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Ukroboronprom modernized BMP-60 developed in the 1's

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The State Enterprise "Zhytomyr Armored Plant" (part of the Ukroboronprom Group of Companies) completed a thorough modernization and production tests of the BMP-1UMD.


The BMP-XNUMHUMD successfully completed all the running, fire and other operational tests, confirming its high performance, which greatly expanded the combat capabilities of the BMP
- Said in "Ukroboronprom".

Ukroboronprom modernized BMP-60 developed in the 1's


It is noted that the deeply modernized BMP-1 is equipped with a "modern combat module", a digital fire control system, the German Deutz engine. On the BMP, they installed an 30-mm automatic gun, an 30-mm automatic grenade launcher, a 7,62-mm machine gun and the Barrier anti-tank complex.

It is alleged that due to this BMP-1 can destroy Tanks at a distance of up to 5 km. The accuracy of the Track-M complex and the stabilizer SVU-500-3C are responsible for the accuracy of the fire.

The protection is supplemented with work on masking the BMP-XNUMHUMD in the infrared range - the car, according to the concern, became less visible through the thermal imager.

The weight of the BMP-1UMD is 14 tons - by 1 a ton more than that of the usual BMP-1, the concern notes. The engine has power in 330 hp, power can be increased to 390 hp The former engine, said in "Ukroboronprom", power was HP 300.

Note that the BMP-1 was developed in the USSR in the 1960, and put into service in the 1966 year. Serially produced by 1979 year. In December, it was reported about testing in Ukraine BMP-1 with a new digital fire control system "Hunter".

Photos used:
ukroboronprom.com.ua
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  1. Equalized
    Equalized 27 November 2017 19: 35
    +5
    SUU "Track-M", it seems, was taken from the BTR-4.

    http://www.chezara.com/cont/prod/special_prod/btr
    /treck_m.php

    1. oleg-gr
      oleg-gr 27 November 2017 19: 37
      15
      Develop a "defense" on the outskirts. The Craftsmen modernized the development of the 60s and it became super modern. It’s ridiculous.
      1. bouncyhunter
        bouncyhunter 27 November 2017 19: 42
        12
        hi
        The State Enterprise "Zhytomyr Armored Plant" (part of the Ukroboronprom Group of Companies) completed a thorough modernization and production tests of the BMP-1UMD.

        If the pots this time also turned out to be a shushpanzer - I won’t be surprised. Not a word about the number of upgraded infantry fighting vehicles. What, a single instance for begging money to fight the "achressor"?
        1. sabakina
          sabakina 27 November 2017 19: 44
          11
          Pashka, pryuvet! BMP destroys a tank from 5 km. Aren't they rolling too much?
          1. bouncyhunter
            bouncyhunter 27 November 2017 19: 52
            +9
            Hello, hello! hi
            Quote: sabakina
            BMP destroys a tank from 5 km. Aren't they rolling too much?

            So ce dill - tryndet not get used to them.
            1. Kunica
              Kunica 27 November 2017 22: 06
              +4
              Really destroys T 34-76 standing in a park on a pedestal lol
          2. kapitan92
            kapitan92 27 November 2017 20: 38
            20
            Quote: sabakina
            BMP destroys a tank from 5 km. Aren't they rolling too much?

            ATGM R-2 is common as for anti-tank systems "Skiff", hand-carried so and for the ATGM "Barrier", which is part of the uninhabited combat module KBA-105 "Flurry", installed on BMP and armored personnel carriers.
            Long-range ATGM "Skiff", developed by GKKB "Luch", created to defeat armored targets at ranges of 100-5000 m. ATGM “Skif” uses ATGM R-2 with a tandem cumulative warhead. The length of the rocket is 1,27 m, the length of the TPK with ATGM is 1,36 m, the weight of the TPK with ATGM is 16 kg. Armor penetration of anti-tank missiles ATGM R-2 is 800 mm behind a single-layer DZ.
          3. poquello
            poquello 27 November 2017 22: 14
            +6
            Quote: sabakina
            Pashka, pryuvet! BMP destroys a tank from 5 km. Aren't they rolling too much?

            )))))))))) I do not see any contradictions - the Ukrainian BMP destroys the Ukrainian tank from 5 km
            )))))))))))))))
        2. Logall
          Logall 27 November 2017 19: 56
          11
          Hello Pasha!
          The fact of the matter is that everything modernized is piece by piece! Maybe it turned out well, but not enough.
          1. bouncyhunter
            bouncyhunter 27 November 2017 20: 00
            +4
            Hello, Sanya! hi
            Quote: Logall
            Maybe it turned out well

            So I think so - well, the Pepelians cannot sculpt forever?
            Quote: Logall
            but not enough.

            As I wrote above - I suspect that a single instance.
            1. alexmach
              alexmach 27 November 2017 23: 02
              +2
              If you watched a video, you would see at least a few copies on it.
          2. sabakina
            sabakina 27 November 2017 20: 02
            +5
            Sanya, prYuvetik! What struck me .... Cleanliness in the workshop. No devastation, or anything like that. As if he got into the USSR. Is it exactly the Zhytomyr armored?
            1. penal battalion
              penal battalion 27 November 2017 20: 28
              10
              For 1 minute shooting - the workshop marafeti month.
              What did they not show the whole plant?
              Yes, there is nothing to show: an artel on a workshop scale .....
              Resell BMP-shki afro-banana republic ...
            2. Logall
              Logall 27 November 2017 20: 31
              11
              Hello, hello! This is the Secret Laboratory of Ukrainian developments! U.Kr-nano, but there are enough chubais ...
          3. poquello
            poquello 27 November 2017 22: 24
            +2
            Quote: Logall
            Maybe it turned out well,

            I do not believe, as well as the time of the super completion of A.M. “Zaporozhets” did pass, it was cool, funny, sometimes effective, but time was running out, but there is some casuistry in the pitch and one can always say that modernization of the tachanka with its dangers and poplar rocket significantly increased the firepower of this tachanka
            1. captain
              captain 28 November 2017 09: 06
              +4
              Quote: poquello
              Quote: Logall
              Maybe it turned out well,

              I do not believe, as well as the time of the super completion of A.M. “Zaporozhets” did pass, it was cool, funny, sometimes effective, but time was running out, but there is some casuistry in the pitch and one can always say that modernization of the tachanka with its dangers and poplar rocket significantly increased the firepower of this tachanka

              For the "comedians" on VO. In Russia, BMP-1 is also being modernized. They put the Berezhok combat module on it and is practically no different from Ukrainian modernization. Ukrainians are far from fools, as quite a few are trying to show here.
              1. poquello
                poquello 28 November 2017 19: 23
                0
                Quote: captain
                Quote: poquello
                Quote: Logall
                Maybe it turned out well,

                I do not believe, as well as the time of the super completion of A.M. “Zaporozhets” did pass, it was cool, funny, sometimes effective, but time was running out, but there is some casuistry in the pitch and one can always say that modernization of the tachanka with its dangers and poplar rocket significantly increased the firepower of this tachanka

                For the "comedians" on VO. In Russia, BMP-1 is also being modernized. They put the Berezhok combat module on it and is practically no different from Ukrainian modernization. Ukrainians are far from fools, as quite a few are trying to show here.

                and sho? One can always say that the berezhka significantly increased the combat power of this cart, did it work well in comparison with what?
      2. 210ox
        210ox 27 November 2017 19: 45
        24
        They’re doing what they can. And this BMP will ride and shoot. So there’s nothing to be malicious; they’re using everything they can
        Quote: oleg-gr
        Develop a "defense" on the outskirts. The Craftsmen modernized the development of the 60s and it became super modern. It’s ridiculous.
        1. sabakina
          sabakina 27 November 2017 19: 52
          +5
          Dmitry, I understand that they make candy out of Aries. But, even with such fluff, can an infantry fighting vehicle take apart a tank?
          1. 210ox
            210ox 27 November 2017 19: 56
            +5
            Glory, if they are lucky as the barbarians in Iraq almost come right up to the tank, then they can take ATGMs and
            Quote: sabakina
            Dmitry, I understand that they make candy out of Aries. But, even with such fluff, can an infantry fighting vehicle take apart a tank?
            1. sabakina
              sabakina 27 November 2017 19: 58
              +5
              Dima, which I’m talking about, and they are 5 km, 5 km .... They have completely lost their conscience on the enemies.
              1. penal battalion
                penal battalion 27 November 2017 20: 43
                11
                So this commercial was made for the "desert leaders and their" advanced "warriors."
                The chance to survive these armored vehicles on the battlefield in the Donbass is negligible.
                Either they will burn it, or it will be thrown by its ukrozadym crew ......
              2. alexmach
                alexmach 27 November 2017 23: 09
                +2
                In your ATGM 5 km does not fly?
                1. Graz
                  Graz 28 November 2017 05: 01
                  0
                  Why Ukrainians then beg for the Javelins from the Yankees?
                  then the locals don’t fly at 2km, Javelin’s like 2.5km range
                  1. alexmach
                    alexmach 28 November 2017 09: 45
                    +5
                    Well of course they don’t fly. Russian Cornets fly, but Ukrainian Cornets - no way. It doesn’t care that they are made on the same technologies 40 years ago, on the same components, by people with a similar education and who once worked in the same military-industrial complex.
                    Begging because it is necessary to beg for something. There are problems on both sides in the lack of saturation of the anti-tank systems. The Ukrainian side is slowly solving this problem.

                    Generally striking is the level of comments on VO. No need to think, no reason to analyze and analyze, even what is written is not necessary to read. It is only necessary to “Urya-aaaa” shout and louder, more patriotic.
                    1. poquello
                      poquello 28 November 2017 19: 34
                      0
                      Quote: alexmach
                      Russian Cornets fly, but Ukrainian Cornets - no way. It doesn’t care that they are made on the same technologies 40 years ago, on the same components, by people with a similar education and who once worked in the same military-industrial complex.

                      walk to the tub with hoops! three years ago they didn’t fly exactly
                  2. poquello
                    poquello 28 November 2017 19: 32
                    0
                    Quote: Graz
                    Why Ukrainians then beg for the Javelins from the Yankees?
                    then the locals don’t fly at 2km, Javelin’s like 2.5km range

                    "alien, freebie, take, take"
          2. Separ DNR
            Separ DNR 28 November 2017 09: 28
            +5
            Quote: sabakina
            I understand that they make candy out of ram. But, even with such fluff, can an infantry fighting vehicle take apart a tank?

            BMP has other tasks.
            And whether the “sweetie” turned out, we will know in our own skin.
            EVEN, if something dill turned out “wrong”, then these BMPs at least passed factory service.
            And we are left with the dead clutter, both squeezed from dill, and obtained by the “Voyentorg”.
            And now, if at 14m-15m we were not inferior in terms of technology and its state of the Armed Forces, now ...

            Oh, it will be hard for us ...
        2. Ami du peuple
          Ami du peuple 27 November 2017 20: 00
          +2
          Quote: 210ox
          Use all that is possible
          Fortunately, the Soviet armored vehicles were richly left on Ukrainian BHVT buildings (because they removed everything for sale and repairs during the period of independence). It was just right to massively distribute the titles of "corps general" to Ukrainian military commanders.
          1. Separ DNR
            Separ DNR 28 November 2017 09: 46
            +3
            Quote: Ami du peuple
            Fortunately, the Soviet armored vehicles were richly left on Ukrainian BHVT buildings (because they removed everything for sale and repairs during the period of independence).

            Fortunately, but not for everyone. Read my comment above.
        3. kapitan92
          kapitan92 27 November 2017 20: 26
          14
          Quote: 210ox
          They do what they can. And this BMP will ride and shoot.

          And kill! If tactically competently using this “know-how” on the battlefield, this “miracle” can cause significant trouble.
          Powerful module: 30 mm gun, AGS, ATGM, PC. Mobility is provided by a powerful Deutz diesel, a reliable Soviet chassis. In a word - blinded from what was.
          Quote: 210ox
          So there’s nothing to be malicious.

          You're right! What sharpening the lasses. At the armored factories of the outskirts, there are normal, competent specialists who have acquired the skills and ability to work in the USSR. hi
      3. Piramidon
        Piramidon 27 November 2017 20: 13
        +2
        Quote: oleg-gr
        Develop a "defense" on the outskirts. The Craftsmen modernized the development of the 60s and it became super modern. It’s ridiculous.

        Why "Ha Ha?" After all, it is clearly said that “a 30-mm automatic cannon, a 30-mm automatic grenade launcher, a 7,62-mm machine gun and the Barrier anti-tank system were installed on the BMP. It is alleged that thanks to this, the BMP-1 can destroy tanks at a distance of up to 5 km . "
        Fso. time to give up.

        Of course, I understand that 30 mm for a tank is a complete drindren, but at the expense of 5 km, they are somewhat bent. If you said that 3 km, I would believe. laughing wassat lol
        1. prosto_rgb
          prosto_rgb 27 November 2017 20: 32
          +3
          Quote: Piramidon
          Of course, I understand that 30 mm for a tank is a complete drindren, but at the expense of 5 km, they are somewhat bent. If you said that 3 km, I would believe.

          5km is for ATGMs.
          Those that they are now armed with and fly.
          True, there are guidance blocks that allow you to work up to 8 km, but the land and 5 km in a straight line is not so easy to find.
          1. Piramidon
            Piramidon 27 November 2017 20: 45
            +2
            Quote: prosto_rgb
            5km is for ATGMs.

            Damn, I'm sorry. "Barrier" I didn’t notice.
            1. The leader of the Redskins
              The leader of the Redskins 27 November 2017 23: 02
              +4
              By the way, in vain do you scold ... During the tests of the BMP-2, after the shelling of the T-55 tank, the barrel was shot through, which led to the completely impossible process of firing from it ...
          2. poquello
            poquello 27 November 2017 23: 23
            +1
            Quote: prosto_rgb
            True, there are guidance blocks allowing you to work up to 8 km, n

            is it about dill?
      4. Orionvit
        Orionvit 27 November 2017 21: 11
        0
        Quote: oleg-gr
        "Craftsmen" modernized the development of the 60s and it became super modern

        And a ton heavier. Interestingly, it will at least swim?
      5. alexmach
        alexmach 27 November 2017 23: 00
        +4
        Is that really funny? Work with what is. It would not hurt Russia either.
      6. Kent0001
        Kent0001 27 November 2017 23: 15
        +2
        Another dill in Ukraine. And where is lustration, why is a machine from the times of the USSR used? And this is a complete zrada zrada.
      7. Alekseev
        Alekseev 28 November 2017 06: 54
        +2
        Quote: oleg-gr
        "Craftsmen" modernized the development of the 60s and it became

        The question is not about the availability of "craftsmen"; it is not difficult to put new weapons on a good base.
        The price-quality ratio is important.
        For example, a Deutz engine will most likely be more expensive than the native UTD-20 (this Barnaul engine was even produced in Ukraine, but it was all over).
        The quality of other components, too, can not say anything.
        So, the next cat in the bag: the components did not pass, unlike the progenitor of the BMP-1, not only a battle test, but also comprehensive military tests, the price is unknown ...
        It is unclear whether the car is being pumped, or there is some kind of progress in upgrading the BTT.
      8. Dr_engie
        Dr_engie 28 November 2017 07: 39
        +1
        Yeah, and when the Belarusian craftsmen sculpted a fake from the BRDM, they all shouted, they say well done.
        You already decide whether to do so badly or not)
      9. antivirus
        antivirus 28 November 2017 08: 06
        0
        the content of the defense is expensive and rarely used. They poked Russia - gobble, they invested everything in the military, there is no normal life.
        Here is the moment of truth: stools with fat, we are in tanks.
        SOMETHING SHOULD PAY FOR YOUR CHOICE. POSSIBLE AND LIFE. fat in the coffin reported. in addition to tattered boots
    2. svp67
      svp67 27 November 2017 20: 26
      +2
      Quote: Equalized
      SUU "Track-M", it seems, was taken from the BTR-4.

      All this is good, but all this is a VERY temporary measure. Since BMPs have been released VERY long ago and how you don’t repair them and do not upgrade them, but the fatigue of the metal of the hull will be more and more affected. So that this modernization will not save the APU from the need for rearmament.
      1. Sofa General
        Sofa General 27 November 2017 21: 43
        +1
        You don’t tell them about metal fatigue, or God forbid, they’ll think of shooting annealing :) immediately the whole product :)
        1. svp67
          svp67 28 November 2017 03: 39
          +1
          Quote: Sofa General
          You don’t tell them about metal fatigue, or God forbid, they’ll think of shooting annealing :) immediately the whole product :)

          Armor? Annealing? Yes, let them take it off. The easier it will be to break through
      2. shahor
        shahor 27 November 2017 23: 15
        +1
        What about the ancient 72s and 80s?
        1. svp67
          svp67 28 November 2017 03: 39
          +1
          Quote: shahor
          What about the ancient 72s and 80s?

          For all their "antiquity", they are still more "young"
    3. siberalt
      siberalt 27 November 2017 20: 34
      0
      It is interesting whether such an approach will reach the ATO zone on its own? winked
    4. Sharikov Polygraph Poligrafovich
      Sharikov Polygraph Poligrafovich 28 November 2017 06: 01
      0
      Then the same enchanting zilch is guaranteed to be provided :-)))
      After all, everyone has long known that from this Bucephalus it’s impossible to get at least somewhere exactly, in principle :-)))))
      Those. from the word at all.
  2. Herculesic
    Herculesic 27 November 2017 19: 37
    +1
    When in the army of ukroins there will appear a primordially ukroinsky transport-chaise ?? lol
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 27 November 2017 20: 24
      +1
      Quote: Herkulesich
      When in the army of ukroins there will appear a primordially ukroinsky transport-chaise ?? lol

      It is called a tachanka.
  3. Elena Zakharova
    Elena Zakharova 27 November 2017 19: 37
    +6
    Again dill weird ...
    Personally, it’s even funny for me to analyze the possible combat potential of this old woman with a Mercedes engine ...
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 27 November 2017 19: 43
      18
      Why? It’s quite a level of the same Berezhka - for 30 is stabilized, TPV + several ATGMs.

      In general - the platform now does not play a special role (if it meets the requirements) = the main filling. Here's an example of an old BMP-1 - which Berezhok is doing at the expense of Spikes wink
      1. Elena Zakharova
        Elena Zakharova 27 November 2017 20: 05
        +8
        In vain you are so frivolous about the platform, putting the stuffing at the forefront ....
        It glows red, in all spectra and at all frequencies ...
        1. prosto_rgb
          prosto_rgb 27 November 2017 20: 25
          +2
          Quote: Elena Zakharova
          In vain you are so frivolous about the platform, putting the stuffing at the forefront ....
          It glows red, in all spectra and at all frequencies ...

          All the pieces of iron glow when the engine runs
          1. Elena Zakharova
            Elena Zakharova 27 November 2017 21: 57
            +6
            Quote: prosto_rgb
            All the pieces of iron glow when the engine runs

            Old platforms are bigger, new ones are much smaller.
            This is the salt.
            1. prosto_rgb
              prosto_rgb 27 November 2017 22: 44
              +1
              Quote: Elena Zakharova
              Quote: prosto_rgb
              All the pieces of iron glow when the engine runs

              Old platforms are bigger, new ones are much smaller.
              This is the salt.

              If in the parking lot to use correctly bolted APU - then there is no special difference
              and on the march, the radiation from the new ones is not so small that their modern thermal imagers would not see.
      2. poquello
        poquello 27 November 2017 22: 34
        +2
        Quote: donavi49
        Here's an example of an old BMP-1 - which Berezhok is doing at the expense of Spikes

        and then carefully looked at the shore? there are six cans for making spikes
  4. Herculesic
    Herculesic 27 November 2017 19: 38
    +2
    It will not get worse from engine change! fool
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 27 November 2017 19: 45
      17
      Any technique is on. Changing the combat module has seriously improved the fighting qualities of a penny. It is worth starting from this.
      1. prior
        prior 27 November 2017 20: 33
        +1
        Painted is not patriotic.
        The color should be either yellow-black, or chervon-black.
        In the "pixels" does not roll.
      2. Orionvit
        Orionvit 27 November 2017 22: 29
        +1
        Quote: donavi49
        Changing the combat module has seriously improved the fighting qualities of a penny.

        First to first, you need to change the crew. The normal crew, and on the old woman "penny" is doing everything.
  5. LAWNER
    LAWNER 27 November 2017 19: 39
    +2
    Given the collapse of the defense industry in Ukraine, this is real progress.
  6. Wolka
    Wolka 27 November 2017 19: 40
    +4
    yet another desire of the Khokhlyat defense industry to wishful thinking ...
  7. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 27 November 2017 19: 42
    +4
    Even if the dvigun of this BMP is German, then where will they take spare parts in case of breakdown. Everything happens in the war, or it is all one-time action. Where money will be taken for remaking the BMP. Nobody will give units to the banderlogs.
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 27 November 2017 19: 55
      +2
      Export. True, there are sickly restrictions
    2. Graz
      Graz 28 November 2017 05: 30
      0
      yes they are rogues, they’ll buy a lot of these dviguns, God forbid if they scraped another 10
  8. polpot
    polpot 27 November 2017 19: 42
    +1
    Of course, an interesting thought can still be modernized with the BTR 152 or BRDM, and even somewhere on the planet that are armed with T 34s, they can also be modernized and there will be wonderful mixes for MODERN Russian anti-tank systems
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 27 November 2017 19: 52
      +8
      Well, they do. It was an old BMP - it became new. In Algeria, so updated. Now the RF Ministry of Defense has found money. The only question is the kit. Romanians have 30 + TPV + Spikes of the 3 generation. The hero of the news has 30ka + TPV + its own 2 generations are slightly better than the Bassoon. The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation / Algeria has 30ka + TPV + Cornets.
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 27 November 2017 20: 15
        0
        This is the modernization of the BPM-2 "Berezhok" ... and our modernization of the BMP-1 looks the same as the Ukrainian one - 4 ATGM-Cornet on the one hand and 30mm 2A72 in caracas for better accuracy ...
      2. Lopatov
        Lopatov 27 November 2017 20: 32
        +2
        Quote: donavi49
        + their birds 2 generations are slightly better than the bassoon.

        Much better than the Bassoon. According to the control system at the level of "Cornet" and other Russian with laser beam control. But the rocket itself was a little disappointing.
    2. IL-18
      IL-18 27 November 2017 19: 59
      +3
      Well, for the sake of objectivity, Russian anti-tank systems are targets for this BMP. Another question is what the numerical indicators of this modernization will be.
      1. polpot
        polpot 27 November 2017 20: 06
        0
        Wait and see
    3. shahor
      shahor 27 November 2017 23: 20
      0
      Which ones, for example?
  9. Equalized
    Equalized 27 November 2017 19: 55
    15
    In the comments, as always, bile and ravings. Why is the BMP-1 worse than the BMP-2 other than the combat module? (in terms of security)
    Nothing. Ukraine has hundreds of these BMP-1, they are trying to make up for the loss of 2014-2015 by saturating the BMP-1 troops from conservation. And the BMP-1 combat module with 73mm "Thunder" does not really meet modern requirements. So we decided to remake the BMP-1 in the BMP-2 with its own module. What is this about? for such a poor country like Ukraine this is the most normal solution. Even the wealthy Poles ride the Naked (!!) BMP-1 without modernization, despite the fact that they have modern armored vehicles.

    The only question is whether they can re-equip a sufficient number of cars, because there is little money.
    1. Equalized
      Equalized 27 November 2017 19: 58
      +4
      For example, an entire BMP-1 battalion appeared in the 128th brigade immediately after the defeat in Debaltseve, where they lost a lot of BMP-2.

      1. polpot
        polpot 27 November 2017 20: 04
        +5
        Thanks for the photo burns this junk is wonderful and when with punishers is even better
    2. bouncyhunter
      bouncyhunter 27 November 2017 20: 04
      +3
      hi Yes, everyone is not mocking the BMP-1, but over the pots! Which even a good technique can turn into crap. BMP-1 is a great car, read a little higher that donavi49 wrote about the upgrade.
      1. Aimpoint
        Aimpoint 27 November 2017 20: 12
        0
        If the pans still read this, and even they are not allowed to produce such bmp (they are pans =)
    3. Lopatov
      Lopatov 27 November 2017 21: 01
      +2
      Quote: Equalized
      for such a poor country like Ukraine this is the most normal solution.

      A German engine for a poor country is not a particularly adequate solution.
      Plus, the Bundestag has one very unpleasant property - it can jump up sharply, and deliveries will stop. They even compost Turkey’s brains, by the way, the NATO ally. Not to mention any Azerbaijan.
    4. Ratmir_Ryazan
      Ratmir_Ryazan 27 November 2017 22: 35
      +3
      The Poles may simply not want to spend money on upgrading the BMP-1 of which they have more than a thousand units, they ordered almost as many new modern armored personnel carriers - Patria ...
  10. sir_obs
    sir_obs 27 November 2017 19: 57
    +1
    Who do they have. Are you buying garbage cans for upgrades?
  11. Vitas
    Vitas 27 November 2017 19: 58
    +9
    If the Syrians have modernized by hanging the behu with bars, then oh, what a fine fellow. If Ukrainians, then this is trash and pots. It is a completely modern complex, made according to the design schools of the USSR. Changed the combat module, engine, camouflage, why is the upgrade bad? In the conditions of lack of money and limited resources, a very good solution.
    1. polpot
      polpot 27 November 2017 20: 08
      +1
      So here like Syrians and do not praise junk will remain junk hang up screens on it or do not hang no more than a temporary measure
    2. the lord
      the lord 27 November 2017 23: 08
      +1
      In conditions of lack of money and limited resources do not fight. The same Syrians did not practically do this until the resources of the Russian Federation were connected. And you are urgently in a hurry to the other world and do not spend resources on your people, but on a way to die. Obviously, you’ll almost always lose to us on such tarantays, but still sway. No, your great-grandmothers fiddled with the Poles once in the genome you left your gonoshing))))
    3. Graz
      Graz 28 November 2017 05: 51
      +3
      you yourself are not ashamed to compare the industrialized republic of the former USSR with Syria in which tanks and combat vehicles were not built spawn?
  12. rocket757
    rocket757 27 November 2017 20: 01
    +4
    Can destroy? Can he?
    Snapped up ATGM of some sort and voila, surpassed in all its glory.
  13. Eurodav
    Eurodav 27 November 2017 20: 02
    +2
    Quote: bouncyhunter
    hi
    The State Enterprise "Zhytomyr Armored Plant" (part of the Ukroboronprom Group of Companies) completed a thorough modernization and production tests of the BMP-1UMD.

    If the pots this time also turned out to be a shushpanzer - I won’t be surprised. Not a word about the number of upgraded infantry fighting vehicles. What, a single instance for begging money to fight the "achressor"?

    This is the begging of a flyer for mattresses, they say you have to restore, how can you beat off the Russian Federation at the outpost of protecting inhuman values ​​from hordes of Scythians! Well, give us the shaitan-pipeuuuuu!
  14. kefan
    kefan 27 November 2017 20: 10
    +1
    Another nonsense from ukro-media.
  15. kotik77713
    kotik77713 27 November 2017 20: 31
    +2
    Our neighbors are not yet able to produce something new. Old G. in a new package, painting at best)))
  16. KCA
    KCA 27 November 2017 20: 36
    +1
    But does he, in principle, make Deutz for military equipment of a diesel engine or for truck tractors? How does he feel in the field?
  17. cariperpaint
    cariperpaint 27 November 2017 20: 44
    +4
    quite a decent upgrade based on their capabilities. something recently comments have become quite strange with us here ... in fact, it would be time already and not from emotions to draw conclusions.
    1. the lord
      the lord 27 November 2017 23: 12
      0
      And to modernize in order to surpass a potential adversary, is it already not being considered as a method? Then for what are such strains, since all the same, everyone on the way to burn on junk and because of junk? Or in absentia suggest that Nem will not be Muscovite at the front? But it is precisely in this that surprises may turn out ...
  18. Simon
    Simon 27 November 2017 20: 48
    +1
    Quote: sabakina
    Pashka, pryuvet! BMP destroys a tank from 5 km. Aren't they rolling too much?

    Well, this is Ukraine! She has long been "the best" it creates weapons in the world, but it doesn’t help them in a war with Donetsk and Lugansk! laughing
  19. Simon
    Simon 27 November 2017 20: 55
    +1
    Installed a 30 mm automatic gun, 30 mm automatic grenade launcher --- Over 5 kilometers what The tank will be right! fool Laugh before and only! laughing
    1. Anyone
      Anyone 27 November 2017 21: 10
      +1
      ATGM forgotten.
    2. Equalized
      Equalized 27 November 2017 21: 12
      +1
      Have you read the news? there ATGM "Barrier".
      1. alexmach
        alexmach 27 November 2017 23: 24
        +5
        Well, the main thing is to settle down. Indeed, the comments on the VO have become somewhat inadequate at all.
    3. private person
      private person 27 November 2017 21: 20
      +1
      The anti-tank Barrier system, I think few people want to test it in combat conditions.
      1. poquello
        poquello 28 November 2017 00: 23
        0
        Quote: private person
        The anti-tank Barrier system, I think few people want to test it in combat conditions.

        Duc it seems to be on the armor, and bmpshniks for armor
  20. private person
    private person 27 November 2017 21: 17
    +3
    Quote: oleg-gr
    Develop a "defense" on the outskirts. The Craftsmen modernized the development of the 60s and it became super modern. It’s ridiculous.

    In vain you laugh relatively cheaply than to develop and introduce a new one, and a solid weapon set. What else is needed? Just don’t say that the armor is weak.
    1. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 28 November 2017 02: 15
      +2
      Quote: private person
      In vain you laugh relatively cheaply than to develop and introduce a new one, and a solid weapon set. What else is needed? .

      Why laugh? "The economy must be economical"! Passed by! And indeed! On a fig, pennies to spend on creating a new one, when pennies can be stolen ?! And Russia also needs to learn from Ukrainians! Why was it necessary to create a T-72, and then "Armata"? Take the T-34 and upgrade! Will cost cheaper! The main thing is to get into the taste! And there you can take up the "Marks"! Most importantly, weapons are more powerful to install!
      1. private person
        private person 28 November 2017 07: 13
        +1
        Have you seen "Armata?" And Ukrainians burnt them in packs.
        1. Nikolaevich I
          Nikolaevich I 28 November 2017 08: 12
          +1
          Quote: private person
          Have you seen "Armata?" And Ukrainians burnt them in packs.

          Have you seen the Miracle of the Great Monita? wink
  21. faterdom
    faterdom 27 November 2017 21: 39
    +3
    I remember that Georgians also deeply modernized tanks throughout the civilized world with all kinds of nishtyaks. Therefore, the problem of the reinforced tank battalion of Georgians in an ambush near the Roki tunnel was solved by Iskander - it turned out to be cooler by several orders of magnitude.
    1. Equalized
      Equalized 27 November 2017 21: 41
      +1
      Sorry what?)
      Georgian tanks never approached the Roki tunnel. Even our specialists or DRG did not go that far.

      This is in what fantasies our whole battalion was ambushed?)))
      Iskander except that the square in Gori was punished when journalists were killed by cassettes
      1. faterdom
        faterdom 28 November 2017 01: 40
        +1
        And in the Oak Grove near the Guftinsky bridge, who covered? "Journalists". Yes, this is not at the tunnel itself, it is along the road from the tunnel to Tskhinval.
        1. Equalized
          Equalized 28 November 2017 12: 25
          0
          In Oak Grove, the soldiers of the 4 infantry brigade were covered, and the Su-25, and not the OTRK, covered them. And there was no tank battalion there.

          In general, Oak Grove is located above Tskhinvali itself and is very far from the tunnel. It can be said a park near the city on a hill, people go there for a picnic.
  22. tochila
    tochila 27 November 2017 22: 17
    +2
    The German engine will ruin the defense industry of Ukraine! If only for sale to someone richer!
  23. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 27 November 2017 22: 30
    0
    I wonder how the DZ contact will work on the BMP-1 armor ?! And why it is put so selectively, like that in another place it is not penetrated or something !!!
    1. Equalized
      Equalized 27 November 2017 22: 36
      +1
      This is not a contact, this is a light version of the “knife” in K-1 containers specially sawn under BMP. (The knife can be shoved into both new and old containers DZ). They shove new tanks on tanks, but sometimes containers from contact are used.

      But on the account of the work I agree. It is somehow strange to attach DZ to BMP with thin armor.
  24. alavrin
    alavrin 27 November 2017 22: 54
    0
    S t.z. the continuation of the war in the Donbass is a bad trend. They quietly rearm, and then Croatian revenge a la 1995 ...
    But they are predictable in this, they are waiting for Putin to leave. In this predictability is their weakness. However, I do not want a bloody meat grinder ...
    1. alexmach
      alexmach 27 November 2017 23: 26
      +1
      Bingo! And by the way, they have been doing this for the fourth year.
  25. medvedron
    medvedron 27 November 2017 23: 22
    +4
    The weakest point of this Beha, in my opinion, is an imported engine, it is unlikely to be adapted to Ukrainian diesel fuel. As they begin to crumble, well, nothing of ours in the DPR will be put on them by native engines. tongue
  26. akribos
    akribos 28 November 2017 01: 01
    0
    Very, very well, it turned out well.
  27. KRIK33
    KRIK33 28 November 2017 03: 33
    +1
    I alone noticed in the video that in the assembly workshop only two people are working? These are all specialists, who else remained in (in) Ukraine? smile
    1. LeonidL
      LeonidL 28 November 2017 04: 07
      +1
      These are also not specialists - they didn’t fall into the Russian Federation’s earnings.
  28. LeonidL
    LeonidL 28 November 2017 04: 06
    +1
    An old nag under a new saddle, and even that in a single copy.
  29. Zweihander
    Zweihander 28 November 2017 04: 22
    +3
    I don’t understand the commentators mocking this modernization) Yes, and the title of the article is not quite adequate - this BMP is still in service with the Russian troops, and most of them are operated without any modernization. In my BMP-1 there was a Czech-made engine and a bunch of all kinds of fillings such as lamps, fuses, etc. Polish times of the socialist camp. So I see no reason to mock as if we have one modern weapon without foreign components.
  30. sgr291158
    sgr291158 28 November 2017 05: 35
    0
    Candies are made of ram.
  31. Altona
    Altona 28 November 2017 07: 50
    0
    Quote: Logall
    The fact of the matter is that everything modernized is piece by piece! Maybe it turned out well, but not enough.

    ------------------------------------
    So I also think that the APU’s hinerals will say “why the hell did they spend a penny, requiring a better one and a cheaper one”. hi
  32. Altona
    Altona 28 November 2017 07: 52
    0
    Quote: Zweihander
    So I see no reason to mock as if we have one modern weapon without foreign components.

    ----------------------------
    They mock mainly on the piece of this machine, it is unlikely that they will be able to massively upgrade their fleet.
  33. Suhow
    Suhow 28 November 2017 23: 43
    0
    Given the economic and not only the state of my country (Ukraine), the modernization of even such an "old" BMP is already an achievement. I would have done the league normally without cracking. Well, the Merc engine is expensive in my opinion.
  34. LeonidL
    LeonidL 29 November 2017 04: 07
    0
    The ridge of an old BMP-1 woman will not stand the new seat ... However, all this is probably nothing more than an advertisement and a cut. How much will one such product of advanced Ukrainian military thought in hard currency cost? How long will the frail Ukrainian budget stand? Who will service the German diesel and new electronics? Rguli? How many days will this product of the flight of thought stretch in the Dobsk abysses in spring and autumn, in the dust of summer, in the snow in winter?