Ukroboronprom announced its readiness to produce new missiles

According to the press service of the concern "Ukroboronprom", the company "Artem", which is part of the concern, conducted a demonstration of a new technological line for the production of rocket corps. It is indicated that the new equipment will allow the production of Velkha (Alder) missile bodies.

In "Ukroboronprom" indicate that at the moment the line consisting of the rolling machine RFFM 330-138-300 manufactured by Repkon, is at the stage of commissioning. After finishing it, the company "Artem" will be able to produce high precision hollow tubes.

We are launching a technological line that will ensure the production of unique housings for our equipment. Now we can make rocket hulls from superalloys. Even in Soviet times, Ukraine had no such technologies.

- said the Secretary of the National Security Council of Ukraine Oleksandr Turchynov.

Representatives of the company "Artem" indicate that the equipment will allow to produce parts with different wall thicknesses that are needed in the production of Alder missiles, created on the basis of the Smerch multiple launch rocket system (MLRS).

According to Ukrainian developers, the key difference from the Soviet development was that the new missiles are adjustable and can hit targets with much greater accuracy. According to the description of the new missile system, it can replace the Smerch MLRS, as well as the Tochka-U tactical missile system, while demonstrating greater accuracy, reports "Warspot"

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[Dezinto]

Even in Soviet times, Ukraine did not have such technologies.

Now that's when they are so pro ... mm they say so funny)))
I suppose he remembers how he grew up in October, and then he entered the Komsomol with pride ......))))
хы хы хы

[Jedi]

Another change "for the media and the West"?

[Logall]

It's just that they are trying to distract everyone from the internal problems of Ukraine in this way! Of which every day becomes more and more ...

[bulvas]

Wasn’t it easier to agree with Donetsk and with Russia?

Or hope to solve everything by war?

Are your brains completely leaked?

[esaul]

Quote: bulvas

Are your brains completely leaked?

And they were in the skull of this one, which in the page beret is drawn in the photo?

[Slovak]

Fuck from the phrase: "Even in Soviet times, Ukraine did not have such technologies ..." For 25 years, thank God, all technologies have advanced, and these continue to recall Soviet times ... But now the shells will be heavy-duty, which will "increase accuracy hitting targets ... Ukromozb thing is very strange ..

[Reserve officer]

Have you done pyrotechnics? It's time - soon the New Year.

[Jedi]

As if these myzdobulov again fireworks did not work ahead of schedule.

[Monos]

Even in Soviet times, Ukraine did not have such technologies

What I like about these little ones is that they uncover themselves. It turns out that the Soviet era was a reference, and the Union is an advanced, technologically advanced state, and not a “backward scoop,” since you are proud to have surpassed it in something. Selyuki.

[oldzek]

I remember in Soviet times, our achievements were very very long compared with 1913. It is interesting how long their comparisons will be in the Ukraine ???

[Sergey53]

The Ministry of Finance declared NO MONEY.

[Mountain shooter]

In the rocket, in addition to the hulls, there is a lot more ... Fuel, for example ...

[Ustin]

The Ukrainian defense potential was built in the Union sufficient to solve many problems. Even now there is an opportunity to develop individual areas, all the more it is beneficial for the “curators”. Underestimating their capabilities is at least shortsighted. As much as I would not like to, but recent progress has been traced.

[Alf]

Quote: Ustin

As much as I would not like to, but recent progress has been traced.

In what?

[Ustin]

There are certain areas where you can really expect a breakthrough. The change in the "cooperant" in components has certainly greatly affected, but it is not difficult to find a replacement in the West.
Considering that for decades there were created SCHOOLS in areas (aviation, engine building, weapon systems, tank building, electronic industry) it’s difficult to “fall in love” all this. There is also a potential “enemy” - the heads were washed well for 25 years, some kind of national idea . So throwing all this off the shield is unreasonable.

[Orionvit]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

In the rocket, in addition to the hulls, there is a lot more.

I recalled an old joke:
- Allow me to introduce myself, the commander of the tank corps, Lieutenant Netrebenko.
- So young, but already the commander of the tank corps?
- Yes sir. They drank the tank, but one building remained.

[prosto_rgb]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

In the rocket, in addition to the hulls, there is a lot more ... Fuel, for example ...

fuel they have their own Pavlodar chemical plant at least
well, besides fuel, steering drives for a wide variety of missiles
as well as gos

[Alf]

Quote: prosto_rgb

Quote: Mountain Shooter

In the rocket, in addition to the hulls, there is a lot more ... Fuel, for example ...

fuel they have their own Pavlodar chemical plant at least
well, besides fuel, steering drives for a wide variety of missiles
as well as gos

Every day in Ukraine, new tanks, planes, missiles, and machine guns are shown at exhibitions in Ukraine. Except for exhibitions, nobody sees them anywhere else. As well as the money allocated for their production.

[prosto_rgb]

Quote: Alf

Every day in Ukraine, new tanks, planes, missiles, and machine guns are shown at exhibitions in Ukraine.

this is what is now developed
so generally do all over the world

Quote: Alf

from only besides exhibitions nobody sees them anywhere. As well as the money allocated for their production.

Well, the Air-to-Air missiles are quite exported and even
it's just that they don’t write about it on the site

[Ace Tambourine]

A dung !!!! Yes, how dare you !!! ???

[ded100]

Production established!

[rocket757]

Well, yes, they had steel production technology for nuclear reactors !!! and disposable products, like rockets of the type aerobatics in metallurgy

[Lena Petrova]

Obviously, this is the most necessary for the Ukrainian economy.

[rocket757]

Is this the most necessary for the extreme as such?

[NKT]

In "Ukroboronprom" indicate that at the moment the line consisting of rolling machine RFFM 330-138-300 production company ....

Initially it seemed like a lip-folding machine)

[Kerensky]

Well now enough pipes for bourgeois. And then I began to worry.

[Dimachrus]

Pastor they have - odnayaako))))
Constantly in military uniform ...
An interesting denomination, well, or by moonlighting by advertising)))))

[vredlo]

line consisting of a rolling machine RFFM 330-138-300 manufactured by Repkon
We are launching a production line that will ensure the production of unique cases for our equipment.
the technology based on a device of foreign development is unique, that is, it will be sold to no one else and they will never be sold

[Dr. Hub]

As a child, I also made rockets. From artillery gunpowder and foil. I believe such engineers in Ukraine as well

[svp67]

Soviet weapons were created on the basis of production at any small-scale suitable enterprises, so having excellent German equipment is not surprising that Ukraine can establish missile production. The question is different. This rocket belongs to the category of Highly Accurate, but can Ukraine ensure the reliability of guidance systems? And is there enough money for this?

[japs]

The most important thing is the pipe. High precision. And they didn’t think that they would invest in the pipe.
Now we need an investor and financing from the government, that is, just a little remains.

[Equalized]

There are imported components for the guidance system.

[Equalized]

More specifically, the development-production chain looks like this:

1) The original developer - KB "Southern".

But now the project is being supervised by the Luch Design Bureau from Kiev. Representatives of Yuzhny themselves stated that the project was outdated and generally too simple for their level, the only reason for which it was developed was the shortage of missiles for the 9K58 Smerch and an attempt to make up for them. The goal of screwing an advanced ANN with GPS is to reduce the consumption of missiles by increasing accuracy (because they will not be able to produce millions of missiles in the USSR).

2) Rocket engine and rocket fuel - Pavlograd Chemical Plant

3) The warhead of the rocket and explosives for warheads - KP Shostkinsky state factory "Zirka"

4) Rocket body, assembly of the rocket together - SJSC "Artyom" from the news.

5) Navigation system - "Kb Luch" + imported components for ANN (for GPS navigation)

Perhaps the state-owned Orizon-Navigation or the KPSP Arsenal are also participating, but this is not accurate.

[svp67]

Quote: Equalized

The original developer - Design Bureau "South".

Design Bureau Yuzhnoye is unlikely to be such a "baby", especially if it could deal with solid fuel, but

Quote: Equalized

Design Bureau "Ray" from Kiev.

these yes, they have plenty of experience in creating such land and air-based missiles, but they just didn’t do the guidance systems themselves, they worked together with the Belarusian Peleng. Here it seems to me that "Willow" and "Polonaise" are cousins ​​of "relative"

[Equalized]

As far as I know, all the same, R&D began in Yuzhnoye Design Bureau, but for such a huge design bureau this trivial project is too bold, so they entrusted it to Luch.

The exact opposite is the situation with OTRK. Previously, there were rumors that the Luch project was involved, but competence in this area was lame, it turned out that the South cooperated with the Saudis

[svp67]

Quote: Equalized

The exact opposite is the situation with OTRK. Previously, there were rumors that he was engaged in such a project "Ray"

I’m wondering where you got such information from. Just that OTR
In 1994-2003, the State Design Bureau "Yuzhnoye" conducted work on the creation of the Borisphen operational-tactical complex, but in the end the work was discontinued.
In 2006, with the active support of President V. A. Yushchenko, the Security Council of Ukraine decided to start developing the Sapsan multifunctional operational-tactical missile system, and in the same year, an agreement was signed with the Yuzhnoye Design Bureau on the development of the complex and work on the project began
On June 22, 2013, the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine stopped financing the project
On January 28, 2016, President of Ukraine P. A. Poroshenko said that the approved version of the state military order of Ukraine for 2016 provides for the allocation of funding for the state target program for the creation of the Sapsan multi-purpose missile system
Now work is underway on the OTR Thunder-2 and the Korshun CR
and all this in the post-Soviet period was the projects of Pivdenny
“Ray” has so far been noted in the development of RCC “Neptune”

[prosto_rgb]

Quote: svp67

Here it seems to me that "Willow" and "Polonaise" are cousins ​​of "relative"

not even grand grandparents
the technique is fundamentally different
Willow is the import substitution of the Soviet Tornado

[prosto_rgb]

Quote: Equalized

5) Navigation system - "Kb Luch" + imported components for ANN (for GPS navigation)

they have everything for GPS navigation, they are delivered to China for precision bombs

[rocket757]

Clarification - weapons during the war could be suitable for the manufacture / assembly in the "basements", but peacetime weapons were always manufactured to high technological standards and certainly not where. And why would then then the long survivability and reliability of Soviet weapons still work and quite successfully.

[Eurodav]

Missile defense, eprst ... Under the control of the warlock ...

[rocket757]

No, no, he is a pastor and a completely official church ... though this does not guarantee that this church is from God, and not from someone who dwells lower.

[Egv]

"According to Ukrainian developers, the key difference from Soviet development was that the new missiles are adjustable."
In fact, "Tornado" has an adjustable shell.

[rocket757]

In principle, a grenade launcher can shoot a grenade with a controlled detonation, but it is expensive, and the effectiveness is not obvious (for the price and the result), so the use is justified only in special units, where as they say it is not worth the price.
It is not necessary to say that shooting at squares is not at all necessary, high-precision weapons are expensive at first and require additional technical means to control the projectile / rocket, and secondly there are and will be countermeasures. So the modernization of unguided projectile systems, missiles, and bombs also remains relevant, because et cheaper and inevitable in terms of countering them.