Weekend reading. The defunct army of Andorra and Prince Macron

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In the “Favorite Weekend” rubric “Military Review” presents a small information sketch about one of the non-NATO power structures of Europe. It's about the power (albeit with a stretch) of the structure of the country, surrounded by the states of the North Atlantic military bloc. This is Andorra and its "analog" of the armed forces. Analog is very peculiar.

In fact, Andorra’s own army, whose population is about 85 thousand, does not exist. The functions of the main power structure in this tiny country are performed by the police, which is simultaneously responsible for border control. At the same time, the number of police officers in Andorra has fluctuated from 200 to 250 for many years. It is worth paying attention to the fact that there is currently no rank and file in the Andorran police. All police officers have the rank of officer.



Weekend reading. The defunct army of Andorra and Prince Macron


Andorra has not only the army as such, but also the sole head of state. The de jure state is sovereign and defines itself as a principality, but with real princes in Andorra problems. To date, the official heads of the country are two people at once, one of whom is French President Emmanuel Macron, and the other is the Spanish Archbishop Joan Enric Vives-i-Sicilla. They have the official titles of the "skolnyazey." This is about the "independence" of individual European powers and that in Europe "no one ever intrudes into the affairs of foreign states." Despite the fact that Andorra is actually ruled from Paris and Madrid, for some reason they do not call the situation in the European family ... They do not see anything reprehensible in the fact that the overwhelming majority of the country's inhabitants have long acquired passports of French citizens or Spanish nationals.

Returning to the power structure - in service with the law enforcement officers and the borders of Andorra - small weapon.



These are the Italian self-loading Beretta 92 (9 × 19 mm), the Swiss-German Sig Sauer P226 (9 × 19 mm Parabellum), the SIG Sauer Pro, the German HK MP5 submachine gun (Heckler & Koch MP5), the Italian smooth-bore semi-automatic self-loading rifle Benelli M4 Super 90 caliber 18,5 mm.

The Andorran Police Department reports that lately, the composition of the security structure has participated in anti-terrorism exercises, as well as in a training operation to detain drug criminals.




The exercises and operations are carried out with the direct participation of instructors from Spain.

It is officially announced that the army (what they call it) of Andorra, formed in the 13 century, never in its history in military conflicts did not participate.
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  1. +6
    25 November 2017 13: 54
    that the army (what they are called) of Andorra, formed in the 13th century, has never taken part in military conflicts in its history.
    Clearly, the invisible army. Probably the coolest ninja, let's go study?
    1. +5
      25 November 2017 13: 56
      Let’s go, maybe the Beretta will be presented with a dream ... recourse
      1. +1
        25 November 2017 17: 40
        Okay, now nobody cares about them, but over 7 centuries, how many wars swept across Europe?
        And over the centuries, no one tried to conquer them? In Europe? I DO NOT BELIEVE.
        Most likely they immediately surrendered to any conqueror, stipulating for their complaisance the "special status" of their country. And as soon as the conqueror had difficulties, they immediately refused the oath. Well, about how Finland entered tsarist Russia.
        I can’t blame them. People were cherished. For only 7 centuries without wars, hundreds of millions should already be there. Why are there so few of them?
        1. 0
          25 November 2017 18: 12
          Quote: Shurik70
          Okay, now nobody cares about them, but over the 7 centuries, how many wars swept across Europe? And over the centuries, no one tried to conquer them? In Europe? I DO NOT BELIEVE.
          Most likely surrendered immediately to any conqueror

          And Switzerland, located in the Center of Europe, was also conquered by you both in the WWII and WWII. Do not believe sign up for a library or google ....
          But in the 7 centuries without wars, hundreds of millions should already be there. Why are there so few of them?

          Open the map of Western Europe and see where Andorra is and what it is (apparently the next article will be about the Monaco army, by the way, also between France and Spain) ..... then there will not be such stupid questions ....
          1. +2
            25 November 2017 18: 51
            Bullying your nose, poking at one you know facts .... In general, a silly comment, think before you write something! hi
            1. 0
              25 November 2017 18: 58
              Quote: _Buryat_
              Bullying your nose, poking at one you know facts .... In general, a silly comment, think before you write something! hi

              I wrote well-known facts, if you do not agree with this then:
              sign up to the Library or google ....

              I don’t want to communicate with you, because you are rude and provoke me to be rude towards you and your family, and this is a violation of the site, but I’ll write you down to the troll ....
              1. +2
                25 November 2017 19: 30
                Switzerland is not an argument. Their mercenary units - it was a brand. Almost the entire adult male population was not at home, but served somewhere outside the country. At home there were old people, women and youth. Almost the entire country is in a mountainous inaccessible area, populated by frostbitten youth under the guidance of experienced veterans who survived in dozens of wars. There were no morons, poking in there.
                But France constantly fought with Spain. And troops went back and forth across the border. Andorra is far from a peaceful place.
              2. +2
                25 November 2017 21: 49
                Quote: MOSKVITYANIN
                I don’t want to communicate with you, because you are rude and provoke me to be rude towards you and your family, and this is a violation of the site, but I’ll write you down to the troll ....

                1. I have not been rude to you!
                2. I did not poke you!
                3. I didn’t touch your relatives!
                4. I ask you, next time to think before, to give away your opus, for something outstanding! negative
                1. +2
                  25 November 2017 22: 04
                  "however, in the troll, I will write you down ...."
                  However, this is already according to S. Lavorov. (with) laughing
                  Record anywhere the doctor of non-historical sciences! wassat
                2. 0
                  25 November 2017 22: 09
                  Quote: _Buryat_
                  Quote: MOSKVITYANIN
                  I don’t want to communicate with you, because you are rude and provoke me to be rude towards you and your family, and this is a violation of the site, but I’ll write you down to the troll ....

                  1. I have not been rude to you!
                  2. I did not poke you!
                  3. I didn’t touch your relatives!
                  4. I ask you, next time to think before, to give away your opus, for something outstanding! negative

                  I did not impose on you interlocutors go go to another site, they say good people are sitting on Censer ....
                  1. +2
                    25 November 2017 22: 28
                    So I’m talking about the same thing ... Stupid insinuations of yours there (on the censor) and put it out, there they will support you! Entirely and directly!
                    I repeat about the interlocutors according to S. Lavrov. (c) - db!
                    Go troll elsewhere !!!
        2. +3
          25 November 2017 23: 10
          Quote: Shurik70
          And over the centuries, no one tried to conquer them? In Europe? I DO NOT BELIEVE

          And I believe. Who needs a valley in the mountains, which is only suitable for a mountain ski resort? Andorra, it’s like the “elusive Joe”, it’s just that nobody fell into FIG.
          1. 0
            25 November 2017 23: 52
            Quote: Orionvit
            Quote: Shurik70
            And over the centuries, no one tried to conquer them? In Europe? I DO NOT BELIEVE

            And I believe. Who needs a valley in the mountains, which is only suitable for a mountain ski resort? Andorra, it’s like the “elusive Joe”, it’s just that nobody fell into FIG.

            Tell it to our oligarchs and officials .....
            1. +1
              26 November 2017 11: 37
              Quote: MOSKVITYANIN
              Tell it to our oligarchs and officials ....

              And here it is? Or is there a desire, for any reason, to arrange political debate? About how everything is "bad" in Russia. Actually, the conversation is now about Andorra.
              1. 0
                26 November 2017 12: 31
                Quote: Orionvit
                Quote: MOSKVITYANIN
                Tell it to our oligarchs and officials ....

                And here it is? Or is there a desire, for any reason, to arrange political debate? About how everything is "bad" in Russia. Actually, the conversation is now about Andorra.

                And I, too, are you trying to prove to me that nobody needs Andorra, but I say the opposite, you would need it if you had money, gee ....
      2. 0
        26 November 2017 00: 54
        Let's go, maybe Beretta will be presented with a dream ... recourse
        Do you need a 90 caliber shotgun? belay
    2. +6
      25 November 2017 14: 01
      And then ...! They so intimidated the neighbors that no one dares to attack them for seven centuries. Even the Germans, after the complete occupation of France, did not meddle with them! smile
      1. +8
        25 November 2017 14: 03
        Quote: dzvero
        And then ...! They so intimidated the neighbors that no one dares to attack them for seven centuries. Even the Germans, after the complete occupation of France, did not meddle with them! smile

        Remind a joke about the `` elusive '' Joe?
        1. +4
          25 November 2017 15: 38
          Alexander, nuuuu, if you recall the boy of their film "The Leader of the Redskins" ... Indeed, who needs it?
      2. +5
        25 November 2017 15: 08
        By the way. There was no full occupation of France. Half of the country is south, there was the Vichy government. They, together with Franco, were responsible for Andorra.
        Quote: dzvero
        And then ...! They so intimidated the neighbors that no one dares to attack them for seven centuries. Even the Germans, after the complete occupation of France, did not meddle with them! smile
        1. +1
          25 November 2017 17: 31
          But it’s possible to joke about the sad fact.
      3. +3
        25 November 2017 17: 30
        The Germans simply did not find them! Or passing by without noticing. smile
  2. +2
    25 November 2017 13: 57
    cool, is it even a country ?, what for do we need such formations
    1. +4
      25 November 2017 14: 09
      Quote: poquello
      cool, is it even a country ?, what for do we need such formations

      Read the story.
      There is a war France-Spain or some graters. And you can calmly sit down and agree to a rollback for a bottle (meaning for a bottle). Idylls.
      1. 0
        25 November 2017 14: 25
        Quote: Mavrikiy
        Quote: poquello
        cool, is it even a country ?, what for do we need such formations

        Read the story.
        There is a war France-Spain or some graters. And you can calmly sit down and agree to a rollback for a bottle (meaning for a bottle). Idylls.

        those are not a country but a historical bourgeois memory
    2. +4
      25 November 2017 14: 09
      Quote: poquello
      cool, is it a country at all?


      Hey. Nominally, yes.
      1. +8
        25 November 2017 16: 48
        It is officially stated that the army (what they call it) of Andorra, formed in the 13 century, has never taken part in military conflicts in its history.


        They survived and do not live badly for themselves, this is enough for them.
    3. +2
      25 November 2017 14: 09
      Quote: poquello
      cool, is it even a country ?, what for do we need such formations

      Vi some kind of distant tovarisch, And win a football? There are many delegations you have as the chairman of the city committee of the Komsomol of the city of Magadan. Can you handle it? drinks
      1. +2
        25 November 2017 14: 38
        Quote: Tusv
        Quote: poquello
        cool, is it even a country ?, what for do we need such formations

        Vi some kind of distant tovarisch, And win a football? There are many delegations you have as the chairman of the city committee of the Komsomol of the city of Magadan. Can you handle it? drinks


        but with the Chelyabinsk villages an interesting idea slipped through, the UN General Assembly can be driven out of the baseboard)
      2. +2
        25 November 2017 15: 43
        Vladimir, do you want to build a Komsomol city of the future in Magadan? Well, if you amend the state budget, we’ll build not only the Komsomol city, but also communism!
        1. 0
          25 November 2017 16: 01
          Quote: abakina
          Vladimir, do you want to build a Komsomol city of the future in Magadan?

          I know that everyone will settle in parallel with Tverskaya drinks The future city should be built by prisoners.
        2. +11
          25 November 2017 16: 04
          Slavik, welcome!
          Quote: sabakina
          Vladimir, do you want to build a Komsomol city of the future in Magadan? Well, if you amend the state budget, we’ll build not only the Komsomol city, but also communism!

          1. +1
            25 November 2017 17: 37
            Did you want to say "the lie continues"?
            I am for communism. I am for Putin's Plan.
            But the carriers, in the sense of a witch or leader, or .... are in doubt.
            First, Stalin, then communism and the Putin Plan (maybe 2 plan).
            Or maybe Communism and the Plan.
            1. +9
              25 November 2017 18: 08
              Reading between the lines is a valuable skill! good
            2. 0
              25 November 2017 18: 17
              Quote: Mavrikiy
              Did you want to say "the lie continues"?
              I am for communism. I am for Putin's Plan.
              But the carriers, in the sense of a witch or leader, or .... are in doubt.
              First, Stalin, then communism and the Putin Plan (maybe 2 plan).
              Or maybe Communism and the Plan.

              Simple plan without everyone and everything .... in one person .....
  3. +5
    25 November 2017 13: 57
    With a population of the principality of 85.000 people, I don’t even know what to call these 200-250: only the "city guard" comes to mind.
    1. +3
      25 November 2017 14: 07
      It is believed that the best option for the ratio of army to population is 1,5%! Including the police ... So this is not enough, you need 1000 more, at least!
      1. +3
        25 November 2017 14: 11
        What for? From whom to defend?
        1. +12
          25 November 2017 14: 19
          You don’t know? From Russia, of course!
          Oh, you, the whole world has long unraveled the plans of the Kremlin! belay
          1. +9
            25 November 2017 14: 22
            Well what kind of people - just thought, but he already wrote! lol
            Max hi
            1. +3
              25 November 2017 17: 59
              Quote: Ragnar lodbrok
              You don’t know? From Russia, of course!
              Oh, you, the whole world has long unraveled the plans of the Kremlin!

              Quote: Logall
              Well what kind of people - just thought, but he already wrote!

              What day is this today? Well, give at least one day off to Russians ??? wink
              1. +10
                25 November 2017 18: 11
                No days off! You can’t relax - they will love it!
                1. +3
                  25 November 2017 18: 15
                  Sasha, you know - I'm a calm person. But I’ll tear someone apart like a toad! To me my "Darling" and the correct spotter ...
              2. +2
                25 November 2017 19: 47
                Quote: Jedi
                What day is this today?


                Maxim, you need to keep your eyes on, so that his life doesn’t seem like sugar, but black coffee without sugar. So I'll throw you something. We are building the Crimean bridge, and on the desks of the designers rustling sheets with the project of the bridge to Sakhalin. So what kind of fig Andorra is there.
                1. +3
                  25 November 2017 19: 52
                  Thank you Leo! drinks I am already meditating. wink
                  1. +2
                    25 November 2017 19: 57
                    Quote: Jedi
                    I'm already meditating


                    Tambourine bring?
                    1. +4
                      25 November 2017 20: 11
                      If only join. wink
                      1. +2
                        25 November 2017 20: 17
                        Quote: Jedi
                        If only join


                        I have already "meditated", there will be a bust twice. And "Levizovskaya" was good for cold smoked halibut. good
                    2. +3
                      25 November 2017 20: 35
                      Quote: Lelek
                      I have already "meditated", there will be a bust twice. And "Levizovskaya" was good for cold smoked halibut.

                      I am very grateful to providence that I know you. hi
                      1. +1
                        26 November 2017 11: 37
                        Quote: Jedi
                        I am very grateful to providence that I know you.


                        You know me only by writing symbols. Actually, I'm a big bastard. bully
                    3. +3
                      26 November 2017 11: 43
                      a lion hi
                      Quote: Lelek
                      Quote: Jedi
                      I am very grateful to providence that I know you.


                      You know me only by writing symbols. Actually, I'm a big bastard. bully

                      Not everyone is able to admit it, so I do not refuse my words. drinks
                      1. +1
                        26 November 2017 12: 05
                        Quote: Jedi
                        Jedi


                        My answer is cartoonish: "Thank you, Cheburashka, you are a true friend."
  4. +2
    25 November 2017 13: 58
    Such a force is direct, in Russia some Chelyabinsk villages will be abruptly. laughing
    1. +10
      25 November 2017 14: 40
      Quote: Altona
      some Chelyabinsk villages

      Chelyabinsk - the cast-iron heart of Russia!
  5. +4
    25 November 2017 14: 00
    Despite the fact that Andorra is actually ruled from Paris and Madrid, for some reason no one calls the situation in the European family an occupation ...

    What nafig occupation? Well, why juggle? The political status of Andorra is determined by the agreement of 1288 (13 century Karl !!!). Further, I will simply give an excerpt from an article about this state:
    In order to establish peace after a century-long dispute between the two lords of the feudal lords, in 1278 a peace treaty was signed, which was modified ten years later. An agreement was signed between the bishop of La Seu d'Urgell from neighboring Spain (Andorra was included in the diocese of this bishop) and Count Foix of France. Interestingly, this was the first known formal truce in the world with the intention of creating a demilitarized zone. It was under these treaties that the feudal rights of possession of Andorra were divided between the two lords, and all fortifications and armies were banned in Andorra. At the beginning of the 15 century, Andorra was granted limited political autonomy, and in the 1982 year, the right to complete internal self-government.
    When the constitution was signed in Andorra in 1993, the distant successors to those first feudal lords became the united and inseparable constitutional monarchs of Andorra. The Catholic bishops of La Seu have been around for more than 1000 years, while the Counts of Foix ceased to be born after 1607. The rights and privileges of the count to the half of the throne of Andorra passed to the President of France. Besides the fact that Andorra is the only country in the world with two heads of state, the so-called co-princes, as they are called in Andorra, it is also the only heads of state in the world that foreigners appoint. Andorra has absolutely no control over who will become the president of France and only by concordat, limited right to consult with the Vatican, Andorra can somewhat affect the appointment of the Bishop.
  6. +6
    25 November 2017 14: 08
    Cool place, I was there.
    It stands in the gorge - in order to build something new, you need to demolish something old.
    In stores, sellers are a quarter Russian-speaking, if not a third, for tourist loshariki are brought there from all over Spain under the slogan: Andorra is a country without VAT, without customs duties and everything is cheaper there than in the EU. The scheme works with a bang. I took a drink too - I bought a beer (and drank it immediately) and a magnet!
    And on the streets, policemen with some stripes (officers?), Sometimes with dogs, really dignified. Polite and friendly. Tourists are treated as a good host to their Burenka.
  7. +3
    25 November 2017 14: 26
    From the point of view of people in uniform - complete nonsense.
    BUT..!
    There is practically no one without work, and the minimum wage is 1000 euros per month. And they do not care who the prince is, or the count. Moreover, "NATO" protects.
    True, without tourists, their economy is karachun. .
  8. +1
    25 November 2017 15: 36
    With all this, the per capita GDP there is 53 383 dollars, unlike the Russian Federation, where 22 540. People live long. In terms of lifespan, Andorra is 20 in the world (for comparison, Russia is in 116 place with a lifespan of 70.1 of the year). The average life expectancy here is 81,3 years. In local villages, 90-100-year old frisky elders in their right mind and solid memory is an everyday occurrence. About 8,3 million tourists come to Andorra every year - this is the principal income of the principality. Been there passage - clean, beautiful.
    1. +1
      25 November 2017 17: 49
      Mnya-mnya-mnya.
      There are no plants. Ecology is normal. Live 100 years, “do not die! That's what life is” (Chapaev)
      We will also make such a life for ourselves, so for the last time, and forever, we will turn the adversary into boshka ..... And there will be peace in all the land.
      1. +1
        25 November 2017 18: 03
        Quote: Mavrikiy
        Mnya-mnya-mnya.
        There are no plants. Ecology is normal. Live 100 years, “do not die! That's what life is” (Chapaev)
        We will also make such a life for ourselves, so for the last time, and forever, we will turn the adversary into boshka ..... And there will be peace in all the land.

        "Blessed is he who believes - warmly to him in the world!" (C) hi
  9. +2
    25 November 2017 17: 10
    Quote: A. Privalov
    At the same time, GDP per capita is 53 383 dollars, unlike in the Russian Federation, where 22 is 540.

    --------------------------
    You yourself write about 8,3 million tourists. So if everyone spends a little, then GDP will be hoo in terms of per capita of an aborigine. Comparison is incorrect.
    1. 0
      25 November 2017 18: 11
      Quote: Altona
      Quote: A. Privalov
      At the same time, GDP per capita is 53 383 dollars, unlike in the Russian Federation, where 22 is 540.

      --------------------------
      You yourself write about 8,3 million tourists. So if everyone spends a little, then GDP will be hoo in terms of per capita of an aborigine. Comparison is incorrect.

      But there is no oil there, no other minerals, no forests, no land, no wide rivers, no deep seas ... hi
  10. 0
    26 November 2017 14: 55
    Quote: A. Privalov
    But there is no oil there, no other minerals, no forests, no land, no wide rivers, no deep seas ...

    -------------------------------------------
    From wide rivers, deep seas, forests and oil, GDP still needs to be extracted. That is, to build processing plants and infrastructure for them in the form of roads and pipelines. It's not a stall to put Chinese souvenirs and Bangladeshi t-shirts. hi
  11. 0
    26 November 2017 23: 27
    stop arguing, gentlemen - all are right a little bit. just look at the map and you will see the most important thing - the road through the Pyrenees passes through Andorra, which means that all the aggressors and liberators passed there, who are not lazy, starting from the Romans and to the French "poppies", a complete list of them should be written to be lazy. no one officially seized the territory - indeed, such a trifle, 1,5 valleys. but this is not an indicator. the Germans won Denmark in a day and resisted there, it seems, only the guards of the palace, and Luxembourg did so through and through, without noticing, in both world wars. such is the destiny of micro-states. one thing is surprising - why is it "Moreover, the number of police in Andorra has been fluctuating between 200 and 250 for many years now?" well - part of it goes to the football team. someone languishes from idleness and goes to the local Ministry of Emergencies - there you can at least save tourists. but 25% is too much! belay

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