The head of the LPR Igor Plotnitsky resigned for health reasons

The head of the proclaimed Luhansk People's Republic (LNR), Igor Plotnitsky, resigned for health reasons. This is stated in a statement by the head of the Ministry of State Security (MGB) of the republic, Leonid Pasechnik, posted on the website Friday Luganskinformtsentra.

Affected by numerous war wounds, the consequences of concussion. In accordance with his decision, I will take up the duties of the head of the Republic until the forthcoming elections. I am grateful to Igor Venediktovich for his decision and confidence. Igor Venediktovich made a great contribution to the peace process. He is one of the signatories of the Minsk Agreements, today he is appointed by the representative of the Luhansk People's Republic for the implementation of the Minsk Agreements. I also declare my commitment to the Minsk agreements. The republic will consistently fulfill the obligations assumed in accordance with these agreements. The Council of Ministers, the People’s Council of the LPR and other authorities continue to operate normally. For my part, I want to assure the residents of the LC that I will do everything in my power for the benefit of the residents of the Luhansk region.

- said in a statement

Plotnitsky's statement on the resignation and appointment of the Acting Head of the Republic Pasechnik entered the people's council of the LC.

Comments

[Ural resident]

Interestingly, the process of unification with the DPR will now go uphill or will it still remain?
And what will Cornet lead?

[Chinganchuk]

Quote: Resident of the Urals

Interestingly, the process of unification with the DPR will now go uphill or will it still remain?

Everything goes to unification ... Makhnovschina ends! Ahead of serious business will be ..

[210ox]

God forbid! In general, this is a natural ending. The man could not cope and .... almost burned out at work ..

Quote: Chingangchuk

Quote: Resident of the Urals

Interestingly, the process of unification with the DPR will now go uphill or will it still remain?

Everything goes to unification ... Makhnovschina ends! Ahead of serious business will be ..

[Zibelew]

Quote: 210ox

almost burned out at work ..

Yeah. Nearly. Let's hope that the arrival of Plotnitsky in Russia (at least temporarily, at least forever) will benefit both the DPR and LPR, and possibly New Russia.

[Alber]

Quote: Zibelew

Quote: 210ox

almost burned out at work ..

Yeah. Nearly. Let's hope that the arrival of Plotnitsky in Russia (at least temporarily, at least forever) will benefit both the DPR and LPR, and possibly New Russia.

He should be sentenced to the tower

[cniza]

We are witnessing historical events that will begin to develop in the near future and will be recorded in textbooks for future generations.

[BLOND]

Quote: cniza

We are witnessing historical events that will begin to develop in the near future and will be recorded in textbooks for future generations.

Which go to the LPR, as in the USSR (the worst manifestation)
Please relieve me of ballet on TV and shaking hands close-up
Tell the people of Lugansk People’s Republic the truth - HE deserves it!

[kapitan92]

Quote: BLOND

Tell the people of Lugansk People’s Republic the truth - HE deserves it!

The former head of the self-proclaimed Luhansk People's Republic, Igor Plotnitsky, has been appointed commissioner for the execution of the Minsk agreements. This is stated in the statement of the Minister of State Security of the LPR Leonid Pasechnik, published on the website of the Luhansk Information Center.

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[cniza]

Which go to the LPR, as in the USSR (the worst manifestation)
Please relieve me of ballet on TV and shaking hands close-up
Tell the people of Lugansk People’s Republic the truth - HE deserves it!

Who owes what to whom? sort it out, I understand you and regret that people are suffering, the Chinese have such a curse - "that you would live in an era of change", from this point of view, ordinary people were not lucky.

[hrych]

Quote: cniza

Who owes what to whom?

There are still accountants on the planet
But help came unexpectedly, from where no one was waiting for her

[Observer2014]

hrych

But help came unexpectedly, from where no one was waiting for her

Everything is being prepared for the demolition of the United States. All the rules! For such a thing, Israel, like Khrest in the bosom, will continue to live. :

[Paranoid50]

Quote: hrych

But help came unexpectedly

Damn it, how did I miss it ... It will be necessary to check in the morning - the Neva is still flowing into the bay or turned into Ladoga ... Damn, and there is nothing to say ...

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: hrych

But help came unexpectedly, from where no one was waiting for her

the setup was covered up with the ffsem of the cIFFilized world !!!

[midivan]

Quote: hrych

But help came unexpectedly, from where no one was waiting for her

It’s interesting, how many hectares will the Golan Heights grow?

[askort154]

grunt ....But help came unexpectedly, from where no one was waiting for her.

Cool "gathering" Just as I did not peer, she did not see there a single Israeli from our site. Aw .... "professor" .. voyaka ..... alta .... "Krasnodar", ...... respond
.

[Tusv]

Quote: BLOND

worst manifestation

Once on the border served in the air defense. My teacher was a person from Lugansk, I will tell the truth - a very worthy person. USSR citizen
I’ll tell another truth when the Crimea was returned, the chelas from the Donbass spoke on a mov with the Crimeans on principle. Maybe they were returned to their homeland, but .... We do not know much

[cniza]

You have a speech of a very young man and the impression that you are lost in the vastness of our homeland.

[Pirogov]

Quote: Tusv

Once on the border served in the air defense. My teacher was a person from Lugansk, I will tell the truth - a very worthy person. USSR citizen
I’ll tell another truth when the Crimea was returned, the chelas from the Donbass spoke on a mov with the Crimeans on principle. Maybe they were returned to their homeland, but .... We do not know much

And how many were those people, already two, or three?

[komvap]

Quote: cniza

We are witnessing historical events that will begin to develop in the near future and will be recorded in textbooks for future generations.

... it’s a pity they have just been postponed from 2014 to the pre-election 2018 season.
in 2014 it was possible to solve bloodlessly and in most of Russian Ukraine, leaving only a small reserve for banderlogs to demonstrate their dirty habits.

[cniza]

Yes, from our point of view you are right, but we don’t know too much.

[Krabik]

How is it interesting that something could be decided in 2014 and what evidence do you have on this subject?

[Chinganchuk]

Quote: Zibelew

Quote: 210ox

almost burned out at work ..

Yeah. Nearly. Let's hope that the arrival of Plotnitsky in Russia (at least temporarily, at least forever) will benefit both the DPR and LPR, and possibly New Russia.

"The Moor has done his job" .. Further it will be more interesting and beneficial to the structure of New Russia!

[dr.star75]

Well, you know better in Germany!

[Chinganchuk]

Quote: dr.star75

Well, you know better in Germany!

This miracle represents Germany in Ukraine ..

Well, the rest, who represents whom I think everyone knows!

[Anarchist]

'' announce the whole list, please! ''

[cniza]

Alexander But is it interesting, the main result.

[Anarchist]

Victor, hi! Have not seen each other for a thousand years!
You're right - the main result! It’s good that they unite - it will be easier to defend! And not only...
Just not played too much!

[cniza]

The logic of sanity has long demanded this, and so they are raiding. because they played too much.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Anarchist

'announce the whole list, please!'

The whole list of Surkov. because of this list, Mozgovoy and Pasha Dremov did not become.

[dr.star75]

But in Moldova everyone knows about this?

[Hammerlock]

Germany? Rather, a Chosen People

[volot-voin]

Quote: Zibelew

Yeah. Nearly. Let's hope that the arrival of Plotnitsky in Russia (at least temporarily, at least forever) will benefit both the DPR and LPR, and possibly New Russia.

“They famously met, almost bragged” In order not to spoil the image of the Republics, they offered to resign voluntarily.

[kapitan92]

Quote: Zibelew

Yeah. Nearly. Let's hope that the arrival of Plotnitsky in Russia (at least temporarily, at least forever) will benefit both the DPR and LPR, and possibly New Russia.

It seems that Plotnitsky came to Moscow to exchange his position with Kremlin guarantees. He made money, live for yourself and live like Yanukovych, although after a N-th amount of time the street can cross the wrong place.

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: Zibelew

almost burned out at work ..

Monomakh's hat is heavy! So health suffered from hard physical labor: to keep the republic on its shoulders ... And we ... are so unfair! .... they say, a liar, a grabber, a provocateur .... everyone strives to offend the leader! And he does not have a standardized working day!

[72jora72]

Monomakh's hat is heavy! Well, health has suffered from hard physical labor: a republic on its shoulders to keep recourse

But I’m wondering which one of you is smart, could head the Republic then in '14, defense, social ......... and from the couch, of course, everything is simple and clear.

[Nikolaevich I]

But have they completely forgotten Bolotov? In any case, it’s possible that I’m not right. It’s true that the assessment of events, first of all, should be given by those who live in the LPR, who happen to be there, anyway, communicate ... I think .... through for some time more real conclusions on the events that have occurred will be known.

[weksha50]

Quote: Nikolaevich I

Monomakh's hat is heavy! So health suffered from hard physical labor: to keep the republic on its shoulders ...And we ... are so unfair! .... they say, a liar, a grabber, a provocateur .... leader strives to offend everyone!

Hmm ... Jokes - as jokes ... But what about the accusations that he was ready to integrate the LPR into Ukraine? That is, to completely betray the case of Novorossia ... How about other charges of subversive activities, of hacking? And suddenly - at his own request, he becomes the controller for the implementation of the Minsk agreements ...

Here, prostitution is primarily on our part, from Moscow ... As yesterday famously Peskov fenced off from Plotnitsky’s arrival in Moscow (we don’t know anything, he’s flying about his business) ...

And - I do not want to say anything bad - the face of the new chapter reminded something of Klimkin_Chugunkin ... Is it not a double?

I don’t jerk ... It’s insulting, annoying, disgusting for our Moscow principality-boyars, for their very low social literacy and responsibility ...

[Nikolaevich I]

We here in Russia do not know much yet ... reliably about the events in the LPR and the DPR, more or less, those who live there can reason. Unfortunately, their voice “sounds” here on the site, not loudly. Still, it’s better to wait with "sharp" conclusions ... until "clarification" !?

[Going]

If they do not unite, then there will be a complete seam, there is no other way, serious events are coming and we need a single fist and center.

[hrych]

Quote: Going

If they do not unite, then there will be a complete seam, there is no other way, serious events are coming and we need a single fist and center.

He is and this is the Kremlin

[Going]

Still needed and in place otherwise, an example of Plotnitsky, begins to tear.

[pjastolov]

Quote: Going

Still needed and in place otherwise, an example of Plotnitsky, begins to tear.

the suite is beautifully written - but who is the composer?

[Going]

It doesn’t matter if it weren’t false.

[kirgiz58]

Quote: pjastolov

but who is the composer?

The composer is sometimes known by the program, but the conductor is always in front of the public.

[Going]

Who cares, the main thing is music in unison.

[Yuyuka]

Quote: pjastolov

Quote: Going

Still needed and in place otherwise, an example of Plotnitsky, begins to tear.

the suite is beautifully written - but who is the composer?

with us, if a song is talentedly written, it becomes a folk song

[RUSS]

Quote: Going

If they do not unite, then there will be a complete seam, there is no other way, serious events are coming and we need a single fist and center.

What kind of serious events is that?

[Don]

Quote: destination

This, so to speak, man would have burned himself out at work, so he had burned so many Good PEOPLES in your own terms. ............?

I, like you, was also very looking forward to this moment. True, we thought he would be slammed for our best comrades, whom he ruined. But, not yet evening, as they say. Shot glass today slam for such an event. And this is really an event, because the internal enemy will be more dangerous than the external, especially if he is also in power

[hrych]

Quote: Donskoy

True, we thought he would be slammed for our best comrades, whom he ruined.

Or maybe they were eliminated, just by the Pasechnik, Cornet and Co. Those. those who overthrew and Plotnitsky. There was no such thought?

Quote: Donskoy

Shot glass today slam for such an event.

A sell in the store? Is there a passport?

[Don]

Quote: hrych

A sell in the store? Is there a passport? wassat

You should use this passport for bream in the face for rudeness, an Internet dick juvenile

[Ulan]

Hopefully. But I would like to get a comment from the field.

[Monos]

This is stated in the statement Head of the Ministry of State Security (MGB) Republic of Leonid Pasechnik ...
I take up the duties of the head of the Republic ...

Original. No, this is not bad and not good. It’s just original - to remove the chapter and, without bothering with puppets, to put the head of the MGB.

[pjastolov]

Quote: Monos

It’s just original - to remove the chapter and, without bothering with puppets, to put the head of the MGB.

the second question arises - where did this chapter look before, or is it a planned action

[cniza]

Greetings Volodya! , we all observe the development of historical events, however, characters in the annals of history will not fall.

[pjastolov]

Victor Well, in anal and I would not want

[cniza]

You count the letters n, they will be like a fortress from your fears.

[cniza]

Quote: Monos

Original. No, this is not bad and not good. It’s just original - to remove the chapter and, without bothering with puppets, to put the head of the MGB.

Teska, welcome! a complicated thing life dies from it, and the process of becoming or separating, it is not easy.

[Monos]

Glad to welcome, Victor!
Something pulled you on philosophy. DR Alexander Vasilyevich Suvorov celebrate? Joke. Although, it’s not a sin to drink for him.

[the monastery]

until the elections in Russia take place, we will not have a serious movement!
so let's wait for the election.
and Cornet immediately instead of roach, it will be too obvious!

[Scoun]

Quote: Resident of the Urals

Interestingly, the process of unification with the DPR will now go uphill or

I think that according to the aspirations of the inhabitants of the LPR, the DPR will accept them and they will unite.
Plotnitsky could leave a little earlier, more dignifiedly, without cues about flight and grappling.

[Lord of the Sith]

The issue of Plotnitsky was decided this winter in January-February and many were sure that he would not be there until spring, but then they postponed and hushed up. I do not exclude that there will be an acting one, and the association will be in a referendum in the spring.

[79807420129]

Quote: Sith Lord

and the union will be in a referendum in the spring.

Sergei The referendum will be in the spring, winter can be hot, dill will not be trampled?

[Going]

There is trade and how it will end, even more knowledgeable people do not know, we will only have to wait.

[Lord of the Sith]

And they flooded, well, in the sense of the assault troops brought to the front line. Yesterday already received in the LC. There they had the idea that they cut off the LPR from the DPR, and Plotnitsky promotes them, but ours were ahead of the curve. And all these “between strife” are so for the platform.

[Reserve officer]

Sergey, please tell me - are the citizens of the two republics themselves ready for unification? And then, frankly, already got forecasts of all kinds of "experts".

[Lord of the Sith]

Back in 2014, we are ready to be the "Federal District of Donbass", in principle, as planned.

[BLOND]

Quote: Stock Officer

Sergey, please tell me - are the citizens of the two republics themselves ready for unification? And then, frankly, already got forecasts of all kinds of "experts".

Vladyka will not let you lie ... Donetsk has always been stronger both economically and personnelly and for everyone under the USSR, on the outskirts and even after 2014 ...

Residents of the Luhansk region (LPR) understand that after the "unification of the LPR and the DPR" Donetsk will dominate, but they understand that this is the best option.
You can play everything with the "wrong handouts" in the government offices of Lugansk.

This is my assessment and my opinion about the mood of ordinary people

[Reserve officer]

What have we done to the country? After all, as I remember now, my wife and I in 83 went down the Seversky Donets River in kayaks in the company of our friends for a honeymoon. And ahead was a huge endless happiness ...

[cniza]

You know, in my eyes, too, tears come from impotence, what happened to our Motherland.

[Ivan Ivanov]

we need to look for healthy forces that will take a course on the social state and reintegration

[osoboye_mneniye]

Quote: IvanIvanov

we need to look for healthy forces that will take a course on the social state and reintegration

Everyone is nostalgic here, I watch. But they don’t understand simple questions. There will be no social state. The President clearly said that the health of citizens is their concern. Without the owners of factories, newspapers, ships, our country cannot do anything. This means that the development of the country is determined by its owners. And why do they need a socially built state, when for training, medicine, etc. you can take money and earn capital? Why do they need a healthy, enlightened and active population?
Healthy forces, what are these? How did you get the idea that they even exist, and, moreover, want to bless you? Why aren’t you ready to be a healthy force?
For now, I only see that the masters of the country act from the instinct of self-preservation. They press Russia by seizing adjacent territories and sanctions - we rivet weapons and replace imports. Everything that is not directly related to sanctions (the social network you mentioned - medicine, education, housing and communal services) is effectively degrading.

[Ivan Ivanov]

The left has signs of health, such as a course towards a social state, and overcoming technology dependency. I don’t know how numerous (including the Communist Party of the Russian Federation) and consolidated, but the Red Line channel is sensible.

[osoboye_mneniye]

Quote: IvanIvanov

The left has signs of health, such as a course towards a social state, and overcoming technology dependency. I don’t know how numerous (including the Communist Party of the Russian Federation) and consolidated, but the Red Line channel is sensible.

Now is the time not for speeches, but for deeds. I don’t see them doing anything. They do not have a single intelligible information resource. Smart people say smart things. And that’s it. Truly serious issues, such as the struggle against the lawlessness of business in the social sphere, for example, they do not raise, they do not lead the fight.
They are not capable of anything.

[Ivan Ivanov]

How not to raise. And who is talking about limiting the scope of business (education, medicine, infrastructure), nationalizing large-scale industry and mineral resources, reviewing the results of privatization, protecting the interests of the manufacturer, restoring science and education along the Soviet lines, indicative planning. Another thing is that the left has few votes in the Duma, liberals have settled in the government and economic institutions, you just can't smoke them, the president fills roofing system liberals, I’m not ready for cleaning. The left is the only force who offers an economic alternative.

[osoboye_mneniye]

Quote: IvanIvanov

How not to raise. And who is talking about limiting the scope of business (education, medicine, infrastructure), nationalizing large-scale industry and mineral resources, reviewing the results of privatization, protecting the interests of the manufacturer, restoring science and education along the Soviet lines, indicative planning. Another thing is that the left has few votes in the Duma, liberals have settled in the government and economic institutions, you just can't smoke them, the president fills roofing system liberals, I’m not ready for cleaning. The left is the only force who offers an economic alternative.

Duc is the same chatter, divorced from reality. They are absolutely economically illiterate. Russia has absolutely no resources to fulfill all their Wishlist. And it will not be until all production capacities are returned to the state and people. Without war, this is impossible. But even if returned, then to whom? To those who all this in the 91st, and their children? What for??!
Do not look, the Communist Party and the revolution do not prepare (because how can it be so ?!), and in the prevailing realities do not act in the interests of the people, because how can it be?). Very comfortable position.
Well, no one forgot the elections they fused in the 90s. Then their electorate was still in force. Much was possible .. Now their train left. And they are good))

[Ivan Ivanov]

There is more than one way, you can deprivatize, you can limit it, as in Scandinavia. The country is not one of the Chubais of the Gaidars, there were constructive primaki Maslyuk Gerashchenko, in which the revival of industry reached 2-digit numbers. I think that the professionals didn’t get carried away now, there would be tools for implementation (votes in the Duma, posts in the government) and political will.

[osoboye_mneniye]

Quote: IvanIvanov

There is more than one way, you can deprivatize, you can limit it, as in Scandinavia. The country is not one of the Chubais of the Gaidars, there were constructive primaki Maslyuk Gerashchenko, in which the revival of industry reached 2-digit numbers. I think that the professionals didn’t get carried away now, there would be tools for implementation (votes in the Duma, posts in the government) and political will.

I didn’t understand about Scandinavia .. Capitalism is quite there. What nationalization are you talking about? http://anticomprador.ru/publ/5-1-0-171
There will be no nationalization without war. And no one will accept such laws without war.
Primakov-Maslyukov could not do anything. And they won’t be able to. Who will allow them to withdraw capital? And in whose favor? Who is ready to work in factories? In the 91st, the workers' collectives were given the factories. And no one began to do anything, they simply plundered and sold to the oligarchs for nothing. If even the collectives of enterprises did not need their enterprises, then what are you talking about? In case of nationalization, enterprises will be able to work normally only in a planned economy with 100% state ownership of all assets. Do you understand that this is possible only through civil war and intervention? Are you ready for this?

[Ivan Ivanov]

In Scandinavia, capital is limited by social laws, despite private property non-market redistributing up to 50% of GDP, i.e. essentially resembles socialism in many ways.
They plundered and sold primarily because they broke the economic chains that ensured demand, plundered where the eccentric managers were at the head of the enterprise, where bandit pressure was put, etc.

Quote: osoboye_mneniye

In case of nationalization, enterprises will be able to work normally only in a planned economy with 100% state ownership of all assets

China quite successfully combines the planned and market ones, having a dual-circuit economy (they control capital, they have their own credit flows, their own exchange, etc.) Nationalize the large industry, natural monopolies seized at collateral auctions. We need to think carefully about the specifics, but the direction itself is right.

[osoboye_mneniye]

Quote: IvanIvanov

In Scandinavia, capital is limited by social laws, despite private property non-market redistributing up to 50% of GDP, i.e. essentially resembles socialism in many ways.
They plundered and sold primarily because they broke the economic chains that ensured demand, plundered where the eccentric managers were at the head of the enterprise, where bandit pressure was put, etc.

This is not socialism, but its appearance. The sources that I found (did you read my link?) Say that in Scandinavia the trend is just going to privatization. So in Russia the same thing. The state leaves a controlling stake to itself, and sells the rest. Here you have your 50% of GDP from state-owned enterprises and the complete weakness of the state to ensure the development of enterprises (otherwise why privatize?).
Chains, cranks, pressure ... these are all excuses. I personally know people who sat in cottages built on stolen when the enterprise was drowned, and smart guys bought up shares for a pittance in order to pull out a piece of land from under the enterprise. And I know those who put the remnants of health, but pulled the company into the modern market, did not let go to the bottom. Everything depends on people, and not on chains, cranks and pressure. You would think that there were chains in the pre-war USSR, there were no cranks and pressure .. But, by the way, NEP was still not avoided as an interim measure. And you, as I understand it, offer NEP as a permanent measure.
About China ... why compare? We do not have 1,5 billion people, mild climate, lack of geopolitical interests, etc. But there are technologies that the Chinese can’t surpass, because they can only do fakes that always give way to the original. While the Chinese threw all cheap consumer goods and nothing more. So they will not defeat anyone. World events show that any independent prosperous country can be in ruins if there is no weapon in return. In a serious set of circumstances, the Chinese will have only one effective weapon - with their entire population, simultaneously jump and land in order to drive the Earth out of orbit with a powerful impulse and thus arrange an apocalypse.

[Ivan Ivanov]

Quote: osoboye_mneniye

in Scandinavia, the trend is just going to privatization. So in Russia the same thing.

So what is this talking about? The competitor in the person of the USSR has disappeared, you can cut the social network. If they continue in the same spirit, expanding the rights of capital, they will obviously come to the stratification of the American and then to the Latin American. Everything that is in the hands of the state is just in fair condition. Recently, an effective manager from the ministry said: “collected (meaning from the fragments of the 90s), consolidated, launched now we sell” there is one reason - market dogmatism, “private is better than state” otherwise they would not ask them the questions “why sell an income-generating enterprise”. Even the father of our privatization, Koch admitted: "efficiency does not depend on the form of ownership but on the quality of management." What prevents the state from hiring an effective manager? At the same time, the income is guaranteed to go to development, to socially useful things, and not to my uncle’s pocket in a yacht.
How did those who sat on cottages or entered the modern market cancel the negative from broken chains and raiding? Considering that 1/10 fit into the market and even less spontaneously organized, even with the best intentions, it is not surprising that the industry collapsed, as it happened, it was literally privatized by the workshops, putting them in the "every man for himself" position. By the way, if on the site of the owners, "summer residents" of the state, seizure of land would not have happened.
In the pre-war Soviet Union, the state was building the chains according to the goals (self-sufficiency, preparation for war), the approved plan, and they dealt with eccentrics toughly and systematically. In the post-perestroika RF, randomly building chains was given to free economic agents, whose goal was to maximize profits at a minimum of costs, it is not surprising that for many, sawing and selling an asset that fell from the sky without extra expenses is a wonderful business move.

[weksha50]

Quote: osoboye_mneniye

There will be no social state.

Another question is that Moscow (Russia) will not allow New Russia to become a social state ... In your (and in our) understanding ...

However ... Russia (on paper, under the Constitution) is also a social state ... It’s to blame, not Russia, but the Russian Federation ...
And if the oligarchs allegedly do not allow Putin to make Russia a clearly social state, then who can forbid a new state in battle to become a social state, like the RSFSR once, like Cuba, Vietnam, North Korea?
My thoughts, of course, are amateurish, however ... why not ???

[osoboye_mneniye]

You know, my friend in the DPR died when the porridge was brewed ... Therefore, I know that people are fighting for a just cause. In Ukraine, great events have always happened. And in the Civil, and in the Great Patriotic War. I also have hopes that there will be able to implement a more just state than in Russia. The will of the population is. But the Russian oligarchy is in no hurry to help. He knows that if the right ideas prevail there, then in Russia the oligarchs are covered. Therefore, with the Minsk Agreements, such a bootlegg lasts .. the impression is that they knit them on their hands.

[weksha50]

Quote: osoboye_mneniye

But the Russian oligarchy is in no hurry to help. He knows that if the right ideas prevail there, then in Russia the oligarchs are covered.

Voooot ... You yourself answered the question ...
As far back as 2014, I went on to say that in vain the republics of Novorossia began to publicly call themselves people and talk about social equality ... Here, our, Russian, oligarchs heard ... and they went into the wheel ...

And you still say: "The Russian oligarchy is in no hurry to help us" ... HA !!! Say thank you, that this oligarchy did not yet completely destroy these republics ... They give an example of very bad ...

[Ulan]

And I got married in the 82nd and also, apart from a happy future, saw nothing for myself and my family.

[cniza]

There are many of you, and we are shuddering to see what will happen next, all our values ​​have been destroyed.

[Yuyuka]

Quote: Stock Officer

What have we done to the country? After all, as I remember now, my wife and I in 83 went down the Seversky Donets River in kayaks in the company of our friends for a honeymoon. And ahead was a huge endless happiness ...

and I in 1992 ... kayaking ... even then I still could not believe that it was already abroad .... was not taken seriously. The local driver, when they paid in rubles, was glad - "Oh, pennies! But not that candy wrappers" it's about hryvnias ... oh ... great Russian! ... obscene ...

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Reserve officer

What have we done to the country? After all, as I remember now, my wife and I in 83 went down the Seversky Donets River in kayaks in the company of our friends for a honeymoon. And ahead was a huge endless happiness ...

This, Buddy was in our glorious socialist past ...
Eskimo, boat stations, shooting galleries for girls, cinema tickets for 50 kopecks ... and you are a free person and the whole WORLD in your pocket ......

[dauria]

movie tickets for 50 kopecks ... and you are a free person and the whole WORLD in your pocket ......

Ofigeva. Yes to all of us, ALL polls of those who married in the 80s and before Bosko unscrew. Before our eyes, Yeltsin was arranging a nativity scene in Moscow, and we looked ... Most of us were scratching our turnips in bewilderment, someone was happy, but no one stood up. Units, and they did not understand.
What are we whining about now? Here are the children, your children have something to say? They didn’t prosroy- their happiness. So do not whine.

[cniza]

Alexei, what are you talking about? who whines we survived, and now we live to the best of our ability and ability, and you continue to scratch what you itch.

[osoboye_mneniye]

Quote: cniza

Alexei, what are you talking about? who whines we survived, and now we live to the best of our ability and ability, and you continue to scratch what you itch.

By the way, surely he told you. That in response you are trying to offend him, it means that you admitted that he was right. You are used to living under the Soviets to the best of your abilities and abilities. And under Yeltsin, they tried to live like that. And now you think that you have the right to live to the best of your ability, that let someone wave another saber. Do you really think that someday your children or grandchildren will not ask you in response to your nostalgic outpourings - But how did it happen to you ??
And what, you tell them that the kids are sorry, but we lived to the best of our abilities and abilities, but now you have to dance and overcome the consequences of our inability to work beyond our capabilities?
They tell you about this ..

[Reserve officer]

You are from another country writing to us sickly. Vile comment you got, Alex.
I don’t know how old you are and whether you feel that era. We all had an unshakable faith in our leadership. In the same Yeltsin. And none of us expected a mean betrayal from above. Remember the oath? "... I am ready by order of the Soviet Government ..." But what if this government is the main enemy?
The topic is old. Of course, if only I knew. Yes, and what was to be done? Declare yourself supreme, raise bombers and bomb? Whom? Where?
Nobody takes off his guilt. And me too. But no one said what had to be done then.

[cniza]

Alexei, your teska mixed up everything that could have been invented, we are all to blame for the collapse of our country, but I am convinced that we will be reborn, we will stand and win, and let the sufferers whimper further.

[Reserve officer]

That's right, Victor! Shake your hand. My boundless respect.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Reserve officer

Ema is old. Of course, if only I knew. Yes, and what was to be done? Declare yourself supreme, raise bombers and bomb? Whom? Where?

The command "A" passed .....
But it was necessary to bomb !!!

Quote: Reserve officer

Nobody takes off his guilt. And me too. But no one said what had to be done then.

Accordingly, the rank and file showed the greatest combat readiness, and such, bbbbbb, like Pasha Mercedes, burn him in hell, they handed over everything for a tidbit .. and those Boys who were later burnt in Chechnya, right in the armor and right on the march ....

[osoboye_mneniye]

Quote: Stock Officer

Remember the oath text? "... I am ready by order of the Soviet Government ..." But what if this government is the main enemy?
...
Nobody takes off his guilt. And me too. But no one said what had to be done then.

It is clear that it’s a shame for you to listen to this. But why be offended? So it was necessary to fulfill the oath when the Soviet government became decrepit and fell into a trap. The Emergency Committee had to be supported. But it’s clear that even then you were brainwashed, and you were embarrassed by the habit. The receivers of the sworn government were mistaken. This is because even then they are used to living relaxed, to the best of their ability.
But it's not that. Question - what next? You now want to live to the best of your ability. And we are ready to follow the party, wait where it will lead you, then betray it and arrange the 91st again. That is what the comrade above warns you against.
The president can give us (and you) only laws to combat the dominance of bureaucrats and business in the social network, according to which you can regain power to yourself (the people), and can provide state supervision over their (laws) enforcement. And it is up to you whether you need power in the country, and whether you are ready to strain for a legitimate struggle for it, or if you need nostalgic outpourings and the expectation of a new 91st.
The president is trying to return power to the people without blood. First, entrust simple questions. Then more difficult. But the people refuse to solve simple questions. Where is it to entrust the power of the people over the country ..
While I see that citizens are extremely infantile and passive. To argue in court for all your personal interests with the inspector of the traffic police or with the doctor, in an osprey, run into a defenseless teacher at school, go out into the swamp, this is always welcome. It’s just a swing of rights and a shake of air. But no one wants to unite to counter arbitrariness in the housing and communal services, to support medical institutions and institutions that bureaucrats are now trying in every possible way to hide, hiding behind specious and not very goals, in other words, to unite to protect collective interests. This must be strained beyond measure)) Why? Let the children strain, grandchildren ..

[Krabik]

Everything was gradually and tangibly destroyed by Gorbachev under the screen of perestroika.

So comrade dauria told you softly, but I will add.

Some citizens simply cluttered in the corner and charging water from Chumak watched the collapse of the USSR, some chewed gum, walked in jeans and rode on the Maidan for $ 100.

Someone stood on the roofs and shot protesters at the white house for their 30 pieces of silver.

Now I don’t remember exactly, but like the special forces Alpha was clearly noted in this field.

I wonder why they behaved so vilely at that time.

Probably, too, like you were hiding behind the screen of "orders" and committed crimes.

And someone trite dragged everything that is bad and took out over the hill.

Well, our valiant "communist" Zyuganov was ruining the Communist Party of the Soviet Union and created his own pocket party of the Communist Party.

[Reserve officer]

I was at the Semipalatinsk test site then, I remember very well my reaction and the reaction of my colleagues - a complete misunderstanding of what was happening. For all of us, the government, the Central Committee, the command — these were both father and mother. They raised us like that, from the age of October.
Alexander, the army is not a special service. And the order is not a screen, as you said, but a law. Or was it necessary to shoot the commanders of regiments and divisions? This has already happened in our history and how it ended - you know very well. The army is needed to defend against an external enemy, for war.
But to protect the state from special operations from the outside and from internal enemies, there is a state security service.

[osoboye_mneniye]

Quote: Reserve officer

But to protect the state from special operations from the outside and from internal enemies, there is a state security service.

And if the KGB is paralyzed (as, in fact, was)? What then, disappear the country, is it your side? It just so happened. Until people admit, even to themselves, that they did not do everything they could, the danger of a recurrence of trouble will not go anywhere. I often notice the problem with the older generation that they are afraid to admit their mistakes (even if it was objectively very difficult to avoid). And this is the road to nowhere. They and children grow up the same irresponsible, and grandchildren. They do not understand that while remaining white and fluffy, they cover villains and deprive the future of their descendants.

[weksha50]

Quote: Krabik

Some of the citizens simply cluttered in the corner and charging water from Chumak watched the collapse of the USSR, some chewing gum, went in jeans and rode on the "Maidan" for $ 100a.
Somebody stood on the roofs and shot protesters at the white house for their 30 silver coins.
I don’t remember exactly now, but like special forces Alpha brightly marked in this field.
I wonder why they behaved so vilely at that time.

Hmm ... you didn’t mess up anything in your vinaigrette ???

[Krabik]

I’m not writing a dissertation here, so small artistic inclusions in the text are quite acceptable;)

[weksha50]

Quote: Reserve officer

Yes, and what was to be done? Declare yourself supremepick up the bombers and bomb? Whom? Where?

One announced ... Dudaev ... on the scale of one free republic ...
Until now, the country does not know the whole truth about the victims - both human and material - and, probably, will never know ...

And if porridge was brewed all over the country ... It’s scary to think ...

[Sling cutter]

Quote: dauria

What are we whining about now? Here are the children, your children have something to say? They didn’t prosroy- their happiness. So do not whine.

Bacha, and who is aching? I arrived home after the hospital in 88th at the end of September, and ah ... how so ?! While on the train they thumped, “bombed” all the freaks, different thimbles, some kind of leather jackets ..... And in Moscow I’m on the checks, Boys have collected me, well, paychecks, I wanted to buy gifts for everyone and ... the huckster comes in two rubles for the "check" .. the energy and great thirst for life after all left the hayfoot from the udotas — red balls instead of mugs ..., then the cops then, they let go after a couple of hours, but with instructions, they say Boys are a different country .... Which bolt is the other? Further youth is an adidas two-cassette suit Panasonic, “I am a hero, and you are awesome” ... girls dancing restaurants, and I got married in the 89th!
I don’t say how containers were poured into sanitary boards from there ... And about the clock with a calculator that "bought" prapora with bags from "peaceful Dykkhan", are we too?
Etc. um p., agree with us on the book those memories are enough.
and when they returned, the country was almost gone.
And I’ll also remind you that under the demobilization, our political officer “tamped” the tent for the new political officer, who was stuck somewhere in the bowels of the Ministry of Defense or PU for three and a half months in the sense of rotation, and how now to be with this new political officer, who is not with us in BV went out ?!
Something like this, Bacha!

[alexhol]

When you have 50kop in your pocket, and the whole world in your pocket is youth. "And if there is a pack in your pocket, cigarettes and a plane ticket with a silver wing ..." This is youth, Stroporez, this is nostalgia and no more ...

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: alexhol

This is youth, Stroporez, this is nostalgia and no more

This is a local tribune agitator. Presses on nostalgia now, yes.

[atakan]

This is a local tribune agitator.

yeah alligator))
mimocrocodile

[Sling cutter]

Quote: alexhol

When you have 50kop in your pocket, and the whole world in your pocket is youth. "And if there is a pack in your pocket, cigarettes and a plane ticket with a silver wing ..." This is youth, Stroporez, this is nostalgia and no more ...

I can argue! Fundamentally fifty kopecks in your pocket is no different ... Besides the fact that you slander this fifty kopecks every day.
And when in your two years too you have in your pockets except a cartridge, NS, sukhpayov, fuses, grenades, loose shag, again shaken through cartridges, somewhere a paramedol syringe, again everything is in tobacco, a “bra” in which you trying to stick two, then jump with this avoi, to have more space for the “zinc” in the taxiway is cool! PATAMUSTA then it was LIFE!
And if there is a pack of cigarettes in your pocket ..., So on m they gave out “Hunters”, I’m not mistaken 6 kopecks., “Pamir” and I remember “Miners”,
Complete the lists of "free Dykkhan" Shuravi!)))))

[cniza]

Do not go crazy, common sense and expediency should dominate, for the good of all.

“Residents of the Luhansk region (LPR) understand that after the“ unification of the LPR and the DPR ”Donetsk will dominate, but they understand that this is the best option.

[BLOND]

And they have been living for a long time - they’ve been living in a state of war for three years.

2014 I call my sister, I ask how are you ... shelling ...
She says either you have to sit in the cellar or do something ...
So many tomatoes canned until shelling ... never eat

... and will never become normal

[cniza]

What can I say ... my homeland is the city of Gorlovka, but I left there a very long time and for me the events in the Donbass are not empty words, I wholeheartedly with the people of Donbass and really hope for:

they have been living for a long time - they’ve been living in a state of war for three years.

I believe, pray and believe ...

[Reserve officer]

Victor, and I have a friend with whom I studied together, from Gorlovka. He killed a mother, sister and two of her daughters with one shell. Granddaughter survived. He lived in St. Petersburg, went, as he said, to send at least one scum to the other world. Sent, and not one. But he himself died.
Two of his sons went to avenge him, with the blessing of their mother. They returned, alive, one, however, now crutches. But they avenged their father in full. One is a sniper, the other is a mortar.
Here is a story. Sometimes I regret that I am already under 60.

[Karabin]

Quote: Sith Lord

and the union will be in a referendum in the spring.

If again they will not bear and will not be crushed. Soon four years you are in limbo. Neither joining Russia, nor recognition, nor independence, nor distinct prospects. Neither war nor peace, only a bloody truce. I imagine how everyone should get tired of it.

[Lord of the Sith]

Sure. I think now only on the eve of the elections to raise patriotism and% Putin, or immediately after.

[RUSS]

Quote: Lord of the Sith

The issue of Plotnitsky was decided this winter in January-February and many were sure that he would not be there until spring, but then they postponed and hushed up. I do not exclude that there will be an acting one, and the association will be in a referendum in the spring.

You, like Pavel Globa, he also knows a lot, but especially knew, but did not say)))

[Lord of the Sith]

Unfortunately, all that I say is actually. But unfortunately there are all sorts of nuances, for example, expectations and hopes for a meeting between Trump and Putin in Hamburg, and then in Vietnam. All this does not depend on me. Everything was ready for us by June 1, and in the fall we had to hold a referendum.

[cniza]

Political fuss is inevitable, but I want to believe that everything will be resolved as we all expect.

[Yuyuka]

Quote: Lord of the Sith

Unfortunately, all that I say is actually. But unfortunately there are all sorts of nuances, for example, expectations and hopes for a meeting between Trump and Putin in Hamburg, and then in Vietnam. All this does not depend on me. Everything was ready for us by June 1, and in the fall we had to hold a referendum.

unfortunately, some want everything at once, forgetting that “if something should happen, it necessarily happens” (c)
it just so happens that all claims about non-occurring events are poured on you, due to the fact that all those above do not bother with explanations of what is happening. So patience and thanks for what you do.

[Lord of the Sith]

That's it! But few understand this!

[Yuyuka]

Quote: Lord of the Sith

That's it! But few understand this!

the main thing is that they do not make decisions ...

[weksha50]

Quote: Sith Lord

, and the union will be in a referendum in the spring.

It is necessary to survive until spring ... Ukraine and patrons are pushing both peacekeepers and a host of other "nishtyaks" ... You can do so many nasty things and kill people, that - Mama Do not Cry!

According to normal, humanly, it is ALREADY time to take both republics under the wing of Russia: at least recognize them and start helping quite officially ...

[RASKAT]

Another semblance of a man threw one and a half million people. Like, I’m mowing sick here, and you live there as you want. Well, I was going to leave, say it as it is, they say I can’t cope with my duties, I'm sorry thanks for the trust, goodbye. And so in Tihari, as it is not masculine.
I think so.

[siberalt]

Yes, there, it seems, it was decided to unite. The main one is Tsarev, the prime minister is Azarov, the power block is Zakharchenko.

[Dembel77]

"The Moor has done his work; the Moor must leave." Yes, Plotnitsky was overexposed - but apparently there were reasons for that. Not everything is as simple as we see below, not everyone is telling us - politics, her mother. Good people just can not be returned already, how much they were ruined by this "policy", who will be responsible for their deaths?

[RUSS]

Quote: siberalt

Yes, there, it seems, it was decided to unite. The main one is Tsarev, the prime minister is Azarov, the power block is Zakharchenko.

Damn well, where did such information come from? Is this just invented?

[zivXP]

Interestingly, the process of unification with the DPR will now go uphill or will it still remain?

Something tells me that everything will be "within the framework of the Minsk agreements." And there, unfortunately, no New Russia is provided for. Oh, and there were such hopes now.

[UVB]

interesting process of unification with the DNI will now go uphill

How did you get with this association! Can you even imagine what a headache it is? The republics have only created their own state structures, the foundations of legislation, their banking systems and so on, and now redraw everything? Yes, more interaction, coherence, is needed. And first of all, completely liberate the territories of the former regions! And unification in its current form essentially means the abandonment of the occupied territories.

[Reserve officer]

In fact, thoughts about the revival of the entire USSR are often heard here. So your “problems” in uniting the two former Soviet provinces, which are now proudly referred to as republics, are a storm in a glass of water. I understand that everywhere there are their bosses, their "seniors", their accounts and finances, etc. Only, in my opinion, the people (or the population, as they say now) do not care much about it. Peace and life - no one else asks for anything. And the more land and people, the greater the chances of peace and survival.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Reserve officer

In fact, thoughts about the revival of the entire USSR are often heard here.

here a lot of things sound .... and not only here !!! Are you sure that the vast majority of the population of Russia wants to unite back with the "fraternal" republics ??? especially looking at what maneuvers they are doing towards Russia !!!

[osoboye_mneniye]

Quote: Nikolai Grek

Quote: Reserve officer

In fact, thoughts about the revival of the entire USSR are often heard here.

here a lot of things sound .... and not only here !!! Are you sure that the vast majority of the population of Russia wants to unite back with the "fraternal" republics ??? especially looking at what maneuvers they are doing towards Russia !!!

Unless everything built is plundered and rolled into the abyss of poverty and war, they will not want to unite. And the partners will do their best not to slide, but live on a short leash (IMF loans, for example). So, before unification, stomp like walking to the moon.
And yes. With a liberal course, this will not be the USSR, but the empire. For the USSR to be, power must be returned to the people. Without blood, such things do not work. And the people will be ready for blood only when the IMF loans run out and they pull everything away completely.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: osoboye_mneniye

So, before unification, stomp like walking to the moon.

I repeat to you once again, if you are poorly absorbing what you read ... are you sure that the vast majority of Russians are for unification with the "fraternal" republics ??? taking into account how they behave in relation to Russia !!!

[osoboye_mneniye]

Quote: Nikolai the Greek

I repeat to you once again, if you are poorly absorbing what you read ... are you sure that the vast majority of Russians are for unification with the "fraternal" republics ??? taking into account how they behave in relation to Russia !!!

You, too, do not really catch it. I explained that the question is not so much about the attitude of the republics towards us or ours towards them, but about the vision of everyone, that there is still something to steal and what to eat, it simply makes no sense to unite. Is it really not clear that I am answering exactly your question, but are shifting the emphasis?
And what about the behavior of the republics in relation to Russia? Should they want our oligarchs to come? Remember what started with Belarus in the light of unification? Our oligarchs then fell off the chain. What is the story of Belaruskali worth ..
The same Ukraine surrendered to the only capable force - the fascists, if only they would not let our bourgeoisie go. So you need to understand well that in the end, Russia provoked the situation in Ukraine. Who put the bandits in power? Who drove in bondage loans? And then it's a matter of technology. The partners warmed up, threw money to the Nazis, and off we go.
And how should republics look at all this?
That they are weakly sane, this is understandable. But this is not the reason for Russia to push them away. Here, rather, the reason I'm talking about. The republics themselves do not want. And they don’t want to, until they become impoverished at all.

[dSK]

"The head of the Donetsk People's Republic, Alexander Zakharchenko conveyed his congratulations to the Minister of State Security of the Lugansk People’s Republic Leonid Pasechnik in connection with the assumption of the duties of the acting head of the LPR. Zakharchenko notes that leading the state in conditions of war and economic blockade is a rather difficult task. Nevertheless, the head of the LPR is confident that Leonid Pasechnik will cope with this difficult task with honor. Zakharchenko also expressed confidence that the acting head of the LPR will be able to effectively resist aggression from Ukraine, as well as with dignity, will cope with the task of building a peaceful life in the LPR. : 00., 31/25.11.2017/XNUMX.)

[hrych]

The Kremlin said: “I'm sorry ...” And this is the person who made the coup, I'm talking about the Pasechnik

[bouncyhunter]

Hey bro !

Igor Plotnitsky resigned for health reasons

And so he flew to Moscow - to improve his health.

[Gardamir]

Moscow flew - to improve health

The previous chapter of Lugansk also improved health ...

[72jora72]

The previous chapter of Lugansk also improved health ...

But was Valera really badly injured? And where is he interested in health after being injured, how do you put it, “corrected” ?.
'

[Going]

He wouldn’t have come, they would have brought, he had no choice, though he would have lived in a different place.

[bouncyhunter]

Go understand all the vicissitudes of the whistle, called "politics" ...

[dr.star75]

In my short-term opinion: We are withdrawing troops from Syria and starting to engage in Donbass.

[bouncyhunter]

God grant that so! But who knows what kind of thoughts are in the heads of those in power?

[Going]

And because we had so many troops in Syria, I do not think that these facts can be linked.

[Going]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Go understand all the vicissitudes of the whistle, called "politics" ...

There seems to be a structuring of the future, let's call it education, and all non-understanding people are asked to exit.

[bouncyhunter]

I also thought about this and came to similar conclusions. Now it’s important to be proactive and wipe Kiev’s nose.

[cniza]

Greetings Pasha! , interesting events begin and not many managed to witness the beginning of such interesting changes, I hope they will be pleasant to us.

[bouncyhunter]

Victor, I categorically welcome!

Quote: cniza

interesting events begin and not many managed to witness the beginning of such interesting changes

It is a fact .

Quote: cniza

I hope they will be pleasant to us.

I do not hope, but sure!

[cniza]

Quote: bouncyhunter

I do not hope, but sure!

Pasha is in agreement, but we understand how many people want to intervene.

[bouncyhunter]

Of course we understand, but those who want to intervene understand who is behind the LDNR.

[cniza]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Of course we understand, but those who want to intervene understand who is behind the LDNR.

But their thirst for profit makes them go on an adventure.

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: cniza

But their thirst for profit makes them go on an adventure.

This will lead them to a deplorable ending.

[cniza]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Quote: cniza

But their thirst for profit makes them go on an adventure.

This will lead them to a deplorable ending.

Pasha, we have chewed on this topic so many times, but it still does not leave the agenda, we run into it again - that means that it’s a stumbling block and until we resolve it, we will suffer.

[bouncyhunter]

I agree, friend. It is simply impossible to remain silent, and here we are discussing and come to the same conclusions ...

[dr.star75]

About the troops in Syria. When do you have problems in different areas: Do you solve everything at once, or in turn?

[Going]

I’m not talking about this, we didn’t have many troops in Syria, and it’s possible to decide in the Donbass in parallel, but apparently it’s not the time yet.

[Ulan]

It’s not a matter of quantity, but of the fact that it distracted attention. Immediately in two directions you don’t pull, you need to concentrate all your strength.

[cniza]

Quote: bouncyhunter

I agree, friend. It is simply impossible to remain silent, and here we are discussing and come to the same conclusions ...

This uncertainty makes everyone very tired, I want to understand - we are building a bridge across the river or along.

[bouncyhunter]

I am sure that all the same across. “Along” is not for us, it is for the diggers of the Black Sea.

[cniza]

You know, and so many come along - the whole of Ukraine and another fifth column.

[hrych]

Hi brother!!!

Quote: bouncyhunter

flew to Moscow - improve health

Well, the main thing is that there is something to correct, and if the head is cut off, you won’t be cured of squint
Carpenter, like Zakharchenko - field commanders, really fought. Zakharchenko looks like a movie actor, but Plotnitsky didn’t go out and scored on the simulator, so he did not win the audience’s love Who is the Beekeeper? Yes, the shoulder case master. He served in the SBU.

Someone Lyamin Minister of Fuel and Industry before the MGB and after

Of course the republic is at war, but ...

[bouncyhunter]

Yes there without a pint hell that you sort it out, so everything is muddy! From all sides they say and each has its own version of what is happening. It would be interesting to listen to Plotnitsky himself.

[hrych]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Yes there, without a pint what the hell

And after liters too What we have? Plotnitsky fled to Moscow, not Kiev, and it is clear that the charges of treason are immediately dropped. Corruption? Perhaps ... but the butch began when Cornet wanted to be demoted to Juncker. Well, okay, you have to keep the front, and after the victory they’ll figure it out Although the Revolution, including the Russian Spring, still devours its children

[Igor Pushkino]

Health? Odd doesn’t seem like ...

[210ox]

There, just look at the face of the face .. Well, right Pasha Emilievich ..

Quote: Igor Pushkino

Health? Odd doesn’t seem like ...

[72jora72]

There, just look at the face of the face .. Well, right Pasha Emilievich ..

To yours? Present the photo to the studio, we will discuss.

[Same lech]

Health? Odd doesn’t seem like ...

I’m trying to understand what such a serious Plotnikov did for the LPR.? .. what achievements are there? .. it’s better not to discuss the MINSK signature and everything is clear.
For me, Plotnikov is a Trojan horse (figuratively speaking) among the militias.

[Sergey53]

Better than nothing.

[kepmor]

yeah .... did not fit into the "power vertical" .... it happens ....

[pvv113]

Interesting information on the LPR pops up

[weksha50]

Quote: pvv113

Interesting information on the LPR pops up

Phrase: "The battalion" Dawn "was a forge of saboteurs for the Armed Forces of Ukraine".....
Um ... Being part of the Armed Forces (or HP) of the LPR ...
Once again ... hmm ....
That's it, that "interesting" information .... It's so interesting that you do not know what to say ...
Or is it a fragment of an information war ???

[pvv113]

It's hard to say when you don't know what to say. Personally, I was greatly surprised by the events in the LPR

[svp67]

The statement of the Head of the MGB is certainly good, but I would still like to hear the statement of Mr. Plotnitsky, especially since he is now in Russia.

[Anatole Klim]

Quote: svp67

but I would still like to hear the statement of Mr. Plotnitsky, especially since he is now in Russia.

That's how they took and simply surrendered Tight, disgusting!, And it was he who took responsibility in the early days of the creation of the LPR for thousands of old people, women and children, held the front against dill and honestly complied with the instructions of the Kremlin curators. He stole and grabbed ?, so it is indisputable, so didn’t they see it in Moscow, but maybe they received kickbacks, because the financing of the entire social network in the Donbass came from Moscow, was accused of betrayal? conspiracy with dill ?, so remember the attempt on Plotnoy last year, when he miraculously survived, oh yes, now Igor Kornet is silent in a rag that Plotniy is a traitor and wanted to surrender the LPR to Bandera, now Plotnitsky is not a traitor, he just let his health down and what Cornet better than Plotnitsky, now Pasechnik, probably perfectly pure and sinless, well, well .. Do you want to hear Plotnitsky’s statement ?, so who will allow him to make statements, the sick person.

[svp67]

Quote: Anatol Klim

So they took it and just handed it over to Dense, disgusting!

Well, if you are such a good acquaintance of him, even if you know him by his nickname, then ask him to speak, this is not difficult to do. There, the same Strelkov calmly gives an interview ... in the case and without it.

[Anatole Klim]

Quote: svp67

Well, if you are such a good acquaintance of him, even if you know by his nickname, ask him to speak, it’s not difficult to do

He studied for 5 years in one platoon at the Higher Educational Institution of Higher Education, the last time he saw this summer was the 30th anniversary of his graduation, answered sharp questions that Russia was helping and could not answer anything else. Well, you ask his curators to speak, probably you know their nicknames.

[svp67]

Quote: Anatol Klim

Well, you ask his curators to speak, probably you know their nicknames.

Dear, nicknames are very specific. In serious circles, Names and Patronymics are used for respected people. And everything else that you said is just from resentment. You just need to calm down. Time, it is the best healer for such "wounds" and the best judge.

[Anatole Klim]

Quote: svp67

Dear, nicknames are very specific.

Dear about nicknames, I did not start first, but if we talk about it, then in the first year of school, nicknames always stuck, what to take from the boys. Now we communicate with our graduates always by name, when we call each other by their boyfriend’s nicknames, no one is indignant, by the way, we just smile, this is youth.

And everything else that you said is just from resentment. You just need to calm down. Time, it is the best healer for such "wounds" and the best judge.

And you are right, it’s a shame a little, I admit, I’m already calming down, but suddenly someone again provokes a stupid comment, I can not help it.

[Alex Justice]

So they took and simply surrendered Dense, disgusting !, and it was he who took responsibility in the early days of the creation of the LPR for thousands of old people, women and children, held the front against dill and honestly complied with the instructions of the Kremlin curators. He stole and grabbed ?, so it is undeniable

Soon the words thief and bribe taker will be positive characteristics in Russia.

[alexhol]

Sheer farce. Sheer lies. Probably everyone is used to it. Starting from the Crimea and the Olympics.

[vovanpain]

Quote: alexhol

Sheer farce. Sheer lies. Probably everyone is used to it. Starting from the Crimea and the Olympics.

And here, please, in more detail, especially about the Crimea and the Olympics.

[Blackmokona]

"There are no our troops in Crimea"

[woron333444]

They were always there - the base in Sevastopol 16 thousand. under an agreement with Ukraine.

[Blackmokona]

Which did not stop Putin from declaring that there are no Russian soldiers in Crimea.

[Ulan]

I didn’t. I myself listened to his interview. This was perverted by the Ukrainian media, as well as the fact that Putin allegedly said that Russian troops were hiding behind civilians and exposed them as a human shield.
In the same way, they misinterpreted that Putin allegedly said that there are Russian troops in the Donbass.
He said that there are Russian officers in the international control commission.
UkroSMI immediately misinterpreted and distributed as Putin’s confession that there are Russian troops in the Donbass.
Listen to more of these crooks from dill.
And you distribute Svidomo tales.

[Blackmokona]

I saw this from the Russian media. And the first and second

[Ulan]

No one ever said such nonsense. No need to repeat tales from Poroshenko.
Putin knows no worse than yours that our troops have been there since the end of the 18th century and never left there.

[alexhol]

youtube.com ›watch? v = WDFsnAsnoLQ

[Nemesis]

Carpenter’s health is one for two, with Kernes ...

[Sergey53]

Only with Kernes it does not need to be compared. Tight and not standing next to him.

[Nemesis]

Kernes bargained leaked Kharkov to Bandera and Plotnitsky loved to bargain with them ... Two pair boots ...

[Leonidych]

This situation can take advantage of the APU. And this is the best moment for the unification of the LPR and the DPR into one larger and very strong state. But then the question arises, what about Minsk-2? After all, it was signed by two republics, and now New Russia may appear.

[Anti-fascist]

This is some shame (s)

[peace]

It turns out that they removed Deinoy too? Right!

[rruvim]

Always a surname suggests nationality. Dad is a Russian, honored employee at the OBHSS. What about mom? Could not find information

[Vlad5307]

Quote: leonidych

This situation can take advantage of the APU. And this is the best moment for the unification of the LPR and the DPR into one larger and very strong state. But then the question arises, what about Minsk-2? After all, it was signed by two republics, and now New Russia may appear.

Minsk-X was actually buried for a long time, and everything else is a pseudo-diplomatic exercise in literature and nothing more.
Only one thing is depressing - the Kiev junta was officially recognized, and the republics of Donbass - neither yes nor no! It is disgusting to see and hear all this.

[Leonidych]

Good evening. Now I have read in a political review that the new association will be headed by Oleg Tsarev, Prime Minister Mykola Azarov, and all security officials will be headed by Alexander Zakharchenko.

[Sergey53]

Patience. Everything is ahead.

[Mountain shooter]

The Beekeeper’s face seems more lively. Let's look at the development of events. Perhaps we will still see the beginning of the development of the Little Russia project. Or "New Russia" will be reborn?

[GUSAR]

And when and where did Roach receive military injuries? Here about these biography facts in more detail

[Going]

Do not dig, it will not smell pleasant, but such a formulation would suit everyone.

[medvedron]

In Debaltseve, direct hit of a fragmentation-piercing armor-piercing projectile from a tulip

[Reserve officer]

Quote: GUSAR

And when and where did Roach receive military injuries? Here about these biography facts in more detail

Remember the classics. "I'm wounded on the Kolchak fronts!"
But actually, to be honest, all these events have a very bad impression.

[thinker]

I can remind you - last August there was

the attempt on the head of the self-proclaimed Lugansk People's Republic of Plotnitsky was committed on Saturday: his car was blown up. The head of the LPR is hospitalized.

http://www.interfax.ru/world/522353

[Ural resident]

That is, we were convinced that the death of well-known field commanders is a necessary sacrifice for joining forces, eliminating Makhnovism and the victory of New Russia. But it turns out - it was just a purge of the pro-Russian elements of the Ukrainian DRG in power?

[Sergey53]

Hit the point. And clearing the field for his own commerce \ his wife \.

[noodles]

Robots do not rattle strongly and loudly, all that God does not do is for the better! What kind of curator is this and the result - the war and the creation of a new state is not tourism!

[gm9019]

Quote: noodles

-All that God does not -All for the best!

My late mother-in-law, blessed memory of her, after that loved to add: "But God needs to help! Do not sit and wait, but help!"

[Dmitry Donetsk]

I doubt that the unification will take place, the campaign on this will end. It was necessary to unite in 2014-15, under the command of A. B. Mozgovoy or P. L. Dremov. There was also Pavel Ishchenko - the mayor of Pervomaisk in the LPR. These people could be trusted in everything.
And now, if you unite, then let Moscow send a worthy leader with his team.

[medvedron]

I think that as long as Minsk holds, there will be no unification, in any case official.

[Doliva63]

Quote: Dmitry Donetsk

And now, if you unite, then let Moscow send a worthy leader with his team.

What, true Russian without rurik in any way?
I remember that under the Bolsheviks, ordinary people from the people lifted the country, they shook off such a Union, they envied the whole world. So there were literate people 10-15%, and you - every second, probably. Why do you need Moscow? They haven’t dispossessed their oligarchs yet, they will still milk Moscow. But this is so, private opinion.

[zoolu350]

So this is the oligarchy of the Russian Federation in every possible way opposed the proclamation of Novorossia and together with the oligarchy of ukroreich destroyed its heroes (Mozgovogo, Dremova, Givi, Motorola).

[osoboye_mneniye]

Quote: Dmitry Donetsk

I doubt that the unification will take place, the campaign on this will end. It was necessary to unite in 2014-15, under the command of A. B. Mozgovoy or P. L. Dremov. There was also Pavel Ishchenko - the mayor of Pervomaisk in the LPR. These people could be trusted in everything.
And now, if you unite, then let Moscow send a worthy leader with his team.

Moscow will send ... Matvienko, the current governor of St. Petersburg, is also a puppet of the oligarchs.
Who will be glad to them? Russia DNR cures with one hand, cripples with the other.

[Black_Vatnik]

I will say in short
Igor Plotnitsky resigned as.
With the state, I think he will have order for the rest of his life.

[16112014nk]

Due to health reasons, Plotnitsky’s face does not fit on the TV.

[Karabin]

I myself also declare my commitment to the Minsk agreements.

But how differently. There is no alternative to “Minsk” (C) It was for the bright “Minsk” future that local and Russian volunteers fought and died in the year 14.

[kefan]

It is ridiculous, however, to think up nothing more, apparently, could not. Judging by his well-fed physiognomy, his health is in perfect order.

[Ulan]

Poroshenko’s "laughter" also be healthy. However diabetes. But this does not stop him from slurping glasses.

[Mikhalych 70]

Ahhh, that's why the Lake cooperative was organized! Obviously, all Former Presidents who could not and could not keep there would soon live. From Africa, the 93-year-old Moor can also be sheltered ...

[Berkut154]

!! What do they all merge into Russia ???? Everyone already knows that he was hired by Ukrainians !!

[7gor]

Most of all in this filthy story I feel sorry for the simple people of Lugansk region and Donbass

[cniza]

With you, in this matter, only the insane will not agree.

[colorado]

now the devil himself will not hinder the unification of the DNI with the LC

[japs]

Whats wrong with that? Russian people talk about the fate of other Russian people.
In extreme cases, we can talk about the fifth section of our closest neighbors, we are free people.

[sxfRipper]

Two "litvin" (instead of two Jews) again talk about the fate of the Russian people ... Well !!!

[UVB]

About acting Heads of the LPR Pasechnik L.I .:

24.11.17. A message from journalists and a note from military commissar Roman Veprev.

Message from reporters: “Viktor Vodolatsky: Under the leadership of Pasechnik, the LPR will be put in order. The appointment of the acting Head of the Lugansk People’s Republic of the Minister of State Security of the LPR, Leonid Pasechnik, will strengthen order and security in the Republic and will help to overcome all the negative aspects that cause dissatisfaction with LNR residents, this was stated by Viktor Vodolatsky, deputy chairman of the State Duma committee on affairs of the Commonwealth of Independent States, Eurasian integration and relations with compatriots, RIA Novosti reports.
"There will be further strengthening of order, security, a clearer system of managing the national economy, professionals should come to work in the government," said a deputy of the State Duma of the Russian Federation.
Vodolatsky also expressed confidence that when Leonid Pasechnik came to power, everything was “negative” so that it would be in the LPR and cause dissatisfaction of citizens, “in the very near future it will be decided for the better.”

Note from R. Veprev: “Who is Leonid Pasechnik? A brief dossier and the history of the conflict with Igor Plotnitsky. The head of the Lugansk People’s Republic, Igor Plotnitsky, resigned. Formally, because of his health. In reality, he lost the fight to the security forces. Perform duties before the election of the head of the Republic appointed for 2018 will be Leonid Pasechnik - Minister of State Security of the LPR.

Leonid Pasechnik was born on March 15, 1970. Father - Ivan Sergeevich - worked for 26 years in the organs of the OBKhSS of the USSR. In 1975, the family moved to live in Magadan. By the way, the name of this city is the call sign of the Pasechnik.

He graduated from the Donetsk Higher Military-Political School. He worked in the Security Service of Ukraine - the head of the anti-smuggling unit of the main department “K” of the Security Service of Ukraine in the Luhansk region, the head of the Stakhanov inter-district department. He became famous for the August 15, 2006 detention of a large consignment of smugglers at the Izvarino checkpoint (1 US dollars and 940 Russian rubles), and in principle refused a bribe.

In 2014, he supported the participants of the Russian Spring in the Donbass.

On October 9, 2014, he was appointed Minister of State Security of the LPR.
In 2015, a confrontation began between Leonid Pasechnik and Igor Plotnitsky.

On October 17, the MGB arrested Dmitry Lyamin, Minister of Coal Industry of the LPR close to Plotnitsky. According to the MGB, in collusion with the assistant to the Ukrainian criminal authority Yura Enakievsky Ivan Avramov, “the minister strictly complied with the orders of criminal authorities to smuggle coal and transfer to the criminality strategic enterprises of the fuel and energy sector”.
Immediately after this, Igor Plotnitsky said that he did not give an order to arrest Lyamin.

“I did not give my sanction to detain Lyamin and conduct any investigative actions against him either to the Ministry of State Security or the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Republic,” he said then.

October 18, Igor Plotnitsky announced the removal of Minister of State Security Leonid Pasechnik. The beekeeper did not accept the resignation, and threatened Plotnitsky with an investigation into the theft of humanitarian aid. Then the LPR Ministry of Internal Affairs in the person of its head Igor Kornet, partly the Prosecutor General’s Office, and also the local authorities of a number of cities of the republic took over to his side. As a result, the conflict was frozen.

Another round of conflict between the security forces and Igor Plotnitsky, which broke out in late October and entered the zenith this week, led to the resignation of the latter. The siloviki won, and most likely, will consolidate their power in the upcoming elections of the head of the Republic in 2018. "

[eplewke]

No wonder they finish in Syria. PMCs will be displayed in the Donbass. Putin needs votes in the elections.

[opus]

The head of the proclaimed Luhansk People's Republic (LNR), Igor Plotnitsky, resigned for health reasons.

how all the "vomit."
And this is the next "+" kaklam (and tsenzor.net).
pass the bl @ d

[Nikolay Fedorov]

Quote: opus

The head of the proclaimed Luhansk People's Republic (LNR), Igor Plotnitsky, resigned for health reasons.

how all the "vomit."
And this is the next "+" kaklam (and tsenzor.net).
pass the bl @ d

I recommend a hangover. Maybe it’s easier, it’s fun, and then maybe you will pay less attention to enemy voices.
Usually, those who are simple in everything, who do not manage anything, have not created anything themselves, to condemn everyone.

[sxfRipper]

A guy has been taking us for several years to the country house and back. Taxi driver from (company name) .Ukrainian. Of those who left the DPR to earn money. So here is his long-standing opinion - if at least something goes wrong in the DPR, then in the “LPR” (my quotation marks) one organized criminal group has replaced another!

[sxfRipper]

But in fact - "Maxim died - and pee-pee-pee with him" !!!

[tolmachiev51]

Somehow not according to the protocol !!! He left / or escaped / wrote a statement himself. It turned out to be weak in spirit.

[72jora72]

Quote: svp67

Dear, nicknames are very specific. In serious circles, Names and Patronymics are used for respected people

Dear, we do not have nicknames (there are dog names), we have callsigns. I’m afraid that we have different concepts about who refers to "respected people.

[zoolu350]

Strange gestures. The question is whether New Russia will be educated or is the oligarch of the Russian Federation preparing to surrender the republics under the authority of an ukroreich?

[Karen]

"Everything is stolen before you." (from)
Here in the mocking in relation to the Slavs video "Interview with the Zionist" everything is very intelligibly explained to you - how they will crush you in a grinder ...
And they say about Khazaria there, and about North Jerusalem ...
What is not going according to the script?

[Eurodav]

Quote: Stroporez

Quote: alexhol

When you have 50kop in your pocket, and the whole world in your pocket is youth. "And if there is a pack in your pocket, cigarettes and a plane ticket with a silver wing ..." This is youth, Stroporez, this is nostalgia and no more ...

I can argue! Fundamentally fifty kopecks in your pocket is no different ... Besides the fact that you slander this fifty kopecks every day.
And when in your two years too you have in your pockets except a cartridge, NS, sukhpayov, fuses, grenades, loose shag, again shaken through cartridges, somewhere a paramedol syringe, again everything is in tobacco, a “bra” in which you trying to stick two, then jump with this avoi, to have more space for the “zinc” in the taxiway is cool! PATAMUSTA then it was LIFE!
And if there is a pack of cigarettes in your pocket ..., So on m they gave out “Hunters”, I’m not mistaken 6 kopecks., “Pamir” and I remember “Miners”,
Complete the lists of "free Dykkhan" Shuravi!)))))

It’s good to flaunt, it’s sickening, I’ve also been somewhere, but I don’t want to stick it out, or I won’t add respect to half a page of listing jewelry. Be more modest!

[AID.S]

Igor Plotnitsky resigned for health reasons

Where now, in Matsestu or in Baden-Baden?

[andron-30]

they say that Plotnitsky’s stolen and not a little, and they came to him, but the question is, why the resignation after a trip to Moscow? The answer is obvious.

[free]

Rolled Sivka steep hills.

[Nikolay Fedorov]

... Numerous battle wounds, the consequences of shell shock ...

He said so about Plotnitsky ?! It’s interesting, interesting, when, where, and in what capacity did this fat one fight ?!

[Egor-dis]

Given that the acting the chapters put the siloviki, perhaps some movement will begin.

[Alex Justice]

Carpenter resigned for health reasons. This is stated in a statement by the head of the Ministry of State Security (MGB) of the republic Leonid Pasechnik, posted on Friday on the website. Affected by numerous battle wounds, the effects of shell shock.

It's disgusting to read. Why lie? And so everyone knows left the post as a result of a violent coup.

[LPD17]

... what pension will this figure be assigned to? judging by the photo!
Yanuk Tut, Azarov, Aslan Abashidze here .... like hiding ...
if they were used even as exile governments
and so simple
Parasites