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Last attempt: Stalinogorsk assault

The assault and seizure of Stalinogorsk-1 (modern Novomoskovsk, Tula region) by German troops 23-25 in November 1941, still remains a little-studied page of military stories Tula region. The point is not only that the Siberian and Far Eastern 239-Infantry Division defending the city destroyed all of its documentation during the breakthrough from the encirclement under Stalinogorsk, and the witnesses of those events have mostly died.

As Novomoskovsk ethnographer N. Chumichev noted back in the 1970s, “if Novomoskovsk’s labor achievement was marked by the Order of the Red Banner of Labor, then the military period of the city had not been studied for more than 30 years, and the residents were used to the fact that did not happen and in the underground no one was left. And this is fraught with great troubles in the upbringing of the younger generation. ”

This is what happened. Over the past 40 years, this statement has finally become the norm: Stalinogorsk passed without a fight. One-sidedly studied and covered only the liberation of the city, but not its defense. Modern veteran, public organizations of Novomoskovsk, the region and the region are not aware of the feat of the Siberians in their native land. A regular watch of memory in the Novomoskovsk region, military reconstruction of the defense of the city, a memorial sign to the Siberians of the 239 Infantry Division, or at least a memorial plaque? Maybe the merits of the division commander were awarded the title of honorary citizen of Novomoskovsk? .. And the city itself - the honorary title of "a military valor settlement"? .. No, they did not hear.

How did this happen? The already mentioned N. S. Chumichev names four reasons that have taken away military glory from the city. But there is also a fifth one: the majority of the townspeople inhabiting it do not have this business at all. “A man of restless heart”, Novomoskovsk ethnographer Chumichev, has long died, and now there are completely different trends in fashion ...

The recent scandal with the performance of the Urengoy boy in the German Bundestag clearly exposed this problem of modern Russian society. Alexander Saveliev, a search engine from Rybinsk, describes it very briefly:

They say we have a very strange patriotism. Not true! In fact, he is scary. Cardboard, showy, blatant, cheap. Whatever, just not real. And in this he is just terrible - in his deceit.

Well ... although this is not a performance in the Bundestag, the word is to German veterans, thus the former fascists who stormed 23-25 in November on 1941 of Stalinogorsk. In many ways, you can disagree with them, but they certainly have nothing to fear for local patriotism and, especially, to embellish their opponent - the soldiers and commanders of the 239 Infantry Division in the battles of Stalinogorsk. So, a fragment of the combat history of the German 315 Infantry Regiment of the 167 Infantry Division, second half of November of the 1941 year: the assault and capture of Stalinogorsk (now Novomoskovsk) of the Tula Region. Comments of the translator in square brackets right in the text.

Franz Mayrhofer, Hrsg. Kameradschaft ehem. Gren.Rgt. 315: Geschichte des Grenadier-Regiment 315 der bayrischen 167. Inf.Div. - Almhütten-Division - 1939 — 1944, München 1975, 2. Auflage 1977. - S. 166 — 178.

Stalinogorsk assault 25 November 1941 of the year

Siberians defended to the last, preferring to be killed, but not to leave their solitary trenches, shelters ... Russians do not surrender.

Last attempt: Stalinogorsk assault
Stalinogorsk eyes of the German soldier

In general, the situation, apparently, did not look particularly rosy. The unloaded 17 of November, under the Nodal Part of the Siberian 239 th Infantry Division, with which the 53 Army Corps had fought since then, despite all the German plans, were still far from their defeat. On the contrary, the combat power of this Soviet elite unit has repeatedly caused serious harm. And also nothing foreshadowed the fact that they could be so quickly disposed of. Guderian described the following events as follows:

“November 26 The 53 Army Corps approached the Don, forced it with the forces of the 167 Infantry Division near Ivan-Ozer and attacked the Siberians northeast of this settlement, near Don. The valiant division seized 42 guns, a number of cars and up to 4000 prisoners. From the east, the 29-i motodivision of the 47-second tank corps was advancing on the Siberians, as a result of which the enemy was able to be surrounded. ”

This is to a certain extent a concise account of events in Guderian’s memoirs. Since the 315 Infantry Regiment took an exceptional part in these events and contributed significantly to its success with its military operations, it seems necessary to go deeper into the details of what happened.

The environment of the adversary in front of the 53 Army Corps began on November 25 of the year 1941 [inaccurate: already 24 November, units of the 29 motorized infantry division cut the rear communications of the 239 th rifle division in the east].

In its rear in the east were parts of the 29th motorized infantry division, in the north it struck further than the 47th tank corps [Already on November 24, the mechanized infantry units of the 4 Tank Division, supported by the tank group of the 3 Tank Division of the 47 Tank Corps, took up positions in the north at the site of the alleged Siberian breakthrough]. In the south, in particular, in the south-west, the 53 Army Corps is located in front of the Urvanka-Klin-Donskoy border held by the enemy: the left wing, by the 167 Infantry Division, in front of the Urvanka-Klin border, and on the right, the 112-Infantry Division in front Don. In the meantime, while the exhausted 112 Infantry Division had to maintain its position, the 167 Infantry Division should continue its attack on Urvanka, seize the Urvanka – Ivan-Ozero line on the Don, and after reaching the Don River to the west from here, turn south to finally surround the enemy, who is in front of the front of the 112 Infantry Division, if he retreats earlier.

The 315 Infantry Regiment, reinforced by the 1 Battalion of the 238 Artillery Regiment and assault guns, was assigned the combat task of advancing to the right of the Kamenka-Urvanka road, knocking down the enemy in Klin; on the left, the reinforced 339 Infantry Regiment should attack. Then, after the capture of Urvanka, both regiments must first break through in the direction of Ivan-Ozer to the Don River.

The line of defense of the 813 Infantry Regiment of the 239 Infantry Division along the railway embankment to the west of Urvanka and Klin. Fragment of the Soviet military reporting map of the 50 Army on November 23 of 1941. TsAMO.

The plan was made well, but will it be possible to implement it? At the headquarters of the division doubted.

“According to the [headquarters] of the division, there are too few available forces to accomplish this task, since the enemy is outnumbered by us and, moreover, defended very skillfully in a long industrial area [Speech about mines and factories between Urvanka and Donskoy]. When you try to clean up the area, the enemy’s superiority in numbers will appear even more clearly. ”

- This is what the 167 Infantry Division’s 25 Combat Warfare Journal says for November 1941 of the year. In fact, the fears were justified, especially with regard to the planned breakout area. Before the front of the 167 Infantry Division, a whole industrial area and urban development stretched from one of the settlements west of the Don River: in the south of Urvanka, immediately to the northeast of Ivan-Ozero, then in the north - Stalinogorsk [more precisely: Stalinogorsk-2; the southern Stalinogorsk-1 between Urvanka and Klin was not generally marked on the maps of the 167 Infantry Division]. Silhouettes of new high-rise buildings and factory chimneys, between which, like lost, miserable quarters with wooden huts as remnants of former rural settlements, their invisibility was exceptionally suitable for defense.

[The command of the surrounded Soviet 239 th rifle division was also well aware that its rear communications in the east were cut by the German 29 th motorized infantry division, and the way north to Silver Ponds is closed by the 4 th tank division. Therefore, in the evening of November 24, an important decision was made to break to the east. On the night from 24 to 25 in November, the 239-Infantry Division began an organized departure to the east, leaving behind cover units. The fighters and commanders of these detachments were to take an unequal battle in order to detain the German troops as much as possible and to enable the main forces of the division to break away. And before that, they themselves still had to attack - it was impossible to let the enemy know that they were planning to withdraw.]

But what remained - the order must be carried out. The attack should start at 8: 00 [Berlin time]. But, as if they knew about it, the Russians had already attacked before. In 5: 15, long before the cloudy daylight of November 25, the Siberians, turning into rifle chains, rolled over to the position of the 167 Infantry Division, lay down under barrage and rushed forward again. This lasted for about an hour, then the Soviet soldiers surrendered - all their attacks were repelled.

Already 6: 30. The best thing would be to immediately go to the counterattack, while the Red Army soldiers did not organize the defense, and their attacking units were in disarray because of the withdrawal. But there this damned railway embankment was located southwest of Urvanka, which for several days was well known to the infantry of the 315 Infantry Regiment. Behind her, the Russians equipped in several rows well-disguised machine gun firing points and positions of anti-tank guns that controlled the field in front of them. Therefore, at first it was necessary to wait for the combat readiness to open fire of their own heavy weapons. Soon this time has come.

105-mm field howitzers of the 1 division of the 238 artillery regiment were thrashed, mines with a roar flew over the heads of the infantrymen and whined at the railway embankment. The salvos perfectly fit the target. Despite this, the attack was not an easy walk. Because in front of the railway embankment, which was located, as if protecting the town of Urvanka, there was a level field without any possibility of shelter. Soviet guns fired from the embankment of direct fire on the attackers.

"This damned railway mound" is now part of the Novomoskovsk railway ring.
A view of the Novomoskovsk-1 station of the Moscow Railway from the west, from where the German 167-Infantry Division was advancing from Uzlovaya (Kamenka) to the position of defenders of Stalinogorsk.
Photo: Delta7 / Novomoskovsk Railway, December 2009.

From high-rise buildings [obviously, urban building Stalinogorsk-1] Towards the infantrymen of the 2 and 3 battalions, they were beaten by the slow lines of “so-and-so” Russian Maxim machine guns - their firing points could not be immediately detected in the endless window openings. In addition, the flanking fire (especially artillery) from the southeast from the Klina region became quite tangible.

Despite this, the 315 infantrymen coped. 5-i company under the command of Chief Lieutenant Kopske [it. Kopske] and 8-I company of Chief Lieutenant Roskoten [German Roßkothen] with the active support of assault guns of the [202 Division of assault guns] near 8: 45 reached the railway embankment and jumped over it to the other side.

Siberians defended to the last, preferring to be killed, but not to leave their solitary trenches, shelters. Captain Mayerhofer [him. Maierhofer] consulted for cover with Chief Lieutenant Roskoten, Chief Lieutenant Kopsk and platoon commander Feldwebel Edenhofer [him. Edenhofer]:

We need to move forward, Urvanka must be captured!

[Captain Franz Mayerhofer, him. Franz Maierhofer (Mayrhofer), Commander of the 2 Battalion, 315 Infantry Regiment, 167 Infantry Division. Participant in the assault of Stalinogorsk-1, holder of the military order of the German Cross in gold (July 1 1942). Author of this combat history of the German 315 Infantry Regiment.]

Feldwebel Edenhofer with her platoon should smoke the machine gun nests on the left, with him the 5-i company. The 8 Company must move to the right. Farther! Russians don’t give up, screaming out queues from machine-gun nests. Feldwebel Edenhofer barely lay down in the shelter, when behind him he saw his approached company commander, who ran straight into the zone of destruction of one machine gun. Feldwebel instantly saw the danger and shouted:

Get down, Mr. Ober Lieutenant!

“But it was too late.” Chief Lieutenant Kopske collapsed in 5 meters behind Edenhofer and died shortly thereafter. A little later, death caught up with Chief Lieutenant Roskoten, when he wanted to approach directly to one Russian in order to capture him. The Red Armyman threw his high weapon, the shot wounded the chief lieutenant so badly that he died a few hours later at the divisional medical center.

Here, between Urvanka and Klin, "only the fierce resistance of the Russians grew stronger."
German aerial photography of Stalinogorsk-1, November 1941 of the year.

Now fierce hand-to-hand fighting was raging everywhere, infantrymen of the 2 and 3 battalions at the outskirts of the settlement of Urvanka made their way through, meter by meter. Because of the enemy, who sat down in well-equipped positions, the losses increased constantly.

At least, now also managed to advance the right wing of the 315 Infantry Regiment. There, the precise fire of the 1 Division of the 40 Artillery Regiment and the 1 Division of the 238 Artillery Regiment according to Klin weakened the enemy so much that the 1 Battalion of the 315 Infantry Regiment in 10: paragraph. In 15: 12, the defense in Klin was broken through and reached the railway embankment to the north-east of it.

At the same time, on the left flank in front of the 2 and 3 battalions, the fierce resistance of the Russians strengthened. Both battalions, along with the right wing of the 339 Infantry Regiment, broke into the settlement of [Urbanka] and fought a hard street fight. The left wing of the 339 Infantry Regiment near 14: 00 reflected a strong counterattack of the [239 Infantry Division] from the northeast direction. Throughout the second half of the day, the battle in the industrial area of ​​Urvanka was going on with the utmost bitterness. Slowly, taking possession of the house behind the house, the 315 Infantry Regiment advanced. Hand grenades flew into the houses, expelling the Russians entrenched in them. In some places, the Soviet [troops] were defeated in the hardest melee, hand-to-hand. Right up to the night, machine guns knocked, carbines sounded and hand grenades rumbled. Then finally there was silence.

Late November 1941: destroyed enemy fortifications at Stalinogorsk.

In 20: Urnanka's 00 was taken — this is an outstanding achievement of heavily weakened regiments, about which the division commander personally congratulated the commanders of the 315 and 339 regiments by telephone. But success was also bought at a rather expensive price: the 315 Infantry Regiment alone reported as current losses on the 100 injured and on the disposal of the 5 company commanders. The 2 Battalion was especially badly damaged, because of the killed Ober-lieutenants Roskoten and Kopsk who died in battle, he lost two extremely capable and courageous company commanders. The 3 Battalion, which was also badly damaged, was taken back to Kamenka in the evening.

Fragment of the list of casualties of officers of the German 167 Infantry Division of the 2 Panzer Army in battles with the Soviet 239 Infantry Division 21-26 in November 1941 of the Year (NARA).

The description of this battle cannot be completed without paying tribute to the outstanding achievements of the military doctors and their orderlies participating in it. The battalion doctors, Dr. Aman [German: Amann] and Ulman [German: Ullmann] personally helped to carry the wounded out of enemy fire and, like the regimental doctor Dr. Kreuzer [German: Kreuzer], provided medical assistance non-stop and in difficult conditions people with sometimes severe injuries. For many of them, this selfless activity has saved a life. Both Dr. Aman and Dr. Ulman for their proven courage in front of the enemy received an iron cross of the 1 class.

Cleaning the area in German

On 26 in November, the order for division No. 116 defined the following boundaries of hostilities:

“1) The enemy — at least one division — is surrounded by the 167 th Infantry, 4 Tank Infantry, 29 Motorized Infantry and 112 Infantry Divisions in the area of ​​Dons-Klin-Kolodeznoye-Shirino-Ivankovo.
2) ... The 167 Infantry Division slams the encirclement ring from the west and north and squeezes it, sweeping the industrial area and the forest massif south and southeast of Urvanka ... "

[The mentioned “at least one division” is the Soviet 239-Rifle Division, together with volunteer girls from the local residents of Donskoy and Stalinogorsk who joined it. “The forest massif to the south and south-east of Urvanka” is also better known as the Urvansky forest, in which the central park of culture and recreation is located, and the mass grave of those who died during the defense of Stalinogorsk.]

To fulfill this order, the 331 Infantry Regiment without its 1 and 3 Battalions, with the subordinate 3 Battalion of the 315 Infantry Regiment, had to be alerted to attack the division from Kamenka to the east and capture first area between station Donskaya and Klin (excluding this settlement). The purpose of this maneuver was to prevent the breakthrough of a surrounded enemy, facing the front of the 112 Infantry Division.

The reinforced 315 Infantry Regiment (without the 3 Battalion) now received a combat mission together with its subordinate 3 Battalion of the 339 Infantry Regiment, according to the original plan, to advance from Urvanka in the southern and southeast direction, clean up the industrial area and forest area to the south and southeast of Urvanka and break through to the Klin line - 2,5 km northeast of Klin. Then at this turn the regiment should prevent the enemy from breaking to the north. The right wing must establish and maintain communications from Klin South with the left wing of the 331 Infantry Regiment, that is, the 3 Battalion of the 315 Infantry Regiment. The assault guns — finally, the new arrivals — remain under the control of the 315 Infantry Regiment.

Scheduled maneuvers went according to plan. The enemy did not offer significant resistance; with the exception of scattered parts, he must have moved from the west bank of the Don to the east. During the day, the forest area to the south and south-east of Urvanka was cleared up to Klin, the 3 battalion to the east of Kamenka reached its goals for that day in the factory area of ​​Bobriki-Donskoy.

[Hasn't German intelligence figured out that there were no Soviet troops in this area? The main forces of the 239 Rifle Division had moved eastward on the night from 24 to 25 in November, leaving strong cover groups at this turn, which took the fight to 25 in November.]

As a result, the 167 Infantry Division was located between Urvanka — Stalinogorsk (in the north) and Donskoy — Bobrika — Klin (in the south) on the entire west bank of the Don; By evening, the military guard had already been set up near the two bridges across the Don near Ivan-Ozer to the east.

Nevertheless, the division’s combat readiness has declined significantly due to heavy losses in recent days and lack of rest. The infantrymen were waiting for the moment when finally they would be left alone, at least for a while; they were exhausted and dead tired - in short, fully prepared. The division headquarters also expected a respite and expected that the 29 motorized division from the east and parts of the 4 tank division from the north should now compress the encirclement ring. In the end, the main burden of the fighting fell on the 167 Infantry Division. But again, everything happens quite differently.

Russian prisoners for food.

Backstab Siberians

In the evening of November 26, 1941, at the command post of the 167 Infantry Division in Nodal, after the turbulent day hours, it also became quiet. In the dim light of the gasoline oil lamp, the coherent messengers tiredly nodded, nothing more urgent was there. In 23: 20 rattled the field telephone. Urgent conversation with the headquarters of the [53 Army] Corps! Captain Behnke [German: Boehnke], who took over the duties of the head of the operations department of the 167 Infantry Division. At the other end, the head of the operational department of the corps, colonel of the general staff Veger, introduced himself. Waeger]:

Mr. Benke, the situation has completely unexpectedly changed! We intercepted the Russian army order, according to which the enemy in front of the front of the 29 motorized infantry division intends to break through in the direction of Ozerka. Your division must with all available units strike behind the retreating enemy, attack from behind and thereby prevent the enemy from breaking through to the northeast!

"Now this, too ..." thought Captain Behnke. “Right now, when people were hoping for a fully deserved rest!” Then he woke the division commander. Slowly, both of them above the unfolded map evaluated the situation, how can the hull task be accomplished.

Both officers quickly finished with their assessment of the situation: to execute an order to prosecute the enemy, there is only one 339 infantry regiment exhausted by battles, since according to temporal and spatial calculations both 331 and 315 infantry regiments could only go too late to the opponent from their current positions. But could the 339 Infantry Regiment in its current state be capable of this new effort with the expectation of success?

In order to clarify this, a telephone conversation between the division commander and the commander of the 23 Infantry Regiment [Major Grosser] took place on 45: 339. Major Grosser could say little that was good: the difficulties would be extremely great - now, after the order was already issued on 27 November to hold the current boundaries. In addition, completely exhausted people can hardly be moved forward. At night, they have even less rest than during the day, because people cannot follow each other in companies that have 35 left, because every person is involved.

Under such circumstances, Major General Trirenberg [him: Trierenberg] agrees with his chief of operations, that the order given can hardly be executed. This position should be immediately reported to the corps headquarters.

[Major General Wolf-Günther Trirenberg (Ger. Wolf-Günther Trierenberg; 18 June 1891 - 25 July 1981) - from 11 August 1941, commanded the 167 Infantry Division. 10 May 1943 was awarded the Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross, the supreme order of the Third Reich, for the skilful leadership of the division.

Major Justus Behnke (Justus Boehnke) - Head of Operations of the 167 Infantry Division from December 15 1941. In the period of the battles of Stalinogorsk he served as the head of the operations department.

Kurt Weger (German Kurt Waeger; February 6 1893 - June 18 1952) - Chief of Operations Division of the 53 Army Corps, Colonel of the General Staff.]

In 0: 10 [27 in November 1941, the Chief of Operations] captain Bencke calls the corps headquarters, and he connects with Colonel General Staff Weger. Captain Behnke: “Despite the fact that solutions have already been found in many difficult situations, in this case the solution has not yet been found, since it is almost impossible to overcome difficulties with exhausted parts in accordance with the allotted time and terrain specificity.”

To which Colonel Weger responds: "The divisions are allowed to use the bridge at Bobriki before the 112 Infantry Division."

“This is a complete underestimation of the real situation,” Benke said in his head. Which bridge is the most insignificant obstacle in the way of a throw to the northeast. And he objected: "Despite this, the troops will not be able to launch an attack before dawn, since the artillery will have to be advanced into positions along undiscovered paths."

Up to this point, with growing irritation, the conversation was listened to [by the commander of the 167 Infantry Division], Major General Trierenberg. Now he grabbed the headphones from his chief of operations and continued the conversation himself: “You can give an order to follow the instructions, but if people can cope and if they can speak, I don’t know, but we will irrevocably destroy our troops.”

There was silence for a while, then came the answer from Colonel Weger: “Yes, we have to try, and if people say that you can grab cannons as a trophy ...”

The division commander did not hold back his indignation: “It’s all the same to the soldiers, they want to get some sleep in the end ...” But Major General Trierenberg could not help his anger either. An order is an order; as part of the overall situation will have to demand from the personnel the impossible.

The division order No. 117 of November 27 of 1941 of the year defined:

"1) According to the intercepted order of the [Soviet 50 th] army, an enemy of an unspecified number of November 27 breaks out from the Spasskoye-Olkhovets area through Ozerki to the north ...
2) The 167 Infantry Division is to strike on November 27 with all available forces from the Ivan-Ozero area in the direction of Ozerka from behind at this enemy in order to carry out its final destruction ...
3) For this, the 315 Infantry Regiment with its reinforced battalion captures Shirino and neutralizes a possible threat from the enemy to the right flank of the 339 Infantry Regiment. At least one company of another battalion should be advanced to cover east to Ogarevo.
Ogarevo should be reached no later than 10: 00, Width - no later than 11: 00 - if possible, as early as possible. The rest of the regiment keeps the defense on the Don in the same area ... "

In the first echelon of the 315 Infantry Regiment, the 1 Battalion marched, attacking first; The 2 and 3 battalions of the 315 November Infantry Regiment 27 remained in their defensive positions.

The attack develops rapidly. Around 14: 00 The 331 Infantry Regiment occupied Olkhovets, and already in 15: 25 the enemy before the 167 Infantry Division in the Spasskoe-Olkhovets area was stopped after the initial resistance and was captured or destroyed.

The units of the 315 Infantry Regiment, which took part in the fighting and advanced beyond the Don, reached the Kozhanka-Ogaryo-Shirino-Trosnikovo area (2 km east of Shirino), the regiment command post in Ogaryovo.

Numerous prisoners and extensive trophies are the result of today: 10-12 batteries of all calibres, 15-20 light and medium tanks, several anti-tank guns, rifle weapons, light and heavy machine guns, 30 field kitchens, many rented cars and other military equipment.

1) Set on fire the Russian village. Supposedly, the burning village of Spasskoye, or the village of Olkhovets (now in the city of Novomoskovsk as a part of the municipality), after the fighting with the 239 Infantry Division, 26-28, 1941 breaking through from the environment.
2) The commander of the 7 Company of the 2 Battalion of the 331 Infantry Regiment of the 167 Infantry Division, Lieutenant Gerhard Mokros 27 November 1941 of the year at the photo session in Stalinogorsk-1. In the background - the house "under the tower" in the center of Stalinogorsk.

Absolutely impossible, but incomplete victory at Stalinogorsk

"The impossible was impossible for the troops to do their utmost and were rewarded for their endless tensions with a result that can be justly proud of," as the 167 Infantry Division noted in the combat magazine. The commander of the 53 Army Corps noted the result achieved in the following order of Corps No. 69 from 28 in November 1941 of the year:

"Soldiers of the 167 Infantry Division!" Once again, the brave 167 Infantry Division attached the victory to their banners. In the snow and frost with extraordinary efforts and sacrifices, she heroically knocked the surrounded enemy from its fortifications. After the warm victory at Stalinogorsk! In addition to numerous prisoners, only 44 guns and about 20 tanks were in our hands. Gratitude and gratitude to you, your brave soldiers, who got a new victory of the 53 Army Corps in battle. Greater joy and you could not deliver your radiant commander. Forward to the final victory! Weisenberger.

These words of appreciation are fully true. Marines literally squeezed out of themselves the last to achieve complete victory. But still, despite their sacrifices, the victory was incomplete, since the main forces of the surrounded Siberian 239 Infantry Division could, even if leaving all their tools and vehicles, escape to the east. The units of the 29 Motorized Infantry Division there were numerically just too weak to prevent this. Excellently equipped, with white fur lined camouflage suits and even with a white-coated weapon, already at night on November 27, the Siberians again also suddenly attacked a few environmental forces, destroyed everything and eventually fought their way east between the 2 71 battalion Infantry Regiment and 1 Battalion 15 Infantry Regiment. Both battalions of the 29 Motorized Infantry Division suffered heavy casualties.

The burnt down equipment of the German 29 motorized infantry division in the village of Novo-Yakovlevka after the night battle of 27 November 1941 of the year, during which the main forces of the Soviet 239 rifle division broke from the ring of encirclement under Stalinogorsk and went east to Pronsk (Ryazan region).

Guderian himself simply could not understand how this could happen. At first, he believed that the cause of the failure was negligence in the conduct of reconnaissance and combat protection, and in order to clarify, 27 November personally went to the location of the most affected 71 infantry regiment. However, from reports on the spot, he quickly realized that the troops had fulfilled their duty and were destroyed only because of their numerical superiority. Even more than words, this was confirmed by the numerous bodies lying in the snow in a protective uniform, still clutching their weapons in their frozen hands.

Major-General Trierenberg and his chief of operations were right, as they warned in a night telephone conversation with the headquarters of the [53 Army] Corps, that the 167 Infantry Division would come too late ...


28 and 29 November The 315 Infantry Regiment was still in the reached area of ​​Ogaryovo-Shirino, combing the area in search of scattered Russians, as well as trophies, to ensure their safety and take under protection.

The advance to Venev began on November 30 of the year 1941. After passing through Olkhovets, the 315 th infantry regiment reached the area of ​​the village of Belkolodez, where the regiment command post and the 3 battalion were located. The 1 Battalion will stop east of here at Vyselky, the 2 Battalion will continue north to Savino. On the march through the village of Olkhovets, the infantrymen presented an impressive picture of destruction. In complete disorder, partly burned and destroyed by the explosions were hundreds of Russian trucks, many tanks, tractors and guns left by the Siberian 239 th infantry division at the breakthrough. And as before, under similar circumstances, the infantrymen asked themselves how, with such terrible losses in men and equipment, the Russians always again manage to throw new forces against the advancing German forces. Is this country really inexhaustible?

Memorial complex "Siberian Warriors" in Novomoskovsk ... no.
In the Lenin-Snegiryovsky Military History Museum, pos. Snegiri Istrinsky district of Moscow region.
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  1. Same lech
    Same lech 1 December 2017 06: 17
    I always read such articles with interest ... it is important to evaluate the battles not only from our side, but also from the side he he innocently killed Germans stormed the position of the Siberians.
    I am proud of my fellow countrymen ... the staff of this division was replenished with recruits from Novosibirsk and Krasnoyarsk ...

    eh, it’s a pity that it was not me who spoke to the Germans instead of Kolya from Urengoy ... they would have learned a lot of interesting and unprintable things about themselves what .
    1. avva2012
      avva2012 1 December 2017 08: 31
      oh sorry that I did not speak to the Germans instead of Kolya from Urengoy ..

      Oh, how much I like this demotivator!
  2. moskowit
    moskowit 1 December 2017 07: 37
    How did this happen? The already mentioned N. S. Chumichyov names four reasons that robbed the city of military glory. But there is also a fifth: the majority of the townspeople living in it do not care at all. "A man of a restless heart", a Novomoskovsky local historian Chumichev has long died, and now completely different trends are in fashion.

    Here ... And there is such a “battered” proverb that there are no irreplaceable ones ... There is! ... The Leader was right "Cadres decide everything."
    And I’m even confident that the city authorities breathed a sigh of relief when such a Person left .... N. Chumachev did not mention yet another reason for the indifference to the historical past of his native city. This is the marginality of officials and city authorities ... Often, people who come or are appointed to manage regional structures are outsiders. And they are deeply indifferent to the history of cities and settlements that have their historical identity. It is good that there are still ascetics like N.I. Chumachev ... Glory to them and success in opening and studying the historical pages of their Small Homelands ....
    1. moskowit
      moskowit 1 December 2017 07: 55
      As Novomoskovsk ethnographer N. Chumichev noted back in the 1970s, “if Novomoskovsk’s labor achievement was marked by the Order of the Red Banner of Labor, then the military period of the city had not been studied for more than 30 years, and the residents were used to the fact that did not happen and in the underground no one was left. And this is fraught with great troubles in the upbringing of the younger generation. ”

      Here's what I managed to find about this ....
      By the decision of the regional committee of the CPSU, in the event of prolonged occupation, a partisan detachment of 50 men was formed in the city under the command of the deputy director of the Stalinogorsk state district power station M.P. Korostelev. After the Germans captured Stalinogorsk, the occupation regime was established, which, according to the historian V.I.Sedugin characterized by cruelty to the local population. In the very first days, many Stalinogorsk patriots were shot. In the city center, next to the Palace of Culture on Moskovskaya Street, the Communists Khrobishchev and Breikin were hanged on a pole. On the contrary, on the same street in the basement of the house under the "tower" is a prison of the fascist commandant’s office.

      However, resistance was not suppressed. For sabotage and reconnaissance activities during the period of temporary occupation of the city, the 4th department of the NKVD Directorate of the Tula Region created an underground organization, “Death to Fascism!”, Small partisan groups operated in the city and the region. The organization was led by Mikhail Stepanovich Serafimovich (“Batya”), the chief of staff was Konstantin Vasilyevich the Immortals (on November 30 he was captured and hanged by the field assistant at Maklets station). The battle group of workers and local residents was led by Ivan Sarychev. In addition, an underground Komsomol organization operated in the city.

      During the 17 days of occupation, the underground carried out a number of successful operations, although they themselves suffered losses. In particular, on the night of November 27, two tanks were destroyed at the Maklets station, and a lieutenant and a soldier were killed. On the evening of December 7, the battle group burned with four members of the crew two wedges that plowed around the village of Maklets. On December 10, the underground activists Noskova and Ivanova crossed the front line and informed the headquarters of the 1 Guards Cavalry Corps about the location of enemy firing points and minefields.

      1. Stalinogorsk 1941
        1 December 2017 20: 31
        Well, Wikipedia writes about this, but not in official documents. For example, the same Immortals are still not immortalized in the mass grave, where he is buried ... And where the communists Khrobishchev and Breikin are buried - even Wikipedia does not know.
  3. parusnik
    parusnik 1 December 2017 07: 59
    They say we have a very strange patriotism. Not true! In fact, he is scary. Cardboard, showy, blatant, cheap. Whatever, just not real. And in this he is just terrible - in his deceit.
    ... That's right, there is nothing special to add .. Thank you for publishing this article .. Bookmarked. I’ll tell you in my memoirs about the Moscow battle ...
  4. avva2012
    avva2012 1 December 2017 08: 12
    “Soldiers of the 167th Infantry Division! Again the brave 167-I Infantry Division attached ...

    German prisoners from the 315-th regiment of the 167-th infantry division, captured by the troops of the Bryansk Front (a little later).
    In battles near Bobruisk and Rogachev, about 5000 people were lost, in the area of ​​Pochep-do 20% of the remaining composition. 3 at the same time received replenishment to 1500 people. Later, in the battles in the Teplovo and Volovo areas, the division again lost up to 70% of its composition (7000 people) and was forced to withdraw to the Mtsensk region, where, after putting in order, it took up defense on the western bank of the river. Oka. In the early days of March, I received a replenishment, two marching battalions in the amount of up to (1300 people). One of them was formed in Germany from reservist soldiers and workers reserved for the German military industry. In February 1944 of the year it was defeated as part of Army Group South. The remainder of the division as a division of the 167 infantry division is included in the 376 infantry division. Restored in October 1944 year as the 167-th Volksgrenadier division. It was defeated in April-May of the 1945 year.
    1. Stalinogorsk 1941
      1 December 2017 20: 28
      By the way, the German 29 motor-infantry division mentioned in the article, which surrounded the Siberians near Stalingorsk from the east, exactly one year later, in November 1942, was itself surrounded and defeated near Stalingrad. Incidentally, the very one about which Russian boys and girls in the Bundestag are now worrying about innocently killed Germans ...
      1. avva2012
        avva2012 2 December 2017 04: 12
        These children knew what they were writing about.
  5. XII Legion
    XII Legion 1 December 2017 08: 38
    Interesting and detailed.
    Thank you!
  6. BAI
    BAI 1 December 2017 09: 31
    : Franz Mayrhofer, Hrsg. Kameradschaft ehem. Gren.Rgt. 315: Geschichte des Grenadier-Regiment 315 der bayrischen 167. Inf. Div. - Almhütten-Division - 1939-1944, München 1975.

    The Germans (veterans of this Bavarian division) very specifically describe the events of the end of November 1941 and speak very highly of the defenders of Stalinogorsk - Siberian fighters of the 239th Infantry Division, "the military power of this Soviet elite unit has repeatedly done serious harm."

    Not every city can arrange Sevastopol. Even if they surrendered - what are the claims to the soldiers? Minsk, Kalinin and many other cities passed almost without a fight, but there are no complaints against their defenders. And then why make some noise? Firstly, they surrendered in battle, and secondly, the circumstances were that way.
    You can blame the command of the 3rd army for something, but the 3rd army was also surrounded, not only by its division.
  7. Ivan Tartugai
    Ivan Tartugai 1 December 2017 10: 22
    Quote from the article:
    "How did this happen? The already mentioned N. S. Chumichev names four reasons that took the city’s fame away from the city. But there is also a fifth: ..."

    Not unimportant reason, that his military glory was taken away from him and in his name - Stalinogorsk.
    Khrushchev and his team put a lot of effort into striking out the name of Stalin IV from history. In order for everyone to accept that there was no Stalin, there was no IV, there was some petty party official, lived in Moscow, worked in the Central Committee and that’s all.
    They even tried to write less about the Battle of Stalingrad, and if they wrote, they tried to mention the name of the city less. In the memoirs, the name Stalin IV was replaced by "Headquarters". They called from Stavka, talked on the phone with Stavka, received support from Stavka, received a reprimand from Stavka, listened to comments from Stavka, etc.
    And here again to mention the name of Stalin IV in the name of the city of Stalinogorsk did not fit into the plans of the Khrushchev team about the complete oblivion of the name of Stalin IV. And then the youth of Novomoskovsk (Stalinogorsk) will begin to be interested, asking, who is this Stalin IV, what is such a magnitude that their city was named after him.
    Therefore, for the Khrushchev team it is better to “forget” the military history of Stalinogorsk.
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 1 December 2017 19: 18
      Quote: Ivan Tartugay
      And here again to mention the name of Stalin IV in the name of the city of Stalinogorsk did not fit into the plans of the Khrushchev team about the complete oblivion of the name of Stalin IV.

      But the IS-2 tank still stands with us.
      1. Stalinogorsk 1941
        1 December 2017 20: 19
        Yeah, a tank in honor of the 9th Tank Brigade that liberated the city. But for the Siberians there was no place.
      2. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 1 December 2017 20: 22
        Quote: Mordvin 3
        But the IS-2 tank still stands with us.

        It stands on Diagonal Mountain. soldier
        And in the Dedilovsky Settlements, I personally found two disks from the PPSh and a bayonet from the mosquito.
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 1 December 2017 20: 32
          Quote: Stalinogorsk 1941
          Yeah, a tank in honor of the 9th Tank Brigade that liberated the city. But for the Siberians there was no place.

          Throughout Venevka, obelisks stand for them, In Torkhovo, Anishino, in Dedlovo, in the direction of Novomoskovsk there is a huge Barrow of Glory ..., in Leninsky there are two burials ... True, the Eternal Flame used to burn everywhere, but now ...
          1. Stalinogorsk 1941
            1 December 2017 20: 48
            Kireevsky mound of glory, Anishino, Dedilovo - this is in memory of the 299 and Siberian 413.
            Specifically, for the Uzlovaya, Donskoy and Novomoskovsk, the 239 rifle fought. About her not even everywhere on mass graves memory remained.
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 1 December 2017 21: 04
              Quote: Stalinogorsk 1941
              About her not even everywhere on mass graves memory remained.

              To our shame, we generally do not know much about the defense of our native land.
              For example, near the entrance of the Stamp factory named after Vannikov, after the war, thirty-four were installed in memory of the crew burned down during the fighting. The tank was delivered for repair with the crew ... The crew was buried near the checkpoints, and the tank, after repair, went to the front.
              only, who now remembers this?
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 1 December 2017 21: 50
                Quote: Stroporez
                To our shame, we generally do not know much about the defense of our native land.

                And I honestly tried to search. Found about the defense of Tula, but about Stalinogorsk-no. I was looking poorly, probably, the land was more persistent. Well, a peaceful tractor was lifted for almost 50 years, although everyone knew where it sank.
                1. Sling cutter
                  Sling cutter 1 December 2017 22: 01
                  Quote: Mordvin 3
                  Well, a peaceful tractor was lifted for almost 50 years, although everyone knew where it sank.

                  Wow!!! Tractor class! I did not know about this ....
                2. iury.vorgul
                  iury.vorgul 2 December 2017 09: 26
                  Well, thank you. He himself was going to lay out everything, but his hands did not reach. I also had the journal Technika-youth with an article about the rise, and the photo on the square when it was still not renovated was a pity, everything was lost when moving in the 90s.
                  1. Mordvin 3
                    Mordvin 3 2 December 2017 10: 16
                    Quote: iury.vorgul
                    sorry, everything was lost when moving to 90's.

                    There’s a video on the net
                    1. iury.vorgul
                      iury.vorgul 2 December 2017 14: 38
                      And somewhere on this shoot there is me too. At that time I was standing in a police cordon at the Mass grave and I saw all this myself. Only this is May 1987, and not 1988th.
                    2. iury.vorgul
                      iury.vorgul 2 December 2017 14: 41
                      The police lieutenant colonel at the 22nd minute of filming is the deputy chief of the GOVD for operations, Shkitin.
                      1. Stalinogorsk 1941
                        2 December 2017 17: 49
                        Especially for you:
        2. basmach
          basmach 2 December 2017 01: 26
          Hi Valera. About 6-7 years ago, with the guys in the old cemetery (behind the Barsky hospital), we did excavations. According to local information, 4 soldier was buried. 4 people raised the remains, lay a “jack” on one hand, was thrown to the side and lay on top of the other. They buried, apparently, in their underwear, there was nothing out of clothes. We found a button from the underpants, a piece of a leather bracelet (watch or compass) and a strip of metal (possibly in the cap of a cap) with a tuft of hair (in green). Two of them had skull cranks (one on the right and the other on the left) inside one broken one they found a metal round disk, presumably the bottom of the mine .. Two guys raised it from the former village of Nyukhovka. Presumably a sanitary burial place (like there was a medical battalion). Part of the greatcoat was preserved there. All were reburied.

          Not so long ago, a bust gene was installed. Belov.
          The very Far Eastern division, the 239th Infantry Division, became part of the 50 Army on the 18 of November 1941 of the year, then it was part of the 10 Army, the 1 Army of the Guards Cavalry Corps and the 31 Army of January 1942 is again part of the 50 Army.

          It began to form in the second half of March, 1941 in Voroshilov, and by May 1 it was formed as the 239th motorized division, which included: 11th Infantry Regiment of the former 4th Separate Rifle Brigade, which was numbered - 313th Motorized regiment, regiment from the former 5-th separate rifle brigade - 317-th motorized regiment, 112-th tank regiment, formed from the former 42-th separate tank brigade.

          Before leaving for the Western Front, the division was stationed in Voroshilov and was part of the troops of the 1th Red Banner Army of the Far Eastern Front.

          In the early days of August 1941, the division was reorganized into the 239 rifle division, consisting of: 817 rifle regiment (formerly motorized regiment), 813 th motorized regiment moved to the 112 th brigade, instead of which it was formed from the stock of Novosibirsk region and Krasnoyarsk Territory 813th Infantry Regiment, the 239th Infantry Regiment was formed from the same contingents. The 112th Tank Regiment was reorganized into the 112th Tank Division.

          In September, the newly reformed division moved from Voroshilov to Khorol (65-70 km) towards the state border, occupied the Khorolsky fortified sector (instead of the 26th rifle division that had gone to the front), continuing combat training and work to strengthen the Khorolsky fortified sector .

          On 22 on October 1941, the division left for the Western Front; on the way, it landed in Kuibyshev to participate in the parade.

          On November 11 of November 1941, it left for Ryazan, part of the trains was sent to Uzlovaya station and on November 17-18 the division was completely concentrated in Uzlovaya, where it was subordinated to the commander of the 3 Army, and on November 18 of the 1941 year it was reassigned to the commander of the 50 Army.
          And further. During a breakthrough in the Kimovsk region, units of the division stumbled upon a German headquarters convoy (with a large number of replenishment officers) and destroyed it completely.According to local (formerly children) Germans 2 buried their day) This cemetery was demolished a year in 43. But I can not vouch for the reliability of these data
          1. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 2 December 2017 13: 23
            Quote: basmach
            But I can not vouch for the reliability of these data

            The defense of Tula has enough unexplored facts. For example, there is evidence of eyewitnesses of how the advanced Germans approached the Tula Kremlin, practically to the Arms Plant. Just after this, the formation of the Tula Workers' Regiment began, which took up defense in the area of ​​the current Central Park and the Arsenal stadium. The working regiment was armed with the weapons that they themselves practically produced at the Weapons Factory and the Stamp Plant. And then someone remembered that the experimental batch of the experimental Korovin system submachine gun was stored in the warehouses. The photographs depicting the soldiers of the Tula working regiment , weapons are quite diverse: self-loading SVT rifles, Shpagin submachine gun, Mosin rifles. Korovinsky machine is not in any picture. Perhaps it was impossible to take pictures with the “new” machine for reasons of secrecy. Although, we can assume that the Germans in those battles probably captured samples of these weapons. And some Hans got the Iron Cross for such a trophy ... After the departure of the full-blooded division, the city seemed to be orphaned and the remaining residents and troops, whose forces were very insignificant, became really creepy. October 29 at 10.00 after artillery preparation, the force with up to two battalions, with supporting tanks and attack aircraft, which operated directly on the battlefield, attacked the positions of the 290th Infantry Division north of Shchekin. The defense was broken through, and by 11.00 the German tanks were already approaching Yasnaya Polyana. In the afternoon, the German avant-garde approached Diagon Mountain. The enemy was building up a blow, and by the end of the day about a hundred German tanks were already operating on the breakthrough front. Busy Ivanovo cottages, Novobasovo, station "Podzemgaz". In truth, it should be noted that Yasnaya Polyana and Kosaya Gora were surrendered by the 290th Infantry Division of Colonel Revyakin and the 31st Cavalry Division of Colonel Pivnev without a fight. German tankers were already looking at the sights of tower guns in the southern quarters of Tula. But at first they had to go through the positions of the Tula working regiment, the remnants of our divisions and suppress the fire of the 732th anti-aircraft artillery regiment. A decisive battle for Tula was brewing.
  8. polpot
    polpot 1 December 2017 18: 42
    By the way, the division is far from elite, it was formed in the spring of 1941 in the Far East, after the outbreak of war, Siberian draftees were added, the elite are 1 Moscow Proletarskaya and 25 Chapaevskaya, Siberian peasants just called up by their snot gave eternal memory to them.
    1. Stalinogorsk 1941
      1 December 2017 20: 49
      Quote: polpot
      By the way, the division is far from elite

      n-yes, but the Germans didn’t think so ...
      1. polpot
        polpot 1 December 2017 21: 17
        The Germans were pissed off from the usual infantry to get around their necks, and they fantasized, they were so cool and Siberian men did, of course, no elite
        1. Stalinogorsk 1941
          1 December 2017 21: 33
          Maybe you are right. The backbone of the reservists who passed Hassan and Khalkhin-Gol. In addition, fully armed, equipped, and even with about 40 light and medium tanks. Morally, there was a high morale - because they also passed on November 7 in ceremonial boxes in front of foreign diplomatic representatives in Kuibyshev, vowed to Kalinin and Voroshilova to defend their homeland.
          True, the real situation at the front was shocking:
          3) Moral state: At the time of entering the battle, the state was good. On November 7, the division took part in the parade in Samara and was glorified there. The situation was portrayed in a favorable light. - The first combat days caused a serious panic due to the participation in the battles of German tanks [the German 4th Panzer Division]. The actual situation in the area of ​​hostilities greatly disappointed the troops. They began to complain about the lack of food supply. For fear of being shot no one surrenders.

          the Germans, however, recorded everything ...
  9. Cat Marquis
    Cat Marquis 1 December 2017 19: 38
    I am always struck by the enumeration in the memoirs and memoirs of the Germans of the enumeration of numerous captured Soviet soldiers and officers and numerous, seized stocks of weapons, equipment, ammunition depots, etc. It doesn’t seem strange that the Soviet troops are desperately fighting in some few places, in others everyone threw and fled ...
    1. Aviator_
      Aviator_ 1 December 2017 20: 04
      About our captured weapons
      [/ quote] On the march through Olkhovets, the infantrymen presented an impressive picture of destruction. Hundreds of Russian trucks, many tanks, tractors and guns left by the Siberian 239th Infantry Division during the breakthrough were in complete disarray, partially burned and destroyed by explosions.
      And it was said above
      only in our hands were 44 guns and about 20 tanks. [quote]

      It is not clear from the text of the German article whether our abandoned and exploded equipment was listed as trophies when breaking out of the encirclement or not?
      1. Cat Marquis
        Cat Marquis 1 December 2017 20: 08
        The Germans had such "blown up" equipment in such enormous quantities that it was given "German" nomenclature names and even established the release of ammunition for it. In the USSR, this was not the case with German technology, well, with the exception of some samples of self-propelled guns converted from it
        1. Aviator_
          Aviator_ 1 December 2017 20: 45
          The Soviet Army also used widely captured weapons, especially after the 1943 year, in general, after the battlefield began to remain with us. He himself wrote about self-propelled guns based on the T-IV. And about the really exploded equipment, the Nazis let slip in an article, overlooked.
          1. Ivan Tartugai
            Ivan Tartugai 2 December 2017 18: 30
            Quote: Aviator_
            In the Soviet Army also used wide trophy weapons

            Well, "broadly" is said loudly, i.e. it is written.
            The widespread use of German technology in the Red Army was not. But the Germans really widely used Soviet technology. For example, 76 mm guns of Grabin F-22 USV alone in the frontier warehouses in the early days of the war captured more than 1500 new in oil thanks to the "agility" of our generals. And then they captured a lot, but they were already in use. A little modernized and fought on them back in 44.
            Many Soviet 122 mm howitzers, the best howitzers in the world, captured, organized the production of shells and fought on them until the end of the war. This is used wide.
            1. Aviator_
              Aviator_ 2 December 2017 19: 13
              The advantage of the first blow, you can’t get anywhere from this.
              1. Ivan Tartugai
                Ivan Tartugai 2 December 2017 22: 04
                Quote: Aviator_
                First strike advantage from this not going anywhere.

                Of course. Now, if the Germans had sent a telephon to our generals in advance that they would attack, release the warehouses before June 22, 1941.
                Then our generals would be ... Although probably the generals still wouldn’t have time to give a command to withdraw, they would postpone it on Monday June 23, 1941, so as not to spoil their day off. Indeed, on Saturday, June 21, 1941, the capital's artists will give a concert, and then a banquet after midnight. There’s absolutely no time for warehouses, right no where to go.
                But the Germans may wait a couple of days with the onset.
            2. verner1967
              verner1967 2 December 2017 22: 10
              Quote: Ivan Tartugay
              The widespread use of German technology in the Red Army was not.

              I don’t know how about other equipment, but according to the GABTU report as of the end of the war, 10% of the automotive equipment was trophy
              1. Ivan Tartugai
                Ivan Tartugai 3 December 2017 08: 45
                Quote: verner1967
                According to the GABTU report, as of the end of the war, 10% of the automotive equipment was trophy

                At the end of the war it may very well be, but it was a passenger car for our generals. German passenger cars are more comfortable compared to our Gaz-61 and others.
                Although Zhukov, almost from the beginning of the war, rode a "ferret", which was taken from the garage of the German embassy, ​​can also be considered trophy.
                From the memoirs of the Zhukovsky driver Buchin:
                He took his time and went to Moscow, got to the garage, struggled his way inside and saw in a dusty box the all-terrain vehicle brand "ferret", which he immediately fell in love with. Seven-seater car with a powerful engine of 160 horsepower. Heating, windshield and rear window defroster.

                As befits a sophisticated car, the "ferret" turned out to be "burrowing", it took almost a day to drag it in tow in the courtyard of the garage before the car started up. Finally, the engine started working. Music! Restrained hum, valves are not audible. What can I say, German masters worked solidly. This all-terrain vehicle had a long life ahead of us - mainly G.K. Zhukov traveled along front-line roads for the next two years with a little.
                1. verner1967
                  verner1967 3 December 2017 14: 23
                  Quote: Ivan Tartugay
                  At the end of the war it may very well be, but it was a passenger car for our generals.

                  10% of our vehicles carried generals ????? Well, it was either little transport or a lot of generals laughing
                  1. Ivan Tartugai
                    Ivan Tartugai 3 December 2017 16: 57
                    Quote: verner1967
                    or many generals

                    There were a lot of generals.
                    And the vast majority of them are naturally with general ambitions. Not all, but most, many large.
                    For example, General Sokolovsky’s chief of staff of the 1st Belorussky had a garage of captured cars. And when he returned to Russia, he took ten cars out of him for personal use. And what to do as a general of the army requires to be on the level. Well, Sokolovsky is certainly a quantity, but lower generals also had two, three or more captured cars. They have their own general position. One has a daughter, another has a new wife, he wants to have a car too. Well, do not ride her on a tram with everyone. laughing
                    In the 50s he himself saw in Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan the military still had many trophy cars, mainly Opel brands. Freight is not a single one.
                    1. verner1967
                      verner1967 3 December 2017 17: 22
                      Quote: Ivan Tartugay
                      There were a lot of generals.
                      discord to the general, do not confuse the divisional commander with the confront. And far from all of them were at the feeding trough and had the ambitions of the flea marketer Zhukov or Sokolovsky.
                      The fleet of the Red Army during the war continuously increased and amounted to 1.05.1945 664 vehicles as of 455/XNUMX/XNUMX ...

                      Taken from: Report of the Supply Department of the GAVTU KA on work for the period of the Great Patriotic War on September 28, 1945
                      by simple arithmetic, we get 66445 pieces what did the Germans do so much? In the segment of luxury and premium ??
                      Quote: Ivan Tartugay
                      In the 50s he himself saw in Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan the military still had many trophy cars, mainly Opel brands. Freight is not a single one.
                      do not confuse a passenger car with a truck. Trucks in the national economy were used until they were completely worn in the tail and in the mane, and passenger cars more and more in private stores and oblast garages
                      1. Ivan Tartugai
                        Ivan Tartugai 3 December 2017 18: 21
                        Quote: verner1967
                        discord to the general, do not confuse the divisional commander with the confront.

                        General, he is a general in divisions.
                        Of course, Zhukov’s feeder cannot be compared with the commander’s feeder. Each has his own level, but also at the level of the divisional officer, there is an easy option for the general to have a personal trophy car, these are not comrades, but still a divisional. The division has a motor battalion, a general trophy car and you can attach there for a while.

                        Quote: verner1967
                        Trucks in the national economy were used until complete wear in the tail and mane,

                        We have an industrial district - a metallurgical plant, a chemical plant, coal mines, and mechanical engineering. Naturally, and construction. All of them used GAZ-MM - one and a half tails, ZISy - Zakhary, Ural-ZISy, including Ural-firewood on a gas-generating engine, in tail and mane. Neither saw the captured German trucks, nor heard from the elderly. By the way, there were no German automobile cars at directors of mines, factories, enterprises either. They were only among the military, both personal and personal.
        2. polpot
          polpot 1 December 2017 21: 13
          You are right, they took a lot of food in the border districts
        3. Ivan Tartugai
          Ivan Tartugai 2 December 2017 18: 47
          Quote: Cat Marquis
          The Germans had this "blown up" technique in such huge quantities,

          In his report on trophies, the commander of the 45th AP, General Schlieper, after taking Brest, wrote that the following were captured:
          c) vehicles:
          36 tanks and tracked vehicles, about 1500 cars, in most unsuitable.

          Even if only the third part will be suitable, and this division was captured by 500 vehicles by June 29, 1941, in seven days. This is a lot.
          And on our one-and-a-half and ZIS-5 and fought 42 years.
          The photo shows that the Germans attached their numbers and drove.
      2. Stalinogorsk 1941
        1 December 2017 20: 25
        It is not known for sure. Most likely, everyone counted as trophies. In this case, it is extremely unlikely that the Siberians left the equipment intact.
        1. Ivan Tartugai
          Ivan Tartugai 2 December 2017 19: 44
          Quote: Stalinogorsk 1941
          In this case, it is extremely unlikely that the Siberians left the equipment intact.

          The Siberians certainly did not abandon, but the Siberians have commanders. But commanders are different.
          Here is the real commander Major Kravchenko II, commander of the 956th Infantry Regiment of the 299th SD. When the division was surrounded, Kravchenko didn’t abandon the regiment, which had thinned out after heavy fighting, did not lose control of the regiment, but in an organized manner left the encirclement. Here is one episode from the memoirs of the chief of staff of the regiment Benzel VA.
          We were lucky. Someone threw 4 operational anti-tank guns and shells. We collected the riding horses of the command on the orders of Kravchenko and took these guns. Now the regiment is fully armed. Kravchenko ordered to distribute part of the products to the soldiers, and load the carts with the ammunition found in the forest.

          But another commander threw these guns with shells.
          1. Stalinogorsk 1941
            2 December 2017 20: 09
            Ah, in November of the 41, Major Kravchenko was in Tula, and not near Stalinogorsk with his 299 SD. But who knows, if he had stayed with the division, Tula would have survived ...
            1. Ivan Tartugai
              Ivan Tartugai 2 December 2017 21: 50
              Quote: Stalinogorsk 1941
              But who knows, if he had stayed with the division, Tula would have survived ...

              The 299 rifle division actually ceased to exist in October 1941. Only Kravchenko’s regiment remained from the division. As a compound in the defense of Tula did not participate.
              From the memoirs of Benzel VA:
              The commander and commissar of the "nonexistent" division arrived and then in divisions, except for our regiment of the 956th, there was nothing left. You can put together a consolidated company from the rest of the division.

              The division lived less than three months. Although it officially existed until December 3, 1941. Of course, if it participated in the defense of Tula it would be better. But alas, if only yes.
              1. Stalinogorsk 1941
                3 December 2017 12: 19
                The commanders of the 239 were withdrawn from the entourage of 9 thousand from 14,5 thousand people at the beginning of the fighting. And this is quite a lot. Organized, in three columns, with heavy fighting. The Germans are in shock.

                In the future, they will take an active part in the Tula offensive operation in December, in January of the 42th breakthrough through the Warsaw highway to the west, and in 1945, the 239th Red Banner Rifle Division will triumphantly end the war by participating in the Prague operation.

                By the way, when the commander-239 G.O. Martirosyan announced the order, the trace is attributed to him. words (it is not known for certain, maybe local historians came up with diaries; like Bentsel’s did not survive):
                Only a limp and cowardly commander under the guise of a “hopeless situation” can dissolve his unit to leave the environment in small groups, but in reality he throws his warriors, who believe him as a father, to the mercy of fate. This will not be together until the end. I decided to strike at the enemy and get out of the circle or die ...

                Well, 299 was essentially not destroyed by the Germans, but by its commander Seregin (whom Kravchenko had asked to be brought to justice, but he himself was eventually tried).
                “... The commander is Colonel S [yeregin]. - with counterrevolutionary wrecking goals, he directed all his efforts towards the destruction of the division, creating conditions for the command of the division’s units under which combat missions were not carried out, and at the same time, the units suffered heavy losses. ... For two months of participation of the SD in the war, he managed to completely destroy the 2 regiment (958 and 960), making every effort to destroy the 956 joint venture, which was still preserved, thanks to the close coordination of the political composition and my perseverance. Insolence C [yeregin]. reached the point that, in pursuit of the goal of liquidating the 956 joint venture, he ordered me to disengage from the command of the regiment for an apparently inaccurate division from 22.X.X. NUMX for allegedly inaccurate fulfillment of his orders and for the unauthorized supply of the regiment .... I ask you to remove the colonel With [yeregin]. from the post of division commander and bring to justice for the destruction of the division "


                And that makes a huge difference ...
                1. Ivan Tartugai
                  Ivan Tartugai 3 December 2017 13: 21
                  Quote: Stalinogorsk 1941
                  And that makes a huge difference ...

                  I agree a huge difference.
                  Seregin and "fought" further in the commanders of the divisions. He killed more than one thousand of our Soviet guys. However, he became a general. And how many such generals were in the Red Army. Probably hundreds, maybe thousands.
      3. polpot
        polpot 1 December 2017 21: 12
        See the states of rifle divisions of tanks for a long time nebylo and guns 76 mm and 122 mm 28 pieces in the state of August 1941
    2. GIN
      GIN 1 December 2017 20: 21
      So there were 50000 guns and 15000 tanks by then
  10. iury.vorgul
    iury.vorgul 3 December 2017 18: 06
    [b] Stalinogorsk 1941 [/ Thank you. I registered on the site.
    1. Stalinogorsk 1941
      3 December 2017 20: 44
      Glad to see you come back often :)
  11. verner1967
    verner1967 3 December 2017 18: 43
    Quote: Ivan Tartugay
    General, he is a general in divisions.
    Do not argue, 66 thousand cars for generals even in the Red Army are a bit much, all the more, in the same report of the GABTU, the models were indicated, I hope you don’t consider Opel Blitz a passenger car? And the fact that you have not seen German trucks is quite obvious. After the war, of course, they were withdrawn from service and, most likely, left in place to raise the local national economy, the benefit of spare parts and specialists was many. And we already had enough cars.