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"Ukroboronprom" announced its readiness to produce new missiles

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According to the press service of the concern "Ukroboronprom", the company "Artem", which is part of the concern, conducted a demonstration of a new technological line for the production of rocket corps. It is indicated that the new equipment will allow the production of Velkha (Alder) missile bodies.


In "Ukroboronprom" indicate that at the moment the line consisting of the rolling machine RFFM 330-138-300 manufactured by Repkon, is at the stage of commissioning. After finishing it, the company "Artem" will be able to produce high precision hollow tubes.

"Ukroboronprom" announced its readiness to produce new missiles


We are launching a technological line that will ensure the production of unique housings for our equipment. Now we can make rocket hulls from superalloys. Even in Soviet times, Ukraine had no such technologies.
- said the Secretary of the National Security Council of Ukraine Oleksandr Turchynov.

Representatives of the company "Artem" indicate that the equipment will allow to produce parts with different wall thicknesses that are needed in the production of Alder missiles, created on the basis of the Smerch multiple launch rocket system (MLRS).

According to Ukrainian developers, the key difference from the Soviet development was that the new missiles are adjustable and can hit targets with much greater accuracy. According to the description of the new missile system, it can replace the Smerch MLRS, as well as the Tochka-U tactical missile system, while demonstrating greater accuracy, reports "Warspot"
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ukroboronprom.com.ua
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  1. Dezinto
    Dezinto 27 November 2017 13: 15 New
    +8
    Even in Soviet times, Ukraine did not have such technologies.


    Now that's when they are so pro ... mm they say so funny)))
    I suppose he remembers how he grew up in October, and then he entered the Komsomol with pride ......))))
    хы хы хы
    1. Jedi
      Jedi 27 November 2017 13: 17 New
      +4
      Another change "for the media and the West"? wink
      1. Logall
        Logall 27 November 2017 13: 19 New
        +8
        It's just that they are trying to distract everyone from the internal problems of Ukraine in this way! Of which every day becomes more and more ...
        1. bulvas
          bulvas 27 November 2017 13: 31 New
          +4
          Wasn’t it easier to agree with Donetsk and with Russia?

          Or hope to solve everything by war?

          Are your brains completely leaked?
          1. esaul
            esaul 27 November 2017 14: 01 New
            +3
            Quote: bulvas
            Are your brains completely leaked?

            And they were in the skull of this one, which in the page beret is drawn in the photo?
        2. Slovak
          Slovak 27 November 2017 15: 28 New
          +2
          Fuck from the phrase: "Even in Soviet times, Ukraine did not have such technologies ..." For 25 years, thank God, all technologies have advanced, and these continue to recall Soviet times ... But now the shells will be heavy-duty, which will "increase accuracy hitting targets ... Ukromozb thing is very strange ..
      2. Reserve officer
        Reserve officer 27 November 2017 13: 29 New
        +4
        Have you done pyrotechnics? It's time - soon the New Year.
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        2. Jedi
          Jedi 27 November 2017 13: 42 New
          +4
          As if these myzdobulov again fireworks did not work ahead of schedule. wink
    2. Monos
      Monos 27 November 2017 13: 52 New
      +8
      Even in Soviet times, Ukraine did not have such technologies

      What I like about these little ones is that they uncover themselves. smile It turns out that the Soviet era was a reference, and the Union is an advanced, technologically advanced state, and not a “backward scoop,” since you are proud to have surpassed it in something. Selyuki.
      1. oldzek
        oldzek 27 November 2017 19: 25 New
        +1
        I remember in Soviet times, our achievements were very very long compared with 1913. It is interesting how long their comparisons will be in the Ukraine ???
  2. Sergey53
    Sergey53 27 November 2017 13: 18 New
    +1
    The Ministry of Finance declared NO MONEY.
  3. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 27 November 2017 13: 20 New
    +3
    In the rocket, in addition to the hulls, there is a lot more ... Fuel, for example ...
    1. Ustin
      Ustin 27 November 2017 14: 56 New
      +1
      The Ukrainian defense potential was built in the Union sufficient to solve many problems. Even now there is an opportunity to develop individual areas, all the more it is beneficial for the “curators”. Underestimating their capabilities is at least shortsighted. As much as I would not like to, but recent progress has been traced.
      1. Alf
        Alf 27 November 2017 19: 36 New
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        Quote: Ustin
        As much as I would not like to, but recent progress has been traced.

        In what?
        1. Ustin
          Ustin 28 November 2017 03: 30 New
          0
          There are certain areas where you can really expect a breakthrough. The change in the "cooperant" in components has certainly greatly affected, but it is not difficult to find a replacement in the West.
          Considering that for decades there were created SCHOOLS in areas (aviation, engine building, weapon systems, tank building, electronic industry) it’s difficult to “fall in love” all this. There is also a potential “enemy” - the heads were washed well for 25 years, some kind of national idea . So throwing all this off the shield is unreasonable.
    2. Orionvit
      Orionvit 27 November 2017 20: 23 New
      0
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      In the rocket, in addition to the hulls, there is a lot more.

      I recalled an old joke:
      - Allow me to introduce myself, the commander of the tank corps, Lieutenant Netrebenko.
      - So young, but already the commander of the tank corps?
      - Yes sir. They drank the tank, but one building remained. laughing
    3. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb 28 November 2017 01: 10 New
      0
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      In the rocket, in addition to the hulls, there is a lot more ... Fuel, for example ...

      fuel they have their own Pavlodar chemical plant at least
      well, besides fuel, steering drives for a wide variety of missiles
      as well as gos
      1. Alf
        Alf 28 November 2017 19: 13 New
        +1
        Quote: prosto_rgb
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        In the rocket, in addition to the hulls, there is a lot more ... Fuel, for example ...

        fuel they have their own Pavlodar chemical plant at least
        well, besides fuel, steering drives for a wide variety of missiles
        as well as gos

        Every day in Ukraine, new tanks, planes, missiles, and machine guns are shown at exhibitions in Ukraine. Except for exhibitions, nobody sees them anywhere else. As well as the money allocated for their production.
        1. prosto_rgb
          prosto_rgb 28 November 2017 23: 07 New
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          Quote: Alf
          Every day in Ukraine, new tanks, planes, missiles, and machine guns are shown at exhibitions in Ukraine.

          this is what is now developed
          so generally do all over the world
          Quote: Alf
          from only besides exhibitions nobody sees them anywhere. As well as the money allocated for their production.

          Well, the Air-to-Air missiles are quite exported and even
          it's just that they don’t write about it on the site
    4. Ace Tambourine
      Ace Tambourine 28 November 2017 20: 06 New
      0
      A dung !!!! Yes, how dare you !!! ???
  4. ded100
    ded100 27 November 2017 13: 26 New
    +3
    Production established! wassat

  5. rocket757
    rocket757 27 November 2017 13: 43 New
    +4
    Well, yes, they had steel production technology for nuclear reactors !!! and disposable products, like rockets of the type aerobatics in metallurgy fool
  6. Lena Petrova
    Lena Petrova 27 November 2017 14: 03 New
    +2
    Obviously, this is the most necessary for the Ukrainian economy.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 27 November 2017 14: 09 New
      +3
      Is this the most necessary for the extreme as such?
  7. NKT
    NKT 27 November 2017 14: 04 New
    +2
    In "Ukroboronprom" indicate that at the moment the line consisting of rolling machine RFFM 330-138-300 production company ....


    Initially it seemed like a lip-folding machine)
  8. Kerensky
    Kerensky 27 November 2017 14: 06 New
    +1
    Well now enough pipes for bourgeois. And then I began to worry.
  9. Dimachrus
    Dimachrus 27 November 2017 14: 08 New
    +1
    Pastor they have - odnayaako))))
    Constantly in military uniform ...
    An interesting denomination, well, or by moonlighting by advertising)))))
  10. vredlo
    vredlo 27 November 2017 14: 40 New
    +1
    line consisting of a rolling machine RFFM 330-138-300 manufactured by Repkon
    We are launching a production line that will ensure the production of unique cases for our equipment.
    the technology based on a device of foreign development is unique, that is, it will be sold to no one else and they will never be sold
  11. Dr. Hub
    Dr. Hub 27 November 2017 14: 48 New
    +3
    As a child, I also made rockets. From artillery gunpowder and foil. I believe such engineers in Ukraine as well
  12. svp67
    svp67 27 November 2017 14: 59 New
    +2
    Soviet weapons were created on the basis of production at any small-scale suitable enterprises, so having excellent German equipment is not surprising that Ukraine can establish missile production. The question is different. This rocket belongs to the category of Highly Accurate, but can Ukraine ensure the reliability of guidance systems? And is there enough money for this?
    1. japs
      japs 27 November 2017 15: 44 New
      +4
      The most important thing is the pipe. High precision. And they didn’t think that they would invest in the pipe.
      Now we need an investor and financing from the government, that is, just a little remains.
    2. Equalized
      Equalized 27 November 2017 17: 00 New
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      There are imported components for the guidance system.
      1. Equalized
        Equalized 27 November 2017 17: 16 New
        +1
        More specifically, the development-production chain looks like this:

        1) The original developer - KB "Southern".

        But now the project is being supervised by the Luch Design Bureau from Kiev. Representatives of Yuzhny themselves stated that the project was outdated and generally too simple for their level, the only reason for which it was developed was the shortage of missiles for the 9K58 Smerch and an attempt to make up for them. The goal of screwing an advanced ANN with GPS is to reduce the consumption of missiles by increasing accuracy (because they will not be able to produce millions of missiles in the USSR).

        2) Rocket engine and rocket fuel - Pavlograd Chemical Plant

        3) The warhead of the rocket and explosives for warheads - KP Shostkinsky state factory "Zirka"

        4) Rocket body, assembly of the rocket together - SJSC "Artyom" from the news.

        5) Navigation system - "Kb Luch" + imported components for ANN (for GPS navigation)

        Perhaps the state-owned Orizon-Navigation or the KPSP Arsenal are also participating, but this is not accurate.
        1. svp67
          svp67 27 November 2017 18: 10 New
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          Quote: Equalized
          The original developer - Design Bureau "South".

          Design Bureau Yuzhnoye is unlikely to be such a "baby", especially if it could deal with solid fuel, but
          Quote: Equalized
          Design Bureau "Ray" from Kiev.

          these yes, they have plenty of experience in creating such land and air-based missiles, but they just didn’t do the guidance systems themselves, they worked together with the Belarusian Peleng. Here it seems to me that "Willow" and "Polonaise" are cousins ​​of "relative"
          1. Equalized
            Equalized 27 November 2017 18: 25 New
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            As far as I know, all the same, R&D began in Yuzhnoye Design Bureau, but for such a huge design bureau this trivial project is too bold, so they entrusted it to Luch.

            The exact opposite is the situation with OTRK. Previously, there were rumors that the Luch project was involved, but competence in this area was lame, it turned out that the South cooperated with the Saudis
            1. svp67
              svp67 27 November 2017 19: 51 New
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              Quote: Equalized
              The exact opposite is the situation with OTRK. Previously, there were rumors that he was engaged in such a project "Ray"

              I’m wondering where you got such information from. Just that OTR
              In 1994-2003, the State Design Bureau "Yuzhnoye" conducted work on the creation of the Borisphen operational-tactical complex, but in the end the work was discontinued.
              In 2006, with the active support of President V. A. Yushchenko, the Security Council of Ukraine decided to start developing the Sapsan multifunctional operational-tactical missile system, and in the same year, an agreement was signed with the Yuzhnoye Design Bureau on the development of the complex and work on the project began
              On June 22, 2013, the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine stopped financing the project
              On January 28, 2016, President of Ukraine P. A. Poroshenko said that the approved version of the state military order of Ukraine for 2016 provides for the allocation of funding for the state target program for the creation of the Sapsan multi-purpose missile system

              Now work is underway on the OTR Thunder-2 and the Korshun CR
              and all this in the post-Soviet period was the projects of Pivdenny
              “Ray” has so far been noted in the development of RCC “Neptune”
          2. prosto_rgb
            prosto_rgb 28 November 2017 01: 17 New
            0
            Quote: svp67
            Here it seems to me that "Willow" and "Polonaise" are cousins ​​of "relative"

            not even grand grandparents
            the technique is fundamentally different
            Willow is the import substitution of the Soviet Tornado
        2. prosto_rgb
          prosto_rgb 28 November 2017 01: 13 New
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          Quote: Equalized
          5) Navigation system - "Kb Luch" + imported components for ANN (for GPS navigation)

          they have everything for GPS navigation, they are delivered to China for precision bombs
    3. rocket757
      rocket757 27 November 2017 19: 50 New
      +3
      Clarification - weapons during the war could be suitable for the manufacture / assembly in the "basements", but peacetime weapons were always manufactured to high technological standards and certainly not where. And why would then then the long survivability and reliability of Soviet weapons still work and quite successfully.
  13. Eurodav
    Eurodav 27 November 2017 17: 44 New
    0
    Missile defense, eprst ... Under the control of the warlock ...
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 27 November 2017 19: 53 New
      +3
      No, no, he is a pastor and a completely official church ... though this does not guarantee that this church is from God, and not from someone who dwells lower.
  14. Egv
    Egv 28 November 2017 09: 18 New
    0
    "According to Ukrainian developers, the key difference from Soviet development was that the new missiles are adjustable."
    In fact, "Tornado" has an adjustable shell.
  15. rocket757
    rocket757 28 November 2017 10: 35 New
    +3
    In principle, a grenade launcher can shoot a grenade with a controlled detonation, but it is expensive, and the effectiveness is not obvious (for the price and the result), so the use is justified only in special units, where as they say it is not worth the price.
    It is not necessary to say that shooting at squares is not at all necessary, high-precision weapons are expensive at first and require additional technical means to control the projectile / rocket, and secondly there are and will be countermeasures. So the modernization of unguided projectile systems, missiles, and bombs also remains relevant, because et cheaper and inevitable in terms of countering them.