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"You will torture dust to swallow": and after all Putin warned

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This year, 2017, 15 has turned one of the most famous and colorful sayings of Vladimir Putin relating to the initial period of his presidential activities.

“You will torture the dust to swallow” is a little less known than his famous “drenching in the toilet”, said as Prime Minister in 1999 year. However, if the context of the second comment - the fight against terrorism - is still obvious to everyone today, then Putin spoke of the “dust” in this connection, it has already been forgotten by many. In the meantime, his then words in their own way are even more remarkable - and it is worth recalling about them.

In the summer of 2002, the Russian president took part in the work of the IV Congress of the Russian Chamber of Commerce and Industry. There, he tried to convey to the representatives of the domestic business the simple idea that the capital exported from Russia was not safe abroad. On the contrary, there is a great threat of freezing them and, accordingly, a loss of control over them by the owners. Putin finished with an emotional commentary: "You will exhaust the dust to swallow, running around the courts to unblock them!"

This was, apparently, the very first time that the president raised this topic. Then the business of this frankly did not appreciate. Putin’s speech for quite a long time was accompanied by ironic comments by Russian businessmen and the business press.

Those were the times of a weak Russian state, not yet recovered after the 1990-s, and the optimistic faithless belief of the majority (even very experienced and cynical people) in the iridescence of life in the West, in the absolute rights and freedoms of the people there, unconditional security of property there.

Since then much water has flowed. The theme "do not trust the West - only Russia will provide protection for you and your capital", addressed to business, now sounds regularly with Putin, and it has long stopped laughing at it, because life itself proved the correctness of the president and his impressive insight on this issue even then 15 years ago. And he continues to prove.

The number of situations confirming Putin’s correctness is now so large and diverse that examples can be chosen to suit every taste: from Boris Berezovsky, who by the time of death was successfully ruined by his western partners, to the former banker Sergey Pugachev, sentenced by a British court to two years of imprisonment and hiding in france. The number of people who simply lost huge sums in the West (such as Dmitry Rybolovlev, who was deceived by his art dealer for almost a billion dollars), reaches many dozens. Alarmed stories of emigrants about toughening checks of banking and tax services of the origin of their funds with rather unpleasant excesses, such as freezing accounts for the period of checking, are also increasingly appearing.

Among these people there are those who position themselves as victims of the Kremlin’s tyrannical regime fleeing from the persecution of the FSB and Putin personally, and Russian businessmen who share their lives between their homeland and the West, who have sincere weakness for the English Embankment in Nice or the London tailors with Savile Row Street.
If the first group is a topic for a separate conversation, then the second ones deserve special attention today, since those who have faced problems in the West have now arrived in the regiment.

The cause of the problems of Senator Suleiman Kerimov with the French law enforcement officers is not exactly known. Most often referred to as tax evasion. According to the media version, the French authorities suggested that Kerimov was the real owner of some luxury real estate in their country, as he used it regularly, which really implies taxes, which, by the way, are among the highest in the world in France.

As a result, the senator and businessman became another clear example to all immigrants from Russia in the West that no money would give them sufficient protection. Rather, on the contrary, they can become a source of serious problems. Considering that all this история takes place before the New Year, which many wealthy people in Russia prefer to spend in Europe and, in particular, in France, undoubtedly, they have reason to think about whether they should not celebrate holidays at home.

The same question was asked by the head of the Federation Council, Valentina Matvienko, who suggested that the detention of Kerimov could be "the beginning of the hunt for representatives of our big business, even for political and government officials."

By the way, in the position of Kerimov, despite all the trouble, there is one plus: at the moment the state machine of Russia - from parliament to the Foreign Ministry - is working on his release. When a whole state stands behind you, the chances for a successful outcome still increase.

This, in turn, is a clear signal to all the other Russian large capitals that in the event of problems in the West, their homeland will not leave them without support. Unless, of course, they themselves would prefer to quit it.

Nevertheless, the whole story was just another not even a bell, but an alarm for Russian business and officials. Opportunities to sit on two chairs - to work and earn money here, and to rest, spend and keep money there - are diminishing every day.

Unambiguous choice in one direction or another becomes more inevitable. However, the choice in favor of the West means greater insecurity and a growing threat of losing everything in the end. And the choice in favor of Russia means practical patriotism. That is, patriotism, which implies the need to live, work, keep earned, rest and raise children here in the homeland.
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  1. GAF
    GAF 30 November 2017 15: 31 New
    +8
    A true patriot is one who, in order not to burden the motherland with money, takes them abroad.
    1. twviewer
      twviewer 30 November 2017 15: 47 New
      +6
      even in a cello case. By the way, remind me what our chapman intelligence in the states did there, but on the outskirts of what?
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 30 November 2017 16: 55 New
        +3
        Quote: twviewer
        even in a cello case. By the way, remind me what our chapman intelligence in the states did there, but on the outskirts of what?

        Perhaps the same as our Isaev, he is von Stirlitz?
        1. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 30 November 2017 17: 13 New
          10
          The head of the Federation Council, Valentina Matvienko, asked the same question, who suggested that Karimov’s detention could be “the beginning of a hunt for representatives of our large business, even political, state figures”

          "There is a hunt for wolves! There is a hunt!" Indeed: those who keep their stolen money abroad are wolves. Only real wolves never slaughter cattle near their den. And these "people - wolves" rob exactly where they live. Maybe the whole thing is that their "den" is not here in Russia, but in the west? They did not take into account alone that the lair of the wolf always destroyed and did not spare even the little wolf cubs. Now it looks like it is soon waiting for our "wolves" abroad. They still did not understand this, but their den was already surrounded by red flags, and the beaters set to work.
          1. maxim947
            maxim947 1 December 2017 10: 00 New
            +4
            What is this hunt? One disgrace. It looks like a statement of what happened, they begin to declare us on the wanted list when the suspect is already abroad and the money has either been taken away or spent. And it should be the other way around, the accounts were arrested, the suspect in the detention center, and then the trial, and even impartial.
            ... in the West, that no money will give them sufficient protection.
            that’s how it should be with us. Twenty years have passed, and we have senators all running abroad, with millions of odds, somehow even a little ashamed.
        2. twviewer
          twviewer 30 November 2017 17: 50 New
          0
          Quote: sabakina
          Maybe

          can't, where did you hear about the battle unequal with the Nazis, here the Kolya boys are now held in high esteem.
    2. GAF
      GAF 30 November 2017 15: 50 New
      +3
      Quote: GAF
      A true patriot is one who, in order not to burden the motherland with money, takes them abroad.

      The same comrade Berezovsky at the end of his career wrote to Putin a penitent letter promising to return to a pretty Russian girl with an empty pocket without honest hard-earned money.
    3. siberalt
      siberalt 30 November 2017 18: 01 New
      12
      The expression "you’re tormented by swallowing dust," I have known for more than half a century (in the adult version, the first word was abusive). Given that we are peers with GDP, I believe that he also used it as a child.
      And the fact that the United States will begin to degrease the offshore of our oligarchs, especially those close to Putin’s circle, you don’t need to go to the grandmother. hi
      1. dSK
        dSK 30 November 2017 21: 08 New
        +3
        Quote: siberalt
        US will start to degrease

        Hello Oleg! I have long read analytics in which the idea was expressed that many Russian oligarchs for the West, as an intermediate step to the capture of Russia. They were "helped" with privatization and created systemin which all their accounts are under full control (secret offshore companies are a myth). Gradually, Russian oligarchs will “sell” their assets to the system’s authors voluntarily - forcibly. Some of Russia's assets will be officially bought. Golden Horde 2.0intellectual, cunning - no chains, no shackles. Beautifully packaged - "democracy and freedom." hi
        1. dSK
          dSK 30 November 2017 21: 35 New
          +4
          On this topic: “London agreed with Brussels on a“ compensation ”for leaving the EU and will pay about 60 billion euros for it. Given the enormous financial losses associated with Brexit, it will not be easy to find this money, but it seems that a way out has been found: they will be taken away at the Russian “offshore aristocracy” that has chosen Britain. Author Latyshev Sergey. (The first Russian television channel Tsargrad November 30.11.2017, XNUMX.) The main conclusion of the publication is "Only the “bad” Russians, who store in offshore, allegedly up to $ 2 trillion, will suffer. The "rehearsal" in Cyprus has already taken place, all the technologies have been worked out. The "dispossession" of the Russian offshore companies by the British will make it possible to pay not only for Brexit. " hi
    4. BecmepH
      BecmepH 1 December 2017 08: 34 New
      +3
      Quote: GAF
      A true patriot is one who, in order not to burden the motherland with money, takes them abroad.

      "Every self-respecting millionaire must be a Cypriot of his homeland" (C)
  2. Sergey-svs
    Sergey-svs 30 November 2017 15: 39 New
    16
    ... The number of situations confirming Putin’s correctness is now so great and diverse that you can choose examples for every taste: ... to the former banker Sergei Pugachev, who was sentenced by a British court to two years in prison and taking refuge in France ...

    The true story of the disgraced banker: -Terran Vlad took and took everything. All acquired by overwork. Three tape recorders, three domestic cigarette cases, leather jackets .. three! lol
    Another victim of the bloody regime, already ashamedly acted like that - get on your eyes! crying

    PS In an amazing country we live. yes Earned - this is when they stole and did not get caught, but when they caught, but managed to escape abroad, it is a victim of the regime! laughing laughing laughing
  3. solzh
    solzh 30 November 2017 15: 48 New
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    Money both went abroad and leaves, and will leave.
    1. passing
      passing 30 November 2017 17: 53 New
      +3
      [quote] Russian President Vladimir Putin has promised that Russia will not impose currency restrictions or restrictions on the movement of capital, TASS reports citing a statement by the head of state at the VTB Capital forum “Russia is Calling!”
      2 October 2014 14: 47
      Yes, and there is a roof
      1. Kent0001
        Kent0001 30 November 2017 18: 19 New
        0
        And by the way, no one denies this.
  4. Antianglosax
    Antianglosax 30 November 2017 16: 11 New
    +4
    Quote: solzh
    Money both went abroad and leaves, and will leave.

    They will not, if our authorities do not want to. But while he wants to ...
  5. izya top
    izya top 30 November 2017 16: 40 New
    +2
    Yes, it is not necessary to store the earned-stolen goods, but to open the production. And then wherever you go, made in China, the Czech Republic, the Philippines ...
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 2 December 2017 13: 15 New
      +1
      Quote: iza top
      and open production. and then no matter where you go, made in China, the Czech Republic, the Philippines ...
      So it is necessary to invest. And for the most part. And the prospects for the newly opened production are unclear, it suddenly will not stand the competition, etc. In general, not an option. It is better to buy an apartment in Miami and a yacht.
  6. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 30 November 2017 17: 24 New
    +2
    I don’t understand the situation. That is not clear! Logically, it would be right to lure our bureaucrats and the rich to the West. Instead, they are forced to be in their homeland, which means they do not have to rob here, but somehow manage it humanly ...
    Has the West really decided that in response to the press, our Tolsums will replace the system, the president, etc. etc.?! Why? Our guys came from the street, and there the law is simple, bend once - they will squeeze. They will surely squeeze. What crazy person would believe that meeting Western requirements would guarantee something? All who have fulfilled the requirements are either dead or in full ... beauty.
    I didn’t understand anything, honestly.
    1. 97110
      97110 30 November 2017 21: 00 New
      +1
      Quote: Mikhail3
      I didn’t understand anything, honestly.

      Repeated not hunting. I posted several times about the fact that both Barak Huseynovich and Trump are sitting on Putin's salary. Look from this position - it all fits together. They simply execute the laws adopted here from there, by the power of the entire US state apparatus. And what do you think, from scratch, Donkey McCain shakes? As is Putin's agent figured out, but you're lying - you can’t take it - he has a roof - the White House!
    2. askme
      askme 30 November 2017 21: 34 New
      +2
      I explain: the West is the owner of the ENVIRONMENT in which the business operates. Any. And not only Russian. Wednesday is like a mother. It includes your faith, from which you enjoy life. From what you will not get anywhere, as they are saturated with MEDIA from head to toe. In this sense, businessmen are the same slaves of the business environment as those who work for them. Because they have such a mother, which requires slavish submission ... And it is precisely these strings that are pulled by those who are masters of the West, masters of the ENVIRONMENT ... They are pulled in relation to our business ...

      So the point here is not so much in money as in loss of support. Our businessmen will now have to HERE find their home, go through a tremendous breakup. Imagine, you believed for several decades in the "city on a hill", in the heaven of the West, worshiped the Golden Calf and ... then you were rudely broken off, your golden dream that a donkey had carrots was taken from you. You will be completely demoralized. You will begin to self-destruct as a person. This will affect your business, you just can not conduct it. It's like a skating rink, depression on the asphalt will smear you .... If you do not find a completely different support in yourself. What is doubtful if your faith was sincere ...

      So the Western "partners" are our invisible, masters of the West - they act quite deliberately, conditionally depriving our businessmen of their environment, destroying them psychologically, taking life out of them. The goal is to destroy Russia economically (they believe that such businessmen dominate in Russia). This is not a joke. Businessmen worshiping the Golden Calf are obsessed people, they are players. The masters of their souls own them. But they are wrong. Russian people will still defeat the Golden Calf. And among businessmen as well. Let it take time ...

      Therefore, those of our businessmen who can or have already been able to overcome the psychological pressure of a similar plan - they will be nationalized by Russia. These are very valuable people for Russia. Organizers of material production who consider Russia their home ... And the rest will turn into dust. Objectively...
  7. Odysseus
    Odysseus 30 November 2017 17: 30 New
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    The story with Kerimov is remarkable from beginning to end. And the fact that this "effective owner" was of course a "statesman", and the fact that France (France, Karl!) Put with the device on his "inviolability" and diplomatic passport, and that this "statesman" was detained for tax evasion not in Russia, but abroad where this "patriot" bought up real estate. Well, and a cherry on the cake, the determination with which the whole vertical of the Russian government began to save the unfortunate oligarch, "we don’t give up" .
    As the saying goes, this story is all you wanted to know about modern Russia, but you were afraid to ask.
    PS One can only imagine what this important “secret bearer” will tell (he knows exactly where the cash flows are and who has the money where) in the framework of cooperation with the French investigation.
    1. andrej-shironov
      andrej-shironov 30 November 2017 18: 13 New
      10
      smile Odysseus, plus. Hand washes a hand. And how Matvienka votes ....
  8. Overlock
    Overlock 30 November 2017 17: 53 New
    +1
    Quote: Odyssey
    just imagine what this important "secret bearer" will tell

    everything, even that which he did not know, but remembered. Loot is sweetest
  9. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 30 November 2017 18: 10 New
    +1
    Yeah, 15 years have passed, and things are still there. Faster would be chtoli of these same Russian representatives of big business caught there in the West! One declaration and zero action.
    1. Kent0001
      Kent0001 30 November 2017 18: 22 New
      +5
      Well, let the authorities restrain them, though ... if ours cannot ...
  10. Astapan
    Astapan 30 November 2017 19: 38 New
    +2
    The number is peoplewho simply lost enormous sums in the West (like Dmitry Rybolovlev, who was deceived by his art dealer for almost a billion dollars), reaches many tens.
    Of people ???
  11. ibirus
    ibirus 30 November 2017 19: 41 New
    +1
    For fools, this is not a bell. They will turn a blind eye to Western lawlessness and squeak freedom and legality there and the "Mordor and Orcs" here, while they are sheared like sheep. Madmen cannot be fixed.
  12. polpot
    polpot 30 November 2017 19: 46 New
    +8
    Well, these characters don’t understand how strange they are for Western elites, they’ll be taken away in any case with Putin without Putin, they don’t need the ballast there, they need to be pulled out and thrown out, it was always the West that didn’t take Nikolay 2 with his family and I won’t be surprised that Sverdlov was paid extra for their murder, they robbed the Empress Dowager Empress Nicholas 2 by grinding her jewels, the British misappropriated Menshchikov’s money in the 18th century, live at home, you are strangers there, just sheep for a haircut.
    1. Reserve officer
      Reserve officer 30 November 2017 21: 33 New
      +3
      Right. These, so to say businessmen, need to read books. And to know how Ostap Bender tried to transfer his million to capitalism across the Romanian border.
  13. Yugra
    Yugra 30 November 2017 21: 48 New
    +1
    Let them lose, let them be arrested. They stole it, they took it to London, and thought that everything, laf? No, get the bills ...
  14. seacap
    seacap 30 November 2017 21: 58 New
    0
    Quote: SRC P-15
    The head of the Federation Council, Valentina Matvienko, asked the same question, who suggested that Karimov’s detention could be “the beginning of a hunt for representatives of our large business, even political, state figures”

    "There is a hunt for wolves! There is a hunt!" Indeed: those who keep their stolen money abroad are wolves. Only real wolves never slaughter cattle near their den. And these "people - wolves" rob exactly where they live. Maybe the whole thing is that their "den" is not here in Russia, but in the west? They did not take into account alone that the lair of the wolf always destroyed and did not spare even the little wolf cubs. Now it looks like it is soon waiting for our "wolves" abroad. They still did not understand this, but their den was already surrounded by red flags, and the beaters set to work.

    the late grandfather Brzezinski said this, though malicious and evil, but smart and practical, a great patriot of his country, a real elite, and not just our corrupt ghouls. He said that if it’s your elite, if they buy real estate here, money is kept here, children are taught here, do their relatives themselves live here?
  15. iouris
    iouris 30 November 2017 22: 17 New
    0
    USA is an offshore. So the money is not your own, but popular. They could take a chance.
  16. komvap
    komvap 30 November 2017 22: 29 New
    +7
    It is not clear - why does the West need the demolition of the "Putin regime"?

    "Putin regime" captures global markets for high-value products? No.
    "Putin regime" dictates energy prices? No.
    "Putin regime" owns the world's printing press? No.
    Maybe the "Putin regime" launched integration processes in the post-Soviet space? No.

    Yes, the West prays for the "Putin regime", and masturbates secretly. This is his, West, creature.
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 2 December 2017 13: 22 New
      +1
      I agree. After all the sanctions, threats and insults from Western politicians, the political elite of the Russian Federation continues to babble about "interaction with Western partners", about mythical investments, raising the investment climate and other nonsense. And the "business elite" of the country, meanwhile, continues to buy real estate in Europe and the United States. Looks like they believe that the possible problems with the arrest of their savings in the West are, nevertheless, the lesser of evils in comparison with leaving capital in Russia.
  17. Alex66
    Alex66 1 December 2017 07: 37 New
    0
    Well, at least France began to fight our corruption, although it is clear that our corruption does not concern them with their own interests. Maybe even now our elite will stop calling them partners.
    1. komvap
      komvap 1 December 2017 10: 50 New
      +3
      Quote: Alex66
      Well, at least France began to fight our corruption, although it is clear that our corruption does not concern them with their own interests.

      They have a simple, farm interest - the hog has grown, it's time to score.
      Oleg Nasobin in the FB, specifically for France, according to real estate tax schemes for the simple-minded RF oligarchs, this question was described in sufficient detail just a couple of weeks before the Kerim story, and very accurately.
  18. Awaz
    Awaz 1 December 2017 19: 46 New
    +1
    in the vast majority of characters, like Karimov, the loot is hardly his property in full. Most likely he is simply managing someone else's money, moreover, the money of Western large corporations. These are people who were engaged and continue to be engaged in plundering all that was and is in the USSR and Russia. What is happening is a classic degreasing of customers who forgot where they came from by their owners. Berezovsky generally there is the most striking example.
    Therefore, we do not need to worry about them. These are people who have long sold their homeland. And the fact that the authorities of such people are trying to save and are not trying to save ordinary men sitting in US camps on far-fetched charges and shows how much power we have in our country
    1. komvap
      komvap 2 December 2017 02: 02 New
      0
      Quote: AwaZ
      Therefore, we do not need to worry about them.

      Funny ... Someone is worried about them?
    2. Greenwood
      Greenwood 2 December 2017 13: 24 New
      +1
      Quote: AwaZ
      how much power is "people's"
      She had never been since perestroika herself. I don’t understand how anyone else goes to the polls to vote for this.
  19. bratchanin3
    bratchanin3 3 December 2017 09: 08 New
    +1
    I think Russia is in vain embroiled in defense of Western-tolerant businessmen. Putin warned them more than once, so let them get out themselves. The Skrynnik should still be screwed up.