Ukraine is now powerful, it’s impossible to openly arm it: opinion from across the ocean

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Ukraine is able to protect itself without the United States. Therefore, if we are to arm Kiev, then it should be done secretly. Such an opinion appeared in the popular American newspaper The Washington Times.





In the US, there were new calls for the supply of arms to Kiev. However, these appeals are “not related to Russia”. It’s rather an attempt by the American establishment to persuade President Trump to act, leads the opinion of The Washington Times columnist Todd Wood’s website "InoTV".

As the journalist believes, Kiev can protect itself. Washington has nothing to intervene in a distant conflict. In addition, Ukraine is not part of NATO. In any case, it is not worth openly interfering.

Todd Wood admits that the coherence of the campaign to provide Ukraine with a defensive weapons "Sheds light on the obvious coordinated plan" of the republican establishment, which allegedly conspire with the "left liberals" of the American media. With the Russian it is not connected.

Attempts to supply arms to Kiev are supported by a well-known thesis: they say, Ukraine is fighting against the modernized armed forces of Russia in its east, and therefore needs US help. Hence the American goal, based on the “interest of national security”: to help Ukrainians in this struggle and stop the Russian “aggression”. However, The Washington Times columnist writes, “this scenario has several inconsistencies.”

The armed forces of Ukraine are now much more powerful in comparison with those that fought on the front lines several years ago. Today, Kiev already has its own "military-industrial complex." In addition, Kiev is not at all threatened by Russians Tanks, and their "heavy artillery." According to Mr. Wood, artillery fire in Ukraine repeatedly "was fought from Russia itself." And to counter such a threat, Kiev would need an improved anti-artillery radar and means to destroy targets at a long distance. The US delivery of anti-tank weapons to Kiev “will not do” against such a threat “nothing”.

Finally, Washington should have no interest in “participating in killings on one side or the other in another remote conflict” in which the existence or security of the United States is “not endangered”.

Wood's conclusion: US intelligence agencies could provide Ukraine with weapons for protection through their secret channels. “Why should we sell weapons openly? - the observer asks. “That makes no sense.”

Mr. Voodoo, we note, for the completeness of the material did not have a single thesis: evidence of the dense fire of the "heavy artillery" of the Russians on Ukrainian territory. Apparently, Putin was beating the Kremlin from direct fire in Kiev — no wonder Kiev is mentioned so many times in the American material.

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  1. +3
    27 November 2017 08: 19
    It's time to return the scrap metal back to ruin .. By reverse ..
    1. +7
      27 November 2017 08: 31
      Ukraine is able to protect itself, without the United States
      and rightly so, Petya screams that he has the most powerful army in Europe, so why help them .. well done journalist, I heard Petyunya))
      According to Mr. Wood, artillery fire in Ukraine repeatedly "was fought from Russia itself"
      that's right, Donbass tse Russia)))
      1. +3
        27 November 2017 08: 37
        In every Western article on similar topics, the idea or even the complete assertion that the Kremlin is bombing Ukraine, Russian aggression, etc., is always a red thread, which incidentally also concerns Syrian topics. They continue to drive their strategic lies into the doubters. It was as if they were all gathered in the assembly hall and instructed in painting.
        1. +3
          27 November 2017 08: 47
          Quote: maxim947
          It was as if they were all gathered in the assembly hall and instructed in painting.

          Namesake hi You are not far from the truth. Only instead of the general meeting, a strict form was sent to everyone with an exact indication of what and how to write in their articles.
          1. +1
            27 November 2017 09: 14
            And now who are they taking as political informants? Although, from experience: either party or activists, i.e. either gays or lesbians.
            1. 0
              27 November 2017 09: 28
              ...those. either gays or lesbians.[i] [/ i]
              There, according to the "laws of the genre" and the fear of being caught in the absence of tolerance, there should be every creature in pairs.
        2. 0
          27 November 2017 09: 20
          Well, apparently, since August 2014, Russia really intervened in the conflict on the side of the Donbass. I read, for example, the memoirs of Gubarev (one of the leaders of the Donbass), he frankly hints at this, that Russia helped the Donbass. And yes, I I believe that I did the right thing that helped.
        3. 0
          27 November 2017 09: 47
          Quote: maxim947
          the assertion that the Kremlin is bombing Ukraine, Russian aggression, etc.

          If there was at least one, even the smallest evidence of Moscow’s “guilt”, even a hint, the entire collective west would have long gone to guano. And they can only cry about the “aggression of the Kremlin”. The "valiant" APUs have not yet seen what a massive air strike is, after which they will have no tanks or everything else, otherwise they would be silent in a rag. In Syria, two dozen aircraft, the course of the war changed, and these there, they are at war with Russia.
          1. 0
            27 November 2017 09: 56
            Let's not be cunning, our guys fought very seriously in Syria, even the generals on the front line were killed there ... and you are talking about two dozen aircraft .. huh, and PMCs were ours there, and now I think there are, and a couple more thousand fighters of the MTR of the Russian Federation , and a couple of thousand soldiers of engineering troops, as well as police battalions, as well as marines guarding the airfield and PMTO .. ​​military advisers, military equipment .. fleet, but in general everyone understands that if it were not for the Russians ..
            1. 0
              27 November 2017 19: 30
              Quote: igorka357
              Let's not be cunning, our guys in Syria fought very seriously

              And here to dissemble? With all the grandeur of the tasks solved in Syria, the loss of Russia, only 48 people. What speaks of the highest professionalism of the Russian army. Yes, they all see it, but not always voiced.
    2. +5
      27 November 2017 08: 45
      Half of the American “beau monde” lives on Mars, so there is nothing to turn to the next high-ranking analyst there ... But at the official level, Moscow needs to give Washington a clear message that Russia’s official arms deliveries will be regarded by Russia as an extremely unfriendly step aimed at escalation of armed conflict in eastern Ukraine and the Kremlin reserves the right in this case to really introduce "modernized armed forces of Russia" to protect the Russian-speaking population of Ukraine and their national interests!
    3. 0
      27 November 2017 16: 14
      It is time for Russians to demand that the Russian Ministry of Defense begin supplying new equipment to the DPR and LPR. And what, normally, the citizens of the country demand, their opinion must be respected!
  2. +8
    27 November 2017 08: 21
    Putin hit from the Kremlin direct fire in Kiev
    Yeah, from Tsar Cannon! wassat
    1. +5
      27 November 2017 08: 27
      Quote from Uncle Lee
      Yeah, from Tsar Cannon!
      He used the Tsar Bell as a psychotronic weapon wassat
      “Why should we sell weapons openly? - the browser asks. “That makes no sense.”
      And in general, there is no point in selling anything to present-day Ukraine - they have a pretty neem. But to get free Ukrainians consonants forever
      1. +8
        27 November 2017 08: 34
        Quote: Ami du peuple
        Tsar Bell as a psychotronic weapon

        I didn’t write about the Tsar-Bell as a specialist, so as not to escalate the situation!
      2. Mwg
        0
        27 November 2017 09: 19
        For Ami du peuple. Yes you what! There are pennies. According to the scheme: I will give you a loan on bail, for example, of land, and you will buy weapons for this money from me (otherwise, damn it, it will go out soon, you will have to dispose of it at your own expense soon). Good bargaining and, most importantly, has been run around for centuries. For example, in Britain, at one time, the value of the rope and the executioner's services were deducted from the gallows' property ... Traditions ...
      3. BAI
        0
        27 November 2017 09: 49
        they have a penny

        The West will take credit for these purposes. They will give it. The main thing is to take, and where and how to spend, this is another question.
    2. 0
      27 November 2017 16: 15
      Personally, he was a gunner. And the entire presidential administration is fully charged. Single core.
    3. 0
      27 November 2017 21: 21
      By the way, in Donetsk there is an exact copy of "Tsar Cannon", so Putin shot directly from Donetsk laughing
  3. +5
    27 November 2017 08: 25
    gradually, a suitcase without a handle gets harder and harder for the Yankees. here they are trying to justify their submission of positions with the opinions of “experts”.
  4. +2
    27 November 2017 08: 31
    Washington should have no interest in participating “in killings on one side or another in another remote conflict,” in which the US’s existence or security is “not compromised”.

    Golden words, if they were reinforced by deeds, would not be valuable to these words
    1. 0
      27 November 2017 16: 24
      Quote: solzh
      if they were still supported by deeds


      Hey. But is it even if the Evenk in the yaranga farted loudly, is this not a threat to US security? Washington replicates threats to its beloved, like hot cakes from the tandoor, when he needs it to satisfy his predatory needs. So what to believe blah blah Anglo-Saxon - to be a complete loser. Yes
  5. +9
    27 November 2017 08: 32
    Wood's conclusion: US intelligence agencies could provide Ukraine with weapons for protection through its secret channels.


    That is the logic of this journal?
    1. +4
      27 November 2017 08: 37
      She doesn’t want to give weapons to the Ukrland, because even a hedgehog is understandable: soon they will correct the Ukrland on maps. because suddenly Amer’s pieces of iron will be pumped to the western front, against the Hungarians, Poles, Romanians?
      1. +8
        27 November 2017 08: 39
        This will suit the United States, they do not need a calm Europe.
        1. +4
          27 November 2017 08: 46
          yes, but for the Yankees it’s too early to get a geyropu, the Yankees still need it. at a certain moment, the geyropu will also be blown up, but this will be the last brick of general chaos along our borders.
          1. +8
            27 November 2017 08: 53
            No, they need Europe to work on their defense industry.
            1. +6
              27 November 2017 09: 04
              Macro Merkel rule Paka in Europe, the Yankees are happy with everything. but this is for the time being. when the whole story of flaming feuds along the perimeter of Russia is formed, the turn will come of the European tilt. but, as we see from the situation in the BV, while the geyropa can continue to tolerate.
              1. +7
                27 November 2017 09: 13
                They are occupied and will not jerk anywhere, but the US is also safe.
  6. 0
    27 November 2017 08: 35
    "Today, Kiev already has its own" military-industrial complex ""
    I wonder where did the military-industrial complex come from in Kiev? They even can’t provide for themselves. All that Kiev has / remains is repair shops that bring old iron left from the Union to a more or less acceptable state. At the same time, everything better goes on sale over the hill.
  7. +3
    27 November 2017 08: 53
    According to the journalist, Kiev can protect itself. Washington has no need to intervene in a distant conflict

    ... the journalist is right in one thing ... sad
    1. +8
      27 November 2017 09: 15
      For this, his fee may be stripped.
  8. 0
    27 November 2017 09: 04
    Ukraine is able protect yourself without the USA

    Why then with an outstretched hand? As soon as you begin to read the next Ukrainian-American freaks and for some reason it becomes very sad.
  9. Mwg
    +1
    27 November 2017 09: 12
    "In the US, new calls for arms supplies to Kiev were heard. However, these calls" are in no way connected with Russia. " - Well, pure demons, spoke out in the best traditions of turning upside down. They themselves still remember how the truth looks ???
    1. +7
      27 November 2017 09: 15
      Quote: MVG
      They themselves still remember how the truth looks ???


      They never knew, even in childhood.
  10. 0
    27 November 2017 09: 27
    Quote: maxim947
    In every Western article on similar topics, the idea or even the complete assertion that the Kremlin is bombing Ukraine, Russian aggression, etc., is always tied with red thread, by the way, this also applies to Syrian topics.

    -------------------
    I'm sitting through a VPN, so my checkboxes on the avatar change. I change the proxy and Yandex displays the headlines - “The new leader of the militants of Lugansk”, “The Kremlin carries out all kinds of aggression”, and other things from the Looking Glass, which is Kiev.
    In general, Don Pedro Chocolate long ago appointed his army the strongest in Europe. Why did he need someone else's weapon?
  11. 0
    27 November 2017 09: 38
    for completeness, the only thesis was not enough: evidence of dense fire of "heavy artillery" of Russians across Ukrainian territory
    I wonder when was the last time, in Western publications, there was at least one evidence?
  12. 0
    27 November 2017 11: 51
    That is, as they did before?
  13. 0
    27 November 2017 12: 42
    In short, Petruha boasted.
    Americans are openly trolling him, they will soon say that Ukraine is almost as strong as the army,
    like America. And that America needs the help of Ukraine.
  14. 0
    28 November 2017 20: 27
    Mattresses, you would have sent fat a "powerful power", goons!