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The second launch in the history of the cosmodrome

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The Vostochny launch site launched the Soyuz-2.1b rocket with the Meteor-M hydrometeorological satellite No.2-1, the Baumanets-2 student apparatus and 17 by foreign nanosatellites.


There is a lift contact (a command denoting "tearing off" from the launch complex)
- said the announcer at the launch pad.
Later, the launch commentator reported that the Fregat upper stage was separated from the rocket.

The second launch in the history of the cosmodrome


The objectives of "Meteor" - climate monitoring and weather forecast. Satellite data will help determine the temperature at the surface of the seas, the distribution of humidity in the atmosphere. Its exit to the calculated orbit altitude 825,5 kilometer is planned for 9: 42 Moscow time.

18 of small spacecraft from different countries, including Baumanets-2 (Russia), LEO Vantage (Canada), AISSat-W (Norway), IDEA, will go to Soyuz in orbit on Soyuz as an associated load along with Meteor. (Japan). Also, SEAM (Sweden) satellites, two Landmapper-BC (USA), 10 satellites LEMUR (USA) and D-Star One (Germany) will be launched into space.

The first launch from the spaceport took place in April last year. Then the Soyuz-2.1 rocket with the Volga launch unit delivered the Aist-2D spacecraft, the Mikhailo Lomonosov MSU research satellite, and the SamSat-218D nanosatellite, into orbit, reports RIA News.
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  1. Grandfather
    Grandfather 28 November 2017 10: 11 New
    15
    Eighteen small spacecraft from different countries will go into orbit on the Soyuz in the form of a passing load along with the Meteor
    nothing ... sanctions .. whatin truth: money does not smell.
    1. Zibelew
      Zibelew 28 November 2017 10: 15 New
      22
      If paid, then why not. Definitely good news. drinks
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    2. siberalt
      siberalt 28 November 2017 10: 26 New
      +4
      Well done students! At least something has risen from the spaceport in a year.
      1. penal battalion
        penal battalion 28 November 2017 16: 19 New
        12
        Well, students did not wait. As the saying goes, "Arctic fox to you Bauman!"
      2. weksha50
        weksha50 28 November 2017 20: 56 New
        +7
        Quote: siberalt
        Well done students! At least something has risen from the spaceport in a year.


        Already did not fly ...
        And, surprisingly recourse , the human factor is called the fault ... Well, at least aliens have been dragged ...

        In general, this disgrace is tired and SUCH a waste of SUCH money ...
        Here is WHO AND WHEN BY THE BEING FOR THIS - ANSWER ???
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 28 November 2017 23: 12 New
          +7
          Quote: weksha50
          And, surprisingly, the human factor is called the fault ..

          Bishop Lucian is to blame. Sanctified not like that ... Hackman.
      3. Normal ok
        Normal ok 28 November 2017 22: 59 New
        +1
        Quote: siberalt
        Well done students! At least something has risen from the spaceport in a year.

        It is already known that the launch was unsuccessful. The booster block, along with the satellites, fell to the Ocean, in the Antarctic region.
    3. dSK
      dSK 28 November 2017 12: 01 New
      +3
      The Prime Minister said that the introduction of the new spaceport into full operation will provide freedom to launch any space technology. Now, the competent authorities are already discussing work on the second stage of the construction of the cosmodrome, during which several kilometers another launch pad for the Angara-A5 heavy rocket will be created, added Dmitry Olegovich Rogozin. hi
      1. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 28 November 2017 18: 26 New
        +8
        Quote: dsk
        work on the second stage of the construction of the spaceport is being discussed, during which another launch pad for the Angara-A5 heavy rocket will be created a few kilometers away, added Dmitry O. Rogozin.

        And Rogozin added another 100, thought and poured another fifty dollars. After which he called the chief technical officer and reported, the second “table” is necessary, “half” is only “sawn”, it’s no longer possible, I will report the rest to Dimon, hung up the “turntable” and finished it, bought in dutti fri london, a viskar straight from his throat, heaved a sigh of relief and began to call his high-ranking sons about cheap loans.
    4. Alex_K
      Alex_K 28 November 2017 13: 41 New
      14
      Now smell. The Union crashed. Now for a long time no one will order.
      1. penal battalion
        penal battalion 28 November 2017 16: 22 New
        14
        So Union well done - fulfilled its task. And here is the overclocking module ..... $ 300 million downstream dog ... crying
        1. Leeds
          Leeds 28 November 2017 17: 07 New
          11
          About .. to the whole world once again ((And how did you laugh at the coconuts here, that they are without our engines, and we, ha ha, ho-ho
          1. Nikolai Grek
            Nikolai Grek 29 November 2017 01: 57 New
            +1
            Quote: Leeds
            About .. to the whole world once again ((And how did you laugh at the coconuts here, that they are without our engines, and we, ha ha, ho-ho

            what what Once again - this is how ??? when was the previous time ???? wassat wassat wassat
            1. Leeds
              Leeds 29 November 2017 09: 32 New
              +1
              When was the last time our rocket crashed? Are you under acetone or what?
              1. Nikolai Grek
                Nikolai Grek 29 November 2017 15: 01 New
                +1
                you’re probably under acetone !!! wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing you do not know the date when it was ????
          2. Vlad.by
            Vlad.by 29 November 2017 15: 25 New
            0
            Maybe this is a special operation for bankruptcy abroad, through insurance organizations ???
            Damn, Frigate again! Again, his sails did not open?
        2. Vadim237
          Vadim237 28 November 2017 18: 05 New
          +4
          All 10 billion rubles were sprayed on airspace.
      2. Nikolai Grek
        Nikolai Grek 29 November 2017 01: 56 New
        +1
        Quote: Alex_K
        Now smell. The Union crashed. Now for a long time no one will order.

        everything was insured there !!! wassat wassat tongue tongue tongue laughing
        1. Leeds
          Leeds 29 November 2017 09: 33 New
          0
          Kolya, it’s a pity that Nick Giant of thoughts is busy on the site.
  2. Muvka
    Muvka 28 November 2017 10: 15 New
    14
    Well. Oriental is alive, all-wearers? And there will be another launch this year. And today flew the 30th SSJ this year :)
    1. Jedi
      Jedi 28 November 2017 10: 18 New
      19
      For someone, a second successful launch does not at all become an excuse for stopping whining.
      1. Stirbjorn
        Stirbjorn 28 November 2017 10: 50 New
        +9
        Quote: Jedi
        For someone, a second successful launch does not at all become an excuse for stopping whining.
        well, the difference is that between launches a year and a half - when at least once a month there will be launches, then you can throw hats
        1. AnpeL
          AnpeL 28 November 2017 11: 04 New
          +1
          well, the difference is that between launches a year and a half - when at least once a month there will be launches, then you can throw hats

          the time will come and will be once a month, if necessary
        2. Muvka
          Muvka 28 November 2017 11: 16 New
          +5
          Quote: Stirbjorn
          Quote: Jedi
          For someone, a second successful launch does not at all become an excuse for stopping whining.
          well, the difference is that between launches a year and a half - when at least once a month there will be launches, then you can throw hats

          Next month there will be a launch. You are satisfied?
          1. Stirbjorn
            Stirbjorn 28 November 2017 11: 41 New
            +2
            Quote: Muvka
            Next month there will be a launch. You are satisfied?

            well, and then again, according to plan, a break of at least six months
      2. 210ox
        210ox 28 November 2017 11: 25 New
        +5
        Maksim hi I’m the only thing I’ll offer .. To this rocket to tie the perpetrators of theft at this facility.
        Quote: Jedi
        For someone, a second successful launch does not at all become an excuse for stopping whining.
        1. KP8789
          KP8789 28 November 2017 12: 44 New
          +4
          210ox
          Maksim hi I’m the only thing I’ll offer .. To this rocket to tie the perpetrators of theft at this facility.

          Then there will be an overload and the rocket will not take off. laughing
        2. Jedi
          Jedi 28 November 2017 13: 41 New
          +5
          Quote: 210ox
          To this missile to tie caught in theft at this facility.

          Dmitriy hi The absence of a lander is implied. wink
        3. Vlad.by
          Vlad.by 29 November 2017 15: 27 New
          0
          And also responsible for the defects in the Frigate. Zadolbal already this overclocking unit.
      3. Victor Dubovitsky
        Victor Dubovitsky 28 November 2017 11: 52 New
        +2
        Quote: Jedi
        For someone, a second successful launch does not at all become an excuse for stopping whining.

        For such bench tests, the pindos of its engine means more complete launch of the Russian carrier. For this, after all, they do not pay.
        1. Jedi
          Jedi 28 November 2017 13: 39 New
          +4
          Quote: Victor Dubovitsky
          For this, after all, they do not pay.

          This is the whole essence of the "speeches" of such critics. yes
      4. AID.S
        AID.S 28 November 2017 12: 21 New
        +5
        Quote: Jedi
        For someone, a second successful launch does not at all become an excuse for stopping whining.

        It seems that the problem has appeared ....
        1. Muvka
          Muvka 28 November 2017 12: 45 New
          +6
          In any case, this is not a problem that arose due to the cosmodrome.
          1. AID.S
            AID.S 28 November 2017 21: 20 New
            +3
            Quote: Muvka

            In any case, this is not a problem that arose due to the cosmodrome.

            Will we be optimistic optimists? The problem seems to be a system one. The entire space industry.
            1. Nikolai Grek
              Nikolai Grek 29 November 2017 01: 59 New
              +3
              Quote: AID.S
              Quote: Muvka

              In any case, this is not a problem that arose due to the cosmodrome.

              Will we be optimistic optimists? The problem seems to be a system one. The entire space industry.

              come on???!!! what what what Lope of unsuccessful launches this year ??? wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
      5. Town Hall
        Town Hall 28 November 2017 13: 22 New
        +5
        Quote: Jedi
        For someone, a second successful launch does not at all become an excuse for stopping whining.


        Roscosmos has confirmed the loss of communication with the Meteor-M satellite launched from Vostochny Cosmodrome. This was reported on the official page of Roscosmos in social networks.
        “As a result of the Soyuz-2.1b launch vehicle, the head unit as part of the Frigate upper stage and the Meteor-M spacecraft was put into a predetermined intermediate orbit. However, during the first scheduled communication session with the spacecraft, it was not possible to establish communication due to the absence of it in the target orbit, ”the report said.
        Earlier it was reported that during the launch of the Soyuz-2.1b launch vehicle from the Vostochny spaceport, an emergency could occur with the Frigate upper stage.
        This was the second launch in history of a rocket from Vostochny Cosmodrome.

        Газета.ру
      6. PalBor
        PalBor 28 November 2017 13: 27 New
        +6
        Quote: Jedi
        For someone, a second successful launch does not at all become an excuse for stopping whining.

        Yes that's just the point. Launch (rockets) is successful, but release (satellites) is not. sad
      7. Black5Raven
        Black5Raven 28 November 2017 16: 15 New
        +3
        Today, the Soyuz-2.1b rocket was launched from Vostochny Cosmodrome with the Meteor-M satellite and another 18 satellites of associated load. However, they never reached the target orbit, according to Roskosmos. Sources in the space industry suggest that at one stage the rocket could explode and sink in the ocean.

        “As a result of the Soyuz-2.1b launch vehicle, the head unit consisting of the Fregat RB and the Meteor-M spacecraft was put into a predetermined intermediate orbit. However, during the first scheduled communication session with the spacecraft, it was not possible to establish communication due to its absence in the target orbit. Information is currently being analyzed, ”says the Roskomos website.
        Quote: Jedi
        For someone, a second successful launch does not at all become an excuse for stopping whining.

        All is well beautiful Marquise smile
      8. Normal ok
        Normal ok 28 November 2017 23: 00 New
        +1
        Quote: Jedi
        For someone, a second successful launch does not at all become an excuse for stopping whining.

        So he is unsuccessful. Read the news.
    2. Don
      Don 28 November 2017 10: 31 New
      23
      Quote: Muvka
      And there will be another launch this year. And today 30 SSJ flew this year :)

      Do not tell a handkerchief Ilon Mask and a cat of the general director of a Boeing lol As you know, everything is known in comparison. Regarding some kind of Honduras, Russia is a space and aviation power; relative to the USA, it is a former aerospace power.
      1. Muvka
        Muvka 28 November 2017 10: 34 New
        21
        And what, Musk built a spaceport? Am I missing something?
        1. Solomon Kane
          Solomon Kane 28 November 2017 11: 13 New
          15
          He is still raving about space flights .... Azimov has read it .....
          From fantasy to start, like to donkey Easter
          The SpaceX project-PH Vulcan starts no earlier than 2024 ....
          In the meantime, the Atlas 5 launch vehicle will launch on the Russian RD-180.
          It’s in striped traditions: to cheat someone else’s, at the same time, not offering anything of his own ...
          1. Blackmokona
            Blackmokona 28 November 2017 14: 46 New
            +6
            LV Volcano ULA project.
            SpaceX actively fly on the Falcons, 16 launches have already been completed this year.
            1. Solomon Kane
              Solomon Kane 28 November 2017 15: 36 New
              +9
              Yes, the 9 Falcons seriously hit the cost of launching Russian missiles.
              Only the Proton Light and Medium program will save ... or Soyuz-5 (Sunkar) with RD0162D2A, but this is after 2025.
              Although they could save on a "cut", which takes 15-23% of the cost of PH. There is only one conclusion - We need "landing", hard ... angry
        2. Blackmokona
          Blackmokona 28 November 2017 14: 44 New
          +2
          While only building on the border with Mexico
        3. forty-eighth
          forty-eighth 29 November 2017 02: 42 New
          +1
          Builds. In texas
          Quote: Muvka
          And what, Musk built a spaceport? Am I missing something?
      2. IL-18
        IL-18 28 November 2017 10: 37 New
        +5
        They were even delighted. Now, they have an incentive to improve product quality and lower prices: market competition has not decreased.
      3. Colonel
        Colonel 28 November 2017 10: 54 New
        15
        Quote: Donskoy
        former aerospace power

        Too shy to ask, on whose ships do astronauts get to the ISS now?
        1. Don
          Don 28 November 2017 11: 20 New
          24
          Honestly, I don’t know if you can be proud that you work as a taxi driver in your father’s car? The person you are driving has his own car, but it’s cheaper and easier to pay you to get to work. He is more busy exploring other planets and galaxies. Almost all of our current picture of the universe is formed thanks to his work. Everyone must decide, based on his life ambitions, who he wants to be, a taxi driver or a scientist.
          1. Solomon Kane
            Solomon Kane 28 November 2017 11: 33 New
            14
            Riding a taxi all the time - you lose your driving skill ...
            Get to work - yes, but if you need to go further, where is the guarantee in the qualification of a taxi driver and the reliability of his car?
            1. Don
              Don 28 November 2017 11: 38 New
              +9
              Quote: Solomon Kane
              Riding a taxi all the time - you lose your driving skill ...

              Does he really need this skill? Here you have no janitor skills, because Ravshan from Tajikistan does it for you. No cook skills, as you eat in a cafe and buy ready-made products that a farmer grew up let’s say from the Oryol region. Is this critical for you in today's world? Many years ago, your survival would have depended on it, but today?
              1. Solomon Kane
                Solomon Kane 28 November 2017 11: 43 New
                15
                This, Dear, is the thinking of Mitrofanushka according to Fonvizin:
                "The door is an adjective because it is attached"
                Why know geography? The cab will take you.
          2. komvap
            komvap 28 November 2017 11: 33 New
            +9
            Especially touching are the statements of nasa defenders,
            that like NASA-VCA fly on unions, since it’s not a lordly job to work with space cabs ..
            But for some reason they are trying to do FOUR devices right away,
            so as not to crap - suddenly a ride somewhere !! :
            Dragon Crew;
            Boeng Starliner;
            Lockheed Orion;
            DreamChaser
            1. Don
              Don 28 November 2017 11: 50 New
              22
              Quote: komvap
              But for some reason they are trying to do FOUR devices right away

              Why in Germany Audi, Volkswagen, Opel, BMW, etc. are produced at the same time, when they have an excellent Mercedes car? And in Russia, with all its might, the state forces people to buy this cf..e bucket from AvtoVAZ! Because you don’t even understand this, I’ll chew you completely. Competition improves quality and reduces price, while monopoly does the opposite.
              1. Dead duck
                Dead duck 28 November 2017 12: 19 New
                12
                Quote: Donskoy
                Why in Germany Audi, Volkswagen, Opel, BMW, etc.

                and other rockets and planes ... like icebreakers ...
                Following your logic, Germany is a backward country, because it does not build icebreakers request
                and a great country must be able to do everything.
                To be able to do different things, especially since we have not the Middle Ages ... the division of labor exists and other economic benefits.
                1. Nikolai Grek
                  Nikolai Grek 29 November 2017 02: 15 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Deadush
                  Quote: Donskoy
                  Why in Germany Audi, Volkswagen, Opel, BMW, etc.

                  and other rockets and planes ... like icebreakers ...
                  Following your logic, Germany is a backward country, because it does not build icebreakers request
                  and a great country must be able to do everything.
                  To be able to do different things, especially since we have not the Middle Ages ... the division of labor exists and other economic benefits.

                  yes he is a troll about German cars ... he found someone to cite as an example in the light of the grandiose scandals surrounding fraud with emission indicators !!! wassat wassat wassat lol lol lol and this current is a small part, which was brought to the public !!! wink yes yes yes lol lol lol
              2. komvap
                komvap 28 November 2017 12: 24 New
                +5
                You just wrote that being cabmen is not a noble cause.
                In this, all nasa propagandists are the same - they contradict themselves.
                Therefore, everyone laughs at them.
                1. Letun
                  Letun 28 November 2017 18: 30 New
                  13
                  Quote: komvap
                  In this, all nasa propagandists are the same - they contradict themselves.
                  Therefore, everyone laughs at them.

                  Well, laugh at the Curiosity rover weighing 900 kg and launched in 2011. And then honestly admit to yourself whether Roskosmos is capable of this. And then laugh at yourself ...
              3. komvap
                komvap 28 November 2017 12: 56 New
                +3
                Quote: Donskoy
                Quote: komvap
                But for some reason they are trying to do FOUR devices right away

                Why in Germany Audi, Volkswagen, Opel, BMW, etc. are produced at the same time, when they have an excellent Mercedes car?

                about cars the keyword "do".
                and about KK, the key word is "trying", despite your amusing statements about the fact that it is dumb to be "cabmen", and therefore the Americans do not need it.
                1. komvap
                  komvap 28 November 2017 13: 26 New
                  +6
                  it doesn’t mean that I scold foreigners
                  and praise the corrupt, thievish and consequently
                  stupid for the most part. Roskosmos.
                  In the Russian cosmonautics it is still worse.
                  They use the Soviet backlog and have done nothing new except for unprincipled modernizations.
                  And this hurt in manned space exploration (the Soyuz spacecraft, which was created to fly to the moon and was mainly developed in the 60s), is enough to serve not only itself, but the rest of the world.
                  But the potentially fast, but tied hand and foot comprador authorities of the Russian Federation of Russian Achilles may well be overtaken by a foreign turtle.
                  Fortunately, there is still time - about 5 years, because this turtle carries a huge load of bureaucratic snobbery and red tape NASA.
              4. Nikolai Grek
                Nikolai Grek 29 November 2017 02: 13 New
                +1
                Quote: Donskoy
                Competition Boosts

                Are you talking about competition in terms of who will fool buyers more and grab a bigger fine ???? wassat wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
                1. Don
                  Don 29 November 2017 08: 25 New
                  0
                  Funny you type though. I didn’t answer your first comment about emissions, because and so it is clear that you specifically confuse the hot with the soft. About cheating customers, people themselves, with their purchases of cars, say where high-quality cars are produced, and where are the basins. In Moscow, you need to try to find a domestic car, entirely foreign cars. I myself now ride Opel and am very pleased with it. Regarding the emissions, I bet on a box of champagne that our incomparably more emit harmful substances than "enemy" ones.
                  1. Nikolai Grek
                    Nikolai Grek 29 November 2017 15: 03 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Donskoy
                    Funny you type though. I didn’t answer your first comment about emissions, because and so it is clear that you specifically confuse the hot with the soft. About cheating customers, people themselves, with their purchases of cars, say where high-quality cars are produced, and where are the basins. In Moscow, you need to try to find a domestic car, entirely foreign cars. I myself now ride Opel and am very pleased with it. Regarding the emissions, I bet on a box of champagne that our incomparably more emit harmful substances than "enemy" ones.

                    noooooo ... you look more fun !!! wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing if you still do not understand that Euro-American achievements are all based on deception, blackmail, bribery, etc., etc., then I am sorry for you !!!! request request laughing laughing laughing
                  2. Nikolai Grek
                    Nikolai Grek 30 November 2017 18: 02 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Donskoy
                    Funny you type though. I didn’t answer your first comment about emissions, because and so it is clear that you specifically confuse the hot with the soft. About cheating customers, people themselves, with their purchases of cars, say where high-quality cars are produced, and where are the basins. In Moscow, you need to try to find a domestic car, entirely foreign cars. I myself now ride Opel and am very pleased with it. Regarding the emissions, I bet on a box of champagne that our incomparably more emit harmful substances than "enemy" ones.

                    here you are in "support" of your theses about the integrity of the FFsego of the ciphilized world !!! wink yes laughing laughing laughing

                    A new blow to Japanese quality
                    Following the scandal with the large metallurgical company Kobe Steel in the Land of the Rising Sun is now flaring up, one must think, no less scandal with the Mitsubishi Materials. The company admitted that it was deceiving customers about the quality of its products used in aircraft and automobiles, Bloomberg reported.
                    http://expert.ru/2017/11/24/novyij-skandal/
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            1. Don
              Don 28 November 2017 12: 08 New
              +3
              Speaking of galaxy research, I had in mind NASA, and not specifically this type. And for repeated rudeness, you are banned from me, you must be more polite.
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        2. Victor Dubovitsky
          Victor Dubovitsky 28 November 2017 11: 54 New
          +1
          Quote: colonel
          Quote: Donskoy
          former aerospace power

          Too shy to ask, on whose ships do astronauts get to the ISS now?

          On the drawn super heavyweight of this American Mavrodi.
      4. ultra
        ultra 28 November 2017 11: 49 New
        +2
        Quote: Donskoy
        Do not laugh handkerchief Ilona Mask
        And what is so "outstanding" that Musk did? List in the studio!
        1. Blackmokona
          Blackmokona 28 November 2017 14: 47 New
          +4
          Created four many billionth company?
        2. Vadim237
          Vadim237 28 November 2017 18: 09 New
          +3
          At least take the creation of the ITS interplanetary transport system - still in development, but the engines and fuel tanks have already been made - not many years remain 6, and there the first launch.
        3. Nikolai Grek
          Nikolai Grek 29 November 2017 02: 41 New
          +1
          Quote: ultra
          Quote: Donskoy
          Do not laugh handkerchief Ilona Mask
          And what is so "outstanding" that Musk did? List in the studio!

          blew another bubble !!! wink yes laughing laughing laughing
      5. Dead duck
        Dead duck 28 November 2017 12: 22 New
        10
        Quote: Donskoy
        Do not laugh handkerchief Ilona Mask

        Well, yes, a storyteller losing several billion a year is still a symbol of greatness.
        and the idea of ​​“tunnels” from the seismically active zone is still an idea.
      6. Nikolai Grek
        Nikolai Grek 29 November 2017 02: 03 New
        +2
        Quote: Donskoy
        Quote: Muvka
        And there will be another launch this year. And today 30 SSJ flew this year :)

        Do not tell a handkerchief Ilon Mask and a cat of the general director of a Boeing lol As you know, everything is known in comparison. Regarding some kind of Honduras, Russia is a space and aviation power; relative to the USA, it is a former aerospace power.



        The fall of Elon Musk began: the media finally calculated his losses wink yes laughing laughing laughing
        A lot has been written about the fact that the Mask business is a bubble inflated with the help of brilliant (without any ernism - brilliant) PR, colossal state subsidies and the use of other people's technical achievements. The texts devoted to the detailed technical and financial analysis (and exposure) of the Mask projects - from Tesla to SpaceX, from SolarCity to Hyperloop - are already reaching hundreds, in all the major languages ​​of the world.
        Almost all of these texts ended with negative predictions about his business, firm statements, they say, no matter how much the rope does not twist, it will end anyway and so on. As an analogue of the inevitable future, Mask was cited by Elizabeth Holmes, the founder of the medical startup for the analysis of Theranos blood, whose fantastic take-off and no less grandiose crash could be observed recently.
        True, all these revealing texts until recently had one feature. They were not published in the most influential, popular and respectable media in the world - from the Financial Times to The Washington Post. There, Elon Musk was invariably called a brilliant businessman, inventor, visionary, making a technological and entrepreneurial breakthrough into the future ....

        https://ria.ru/analytics/20171107/1508279232.html
    3. Blue fox
      Blue fox 28 November 2017 10: 31 New
      +6
      I’ll stay in the role of an all-crawler. :) Soyuz 2.1b was perfectly launched before this from both Plesetsk and Baikonur. Quite ordinary launches, especially in Plesetsk, are also cheaper on a budget, that is, more profit to the treasury (no need to drag rockets and satellites across the country). For example, in 2016, three of them were launched from Plesetsk and one from Baikonur.
      That's when with the “Angara” (or something else) in Plesetsk and on the East the issue will be resolved positively and a transition will be made to at least the middle class in terms of payload, then it will really be an achievement! In the meantime ... For such money and terms ...
      1. Muvka
        Muvka 28 November 2017 10: 35 New
        +6
        What money and terms do not suit you? What is the country that has done better in the recent past?
        1. Blue fox
          Blue fox 28 November 2017 10: 59 New
          +8
          It’s not happy because the Angara was supposed to fly back from Plesetsk back in 2002, it’s not happy that it flew only in the light class at the moment and the development of this direction was slowed down (including the second start on Vostochny), corruption and scandals were not happy in branch.
          1. Muvka
            Muvka 28 November 2017 11: 10 New
            +4
            First, in the middle class, the Angara also flew. And secondly - how is this connected with the spaceport and its cost?
            1. Blue fox
              Blue fox 28 November 2017 11: 28 New
              +6
              Start middle did not notice was? :) As for money and terms ... Let's give an example on USK "Angara". It began to be built as far back as the last century under the USSR under the Zenit rocket launcher, huge funds swelled and the readiness was high. Union collapsed. A site of the type was mothballed, in fact, everything that was not escaped became unusable or outdated morally and physically. Those. the money flew away almost in vain. Well, like another country was. Start began to rebuild under the Angara, I think, no need to explain what enormous funds it all cost. Yes and time. And where is the result?
              Do not think that I am with gloating, it offends me. Money affects the construction time of cosmodromes, and they directly affect the timeliness and completeness of work on tests of LV, upper stages and spacecraft.
              1. Muvka
                Muvka 28 November 2017 11: 51 New
                +3
                December 23, 2014 launch of the Angara-A5.
        2. Piramidon
          Piramidon 28 November 2017 11: 38 New
          +4
          Quote: Muvka
          Soyuz 2.1b was perfectly launched before this from both Plesetsk and Baikonur. It’s quite usual launches, especially in Plesetsk, and it’s cheaper on a budget, that is, more profit to the treasury (no need to drag a rocket and satellites across the country). For example, in 2016, three of them were launched from Plesetsk and one from Baikonur.

          At the expense of "cheaper" is not so simple. With the Vostochny launch vehicle, all other things being equal, it can lift more payload than with the Plesetsk, because the latter is located north of 12 degrees latitude. Baikonur, however, is south of Vostochny, but there the Kazakhs need to unfasten the money.
          The French generally drag their missiles into South America and do not steam.
      2. askort154
        askort154 28 November 2017 10: 48 New
        +3
        Blue Fox ..... Especially in Plesetsk, and the budget is cheaper, that is, more profit to the treasury (no need to drag rockets and satellites across the country). For example, in 2016, three of them were launched from Plesetsk and one from Baikonur .....

        How to look. Plesetsk - Cosmodrome MO. Baikanur in another state, we pay rent for its use (somewhere 115 -150 million dlr. Per year). Today, Kazakhstan is our ally, and tomorrow?. Therefore, we cannot be a space power, without our civilian spaceport. yes
        1. Blue fox
          Blue fox 28 November 2017 11: 01 New
          0
          Let it be known to you that from Plesetsk, Unions fly with commercial satellites as well. The situation with Kazakhstan did not happen yesterday, but so far there are no alternatives, including the blasphemy of all Protons that launch from Baikonur, and the manned Unions too. And if not, then, sorry, as long as the rating is satisfactory, the maximum.
          1. askort154
            askort154 28 November 2017 12: 02 New
            +3
            Blue Fox ....Yes it will be known to you that from Plesetsk Unions fly including with commercial satellites ....

            It’s well known. Since 1997 Plesetsk began to use not only Russian, but also foreign ones to cast spacecraft (satellites). But from Plesetsk spacecraft are not launched. But his prerogative remained, "to work for the Moscow Region."
            The decision to build Vostochny was made after Kazakhstan’s attempts to oust us from there, under pressure from the United States, through their first astronaut who "drove" the crumbling Baikanur. At the same time, squeezing us out of "Gabola" in Azerbaijan took place. Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan simultaneously requested several times to increase our payment for the rental of these facilities. We concluded that all strategic facilities that are directly or indirectly related to the country's defense should be built on their territory.
            If you do not understand this, then I am not your assistant. yes
      3. Dashout
        Dashout 28 November 2017 10: 50 New
        +5
        Quote: Blue Fox
        In the meantime ... For the money and timing ..

        Is it true that this is you? What do not like that? Such a great deal has been done! and development is of course ahead ... Everything will be fine!
      4. Zubr
        Zubr 28 November 2017 10: 56 New
        +5
        Well, here you are wrong, the mass of the payload output from the East is higher than from Plesetsk, closer to the equator. The speed of rotation of the earth around its own axis at the equator of 1.3 sound, 433 meters per second. Because of this, the output payload is higher.
        1. Blue fox
          Blue fox 28 November 2017 11: 10 New
          +1
          Yes, but in this case it’s a bunch of militaristic spacecraft, for which putting them into orbits, in principle, depends more on the characteristics of the upper stage. Those. the position of the spaceport is more important for launching much more serious spacecraft at the geostationary station, etc. and work on manned launches, but hitherto not.
          1. Zubr
            Zubr 28 November 2017 11: 15 New
            +4
            I really believe that it will, will certainly be. There is not much news from Vostochny, but since there are commercial and military launches, then there will be heavy-class launches and manned launches. Now the main launch site has begun to pay for itself, and this is good news.
      5. 210ox
        210ox 28 November 2017 11: 30 New
        +2
        Carefully understand which orbits are launched from Plesetsk and which ones from Baikonur. If an equatorial orbit was required, this is to the East, because it is his version. The tour there is already a different state, and launch there is probably more expensive.
        Quote: Blue Fox
        I’ll stay in the role of an all-crawler. :) Soyuz 2.1b was perfectly launched before this from both Plesetsk and Baikonur. Quite ordinary launches, especially in Plesetsk, are also cheaper on a budget, that is, more profit to the treasury (no need to drag rockets and satellites across the country). For example, in 2016, three of them were launched from Plesetsk and one from Baikonur.
        That's when with the “Angara” (or something else) in Plesetsk and on the East the issue will be resolved positively and a transition will be made to at least the middle class in terms of payload, then it will really be an achievement! In the meantime ... For such money and terms ...
        1. Blue fox
          Blue fox 28 November 2017 11: 59 New
          +2
          Yes, that’s understandable. But they don’t start yet. There are no speeches about manned ships and trucks from Vostochny yet.
      6. Victor Dubovitsky
        Victor Dubovitsky 28 November 2017 12: 08 New
        +1
        Quote: Blue Fox
        I’ll stay in the role of an all-crawler. :) Soyuz 2.1b was perfectly launched before this from both Plesetsk and Baikonur. Quite ordinary launches, especially in Plesetsk, are also cheaper on a budget, that is, more profit to the treasury (no need to drag rockets and satellites across the country). For example, in 2016, three of them were launched from Plesetsk and one from Baikonur.
        That's when with the “Angara” (or something else) in Plesetsk and on the East the issue will be resolved positively and a transition will be made to at least the middle class in terms of payload, then it will really be an achievement! In the meantime ... For such money and terms ...

        What about geography? Which spaceport is south? Further, we pay for each start from Baikonur. If East is farther south, then it is more profitable, since the same carrier lifts more from it. Further. Vostochny reduces launch prices from Baikonur, as it robs our friends of exclusive rape.
        Think more, dear comrade.
        1. Blue fox
          Blue fox 28 November 2017 12: 45 New
          +2
          These are all axioms, you do not understand me. The question is that what is presented as achievement is not yet. And it will not be soon for them, despite the billions spent and plundered, and time does not stand still. Victory for the time being pyrrhic.
    4. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 28 November 2017 12: 19 New
      +9
      In the news broadcast, the orbiting satellite is lost ....
    5. tlauicol
      tlauicol 28 November 2017 12: 20 New
      +4
      why rejoice? ditched the satellites, also pay a penalty
      1. Lycan
        Lycan 28 November 2017 13: 15 New
        +2
        It seems that everything is insured with them there.
        1. Nikolai Grek
          Nikolai Grek 29 November 2017 02: 44 New
          +1
          Quote: Lycan
          It seems that everything is insured with them there.

          2,5 lard re !! wassat wassat wassat
    6. GradusHuK
      GradusHuK 28 November 2017 21: 53 New
      +1
      Muvka Today, 10:15 AM recourse Another bummer however.
  3. raw174
    raw174 28 November 2017 10: 16 New
    +5
    I wonder if there is a chance that at the right time, the weather satellite will begin to work as a defense? Target designation, reconnaissance, etc.
    1. Freeman
      Freeman 28 November 2017 12: 04 New
      0
      Quote: raw174
      I wonder if there is a chance that at the right time, the weather satellite will begin to work as a defense? Target designation, reconnaissance, etc.

      From the wiki article
      KA is intended for:
      - Data for determining the temperature of the sea surface and the radiation temperature of the underlying surface;

      Which "hints" at the possibility of tracking submarines. wink
    2. alexhol
      alexhol 28 November 2017 12: 37 New
      +2
      I'm afraid I won’t be able to, request and for some reason I’m not surprised.
      1. Freeman
        Freeman 28 November 2017 12: 47 New
        +2
        Quote: alexhol
        I'm afraid I won’t be able to, request and for some reason I’m not surprised.

        It was about the potential capabilities of the device.
        And not that a specific instance has been lost. hi
  4. Zubr
    Zubr 28 November 2017 10: 21 New
    +3
    Yes, not weakly thrown. I’m interested in the total cost of this launch .. smile
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 28 November 2017 10: 22 New
      +4
      Zubr Today, 10:21 I am interested in the total cost of this launch.

      ... many, very many...
      1. Zubr
        Zubr 28 November 2017 10: 31 New
        +2
        Well, this is wonderful, it means a rather high payback. I would like to see an approximate calculation of economic efficiency in numbers ... smile Well, I think nobody will show us these calculations .. smile
        1. IL-18
          IL-18 28 November 2017 10: 42 New
          +3
          You would turn to Mask with this question. If they got a detailed answer, then they would fall in all the ratings of all the media in the world in first place.
        2. Dashout
          Dashout 28 November 2017 10: 56 New
          +5
          Quote: Zubr
          Well, this is wonderful, it means a rather high payback. I would like to see an approximate calculation of economic efficiency in numbers ... smile Well, I think nobody will show us these calculations .. smile
          Calculation of economic efficiency of what? Ensuring collective (state) needs? It’s you who got excited ... So you can make demands on economic efficiency to the RF Ministry of Defense ...
          1. Zubr
            Zubr 28 November 2017 10: 58 New
            +2
            In this case, the commercial cargo was also withdrawn, and this is money ...
            1. Dashout
              Dashout 28 November 2017 11: 04 New
              +4
              I agree! But this is a side product (I think so) products ... Therefore, there can be no direct calculations. Although, maybe I'm wrong ...
    2. Solomon Kane
      Solomon Kane 28 November 2017 11: 04 New
      +5
      Half a yard of Baku ....
  5. segamegament
    segamegament 28 November 2017 10: 50 New
    +4
    But what about the Geoshorm documentary? There, mattresses on their rockets and engines bring to the ISS everything that is possible and impossible already in 2023! #You’ll see it all! )))))))))))
    1. Dashout
      Dashout 28 November 2017 10: 58 New
      +5
      Awoke? Suffer 150 and sleep again ...
  6. Sergey53
    Sergey53 28 November 2017 11: 04 New
    +1
    The news is good, but there was much more noise with the launch of rockets from Vostochny Cosmodrome.
  7. Old military officer
    Old military officer 28 November 2017 11: 26 New
    +4
    [quote = Don] [quote = Muvka]
    . Regarding some kind of Honduras, Russia is a space and aviation power, relative to the USA it is a former aerospace power. [/ Quote]
    Well, of course, the former, and deeply the former, where the liberals pushed her. And it holds only due to the fact that it trades with its rocket engines produced by the Energia Corporation and in places on the ISS. Moreover, they break such prices for delivery that poor Americans howl. Already 40 billion spent on these matters. And you, Don, from which Don. From under Brighton Beach?
  8. Anyone
    Anyone 28 November 2017 11: 34 New
    +3
    In the evening I’ll go to congratulate my father - his Meteor was thrown.
    1. tlauicol
      tlauicol 28 November 2017 12: 19 New
      10
      do not rush ! Seem cast into the ocean, along with aliens
    2. corporal
      corporal 28 November 2017 12: 24 New
      +2
      It's early to congratulate. The satellite did not communicate.
      1. Anyone
        Anyone 28 November 2017 12: 41 New
        +5
        Already know - talked to him on the phone. They, too, do not have much information there yet. It is known that MCC does not see Meteor-M in orbit. There is no connection either.
  9. rotor
    rotor 28 November 2017 11: 47 New
    +2
    Video appeared


    1. Letnab
      Letnab 28 November 2017 12: 08 New
      +2
      Today is the launch. In our area, 4 side blocks of the first stage fell in a given place. Now the places of their fall are determined with the help of drones. Tomorrow we fly out at the given coordinates, we land a group of employees of the Amur Air Base to prepare sites for helicopters in places where blocks fall. Further, special brigades will be delivered to these sites for disassembling blocks and hauling.
      1. Freeman
        Freeman 28 November 2017 13: 09 New
        +3
        Quote: Letnab
        Today is the launch. In our area, 4 side blocks of the first stage fell in a given place. Now their places of fall are determined using drones. Tomorrow we fly out at the given coordinates, we land a group of employees of the Amur Air Base to prepare sites for helicopters in the places where the blocks fall. Further, special brigades will be delivered to these sites for disassembling blocks and hauling.

        And during the time of my father’s service, there were no drones. Therefore, after the start the command sounded ("On the horses!" lol ) and "Alga!" - into the calculated "fall fields" in search.
        Here it is - the "war horse" of those years.

        Artillery heavy tractor AT-T
  10. Freeman
    Freeman 28 November 2017 11: 58 New
    +2
    I don’t want to sow panic, but on Radio Business FM Radio Moscow they say that the satellite hasn’t gotten in touch yet, it’s not transmitting telemetry (it’s already 2 hours, as it should).
    Assume that again there were problems with the overclocking unit. Refer to Interfax
    http://www.interfax.ru/russia/589341
    Let's hope that everything will work out.
    1. Ryazan87
      Ryazan87 28 November 2017 12: 01 New
      +4
      Moscow. November 28. INTERFAX.RU - Experts who monitor the launch of the Meteor-M satellite into orbit have still not received telemetry of the spacecraft, there may have been problems with the upper stage, a source in the rocket and space industry told Interfax.
      The Meteor-M satellite was supposed to separate at 9:32 Moscow time and start transmitting telemetry. While telemetry has not been received, an abnormal situation arose during the flight phase of the Frigate upper stage.
      It started ((see, of course ..
    2. Topgun
      Topgun 28 November 2017 12: 33 New
      +7
      just started here in comments to bring the Mask to "clean water" ...
  11. Zomanus
    Zomanus 28 November 2017 12: 34 New
    +1
    It seems like problems with the conclusion, the satellites still did not give a voice,
    although they should have already shouted about putting them into orbit.
  12. Ryazan87
    Ryazan87 28 November 2017 12: 35 New
    +8
    EASTERN COSMODROME / Amur Region /, November 28. / TASS /. The Meteor satellite launched from Vostochny Cosmodrome is not in the target orbit, there is no communication with it. This was announced to reporters by a representative of the state corporation Roscosmos.
    "During the first planned communication session, the spacecraft (spacecraft - approx. TASS) could not be established due to its absence in the target orbit."

    R.S. Musk, Musk ... Is Rogozin with a trampoline better?
  13. Old Horseradish
    Old Horseradish 28 November 2017 12: 57 New
    14
    Kirdyk satellite. And the foreign mechanisms are also kirdyk. And where do we have no kirdyk at all? Oh, I remembered. We are now allowed to choose Ksenia the horse. That happiness has fallen! In old age, vote for a horse. Thanks to the native party for this.
  14. Freeman
    Freeman 28 November 2017 13: 40 New
    +1
    Moscow. November 28. INTERFAX.RU - The cause of the accident of the Meteor-M satellite after launching from Vostochny Cosmodrome in the Amur Region could be the human factor, a source in the rocket and space industry told Interfax.
    "According to preliminary data, an error occurred in the flight mission of the carrier rocket and the Frigate booster block, as a result of which the first pulse was issued in the wrong orientation, so the booster block entered the atmosphere with the satellite and fell into the Atlantic Ocean" - said the source.
    1. Anyone
      Anyone 28 November 2017 13: 57 New
      +5
      Quote: Freeman
      ... an error occurred in the flight mission of the launch vehicle and the Frigate booster, as a result of which the first impulse was issued in the wrong orientation

      Error in flight mission? Let those who made a mistake and who is responsible for this, for about 20 years now make flight missions for flocks of Lapland geese in the Arctic.
  15. faiver
    faiver 28 November 2017 13: 58 New
    +8
    Yeshkin cat - again managed to ... ... but why? because we are ruled by "effective managers" and accountants .. hi
    1. Nikolai Grek
      Nikolai Grek 29 November 2017 02: 48 New
      +1
      Quote: faiver
      Yeshkin cat - again managed to ... ... but why? because we are ruled by "effective managers" and accountants .. hi

      again??? what what what and before that when ??? winked winked repeat repeat repeat
      1. faiver
        faiver 29 November 2017 07: 08 New
        0
        Well, yes, is it like the first time? laughing
        1. Nikolai Grek
          Nikolai Grek 29 November 2017 15: 05 New
          +1
          Quote: faiver
          Well, yes, is it like the first time? laughing

          so when was this ??? winked winked
          1. faiver
            faiver 29 November 2017 16: 54 New
            0
            about the "wrong solder" we don’t remember anymore?
            1. Nikolai Grek
              Nikolai Grek 29 November 2017 19: 13 New
              +1
              Quote: faiver
              about the "wrong solder" we don’t remember anymore?

              what what what What is the date when the launch failed in 2017 !!! wassat wassat laughing laughing
              1. faiver
                faiver 29 November 2017 19: 19 New
                0
                almost exactly a year ago - December 2016, or do you, as a budget institution, live on the budget? every year from scratch? :)
                1. Nikolai Grek
                  Nikolai Grek 29 November 2017 19: 25 New
                  +1
                  Quote: faiver
                  almost exactly a year ago - December 2016, or do you, as a budget institution, live on the budget? every year from scratch? :)

                  and how long must there be a period of time to receive your blessing ... year, month, five years or ten ??? wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
                  1. faiver
                    faiver 29 November 2017 19: 34 New
                    0
                    I do not pop - I do not give blessings laughing laughing
                    1. Nikolai Grek
                      Nikolai Grek 29 November 2017 20: 35 New
                      +1
                      Quote: faiver
                      I do not pop - I do not give blessings laughing laughing

                      so do not whistle a lot !!! laughing laughing laughing
              2. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 29 November 2017 19: 21 New
                +3
                Quote: Nikolai Grek
                What is the date when the launch failed in 2017 !!!

                Yesterday it was. sad
                1. Nikolai Grek
                  Nikolai Grek 29 November 2017 19: 28 New
                  +1
                  Quote: mordvin xnumx
                  Quote: Nikolai Grek
                  What is the date when the launch failed in 2017 !!!

                  Yesterday it was. sad

                  you look at the beginning of this "conversation" !! wink yes yes
  16. LPD17
    LPD17 28 November 2017 14: 10 New
    +7
    will not go
    again shpien unscrewed the locknut
  17. LPD17
    LPD17 28 November 2017 14: 11 New
    0
    what does the master do with a negligent serf?
    cuts
    painfully
    to get it
    1. Black5Raven
      Black5Raven 28 November 2017 16: 21 New
      +6
      Quote: LPD17
      what does the master do with a negligent serf?

      What does a “serf” do with a snickering master who only eats and cuts others? Sends to the pitchfork of this "boar".
  18. Cananecat
    Cananecat 28 November 2017 15: 50 New
    +6
    Already found the first extreme from the Russian Orthodox Church ... probably not so passionately read the prayer and generally did not believe that it would fly.
    The second extreme will be an ordinary hard worker, who completely lacks a production culture and the corresponding specialty ... don’t go to a fortuneteller, he collected some kind of connector with a sledgehammer.
    Why is everything so predictable ... and the authorities have already counted the premiums and have forgiven their sins laughing
    1. Tsoy
      Tsoy 28 November 2017 17: 11 New
      +4
      Already reported. The likely cause is the human factor. Not that the pop with the rotten holy water is to blame, not that the Circuits stuck upside down again. sad It is not clear to laugh or cry.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 29 November 2017 15: 14 New
        +3
        Change, we want change negative
        Who will tell us what we want?
        The question is to cut, and the answer is .....
  19. rocket757
    rocket757 28 November 2017 15: 56 New
    10
    Bummer - a madhouse ???
    What is the reason? Who didn’t wash their hands or tightened the wrong nut?
    Quality mark, goss acceptance and customer acceptance - where did it go? Effective managers are to blame for everything ??? Ali officials, sovereign people, are used to NOT RESPOND FOR ANYTHING ???
    A natural conclusion suggests itself - And the King is naked !!!
    1. Palch
      Palch 28 November 2017 17: 06 New
      12
      Here I look and wonder, but where are all our Urya-patriots who, early in the morning in their very first posts for the article, were blown into the puddle in one place and are now sitting quietly. Well, if on the topic of the article - one accident is an accident, two accidents is a coincidence, well, and three accidents is a regularity. So consider for yourself how many of them there were then these accidents.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 28 November 2017 19: 14 New
        +6
        I am a patriot of my homeland, in fact and in the soul.
        Only there is such a hitch, my MOTHERLAND is the USSR.
        I wanted to write a lot ... I won’t, we simply state such a fact - what has been done in the country of advice goes, flies, swims, shoots and still brings fear to the enemies of the Russian people !!!
  20. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 28 November 2017 17: 41 New
    +3
    Later, the launch commentator reported that the Fregat upper stage was separated from the rocket.
    Later it was reported that this block was splashed in the ocean instead of an orbit. But do not sprinkle ash on your head if everything is insured. At the Chinese, their orbital station will also fall into the ocean or somewhere else at the beginning of 2018, however, they do not tear their hair out on their heads.
    In general, I think that the priests at the cosmodrome, surrounded by the most up-to-date and unique technology, with their “holy water” are the path to obscurantism.
    1. Tsoy
      Tsoy 28 November 2017 18: 10 New
      +4
      Quote: 16112014nk
      In general, I think that the priests at the cosmodrome, surrounded by the most up-to-date and unique technology, with their “holy water” are the path to obscurantism.


      Spiritual bonds!
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 28 November 2017 18: 17 New
      +4
      I believe that it is necessary to develop an air start so that all components are returnable and reusable. But this will not happen under Roskosmos; this corporation has long provided the bottom for our cosmonautics.
    3. rocket757
      rocket757 28 November 2017 19: 17 New
      +4
      Yes, at least priests ... although, as I understand it, something like SMERSH would be more effective!
  21. Old26
    Old26 28 November 2017 18: 12 New
    11
    Quote: Solomon Kane
    He is still raving about space flights .... Azimov has read it .....
    From fantasy to start, like to donkey Easter
    The SpaceX project-PH Vulcan starts no earlier than 2024 ....
    In the meantime, the Atlas 5 launch vehicle will launch on the Russian RD-180.
    It’s in striped traditions: to cheat someone else’s, at the same time, not offering anything of his own ...

    Alas, Mask all of us pulled a nose. Until November 28, 16 launches. Plus 2 more until the end of the year. But Russia at 28 launched the 18th carrier. Until the end of the year another 5 are planned. In total, as much as 23. Against 35 among the Americans. And we can long and tedious say that they are trying to cheat on us. Look at the end result. If last year the Americans launched about 20% of Atlas-5 with RD-180 engines, then this year their number will be 6 out of 35. The percentage of carrier use with these engines is decreasing and decreasing, and we continue to make it clear that they are on our engines fly into space ...

    Quote: Penalty
    So Union well done - fulfilled its task. And here is the overclocking module ..... $ 300 million downstream dog ... crying

    The end result is important. Failure. And the fact that the launch went smoothly - well, but I repeat - the final result is important

    Quote: Muvka
    December 23, 2014 launch of the Angara-A5.

    There was such a thing. In a month there will be already three years from the moment of launch. Until 2021, 2 more launches are planned. From Plesetsk. When from the East - no one knows

    Quote: Victor Dubovitsky
    What about geography? Which spaceport is south? Further, we pay for each start from Baikonur. If East is farther south, then it is more profitable, since the same carrier lifts more from it. Further. Vostochny reduces launch prices from Baikonur, as it robs our friends of exclusive rape.

    Of the two - Baikonur and East - south of Baikonur. Vostochny has not yet reduced the start-up price from Baikonur, since it is not possible to assume that 1-2 starts a year reduces something. As for the fee for Baikonur. Yes, until recently, we paid more than $ 100 million for rent. But as far as I understand from their latest publications, the contribution of Kazakhstan to the development of the Sunkar carrier as one of the Soyuz-5 launch vehicles will not be direct cash injections, but non-collection of rent. For Baikonur.
    1. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 28 November 2017 19: 51 New
      +2
      Quote: Old26
      Alas, Mask all of us pulled a nose.

      Until people start throwing people into space, it’s too early to talk about “pulled a nose”. And what is the conversation about? Does anyone seriously hope for an eternal Russian monopoly on space flights? This is a race. Someone rushed forward, someone lagged behind. Dialectics... request
  22. Vikmay16
    Vikmay16 28 November 2017 21: 03 New
    +1
    How many more will we work for the Americans?
  23. Old26
    Old26 28 November 2017 22: 09 New
    +4
    Quote: Palch
    Well, if on the topic of the article - one accident is an accident, two accidents is a coincidence, well, and three accidents is a regularity. So consider for yourself how many of them there were then these accidents.

    Fortunately, the statistics of launches of Soyuz-2-1a and Soyuz-2-1B are somewhat different.
    Soyuz-2-1A in various versions, started 37 times. Of these, 1 accident, 1 partially successful, 35 successful.
    Soyuz-2-1B in various versions, started 36 times. Of these, 2 accidents, 2 partially successful, 32 successful.
    Soyuz-2-1V in various versions started 3 times. Of these, 1 partially successful, 2 successful.
    In total, carriers of the Soyuz-2-1 type in various versions started 70 times. Of these, 3 accidents, 4 partially successful, 63 successful. Very good statistics.

    Quote: Vasyan1971
    Quote: Old26
    Alas, Mask all of us pulled a nose.

    Until people start throwing people into space, it’s too early to talk about “pulled a nose”. And what is the conversation about? Does anyone seriously hope for an eternal Russian monopoly on space flights? This is a race. Someone rushed forward, someone lagged behind. Dialectics... request

    You know, about 10 years ago they mocked him, said that he would never launch anything at all. I launched it. Moreover, today it was 44 starts (since 2010). Until 2021 (this is another 4 years) - 66 more launches, among them 5 heavy Falcon-Heavy. In addition, a test launch of the Dragon manned spacecraft will be carried out by the end of the year. Next year or two - more 8 LAUNCHES. From what it will carry astronauts - it's hard to say, but it will. So I'm afraid I'm absolutely right in writing that he "pulled everyone's nose." The jerk is impressive. And the first heavy with payload of about 50 tons will be this year ...

    Quote: Vikmay16
    How many more will we work for the Americans?

    Another year or two different. Then when they stop transferring money to us for the preparation and launch of their astronauts, which we use to create ships (they pay approximately 5 UNIONS и 4 PROGRESS per year) we will reduce the number of ships launched. This means that our part of the ISS crew will change less often. "All is well, beautiful marquise"
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 28 November 2017 23: 21 New
      +1
      Yes, the takeoff is normal - the surface is already visible.
    2. Nikolai Grek
      Nikolai Grek 29 November 2017 02: 54 New
      +1
      Quote: Old26
      Well, if on the topic of the article - one accident is an accident, two accidents is a coincidence, well, and three accidents is a regularity. So consider for yourself how many of them there were then these accidents.
      Fortunately, the statistics of launches of Soyuz-2-1a and Soyuz-2-1B are somewhat different.

      he himself did not count, but simply blurted out !!! laughing laughing laughing
      Quote: Old26
      You know, about 10 years ago they mocked him, said that he would never launch anything at all. I launched it. Moreover, to date, there have been 44 launches (since 2010). Until 2021 (this is another 4 years) - another 66 launches, among them 5 heavy Falcon-Heavy.

      let's see if he will reach those times !!!! wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
      The fall of Elon Musk began: the media finally calculated his losses
      https://ria.ru/analytics/20171107/1508279232.html
      Quote: Old26
      The jerk is impressive.

      all thanks to the state !!! no personal merit of the hunker !! wink yes laughing laughing laughing
  24. chidoryan
    chidoryan 29 November 2017 07: 55 New
    +2
    Quote: Jedi
    For someone, a second successful launch does not at all become an excuse for stopping whining.

    YAYAYAYAYAYA
  25. Old26
    Old26 29 November 2017 11: 07 New
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    Quote: Nikolai Grek
    let's see if he will reach those times !!!! wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
    The fall of Elon Musk began: the media finally calculated his losses
    https://ria.ru/analytics/20171107/1508279232.html

    Losses in which segment? Electric vehicles - quite possibly. I do not follow this. But in the space field, he’s afraid he will crush under him most of the launch segment. When you withdraw relatively 10 tons for 80 million, and he will withdraw the same 10 tons for 50, from whom will they buy seats? As for whether it survives or not, it will survive.

    Quote: Nikolai Grek
    all thanks to the state !!! no personal merit of the hunker !!

    Yes, in general, do not care, with the help of the state or not. Even with the help of the state, we have more failures in the space industry than victories.
  26. _Jack_
    _Jack_ 29 November 2017 13: 09 New
    0
    this is already becoming a tradition - again all the satellites are lost
  27. Old26
    Old26 29 November 2017 21: 30 New
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    Quote: mordvin xnumx
    Quote: Nikolai Grek
    What is the date when the launch failed in 2017 !!!

    Yesterday it was. sad

    For comrade Nikolai Grek. the date you still will not be called, so do not flatter yourself especially. I can only say that from 73-x There were only three emergency launches of the 14A14 launch vehicle (also known as Soyuz-2-1A / B in various versions, that is, with and without an accelerating unit). Specifically, the 2-1B variant had an accident in December 2011. that is, almost 6 years ago. Then the Meredian-5 satellite (or 12L) was lost. Lost again due to the Fregat-M acceleration unit, which did not work on the second engine start. Both in the first and second cases the carriers themselves worked out normally

    Quote: _Jack_
    this is already becoming a tradition - again all the satellites are lost

    All questions to the manufacturer of the Frigate-M booster block