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Good boy Kohl from New Urengoy

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Good boy Kohl from New Urengoy



The 17-year-old youth rose to the rostrum of the Bundestag, cleared his throat, and began:

- Ladies and Gentlemen! My name is Nikolai Devyatnichenko, I study at the gymnasium of Novy Urengoy. I was invited to participate in a project dedicated to the soldiers who died during the Second World War. This made me very interested because I have been fond of since childhood. history and his country, and Germany. I was particularly interested in the fate of Hans Rauch, who was killed in the so-called. "Stalingrad boiler" ...

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The soldiers lay and waited for the command "to attack." The old fighter looked at the young lad to his right - he had the first fight.
- Do not drift, Fedor, break through. The main thing is not to be afraid and shoot first.
Fedor grabbed a clump of snow and put it in his dry mouth.
- And I'm not afraid.
The whistle sounded. “Ahhhh!” The boy shouted, got up and, clutching his rifle in his hands, rushed with the others to the house on the other side of the square.
Fedor ran across the square. It seemed to him that every bullet flies precisely into him. Fighters fell to his right and left, but he did not see it. Petrovich disappeared somewhere, encouraging him a minute ago.


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- I immediately began to look for relevant information. At first I visited the city archive and library, then I tried to find the history of German soldiers on the Internet and other sources. However, later, in cooperation with the People’s Union of Germany for the care of war graves, I learned and studied in detail the life history of Hans Johann Rauch.

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Fyodor jumped into the window opening, turned to the right and rushed down the corridor littered with broken bricks. He looked into the first doorway and saw a German. He leaned his chest on the window sill, he frantically twitched the bolt of his carbine and fired at the fleeing Soviet soldiers. As if sensing something, the German looked back and his face twisted in a grimace of horror: he saw his death.
Fyodor raised his rifle and pressed the trigger.


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- Hans Rauch was born in a large peasant family. Since childhood I have known hard work, I loved my brothers and sisters. He loved life and did not want to fight. He did not voluntarily find himself in Stalingrad. I sincerely grieve for the death of this young man and would like the bullet that cut off his life to fly past.

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And these words, clothed with energy shells, flew into the past. Punching year after year, decade after decade, they flew, flew ... That is the turn of the millennia. Swept past 90-e, 70-e, 50-ies of the XX century ... A wad of energy decreased in size and until January 1943, quite a small fire ball flew by. But his energy was quite enough to hit his lead ball to change his flight.

The bullet hit the brick wall. The Russian screamed and rushed at Hans with a rifle. Rauch put forward a carbine and fired.
For a few seconds he looked at the Russian lying at his feet, and then jumped into the window opening.

After landing, he ran along the wall and came across two Russians. Both raised their rifles.
Hans dropped the carbine and raised his hands.
- Niht Schissen! Hitler kaput!
“Of course, kaput,” one of the fighters said angrily, yet without lowering his rifle.
The second approached Hans and patted his pockets. Finding nothing, he pushed the captive in the back:
- Stamp, Fritz, and rejoice: the war has ended for you.

Fyodor was lying on his back, looking at the gray ceiling and felt how life was flowing out of it along with blood.
“Pretty, pretty, be patient,” the nurse whispered, unbuttoning his quilted jacket — I'll do everything now.
- Do not ... - Fedor whispered, - it’s in vain ...
“Well, now, I'll tie you up, then we will deliver to the hospital, they will quickly treat you,” the girl said in a patter.
- Sister, - Fedor whispered, - do not ... Better to kiss me ... The girl has never kissed me ...
The nurse carefully removed her helmet, leaned over, and her lips touched his lips.
The little snowflake, whirling, fell on the cheek of the soldier and did not melt.


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- In the so-called "Stalingrad boiler" German soldiers experienced terrible hardships, freezing, starving. Many of them died. These were the innocent victims of the war, and we have no right to forget about them. They are also worthy of memory.
The Bundestag deputies, one after another, stood up from their seats and unanimously stood and applauded the Russian youth.

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A small energy ball, which changed the flight of a bullet, flew back. Fedor did not reach Vienna and did not return home with two orders and two stripes for injuries. Lost in the new future Zoyka laughter - his daughter. A funny peasant Vovka was not born, Vovka did not grow up into a beautiful Volodka, Vladimir Nikolayevich did not start a family and his son Nikolay was not born.

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Proud of his mission, Nikolai smiled. But suddenly the smile on the face of the young Russian man was replaced by a grimace of pain - a bullet fired at 1943 by the good Hans Rauch hit him in the chest.

Gasping for breath, Nikolai leaned on the podium and looked with horror at his increasingly transparent hands. Already through them sheets with his printed speech are visible, now his hands have turned into barely visible contours. This left into oblivion the unborn great-grandson of a Russian soldier killed in Stalingrad.

And the Bundestag deputies all continued to clap their hands, and applauded the longest from the rostrum for honored guests Hans Rauch, a veteran and innocent victim of the Second World War, which the Soviet bullet passed in January 1943.
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  1. Grandfather
    Grandfather 27 November 2017 05: 56 New
    28
    this "boy" from Urengoy, the name is Kolya Wehrmacht.
    1. Finches
      Finches 27 November 2017 06: 01 New
      41
      Bulk - the beginning .... laughing

      However, it’s not funny - you need to take the authors of the history textbook for high school, take their “creation” and beat them on the head for a long time ... until it begins to reach the point that the Great Patriotic War cannot be stated in two sentences .. . However, unfortunately, how many heads from education you need to go through to change something .... Especially to the heads of those 90s when liberal pseudo-learned "historians" like Chubais’s brother reluctantly pushed each other with their elbows. the country's history for the sake of the West for a handout, and unscrupulous officials, like Fursenko they joyfully flowed ...
      1. siberalt
        siberalt 27 November 2017 06: 35 New
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        Yeah You're right. What textbooks, such and children. Here no law on school patriotism will help winked
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 27 November 2017 08: 02 New
          35
          In my school, a history teacher was a Jew. He managed to participate in the operation to capture Berlin by age. In addition, he was also a class teacher. He was a wonderful teacher and teacher. I was an excellent student and learned a lot from him, even just for life.

          So he told us about the situation that was on the way to the capture of Berlin.
          He said. We just enter the village, and there are almost no living souls. The knocked out German units did not leave a single living German soul. Fascist zealots killed all Germans - residents of the village who, physically for various reasons, could not leave the town or village or did not have time to hide from the Nazis. In each house, there were always corpses of shot civilians - old people, women and children, including infants - even before the arrival of the Red Army units.
          It was thus implemented the policy of the German "upper" - not to leave behind any witnesses among the Germans themselves, remembering Hitlerism, its shameful and logical rout and the crimes of the German fascists in WWII in a foreign land, especially in the USSR. According to Hitler and his entourage, a new generation of Germans was to begin their historical national memory with a white sheet.
          The German fascists would take with them the whole world to the grave, if that were possible.
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 27 November 2017 10: 19 New
            39
            It is noteworthy that it was a foreign organization, the NGO Friedrich Ebert Foundation, that allocated a grant for the study of World War II at the gymnasium No. 1 in Novy Urengoy, in which Nikolai Desyatnichenko was studying. The same fund paid for the trip of students to the graves, as well as to Germany.
            Meanwhile, according to law enforcement authorities, The Friedrich Ebert Foundation affiliates are representative offices of the German BND Intelligence.
            In addition, the Friedrich Ebert Foundation was previously banned in Belarus due to interference in the internal affairs of the state. The Turkish prosecutor’s office also issued similar conclusions.
            As a result, Gymnasium No.1 in Novy Urengoy can rightfully be recognized as a foreign agent.
            1. weksha50
              weksha50 27 November 2017 11: 57 New
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              Quote: Tatiana
              Meanwhile, according to law enforcement agencies, the branches of the Friedrich Ebert Foundation are representative offices of the German BND Intelligence.
              In addition, the Friedrich Ebert Foundation was previously banned in Belarus due to interference in the internal affairs of the state. Turkish prosecutors also issued similar conclusions.


              Hmm ... And ours, then, did not even hear about this? The tradition is fresh ... But this is the work of both the FSB and the FSK ...
            2. Hlavaty
              Hlavaty 27 November 2017 12: 28 New
              +8
              Quote: Tatiana
              It is noteworthy that it was a foreign organization, the NGO Friedrich Ebert Foundation, that allocated a grant for the study of World War II at the gymnasium No. 1 in Novy Urengoy, in which Nikolai Desyatnichenko was studying. The same fund paid for the trip of students to the graves, as well as to Germany.

              Well, whoever pays and orders the music. And the Urengoy boys do it.
              1. jjj
                jjj 27 November 2017 14: 38 New
                10
                In Arkhangelsk, a case was instituted against the rector of an entire university. There, they spoke about grants from the Barents region. And about helping foreign intelligence services. The rector’s contract expired. Shone a different kind of term. The university was led by another person. And suddenly, as if by magic, the case was stopped, the new rector was removed, and the old one was returned to the chair
                1. Hlavaty
                  Hlavaty 27 November 2017 17: 41 New
                  +3
                  Apparently the old one has proved his devotion to ideological work.
            3. Reserve officer
              Reserve officer 27 November 2017 12: 33 New
              21
              Classic. Barrel of jam and a basket of cookies.
              Well, nothing can be done about this 16 person from age. Raise late. Do not be surprised if in the yard in the face will receive, or even worse.
              But on the teaching methods in schools you need to look more closely. Moreover, there is nothing to expect from the Ministry of Education. Immediately SAM Peskov said something to justify this individual. So immediately all the media and television channels began to say that, they say, it's okay.
              We ourselves, parents, grandparents, need to stop blindly trusting the existing education system of our children. Remember -
              "There is no such family in Russia,
              Wherever my hero was remembered.
              And the eyes of young soldiers
              From photos of wilted look ...
              This look is like a supreme court
              For the guys that are growing now,
              And the boys can neither lie nor deceive,
              No way off. "
              First of all, we are responsible for the growing boys and girls. Tell them the story of your family, do not be shy about anything. And believe me, when they hear all this from family people about their own family, then all sorts of funds and grants will no longer be able to make puppets out of them.
              By the way, our media again distorted the position of the president related to the words of his mother. In an interview in which he quoted his mother saying that she does not have hatred of the Germans, he expressed his own attitude, which no one bothers to quote - “This is amazing. We were brought up on Soviet books, films ... And we hated . "
            4. Sotskiy
              Sotskiy 27 November 2017 15: 40 New
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              Quote: Tatiana
              As a result, Gymnasium No.1 in Novy Urengoy can rightfully be recognized as a foreign agent.

              About power.
              At the same time, keeping legalized foreign spies, saboteurs and agitators of Goebbels propaganda on their territory, who openly carry out subversive activities in their interests, is so democratic! I wonder who the authorities are preparing such "rear"? Oh yes, I forgot, we have the party’s course on "integration" into the European "civilization" ...
              Here is the first batch of the new generation and went ... right to the Bundestag! Sacrifice the current "gods"?
            5. ARES623
              ARES623 27 November 2017 21: 06 New
              +9
              Quote: Tatiana
              It is noteworthy that it was a foreign organization, the NGO Friedrich Ebert Foundation, that allocated a grant for the study of World War II at the gymnasium No. 1 in Novy Urengoy, in which Nikolai Desyatnichenko was studying. The same fund paid for the trip of students to the graves, as well as to Germany.

              You can recall Hitler's phrase: "Let me raise your children, and I will not need to fight with you." Well, it can be stated that Hitler’s cause lives, unfortunately, and flourishes. And now two old Russian questions: who is to blame and what to do? In the aggregate of posts and time at the throne, a fair share of the blame lies with Putin and Medvedev, along with all the members of their governments. How many conversations about a single history textbook and what in practice? In the 9th grade, Second World School was studied by my child for 2 weeks! What can one ask afterwards? The teachers did not arouse any interest in the subject, from the word "completely." The subject teacher herself said in a frank conversation that she, in general, was for the “whites”. But "history" is a worldview .... I think that in the 20-21 centuries it is necessary to study the entire high school in great detail (grades 10-11) and form a clear view of the place of the USSR and Russia in the world. The role of parents should not be belittled, but basic knowledge and concepts should come from qualified teachers. But it seems to Garant, the Chairman and the Ministry of Education all this "to the lamp ....". Do not see the movements.
          2. svp67
            svp67 27 November 2017 14: 54 New
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            Quote: Tatiana
            The German fascists would take with them the whole world to the grave, if that were possible.

            Madam hi . Being Nazis, these creatures could not act differently and are not different from them by the same Nazis from Hungary, Romania, Slovakia, Italy and Ukraine. But here I recall one of the stories that my father told me, a man who did not fight in that war, but survived the occupation as a little boy. This happened in 1943, during one of the German sweeps, when they tried to fight the partisans. Before the mopping-up operation, the little children from their street were hidden in a pit in the garden, leaving one old woman with them and covering the pit with a sheet of iron, sprinkling them with earth. And they themselves went to the gathering. Father says that he remembers how dark and scary it was, a whisper of a grandmother was heard, asking not to cry and not to speak ... At some point, a sheet of iron was suddenly dropped and dad saw two German soldiers, one of whom was preparing to throw a grenade. The second one suddenly saw who was sitting in the pit, grabbed his hand and shouted: "Kinder, Kinder !!!!!!". The grenade was removed. And who stopped this throw, took out chocolate from a bag and treated each of the children with a small piece of chocolate. So, here ... And on that day, about thirty people were shot in the father's village for intimidation.
            Who is this German soldier? He saved the children as best he could with them. Nevertheless, he is the enemy who killed their fathers and brothers. And I am grateful to him that he saved my father, but I cannot forgive him the grief that he brought to my native land.
            1. Hadji Murat
              Hadji Murat 27 November 2017 15: 49 New
              +5
              when I was in my homeland, in the Kuban in the village of Makhoshevskaya, I saw something that my grandmother-memorial told me a lot about the inhabitants of Mikhezeyeva Polyana .... everyone was killed, opposite the names of the date of birth, 1860 ..... and before 1942 .. ..more than 100 last names ....
            2. Sotskiy
              Sotskiy 27 November 2017 16: 11 New
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              Quote: svp67
              ... Being Nazis, these creatures could not act differently and are not different from them by the same Nazis from Hungary, Romania, Slovakia, Italy and Ukraine ...

              In the village (Krasnodar Territory) in which my mother and her three sisters were born, and then me, there were Hungarians and Czechs. Also, they probably didn’t want to fight for the “boy Kolenka”, but simply visited the “guests”? I won’t be surprised if, with the current “absence” of alternative ideology, in 10 years, the version of the “great trip just to visit” will be the main one in our schools.
              1. urman
                urman 28 November 2017 09: 39 New
                +4
                There is a village near Anapa (namely a village) Varvarovka.
                Founded, in my opinion, by ethnic Czechs.
                They came, just to visit, the Romanians and wore out polls all residents.
                I wish that Kolya’s mother went under dirty and sweaty Romanians.
                And there are, in the suburbs of Anapa, small, not noticeable monuments
                the executed locals, well, the guests didn’t like them
                innocent
                We are not a geyropa! A welcome guest came to us, there is a rule that there are swords in the oven on the table
                and give the last shirt.
                Well, if they didn’t call you, they didn’t wait for you, and even with their rules!
                Choose the bush under which you will be dug.
        2. asiat_61
          asiat_61 28 November 2017 03: 43 New
          +3
          And the family has nothing to do with it? Maybe you still need to look in the family?
      2. vovanpain
        vovanpain 27 November 2017 10: 12 New
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        Quote: Finches
        Bulk - the beginning ....

        No no Eugene hi Navalny with Kolenka is the end and shame of Russia, but the beginning is here. hi
        1. Finches
          Finches 27 November 2017 10: 15 New
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          Here is another forerunner - Hero of the USA, his mother .....:

          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 27 November 2017 10: 25 New
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            Why are you inserting this face of the court ???
            Pancake negative
            1. Finches
              Finches 27 November 2017 10: 37 New
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              Did they monitor the monitor? I have the same reaction to these faces ...
              1. Sotskiy
                Sotskiy 27 November 2017 16: 19 New
                +8
                Quote: Finches
                Did they monitor the monitor? I have the same reaction to these faces ...

                Even the fauna of the country, but not the authorities, is in agreement with us: "27 of September 2017. Crows attacked the Yeltsin Center."
                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 30 November 2017 21: 19 New
                  +8
                  Quote: Sovetskiy
                  Crows attacked the Yeltsin Center. "

                  Yes, and hell would be a raven ...
              2. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 29 November 2017 11: 48 New
                +8
                Quote: Finches
                Did they monitor the monitor? I have the same reaction to these faces ...

                Vaennai ... ok with the monitor.
                I’m just filtering the bazaar ... and you, just hiking, just splashing negative
                1. Finches
                  Finches 29 November 2017 12: 12 New
                  +2
                  It's unclear! hi
            2. antivirus
              antivirus 27 November 2017 11: 50 New
              +6
              THIS IS FOR TESTING FOR STRESS RESISTANCE.
              TIE NECESSARY WITH KVN AND DR. ABOUT SERIOUS THINKING BIGGER.
            3. weksha50
              weksha50 27 November 2017 12: 00 New
              +6
              Quote: Golovan Jack
              Why do you it erysipelas trial paste??


              As you can see right away, what pounded ... Even on the clave, fingers are pounding the wrong way ... laughing
              I have a similar reaction, if not worse ... hi
          2. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 27 November 2017 13: 46 New
            +4
            Better this way:

            This is for him instead of a barrel of jam and a basket of cookies.
        2. vm-bt
          vm-bt 27 November 2017 13: 28 New
          +3
          And still like this: Hero of Great Britain! The man who changed the world!
          Applause!!!.
          ..
      3. Victor Red
        Victor Red 27 November 2017 13: 29 New
        +7
        Quote: Finches

        you need to take the authors of the history textbook for high school, take their "creation" and for a long time, it’s delicious to hit them on the head ...

        Little help. The question is not who writes the textbooks. Let them write what they want. The question is how these textbooks get to the “knees”. After all, the textbook is approved by a special commission of the Ministry of Education, i.e. It complies with the Federal State Educational Standard! Another question arises, what kind of standards are those that allow the possibility of coverage in a textbook, the history of the Second World War with just two sentences. That's where the field of activity for the prosecutor’s office is. But here a third question arises: who are the judges?
        1. Dedall
          Dedall 27 November 2017 19: 27 New
          +8
          Have you read the new textbooks on medicine? if not, I’ll explain that there are also removed all the symptom designations and the names of the diseases with the names of Russian doctors. And for example, in the chemistry textbook there is not a word about Lomonosov. Thank God, even though the periodic table is still called. So the attack on national pride and self-awareness is conducted on the whole front.
          1. Victor Red
            Victor Red 27 November 2017 23: 51 New
            +2
            And not unsuccessfully. Now such "knees and deer" are a dime a dozen. On that week, on Ren-TV, an express survey of Moscow schoolchildren on the history of the Second World War was shown. This is something with something. The war began at 42, the commander in chief was Kutuzov, the Germans surrounded Stalingrad and there many people died of starvation, our losses in the war were about 5 million.
            I admit that television people showed only the most negative answers and I want to believe that there are such a minority but nonetheless ...
            And the worse is that under the words of Kolenka, a significant number of his peers will consciously sign.
      4. Cadet
        Cadet 27 November 2017 18: 30 New
        +2
        And the point is to beat if the head margarine.
      5. Spnsr
        Spnsr 2 December 2017 22: 59 New
        0
        Nice post! Facebook twice blocked the account of VGTRK journalist Andrei Medvedev for his post on speaking in the Bundestag. The text is excellent and in a very good way Russian, so it deserves to be read.

        “If I had to speak in the Bundestag as a boy, Kolya, I probably said these words:
        - Dear deputies. Today I saw a miracle. And this miracle is called Germany. I went to you and looked at the beautiful streets of Berlin, at people, at wonderful monuments of architecture, and now I stand here and look at you. And I understand that all this is a miracle. That you were all born into the world and live in Germany. Why do I think so? Because, given what your soldiers did here, in the occupied territories, the Red Army fighters had every moral right to destroy the entire German people.

        Leaving a burnt field in place of Germany, ruins, and only paragraphs of textbooks would remind us that there was once such a country. You probably do not remember all the details of the occupation, but this is not necessary. I just remind you of what the soldiers of the Wehrmacht and the SS did with Soviet children. They were shot. Often in front of parents. Or vice versa, at first they shot at dad with mom, and then at the children.

        Your soldiers raped the children. Children were burned alive. Sent to concentration camps. Where they took blood to make serum for your soldiers. Children were starved. Your shepherds ate the children to death. Children were used as targets. Children were brutally tortured just for fun.

        Or here are two examples for you. Wehrmacht officer prevented the baby from sleeping, he took his leg and broke his head on the corner of the stove. Your pilots at the Lychkovo station bombed a train on which they tried to take the children to the rear, and then your aces chased the frightened kids, shooting them in a bare field. Two thousand children were killed.

        Only for what you did with the children, I repeat, the Red Army could completely destroy Germany with its inhabitants. She had full moral right. But didn’t.
        Do I regret it? Of course not. I admire the steel will of my ancestors, who found some incredible strength in themselves, so as not to become the same cattle as the soldiers of the Wehrmacht.

        On the buckles of German soldiers it was written "God is with us." But they were the offspring of hell and brought hell to our land. The soldiers of the Red Army were Komsomol and Communists, but the Soviet people turned out to be much more Christians than the inhabitants of enlightened religious Europe. And they did not take revenge. They could understand that hell cannot be defeated by hell.
        You should not apologize to us, because personally you are not to blame for anything. You cannot be responsible for your grandfathers and great-grandfathers. And then, only the Lord forgives. But I will tell you honestly - for me the Germans are forever a stranger, an alien people. This is not because you are personally bad. This in me screams the pain of children burnt by the Wehrmacht. And you have to accept that at least my generation - for whom the memory of the war is the rewards of his grandfather, his scars, his front-line friends - will perceive you like that.

        What will happen next, I do not know. Perhaps after us come mankurts who forget everything. And we have done a lot for this, we have done a lot of things for ourselves, but I hope that not everything is lost for Russia.

        Of course we need to cooperate. Russian and Germans. We need to solve problems together. Fight ISIS and build gas pipelines. But you have to accept one fact: we will never repent for our Great this war. And even more so for the Victory. And even more so in front of you. In any case, I repeat, my generation. Because then we saved not only ourselves. We have saved you from ourselves. And I don’t even know which is more important. ”

        PS Not only read, but let others read it!
    2. Antianglosax
      Antianglosax 27 November 2017 10: 08 New
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      No way people will understand - this is not a boy Kolya said ... This his lips were spoken by our government, president, State Duma, oligarchs and other liberal bastard who usurped power in the 90s.
    3. AA17
      AA17 27 November 2017 10: 50 New
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      With the help of Kolya from Urengoy, they are trying to create an Overton Window. (And this is at a time when our potential "western partners", that is, enemies near the borders of Russia, are rattling weapons.) At all times in the existence of our Motherland, our ancestors, at the cost of their lives, have warned ALL potential enemies. The invasion of Russian territory is mortally dangerous. Alexander Khasanov:
      Whoever comes to us with a sword will die by the sword
      So they say and will be in Russia
      Long ago, Russia was considered a place of disaster.
      Do not believe? Ask the invaders

      Who will come to us with a sword, then do not cry
      No number, no arsenal will help you
      Hide your ambitions
      Our people didn’t break such horns

      Whoever comes to us with a sword will surely regret
      And maybe not right away, and then
      Not All Holy Russia Pities
      And with cattle it’s like cattle

      Who comes to us with a sword, keep in mind
      What are you not going to flies
      Lessons from the past
      Russian Spirit Is Hard

      And this is not treachery of Russia
      But apparently not everyone can understand
      You go to war on the state
      And you are met by the MOTHERLAND, besides MOTHER
    4. vik669
      vik669 27 November 2017 15: 37 New
      +5
      Yes, what is it, "Kolya" natural "Mykola"!
    5. Me 262
      Me 262 27 November 2017 18: 27 New
      +4
      Quote: Dead Day
      this "boy" from Urengoy, the name is Kolya Wehrmacht.

      No, Kohl-Hitler Jugend!
  2. Separ DNR
    Separ DNR 27 November 2017 05: 58 New
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    They say that all roads lead to the temple.
    "Kolenka", whose name has become a household name for the catastrophic tendency of self-humiliation of Russia, the road of oblivion, and the blackening of its own history, led to the defeated Reichstag ...
  3. 210ox
    210ox 27 November 2017 05: 59 New
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    This kid will make a very good career ... Let's say in the "Yeltsin Center" ..
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 27 November 2017 06: 00 New
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      Quote: 210ox
      This kid will make a very good career ... Let's say in the "Yeltsin Center" ..

      wait ... isho and climb into the Duma ....
      1. Separ DNR
        Separ DNR 27 November 2017 06: 05 New
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        Quote: Dead Day
        wait ... isho and climb into the Duma ....

        It is possible ... Won at the "very top" began to defend him. recourse
        1. 210ox
          210ox 27 November 2017 06: 10 New
          14
          Pay attention .. Is this a fool from? Yes, from the fiefdom of the "public domain" ... And there were opinions that in this way the policy of Russia in relation to the "locomotive" of Europe-Germany is being promoted (Nord Stream and everything else) .. Yes, but not by such methods! Parents probably work in this same Gazprom. And certainly not by ordinary employees ..
          Quote: Separ DNR
          Quote: Dead Day
          wait ... isho and climb into the Duma ....

          It is possible ... Won at the "very top" began to defend him. recourse
          1. Separ DNR
            Separ DNR 27 November 2017 06: 22 New
            +7
            Quote: 210ox
            Yes, but not by such methods!

            Jesuit methods. And they are not used in the "gas industry" for the first time.

            “One of” and not an unimportant factor in the “freezing” of the liberation of Donbass from the junta’s troops was Russian gas, or rather critical (without Nord Stream 2) dependence on its transit to Europe at the moment.
          2. user
            user 27 November 2017 08: 21 New
            +7
            Parents probably work in this same Gazprom.


            On this occasion, they wrote, with a photo attached to their official sabantuy, dad is the chief for economic security, they have a common project with the Germans, well, the children of such people correspond - tolerance in one word. And the Germans invite them to Germany for joint projects.
            Therefore, such a reaction of the Kremlin, including Peskov.
      2. 210ox
        210ox 27 November 2017 06: 05 New
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        I don’t argue. In about twenty years we will leave the country to natural damps. Who said that we have immunity against the Maidan and distortion of history? Hell with two! New labeled and ebony grow up.
        Quote: Dead Day
        Quote: 210ox
        This kid will make a very good career ... Let's say in the "Yeltsin Center" ..

        wait ... isho and climb into the Duma ....
        1. Same lech
          Same lech 27 November 2017 06: 14 New
          14
          In twenty years we will leave the country to natural damps. Who said that we have immunity against the Maidan and distortion of history?


          They hit the very Achilles heel of Russia ... to the children.
          Reformat the brains in the right way and send young people to destroy their own state ...


          Yes ... Germans and Americans cannot be denied perseverance in this matter ... they have been working in our territory for more than a year now.
          The worst thing that our society notices is when the thunder strikes ...
          Jihadist BARBARA ...
          Kolya is a jihadist ...
          Kolya is the protector of the innocently murdered German executioners ...
          this list goes on and on ...

          such is the price for the frivolous upbringing of our youth ... the state has withdrawn from this and will end up with a big headache ... how to deal with it now. what

          Although many smart minds warned the powers that be long before that ... play the game ... lose everything and not only Russia but also their capital.
          1. 210ox
            210ox 27 November 2017 06: 16 New
            12
            Who is hitting? Here are those at the top. Listen to Peskov.
            1. Same lech
              Same lech 27 November 2017 06: 22 New
              12
              Who is hitting? Here are those at the top. Listen to Peskov.


              I listened to his speech ... and was shocked by him.

              I considered him an intelligent man, but in fact it turned out he was not far from this 21-year-old boy from URENGOY.
              For the state man, Peskov froze a lot of stupidity ... he still comes across this.
              1. Evgeniy667b
                Evgeniy667b 27 November 2017 10: 04 New
                +6
                But how many dieferams to Chef Peskov, the "multi-skilled artisan," the best thing for the GDP is to leave before it's too late !!! Far he went in his thoughts, more harm than good.
          2. patr
            patr 27 November 2017 18: 35 New
            +2
            This boy Kolya, not as it seems. He and his entourage (parents, school) quite deliberately spat on, dirtied the memory of almost every family that lost their loved ones in that brutal war. These "innocent" victims turned half of the country into ruins, robbed and killed ... What can I say !!!
        2. Served once
          Served once 27 November 2017 11: 39 New
          13
          That's not the word! In 5-10-15 years, such “stake” will require demolishing Mother Motherland, leveling Mamaev Kurgan. Dismantling Pavlov’s House and Mill ... so as not to injure the psyche of the descendants of the Nazis, gentle in every sense. It’s bitter and insulting to The ancestors who crushed this brown reptile, whom do we bring up and how? Everyone is for the sake of the golden calf. In all the games on the mail in the chat rooms there are such “stakes” and write, write, distort our history, destroy our Victory.
      3. antivirus
        antivirus 27 November 2017 08: 17 New
        11
        “Pretty, pretty, be patient,” the nurse whispered, unbuttoning his quilted jacket — I'll do everything now.
        - Do not ... - Fedor whispered, - it’s in vain ...
        “Well, now, I'll tie you up, then we will deliver to the hospital, they will quickly treat you,” the girl said in a patter.
        - Sister, - Fedor whispered, - do not ... Better to kiss me ... The girl has never kissed me ...

        В08 Г PARTICIPATED IN THE THERAPEUT - RECEIVE RECIPES. BENEFIT OF MEDICINE FOR PARENTS
        SITS THE SIZE OF OUR HOUSE THE OLD WOMAN AND TALKS WITH DR IN QUEUE.
        -WHO IS LAST ?
        - THERE IS GRANDMA. I AM RESPONSIBLE FOR HER.
        -YES I COULD WITHOUT A QUEUE. I am a veteran of the war.
        94 Fighters pulled AWARDS I HAVE. BUT THERE WANTS TO TALK
    2. antivirus
      antivirus 27 November 2017 08: 09 New
      +6
      he is the son of an "oilman"
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      2. Nikoha.2010
        Nikoha.2010 27 November 2017 11: 48 New
        +3
        Quote: antivirus
        he is the son of an "oilman"

        He is the son of a guard! Promoted a guy to the whole world! Go far!
    3. peta locksmith
      peta locksmith 27 November 2017 15: 06 New
      +4
      and quite possibly, the former governor of our region - ed Rossel - ethnic nemchura - his family in Germany for permanent residence - and Rossel himself, through German grants, recruits students from Ural Federal University-UPI and organizes all kinds of presentations there, etc. in the ebn center

      because of this filthy ebn center it will soon be a shame to say that we live in Yekaterinburg

      not only that meeeer roizmAn from the uralmash gang, but also ebn-center spoiled the city
  4. aszzz888
    aszzz888 27 November 2017 06: 16 New
    +3
    ... couldn’t raise a child - it’s me on the excuses of his parents ... let them move to Germany, they will be accepted there ...
    1. Separ DNR
      Separ DNR 27 November 2017 06: 29 New
      17
      Quote: aszzz888
      ... couldn’t raise a child - it’s me on the excuses of his parents ... let them move to Germany, they will be accepted there ...

      What next ? Well, all these “knees” with mother-rags will leave, so what? Will Ivanov not remember kinship cease to breed?

      The system of state education must be changed. Until it's not too late. Otherwise, everything will end for Russia, oh how bad.
      Maidan and Donbass seem gingerbread ...
    2. 210ox
      210ox 27 November 2017 07: 03 New
      +3
      Very able. Ask who they are.
      Quote: aszzz888
      ... couldn’t raise a child - it’s me on the excuses of his parents ... let them move to Germany, they will be accepted there ...
  5. Herculesic
    Herculesic 27 November 2017 07: 33 New
    +5
    He can procure German citizenship for Kolya and his family, deprive them of ours, and let them live there in Germany and continue, but here so that the road is ordered to them? ???
    1. 210ox
      210ox 27 November 2017 08: 31 New
      +7
      Try with such a proposal, first contact Gazprom. There they will explain to you who may be a citizen and who may not!
      Quote: Herkulesich
      He can procure German citizenship for Kolya and his family, deprive them of ours, and let them live there in Germany and continue, but here so that the road is ordered to them? ???
  6. odometer
    odometer 27 November 2017 07: 34 New
    +8
    The kid simply thought, perhaps, to study in Germany, and then live and work there, and decided in this way to earn pluses for the future. The motivation is simple - in any way to sweet buns. On everything and on all "put with the device." Sorrow ...
    1. Lev Bronsch
      Lev Bronsch 27 November 2017 17: 52 New
      +2
      I absolutely agree with you !! Intrinsic motivation is visible immediately!
  7. Klim podkova
    27 November 2017 07: 42 New
    24
    T. Stalin and boy Kolya from New Urengoy

    Joseph Stalin picked up the phone.
    - Comrade Beria, I watched the performance of a schoolboy from Urengoy here ... The history teachers teach in Taimyr, let history teach seals, the school principal speaks to the Yakutsk Autonomous Okrug to a shelter for children of reindeer herders. The chief of the city - in the sports camp on the Kolyma. For the purpose of prevention, for the teaching staff of Novy Urengoy, organize the 2 weekly excursion “In Stalin's Places”: Amurlag, Kamyshlag, Vorkutlag, Dallag, Dmitrovlag ...
    “What about the boy, comrade Stalin?”
    - What with a jerk take? Give a good hiding. And then in the army to give.
  8. Midshipman
    Midshipman 27 November 2017 07: 46 New
    50
    Facebook twice blocked the account of VGTRK journalist Andrei Medvedev for his post on speaking in the Bundestag. The text is excellent and in a very good way Russian, so it deserves to be read.

    “If I had to speak in the Bundestag as a boy, Kolya, I probably said these words:
    - Dear deputies. Today I saw a miracle. And this miracle is called Germany. I went to you and looked at the beautiful streets of Berlin, at people, at wonderful monuments of architecture, and now I stand here and look at you. And I understand that all this is a miracle. That you were all born into the world and live in Germany. Why do I think so? Because, given what your soldiers did here, in the occupied territories, the Red Army fighters had every moral right to destroy the entire German people.

    Leaving a burnt field in place of Germany, ruins, and only paragraphs of textbooks would remind us that there was once such a country. You probably do not remember all the details of the occupation, but this is not necessary. I just remind you of what the soldiers of the Wehrmacht and the SS did with Soviet children. They were shot. Often in front of parents. Or vice versa, at first they shot at dad with mom, and then at the children.

    Your soldiers raped the children. Children were burned alive. Sent to concentration camps. Where they took blood to make serum for your soldiers. Children were starved. Your shepherds ate the children to death. Children were used as targets. Children were brutally tortured just for fun.

    Or here are two examples for you. Wehrmacht officer prevented the baby from sleeping, he took his leg and broke his head on the corner of the stove. Your pilots at the Lychkovo station bombed a train on which they tried to take the children to the rear, and then your aces chased the frightened kids, shooting them in a bare field. Two thousand children were killed.

    Only for what you did with the children, I repeat, the Red Army could completely destroy Germany with its inhabitants. She had full moral right. But didn’t.
    Do I regret it? Of course not. I admire the steel will of my ancestors, who found some incredible strength in themselves, so as not to become the same cattle as the soldiers of the Wehrmacht.

    On the buckles of German soldiers it was written "God is with us." But they were the offspring of hell and brought hell to our land. The soldiers of the Red Army were Komsomol and Communists, but the Soviet people turned out to be much more Christians than the inhabitants of enlightened religious Europe. And they did not take revenge. They could understand that hell cannot be defeated by hell.
    You should not apologize to us, because personally you are not to blame for anything. You cannot be responsible for your grandfathers and great-grandfathers. And then, only the Lord forgives. But I will tell you honestly - for me the Germans are forever a stranger, an alien people. This is not because you are personally bad. This in me screams the pain of children burnt by the Wehrmacht. And you have to accept that at least my generation - for whom the memory of the war is the rewards of his grandfather, his scars, his front-line friends - will perceive you like that.

    What will happen next, I do not know. Perhaps after us come mankurts who forget everything. And we have done a lot for this, we have done a lot of things for ourselves, but I hope that not everything is lost for Russia.

    Of course we need to cooperate. Russian and Germans. We need to solve problems together. Fight ISIS and build gas pipelines. But you have to accept one fact: we will never repent for our Great this war. And even more so for the Victory. And even more so in front of you. In any case, I repeat, my generation. Because then we saved not only ourselves. We have saved you from ourselves. And I don’t even know which is more important. ”
    1. 2ez
      2ez 27 November 2017 11: 40 New
      +5
      THANK YOU!
    2. weksha50
      weksha50 27 November 2017 12: 16 New
      +9
      Quote: Midshipman
      But you have to accept one fact: we will never repent for our Great this war. And even more so for the Victory. And even more so in front of you. In any case, I repeat, my generation. Because then we saved not only ourselves. We have saved you from ourselves. And I don’t even know which is more important. ”


      hi
  9. Ilya77
    Ilya77 27 November 2017 08: 04 New
    +3
    Vladimir Putin: After lifting the blockade, they moved to their parents' homeland, in the Tver province, and lived there until the end of the war. The father’s family was quite large. He had six brothers, and five died. This is a disaster for the family. And my mother killed relatives. And I turned out to be a late child. She gave birth to me at 41.

    And there was no family where no one died. And, of course, grief, misfortune, tragedy. But they did not have hatred for the enemy, that’s what was surprising. I still can not, frankly, fully understand this. My mother generally had a very gentle, kind person ... And she said: “Well, what kind of hatred for these soldiers can be? They are ordinary people and also perished in the war. ” This is amazing. We were brought up on Soviet books, films ... And we hated it. But for some reason she didn’t have it at all. And I remembered her words very well: “Well, what to take from them? They are just as hardworking as we are. They just drove them to the front. ”

    These are the words I remember from childhood.
  10. kobussubok
    kobussubok 27 November 2017 08: 08 New
    10
    Naughty ... And the parents are the same ..., brainless ... !!! Glories wanted, "doves of the World"? Or do you think that you will receive a response to such speeches in the form of pan-German repentance and grief for those killed and tortured? I would not return to your place in Russia, as did the traitors of the country.
  11. Golovan Jack
    Golovan Jack 27 November 2017 08: 08 New
    +9
    Quote: Ilya77
    These are the words I remember from childhood.

    You can remember whatever you want.
    But to write such things - I would not. I'm just well brought up. Parents, grandfather and grandmother, yeah ...
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 27 November 2017 14: 27 New
      +3
      Quote: Golovan Jack
      But to write such things - I would not.
      Why? Does it cast a shadow on the reputation of the “sun of the nation" that you pray in the morning?
      Quote: Golovan Jack
      I'm just well brought up.
      But to write on the forum at least sometimes reasonable things have not been learned, what a shame.
  12. parusnik
    parusnik 27 November 2017 08: 10 New
    +9
    Boy Kolya, as a result of brainwashing the population .. Flushing is successful ... December 6, 2017, they are going to hang on to Mannerheim again in Leningrad .. this is according to an Internet source ... They just don’t take it off, they’ve better prepared ..
  13. Seraphimamur
    Seraphimamur 27 November 2017 08: 12 New
    +9
    During WWII and such a boy, Kolya would have turned out to be a loyal policeman lackey.
  14. Alsur
    Alsur 27 November 2017 08: 22 New
    +2
    I don’t understand something, information has already flown here that the boy is already 21 years old. Accordingly, he is not a student, but a graduate of this gymnasium.
    https://topwar.ru/130263-evgeniy-spicyn-pod-vidom
    -apolitichnosti-shkolnikam-navyazyvayut-novuyu-id
    eologiyu.html
    1. Domestic cat
      Domestic cat 29 November 2017 04: 36 New
      0
      Look at the VK page of Kolisurengoy and that's it ...
  15. ando_bor
    ando_bor 27 November 2017 08: 37 New
    +1
    Stalin is guilty, he did not hang the German, like other fascists, so he managed to die an innocent prisoner of war, and Kolya correctly says, according to the law: in Soviet and in modern Russian and German.
  16. igor1981
    igor1981 27 November 2017 08: 56 New
    +6
    The article is just class. Still, this bastard Kolenka give her to read.
  17. BAI
    BAI 27 November 2017 10: 10 New
    +4
    Actually, it seems to me on Zvezda (or maybe Ren TV, at Prokopenko) that they correctly said yesterday: “We need to talk more and more often in Germany about the“ poor Yogans ”so that the current burghers and frau think about whether to send their children to Russia to establish their own rules there and what awaits them there. " Not literally, but the meaning is this.
    1. Victor Red
      Victor Red 27 November 2017 14: 22 New
      +4
      Prokopenko’s. And the meaning of his speech was that there were no innocent, forcibly rotten to the East Fritz, and their parents were proud of them and dreamed about how many hectares of fertile chernozems and how many non-decreasing slaves they will receive.
  18. Vasya Vassin
    Vasya Vassin 27 November 2017 10: 22 New
    +5
    Oh, if so ... But something, I doubt that someone was fighting at this geek in the family.
  19. Barkun
    Barkun 27 November 2017 10: 27 New
    +2
    Strong. According to Stanislavsky - I believe!
  20. Gardamir
    Gardamir 27 November 2017 10: 38 New
    +2
    Talentedly!
  21. 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave 27 November 2017 10: 40 New
    +2
    The plot, of course, is not new, but the story turned out to be quite good.
  22. Molot1979
    Molot1979 27 November 2017 10: 42 New
    +4
    Even if those who blame everything on the Ministry of Foreign Affairs are right, without which Kolya would not say a word, there are still a lot of questions. For example, is “friendship” with Germany worth taking off your pants, turning your booty to the Bundestag and leaning slightly? Do we really need that Germany to take on their Katyn crime from year to year? What does Uncle Vova want to achieve with these gestures? What, will they respect him more in Europe?
    1. antivirus
      antivirus 27 November 2017 11: 53 New
      +1
      the dead do not shame. all will endure
  23. Rey_ka
    Rey_ka 27 November 2017 11: 00 New
    +3
    Someone who has read a history textbook from us is not the one by which we studied, but today's !. That's what they taught and it turned out to blame yourself!
  24. abarth
    abarth 27 November 2017 11: 26 New
    +1
    maybe it's like Saving Private Ryan, and our humanist, at the next meeting, will pull the trigger ....
  25. Kostadinov
    Kostadinov 27 November 2017 11: 29 New
    +8
    Quote: Finches
    Bulk - the beginning .... laughing

    However, it’s not funny - you need to take the authors of the history textbook for high school, take their “creation” and beat them on the head for a long time ... until it begins to reach the point that the Great Patriotic War cannot be stated in two sentences .. . However, unfortunately, how many heads from education you need to go through to change something .... Especially to the heads of those 90s when liberal pseudo-learned "historians" like Chubais’s brother reluctantly pushed each other with their elbows. the country's history for the sake of the West for a handout, and unscrupulous officials, like Fursenko they joyfully flowed ...

    The question is not only so much in textbooks. Specialized literature on the war turned into one glorification of the exploits of the German supermen. They eclipsed the heroes of Omir. The best pilots, the best tankers, the best planes, the best submarines, and so on. This is no longer a war, but what about the Olympic Games or Formula 1 in which the Germans became champions and won all the gold medals.
    Boys and children love winners and supermen.
    Therefore, it is necessary for the children to show that war is not a sporting event and that all German Ubermens and the best pilots themselves finally abandoned their weapons and unconditionally surrendered. Unconditional surrender is something unheard of in military history, and if these German heroes had a sense of dignity, it was better for them to commit suicide as the Fuhrer did.
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 27 November 2017 15: 33 New
      +2
      what about the olympic games
      ... Everything goes to the point that the world community will accuse the USSR of taking doping and our victory in the war, will award Germany ...
  26. Nemesis
    Nemesis 27 November 2017 11: 35 New
    10
    Now on this site there are not a few such as this Ukrainian Kolya. Fans Sobchak. Those who want to oust their Ukrainian relatives from the crimes she committed in the Donbass, Ossetia and Chechnya ... Tozherossiyans and their brothers who want to blame Russia and the Russians for all the collapse of the USSR and the blame for the pogroms of the Russian population in the republics of the former scoop ..... And But to stop the mess in Russia, you need: 1) In the USA, a person who obtains US citizenship vows to defend the USA with arms in his hands, from any state, including from his historical homeland, if he is a migrant ... I don’t see why in Russia it should be different ... 2) introduce the death penalty for the state rstvennuyu treason, Russophobia, drug trafficking, slave trade and terrorism, with confiscation of property, and not only for those directly involved, but also for the partners. 3) Introduce a citizenship law in Russia corresponding to that in Nepal and Saudi Arabia. 4) Stop feeding at the expense and to the detriment of Russia of the republic of the former scoop and engage in state support of the indigenous population of Russia ...
    1. EwgenyZ
      EwgenyZ 27 November 2017 18: 53 New
      +3
      You already decide: either the USSR or the scoop. You regret the collapse of the Union and immediately water the Union with slops.
      1. Nemesis
        Nemesis 27 November 2017 20: 20 New
        +2
        I do not regret the collapse of the USSR, because this process clearly showed how in the republics of the scoop belong to Russians and Russia. The USSR collapsed because the USSR made a bet on the national minorities, it was a huge mistake ... And as a result, we still hear shouts from the Baltic states that some kind of Latvia allegedly fed the entire USSR ... I despise people who violated the oath. People who swore oaths of the USSR, violated the oath, supported the coup, shot the tanks of the lawfully elected parliament of the country ... I despise all these fake people, members of the CPSU, like Dali Grybauskaite ....
  27. Naum
    Naum 27 November 2017 11: 36 New
    +8
    Quote: Midshipman
    Facebook twice blocked the account of VGTRK journalist Andrei Medvedev for his post on speaking in the Bundestag. The text is excellent and in a very good way Russian, so it deserves to be read.

    “If I had to speak in the Bundestag as a boy, Kolya, I probably said these words:
    - Dear deputies. Today I saw a miracle. And this miracle is called Germany. I went to you and looked at the beautiful streets of Berlin, at people, at wonderful monuments of architecture, and now I stand here and look at you. And I understand that all this is a miracle. That you were all born into the world and live in Germany. Why do I think so? Because, given what your soldiers did here, in the occupied territories, the Red Army fighters had every moral right to destroy the entire German people.

    Leaving a burnt field in place of Germany, ruins, and only paragraphs of textbooks would remind us that there was once such a country. You probably do not remember all the details of the occupation, but this is not necessary. I just remind you of what the soldiers of the Wehrmacht and the SS did with Soviet children. They were shot. Often in front of parents. Or vice versa, at first they shot at dad with mom, and then at the children.

    Your soldiers raped the children. Children were burned alive. Sent to concentration camps. Where they took blood to make serum for your soldiers. Children were starved. Your shepherds ate the children to death. Children were used as targets. Children were brutally tortured just for fun.

    Or here are two examples for you. Wehrmacht officer prevented the baby from sleeping, he took his leg and broke his head on the corner of the stove. Your pilots at the Lychkovo station bombed a train on which they tried to take the children to the rear, and then your aces chased the frightened kids, shooting them in a bare field. Two thousand children were killed.

    Only for what you did with the children, I repeat, the Red Army could completely destroy Germany with its inhabitants. She had full moral right. But didn’t.
    Do I regret it? Of course not. I admire the steel will of my ancestors, who found some incredible strength in themselves, so as not to become the same cattle as the soldiers of the Wehrmacht.

    On the buckles of German soldiers it was written "God is with us." But they were the offspring of hell and brought hell to our land. The soldiers of the Red Army were Komsomol and Communists, but the Soviet people turned out to be much more Christians than the inhabitants of enlightened religious Europe. And they did not take revenge. They could understand that hell cannot be defeated by hell.
    You should not apologize to us, because personally you are not to blame for anything. You cannot be responsible for your grandfathers and great-grandfathers. And then, only the Lord forgives. But I will tell you honestly - for me the Germans are forever a stranger, an alien people. This is not because you are personally bad. This in me screams the pain of children burnt by the Wehrmacht. And you have to accept that at least my generation - for whom the memory of the war is the rewards of his grandfather, his scars, his front-line friends - will perceive you like that.

    What will happen next, I do not know. Perhaps after us come mankurts who forget everything. And we have done a lot for this, we have done a lot of things for ourselves, but I hope that not everything is lost for Russia.

    Of course we need to cooperate. Russian and Germans. We need to solve problems together. Fight ISIS and build gas pipelines. But you have to accept one fact: we will never repent for our Great this war. And even more so for the Victory. And even more so in front of you. In any case, I repeat, my generation. Because then we saved not only ourselves. We have saved you from ourselves. And I don’t even know which is more important. ”

    The most important thing is not to forget and not to forgive!
    1. Midshipman
      Midshipman 27 November 2017 12: 27 New
      +3
      Whoever remembers the old is over, and whoever forgets is both.
      1. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 27 November 2017 20: 52 New
        0
        Quote: Midshipman
        Whoever remembers the old is over, and whoever forgets is both.

        And Naum is wrong, and you. This is not in Russian.
        In our opinion, do not wake famously while it is quiet.
        The journalist’s speech is good, because they got it. Accumulate hatred in the soul and live with it, leave it alone.
        We have enough of our own affairs. It's time to ban the profession.
        Curves from curves-stuttering-burry from speakers,
        Nazi grant-eaters from teachers,
        studied in the west - from civil service and politics.
        And just so get rid of the pruritus.
        Human rights in the outhouse, in the first place - the right of people to live.
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  29. Apollo
    Apollo 27 November 2017 13: 17 New
    +3
    Well, what did you want? The performance of this young man is, in a sense, a debriefing of Putin’s rule. This is one of the deplorable outcomes of the reform in the education system. It doesn’t matter who was the Minister of Education during the years of its holding, it is important who was the ideological mentor, who stood at the head of the country and allowed this to happen. And here again the surname Putin pops up. Indeed, from time immemorial, the world has been designed in such a way that for all achievements, victories, mistakes and defeats, praise and blasphemy, it is charged exclusively to the first person of the state.
    So what claims to Kolya, he sees the past and present as he was taught in a Russian school, in which to this day there are no single history textbooks.
    1. Finches
      Finches 27 November 2017 14: 01 New
      +2
      Bulk? Not? laughing Oh! Sorry, sorry for God's sake, did not admit! Ksenia !!! laughing
    2. PKTRL
      PKTRL 27 November 2017 17: 10 New
      +2
      These are the results of the beginning of the "reform" of education in 1985, when they began to drastically reduce hours in each subject. And in the late 80s, informative thick textbooks began to turn into booklets, brochures of no more than 200-250 pages, on history, native speech, physics, chemistry, algebra, geometry, i.e. dubbing began ..! hi
  30. 1536
    1536 27 November 2017 14: 24 New
    +5
    To the Second World War and the Great Patriotic War 1941-1945 as an integral part, it is impossible to approach the methodology for evaluating events that has been applied and is being applied to the assessment of the First World War. Yes, during World War I, indeed, the millions of workers and peasants who made up the armies of the warring states did not want to fight, especially in the final years of the war, they did not understand what they were fighting for and each side could call its soldiers victims of the war.
    The psychology of German soldiers of World War II must be assessed in a completely different way. The soldiers of Germany, whose government, relying on the support of the bulk of the German population, and unleashed this war, were armed with the ideology of Nazism. Here are just two quotes from the speeches of the Nazi Rosenberg, in fact, the second person in the Nazi party, dated 20 June 1941 years (see source http://www.warmech.ru/1941war/g63.html):
    "The aim of German eastern policy towards Russians is to bring this primitive Muscovy back to the old traditions and turn it east again."
    “Today we are not looking for a“ crusade ”against Bolshevism, only to free the“ poor Russians ”from Bolshevism at all times, but to pursue German world politics and secure the German empire. We want to solve not only a temporary Bolshevik problem, but also those problems that go beyond this temporary phenomenon, like the original essence of European historical forces. Accordingly, we must today systematically recognize our future situation. A war for the purpose of education is not divisible Russia is therefore excluded. "
    Further quote Nazi delirium does not make sense. For him, Rosenberg was hanged by the verdict of the Nuremberg Tribunal for the totality of crimes against humanity. But it was precisely this ideology that millions of German workers, peasants, and intelligentsia were poisoned. It was these “ideas” that motivated them, and that was what they were guided by. That is why they killed, burned, destroyed everything that fell in their path and was considered alien to them. That is why their defeat was so "bitter" for them, and our Victory does not give them rest today!
  31. STUKOV
    STUKOV 27 November 2017 14: 45 New
    0
    All such good ones take Russia for pride.
  32. gm9019
    gm9019 27 November 2017 15: 36 New
    +1
    Well written! Very well! good good good
  33. Radikal
    Radikal 27 November 2017 15: 38 New
    +1
    Quote: Finches
    Bulk - the beginning .... laughing

    However, it’s not funny - you need to take the authors of the history textbook for high school, take their “creation” and beat them on the head for a long time ... until it begins to reach the point that the Great Patriotic War cannot be stated in two sentences .. . However, unfortunately, how many heads from education you need to go through to change something .... Especially to the heads of those 90s when liberal pseudo-learned "historians" like Chubais’s brother reluctantly pushed each other with their elbows. the country's history for the sake of the West for a handout, and unscrupulous officials, like Fursenko they joyfully flowed ...

    Well, if for subversive, anti-state activities they deserve only "beating" with their own little books, then what then should be required of Kolya’s boy? sad
    1. Finches
      Finches 27 November 2017 16: 13 New
      +3
      We can all make mistakes, and even more so at the age of 16 ... Young people are good at that — the opportunity to make mistakes and learn from this experience and lessons! But there must be demand from parents and teachers! hi
  34. Hadji Murat
    Hadji Murat 27 November 2017 15: 50 New
    +2
    when I was in my homeland, in the Kuban in the village of Makhoshevskaya, I saw something that my grandmother-memorial told me a lot about the inhabitants of Mikhezeyeva Polyana .... everyone was killed, opposite the names of the date of birth, 1860 ..... and before 1942 .. ..more than 100 last names ....
  35. Radikal
    Radikal 27 November 2017 16: 19 New
    +2
    Quote: Finches
    We can all make mistakes, and even more so at the age of 16 ... Young people are good at that — the opportunity to make mistakes and learn from this experience and lessons! But there must be demand from parents and teachers! hi

    You did not understand a bit (or pretended) what I had in mind, namely, the level of responsibility of people involved in anti-state activities. I believe that a conscious distortion, or interpretation in a certain direction of historical events, of the facts is harmful no less than espionage! bully
  36. PKTRL
    PKTRL 27 November 2017 16: 51 New
    +2
    Quote: Evgeniy667b
    But how many dieferams to Chef Peskov, the "multi-skilled artisan," the best thing for the GDP is to leave before it's too late !!! Far he went in his thoughts, more harm than good.

    Have you prepared a worthy replacement ?!
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 27 November 2017 21: 14 New
      +1
      There are no non-replaceable ones in Russia. All the first faces of the country adhere to this vector from the time of Ivan the Terrible to the present day. It is a pity that they do not think that this applies to them themselves. I have to remind.
  37. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 27 November 2017 16: 52 New
    0
    Quote: jjj
    In Arkhangelsk, a case was instituted against the rector of an entire university. There, they spoke about grants from the Barents region. And about helping foreign intelligence services. The rector’s contract expired. Shone a different kind of term. The university was led by another person. And suddenly, as if by magic, the case was stopped, the new rector was removed, and the old one was returned to the chair

    If you are talking about Kudryashova and Chicherina, then it was not quite like that.
  38. Lev Bronsch
    Lev Bronsch 27 November 2017 17: 45 New
    +5
    To the author - a big plus for the idea and artistry) 0. And alas, the same minus for not understanding the essence, namely the essence of what is happening with this performance !! By the way, I read the comments of members of the forum - about the same scheme - to teach young people the true story, the generation of the 90s / 2000s, etc.
    Recall the facts: - Kolya is the winner of the All-Russian Olympiad in History, - 2 more schoolchildren from the Russian Federation performed in the Bundestag (unfortunately I do not know for sure, but it seems from the same gymnasium), - the text of the speech goes through the preliminary approval process, alas, I did not find the name of this body of the Bundestag, but its deputies are unlikely to lie like that - the most interesting thing is that the speeches of the two remaining are even worse than Kolya, though “innocent people” are only in Kolya’s paper.
    For those interested, there are on YouTube. on the mass of resources there is Kohl's text!
    My opinion: the Germans had an overlay, because there is a regulation on the duration, then the youth’s speeches had to be cut, accordingly there was a squeeze of meanings and, by the way, rhetorical techniques !!
    Let us get into the meaning: 1. Why the so-called boiler? - because we have the Battle of Stalingrad, in German history - a boiler. Want to make a German nice? - say the so-called cauldron, - doubt the heroism of your side - BATTLE sounds! Lower the meaning of the event ... 2. Show how much you are interested in the fate of the citizens of the hosts of the speech. Specifically: even the young half-educated historian cannot but know about the suffering on both fronts, and that it was precisely the German and allied soldiers who brought this suffering to our country! But it speaks only of the suffering of German soldiers !! Further, where is Novy Urengoy, and where is Kopeysk - look at the map, and Kolya went there, I wonder when and at whose expense? But he says that he went, to admire the German churchyard and cry over it ... 3. Apotheosis !!! The phrase "innocent people rest here" immediately gives meaning to the absurdities stated above in the report! For if there is a cemetery of “innocent people”, I emphasize - the report does not contain the word “prisoners of war” (naturally, the structure will be destroyed), then the next question is who killed these “innocent people”. And look around - again, damn the evil Russians, the NKVD, the KGB-FSB, the horde and, in general, slaves.
    We understood the logic - if there are killed (we present the cemetery in Kopeysk) “innocent people” (we define them that way, carefully avoiding the term prisoners of war), that is, the executioners who killed these beautiful family men, many children, etc. (this is from the definition’s report), but the executioners are Russians who now need to pay and repent, repent and pay ... Well, if there is no money, then the noble Germans agree to take oil and gas - Novy Urengoy. That's the whole hell, to the penny (((
    Then blah blah, let's live in peace, war is bad. Yes Yes...
    In general, it’s already common place that the oil and gas sector of the Russian Federation is the stronghold of Ukraine in the Bandera-Shukhevy version. Just Kolya really wanted to make the Germans pleasant and licked right up to the tonsils, through the anus. But damn the rules, they brought the lad up to the monastery of Hans, again you understand zrada!)) In fact, this Kolya is a smart, ideologically motivated enemy, and moreover materially motivated - right away he opened the YouTube channel! Did you know? And this is a whole sector and the most important region in our country is inhabited by such stakes, but to shit them for someone’s suffering ((, they would have to grab a cookie from the hands of the “owner”, and what can I say and how to make the owner happy, well, not so much for us " non-brothers "to teach this. We would sweep such stakes with a filthy broom, and not lose the strategic industry together in the region.
    These are conclusions from a simple logical study of a coli report. Any objections? Let's discuss!
  39. Raphael_83
    Raphael_83 27 November 2017 17: 53 New
    0
    A good chronoopera turned out, I admit, only all one is useless - do not turn the system of pamphlets. negative
  40. Ivan Tartugai
    Ivan Tartugai 27 November 2017 19: 05 New
    +3
    In the photo, the Germans, soldiers and officers are posing against the background of the hanged and these are not rare people. There are many of them who posed against the background of the hanged girls and women, and the elderly, and partisan fighters.

    I saw photos of other freaks from Europe, namely the French, who posed against the background of the hanged and killed Vietnamese in the 50s. The bulk of Europeans consider themselves the highest race, and the rest are garbage.
    And this Kolya Devyatnichenko, a schoolboy from Urengoy, is simply a toilet paper for Germans from the Bundestag, not a person.
    Use and throw away.
  41. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 27 November 2017 20: 31 New
    +2
    "- Saw the stallions! Have you knocked down the little one and are you happy?"
    - Bring a little puppy here, drink some leaven. "(Elusive)
    A puppy is already "poisoned by Coca-Cola, a teacher and other" Western values ​​"(Caucasian)
    I watched a few videos. He no longer has the sparkle of life in his eyes. Everywhere is a zombie. And they have on the podium that we have here. Already not a man, killed. And the killer is free and at work.
    1. Ivan Tartugai
      Ivan Tartugai 27 November 2017 21: 11 New
      +1
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      Already not a man, killed.

      I agree.
      Nikolai Devyatnichenko, a schoolboy from Urengoy, sort of like a girl, a girl who sold or was sold only once, but she will be a prostitute for the rest of her life. Although she will live honestly after, but that's all, the dirty work has been done, she is in shit and will never be washed off. Her surroundings will always, until her death, remind her of who she is. Even relatives will be sorry, but they will be ashamed, and their children will be ashamed. So is Kolya Devyatnichenko, a schoolboy from Urengoy.
  42. Yarik
    Yarik 27 November 2017 20: 59 New
    +1
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QebSygMn05o

    Klim Alexandrovich, as always, is splendidly stated.
  43. nov_tech.vrn
    nov_tech.vrn 27 November 2017 22: 03 New
    +2
    this is only one of the facets of sabotage against our memory, on November 27, 2017, the history channel, like the necessary thing is a broadcast about Stalingrad, and now the broadcaster with iron in his voice starts broadcasting lies, like the NKVD barrage detachments drove the crowds with machine-gun fire people under enemy fire, and this lie will be cooler than the lies of the bought boy, this is the level of Solzhenitsyn and Suvorov-Rezvun.
  44. asiat_61
    asiat_61 28 November 2017 03: 47 New
    +1
    Kolya wanted to go to Germany for free. But for this it was necessary to crap all over the world, and he crap.
    1. weksha50
      weksha50 28 November 2017 21: 48 New
      0
      Quote: asiat_61
      Kolya wanted to go to Germany for free. But for this it was necessary to crap all over the world, and he crap.


      Today, a letter was posted from Germany, just from a former German prisoner of war ...
      And how everything is perceived completely differently ... And everything is quite the opposite ...

      A letter from a former German prisoner of war to a student from Novy Urengoy ...

      Source: http://mpshmir.ru/blog/43927643738/Pismo-byivsheg
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  45. WERSTA.
    WERSTA. 28 November 2017 05: 54 New
    +1
    Pity on the basis of the “on-child” principle caused disasters to many of our former republics through different color and flower revolutions that came from outside. Pitying such high school students throwing rash phrases about the Second World War to please the country, which they paid for through trips because of the cordon. I wanted to “lick” "in gratitude, but did the greatest nonsense, which for a long time will remain in the memory of citizens who remember well why their grandfathers died.
  46. Natalia muler
    Natalia muler 28 November 2017 10: 40 New
    0
    It would not be so scary if Kohl from Urengoy was an exception to the universal modern reality. But after all, already two generations of modern youth are victims of the USE, and they write compositions no better than this Kolya. Here is an essay - a masterpiece of an unknown graduate of a modern school.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6J90CdyBovA
  47. Mista_dj
    Mista_dj 28 November 2017 12: 47 New
    0
    nerd of it - head on the table!
    I have both grandfathers from the beginning to the end went through the whole war ...
    I do not take jokes on such topics (((
  48. iaroslav.mudryi
    iaroslav.mudryi 28 November 2017 13: 42 New
    +3
    Dear forum users, moderators! There is a proposal to bring this topic (Victims of the Great Patriotic War 1941-1945 years) to a separate branch or even a site that could exist and be updated for a long time, where anyone could publish the memories of their loved ones, participants in the war or re-post articles and materials from Internet on this topic. I come from Belarus, partisan region, where the fascists (not only Germans, but also Latvians, Lithuanians, etc.) destroyed a quarter of the population of the whole republic. And in order to confront such “boys with urengoy stakes” and their curators, I suggest driving them to the cinema and showing the film “Go and See” (the film was shot based on the works of Ales Adamovich “Khatyn Story”, “Partisans” and “Punishers”), in 1985, when the film was released on the screen, classes were canceled in Belarusian schools and schoolchildren were given classes to watch this VERY HEAVY film so that they knew and remembered ... Kolya Kravchenko (then the boy plays the main role, now a famous Russian actor) recalled that on set personally for I was a child psychologist, so that the young actor would not go crazy from those naturalistic scenes that were shot by Elem Klimov. And near the movie theaters where the film was on, ambulances were on duty ...

  49. iaroslav.mudryi
    iaroslav.mudryi 28 November 2017 13: 47 New
    +3
    .... and more http://labas.livejournal.com/904941.html
    Sönke Neitzel / Harald Welzer: Soldaten. Protokolle vom Kämpfen, Töten und Sterben, S. Fischer Verlag, 2011
    Protocols of wiretapping of prisoners of war German soldiers and officers, my translation. Igor Petrov

    direct speech
    GRAPH: The infantry said that when they escorted the Russians to the rear, the 3-4 prisoners of the day did not receive any food, they began to fall. The convoy was always ready, I added them on the skull from myself, and they are already dead. The rest pounced on them, tearing them up and eating them right on the spot.

    NEUFFER: Transporting the Russians to the rear from Vyazma is where the horror was.
    RIMANN: We also had horror, I once escorted a train from Korosten to almost Lemberg. They, like animals, were driven out of cars, yielding with sticks, so that they would maintain order and order, and be driven to a watering place. At the stations, there were such troughs, they like animals threw themselves at them and lapped up water, then they gave them a bit to eat. Then they were again driven into wagons, 60-70 people in a calf wagon! At each stop, ten corpses were pulled out, they were suffocating from a lack of oxygen. I heard this, I was driving in the camp guard car and asked the sergeant major, such a student with glasses, an intellectual: “How long have you been doing this?” “Four weeks, but I can’t stand it anymore, I want to get away from here, I can’t stand it anymore " At the stations, the Russians watched from the cracks in the cars and how the animals roared in Russian, "Bread! Good God!" and so forth and threw away their old tunics and boots, then the children appeared and brought them pumpkins. Pumpkins were thrown inside, and immediately there was a roar and bestial roar, probably they mutuzi each other. I was just no, I sat in a corner, pulled my greatcoat over my head. He asked the guard: "What, you have no food?" He told me: "Mr. Lieutenant Colonel, where did you get her. Nothing is prepared."
    NEUFFER: No, no, really, just an unimaginable nightmare. Only a convoy of prisoners after Vyazma and Bryansk, the prisoners were on foot, to Smolensk. I often drove this section by car — the ditches were full of shot Russians — a nightmare!

    SIRI: You can't talk about it out loud, but we were too soft. And now we are trapped along with all the cruelties. But if we were one hundred percent cruel - so that people would disappear without a trace, then no one would say anything. Half measures are the mistake.
    In the East, I once suggested in the corps - it was there that it was necessary to send thousands of prisoners of war to the rear, but there were not enough guards. In France, everything would be alright, the Frenchman is so degenerate, you would tell him: “Go there and report your arrival at the prison camp”, and this stupid monkey really went there. But in Russia, between the front front of the tanks and the dense mass of troops behind it was 50-80 kilometers, two or three day crossings. No Russian will get there, let him go, he will, he will, and then once, left and right, and already in the woods he lives calmly for himself. Well, I said: "What can I do, it’s necessary to chop off people’s legs or break their legs, or break their right arm so that they are not combat ready in the next four weeks, and therefore they could be assembled." Such a cry came up when I said that you just need to slam people with a crowbar on the leg. I then also did not fully realize myself, but today I think that I was right. We saw: we cannot wage war, because we are not tough enough, we do not have enough barbarism. Not like Russian.

    GERIKE: In Russia, last year, a small German detachment was sent to the same village with some kind of task. In the area occupied by the Germans. In the village, a detachment was attacked and everyone was killed. After that, the punitive team arrived. There were 50 men in the village. 49 were shot, and the latter was chased throughout the district, so that everyone knew what would happen to the population if attacked by German soldiers.

    KERLE: In the Caucasus, in the first mountain jaeger, if one of ours was killed, the lieutenant did not even have to order anything. The gun was pulled out, women, children, everyone who came to hand ...
    KNEIPP: Once, near Novgorod, partisans attacked the convoy with the wounded, they killed everyone. Half an hour later they were seized, thrown into a sand pit and from all sides with machine guns and pistols ...
    KERLE: One must not shoot such people; they are supposed to kill them slowly. Cossacks in the fight against partisans were what I needed, I saw on the southern front.

    MUELLER: There were partisans in one village in Russia. It is clear that the village must be razed to the ground, without regard to losses. We had this ... Brozike from Berlin, he took everyone he saw in the village behind the house and shot him in the back of the head. But the guy was then twenty or even nineteen and a half. It was said: to shoot every tenth. “And that every tenth is clear,” the guys said, “the whole village needs to be cleaned up.” We filled the beer bottles with gasoline, put them on the table, and, leaving, sort of casually threw hand grenades behind us. Everything immediately went up to the ceiling - thatched roofs. Women, children, all were shot, partisans among them were few. In such cases, I did not shoot if I was not sure that these were really partisans. But there were many guys who enjoyed it a lot.
  50. iaroslav.mudryi
    iaroslav.mudryi 28 November 2017 13: 48 New
    +3
    ..... continued
    KITTEL: In Latvia, in Dunaburg, there were mass executions of Jews. SS or SD. The SD had about fifteen people there and about sixty Latvians, who are considered to be the most cruel people in the world. And on Sunday morning I lay in bed and suddenly I hear two lines, followed by pistol shots. I get up, go out, say: "What kind of shooting is there?" The orderly tells me: "Mr. Colonel, you must go there yourself, you will see." I did not come close, it was enough for me. 300 people were driven from Dunaburg, they dug a moat, men and women dug a common grave and returned home. The next day they were driven again - men, women, children - counted, stripped naked. The executioners piled their clothes. Then they put twenty women on the edge of the moat, naked, a shot, and they fall down.
    FELBERT: And how was this done?
    KITTEL: Face to the ditch, twenty Latvians stand behind and at the same time shoot rifles at the back of the head. At the moat, they made such a step, so that the people being shot stood lower. They came up behind, shot in the head, and these fell down into the moat. Then twenty men, also in one gulp. One gives the command, and twenty people fly down. Then the worst began, but I left, said: "I will intervene." I got into the car, drove to these from the SD and said: “I forbid once and for all to shoot here with spectators. If you shoot people in the woods or somewhere else where no one sees, this is your business. But this should not last a day more. We have drinking water from local springs, now it will all be with a cadaverous smell. " It was at the Mezciems resort north of Dunaburg.
    FELBERT: And what did they do with the children?
    KITTEL (very excited): They took children, three-year-olds by their hair, lifted, shot from a pistol and threw down. I saw it myself. One could watch there, the SD set up a cordon, but at 300 meters there were people — Latvians, German soldiers — and stared.
    FELBERT: And what are these people from the SD?
    KITTEL: Abomination! I believe they themselves would be shot.
    FELBERT: Where, from which unit?
    KITTEL: Germans, they had the uniform SD and a black patch with the inscription Sonderdienst.
    FELBERT: But the executioners were all Latvians?
    KITTEL: Yes, all Latvians.
    FELBERT: But the German commanded?
    KITTEL: Yes, on the whole, the Germans disposed, and on the little things the Latvians. Latvians searched all clothes. But this one from the SD came to meet me: "So, it will be transferred to another place." Only Jews were there; they were driven from all over the area. Latvians with bandages on their hands - Jews were taken away and then cleaned up, it was a mass exasperation against the Jews in Dunaburg, popular anger was looking for a way out.
    FELBERT: Against the Jews?
    SCHEFER: Yes, because the Russians then exiled 60000 Estonians and others. But of course it was artificially ignited. Tell me, what impression did these people make? Have you seen what a man looks like before being shot? Did they cry?
    KITTEL: That was terrible. I saw how they were being taken, but I did not realize then that they were being taken to execution.
    SCHEFER: And people guessed what awaits them?
    KITTEL: They knew for sure, were in apathy. I don’t have weak nerves, but when you see this, it just turns you around, I always said: "So you stop being a person, it has nothing to do with the conduct of war." My adjutant was the chief chemist IG Farben, and since he couldn’t find another occupation, he was also once sent to look ... He was then no good for weeks. He sat in the corner and howled. He said: "If you imagine that this happens everywhere!". He was a famous chemist and musician with a sensitive nervous system.
    FELBERT: That’s why Finland and Romania backed away from us, that’s why everybody hates us - not because of one case, but because of mass character.
    KITTEL: If you kill all the Jews in the world, then there will be no one to blame.
    FELBERT: (in extreme excitement, shouting): But it’s clear, it’s such a disgrace, not only Jews can blame, we can blame ourselves, we must blame people who did it.
    KITTEL: Then I must say: the state apparatus was built incorrectly.
    FELBERT (screaming): Clearly what is wrong, no doubt about it. Incredibly simple.
    BRAN: We're just guns ...
    FELBERT: But then they will hang it on us, as if we were to blame.
    BRAN: Today, if you are a German general, then people think: "He knew everything, and that too," and if we say: "This has nothing to do with us," then people will not believe us. All hatred and all antipathy is only due to these murders, and here I have to say - if you believe in higher justice at all, then if I have five children, then you deserve that one or two will be killed in the same way, as revenge. If you shed blood like this, but you do not deserve victory, but only what happened.
    FELBERT: I do not know by whose order it was done, if Himmler, then he is the main criminal. You are the first general from whom I heard this. I always believed their writings, a complete lie.
    KITTEL: I am silent about many things, they are too terrible.