The project "Monarchy". How does the elite intend to save resources after the 2024 year?

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The project "Monarchy". How does the elite intend to save resources after the 2024 year?


At the end of 1999, Vladimir Putin assumed obligations that guaranteed the Yeltsin-era officials and the family of the first president security and the status quo, creating a trend in politics called “continuity of power” and under the slogan “enough shocks”. Already, few people doubt that in the 2018 year, Putin will go to a new term, but more and more questions arise, will anyone do him a similar favor in the 2024 year?



The first term of Putin’s presidency had almost ended, as the promises of 1999 of the year were considered already fulfilled, and it seemed that Yeltsin’s successor began his own tough policy towards the 90’s oligarchs. However, on one large demonstrative landing the case ended.

Now the ruling elite understands that there are only six years left to prepare for the transit of power (provided that the year passes 2018 according to plan), the regime must be transformed now, without waiting for the end of year 2024. Perhaps Putin will occupy an honorable place in the new State Council, rumors of the creation of which have been running for more than half a year, preparing a successor for himself.

But what about the elite, or rather, the resources that this elite wants to save? It is believed that to this day, Putin keeps the "word of the officer" given to the Family, many oligarchs and former prominent 90 officials remain untouchable. But the new shoots of elitarians have already entered the “null” one.

Reliably, according to the financial media, many sons of current officials are arranged. So, the son of Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin received a top position in aviation sphere - Rogozin Jr. approved by the General Director of OJSC "IL". Prior to that, he worked in the property relations department of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. Sergey Kiriyenko’s children are also well arranged: the eldest son is Rostelecom’s vice president, and his daughter leads one of the projects at the Agency for Strategic Initiatives.

The son of the former head of the Presidential Administration of Russia, Sergei Ivanov, is the head of the ALROSA diamond-mining company. The eldest son of Nikolai Patrushev, secretary of the Security Council and former head of the FSB, is chairman of the Rosselkhozbank, last year he became the banker of the year and received the Order of Honor from the hands of the president. The younger son of Patrushev is the chairman of the board of directors of CenterCaspneftegaz, a joint venture of Gazprom and LUKOIL.

More than ten years ago, Sergey Matvienko became the general director of VTB-Development, left his post at his own request, and is now co-owner of eight companies. Peter Fradkov, the son of the ex-director of the Foreign Intelligence Service and the former head of the Government, Mikhail Fradkov, ten years ago joined the board of directors of Aeroflot’s subsidiary company Terminal. The youngest son of Fradkov in 2015 year became the deputy manager of the president.

Denis Bortnikov, son of the head of the FSB Alexander Bortnikov - member of the board of VTB Bank. About the sons of Yuri Chaika because of the well-known public investigations known to a wider range, even there were jokes that the arrangement of the stars helps them to build a business ... on the father's shoulder straps.

The son of Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Kozak is the head of the Russian branch of Züblin Immobilien. The son of the head of the Rosgvardia, Viktor Zolotov, in 2017, was appointed deputy head of the sport and tourism department of the Moscow government.

Sergey Shoigu's daughter worked as a psychologist at the Center for Emergency Psychological Aid of the Medical Unit of the Russian Federation in 1999, two years later she became Deputy Director and then Director of the Center in 2002. However, many people know her as a true professional who is wholly and completely devoted to work. And, perhaps, this is an exception, only confirming the general rule.

The list of successful children of high-ranking officials is far from complete, moreover, it is constantly updated. On the one hand, one can blindly believe that representatives of the “golden youth” with “good genes” who have received an excellent education in Western business schools or the best universities of the country devote all their time to work and therefore show such phenomenal successes, making an enviably fast and successful career. And you might think that the title of official in Russia seems to be inherited?

“The transit of power is the key issue of a real non-public Russian policy. And the elites are in a rather difficult situation,” says political analyst, director of the Center for Political Studies of the Financial University, Pavel Salin, in an interview with Nakanune.RU. .

What is this exit strategy? This concept of elites was that officials tried to incorporate their children into Western society, send them abroad to study: children had to learn, then do business and take root, acquiring useful connections in the elites. The golden youth was supposed to be a "spare airfield" for their moms and dads - their task is to ensure a safe pension in the West, the political scientist explains. But now such a window of opportunity for officials has closed, and this has only “reached” the representatives of the ruling class. Looking for a place for a quiet old age is necessary here, in Russia, it is also important now to preserve property and push children into power to ensure their safety.

Isn’t it why the monarchical model with a strong ruler and well-established aristocratic dynasties is strongly promoted in Russia in order to justify such continuity in the eyes of the people of certain power groups? The elitist who enforce the cult of Nicholas II to the people are not averse to waking up in a golden palace, fenced off from their servants by a high fence. Yes, they will tell us, the transfer of power "inherited" in developed Western democracies has been practiced since time immemorial, because, despite the fact that the United States is "the freest country in the world", several families with sonorous names have been in power for a century now, presidents and top officials are always people from a certain family of "American aristocrats" and are completely dependent on this environment.

But is it possible in Russia? In the days of the Stalin era, such "protege" for their own children was considered a disgrace and, by the way, was not welcomed by the community since that time. And the nomenklatura of the times of perestroika gladly enjoyed the privileges and “attached” the children, wherever they could, and in 90, this practice was finally fixed. A flaw in the system is that each new janitor can sweep the predecessors from their homes. Will the era of “continuity” of power begin in Russia after 2024, what are the current elites hoping for?

“Within the framework of the new concept, incorporation of a generation of princes into the Russian ruling elite is being considered,” said political analyst Pavel Salin. “Before, this option was not considered — there was no need. But so far, Vladimir Putin has not voiced how the transit of power will take place. inertness of elites and relies on those who are called young technocrats - they do not belong to elite groups and are not children of the current members of the ruling class, but inheriting power in the broad sense in the order of things for Western democracy. There are institutions for preserving elites, closed clubs, expensive higher education and so on. But the fact is that Western regimes are not personalized, and we see this in the US when the elite successfully assimilate any president. And in Russia, the political regime is much more personalized, and it all depends on the individual who will be in power. If we had everything, like in the West, the Russian elites would be happy, but our system would tsya strong turbulence. "



Monarchism is precisely the ideology that is reinforced today not only through education, but also promoted in the cinema, in the church, from TV screens. Of course, "Matilda" and "white officers-heroes" are beneficial to the elite, who received state-owned corporations in private hands, for them the truth is that monarchy is ideal. After all, this is a tough vertical of power, and family continuity, and class division. It is respect for the monarchical idea that will not allow "cattle" to ask questions and be surprised at the well-established state of affairs. With the help of certain ideologues, the foundations are created - securing the property stratification, humility before the powers that be, faith in the king - it does not matter, officially the so-called or simply "strong and powerful" ruler. As a publicist and historian Alexander Kolpakidi says in an interview with Eve.RU, the “official” monarchy is not needed for all this. Enough "like monarchy."

"Now we have a property separation, as in 1905, the children of officials, oligarchs are well attached to the boards of directors of state corporations, they are provided, and so on. Nothing new - all this was already, then, by the way, they also scared the end of the world, they said from the departments the slogan “freedom, equality and fraternity” is flawed, and you don’t need any freedom, it's all from the evil one. But Russia didn’t see such Black Hundred lawlessness even 100 years ago. We went not 100 years ago, but 110. And further the more supporters find monarchists among the people perfect of illiterates. "

Indeed, as far as stratification in society is concerned, a study by Philip Novokmet and Thomas Piketty from the Paris School of Economics and Gabriel Zukman from California UC Berkley showed that inequality in Russia has reached the level of 1905 of the year. Scientists estimated this indicator as the ratio of assets of the richest 10% of households to GDP derivatives ("national income"). At the same time, offshore assets from the middle of 2000-x stabilized at about 75% of GDP.

It overshadows the idyllic picture of the future, copying the past, the existence and the "real heirs" of the imperial house, which, like sharks who have noticed a drop of blood, have been circling under our boat for a long time, and that they are not forgotten before the election year, they give a press conference in Moscow. There they also remind: only they have the right to the Russian throne and, if anything, they are “ready”. The church has long been talking about the return of the monarchy in Russia, representatives of the Russian Orthodox Church at the highest level have repeatedly recognized that it was the monarchy that was the ideal for them. Well, well, if there is a throne, then there are also applicants. The head of the "imperial house," the "Grand Duchess" Maria Vladimirovna Romanova, did not rule out the restoration of the monarchy in Russia and declared that her family was ready to "fulfill the duty." True, it is still too early for the revival of the monarchy, she acknowledged, but members of the "imperial house" can still accept a heavy burden in the form of Russia.



Resuscitation of the "heirs" is part of the general plan, said the doctor in an interview with Nakanune.RU historical Sciences Alexander Pyzhikov, - a plan to revive the ideology "Orthodoxy, autocracy, nationality." And "descendants of the Romanov dynasty" is an absolutely commercial project. Who are these "descendants"?


Grandmother of the heiress of the Russian throne Victoria Feodorovna with Adolf Hitler

Father Maria Vladimirovna during the years of World War II commanded the Corps of the Imperial Army and fleetto which the monarchists of the SS divisions Charlemagne and Wallonia, as well as the Danish SS corps, were subordinate. The husband of the aunt of the "new Empress" Ferdinand served in the Luftwaffe with the rank of lieutenant. Kirill Vladimirovich - the grandfather of the current "heirs" - with his wife in the 1920s. sponsored by German nationalists. As you can see, there is nothing surprising in the fact that the monarchist "trends" now imposed on society are sometimes overshadowed by the stories of Russian schoolchildren about the "innocent victims" of the Nazis near Stalingrad. Flaws in promonarchic (as anti-Soviet in the first place) upbringing - for some reason they are just like that, youth suddenly begins to sympathize with the fascist invaders a little.

“That economic system, which was under the monarchy, was influenced by internal and external factors and led the country to revolutions and civil war. Hardly“ Princess Romanova ”wants to restore social justice in Russia,” says Nakanune.RU, deputy director of the Institute for Strategic Studies and PFUR projections Nikita Danyuk. - It is unlikely that the Russian people will want to see at the head of the country a figure whose father was an accomplice of the Nazis and called on the Russian emigration to join the army of the Third Reich to destroy the Soviets s Union and later restore the monarchy. "

By the way, if you really take the matter seriously, then long before the emigration of Kirill Pseudo-first in the Russian Empire, Nikolai Alexandrovich deprived everyone of the right to inherit the throne. That is, besides the fact that they are descendants of outspoken fascists (how else can you call people who served with Hitler?), They still have no right to be called legitimate heirs. Then what, if not fraud, is that with the 1990's. "princess" handed out to the governors and other senior officials of the Order, which can only serve the Russian emperor (which is not)? And how does this characterize the very officials who accepted the orders, and now swear at the boy, who also wants to have honor and receive rewards from the children and grandchildren of the fascists?



While the self-proclaimed head of the imperial home, Princess Romanov, was trying on Monomakh’s hat, and a Russian schoolchild from the north was reporting in the Bundestag about the “innocent victims” of the Hitlerites near Stalingrad, the Forty Fortieth Movement made a creative proposal to remove the stars from the Kremlin and return the two-headed Eagles "thousand-year Russian empire." And this initiative was already a “cherry” on a monarchist cake, the country is struggling with Soviet names and monuments, then here and there initiatives on renaming are voiced - this was November in the centenary of the Great October Socialist Revolution not in neighboring Ukraine, but in the fighting with fascism and terrorism of Russia.

By the way, the Russian authorities are paying particular attention to the Crimea in their painstaking work on desovietisation. Recently, the “whitening” of the peninsula continued the opening of the monument to Alexander III in Yalta, in the Livadia Palace. It was from the Crimea that the prosecutor Natalya Poklonskaya sailed out, "lit up" with the icon of Nicholas during the march of the Immortal regiment. She became the initiator of the unleashed struggle against the director Teacher, who shot the third-rate melodrama "Matilda", where the historical character Nicholas II appears before the viewer is not a saint. And it was in Livadia that Nikolai II, “retired”, with the pencil stroke, hoped to take a break from worldly concerns - he asked the head of the Provisional Government to leave with his family only this palace in the Crimea.

The publicist Maxim Shevchenko, for example, believes that the words imposed on society that the Romanovs brought some sacrifice for the people will lead to the fact that the royal family ... will give Livadia. And in this way, the new grandees (who came out, by the way, from Soviet worker-peasant families) “pay off” from these Romanov “heirs”?



In general, the return of the monarchy in Russia is a very sensitive issue. First of all, being emperor is dangerous. Nicholas II is just a "final chord" in the dance of death, because regicide is a child of this regime. By the way, the Romanovs even killed children who claimed the throne against their will (remember the son of Marina Mnishek). And the whole story with "repentance for our sovereign" is just a proof of the ancient saying - "what is supposed to Jupiter is not allowed to the bull." Killing their own kind - saints, not saints, children or women - is in the order of things, the succession in Russia often depended on the snuffbox hitting the temple, but if the people encroached on the tsar, then they should repent.

That is exactly a year ago, before the onset of the “conciliatory” 2017 of the year (as the authorities at least announced it), said a representative of the aristocratic family of the Stolypin-Sluchevskys in emigration, the director of the Stolypin regional development center in the Ogonek newspaper. The gray-haired gentleman acknowledged that the true bearers of Russia, which we lost, remain they - aristocrats in emigration, and not the "cattle" who today holds power in their hands and uses their methods, tested for centuries, and even flaunts her scepters. All the more true carriers of Russia cannot be these dirty children of peasants and proletarians who imagined themselves to be officers, generals and junkers. Dirt is dirt, and he - the prince is the prince. We would then guess what kind of “reconciliation” would be, but naive people, to the last, continued to believe that a century of revolution would not pass by a great and mighty country like plywood.

So today's lords claiming to be epaulettes and assemblies pale before emigrants - "bearers of true Russianness" - and turn into lackeys. Yes, and the revival of the monarchy is fraught with real danger to life - there can be a lot of "heirs". On the other hand, I do not want to miss such a profitable ideology.

"I am sure that there will not be any monarchy in our country. There is an option that a new party of support for power can simply appear — monarchical. When there is no development, obscurantism appears, it is logical. that a whole propaganda machine is working to create this cult. And now 20-25% of the population are quite ready to vote for any monarchist candidates. Why not take advantage of this? Recently, the creation of a certain society, “Double-Headed Eagle", headed l sure his resilient Malofeev, I am sure, Poklonskaya is also piling up there. In fact, the right-wing conservative party is in. In the political field, it will act against the centrist United Russia. This force will be controlled by the Russian "Orthodox oligarchs," suggests in a conversation with Yesterday. RU historian, publicist Alexander Kolpakidi.

But this is "eye catching." And the real "generation of princes" has already grown up and is marked on the political horizon. It is still unclear whether Vladimir Putin himself wants to leave behind not a successor, but an heir, how power transit will be provided after 2024, whether this post will already be mentioned in the State Council or another position that marks the role of the national leader? And will this successor, the heir, keep the “word of the officer” in the same way Putin does in relation to the Yeltsin family?

“Why do we need to directly impose monarchy? In the civilized world, this is called democracy with preservation of property stratification,” agrees political scientist Alexander Zhilin in an interview with Nakanune.RU. “We didn’t return to capitalism 30 years ago, we returned to feudalism. Feudalism demands tough verticals, restrictions on rights. And the new president will have to serve not the people, but those who hire him. "

And here is a misfortune - the property of our elitarians for the most part was taken abroad and safely stored there. So far, well. It remains only to find out how the West will behave in relation to the Russian Federation. Soon, Donald Trump will receive the so-called “Report on oligarchs and parastatal organizations of the Russian Federation”, which will tell about the presence of corruption accounts and funds of Russian officials, oligarchs in Western banks. And it is possible that during the next aggravation of relations, these assets will begin to be confiscated. Who knows, maybe the detention of Suleiman Kerimov in France is the "first swallow" of these processes?

The Russian elite, although it dreams of its glorious "honor, I have" the future, but it took shape in 90 as comprador and still remains that way. And it did not work out to integrate into the Western world, and the declared nationalization of the elites turned out to be a failure, and the road was closed to the Chinese - there the dynasties do not really appreciate their communist past, remembering the treachery of the Soviet Union by the Gorbachev-Yeltsin nomenklatura. However, what about the elite - the fork in which the Kremlin found itself - can it promise big shocks to the country and the people, it seems that the “kings” and “princes” no longer notice this, playing on the “Monarchy” project?

“Statements about the restoration of the monarchy are the result of the lack of state ideology after the collapse of the USSR,” expert Nikita Danyuk said in an interview with Nakanune. “Modern Russia, having abandoned the Soviet model of building society and socialist ideals, is trying to find its ideological foundation, on the basis of which build your own project. Only a project built on anti-Sovietism, slandering the great Soviet past, exalting Tsarist Russia and its attributes in the form of monarchs and a representative White Movement, will lead the country to an even greater split. "
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  1. +39
    26 November 2017 07: 36
    The article is not in the eyebrow, but in the eye. This means that a new Civil War cannot be avoided, but this time the people must bring the matter to the "elite" to the end. Even if an individual of the oligarchy of the Russian Federation hides in Peru in a bunker under the protection of the NSA, the CIA and Mossad, it must be found and eliminated.
    1. +4
      26 November 2017 07: 49
      The longer the state will exist, the less parasites will be in it. The worst thing is that the realization of this can come to some “kinder surprises” while pulling the rope around the neck and knocking the stool out from underneath ... belay
      Oh, this "Russian rebellion is meaningless and merciless" am
      1. +7
        26 November 2017 08: 36
        If the authors publish photographs of Poklonskaya with Kirillovich, it means that at least they don’t understand what they are writing about, and at the maximum, I don’t even want to think so bad about people. These photos began to be published by Surkov propagandists when they wanted to discredit Poklonskaya, who had raised the fight against the liberals' glum over the Orthodox Church and Teacher. Only these photographs were taken long before that. In Crimea, which has just become #Krymnash. The Kirillovichs wanted to cling on and went to the Crimea to celebrate with one of the symbols of the Russian spring, Natalia Poklonskaya. So why on earth would Poklonskaya refuse people who came to take a selfie with her? In the fight against Matilda, Poklonskaya acted as a confidant of the family REAL! Romanovs, in particular Olga Kulikovskaya. Who understands the nuances - this completely excludes the Kirillovichs. The true Romanovs respect imperial laws. And under these laws, there are no longer any persons entitled to the throne. Therefore, among the real Romanovs, there is no one who would call himself the Grand Duke or Grand Duchess. The impostors of the Kirillovich Romanov are despised. I made a brief reference on the Kirillovich. I hope you can read it after enlarging the picture.
        1. +17
          26 November 2017 10: 21
          It makes no difference what kind of bottling the Romanovs mark on the "throne." All after Nikolay No. 2.
          1. +5
            26 November 2017 10: 24
            Quote: zoolu350
            All after Nikolay No. 2.

            Well, this is already too much, but the fact that under no circumstances should not get to the throne is for sure
            1. +13
              26 November 2017 10: 49
              Why is it too much? At one time, the Bolsheviks left them alone, and as soon as the situation changed, they climbed out. So they need to be multiplied by 0.
              1. +1
                26 November 2017 10: 58
                are you ready to kill children
                provided that, unlike the 18th year of the real danger from them, 0.0000
                1. +22
                  26 November 2017 11: 15
                  from the specified sons danger 0? These sons will grow their offspring and you will not notice how everything goes by inheritance, including you.
                  1. +2
                    26 November 2017 11: 16
                    What danger from the Romanovs today does anyone really perceive them as heirs?
                    1. +12
                      26 November 2017 11: 31
                      Is danger from the Romanovs? The main danger from these sons of our government. If the Romanovs are eager for power, then from their submission
                      1. +2
                        26 November 2017 12: 24
                        then it’s not at all clear what the Romanovs have to do with it?
                      2. +1
                        26 November 2017 15: 44
                        A few years ago, a video was released about the US plans to destroy Russia. Many Russians then simply did not believe in the existence of this plan - it seemed too "monstrous" too!

                        But this article only confirms not only the existence of this plan, but also points to a specific mechanism and personalities for its implementation.

                        US Plan to Destroy Russia (Houston Project, Harvard Project) Published: 21 Dec. 2015
                2. 0
                  26 November 2017 14: 05
                  And in 1918 from them there was a real danger of 0,00000 .. From a sick boy and four girls ..
                  Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                  are you ready to kill children
                  provided that, unlike the 18th year of the real danger from them, 0.0000
                  1. +4
                    26 November 2017 14: 32
                    Quote: 210ox
                    Yes, and in 1918 from them real danger

                    then there was, they could have been used quite well as a unifying banner, which was not enough for the opponents of the Bolsheviks
                    1. +3
                      26 November 2017 15: 12
                      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                      as a unifying banner, which was not enough for the opponents of the Bolsheviks

                      Hardly. The White Guards were not monarchists and did not put forward the idea of ​​a revival of the monarchy.
                      1. +4
                        26 November 2017 15: 51
                        The White Guards had the masters (the same ones) and they could simply order the creation of a unifying point for the whole movement from the children of Nicholas No. 2, so the Bolsheviks acted politically expediently, because it is better to overtake than not end up.
                      2. +1
                        26 November 2017 17: 07
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Hardly. The White Guards were not monarchists

                        there were many who were
                3. +1
                  26 November 2017 21: 35
                  Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                  are you ready to kill children

                  So let their parents think about their children and do not go under the knife, they will kill everyone up to infants.
                  Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                  provided that, unlike the 18th year of the real danger from them, 0.0000

                  That's a moot point
                  1. +2
                    26 November 2017 22: 31
                    Quote: Setrac
                    they will kill everyone down to babies

                    what's the point ?!
                    killing for the sake of killing ?!
                    1. 0
                      26 November 2017 23: 25
                      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                      what's the point ?!
                      killing for the sake of killing ?!

                      For some reason, the Jews killed the family of the Russian emperor, so it makes sense.
                      1. +9
                        26 November 2017 23: 27
                        Quote: Setrac
                        Jews for some reason killed the family of the Russian emperor

                        I repeat:
                        Quote: Golovan Jack
                        Shiz mowed our ranks (s)
                      2. 0
                        27 November 2017 07: 28
                        at that moment yes, what is the point now?
                4. 0
                  26 November 2017 21: 56
                  Nenad kill anyone!
                  You just need to remember "your death, the death of children with cruel joy I see ..."
                5. +2
                  27 November 2017 09: 01
                  are you ready to kill children


                  You know this, nothing reminds you literally in 2014 - They are children!

                  Now, if you had done everything correctly and according to the current law, how many lives have been saved.

                  Here is the answer.
                  1. +1
                    27 November 2017 10: 12
                    Quote: user
                    You know this, nothing reminds you literally in 2014 - They are children!

                    let's not confuse the righteous with the sinful
                    there was a proposal to kill the children who are sitting at home, just come and kill
                    1. +2
                      27 November 2017 21: 00
                      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                      there was a proposal to kill the children who are sitting at home, just come and kill

                      These are your children sitting at home and do not pretend to anything, and their children are sitting in the palace and pretend to much.
                      1. 0
                        28 November 2017 08: 00
                        Quote: Setrac
                        their children are sitting in the palace and claim a lot

                        can you name?
              2. +1
                27 November 2017 10: 46
                Quote: zoolu350
                zoolu350 Yesterday, 10:49 ↑ New
                Why is it too much? At one time, the Bolsheviks left them alone, and as soon as the situation changed, they climbed out. So they need to be multiplied by 0.


                it is the monarchists who plundered the country in the 90s?))) you didn’t beguile the land there?)
        2. +3
          26 November 2017 10: 32
          Quote: Nikolai S.
          These photos began to be published by Surkov propagandists when they wanted to discredit Poklonskaya, who raised the fight against the liberals' glum over the Orthodox Church

          Tell me, why in the photo, the defender of Orthodoxy with his head uncovered, unlike the others, is female, including the "Empress"? The case seems to be happening in the temple. Not supposed to, by the rules
          1. +1
            26 November 2017 11: 08
            Quote: Stirbjorn
            why in the photo, the defender of Orthodoxy with his head uncovered, unlike the others, is female, including the "empress"? The case seems to be happening in the temple. Not supposed to, by the rules

            According to the rules? Tell us about these rules, it will be interesting.
            As I understand it, there are no rules in such an order that obliges a woman to wear a scarf in the church. there is tradition in the Russian Orthodox Church, based on the words of Ap. Paul. These Orthodox words are interpreted precisely as a recommendation, because there are Orthodox churches, for example Greek, in which tradition don't wear woman shawl in the temple. As I understand it, in our Russian church, if a woman is going to pray, to join the sacrament, then she should wear a scarf. In the photo, obviously, not these cases.
        3. +6
          26 November 2017 14: 55
          Quote: Nikolai S.
          So why on earth would Poklonskaya refuse people who came to take a selfie with her?

          Is that a selfie too?
          1. +10
            26 November 2017 16: 43
            There was an interesting article a few years ago.
            Question 1. With what means in life does this lady exist - a pretender to the Romanov throne - with her son abroad? And why is she tearing into the monarchs of Russia, which requires, in fact, HUGE financial investments from her, which she personally does not have? Response - to the handouts and help of Western intelligence agencies!
            Question 2. And what exactly is she going to pay with her foreign pragmatic "benefactors"? Response was. According to bilateral agreements, the future monarch, ascending to the Tsar’s throne of Russia, pledges to her “benefactors” that she will transfer Russia through her crowned head to her “sponsors” in their foreign and private property management. And she herself - the future monarchine of Russia - supposedly enough and "little crumbs" from the former Russian-imperial "table"! Moreover, she has no legitimate rights to be crowned to the royal throne.
            1. +4
              26 November 2017 17: 05
              In this case, Tatyana, it is necessary to mention the words --- "foreign agent" in front of her name when mentioning Her High-Named name in Russian media. am bully However, they ply with her, this is probably such an operative game with them with the goal of reverting it and instructing the true path ...
              1. +2
                26 November 2017 19: 03
                In this case, Tatyana, it is necessary to mention the words --- "foreign agent" in front of her name when mentioning Her High-Named name in Russian media. am bully
                According to the idea, yes!
                However w handle it, it's probably they have such an operative game with the aim of recruiting and guiding them on the path true...
                Well, yes, something like that!
                But the people of Russia, except Poklonskaya, have nothing to do with the political adventurousness and the impostor of the Head of the "imperial house", the "Grand Duchess" Maria Vladimirovna Romanova, who does not rule out the essentially illegitimate restoration of the Romanov monarchy in Russia and constantly declares that her family is ready to "fulfill own debt ", because there are no LEGITIMATE debts to Russia, and it cannot be! In this regard, M.V. Romanova NOBODY - and call her NO!
                All debts of the Head of the "Imperial House", "Grand Duchess" Maria Vladimirovna Romanova are secretly illegitimate and exist not before the people of Russia and Russia itself, but before its foreign "sponsors" - the colonialists of Russia - and the Russian comprador oligarchy, who betrayed and betrayed the country, including in front of the church oligarchy of the Russian Orthodox Church. Here with them, she only can have an agreement behind the back of the peoples of Russia! And Poklonskaya is also in this business!
          2. 0
            26 November 2017 17: 43
            Quote: Thunderbolt
            Is that a selfie too?

            Here in this picture there is no Poklonskaya.
            Then what is the question? Or is it such a demagogy in order to discredit Poklonskaya?
            In the photo I see the Moscow Military District Manege, which is not a church institution. You should contact the Moscow Government with questions: what kind of event is it conducting, whom and for what purpose has invited.
            1. +4
              26 November 2017 18: 15
              You’re asked how you can discredit Poklonskaya “selfie” and acquaintance with the “Kirillovichs”, if these same “Kirilovichs” hold official events with the Patriarch, reward him with their trinkets (which they call “orders”) ...? On the contrary, you and she must be very proud of such acquaintances.
      2. +3
        26 November 2017 14: 18
        And remember the Kinder Surprise. He still feels great.
    2. +4
      26 November 2017 07: 55
      Quote: zoolu350
      So a new Civil War cannot be avoided

      Are you personally ready to experience all its charms on your own experience?
      Quote: zoolu350
      this time the people have to finish the deal with the "elite"

      In the USSR, this has already been done. Only the end result for some reason came out a bit different than expected.
      1. +24
        26 November 2017 08: 04
        Quote: Dart2027
        Are you personally ready to experience all its charms on your own experience?
        In the USSR, this has already been done. Only the end result for some reason came out a bit different than expected.

        Ready, because otherwise, the status of "cattle" and slaves will forever be fixed for my children. In the USSR, after Stalin, just the emigrants were left alone.
        1. +1
          26 November 2017 08: 57
          Quote: zoolu350
          After the Stalin, just emigrants to the USSR

          And what does the emigrants have to do with it? Or do you seriously believe that they destroyed the USSR? No, all of Russia's current problems come precisely from those times when the Central Committee of the CPSU was in power.
          Quote: zoolu350
          for otherwise, my children will forever gain a foothold

          Any human society consists of different layers. In any society there will be different layers and those who are at the top will strive to preserve this position for themselves and their descendants. It is neither bad nor good - it is just life. For some time, the revolutions stir, but after some time, and most often very small, everything comes back to normal and the only thing that changes is the names of those who are at the top. Are you sure that as a result of the revolution your children will not find themselves in that very state of "cattle" and slaves, if they even survive in the slaughter that accompanies any revolution?
          1. +9
            26 November 2017 10: 03
            Quote: Dart2027
            any society will have different layers and those who are at the top will strive to preserve this position for themselves and their descendants.

            the basis of the normal functioning in time the work of social elevators operating in both directions
            1. +1
              26 November 2017 10: 32
              In theory. Almost no one will refuse a warm place, even with the king, even with whom. Well, his loss as a result of the loss of necessary qualities occurred at all times. On the one hand, slowly, on the other, without stabbing.
              1. +3
                26 November 2017 10: 59
                Quote: Dart2027
                Almost no one will refuse a warm place, even with the king, even with whom.

                NKVD
                1. 0
                  26 November 2017 13: 39
                  There are people there, not superhumans.
                  1. +2
                    26 November 2017 13: 43
                    Quote: Dart2027
                    there are people too, not superhumans.

                    then the only way out is to wrap yourself in a sheet and crawl to the churchyard
                    1. 0
                      26 November 2017 15: 15
                      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                      then the only way out
                      not try to build an ideal society, or utopia. And remember that the best is the enemy of the good.
                      1. 0
                        26 November 2017 17: 08
                        and who is trying ?!
            2. +9
              26 November 2017 11: 17
              in our power one lift-grab and flee.
          2. +10
            26 November 2017 10: 27
            So do you propose to sit on the opera evenly and not shine? Such as you tried the peasants in 1917. convey the idea that the inheritance of them and their children is dung and dirt, and at the top the place is only for the "chosen ones", for it is so established from Above. After that, they were not long surprised at the pitchfork in the side and the skull broken by shafts.
          3. +13
            26 November 2017 11: 33
            Quote: Dart2027
            In any society there will be different layers and those who are at the top will strive to preserve this position for themselves and their descendants.

            And you are not interested in the fate of the country's top leadership in the era of Comrade Stalin.
            We take the fate of Yakov Dzhugashvili as a basis.
            On June 22, 1941, Stalin advised his son: “Go and fight!” [19] Since June 27, 1941, Yakov was in the army [20]: commander of the 6th artillery battery of the 14th howitzer regiment of the 14th tank division of the 7th mechanized corps of the 20th Army, senior lieutenant.
            What privileges are you talking about?
            1. 0
              26 November 2017 12: 27
              Quote: Stroporez
              What privileges are you talking about?

              tell me, would not Vasily (with all due respect to him) be Stalin’s son, would he at least become a colonel?
              1. +9
                26 November 2017 12: 54
                Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                tell me, would not Vasily (with all due respect to him) be Stalin’s son, would he at least become a colonel?

                I have no doubt, provided that he would have survived altogether, being at the front as part of a combat SP, an ordinary front-line pilot.
                1. 0
                  26 November 2017 12: 55
                  Quote: Stroporez
                  I have no doubt

                  Do not tell me how many "ordinary front-line" pilots were and how many of them were generals and colonels?
                  1. +4
                    26 November 2017 13: 09
                    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                    Do not tell me how many "ordinary front-line" pilots were and how many of them were generals and colonels?

                    I do not own such statistics, a lot depends on the type of aviation. After all, it is not a secret to anyone that attack aircraft suffered the most severe losses during the war.
                    But of those who survived and won, hardly 10 years after the Victory, the rank of colonel hardly anyone had.
                    At the front, in general, it was very difficult to assign ranks, by the way, somewhere around 43, pilots, graduates of flight schools, did not even have junior officer ranks.
                    1. 0
                      26 November 2017 13: 32
                      Quote: Stroporez
                      But of those who survived and won, hardly 10 years after the Victory, the rank of colonel hardly anyone had.

                      don’t tell, well, except that Vasily had nothing to do with attack aircraft

                      Quote: Stroporez
                      Pilots graduates of flight schools, did not even have junior officer ranks.

                      ooo
                      that's what I'm talking about
                      1. +3
                        26 November 2017 13: 50
                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Well, apart from the fact that Vasily had nothing to do with attack aircraft

                        Read carefully! hi
            2. +4
              26 November 2017 13: 43
              Quote: Stroporez
              And you are not interested in the fate of the country's top leadership in the era of Comrade Stalin.

              Why uninteresting. By the way, Jacob's brother Vasily, after he was captured, flew without a parachute, so that in case of which he would not be captured.
              Exceptions only confirm the rule. Stalin died (if he died, but was not poisoned, which I personally believe in), and then what?
        2. +2
          26 November 2017 16: 44
          If you are ready (and will) kill children, then you will be just cattle and slaves
      2. +8
        26 November 2017 14: 01
        Quote: Dart2027
        Are you personally ready to experience all its charms on your own experience?

        And why do not you forward your question to the ruling elite?
        1. 0
          26 November 2017 15: 16
          Quote: Stas157
          And why would you
          So is the ruling elite calling for a bloody massacre?
          1. +7
            26 November 2017 18: 34
            and because of whom do children die and collect money for the treatment of the whole world by box? Will the GDP break off? Medvedev and others. Successful managers to treat at least one child at their own expense?
            1. 0
              26 November 2017 18: 39
              The question is what will change.
              1. +2
                26 November 2017 21: 49
                children will be saved, isn’t that enough? Instead of a picture of GDP with an amphora, a child saved on his grandmother!
                1. 0
                  26 November 2017 22: 07
                  Quote: Overlock
                  save the children, isn’t that enough

                  I don't mean that. The question is what will change if a civil war begins.
                  1. +3
                    27 November 2017 18: 13
                    Quote: Dart2027
                    not that I mean. The question is what will change if a civil war begins.

                    Quote: Dart2027
                    not that I mean. The question is what will change if a civil war begins.

                    Obviously, everything will change. Thank you, your Cap.)
                    1. 0
                      27 November 2017 19: 44
                      Quote: True
                      Obviously, everything will change.

                      For example, hospitals will stop working because of their destruction?
    3. +13
      26 November 2017 09: 00
      Closer to the presidential election, not such articles will appear. However, the system must be changed. hi
      1. +9
        26 November 2017 11: 18
        who will change it? Sons of the Central Committee of GDP? Not for that their fathers took power. so that the children of the world go. They will sell us all together with the Kremlin for their cloudless life.
    4. 0
      26 November 2017 12: 13
      at 37 stayed so they grew new
      1. +3
        27 November 2017 18: 16
        Quote: unignm
        at 37 stayed so they grew new

        First, industrialization, the war was won, the atomic bomb, Gagarin ... And then yes, the polymers were drained.
    5. +1
      26 November 2017 12: 37
      zoolu350 - Perhaps you and the author of the article do not know anything about your ancestors who lived before 1917, but they were! They served the Russian State, fought under the command of both Alexander ||| and Ivan the Terrible. The state was created and defended by EVERYTHING, without exception, otherwise it was impossible. Recognizing (not renouncing) our ancestors (grandfathers and grandmothers), we are OBLIGED to accept the history of our country and individuals in this history.
      You may not love, but you must respect. And kings are also historical figures and there are no sinless people.
      (I'm not really a monarchist at all).
      In any country there is an "elite", to destroy some - others will appear. It is necessary to influence the formation of the elite, to strive to make the country better.
      1. +7
        26 November 2017 13: 19
        Only there were kings like Ivan 4 and Peter 1 and there was respect for them in the USSR, but there can be no respect for people like Nikolai No. 2. The question is that the children of the Russian oligarchy are a rotten elite, such as the boy Klaus from Novy Urengoy.
      2. +1
        26 November 2017 16: 45
        To influence the elite, it is necessary to conduct regular re-election of power on the basis of competition
    6. +2
      26 November 2017 13: 20
      It was already passed, "" the destruction of class enemies "," enough. The 'ilites' simply did not learn from the revolution, and again they are stepping on the same rake ..
    7. +1
      26 November 2017 13: 54
      There is an old saying (proverb) - "The raven will not peck out the crow's eye."
    8. +7
      26 November 2017 14: 15
      Quote: zoolu350
      So a new Civil War cannot be avoided

      I do not agree with this. The February and October revolutions passed, almost bloodlessly, like the Yeltsin revolution in 1991. On November 7-8, 1917, about 30 people died. And then, after some time, the Civil War began. And her White movement unleashed supported by the money of the Entente, that is, the West. No West will support the present Kremlin elite, therefore they are doomed in their struggle with the people. All the oligarchs, a little smell fried will be at home, in foreign palaces. Fools who go to defend their good, I hope, will not be much. And of course there will be no Civil War with millions of victims.
      1. +1
        26 November 2017 14: 35
        Quote: Stas157
        No Kremlin will support the current Kremlin elite

        for that they will support the horse and others
      2. +1
        26 November 2017 15: 09
        In addition to 1% of oligarchs and semi-oligarchs, who of course will fall down without options, there are 4% of their slaves who are not badly settled in the Russian Federation (but they have little property over the hill), that’s what the Fed owners and the runaway oligarch of the Russian Federation organize.
    9. +1
      26 November 2017 23: 49
      There will be no civil war, we are all busy with business - they are working and everyone is up to date that civil wars and revolutions do not lead to anything good.
    10. 0
      27 November 2017 09: 18
      Quote: zoolu350
      The article is not in the eyebrow, but in the eye. This means that a new Civil War cannot be avoided, but this time the people must bring the matter to the "elite" to the end. Even if an individual of the oligarchy of the Russian Federation hides in Peru in a bunker under the protection of the NSA, the CIA and Mossad, it must be found and eliminated.

      We have already passed this in the 1917 year, There will not be any restoration of the monarchy, time is not right. A article. timed to the upcoming presidential elections so that people do not vote for Putin, so as not to restore the monarchy. And the point is not even in the article, but in the fact that this provocation was not led.
      1. +1
        28 November 2017 04: 32
        What provocation? The tricks of the oligarchy of the Russian Federation with the families of the pseudo-Romanovs are no secret to anyone. I’m not going to vote for Putin anyway.
        1. 0
          28 November 2017 10: 16
          Quote: zoolu350
          What provocation? The tricks of the oligarchy of the Russian Federation with the families of the pseudo-Romanovs are no secret to anyone. I’m not going to vote for Putin anyway.

          This is your choice.
  2. +26
    26 November 2017 07: 39
    It can’t be, the site has seen its light? A couple of years ago for such an article, or a similar comment from the site, bundles flew! You see, in a couple of years it will be possible to frankly call a spade a spade! And according to the article, power in terms of economics lives by the principle - “the day has passed, and thank God!” The authorities are confident that the resources exist only for sale over the hill, so they are not planning to preserve our natural resources!
    1. +5
      26 November 2017 08: 03
      And now in batches they fly out of the site.
    2. +1
      26 November 2017 10: 38
      Quote: Herkulesich
      It can’t be, the site has seen its light? A couple of years ago for such an article, or a similar comment from the site, bundles flew!

      as long as the trolls remain, the essence will be the same lol
    3. +12
      26 November 2017 12: 07
      Quote: Herkulesich
      And according to the article, power in terms of economics lives by the principle - “the day has passed, and thank God!” The authorities are confident that the resources exist only for sale over the hill, so they are not planning to preserve our natural resources!

      Their day went in vain, if something wasn’t “sawed up.” If you look at the personalities in power, it becomes obvious that there can be no talk of strategic development, all this for the most part is baryzki or “thimbles” from the late 80s early 90s. To this day, they do not feel safe in Russia and understand themselves to be temporary workers, hence the export of capital and families, the preparation of "bridgeheads" in the west. Understanding that a thieves' freebie can end instantly gives rise to an irrepressible thirst to steal as much as possible. We have false patriotism and "enemies around", and they have wells and camberlite pipes., We have litter-tv, and they have palaces and castles in quiet, cozy and picturesque corners of Old Europe. It’s hard to overestimate the damage that Russia suffered from the Gorbachev-Eltsin-Putin era, the adolfushka smokes nervously, and Dr. Goebbels is school, compared to the current rudders. But the clan-estate society in Russia still does not take root.

      "For in reality there is no way to reliably take possession of the city except by subjecting it to destruction. Whoever seizes the city, has long been enjoying freedom, and spares it, the city will not spare it. There will always be a reason for rebellion in the name of freedom and the old order, which is not make you forget neither the time nor the good deeds of the new government. No matter what you do, no matter how hard you try, but if you do not disconnect and scatter the inhabitants of the city, they will never forget either the former freedom or the former order, and at the first opportunity they will try to revive themas Pisa did a hundred years after falling under the rule of the Florentines. "
      Nicolo Machiavelli.
      1. +1
        26 November 2017 13: 26
        Are you a propaganda prophet, are you thinking ??
        1. +3
          26 November 2017 13: 34
          Quote: Boris 25
          You are a ghost of propaganda,

          laughing What kind of propaganda did I fall victim to? expand your pearl in more detail fellow
          Quote: Boris 25
          have your thoughts ??

          Do you even know how to read, or just ask stupid questions? what
    4. +2
      26 November 2017 20: 43
      Honestly, I’m also surprised that the moderators missed such an article. This is good, because lately, there has been no life from the monarchists laughing good
  3. +23
    26 November 2017 08: 01
    Power has become a thing in itself. She doesn’t give a damn about the people. Whatever wrapper this wrapper is wrapped in will be a mile away. In our country, hundreds of years of evolution of socio-political formations have gone down the drain. We rolled back to where we started.
    1. 0
      26 November 2017 08: 32
      And this will largely repeat the situation in Russia in the late 19th and early 20th centuries.
  4. +10
    26 November 2017 08: 07
    The author is clearly an agent of the State Department! How could one doubt the honesty of the "sun of the nation" and the heroes of Russia surrounding it?!?! They care about dear Russians and make our life better.
    So, the author, JAVNEMONEVE, EXTEND YOURSELF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We won’t let Russia return in the 90s !!! .....
    1. 0
      26 November 2017 11: 19
      sarcasm or banter?
      1. +2
        26 November 2017 14: 05
        Both! wink
  5. +15
    26 November 2017 08: 19
    Quote: Elena Kiryakova
    "whitening" of the peninsula continued the opening of the monument to Alexander III in Yalta, in the Livadia Palace.

    Alexander III the peacekeeper, who signed the decree on "cook children", launched the 1917 revolution of the year. With the signing of this decree, the renewal of the elite from the bottom was stopped, which led to its degeneration and, as a consequence, to revolution.
    I am extremely negative towards the monarchy. Management knowledge should be available to all comers, not just the elite. Concealment of this knowledge is the greatest crime, which is the foundation of an unjust society, which gives the right to the "elite" to set themselves an exorbitantly high price for their services.
    1. +1
      26 November 2017 09: 02
      Quote: Boris55
      Alexander III the peacekeeper, who signed the decree on “cook children”, launched the 1917 revolution

      Well, for the sake of truth, the 1 pertrushka with Catherine 2 gave another start
      1. 0
        26 November 2017 09: 15
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        Well, for the sake of truth, the 1 pertrushka with Catherine 2 gave another start

        Then from 988 of the year when the construction of the state as an apparatus of minority violence against the majority was begun. When historians argue that until the 10 century there was no such state as Russia, then they are right in some way - in those days, power was not a minority violence against the majority and served for the benefit of all the people, and therefore, according to the Western concept of the state of Russia Until the 10 century it did not coexist.
        1. +1
          26 November 2017 10: 00
          Quote: Boris55
          Then already from 988 when the construction of the state was begun as an apparatus of minority violence over the majority

          the state is basically an apparatus of violence
          but the people I mentioned really did a lot to destroy RI
      2. 0
        26 November 2017 22: 27
        Such were the times ...
    2. 0
      26 November 2017 09: 03
      Quote: Boris55
      I am extremely negative towards the monarchy. Management knowledge should be available to all comers, not just the elite

      ?????
      and what is the concealment?
      1. +7
        26 November 2017 09: 08
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        and what is the concealment?

        Have you heard Gref's speech?
        1. +2
          26 November 2017 10: 18
          what exactly bothered you ?!
          the full power to the population is really scary, the election of plant directors showed it well
          1. +12
            26 November 2017 10: 25
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            the election of plant directors showed it well

            A manager can be elected only by people who understand something in management. The crowd, who does not know anything about it, has no right to choose anyone. Management knowledge is hidden from the people, which allows them to rob us with impunity.
            1. +1
              26 November 2017 10: 38
              Quote: Boris55
              Management knowledge is hidden from the people

              Yeah, nowadays with a huge amount of information that can be obtained by pressing a couple of keys. Anyone can read any book, except for those that pass under the heading secretly, without leaving home. So what? Many do it? It’s interesting how many of your acquaintances have read The Sovereign, the first textbook on geopolitics in Europe, so to speak, a classic?
              Lenin was just a utopian.
              1. +7
                26 November 2017 10: 43
                Quote: Dart2027
                Lenin was just a utopian.

                Practice is the criterion of truth. The USSR proved its right to coexist in the struggle against the world bourgeoisie. The world's first state of workers and peasants defeated the combined forces of the bourgeois in the Second World War.
                1. 0
                  26 November 2017 11: 02
                  Quote: Boris55
                  Practice is the criterion of truth. The USSR proved its right to coexist in the struggle against the world bourgeoisie. The world's first state of workers and peasants defeated the combined forces of the bourgeois in the Second World War.

                  you’re just so controversial, your bald maize wasn’t in the USSR ?!
                  1. +4
                    26 November 2017 11: 10
                    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                    you’re just so controversial, your bald maize wasn’t in the USSR ?!

                    The USSR was so different. Under Trotsky, it is the genocide of the Russian people. Under Stalin, this is the first state in the world. Under the Ukrainians (Khrushchev, Brezhnev) - the curtailment of socialism, under Gorbatov and Yeltsin - the destruction of the USSR and the construction of capitalism.
                    ps. A lot of things are written on the fence, but if you stick them in, you can get a splinter.
                    1. +1
                      26 November 2017 11: 18
                      Quote: Boris55
                      The USSR was so different.

                      that is, again a contradiction
                      1. +1
                        26 November 2017 11: 43
                        Yes, you do not pay attention to the words, look at the essence of what is happening ..
                2. 0
                  26 November 2017 13: 46
                  Quote: Boris55
                  The world's first state of workers and peasants defeated the combined forces of the bourgeois in WWII

                  Well, not all at once. The contribution of England, France and the USA was not very large, but they did not fight with us.
                  Quote: Boris55
                  Practice is the criterion of truth. The USSR proved its right to coexist in the struggle against the world bourgeoisie

                  Practice is the criterion of truth. The USSR lost in TMV, which in essence was XB. Sad, really sad, but true.
              2. 0
                26 November 2017 16: 50
                Quote: Dart2027
                Yeah, nowadays with a huge amount of information that can be obtained by pressing a couple of keys. Anyone can read any book, except for those that pass under the heading secretly, without leaving home. So what? Many do it? It’s interesting how many of your acquaintances have read The Sovereign, the first textbook on geopolitics in Europe, so to speak, a classic?
                Lenin was just a utopian.

                Everything is a little more complicated than what you draw here. And Lenin was definitely not a utopian in this moment.
                1. 0
                  26 November 2017 17: 38
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  Everything is a little more complicated than what you draw here.
                  Oh really? And what's so complicated? Information is freely available - will you argue with this? People are in no hurry to study it professionally - will you argue with this? About "Sovereign", as I understand it, the answer is yes, in the sense that none of your friends have read it? But there for a couple of hours at most.
                  So what else do you want? Specifically?
                  1. 0
                    26 November 2017 17: 51
                    Quote: Dart2027
                    So what else do you want? Specifically?

                    I want you to stop simplifying the situation, because there are a bunch of other factors, such as upbringing, public consciousness, propaganda and counter-propaganda, different analytical capabilities of different people and other interesting things. And so you get enough to read Machiavelli and you can immediately rule the world. laughing
                    1. 0
                      26 November 2017 18: 43
                      Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                      I want you to stop simplifying the situation, because there are a bunch of other factors

                      So the matter is not only in some hidden information, but there are a bunch of other factors, such as upbringing, public consciousness, propaganda and counter-propaganda, different analytical capabilities of different people and other interesting things? Very good - then explain about any such
                      Quote: Boris55
                      Management knowledge is hidden from the people
                      are you talking about? What is hidden?
                      1. +1
                        27 November 2017 09: 22
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        are you talking about? What is hidden?

                        How do I know? You ask this question Boris55. smile
            2. +2
              26 November 2017 11: 01
              Quote: Boris55
              Management knowledge is hidden from the people, which allows them to rob us with impunity.

              iii?
              in RI, indeed, education was cut off from the masses, on the contrary
          2. 0
            26 November 2017 16: 53
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            what exactly bothered you ?!
            the full power to the population is really scary, the election of plant directors showed it well

            And you did not bother that this liberal actually says that you are a ram for him, and he is a drover? Although it may be quite normal for you to be a ram.
            1. +1
              26 November 2017 17: 12
              Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
              Although it may be quite normal for you to be a ram.

              but besides rudeness there are arguments?
              1. 0
                26 November 2017 17: 45
                Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                but besides rudeness there are arguments?

                And this is not rudeness, this is the argument. Vasilenko, do you really not see this? Are you comfortable with this role? You do not want to be the master in your country?
                1. 0
                  27 November 2017 07: 33
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  Are you comfortable with this role?

                  I personally and personally do not allow you to go to the polls? !!!
                  1. 0
                    27 November 2017 09: 55
                    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                    I personally and personally do not allow you to go to the polls? !!!

                    The thing is that they don’t want to be dependent on our choice at all.
                    1. 0
                      27 November 2017 10: 16
                      who are they ?!
                      and let's give YOUR speculations we will not submit for discussion
                      1. +8
                        27 November 2017 10: 27
                        Argue with the troll.

                        You are not a stranger here, are you?
                        And the IS-80 was a long time ago ... right now it reincarnated the campaign ...
                      2. 0
                        27 November 2017 10: 44
                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        who are they ?!
                        and let's give YOUR speculations we will not submit for discussion

                        They are Gref and others like them. And yours means we? smile
                      3. 0
                        27 November 2017 10: 46
                        Quote: Golovan Jack
                        Argue with the troll.

                        Cat who would say. smile
                        Quote: Golovan Jack
                        And the IS-80 was a long time ago ... right now it reincarnated the campaign ...

                        Just like you. smile
  6. +5
    26 November 2017 08: 27
    "Grand Duchess" Maria Vladimirovna Romanova did not rule out the restoration of the monarchy in Russia and stated that her family was ready to "fulfill the duty"

    the Romanovs completely decreed themselves both by their behavior in the revolution and the ensuing civil war, and during the Great Patriotic War
  7. +1
    26 November 2017 08: 29
    the author of the article, like many others, confuses social relations and the principle of government
    1. +2
      26 November 2017 08: 56
      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
      ... confuses social relations and the principle of government

      You can edit, but you can manage. They rule (monarchs) - cattle. Managed (managers) - people. Depending on whether they govern or govern, social relations are different.
      1. +1
        26 November 2017 09: 04
        Quote: Boris55
        Depending on whether they govern or govern, social relations are different.

        stupidity, in 90's there was management or board ?!
        Quote: Boris55
        Reign (monarchs) - cattle

        makes herself
        1. +5
          26 November 2017 09: 30
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          stupidity, in 90's there was management or board ?!

          Management was under Stalin. As soon as Khrushchev seized power, the rule became. One of his first decrees on the non-jurisdiction of the members of the Central Committee abolished all governance - they began to rule.
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          makes herself

          Are you talking about a people who are turning themselves into cattle? Or is it still the work of the authorities, who are diligently developing animal instincts in our children - to eat, sleep and have sex, and in every way suppresses everything human?
          1. +1
            26 November 2017 10: 01
            Quote: Boris55
            Khrushchev seized power - became the board.

            that is, you yourself contradict the rule is not the prerogative of the monarchy
            which means that it’s not a government system
            1. +2
              26 November 2017 10: 29
              Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
              which means that it’s not a government system

              Was there such a joke during the perestroika period, do you have to check or go? North Korea is called communist, although there power is inherited i.e. in fact there is a monarchy. See the root, as K. Prutkov said.
              1. +1
                26 November 2017 11: 10
                Quote: Boris55
                North Korea is called communist, although there power is inherited i.e. in fact there is a monarchy.

                you have complete porridge and absolute ignorance of the basics, with which complete
                Firstly, North Korea was not a communist code, secondly, monarchy is a form of government, and communism and socialism are a form of social relations, you compare round and green
                1. +1
                  26 November 2017 11: 54
                  Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                  Firstly, North Korea was not a communist code.

                  Which one then? wassat

                  Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                  monarchy is a form of government, and communism and socialism are a form of social relations

                  Do you think that under slavery (monarchy) there can be communism? laughing

                  Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                  you compare round and green \ e

                  But can not round be green, and green round? laughing
                  1. +1
                    26 November 2017 13: 39
                    Quote: Boris55
                    Which one then?

                    are you aware of the differences between socialism, capitalism, communism? !!!

                    Quote: Boris55
                    Do you think that under slavery (monarchy) there can be communism?
                    ABSOLUTE LITERACY
                    Before arguing, let alone clever, learn the basics of the topic on which you argue, look funny

                    Slaverypublic system relationship, in which it is allowed for a person (slave) to be owned by another person (master, slave owner, master) or the state.

                    Monarchyform of governmentin which the supreme state power partially or fully belongs to one person - the monarch

                    By the way, what would you be aware of, initially democracy is the power of slave owners
          2. +1
            26 November 2017 10: 04
            Quote: Boris55
            Are you talking about a people who are turning themselves into cattle?

            absolutely true, some will fight and defend others will be happy with everything
  8. +6
    26 November 2017 09: 02
    There will always be birch and a rope with soap. Do you think we forgot everything that you have done since 1986? But no, the hour of reckoning is near!
  9. +10
    26 November 2017 09: 22
    All the aspirations of our elite are focused on the transfer of power within the framework of an approved elite. Starting from education, uneducated and limited people will not get to the top, we ourselves will not choose them under pseudo democracy, we will still wonder where these stupid climb. So our elite has been going in this direction for more than 20 years. Under the guidance of everyone's beloved GDP. Poklonskaya would like to remind about her main responsibilities in the income committee, where for some reason she did not celebrate fruitful work. And the monarchy is really a way out for thieves and crooks to secure the stolen property of the state. And I’m not really worried about whether the “princes” will be big leaders, if only they would be educated and professional, now they’re back to education!
    1. +5
      26 November 2017 09: 45
      Quote: passing
      All the aspirations of our elite are focused on the transfer of power within the framework of an approved elite. Starting from education, uneducated and limited people will not get to the top, we ourselves will not choose them under pseudo democracy, we will still wonder where these stupid climb. So our elite has been going in this direction for more than 20 years. Under the guidance of everyone's beloved GDP. Poklonskaya would like to remind about her main responsibilities in the income committee, where for some reason she did not celebrate fruitful work. And the monarchy is really a way out for thieves and crooks to secure the stolen property of the state. And I’m not really worried about whether the “princes” will be big leaders, if only they would be educated and professional, now they’re back to education!

      The worst thing is that this same "elite" (ghouls that is) - multiply. And the kids will miss the stolen fathers / grandfathers. This means that more and more tidbits will be captured and more and more ordinary people will be squeezed out into the service sector. And so now, even in the middle echelon, they will not break through, they will bury, and then it will be worse.
      1. +7
        26 November 2017 10: 55
        Quote: DMB84
        The worst thing is that this same "elite" (ghouls that is) - multiply. And the kids will miss the stolen fathers / grandfathers.

        The worst thing is that the children have no other life ... they are there after high school, they immediately become directors, how can they manage someone ?! Suvorov specifically began service from an ordinary soldier, although his father immediately proposed to the headquarters, there were communications
        1. +6
          26 November 2017 11: 24
          and who is all of them the godfather? without understanding this, everything will be as before. They do not change horses at the crossing, but if he, the horse, can no longer work? What to do? Watch how the wagon rolls from the river into the river? And in the wagon, my children. Or save the children. either horse harness. There is no other way. Well, who wants a wagon in the water, then rightly so
  10. +2
    26 November 2017 09: 23
    Ordinary greed and arrogance ... this is what usually destroys everyone ... and ours ... those who swim ... upstairs ...
    1. +2
      26 November 2017 09: 46
      So the laws of Murphy are recalled - the bureaucratic organization is similar to a sewer sump - the largest pieces always pop up.
      Quote: Vard
      Ordinary greed and arrogance ... this is what usually destroys everyone ... and ours ... those who swim ... upstairs ...
  11. +10
    26 November 2017 10: 07
    It’s not even scary that the children of thieves “on a particularly large scale” want to legitimize their situation, and not even that they will multiply, and having these privileges to squeeze out the lives of our children, (sooner or later, the spiders will bite in the bank, and in theory, the population size of this bastard should be maintained at a stable level), and the fact that all this foam is completely disregard for and consumer in relation to the country as a whole and to resources. It would be a business attitude to the country — it would be half the trouble, you can understand when someone rules the country as an enterprise — increases production, provides social services, protects its own. Like a large industrial enterprise. Well ... it makes a profit, of course. And they take care of the workers as people helping to make a profit. And we have ? Crowds of orphan workers, crowds of orphan beggars, unemployed peasants, destroyed cowsheds and industrial enterprises, no one invests in industry and agriculture. Collect the cream. (pump oil, gas, melt aluminum and steel and sell). This brainless fraternity lacks anything else. It’s a pity immensely ....
    1. +4
      26 November 2017 10: 20
      Quote: DMB84
      It’s even scary that the children of thieves “on a particularly large scale” want to legitimize their position, and not even that they will multiply, and having these privileges to squeeze out our children’s lives

      The main task of the elite (nobility) before the specific decisions of the Romanovs was the duty of service, as soon as we remove this task and the elite turns into a class of parasites, the state is doomed a century earlier, a century later, but it will collapse
      1. +3
        26 November 2017 11: 04
        Nobles are the elite only in the first generation.
        1. +9
          26 November 2017 11: 15
          Well, yes ... when the nobility and military duty denoted the same thing, at the very least there was a balance. Popped the enemy - be kind, put on chain mail, the six-feathers in the mouth and went ... I must die, got out - I returned alive back to a full life. He defended both the state and the peasants and his property. And the current “elite”, shoulder to shoulder with a watchman, the state itself ruins no worse than locusts. Just stuff your belly ...
          1. +2
            26 November 2017 11: 22
            Quote: DMB84
            Poperev vrazhin- be kind, put on chain mail

            even without popper, as they say now, on a rotational basis should protect the state abroad
        2. +3
          26 November 2017 11: 21
          Quote: ALEA IACTA EST
          Nobles are the elite only in the first generation.

          NO, NO AND NO
          it all depends on the requirements, it was Catherine who abolished the duty of the nobles to SERVE and they gradually turned into parasites
          for a long time they paid for their privileges with blood, no matter the war or not, the time has come MUST go to the service, do not care who you want or not
        3. +2
          26 November 2017 11: 35
          Shoigu himself already painted the family coat of arms, "nobleman" however, but was a communist
          1. +2
            26 November 2017 13: 41
            Can I link to the docs?
            1. +1
              26 November 2017 18: 01
              Personal coat of arms of Shoigu Sergey Kuzhugetovich


              The semantic description of the coat of arms

              The coat of arms is a French heraldic shield with an overturned fork-shaped silver cross. On the right side, in the emerald field, is a golden stylized ancient eastern sacred knot. On the left side, in the emerald field, is a golden knight’s glove with three golden arrows. At the bottom, in the azure field, is a golden triangle with a scarlet heart. The shield is crowned with a steel knight's helmet with a gold-azure burette, in the clay of which there is a golden knight’s glove with golden bow and three arrows.

              Namet: on the right - scarlet, lined with gold; on the left - emerald, lined with silver.

              The coat of arms is entered in the Heraldry Register under No. 2/1 of May 25, 1997.
              http://www.geraldika.org/03_2006_16.htm
              1. +1
                26 November 2017 20: 07
                Quote: Overlock
                Personal coat of arms of Shoigu Sergey Kuzhugetovich


                The semantic description of the coat of arms

                The coat of arms is a French heraldic shield with an overturned fork-shaped silver cross. On the right side, in the emerald field, is a golden stylized ancient eastern sacred knot. On the left side, in the emerald field, is a golden knight’s glove with three golden arrows. At the bottom, in the azure field, is a golden triangle with a scarlet heart. The shield is crowned with a steel knight's helmet with a gold-azure burette, in the clay of which there is a golden knight’s glove with golden bow and three arrows.

                Namet: on the right - scarlet, lined with gold; on the left - emerald, lined with silver.

                The coat of arms is entered in the Heraldry Register under No. 2/1 of May 25, 1997.
                http://www.geraldika.org/03_2006_16.htm

                really there is such
                1. +2
                  26 November 2017 21: 51
                  but did not believe! the former communists are already preparing to jump into the nobles, and here we are discussing generations. they have already decided everything, will reign for centuries. That's just Nicholas 2 also thought so
              2. 0
                27 November 2017 07: 37
                The coats of arms approved before the revolution have not been canceled, which means that the successors of their owners can use the coats of arms without any restrictions.
                In modern Russia, which does not have an estate division, the use of title and estate signs is not welcome.
                When registering or examining the coat of arms, the right to it must be documented.
                Perhaps personal emblems in the near future will be included in the list of state awards awarded for special merits. Moreover, such a tradition existed in pre-revolutionary Russia.
                1. 0
                  27 November 2017 10: 45
                  are you blind
                  The coat of arms is entered in the Heraldry Register under No. 2/1 of May 25, 1997.
                  Vpam need the emblem of the king?
                  http://www.geraldika.org/03_2006_16.htm
                  1. 0
                    27 November 2017 10: 54
                    I can read, apparently, unlike you, and I saw the date very well
                    1. 0
                      28 November 2017 17: 39
                      then what are you asking? Do not believe your eyes? By the way, I indicated the date for you, but not you and I have no questions
                      1. 0
                        28 November 2017 20: 22
                        therefore, did not indicate that the date is quite old, but made conclusions
  12. +1
    26 November 2017 11: 00
    A purely aristocratic regime is not viable (Rzeczpospolita), it does not develop, decays and collapses under the weight of greed, betrayal and strife.
    1. +2
      26 November 2017 11: 23
      Undoubtedly, for this there must be social elevators, and if it’s difficult to climb for a long time, then falling should be quick and painful
  13. +5
    26 November 2017 11: 11
    Quote: zoolu350
    but this time the people have to finish the deal with the "elite"

    start with these? 1. The son of Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin received a top position in the aviation industry - Rogozin Jr. was approved by the General Director of OJSC Il. 2 .. Sergey Kiriyenko’s children are also well arranged: the eldest son is Rostelecom’s vice president, and her daughter leads one of the projects at the Agency for Strategic Initiatives.

    3. The son of the former head of the Presidential Executive Office, Sergei Ivanov, is the head of the ALROSA diamond mining company. 4. The eldest son of Nikolai Patrushev, secretary of the Security Council and ex-head of the FSB, is the chairman of the board of the Agricultural Bank, last year he became the banker of the year and received the Order of Honor from the hands of the president.
    5. The youngest son of Patrushev holds the post of chairman of the board of directors of CenterKaspneftegaz, a joint venture of Gazprom and LUKOIL.

    6.Sergey Matvienko more than ten years ago became the CEO of VTB-Development, resigned at his own request, and now is a co-owner of eight companies.
    7. Petr Fradkov, the son of Mikhail Fradkov, ex-director of the Foreign Intelligence Service and former head of government, joined the board of directors of Terminal, a subsidiary of Aeroflot, ten years ago. The youngest son of Fradkov in 2015 became the deputy managing director of the president.

    8. Denis Bortnikov, son of the head of the FSB, Alexander Bortnikov, is a member of the board of VTB Bank.
    9. Because of the well-known public inquiries about the sons of Yuri Chaika, a wider circle is known, even jokes have appeared that the arrangement of stars helps them build a business ... on the uniform of their father.

    10. The son of Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Kozak is the head of the Russian branch of Züblin Immobilien. The son of the head of the Russian Guard, Viktor Zolotov, in 2017, took the post of deputy head of the sports and tourism department of the Moscow government.
    1. +2
      26 November 2017 12: 33
      It’s possible that they are “immensely talented”, for another 30 years everyone hasn’t, but all the directors.
      1. +1
        26 November 2017 23: 56
        Everywhere so - kinship.
    2. 0
      26 November 2017 13: 14
      Quote: Overlock
      Quote: zoolu350
      but this time the people have to finish the deal with the "elite"

      start with these? .

      Simply, you will leave everything as it was. So far, the people cannot even ask the deputies. To the end - this is when the people will achieve the relevant laws.
      1. +2
        26 November 2017 18: 37
        those. never
  14. +3
    26 November 2017 11: 16
    Quote: Dart2027
    All current problems of Russia come precisely from those times when the Central Committee of the CPSU was in power.

    and now in power is the Central Committee of GDP. what difference? The result is known.
    1. 0
      26 November 2017 11: 26
      Quote: Overlock
      All current problems of Russia come precisely from those times when the Central Committee of the CPSU was in power.

      which specifically and how exactly ?!
      1. 0
        26 November 2017 11: 36
        к
        Quote: Dart2027
      2. +1
        26 November 2017 11: 39
        which specifically and how exactly ?!


        Well, for example, the continuity of power ... whom to put in place of the obsolete member-carriers ??? ... a mistake with Gorbachev cost RUSSIA dearly.
        1. +2
          26 November 2017 13: 26
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          Well, for example, the continuity of power ... whom to put in place of the obsolete cocksman ???

          and now whom?
          continuity is a problem of any form of government
      3. 0
        26 November 2017 18: 45
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        which ones exactly and how?

        And what are our problems since the collapse of the country in 1991? Here they are responsible for them.
        1. +1
          26 November 2017 19: 23
          for what exactly?
          for the exam or for the fact that the East is not launched before the path?
          1. 0
            26 November 2017 19: 30
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            for what exactly
            For the fact that in the end the country turned out to be a pit from which I can hardly and scratch out. For independent states, gangster revelry of the 90s, etc. They were in power and they were all ...
            1. +1
              26 November 2017 20: 21
              Quote: Dart2027
              For the fact that in the end the country turned out to be a pit from which I can hardly and scratch out.

              if you put your fingers in the socket, the electricity supplier will be to blame? !!!
            2. +1
              26 November 2017 20: 22
              Quote: Dart2027
              gangster revelry of the 90s, etc.

              Quote: Dart2027
              They were in power and they were all ...

              in the 90s? !!!!!
              do you think the communist is chubais, or forgive me, my gadar will not be remembered by night? !!!!
              1. 0
                26 November 2017 20: 29
                Chubais is a member of the CPSU since 1977.
                Gaidar - joined the CPSU in 1980 and remained a member until the August coup of the State Emergency Committee in 1991
                1. +1
                  26 November 2017 22: 32
                  Quote: Overlock
                  Chubais is a member of the CPSU since 1977.

                  Communist Party member and communist are not the same thing
                  1. +1
                    27 November 2017 06: 27
                    Vasilenko Vladimir
                    Overlock ↑
                    Chubais is a member of the CPSU since 1977.
                    Gaidar - joined the CPSU in 1980 and remained a member until the August coup of the State Emergency Committee in 1991
                    Communist Party member and communist are not the same thing
                    Very correct remark!
                    For example, the liberal democrat Anatoly Sobchak, a measure of St. Petersburg, himself said that he joined the CPSU precisely in order to destroy it from the inside!
                    1. 0
                      27 November 2017 10: 44
                      but why did Yeltsin and Gorbachev set foot in the CPSU?
                      Is Putin a member of the CPSU or a communist?
                      1. 0
                        27 November 2017 10: 46
                        career
                        unfortunately by this time the majority went to the Party not for ideological reasons, but behind the "chair"
              2. +1
                26 November 2017 22: 10
                Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                if you put your fingers in the socket

                Am I popping? The country had complete and unlimited power of the CPSU — so who to ask?
                Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                according to your Chubais communist or God forgive me not Gaidar will be remembered by night

                No, they were not their spirit, although both were their fact. But who is to blame for having come to power? And if there were no real communists at the top, then maybe something is wrong with the idea itself?
                1. +1
                  26 November 2017 22: 32
                  Quote: Dart2027
                  Am I popping? The country had complete and unlimited power of the CPSU — so who to ask?

                  in the 90s ?!
                  Quote: Dart2027
                  No, they were not their spirit, although both were their fact. But who is to blame for having come to power?

                  Great patriotic as it is not strange
                  1. 0
                    27 November 2017 19: 47
                    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                    in the 90s ?!
                    By the beginning of the 90s. And at the time of the collapse of the country.
                    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                    Great patriotic as it is not strange
                    Rather, the opposite. If not for war, then moral decay would have begun earlier.
                    1. 0
                      27 November 2017 20: 37
                      Quote: Dart2027
                      If not for war, then moral decay would have begun earlier.

                      the problem is that as a result of the Second World War, the balance of ideological and careerists shifted, the former perished, the latter, on the contrary, remained
                      Quote: Dart2027
                      By the beginning of the 90s. And at the time of the collapse of the country.

                      you are about a tagged and drunk, so they are the same communist as the economist
                      1. 0
                        28 November 2017 19: 39
                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        the first died the last, on the contrary, remained

                        Yes, but the country has received a huge ideological leap forward, so it’s difficult to judge here.
                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        so they are the same communist as the economist

                        Were they the only ones? The fact of the matter is that no. The entire top was smeared.
  15. +4
    26 November 2017 11: 37
    I read the comments, the conclusion of those who are for the “Reds” is much greater .... that means, if there is a civilian, then not for long, who is for the “Whites” then ... the sons of bureaucrats, oligarchs, Mara Baghdasaryan will drift on a Mercedes instead of a cart wink
    1. +1
      26 November 2017 13: 00
      Civil will not solve the problem of this issue. Just by the fact that history will repeat itself.
      1. +7
        26 November 2017 13: 25
        As practice showed in the 20th century, the Civil War solved the problem at least temporarily, the state reached the heights in all areas of activity. Going 2 is easier than 1 because they have before their eyes errors 1.
        1. +1
          26 November 2017 14: 37
          Talk beautifully, you’ll already hear it. I heard it even better than twenty years ago. It seemed that now we will heal. Such speeches were broadcast, they talked about such shortcomings that they can be corrected at once and heal happily and happily. Then Yeltsin with the nineties. And now we are analyzing the article with you. You probably feel like a hero in the GV, honest and fair with a saber on a dashing horse. Such confidence !? Or maybe they’ll immediately put you on the wall for seditious articles on our forum and don’t know how it will end. You probably weren’t in the war yet. And God forbid.
          1. +5
            26 November 2017 15: 00
            I hope it ends with the victory of the Russian people, not the oligarchy of the Russian Federation. After all, if the oligarchy of the Russian Federation wins, then Russia will come to an end.
            1. +1
              26 November 2017 16: 09
              You will not believe.
              They have already won. The end is not yet visible.
              But justice is infringed. Actually about this article.
              I repeat once again that the law must be changed, otherwise nothing will change. And if it changes thanks to GV, then everything goes in a circle, the country will enter into another turn.
              1. +5
                26 November 2017 16: 25
                They did not win while the last citizen of the USSR was alive, while there were people who saw and understood that the Russian oligarchy was leading the country to the abyss.
                1. +1
                  26 November 2017 17: 22
                  This is already clear by default.
  16. +5
    26 November 2017 11: 37
    While the self-proclaimed head of the imperial house, Princess Romanova, was trying on a Monomakh hat, and a Russian schoolboy from the north presented a report on the "innocent dead" Nazis near Stalingrad, the Forty Magpies movement made a creative proposal to remove the stars from the Kremlin and return the two-headed stars there eagles of the "millennial Russian Empire."


    Elena pleased me ... hi very accented ... schizophrenia in our society is clearly blooming ... more often it’s necessary to pull all this bohemia by the ear and in the sun.
  17. +4
    26 November 2017 12: 10
    Quote: passing
    All the aspirations of our elite are focused on the transfer of power within the framework of an approved elite.

    and very soon they will choose the president of the Russian Federation among themselves, and the people-electorate will nod their heads and faithfully look into their eyes. Here comes the monarchy, but collective. And all this is today. The Central Committee of the GDP is working and all those who agree with the line of this party will vote in March, according to the target designation of the leader
    1. +1
      26 November 2017 12: 56
      Quote: Overlock
      So the monarchy will come, but collective.

      two mutually exclusive concepts
      1. 0
        26 November 2017 18: 02
        why? Russian Federation OJSC
        1. 0
          27 November 2017 08: 09
          Quote: Overlock
          why? Russian Federation OJSC

          it feels like most didn't go to school
          1. 0
            27 November 2017 10: 47
            it seems that apart from Murzilka you don’t read anything
    2. +2
      26 November 2017 16: 15
      Quote: Overlock
      and very soon they will choose the president of the Russian Federation among themselves, and the people-electorate will nod their heads and faithfully look into their eyes

      what is already happening now. 146%.
  18. +2
    26 November 2017 12: 29
    Elena, BRAVO !!! + x 100 per article. Unfortunately, there are very few such works so far. We found the culprits, but what to do and how to deal with it legally ... silence. To rely on consciousness is a time to lose. We need laws for this category of citizens, limiting their free freedoms, which are described in the article. GDP itself will not be the initiator in this matter until the people themselves have matured and demand reforms from it.
  19. +1
    26 November 2017 12: 58
    Boris55,
    Quote: Boris55
    Yes, you do not pay attention to the words, look at the essence of what is happening ..

    Well, this is already beyond the bounds, but what to pay for ?!

    you have no phrase then negation of the previous
  20. +1
    26 November 2017 13: 00
    Author! Do not go to Poklonskaya! You are not worth her little finger. And as for Teacher, is it not true that he let the state funds go to the left? We have too much reverence for buffoons and actors. And they, seeing this, became insolent. They are frankly stunning films.
    That's the truth for Kirillovich. There is nothing to welcome them. As for Romanov, it may still be enough to procrastinate on the topic of how bad it was. It is clear, as he himself said, that he was not ready. But did the Soviet government not compare its successes with the 1913 year? But is it not he who organized medical care for the population? But the Duma is not with him? What the elite lacked. who stood up against the monarch? What did she think about Russia? Read better Dostoevsky! All on the shelves laid out. And such authors remind me of Smerdyakov.
    1. +7
      26 November 2017 16: 16
      Quote: victorrat
      Author! Do not go to Poklonskaya! You don't stand her pinky

      who are you crazy ...? myrrh-streaming too?
    2. +1
      26 November 2017 17: 13
      Quote: victorrat
      Author! Do not go to Poklonskaya! You are not worth her little finger. And as for Teacher, is it not true that he let the state funds go to the left?

      I would say that the possessed in share with the Master
      and about left, tell me what the money was given for?
      1. dSK
        +1
        27 November 2017 02: 28
        Hello Vladimir Ivanovich! Sooner or later, we will all end our earthly journey. For some, it will be a big surprise that the Lord God, who created the entire universe and themselves, is not an invention of obscurantists, but a harsh reality. And you have to answer the Heavenly Father for all his words and deeds. And it will be impossible to return and fix something. hi
        1. 0
          27 November 2017 08: 10
          and why?
  21. +5
    26 November 2017 13: 05
    And what are you unhappy with? You just don’t watch TV. Here a man watched TV and saw an angel.


    but in reality, those in power do not consider us people. Sobyanin 15 million residents of Russia prevented. Remember the then Chernobyl? Ask about the recent ruthenium case ...
    1. +1
      26 November 2017 23: 59
      Sobyanin is a normal mayor; I personally have no complaints against him.
  22. +6
    26 November 2017 13: 31
    And the real "generation of princes"
    ..... These real princes will rule in the future ... In order for the receiver to start the fight against oligarchs and princes, constitutional amendments are needed for this business ... But oligarchies with princes do not need this ... This is necessary "cattle" brainless ... That would rejoice, decorated with ribbons and polished hooves, when they will lead to the slaughterhouse, for uselessness ...
    1. +2
      27 November 2017 00: 09
      "Fighting the oligarchs" -This is how? Introduce a new tax on superprofits - it will not affect them much, we have another misfortune - scammers and swindlers from the people who rip off the people - they are not oligarchs, there are 96 oligarchs in Russia, and they are worth a million and damage to the economy and budget bring much more than all these oligarchs combined.
      1. +2
        27 November 2017 06: 40
        Quote: Vadim237
        "Fighting the oligarchs" -This is how? Introduce a new tax on superprofits - it will not affect them much, we have another misfortune - scammers and swindlers from the people who rip off the people - they are not oligarchs, there are 96 oligarchs in Russia, and they are worth a million and damage to the economy and budget bring much more than all these oligarchs combined.
        The fish rots from the head! And the country is “rotting” with those in power who, “above” set an example to the people!
  23. +8
    26 November 2017 14: 11
    For example, we add in addition Mr. Andrei Grigoryevich Guryev (a former member of the Federation Council of the Russian Federation, and, before that, a wonderful Komsomol leader, then one of the leaders of Menatep.) In 2015, Andrei Guryev owned the $ 500 million Waterhurst estate in London, which is the largest second after Buckingham Palace (a gift for my son for marriage). Well, son, respectively, the General Director of OJSC Fosagro. So in our country rests the statement that nature rests on children. They are all super talented. And another thing works- "An apple does not fall far from an apple tree."
  24. 0
    26 November 2017 14: 34
    Sling cutter,
    Quote: Stroporez
    Stroporez Today, 12:50 ↑ New
    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
    Well, apart from the fact that Vasily had nothing to do with attack aircraft
    Read carefully!

    I read
    After all, it’s no secret that attack aircraft suffered the most severe losses during the war.
    But of those who survived and won, hardly 10 years after the Victory, the rank of colonel hardly anyone had.
  25. 0
    26 November 2017 15: 23
    Let everyone ask himself, and whether he contributed to the arrangement of his son or daughter in moderation своих opportunities? What is drooling here? Envy, because they have more opportunities? Until every slave stops dreaming of becoming a master, the system will live and prosper.
    1. 0
      27 November 2017 19: 14
      That's why I respect Bill Gates, that he leaves his children "only 10 million." The rest let them earn. And our ghouls are not all smoky. And do not mix up the device for work, and impudently fit into the leading posts of your offspring.
  26. 0
    26 November 2017 16: 32
    Quote: zoolu350
    The White Guards had masters (the same) and they could simply order
    If they wanted to combine them, they could easily do it. But they didn’t, although they had their own Romanovs.
    1. 0
      28 November 2017 16: 31
      You watched the movie "Crown of the Russian Empire"? This is where the situation with those Romanovs that the owners of the FRS (uniform circus) was shown is shown. But the daughters and sons of the former king, this is a completely different level of politics, because the situation with the abdication was extremely "muddy".
  27. 0
    26 November 2017 17: 33
    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
    and who is trying ?!
    The communists.
    1. 0
      26 November 2017 17: 49
      Quote: Dart2027
      The communists.

      ??
      Yes?
      and where is utopia?
      1. +2
        26 November 2017 18: 46
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        and where is utopia
        Communism is utopia. In theory, it is beautiful and correct, but in life it is impracticable.
        1. +2
          26 November 2017 19: 29
          Quote: Dart2027
          In theory, it is beautiful and correct, but in life it is impracticable.

          if you don’t take the idiocy of Khrushchev, then everything is right, this idea of ​​development, even if it is unattainable, but this is the goal to which we must strive, there is no goal, there is no development
          1. 0
            26 November 2017 19: 36
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            if you do not take the idiocy of khrushcha then everything is correct

            Yeah ... Khrushchev alone did everything. Do you really believe that? That is, maybe he was the main conspirator, but ten years later he himself was asked.
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            this idea of ​​development, even if it is unattainable, but this is the goal to which one must strive

            The pursuit of an unattainable ideal is a dangerous psychological trap. At first, it really gives a goal to development, but then when the movement becomes an end in itself, self-destruction begins.
            Quote: Dart2027
            And remember that the best is the enemy of the good.
            This saying just reflects a similar situation - striving for an unattainable person destroys what can really be achieved.
            1. 0
              26 November 2017 20: 24
              Quote: Dart2027
              Yeah ... Khrushchev alone did everything. Do you really believe that?

              do not cling, you understand what I mean
              Quote: Dart2027
              The pursuit of an unattainable ideal is a dangerous psychological trap.

              are you orthodox
              Quote: Dart2027
              This saying just reflects a similar situation - striving for an unattainable person destroys what can really be achieved.

              yeah ?!
              that is, a horse is more convenient for you than in a car?
              1. 0
                26 November 2017 22: 24
                Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                do not cling, you understand what I mean
                And I have already told you more than once that the question of "the form of morality" of the party elite was inevitable.
                Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                you are orthodox
                The ideas that are embedded in religion and the ideas embedded in communism are largely similar - but there is one point. Religion does not promise paradise on earth, it calls for a righteous life here (which leads to an improvement in that life in general), but the ideal is outside our world. But communism, like other teachings of enthusiastic idealists, speak of its construction here and now. The problem is that the construction of an ideal society here does not end well.
                Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                that is, on a horse you are more comfortable than in a car
                You can buy a very decent phone that can provide its owner with all the features he needs - communication, the Internet, a lot of gadgets, etc. for quite reasonable money and without much labor. Or you can buy a supernova supeyphone, which in essence will not give you anything fundamentally better, but costs so much that it’s enough to live a month, or even two, while spending a lot of time waiting in line, and which will cease to be “super” in six months, and even earlier.
                1. 0
                  26 November 2017 22: 33
                  Quote: Dart2027
                  . But communism, like other teachings of enthusiastic idealists, speak of its construction here and now.

                  stupidity, HERE, but NOT NOW
                  read labor on this subject
                  1. 0
                    27 November 2017 19: 49
                    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                    stupidity, HERE, but NOT NOW
                    And when?
                    1. 0
                      27 November 2017 20: 38
                      Quote: Dart2027
                      And when?

                      exclusively at the achievement of certain stages of development, read the primary sources
                      1. 0
                        28 November 2017 19: 41
                        It was only assumed that these stages would not take place over millennia, but much faster.
            2. 0
              28 November 2017 16: 34
              In that case, forward to slavery and neo-feudalism! Although the Russian Federation, led by the oligarchy, is following this path with confidence.
  28. 0
    26 November 2017 17: 35
    “Why are herds the gifts of freedom?
    They should be cut or cut.
    Their inheritance from generation to generation
    A rattle yoke and a scourge. ”
  29. 0
    26 November 2017 23: 43
    Quote: Golovan Jack
    I repeat:
    Quote: Golovan Jack
    Shiz mowed our ranks (s)

    Do you think the Romanovs committed suicide? Air conditioning exploded in the palace?
  30. +2
    27 November 2017 00: 16
    It’s always with us that they like to look for those to blame for their personal problems, and in general, on the side. Like - it's those who are to blame for not having a crop.
    1. dSK
      +1
      27 November 2017 02: 36
      Quote: Vadim237
      not a crop.

      Hello Vadim! Yes, "evade evil and do good" - It is very difficult. hi
  31. +1
    27 November 2017 10: 36
    in the article it looks like the monarchists are to blame for the fact that liberals and Westerners have accumulated resources)
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  33. 0
    27 November 2017 10: 56
    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
    the majority did not go to the Party for ideological reasons

    and who is to blame? Lenin, Stalin, Khrushchev, Brezhnev? When it started? My father-in-law flew to the Arctic party in the Arctic, personal gratitude from Stalin is. He is a communist, stole nothing. What next?
    1. 0
      27 November 2017 11: 06
      this cry of the soul for what
      or are you blaming your father-in-law ?!
      1. 0
        27 November 2017 20: 54
        father-in-law has long been in the grave and for me it is a real communist. I abandoned the CPSU for ideological reasons
        1. 0
          28 November 2017 08: 01
          Quote: Overlock
          I abandoned the CPSU for ideological reasons

          voice ideas
          1. 0
            28 November 2017 12: 24
            I was not on the way with the Communist Party. Last time offered in a putsch
  34. +2
    28 November 2017 05: 54
    Restoration of the Monarchy in Russia will not work.
    At the heart of this is the complete non-legitimacy (in relation to the rights to the Russian Throne) of all the remnants of the Romanovs that currently exist. They would simply drive them away and forget about their existence, for good.
    However, stable power is necessary for the country.
    The way out could be the "System of Imperial Democracy" - this is when the head of Russia is the Emperor, appointed by the State Council for a term of 15 years, with the possibility of reappointment for the same term (15 years). And the members of the State Council are the Chairman and deputies (Department Heads + "rank-and-file") of the State Duma, the Senate, composed of current Governors, + Prime Minister, Minister of Defense, Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces, Admiral of the Fleet of Russia, Head of the KGB, Head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs - acting at the time of the Election. In total - up to 450 - 500 people.
    And at the same time, the Presidium of the State Council is simultaneously selected from its 15 members, which, together with the Elected Emperor, exercises direct strategic management of the country. The tactics are in charge of the Government, which is appointed by the Emperor and the Presidium of the State Council in its expanded composition (industry experts).
    Governors, as Mayors of cities, 50% are elected, 50% are appointed by the Emperor (Governors), or Governors (Mayors).
    A very simple and, most likely, effective Management System.
    The main thing is that it is not difficult to realize it - there would be a desire.
    1. +1
      28 November 2017 16: 36
      Before you came up with this system in the USSR.
      1. 0
        28 November 2017 16: 47
        Give me a link.
        1. 0
          28 November 2017 17: 06
          By analogy with the former Union CEC, the Supreme Soviet of the USSR consisted of two chambers - the Council of the Union and the Council of Nationalities, equally vested with the right to legislative initiative. The main form of work of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR was sessions convened in accordance with the Constitution twice a year. At a joint meeting of both chambers, the Supreme Soviet of the USSR elected the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR consisting of 37 people (chairman, 11 deputies in accordance with the number of union republics, secretary and 24 members of the Presidium). The highest executive and administrative body of state power and management remained the Council of People's Commissars of the USSR, which carried out the management of branches of the national economy through people's commissariats, committees and commissions. The powers of the government included: monitoring the implementation of national economic plans and the state budget, ensuring public order, etc. The Council of People's Commissars was formed by the Supreme Soviet of the USSR and in its activities was accountable to the Supreme Council and its Presidium. In accordance with the 1936 Constitution, the system of local Soviets was also changed. The former Soviets of workers, peasants, and Red Army deputies were transformed into Soviets of Workers' Deputies. Congresses of Soviets were abolished. The administrative bodies on the ground, as before, were the executive committees of the Soviets, in the hands of which there was real power. The 1936 Constitution, in comparison with the first Union Constitution, significantly expanded the powers of all-Union bodies. The right to publish their own Codes of Laws was withdrawn from the Union republics, as was the right to resolve issues of labor law, court law and the administrative-territorial structure. The Supreme Soviet of the USSR, by giving it the right to appoint investigative and audit commissions, was given the opportunity to control the entire state apparatus.
          http://studopedia.org/8-126039.html
          1. +1
            29 November 2017 05: 04
            A very weak analogy to what I wrote.
            Plus, likeness is not equality.
            I gave only a diagram of the device of the Control System, and yet, I see this system is fully functional and can be effective.
  35. 0
    28 November 2017 20: 23
    Dart2027,
    Dart2027,
    Quote: Dart2027
    It was only assumed that these stages would not take place over millennia, but much faster.

    yeah and where exactly is it written? !!!
  36. 0
    28 November 2017 20: 48
    Vasilenko Vladimir,
    You want to say that Shoigu has already cut his coat of arms with a jigsaw? Or a new one?

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