor is called the fault ... Well, at least aliens have been dragged ...

In general, this disgrace is tired and SUCH a waste of SUCH money ...
Here is WHO AND WHEN BY THE BEING FOR THIS - ANSWER ???

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: weksha50

And, surprisingly, the human factor is called the fault ..

Bishop Lucian is to blame. Sanctified not like that ... Hackman.

[Normal ok]

Quote: siberalt

Well done students! At least something has risen from the spaceport in a year.

It is already known that the launch was unsuccessful. The booster block, along with the satellites, fell to the Ocean, in the Antarctic region.

[dSK]

The Prime Minister said that the introduction of the new spaceport into full operation will provide freedom to launch any space technology. Now, the competent authorities are already discussing work on the second stage of the construction of the cosmodrome, during which several kilometers another launch pad for the Angara-A5 heavy rocket will be created, added Dmitry Olegovich Rogozin.

[Sling cutter]

Quote from dsk

work on the second stage of the construction of the spaceport is being discussed, during which another launch pad for the Angara-A5 heavy rocket will be created a few kilometers away, added Dmitry O. Rogozin.

And Rogozin added another 100, thought and poured another fifty dollars. After which he called the chief technical officer and reported, the second “table” is necessary, “half” is only “sawn”, it’s no longer possible, I will report the rest to Dimon, hung up the “turntable” and finished it, bought in dutti fri london, a viskar straight from his throat, heaved a sigh of relief and began to call his high-ranking sons about cheap loans.

[Alex_K]

Now smell. The Union crashed. Now for a long time no one will order.

[penal battalion]

So Union well done - fulfilled its task. And here is the overclocking module ..... $ 300 million downstream dog ...

[Leeds]

About .. to the whole world once again ((And how did you laugh at the coconuts here, that they are without our engines, and we, ha ha, ho-ho

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Leeds

About .. to the whole world once again ((And how did you laugh at the coconuts here, that they are without our engines, and we, ha ha, ho-ho

Once again - this is how ??? when was the previous time ????

[Leeds]

When was the last time our rocket crashed? Are you under acetone or what?

[Nikolai Grek]

you’re probably under acetone !!! you do not know the date when it was ????

[Vlad.by]

Maybe this is a special operation for bankruptcy abroad, through insurance organizations ???
Damn, Frigate again! Again, his sails did not open?

[Vadim237]

All 10 billion rubles were sprayed on airspace.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Alex_K

Now smell. The Union crashed. Now for a long time no one will order.

everything was insured there !!!

[Leeds]

Kolya, it’s a pity that Nick Giant of thoughts is busy on the site.

[Muvka]

Well. Oriental is alive, all-wearers? And there will be another launch this year. And today flew the 30th SSJ this year :)

[Jedi]

For someone, a second successful launch does not at all become an excuse for stopping whining.

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: Jedi

For someone, a second successful launch does not at all become an excuse for stopping whining.

well, the difference is that between launches a year and a half - when at least once a month there will be launches, then you can throw hats

[AnpeL]

well, the difference is that between launches a year and a half - when at least once a month there will be launches, then you can throw hats

the time will come and will be once a month, if necessary

[Muvka]

Quote: Stirbjorn

Quote: Jedi

For someone, a second successful launch does not at all become an excuse for stopping whining.

well, the difference is that between launches a year and a half - when at least once a month there will be launches, then you can throw hats

Next month there will be a launch. You are satisfied?

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: Muvka

Next month there will be a launch. You are satisfied?

well, and then again, according to plan, a break of at least six months

[210ox]

Maksim I’m the only thing I’ll offer .. To this rocket to tie the perpetrators of theft at this facility.

Quote: Jedi

For someone, a second successful launch does not at all become an excuse for stopping whining.

[KP8789]

210ox
Maksim I’m the only thing I’ll offer .. To this rocket to tie the perpetrators of theft at this facility.

Then there will be an overload and the rocket will not take off.

[Jedi]

Quote: 210ox

To this missile to tie caught in theft at this facility.

Dmitriy The absence of a lander is implied.

[Vlad.by]

And also responsible for the defects in the Frigate. Zadolbal already this overclocking unit.

[Victor Dubovitsky]

Quote: Jedi

For someone, a second successful launch does not at all become an excuse for stopping whining.

For such bench tests, the pindos of its engine means more complete launch of the Russian carrier. For this, after all, they do not pay.

[Jedi]

Quote: Victor Dubovitsky

For this, after all, they do not pay.

This is the whole essence of the "speeches" of such critics.

[AID.S]

Quote: Jedi

For someone, a second successful launch does not at all become an excuse for stopping whining.

It seems that the problem has appeared ....

[Muvka]

In any case, this is not a problem that arose due to the cosmodrome.

[AID.S]

Quote: Muvka

In any case, this is not a problem that arose due to the cosmodrome.

Will we be optimistic optimists? The problem seems to be a system one. The entire space industry.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: AID.S

Quote: Muvka

In any case, this is not a problem that arose due to the cosmodrome.

Will we be optimistic optimists? The problem seems to be a system one. The entire space industry.

come on???!!! Lope of unsuccessful launches this year ???

[Town Hall]

Quote: Jedi

For someone, a second successful launch does not at all become an excuse for stopping whining.

Roscosmos has confirmed the loss of communication with the Meteor-M satellite launched from Vostochny Cosmodrome. This was reported on the official page of Roscosmos in social networks.
“As a result of the Soyuz-2.1b launch vehicle, the head unit as part of the Frigate upper stage and the Meteor-M spacecraft was put into a predetermined intermediate orbit. However, during the first scheduled communication session with the spacecraft, it was not possible to establish communication due to the absence of it in the target orbit, ”the report said.
Earlier it was reported that during the launch of the Soyuz-2.1b launch vehicle from the Vostochny spaceport, an emergency could occur with the Frigate upper stage.
This was the second launch in history of a rocket from Vostochny Cosmodrome.

Газета.ру

[PalBor]

Quote: Jedi

For someone, a second successful launch does not at all become an excuse for stopping whining.

Yes that's just the point. Launch (rockets) is successful, but release (satellites) is not.

[Black5Raven]

Today, the Soyuz-2.1b rocket was launched from Vostochny Cosmodrome with the Meteor-M satellite and another 18 satellites of associated load. However, they never reached the target orbit, according to Roskosmos. Sources in the space industry suggest that at one stage the rocket could explode and sink in the ocean.

“As a result of the Soyuz-2.1b launch vehicle, the head unit consisting of the Fregat RB and the Meteor-M spacecraft was put into a predetermined intermediate orbit. However, during the first scheduled communication session with the spacecraft, it was not possible to establish communication due to its absence in the target orbit. Information is currently being analyzed, ”says the Roskomos website.

Quote: Jedi

For someone, a second successful launch does not at all become an excuse for stopping whining.

All is well beautiful Marquise

[Normal ok]

Quote: Jedi

For someone, a second successful launch does not at all become an excuse for stopping whining.

So he is unsuccessful. Read the news.

[Don]

Quote: Muvka

And there will be another launch this year. And today 30 SSJ flew this year :)

Do not tell a handkerchief Ilon Mask and a cat of the general director of a Boeing As you know, everything is known in comparison. Regarding some kind of Honduras, Russia is a space and aviation power; relative to the USA, it is a former aerospace power.

[Muvka]

And what, Musk built a spaceport? Am I missing something?

[Solomon Kane]

He is still raving about space flights .... Azimov has read it .....
From fantasy to start, like to donkey Easter
The SpaceX project-PH Vulcan starts no earlier than 2024 ....
In the meantime, the Atlas 5 launch vehicle will launch on the Russian RD-180.
It’s in striped traditions: to cheat someone else’s, at the same time, not offering anything of his own ...

[Blackmokona]

LV Volcano ULA project.
SpaceX actively fly on the Falcons, 16 launches have already been completed this year.

[Solomon Kane]

Yes, the 9 Falcons seriously hit the cost of launching Russian missiles.
Only the Proton Light and Medium program will save ... or Soyuz-5 (Sunkar) with RD0162D2A, but this is after 2025.
Although they could save on a "cut", which takes 15-23% of the cost of PH. There is only one conclusion - We need "landing", hard ...

[Blackmokona]

While only building on the border with Mexico

[forty-eighth]

Builds. In texas

Quote: Muvka

And what, Musk built a spaceport? Am I missing something?

[IL-18]

They were even delighted. Now, they have an incentive to improve product quality and lower prices: market competition has not decreased.

[Colonel]

Quote: Donskoy

former aerospace power

Too shy to ask, on whose ships do astronauts get to the ISS now?

[Don]

Honestly, I don’t know if you can be proud that you work as a taxi driver in your father’s car? The person you are driving has his own car, but it’s cheaper and easier to pay you to get to work. He is more busy exploring other planets and galaxies. Almost all of our current picture of the universe is formed thanks to his work. Everyone must decide, based on his life ambitions, who he wants to be, a taxi driver or a scientist.

[Solomon Kane]

Riding a taxi all the time - you lose your driving skill ...
Get to work - yes, but if you need to go further, where is the guarantee in the qualification of a taxi driver and the reliability of his car?

[Don]

Quote: Solomon Kane

Riding a taxi all the time - you lose your driving skill ...

Does he really need this skill? Here you have no janitor skills, because Ravshan from Tajikistan does it for you. No cook skills, as you eat in a cafe and buy ready-made products that a farmer grew up let’s say from the Oryol region. Is this critical for you in today's world? Many years ago, your survival would have depended on it, but today?

[Solomon Kane]

This, Dear, is the thinking of Mitrofanushka according to Fonvizin:

"The door is an adjective because it is attached"
Why know geography? The cab will take you.

[komvap]

Especially touching are the statements of nasa defenders,
that like NASA-VCA fly on unions, since it’s not a lordly job to work with space cabs ..
But for some reason they are trying to do FOUR devices right away,
so as not to crap - suddenly a ride somewhere !! :
Dragon Crew;
Boeing Starliner;
Lockheed Orion;
DreamChaser

[Don]

Quote: komvap

But for some reason they are trying to do FOUR devices right away

Why in Germany Audi, Volkswagen, Opel, BMW, etc. are produced at the same time, when they have an excellent Mercedes car? And in Russia, with all its might, the state forces people to buy this cf..e bucket from AvtoVAZ! Because you don’t even understand this, I’ll chew you completely. Competition improves quality and reduces price, while monopoly does the opposite.

[Dead duck]

Quote: Donskoy

Why in Germany Audi, Volkswagen, Opel, BMW, etc.

and other rockets and planes ... like icebreakers ...
Following your logic, Germany is a backward country, because it does not build icebreakers
and a great country must be able to do everything.
To be able to do different things, especially since we have not the Middle Ages ... the division of labor exists and other economic benefits.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Deadush

Quote: Donskoy

Why in Germany Audi, Volkswagen, Opel, BMW, etc.

and other rockets and planes ... like icebreakers ...
Following your logic, Germany is a backward country, because it does not build icebreakers
and a great country must be able to do everything.
To be able to do different things, especially since we have not the Middle Ages ... the division of labor exists and other economic benefits.

yes he is a troll about German cars ... he found someone to cite as an example in the light of the grandiose scandals surrounding fraud with emission indicators !!! and this current is a small part, which was brought to the public !!!

[komvap]

You just wrote that being cabmen is not a noble cause.
In this, all nasa propagandists are the same - they contradict themselves.
Therefore, everyone laughs at them.

[Letun]

Quote: komvap

In this, all nasa propagandists are the same - they contradict themselves.
Therefore, everyone laughs at them.

Well, laugh at the Curiosity rover weighing 900 kg and launched in 2011. And then honestly admit to yourself whether Roskosmos is capable of this. And then laugh at yourself ...

[komvap]

Quote: Donskoy

Quote: komvap

But for some reason they are trying to do FOUR devices right away

Why in Germany Audi, Volkswagen, Opel, BMW, etc. are produced at the same time, when they have an excellent Mercedes car?

about cars the keyword "do".
and about KK, the key word is "trying", despite your amusing statements about the fact that it is dumb to be "cabmen", and therefore the Americans do not need it.

[komvap]

it doesn’t mean that I scold foreigners
and praise the corrupt, thievish and consequently
stupid for the most part. Roskosmos.
In the Russian cosmonautics it is still worse.
They use the Soviet backlog and have done nothing new except for unprincipled modernizations.
And this hurt in manned space exploration (the Soyuz spacecraft, which was created to fly to the moon and was mainly developed in the 60s), is enough to serve not only itself, but the rest of the world.
But the potentially fast, but tied hand and foot comprador authorities of the Russian Federation of Russian Achilles may well be overtaken by a foreign turtle.
Fortunately, there is still time - about 5 years, because this turtle carries a huge load of bureaucratic snobbery and red tape NASA.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Donskoy

Competition Boosts

Are you talking about competition in terms of who will fool buyers more and grab a bigger fine ????

[Don]

Funny you type though. I didn’t answer your first comment about emissions, because and so it is clear that you specifically confuse the hot with the soft. About cheating customers, people themselves, with their purchases of cars, say where high-quality cars are produced, and where are the basins. In Moscow, you need to try to find a domestic car, entirely foreign cars. I myself now ride Opel and am very pleased with it. Regarding the emissions, I bet on a box of champagne that our incomparably more emit harmful substances than "enemy" ones.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Donskoy

Funny you type though. I didn’t answer your first comment about emissions, because and so it is clear that you specifically confuse the hot with the soft. About cheating customers, people themselves, with their purchases of cars, say where high-quality cars are produced, and where are the basins. In Moscow, you need to try to find a domestic car, entirely foreign cars. I myself now ride Opel and am very pleased with it. Regarding the emissions, I bet on a box of champagne that our incomparably more emit harmful substances than "enemy" ones.

noooooo ... you look more fun !!! if you still do not understand that Euro-American achievements are all based on deception, blackmail, bribery, etc., etc., then I am sorry for you !!!!

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Donskoy

Funny you type though. I didn’t answer your first comment about emissions, because and so it is clear that you specifically confuse the hot with the soft. About cheating customers, people themselves, with their purchases of cars, say where high-quality cars are produced, and where are the basins. In Moscow, you need to try to find a domestic car, entirely foreign cars. I myself now ride Opel and am very pleased with it. Regarding the emissions, I bet on a box of champagne that our incomparably more emit harmful substances than "enemy" ones.

here you are in "support" of your theses about the integrity of the FFsego of the ciphilized world !!!

A new blow to Japanese quality
Following the scandal with the large metallurgical company Kobe Steel in the Land of the Rising Sun is now flaring up, one must think, no less scandal with the Mitsubishi Materials. The company admitted that it was deceiving customers about the quality of its products used in aircraft and automobiles, Bloomberg reported.
http://expert.ru/2017/11/24/novyij-skandal/

[Don]

Speaking of galaxy research, I had in mind NASA, and not specifically this type. And for repeated rudeness, you are banned from me, you must be more polite.

[Victor Dubovitsky]

Quote: colonel

Quote: Donskoy

former aerospace power

Too shy to ask, on whose ships do astronauts get to the ISS now?

On the drawn super heavyweight of this American Mavrodi.

[ultra]

Quote: Donskoy

Do not laugh handkerchief Ilona Mask

And what is so "outstanding" that Musk did? List in the studio!

[Blackmokona]

Created four many billionth company?

[Vadim237]

At least take the creation of the ITS interplanetary transport system - still in development, but the engines and fuel tanks have already been made - not many years remain 6, and there the first launch.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: ultra

Quote: Donskoy

Do not laugh handkerchief Ilona Mask

And what is so "outstanding" that Musk did? List in the studio!

blew another bubble !!!

[Dead duck]

Quote: Donskoy

Do not laugh handkerchief Ilona Mask

Well, yes, a storyteller losing several billion a year is still a symbol of greatness.
and the idea of ​​“tunnels” from the seismically active zone is still an idea.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Donskoy

Quote: Muvka

And there will be another launch this year. And today 30 SSJ flew this year :)

Do not tell a handkerchief Ilon Mask and a cat of the general director of a Boeing As you know, everything is known in comparison. Regarding some kind of Honduras, Russia is a space and aviation power; relative to the USA, it is a former aerospace power.

The fall of Elon Musk began: the media finally calculated his losses
A lot has been written about the fact that the Mask business is a bubble inflated with the help of brilliant (without any ernism - brilliant) PR, colossal state subsidies and the use of other people's technical achievements. The texts devoted to the detailed technical and financial analysis (and exposure) of the Mask projects - from Tesla to SpaceX, from SolarCity to Hyperloop - are already reaching hundreds, in all the major languages ​​of the world.
Almost all of these texts ended with negative predictions about his business, firm statements, they say, no matter how much the rope does not twist, it will end anyway and so on. As an analogue of the inevitable future, Mask was cited by Elizabeth Holmes, the founder of the medical startup for the analysis of Theranos blood, whose fantastic take-off and no less grandiose crash could be observed recently.
True, all these revealing texts until recently had one feature. They were not published in the most influential, popular and respectable media in the world - from the Financial Times to The Washington Post. There, Elon Musk was invariably called a brilliant businessman, inventor, visionary, making a technological and entrepreneurial breakthrough into the future ....

https://ria.ru/analytics/20171107/1508279232.html

[Blue fox]

I’ll stay in the role of an all-crawler. :) Soyuz 2.1b was perfectly launched before this from both Plesetsk and Baikonur. Quite ordinary launches, especially in Plesetsk, are also cheaper on a budget, that is, more profit to the treasury (no need to drag rockets and satellites across the country). For example, in 2016, three of them were launched from Plesetsk and one from Baikonur.
That's when with the “Angara” (or something else) in Plesetsk and on the East the issue will be resolved positively and a transition will be made to at least the middle class in terms of payload, then it will really be an achievement! In the meantime ... For such money and terms ...

[Muvka]

What money and terms do not suit you? What is the country that has done better in the recent past?

[Blue fox]

It’s not happy because the Angara was supposed to fly back from Plesetsk back in 2002, it’s not happy that it flew only in the light class at the moment and the development of this direction was slowed down (including the second start on Vostochny), corruption and scandals were not happy in branch.

[Muvka]

First, in the middle class, the Angara also flew. And secondly - how is this connected with the spaceport and its cost?

[Blue fox]

Start middle did not notice was? :) As for money and terms ... Let's give an example on USK "Angara". It began to be built as far back as the last century under the USSR under the Zenit rocket launcher, huge funds swelled and the readiness was high. Union collapsed. A site of the type was mothballed, in fact, everything that was not escaped became unusable or outdated morally and physically. Those. the money flew away almost in vain. Well, like another country was. Start began to rebuild under the Angara, I think, no need to explain what enormous funds it all cost. Yes and time. And where is the result?
Do not think that I am with gloating, it offends me. Money affects the construction time of cosmodromes, and they directly affect the timeliness and completeness of work on tests of LV, upper stages and spacecraft.

[Muvka]

December 23, 2014 launch of the Angara-A5.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Muvka

Soyuz 2.1b was perfectly launched before this from both Plesetsk and Baikonur. It’s quite usual launches, especially in Plesetsk, and it’s cheaper on a budget, that is, more profit to the treasury (no need to drag a rocket and satellites across the country). For example, in 2016, three of them were launched from Plesetsk and one from Baikonur.

At the expense of "cheaper" is not so simple. With the Vostochny launch vehicle, all other things being equal, it can lift more payload than with the Plesetsk, because the latter is located north of 12 degrees latitude. Baikonur, however, is south of Vostochny, but there the Kazakhs need to unfasten the money.
The French generally drag their missiles into South America and do not steam.

[askort154]

Blue Fox ..... Especially in Plesetsk, and the budget is cheaper, that is, more profit to the treasury (no need to drag rockets and satellites across the country). For example, in 2016, three of them were launched from Plesetsk and one from Baikonur .....

How to look. Plesetsk - Cosmodrome MO. Baikanur in another state, we pay rent for its use (somewhere 115 -150 million dlr. Per year). Today, Kazakhstan is our ally, and tomorrow?. Therefore, we cannot be a space power, without our civilian spaceport.

[Blue fox]

Let it be known to you that from Plesetsk, Unions fly with commercial satellites as well. The situation with Kazakhstan did not happen yesterday, but so far there are no alternatives, including the blasphemy of all Protons that launch from Baikonur, and the manned Unions too. And if not, then, sorry, as long as the rating is satisfactory, the maximum.

[askort154]

Blue Fox ....Yes it will be known to you that from Plesetsk Unions fly including with commercial satellites ....

It’s well known. Since 1997 Plesetsk began to use not only Russian, but also foreign ones to cast spacecraft (satellites). But from Plesetsk spacecraft are not launched. But his prerogative remained, "to work for the Moscow Region."
The decision to build Vostochny was made after Kazakhstan’s attempts to oust us from there, under pressure from the United States, through their first astronaut who "drove" the crumbling Baikanur. At the same time, squeezing us out of "Gabola" in Azerbaijan took place. Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan simultaneously requested several times to increase our payment for the rental of these facilities. We concluded that all strategic facilities that are directly or indirectly related to the country's defense should be built on their territory.
If you do not understand this, then I am not your assistant.

[Dashout]

Quote: Blue Fox

In the meantime ... For the money and timing ..

Is it true that this is you? What do not like that? Such a great deal has been done! and development is of course ahead ... Everything will be fine!

[Zubr]

Well, here you are wrong, the mass of the payload output from the East is higher than from Plesetsk, closer to the equator. The speed of rotation of the earth around its own axis at the equator of 1.3 sound, 433 meters per second. Because of this, the output payload is higher.

[Blue fox]

Yes, but in this case it’s a bunch of militaristic spacecraft, for which putting them into orbits, in principle, depends more on the characteristics of the upper stage. Those. the position of the spaceport is more important for launching much more serious spacecraft at the geostationary station, etc. and work on manned launches, but hitherto not.

[Zubr]

I really believe that it will, will certainly be. There is not much news from Vostochny, but since there are commercial and military launches, then there will be heavy-class launches and manned launches. Now the main launch site has begun to pay for itself, and this is good news.

[210ox]

Carefully understand which orbits are launched from Plesetsk and which ones from Baikonur. If an equatorial orbit was required, this is to the East, because it is his version. The tour there is already a different state, and launch there is probably more expensive.

Quote: Blue Fox

I’ll stay in the role of an all-crawler. :) Soyuz 2.1b was perfectly launched before this from both Plesetsk and Baikonur. Quite ordinary launches, especially in Plesetsk, are also cheaper on a budget, that is, more profit to the treasury (no need to drag rockets and satellites across the country). For example, in 2016, three of them were launched from Plesetsk and one from Baikonur.
That's when with the “Angara” (or something else) in Plesetsk and on the East the issue will be resolved positively and a transition will be made to at least the middle class in terms of payload, then it will really be an achievement! In the meantime ... For such money and terms ...

[Blue fox]

Yes, that’s understandable. But they don’t start yet. There are no speeches about manned ships and trucks from Vostochny yet.

[Victor Dubovitsky]

Quote: Blue Fox

I’ll stay in the role of an all-crawler. :) Soyuz 2.1b was perfectly launched before this from both Plesetsk and Baikonur. Quite ordinary launches, especially in Plesetsk, are also cheaper on a budget, that is, more profit to the treasury (no need to drag rockets and satellites across the country). For example, in 2016, three of them were launched from Plesetsk and one from Baikonur.
That's when with the “Angara” (or something else) in Plesetsk and on the East the issue will be resolved positively and a transition will be made to at least the middle class in terms of payload, then it will really be an achievement! In the meantime ... For such money and terms ...

What about geography? Which spaceport is south? Further, we pay for each start from Baikonur. If East is farther south, then it is more profitable, since the same carrier lifts more from it. Further. Vostochny reduces launch prices from Baikonur, as it robs our friends of exclusive rape.
Think more, dear comrade.

[Blue fox]

These are all axioms, you do not understand me. The question is that what is presented as achievement is not yet. And it will not be soon for them, despite the billions spent and plundered, and time does not stand still. Victory for the time being pyrrhic.

[Sling cutter]

In the news broadcast, the orbiting satellite is lost ....

[tlauicol]

why rejoice? ditched the satellites, also pay a penalty

[Lycan]

It seems that everything is insured with them there.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Lycan

It seems that everything is insured with them there.

2,5 lard re !!

[Gradus HuK]

Muvka Today, 10:15 AM Another bummer however.

[raw174]

I wonder if there is a chance that at the right time, the weather satellite will begin to work as a defense? Target designation, reconnaissance, etc.

[Freeman]

Quote: raw174

I wonder if there is a chance that at the right time, the weather satellite will begin to work as a defense? Target designation, reconnaissance, etc.

From the wiki article

KA is intended for:
- Data for determining the temperature of the sea surface and the radiation temperature of the underlying surface;

Which "hints" at the possibility of tracking submarines.

[alexhol]

I'm afraid I won’t be able to, and for some reason I’m not surprised.

[Freeman]

Quote: alexhol

I'm afraid I won’t be able to, and for some reason I’m not surprised.

It was about the potential capabilities of the device.
And not that a specific instance has been lost.

[Zubr]

Yes, not weakly thrown. I’m interested in the total cost of this launch ..

[aszzz888]

Zubr Today, 10:21 I am interested in the total cost of this launch.

... many, very many...

[Zubr]

Well, this is wonderful, it means a rather high payback. I would like to see an approximate calculation of economic efficiency in numbers ... Well, I think nobody will show us these calculations ..

[IL-18]

You would turn to Mask with this question. If they got a detailed answer, then they would fall in all the ratings of all the media in the world in first place.

[Dashout]

Quote: Zubr

Well, this is wonderful, it means a rather high payback. I would like to see an approximate calculation of economic efficiency in numbers ... Well, I think nobody will show us these calculations ..

Calculation of economic efficiency of what? Ensuring collective (state) needs? It’s you who got excited ... So you can make demands on economic efficiency to the RF Ministry of Defense ...

[Zubr]

In this case, the commercial cargo was also withdrawn, and this is money ...

[Dashout]

I agree! But this is a side product (I think so) products ... Therefore, there can be no direct calculations. Although, maybe I'm wrong ...

[Solomon Kane]

Half a yard of Baku ....

[segamegament]

But what about the Geoshorm documentary? There, mattresses on their rockets and engines bring to the ISS everything that is possible and impossible already in 2023! #You’ll see it all! )))))))))))

[Dashout]

Awoke? Suffer 150 and sleep again ...

[Sergey53]

The news is good, but there was much more noise with the launch of rockets from Vostochny Cosmodrome.

[Old military officer]

[quote = Don] [quote = Muvka]
. Regarding some kind of Honduras, Russia is a space and aviation power, relative to the USA it is a former aerospace power. [/ Quote]
Well, of course, the former, and deeply the former, where the liberals pushed her. And it holds only due to the fact that it trades with its rocket engines produced by the Energia Corporation and in places on the ISS. Moreover, they break such prices for delivery that poor Americans howl. Already 40 billion spent on these matters. And you, Don, from which Don. From under Brighton Beach?

[Anyone]

In the evening I’ll go to congratulate my father - his Meteor was thrown.

[tlauicol]

do not rush ! Seem cast into the ocean, along with aliens

[corporal]

It's early to congratulate. The satellite did not communicate.

[Anyone]

Already know - talked to him on the phone. They, too, do not have much information there yet. It is known that MCC does not see Meteor-M in orbit. There is no connection either.

[rotor]

Video appeared

[Letnab]

Today is the launch. In our area, 4 side blocks of the first stage fell in a given place. Now the places of their fall are determined with the help of drones. Tomorrow we fly out at the given coordinates, we land a group of employees of the Amur Air Base to prepare sites for helicopters in places where blocks fall. Further, special brigades will be delivered to these sites for disassembling blocks and hauling.

[Freeman]

Quote: Letnab

Today is the launch. In our area, 4 side blocks of the first stage fell in a given place. Now their places of fall are determined using drones. Tomorrow we fly out at the given coordinates, we land a group of employees of the Amur Air Base to prepare sites for helicopters in the places where the blocks fall. Further, special brigades will be delivered to these sites for disassembling blocks and hauling.

And during the time of my father’s service, there were no drones. Therefore, after the start the command sounded ("On the horses!" ) and "Alga!" - into the calculated "fall fields" in search.
Here it is - the "war horse" of those years.

Artillery heavy tractor AT-T

[Freeman]

I don’t want to sow panic, but on Radio Business FM Radio Moscow they say that the satellite hasn’t gotten in touch yet, it’s not transmitting telemetry (it’s already 2 hours, as it should).
Assume that again there were problems with the overclocking unit. Refer to Interfax
http://www.interfax.ru/russia/589341
Let's hope that everything will work out.

[Ryazan87]

Moscow. November 28. INTERFAX.RU - Experts who monitor the launch of the Meteor-M satellite into orbit have still not received telemetry of the spacecraft, there may have been problems with the upper stage, a source in the rocket and space industry told Interfax.
The Meteor-M satellite was supposed to separate at 9:32 Moscow time and start transmitting telemetry. While telemetry has not been received, an abnormal situation arose during the flight phase of the Frigate upper stage.
It started ((see, of course ..

[Topgun]

just started here in comments to bring the Mask to "clean water" ...

[Zomanus]

It seems like problems with the conclusion, the satellites still did not give a voice,
although they should have already shouted about putting them into orbit.

[Ryazan87]

EASTERN COSMODROME / Amur Region /, November 28. / TASS /. The Meteor satellite launched from Vostochny Cosmodrome is not in the target orbit, there is no communication with it. This was announced to reporters by a representative of the state corporation Roscosmos.
"During the first planned communication session, the spacecraft (spacecraft - approx. TASS) could not be established due to its absence in the target orbit."

R.S. Musk, Musk ... Is Rogozin with a trampoline better?

[Old Horseradish]

Kirdyk satellite. And the foreign mechanisms are also kirdyk. And where do we have no kirdyk at all? Oh, I remembered. We are now allowed to choose Ksenia the horse. That happiness has fallen! In old age, vote for a horse. Thanks to the native party for this.

[Freeman]

Moscow. November 28. INTERFAX.RU - The cause of the accident of the Meteor-M satellite after launching from Vostochny Cosmodrome in the Amur Region could be the human factor, a source in the rocket and space industry told Interfax.
"According to preliminary data, an error occurred in the flight mission of the carrier rocket and the Frigate booster block, as a result of which the first pulse was issued in the wrong orientation, so the booster block entered the atmosphere with the satellite and fell into the Atlantic Ocean" - said the source.

[Anyone]

Quote: Freeman

... an error occurred in the flight mission of the launch vehicle and the Frigate booster, as a result of which the first impulse was issued in the wrong orientation

Error in flight mission? Let those who made a mistake and who is responsible for this, for about 20 years now make flight missions for flocks of Lapland geese in the Arctic.

[faiver]

Yeshkin cat - again managed to ... ... but why? because we are ruled by "effective managers" and accountants ..

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: faiver

Yeshkin cat - again managed to ... ... but why? because we are ruled by "effective managers" and accountants ..

again??? and before that when ???

[faiver]

Well, yes, is it like the first time?

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: faiver

Well, yes, is it like the first time?

so when was this ???

[faiver]

about the "wrong solder" we don’t remember anymore?

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: faiver

about the "wrong solder" we don’t remember anymore?

What is the date when the launch failed in 2017 !!!

[faiver]

almost exactly a year ago - December 2016, or do you, as a budget institution, live on the budget? every year from scratch? :)

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: faiver

almost exactly a year ago - December 2016, or do you, as a budget institution, live on the budget? every year from scratch? :)

and how long must there be a period of time to receive your blessing ... year, month, five years or ten ???

[faiver]

I do not pop - I do not give blessings

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: faiver

I do not pop - I do not give blessings

so do not whistle a lot !!!

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Nikolai the Greek

What is the date when the launch failed in 2017 !!!

Yesterday it was.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: mordvin xnumx

Quote: Nikolai the Greek

What is the date when the launch failed in 2017 !!!

Yesterday it was.

you look at the beginning of this "conversation" !!

[LPD17]

will not go
again shpien unscrewed the locknut

[LPD17]

what does the master do with a negligent serf?
cuts
painfully
to get it

[Black5Raven]

Quote: LPD17

what does the master do with a negligent serf?

What does a “serf” do with a snickering master who only eats and cuts others? Sends to the pitchfork of this "boar".

[Cananecat]

Already found the first extreme from the Russian Orthodox Church ... probably not so passionately read the prayer and generally did not believe that it would fly.
The second extreme will be an ordinary hard worker, who completely lacks a production culture and the corresponding specialty ... don’t go to a fortuneteller, he collected some kind of connector with a sledgehammer.
Why is everything so predictable ... and the authorities have already counted the premiums and have forgiven their sins

[Tsoy]

Already reported. The likely cause is the human factor. Not that the pop with the rotten holy water is to blame, not that the Circuits stuck upside down again. It is not clear to laugh or cry.

[rocket757]

Change, we want change
Who will tell us what we want?
The question is to cut, and the answer is .....

[rocket757]

Bummer - a madhouse ???
What is the reason? Who didn’t wash their hands or tightened the wrong nut?
Quality mark, goss acceptance and customer acceptance - where did it go? Effective managers are to blame for everything ??? Ali officials, sovereign people, are used to NOT RESPOND FOR ANYTHING ???
A natural conclusion suggests itself - And the King is naked !!!

[Palch]

Here I look and wonder, but where are all our Urya-patriots who, early in the morning in their very first posts for the article, were blown into the puddle in one place and are now sitting quietly. Well, if on the topic of the article - one accident is an accident, two accidents is a coincidence, well, and three accidents is a regularity. So consider for yourself how many of them there were then these accidents.

[rocket757]

I am a patriot of my homeland, in fact and in the soul.
Only there is such a hitch, my MOTHERLAND is the USSR.
I wanted to write a lot ... I won’t, we simply state such a fact - what has been done in the country of advice goes, flies, swims, shoots and still brings fear to the enemies of the Russian people !!!

[16112014nk]

Later, the launch commentator reported that the Fregat upper stage was separated from the rocket.
Later it was reported that this block was splashed in the ocean instead of an orbit. But do not sprinkle ash on your head if everything is insured. At the Chinese, their orbital station will also fall into the ocean or somewhere else at the beginning of 2018, however, they do not tear their hair out on their heads.
In general, I think that the priests at the cosmodrome, surrounded by the most up-to-date and unique technology, with their “holy water” are the path to obscurantism.

[Tsoy]

Quote: 16112014nk

In general, I think that the priests at the cosmodrome, surrounded by the most up-to-date and unique technology, with their “holy water” are the path to obscurantism.

Spiritual bonds!

[Vadim237]

I believe that it is necessary to develop an air start so that all components are returnable and reusable. But this will not happen under Roskosmos; this corporation has long provided the bottom for our cosmonautics.

[rocket757]

Yes, at least priests ... although, as I understand it, something like SMERSH would be more effective!

[Old26]

Quote: Solomon Kane

He is still raving about space flights .... Azimov has read it .....
From fantasy to start, like to donkey Easter
The SpaceX project-PH Vulcan starts no earlier than 2024 ....
In the meantime, the Atlas 5 launch vehicle will launch on the Russian RD-180.
It’s in striped traditions: to cheat someone else’s, at the same time, not offering anything of his own ...

Alas, Mask all of us pulled a nose. Until November 28, 16 launches. Plus 2 more until the end of the year. But Russia at 28 launched the 18th carrier. Until the end of the year another 5 are planned. In total, as much as 23. Against 35 among the Americans. And we can long and tedious say that they are trying to cheat on us. Look at the end result. If last year the Americans launched about 20% of Atlas-5 with RD-180 engines, then this year their number will be 6 out of 35. The percentage of carrier use with these engines is decreasing and decreasing, and we continue to make it clear that they are on our engines fly into space ...

Quote: Penalty

So Union well done - fulfilled its task. And here is the overclocking module ..... $ 300 million downstream dog ...

The end result is important. Failure. And the fact that the launch went smoothly - well, but I repeat - the final result is important

Quote: Muvka

December 23, 2014 launch of the Angara-A5.

There was such a thing. In a month there will be already three years from the moment of launch. Until 2021, 2 more launches are planned. From Plesetsk. When from the East - no one knows

Quote: Victor Dubovitsky

What about geography? Which spaceport is south? Further, we pay for each start from Baikonur. If East is farther south, then it is more profitable, since the same carrier lifts more from it. Further. Vostochny reduces launch prices from Baikonur, as it robs our friends of exclusive rape.

Of the two - Baikonur and East - south of Baikonur. Vostochny has not yet reduced the start-up price from Baikonur, since it is not possible to assume that 1-2 starts a year reduces something. As for the fee for Baikonur. Yes, until recently, we paid more than $ 100 million for rent. But as far as I understand from their latest publications, the contribution of Kazakhstan to the development of the Sunkar carrier as one of the Soyuz-5 launch vehicles will not be direct cash injections, but non-collection of rent. For Baikonur.

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: Old26

Alas, Mask all of us pulled a nose.

Until people start throwing people into space, it’s too early to talk about “pulled a nose”. And what is the conversation about? Does anyone seriously hope for an eternal Russian monopoly on space flights? This is a race. Someone rushed forward, someone lagged behind. Dialectics...

[Vikmay16]

How many more will we work for the Americans?

[Old26]

Quote: Palch

Well, if on the topic of the article - one accident is an accident, two accidents is a coincidence, well, and three accidents is a regularity. So consider for yourself how many of them there were then these accidents.

Fortunately, the statistics of launches of Soyuz-2-1a and Soyuz-2-1B are somewhat different.
Soyuz-2-1A in various versions, started 37 times. Of these, 1 accident, 1 partially successful, 35 successful.
Soyuz-2-1B in various versions, started 36 times. Of these, 2 accidents, 2 partially successful, 32 successful.
Soyuz-2-1V in various versions started 3 times. Of these, 1 partially successful, 2 successful.
In total, carriers of the Soyuz-2-1 type in various versions started 70 times. Of these, 3 accidents, 4 partially successful, 63 successful. Very good statistics.

Quote: Vasyan1971

Quote: Old26

Alas, Mask all of us pulled a nose.

Until people start throwing people into space, it’s too early to talk about “pulled a nose”. And what is the conversation about? Does anyone seriously hope for an eternal Russian monopoly on space flights? This is a race. Someone rushed forward, someone lagged behind. Dialectics...

You know, about 10 years ago they mocked him, said that he would never launch anything at all. I launched it. Moreover, today it was 44 starts (since 2010). Until 2021 (this is another 4 years) - 66 more launches, among them 5 heavy Falcon-Heavy. In addition, a test launch of the Dragon manned spacecraft will be carried out by the end of the year. Next year or two - more 8 LAUNCHES. From what it will carry astronauts - it's hard to say, but it will. So I'm afraid I'm absolutely right in writing that he "pulled everyone's nose." The jerk is impressive. And the first heavy with payload of about 50 tons will be this year ...

Quote: Vikmay16

How many more will we work for the Americans?

Another year or two different. Then when they stop transferring money to us for the preparation and launch of their astronauts, which we use to create ships (they pay approximately 5 UNIONS и 4 PROGRESS per year) we will reduce the number of ships launched. This means that our part of the ISS crew will change less often. "All is well, beautiful marquise"

[Vadim237]

Yes, the takeoff is normal - the surface is already visible.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Old26

Well, if on the topic of the article - one accident is an accident, two accidents is a coincidence, well, and three accidents is a regularity. So consider for yourself how many of them there were then these accidents.
Fortunately, the statistics of launches of Soyuz-2-1a and Soyuz-2-1B are somewhat different.

he himself did not count, but simply blurted out !!!

Quote: Old26

You know, about 10 years ago they mocked him, said that he would never launch anything at all. I launched it. Moreover, to date, there have been 44 launches (since 2010). Until 2021 (this is another 4 years) - another 66 launches, among them 5 heavy Falcon-Heavy.

let's see if he will reach those times !!!!
The fall of Elon Musk began: the media finally calculated his losses
https://ria.ru/analytics/20171107/1508279232.html

Quote: Old26

The jerk is impressive.

all thanks to the state !!! no personal merit of the hunker !!

[chidoryan]

Quote: Jedi

For someone, a second successful launch does not at all become an excuse for stopping whining.

YAYAYAYAYAYA

[Old26]

Quote: Nikolai the Greek

let's see if he will reach those times !!!! wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
The fall of Elon Musk began: the media finally calculated his losses
https://ria.ru/analytics/20171107/1508279232.html

Losses in which segment? Electric vehicles - quite possibly. I do not follow this. But in the space field, he’s afraid he will crush under him most of the launch segment. When you withdraw relatively 10 tons for 80 million, and he will withdraw the same 10 tons for 50, from whom will they buy seats? As for whether it survives or not, it will survive.

Quote: Nikolai the Greek

all thanks to the state !!! no personal merit of the hunker !!

Yes, in general, do not care, with the help of the state or not. Even with the help of the state, we have more failures in the space industry than victories.

[_Jack_]

this is already becoming a tradition - again all the satellites are lost

[Old26]

Quote: mordvin xnumx

Quote: Nikolai the Greek

What is the date when the launch failed in 2017 !!!

Yesterday it was.

For comrade Nikolai Grek. the date you still will not be called, so do not flatter yourself especially. I can only say that from 73-x There were only three emergency launches of the 14A14 launch vehicle (also known as Soyuz-2-1A / B in various versions, that is, with and without an accelerating unit). Specifically, the 2-1B variant had an accident in December 2011. that is, almost 6 years ago. Then the Meredian-5 satellite (or 12L) was lost. Lost again due to the Fregat-M acceleration unit, which did not work on the second engine start. Both in the first and second cases the carriers themselves worked out normally

Quote: _Jack_

this is already becoming a tradition - again all the satellites are lost

All questions to the manufacturer of the Frigate-M booster block