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Council of Europe Secretary General: Europe without Russia - a huge step back

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Edition Financial Times comes out with a material in which he talks about the fear in the Council of Europe of the possibility of Russia leaving the organization. The general secretary of the organization, Thorbjørn Jagland, said that for the CoE "there would be an extreme negative loss of Russia as a member of the Council of Europe." Jagland also noted that "if Europe remains without Russia, it will be a huge step back."


Council of Europe Secretary General: Europe without Russia - a huge step back


In this regard, the leadership of the Council of Europe suggests the need to consider the abolition of anti-Russian sanctions previously introduced in the organization’s structures. Recall that the sanctions (including the deprivation of the Russian delegation of the word in the PACE) were explained by the “military aggression of Russia in Ukraine”. At the same time, the extension of sanctions against Russia in the Council of Europe today is far from supported by the overwhelming majority of its representatives.

Immediately after this statement, the CE Secretary General’s words were taken by the Ukrainian "partners." They made a statement that if the anti-Russian sanctions measures are lifted in the Council of Europe, then Ukraine "will have to reconsider the format of relations with this organization." The permanent representative of Ukraine in the EU, Dmitry Kuleba, said:

Such a move discredits the organization.


Now it will be possible to see how independent the Council of Europe is in making decisions.
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  1. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 27 November 2017 06: 38 New
    12
    Well, if in PACE ukry rule - there we have nothing to do!
    1. dik-nsk
      dik-nsk 27 November 2017 06: 39 New
      18
      there’s basically nothing to do there - it’s not a decisive body for the balabol deputies that ours, that theirs .. so, servants of the people like in the case of Europe ride at a budget expense
      1. The black
        The black 27 November 2017 06: 43 New
        +2
        Council of Europe Secretary General: Europe without Russia - a huge step back

        Now the work on the “Peacemaker” will increase laughing
        1. krot
          krot 27 November 2017 07: 34 New
          +2
          CoE is just without a useless talking room without Russia .. And how they huffed, how they stopped paying them! It’s time for us to leave such organizations! Where is the "Russophobe ball"!
          1. Going
            Going 27 November 2017 09: 28 New
            +7
            It won’t be so easy for the United States, it’ll write out a pendell now.
            1. ando_bor
              ando_bor 27 November 2017 11: 24 New
              +1
              Quote: Going
              It won’t be so easy for the United States, it’ll write out a pendell now.

              So it’s already beginning to reach everyone that the USA can be sent and there will be no pendells if you fly to Putin with gifts.
              1. Going
                Going 27 November 2017 11: 27 New
                +7
                We bring everyone to this, but not all are solved, in many countries politics is all on a leash in the United States, with puffy folders of dirt.
    2. siberalt
      siberalt 27 November 2017 06: 46 New
      +2
      Without Russia, there is nothing to talk about in the Council of Europe. request
      1. andre
        andre 27 November 2017 08: 34 New
        0
        Something I did not understand, yet it seems to me that he says "Do not throw me in a thorn bush" ?. Like, ay Vova, urgently pretend that you are leaving the CE, is this an occasion for us to lift the sanctions?
    3. Dezinto
      Dezinto 27 November 2017 06: 52 New
      +5
      Well, if in PACE ukry rule - there we have nothing to do!


      Well, here really ... what to do ..... Ukrainians are already a more advanced civilization. That's all, you can only smoke aside and look at the achievements:

      The newspaper Kurier Poranny, which is close to Polish government circles, publishes materials provided to her on condition of anonymity (and you never know how it can turn), a source in the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense.
      According to the source, a decision made earlier in the spring of 2017 to demilitarize the Ukraine missile cruiser (originally Komsomolets, from March 23, 1985 to March 20, 1993 the Admiral of the Fleet Lobov, the fourth ship of Project 1164 Atlant , is part of the Naval forces of Ukraine. Since 1990, after launching, it is located on the territory of the shipyard named after 61 Communards in Nikolaev



      in unfinished condition) will be reviewed in connection with the possible start of deliveries of APU missile systems "Javelin" (FGM-148 Javelin).
      These deliveries can be started immediately after the Ukrainian side lifts the moratorium on export of round timber to the EU countries, on which they insist, as an absolutely necessary condition for the provision of the next tranche of 600 million euros, the IMF and the Fed.
      According to a source, the ship, whose combat readiness is now estimated at 40.4%, will be towed to the port of Durres (Port of Durres, Albania), where it will undergo deep modernization.
      In fact, only coamings, klotik, kluzi, kingstones, a krayut-camera, a galley and a keel, all other add-ons, as well as internal volumes and the mechanisms and equipment located there, will remain untouched.
      Instead of them, 256 Javelin guided anti-aircraft missiles of the Block 3A and Block 3B modifications (the latter are capable of hitting fast after (up to 8.2 km / s) targets, including in near space, at a distance from the launch point up to 10-12, will be placed in the free space) AU (astronomical units). True, there will be relatively few, only 32 of the total.
      The bulk (224 units of Block 3A) is standard, with a range of not more than 500 km and with a reach in height of up to 55 km.
      The probability of hitting a target with both types of missiles is the same - with a single launch 0.997 (99.7%), with a double - ~ 1 (100%).
      In addition, it provides for the presence of 128 anti-ship Javelin Block 4A SM3, with a radius of guaranteed destruction of 1 miles (more than 200 km), with a variable flight profile and capable of carrying separable hypersonic warheads with warheads weighing 2 kg in TNT for cumulative and 200 kg - for a high explosive version.
      Finally, one cannot fail to mention the 16 light (Javelin Block 6A) and 4 heavy (Javelin Block 6AM1) strategic ballistic missiles, which will provide the cruiser with the ability to hit, regardless of the time of day, year or weather conditions, as easy as and medium-armored objects at a distance of up to 18 thousand km (for light carriers) and 24 thousand km for heavy, respectively.


      Javelin Block 6AM1 enters the mode. Fairing dropped, visible (on the left) ready for breeding for warheads
      In total, the updated Ukraine in its capabilities can be compared with a squadron, or even a fleet of strategic missile carriers and URA cruisers, and can not only be compared, but far surpass them.
      At the end of the modernization, the cruiser will be additionally painted in economic color, at the expense and at the discretion of the contractor, the Albanian company TEG.
      Such high characteristics of missile weapons are explained by the fact that “genetically” all models and modifications go back to a single “grandparent” - FGM-148 - and differ from it only in size and guidance systems developed earlier for the APU jointly by the Poltava Institute of Pseudo-Intellectual Entities and the Lviv Center reversely hysteresis logic.


      Well, where do we ask them? That we all lubricate the skis ..... there soon this hhromyadin will come out to sea, you can close the ports ..... laughing

      And this is only part of the declassified, what will be capable of this cruiser is not known to anyone !!



      belay
      1. Tatar 174
        Tatar 174 27 November 2017 07: 08 New
        +1
        Quote: DEZINTO
        Well, here really ... what to do ..... Ukrainians are already a more advanced civilization.

        Ukrainians say that Ukraine is Europe. But what then is what we still considered Europe?
        1. Berber
          Berber 27 November 2017 09: 11 New
          +1
          In my opinion, Europe has gone too far in rhetoric. They will regret more than once. Although the level of irresponsibility of current politicians is off scale.
      2. alexmach
        alexmach 27 November 2017 10: 15 New
        +1
        256 Javelin guided anti-aircraft missiles of Block 3A and Block 3B modifications (the latter are capable of striking fast after (up to 8.2 km / s) targets, including in near space, at a distance from the launch point to 10-12 AU (astronomical units).

        In addition, the presence of 128 anti-ship Javelin Block 4A SM3 is provided, with a radius of guaranteed destruction of 1 miles (more than 200 km)

        All Russians, hello, NATO now even has a Javelin ATGM can hit targets in near space!
    4. saniajan
      saniajan 27 November 2017 06: 56 New
      +1
      Europe without Russia would not exist for a long time!
      1. Orionvit
        Orionvit 27 November 2017 07: 21 New
        +1
        It can be said differently. "Europe without Russia is a step into the abyss." It is strange that some senior European officials are not afraid to talk about it out loud. However, if Europe is bent (and the process is already underway, not everything is perfect there), you can only gloat. What such "European values" will liberal "truth-seekers" point to then?
    5. antivirus
      antivirus 27 November 2017 07: 26 New
      +1
      Well, let's get out.
      and join the council of Asia
    6. Finches
      Finches 27 November 2017 07: 28 New
      +3
      He also clarified that in Crimea there is a principled position — Crimea is not our place! So, you need to leave this wretched organization and not pay any contributions until this is their “principled” position — to be changed to a fair one — Crimea is ours! And if this descendant of the Vikings and if other European Junkers look at a geographical map, they can make a very important discovery for themselves — that the European part of Russia is 35% of their sluggish Europe!
  2. Same lech
    Same lech 27 November 2017 06: 40 New
    +5
    Council of Europe Secretary General: Europe without Russia - a huge step back


    To paraphrase in another way ...
    Russia without EUROPE is a huge step forward ...

    all wars and revolutions came to us from EUROPE ... how much grief and suffering European countries brought to our country ... we will live without them ... the world is big.

    Of course, I do not call for self-isolation ... just our European friends need to be reminded that the light did not converge on them ... we will survive this loss.
    1. Alexander 3
      Alexander 3 27 November 2017 06: 53 New
      +3
      The USSR lived under constant sanctions. Russia did not get used to the courtesies of the West. We lived and will live.
  3. 210ox
    210ox 27 November 2017 06: 40 New
    +3
    Why do we need Europeans? As a source of technology? Perhaps. But in about ten years I hope we won’t need you ... Take a walk and chew the sawdust!
  4. Mu Dialer
    Mu Dialer 27 November 2017 06: 52 New
    +3
    But Russia does not need this European circus.
  5. Herculesic
    Herculesic 27 November 2017 06: 57 New
    0
    Well, walk yourself confidently back, taking ukroinu with you!
  6. askort154
    askort154 27 November 2017 06: 59 New
    +4
    The Russian contribution to PACE is 32 mln.dol., Per year, which is transferred in stages. In 2017 the balance of 11 million. We temporarily suspended its payment. Here is the secretary general and worried that Russia could leave PACE. And, actually, PACE tongue equivalent to PPR (Sat, Sat, Separated). yes
  7. aszzz888
    aszzz888 27 November 2017 07: 00 New
    +2
    ... as you read, it seems - either he was going to leave his post, and he was already on the drum, or he was sick ... bully
  8. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 27 November 2017 07: 06 New
    +7
    Quote: DEZINTO
    coamings, klotik, kluzi, kingston, kruyt-kam, galley and keel

    But what about Bollards, Bale trims, Knights, CompAsses and rubber dam? Really old left ... Disorder!
    1. oldzek
      oldzek 27 November 2017 11: 00 New
      +1
      ... and the cat escaped with the rats.
  9. Altona
    Altona 27 November 2017 07: 35 New
    +3
    Most likely, the fact is that the European economy needs Russia. All the same, 500 billion of mutual trade on the road do not lie, and winter is on its way. Although the United States is building a network of gas hubs to receive its LNG, pipeline gas from Russia is somehow more reliable. Anyway, why Europe should suffer indiscriminately, if the US uses sanctions selectively, then sanctions, there are no sanctions, here we wrap fish.
  10. Kent0001
    Kent0001 27 November 2017 07: 54 New
    +1
    Yes they need our grandmothers, and only
  11. Evgenijus
    Evgenijus 27 November 2017 08: 13 New
    0
    Ukrainian "partners":
    ... Ukraine "will have to reconsider the format of relations with this organization

    Scared. Give up the "European" gas?
  12. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 27 November 2017 09: 18 New
    0
    then Ukraine “will have to reconsider the format of relations with this organization”

    Is this unfinished still trying and threatening? Europe, it's time to open my eyes.
  13. BAI
    BAI 27 November 2017 09: 51 New
    0
    Excerpt from the speech is not complete. It was also said there that the lifting of sanctions does not mean recognition of Crimea as Russian.
  14. axiles100682
    axiles100682 27 November 2017 17: 44 New
    0
    Nafish, we need this Sharazhkin office! What for 33 lamas of our eureka, we are constantly rotten. Here, these 33 lamas are really, as the liberals constantly shout, put as an addition to their pension
  15. Sige
    Sige 28 November 2017 14: 21 New
    0
    And Russia continues to pay for all this Russophobia.