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Russia was deprived of 1-th team place at the end of the Olympics-2014

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The doping insinuations of WADA at the suggestion of fluent Grigory Rodchenkov, acting on the orders of the North American intelligence services, led to the fact that the Russian national team was deprived of the first team place in the Winter Olympics in Sochi. From the first step of the team pedestal, the Russian national team shifted the decision to annul the results of bobsledder Alexander Zubkov, bobslediana Olga Stulneva, as well as skaters Olga Fatkulina and Alexander Rumyantsev.


Russia was deprived of 1-th team place at the end of the Olympics-2014


Recall that the crew of Alexander Zubkov won the competition in both twos and fours, and Stulneva, together with Lyudmila Odekkina, won in ninth place in the competitions of twos. Olga Fatkulina became 2 at the distance of 500 m, Rumyantsev - 11 at the distance of 5 thousand m.

As a result, instead of 33 awards of various denominations, the “Wadows” left Russia with 26 medals, of which 10 are gold instead of the original thirteen.

This is unprecedented pressure on both the Russian national team and the entire country several months before the start of the Winter Olympic Games in the Republic of Korea. It is quite clear that the Russian national team is going to be demoralized, so that even if they are admitted to the Games, the Russians could not show their best form.

The attraction of “democratic justice”, when WADA closes its eyes to doping by Western athletes and stares intently at scratches and dust particles on a test tube with samples from any Russian athlete, continues.
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  1. 210ox
    210ox 24 November 2017 18: 56
    31
    But Mutko has everything in chocolate. What does sport and prestige of the country have to do with it? When is the loot first of all.
    1. destination
      destination 24 November 2017 18: 59
      +4
      good Here is the case when you want to add something, but they already said everything before you ... hi hi hi
      1. Monos
        Monos 24 November 2017 19: 20
        25
        Uncle Kolya from Chelyabinsk does not need Olympic medals. Because Uncle Kolya takes dope with his friends every night. laughing
        1. Scoun
          Scoun 24 November 2017 20: 13
          +5
          Quote: Monos
          Uncle Kolya from Chelyabinsk does not need Olympic medals. Because Uncle Kolya takes dope with his friends every night. laughing

          In give! They work without gloves! wassat
          1. Vladimir16
            Vladimir16 24 November 2017 21: 35
            20
            It’s high time to send the fuck these "deprived". Cannot be deprived of medals. Lishalka did not grow. The medal has found its owner. Ours won the competition and the point was set by playing our anthem and presenting gold medals.
            They, these Western pederasts, will soon say that we are deprived of victory in the Great Patriotic War. I would not be surprised at such idiocy. Yes, they already sing to everyone that mattresses defeated European fascism. But they are nonsense always and in everything.
            We don’t need to drive our other functionaries on the spot, these are our tips and we ourselves will correct the cuckoo. This is not a whirlwind raving, and the Anglo-Saxons and their henchmen. Do not follow their lead. It is worth sending them to the buoy.
          2. Makarov
            Makarov 24 November 2017 23: 05
            +1
            Summer is in the yard ... what gloves?)
            1. Skarpzd
              Skarpzd 25 November 2017 02: 51
              0
              who canceled labor protection? also without helmets. how everything is launched in Chelyabinsk ((
          3. not main
            not main 24 November 2017 23: 41
            +1
            Quote: Scoun
            In give! They work without gloves! wassat

            And gloves reduce finger sensitivity. I also prefer to work without gloves!
      2. minomoto
        minomoto 24 November 2017 23: 51
        +4
        This speech is better
    2. svp67
      svp67 24 November 2017 19: 09
      +7
      Quote: 210ox
      But Mutko and all are in chocolate.

      Yes, a person lives and does not blow a mustache ...
      But this is not the limit:
      Russia was deprived of 1-th team place at the end of the Olympics-2014
      Wait, what else will happen with the 2018 World Cup ...
      1. Alexander rr
        Alexander rr 24 November 2017 19: 17
        +5
        So they were deprived for the specific use of doping, or according to the report of McLaren and Co. ...? about this in our news no gu-gu ... !!!
        1. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 24 November 2017 19: 27
          13
          Quote: Alexander-rr
          So they were deprived for the specific use of doping, or according to the report of McLaren and Co. ...? about this in our news no gu-gu ... !!!

          Because the president of our country is Putin !!!
          1. Starover_Z
            Starover_Z 24 November 2017 21: 58
            +2
            Quote: SRC P-15
            Quote: Alexander-rr
            So they were deprived for the specific use of doping, or according to the report of McLaren and Co. ...? about this in our news no gu-gu ... !!!

            Because the president of our country is Putin !!!

            And I think that they are taking revenge for the failed Syrian campaign! Barmaley beat and chased, staff members because of them lose tidbits of the Syrian territory ...
            Here and take revenge!
            1. Pirogov
              Pirogov 25 November 2017 00: 12
              +4
              Quote: Starover_Z
              And I think that they are taking revenge for the failed Syrian campaign! Barmaley beat and chased, staff members because of them lose tidbits of the Syrian territory ...
              Here and take revenge!

              This is one of the reasons. And they are taking revenge on us since the 10th century, and we see all partners in them.
              1. 34 region
                34 region 25 November 2017 01: 08
                0
                Pirogov Today, 00:12. A horse and spurs are also partners, like a horse with a whip and a dog with a stick! laughing
        2. svp67
          svp67 24 November 2017 19: 28
          10
          Quote: Alexander-rr
          So they were deprived for the specific use of doping, or according to the report of McLaren and Co. ...?

          Yes, full of that. They were deprived due to SUSPICIONS of the possibility of doping in the implementation of a certain State Program. And this is only the MIDDLE, the “berries” are yet to come. Our "slurred" sports leadership is just AFRAID in the western courts, they are suing, since various moments will start to come out ... And our Athletes will be the losers, in all respects.
          1. Odysseus
            Odysseus 24 November 2017 22: 23
            11
            Quote: svp67
            Our "slurred" sports leadership is just AFRAID in the western courts is suing, as various moments will start to come out ...

            For all my critical attitude towards the leadership of the Russian Federation as a whole, in this case it has nothing to do with it. The idea of ​​suing “western courts” is similar to the idea of ​​suing, controlled by a bandit group, against a bandit who robbed you.
            With the same success, you can file a lawsuit in our courts on revising the results of privatization.
            In reality, it was necessary — or it used to be to fight for influence on administrative bodies (IOC, WADA) and here, unfortunately, work was carried out as in Ukraine until 2014, that is, in no way, and this is really the fault of the sports leadership. Or stand to the end and send WADU and the IOC with all their claims without fear of any disqualifications. But this contradicts the general idea of ​​the Russian authorities about PR in sports of the highest achievements, the holding of the World Cup, etc.
            That is, at the moment there is a stalemate.
            1. svp67
              svp67 25 November 2017 04: 13
              +1
              Quote: Odyssey
              For all my critical attitude towards the leadership of the Russian Federation as a whole, in this case it has nothing to do with it.

              And I said something about the leadership of the Russian Federation? No. Although part of his guilt is the same, mainly from the special services. I’m talking about sports functionaries. What no one knew what Rodchinkov was doing? That his sister comes across the sale of doping, no one read her testimony about the role of his brother in this process. They thought that once smeared, it would be obedient .... None of the sports officials and their curators saw that our representatives were “washed out” from the leaderships of world sports federations and organizations, that people who were not a fan of sports come to the leadership of our sports federations, but "effective managers" who do "miracles" there? And so on and so forth ... These functionaries are “covered up” in many scandals, mainly financial ones, so they are afraid that a lot will come out in Western courts.
            2. Kent0001
              Kent0001 25 November 2017 09: 17
              0
              She is not a stalemate, she is TOTALLY NOT IN OUR BENEFIT. And then it will only get worse. We do not have authority to somehow influence this. I would not want to admit this, but in reality there are a lot of countries where they simply no longer reckon with, as with some kind of 4th world country. Sorry, so sorry.
        3. ZAV69
          ZAV69 24 November 2017 20: 28
          +1
          Why not gu gu? The IOC Commission said that these are only conclusions, the details will be after .... but when ...... silence about it
    3. Lavrenti Pavlovich
      Lavrenti Pavlovich 24 November 2017 19: 53
      11
      Quote: 210ox
      But Mutko has everything in chocolate. What does sport and prestige of the country have to do with it? When is the loot first of all.

      The very name Mutko, especially if you change one letter in the middle, speaks of a person. But here Mutko cannot do anything, Kremlin pressure and big money are needed. As I wrote earlier, power rules in the world, to be afraid means respect. Which countries are ready to support us in the conflict with WADA? What Russia can do: You can declare WADA incompetent and break relations, then we will find ourselves in isolation. To boycott the Olympics, the support of at least a dozen countries is needed. A missile strike at WADA headquarters is ridiculous. To prove the purity of our athletes is even funnier, because the tubes are located in WADA (USA) and they open at their discretion, they do the examination, they can cheat as they like and no one can control them (except for the US special services). The real thing that Russia can do is, if possible, to arrest the leaders of WADA and bring to trial in Russia, even if one or two are imprisoned, then the same McLaren will no longer calmly visit different countries, Rodchenkova should be entrusted to special services that would be either brought to Russia or an ice ax - Other defectors will be science.
      1. Ulan
        Ulan 24 November 2017 20: 36
        +4
        It is high time. And yet, if we continue to demolish this meanness, nothing will change. It may still be outraged, stop financing WADA in which there is NOT A single representative of Russia and only one representative from China, stop financing the IOC, the scandal is such a scandal, I don’t think everyone will like such a scandal.
        Yes, they may not support us, but at least the problem will be raised.
        Special services, and Rodchenkov must be hid in the crypt, and tremble, meanness must be punished. But it cannot go on like this anymore. We will be silent, they will finish off.
      2. Starover_Z
        Starover_Z 24 November 2017 22: 00
        +1
        Quote: Lavrenty Pavlovich
        Rodchenkov- entrust the special services

        Send him an ice ax and a box of chocolates by mail!
    4. Nikolai Grek
      Nikolai Grek 24 November 2017 21: 53
      +4
      Quote: 210ox
      But Mutko has everything in chocolate. What does sport and prestige of the country have to do with it? When is the loot first of all.

      what was Mutko supposed to do ??? to go personally to the courts for our athletes and shoot all the judges ??? laughing laughing laughing Why pretend to be fools and yell about our officials from sports, even if it’s completely stupid to understand that there is an attitude against our country and athletes ?? !!! fool fool fool
    5. papas-57
      papas-57 25 November 2017 01: 24
      +3
      I don’t understand anything. If innocent and everything is clean, then why not sue WADA and McLaren with reimbursement of huge sums for libel. Suspicions will not pass in court; facts and evidence are needed there. If, however, the bourgeoisie is right and ours has flown large, then stop the tantrum and crocodile tears in the press that the poor are unjustly offended by us.
      1. Alexander rr
        Alexander rr 27 November 2017 20: 00
        0
        I completely agree !!!
    6. Maz
      Maz 25 November 2017 09: 22
      +1
      What did you think we were dealing with gentlemen? They are for the defeat in Syria and not so villainous arrange. Their immediate goal is a football championship
    7. dSK
      dSK 25 November 2017 22: 47
      +1
      Russia will refuse to show the 2018 Winter Olympics in Pyeongchang if the Russian team is not allowed to participate in them. This is stated by television commentator Vasily Utkin in his Telegram channel. Utkin says the Olympics will not be shown "in any form" if Russian athletes are not allowed. "And this is not an initiative of television channels. It a decision taken at the presidential administration level, - says Vasily Utkin. - X-Day - December 6. "It became known earlier that in early December the International Olympic Committee (IOC) will decide on the participation of Russian athletes in the Games. (Orthodox TV channel Tsargrad 19:59., 25.11.2017/XNUMX/XNUMX.) hi
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 26 November 2017 08: 30
        0
        Quote: dsk
        Russia will refuse to show the Winter Olympic Games 2018

        good morning, it's been two weeks since voiced
  2. Chinganchuk
    Chinganchuk 24 November 2017 18: 56
    +7
    The humiliation of Russia continues .... Well done gentlemen!
    1. EwgenyZ
      EwgenyZ 24 November 2017 19: 07
      10
      An urgent need to express concern!
      1. svp67
        svp67 24 November 2017 19: 32
        +4
        Quote: EwgenyZ
        An urgent need to express concern!

        You can even more formidable and more terrible - to strip the trial and do nothing for this.
        1. EwgenyZ
          EwgenyZ 24 November 2017 19: 40
          +1
          Quote: svp67
          Quote: EwgenyZ
          An urgent need to express concern!
          You can even more formidable and more terrible - to strip the trial and do nothing for this.

          Well, you can. The main thing is that it sounds worse!
          1. Ulan
            Ulan 24 November 2017 20: 37
            +1
            Sands can, all WADA will run away from fear. wassat belay
        2. Nikolai Grek
          Nikolai Grek 24 November 2017 21: 56
          +2
          Quote: svp67
          Quote: EwgenyZ
          An urgent need to express concern!

          You can even more formidable and more terrible - to strip the trial and do nothing for this.

          The Court of Arbitration for Sport in Lausanne (CAS) issued its verdict in a class action lawsuit of the Russian Olympic Committee (ROC) and 68 Russian athletes against the International Association of Athletics Federations (IAAF) regarding the non-admission of all domestic athletes to international competitions, including the 2016 Games in Rio de janeiro.

          CAS rejected the lawsuit, which was examined last Tuesday, the press service of the arbitration.

          “In view of the urgency of this case, CAS publishes only its decision, which was unanimous. The full reasoning part will follow later,” reads the text of the press release.

          More details: http://www.newsru.com/sport/21jul2016/cas.html

          Do you think the courts are sitting straight and waiting for the claims of our athletes in order to immediately cancel all restrictions and allow ours to any kind of competition ???
          1. Ulan
            Ulan 24 November 2017 22: 10
            +1
            And why should our courts not be involved? Yes, they do not have international jurisdiction, but US courts also, however, are judged. We will implement the decisions of our courts, who can stop us?
            Well, for example, the court may decide that the decision to deprive our athletes of medals is illegal and do not give away medals.
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 24 November 2017 22: 25
              +2
              Quote: Ulan
              And why should our courts not be involved?

              Yes, it’s possible not our main thing is not sporting and to make any mention of sports is suing for loot, but when they start paying then they start thinking
              1. Nikolai Grek
                Nikolai Grek 24 November 2017 23: 46
                +3
                Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                Quote: Ulan
                And why should our courts not be involved?

                Yes, it’s possible not our main thing is not sporting and to make any mention of sports is suing for loot, but when they start paying then they start thinking

                Russian cyclists sue McLaren
                For non-admission to the Olympics, they demand compensation of $ 7 million
                The lawsuit is filed with the Ontario Supreme Court (located in Toronto, Canada). It is in Canada, in the city of Montreal, that the WADA headquarters are based, in addition, Richard Maclaren is a Canadian, and is a lawyer from the University of Western Ontario. And under Canadian law, libel suits must be considered solely at the place of violation.

                https://www.stav.kp.ru/daily/26730/3757024/

                let's see how the case ends !!!
            2. Nikolai Grek
              Nikolai Grek 24 November 2017 23: 41
              +2
              Quote: Ulan
              And why should our courts not be involved? Yes, they do not have international jurisdiction, but US courts also, however, are judged. We will implement the decisions of our courts, who can stop us?
              Well, for example, the court may decide that the decision to deprive our athletes of medals is illegal and do not give away medals.

              what what what when we build our system in all areas around the world, which will be "hegemonic", then we will sue !!! Your proposal about our ships is not relevant at the moment !!!
              1. Ulan
                Ulan 25 November 2017 15: 02
                +1
                The fact itself is important, is it really incomprehensible. Until the carrot conspiracy, we will wait until we build it around the world.
                Now we need to do something in all directions, and not wait when we build, when we fix, when we find allies.
                It just means giving up action. Means never.
          2. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 24 November 2017 22: 24
            +3
            Quote: Nikolai the Greek
            CAS rejected the lawsuit, which was examined last Tuesday, the press service of the arbitration.

            yes put on this arbitration court
            initiate proceedings in general civil courts, on the fact of libel, lost reputation, lost profits from disrupted advertising contracts, institute against specific individuals
            we always fight according to their rules, but we need to dictate our
            1. Nikolai Grek
              Nikolai Grek 24 November 2017 23: 48
              +2
              Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
              Quote: Nikolai the Greek
              CAS rejected the lawsuit, which was examined last Tuesday, the press service of the arbitration.

              yes put on this arbitration court
              initiate proceedings in general civil courts, on the fact of libel, lost reputation, lost profits from disrupted advertising contracts, institute against specific individuals
              we always fight according to their rules, but we need to dictate our

              I threw off about civil courts above .. let's look at their honesty, objectivity and justice !!! yes yes yes
          3. svp67
            svp67 25 November 2017 04: 17
            0
            Quote: Nikolai the Greek
            Do you think the courts are sitting straight and waiting for the claims of our athletes in order to immediately cancel all restrictions and allow ours to any kind of competition ???

            No. Do not wait. But something our officials are waiting for. They do not go any further. There, after all, there are not only sports courts, and it is not necessary to file class actions, but personal ones. Since among the whole team, you can find at least one person because of whom you can reject this lawsuit, but you need to deal with a personal lawsuit specifically. And already in case of victory in them, it is possible to move collective.
    2. astankard
      astankard 24 November 2017 19: 07
      +4
      If someone humiliates someone, then only the West is himself.) ... And then there is nowhere else.
      1. the most important
        the most important 24 November 2017 19: 40
        +5
        Quote: astankard
        And nowhere else to go.

        And tomorrow, these clowns will decide that in 1945 the Russians were probably under some kind of drug and unanimously vote that the Americans took Berlin ...
        1. astankard
          astankard 24 November 2017 20: 18
          +1
          And they already say so .... Everywhere and everyone was defeated.)))
        2. Lavrenti Pavlovich
          Lavrenti Pavlovich 25 November 2017 07: 02
          +1
          Quote: the most important
          Quote: astankard
          And nowhere else to go.

          And tomorrow, these clowns will decide that in 1945 the Russians were probably under some kind of drug and unanimously vote that the Americans took Berlin ...

          No - they will transfer the victory over Germany to the Americans, and ours will be disqualified retroactively. All veterans will have to return the rewards. If someone blundered so long as the USSR was.
    3. Alber
      Alber 24 November 2017 19: 11
      0
      Quote: Chingangchuk
      The humiliation of Russia continues .... Well done gentlemen!

      Mudkov’s mafia is to blame for everything
      1. Chinganchuk
        Chinganchuk 24 November 2017 21: 13
        +1
        Quote: Alber
        Quote: Chingangchuk
        The humiliation of Russia continues .... Well done gentlemen!

        Mudkov’s mafia is to blame for everything

        Maybe already, immediately directly express everything ..? Putin is guilty of all these sanctions and it’s time to go out into the swamp with shouts of “Down with Putin and leave ..” and then again in the 90s ..? Remember the massacre ..

        The stoned devils will be torn to Russia .. soldier
  3. major071
    major071 24 November 2017 18: 56
    37
    There is no dope in the USA! There are all white and fluffy:

    Obviously an American gymnast is covering her Faberge with her hands
    1. bouncyhunter
      bouncyhunter 24 November 2017 19: 08
      +8
      Greetings virtuoso rhymes! hi Under such a picture, the inscription "Feel the difference!" . yes As for WADA, it’s their place in hell! am
      1. burigaz2010
        burigaz2010 24 November 2017 19: 17
        +7
        Hi Pasha, we are spread rot on the full!
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 24 November 2017 19: 20
          10
          Hi, Misha . Yes, bullying on all fronts. And all sorts of turbidity only chew snot. Decent words are already missing! negative
          1. dr.star75
            dr.star75 24 November 2017 19: 29
            12
            Come on! In 2014 WE were the FIRST, and as the press in 2017, this will describe, according to FIG. In 1945 - we were the first! And as the Americans now describe it, this is their problem!
            1. bouncyhunter
              bouncyhunter 24 November 2017 19: 32
              +7
              Speak correctly, but it's a shame anyway.
              1. dr.star75
                dr.star75 24 November 2017 19: 39
                +8
                On offended carry water. We are not offended, but draw conclusions. And what can Mutko do? To declare war on amers? Does he have a lot of powers? Well, what exactly? Knife stab like an Ossetian? We lose drool, we lose snot and horizontal bar, we execute the program .. TRP.
                1. Ulan
                  Ulan 24 November 2017 20: 40
                  +3
                  What can? He may at least once remember that there is such a thing as conscience and will resign. True, it sounds like science fiction.
                2. Nikolai Grek
                  Nikolai Grek 24 November 2017 21: 59
                  +2
                  Quote: dr.star75
                  And what can Mutko do? Declare war amers?

                  good good good for some reason, many do not understand this and continue to talk about Mutko !!! wassat wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
                  Quote: dr.star75
                  how ossetian?

                  Ossetians right !!! good good good
                  1. Ulan
                    Ulan 24 November 2017 22: 12
                    +1
                    Yes, let him at least do something at last! Well, at least hang himself in protest.
                    Some over there are self-immolating in protest. And this one, nothing.
            2. Pete mitchell
              Pete mitchell 24 November 2017 19: 35
              +8
              Quote: dr.star75
              In 2014, WE were FIRST, and as the press in 2017, this will describe, according to FIG. In 1945 - we were the first! And as the Americans now describe it, this is their problem!

              Politically argue dear. Since everything is upside down in this world, one must not only be the first, one must be prepared for information battles, otherwise they will trample. Yes, and younger generations will have a wrong perception of the world.
              1. dr.star75
                dr.star75 24 November 2017 19: 57
                +2
                I agree. But in 2014 WE were the first at the Olympics. And this needs to be brought to the whole world. And now, it’s a good idea to rush through 2014. Now we need to fight for 2018
                1. Ulan
                  Ulan 24 November 2017 20: 43
                  +4
                  I have no doubt that this whole international mafia from sports and the United States behind them will definitely try to do this. Do not forget that the US team did not get to the World Cup-18 and nothing holds back the Americans.
                  I suspect that there will be a vile provocation. either a new Boeing, or something will explode in Kiev, or the Ukrainian train will be derailed, or the APU will start a war, and Russia will be blamed for everything, as it was on 8.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX, and the brazen world media will create the necessary background.
                  In general, they feel that we are still waiting for a provocation, and probably not one.
                  1. dr.star75
                    dr.star75 24 November 2017 21: 13
                    0
                    We understood your doubts, they are true. I dug a cellar, stocking up on groceries. Truth?
                    1. Ulan
                      Ulan 24 November 2017 22: 14
                      +1
                      Lately something caught on. I built a garage with a cellar 25 years ago.
                  2. Natalia777
                    Natalia777 24 November 2017 21: 29
                    +4
                    Russian Lulea USA beg. They envy Napoleon and Hitler, they want to even the score. For Ukraine, the United States will receive in full - they will see the sky in diamonds. Whoever comes to Russia with a sword will die from the sword.
                    1. Kondratko
                      Kondratko 25 November 2017 01: 19
                      +1
                      To the joy or unfortunately, recalling the bitterness of past defeats, geeks are now afraid to come to us with a sword, now they have another main weapon in their place - a shovel with a bunch of shit.
                      And "heaven in diamonds" to arrange them oh as you want, and they themselves ask, maybe interrogated ...
            3. Young_Communist
              Young_Communist 24 November 2017 19: 36
              0
              Quote: dr.star75
              Come on! In 2014 WE were the FIRST, and as the press in 2017, this will describe, according to FIG.

              Unfortunately - this is not the case until the opposite. As they describe in 2017,2078,2174, so in that reality it will be.
              1. dr.star75
                dr.star75 24 November 2017 19: 59
                +3
                In "their" reality, and not in OURS. And then the principle of information comes in: whoever first reported is true.
          2. vovanpain
            vovanpain 24 November 2017 20: 05
            +8
            Quote: bouncyhunter
            Yes, bullying on all fronts. And all sorts of turbidity only chew snot. Decent words are already missing!

            Hello Be Brother! drinks hi The worst thing is that our athletes will turn out to be extreme, I won’t talk about mudka and the others who are useless like a goat’s milk. Submit to the court? And who are the judges? Should I call Caliber or Yars and Topol on VAD? yes And in Washington, too, with great pleasure, but after that there will already be other games - Military, who will shoot someone, First Kolenka with the Bundestag, now Wada with doping and this is far from the last run over, the Paralympics were swallowed, now we swallow it. hi
            Quote: dr.star75
            In 2014, WE were FIRST, and as the press in 2017, this will describe, according to FIG.

            Exactly Michael hi For us, they will always be FIRST. hi
            1. bouncyhunter
              bouncyhunter 24 November 2017 20: 11
              +3
              And you don’t get sick, brother Vlad! hi drinks drinks drinks
              Quote: vovanpain
              The worst thing is that our athletes will be extreme

              This is what makes you angry! For the sake of dishonest politicians, people suffer who have nothing to do with politics from the word "completely"! negative
          3. Chinganchuk
            Chinganchuk 24 November 2017 20: 12
            +2
            Quote: bouncyhunter
            Yes, bullying on all fronts. And all sorts of turbidity only chew snot. Decent words are not enough

            It's right....! They will bring down Putin, the main Chinganchuk of Russia! .
            And then they will simply destroy the Russians, like the Indians on the American continent .. And that’s it!
      2. Tusv
        Tusv 24 November 2017 19: 28
        +4
        Quote: bouncyhunter
        As for WADA, it’s their place in hell!

        Friend hi WADA has nothing to do with it, they are fulfilling the order. No more. Sharapova returned her good name, because she herself hired lawyers and quite possibly had money from this. Our bureaucrats chew snot. The State would have taken legal costs for personal claims and Voila. fsya this shobla would have to billions of dollars to our athletes and take off their hat or squat for a mile away in knicksen and God forbid they don’t do it, and since they have all the genders, they will sit down for reliability, they’ll take off their hat and perform sharkash. That smile will definitely be with them am
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 24 November 2017 19: 35
          +4
          Vladimir, welcome! hi
          Quote: Tusv
          WADA has nothing to do with it, they are fulfilling the order.

          Order accepted, then blame. What prevented to refuse?
          Quote: Tusv
          The State would have taken legal costs for personal claims and Voila. fsya this shobla would have to billions of dollars to our athletes and take off their hat or squat for a mile away in knicksen and God forbid they don’t do it, and since they have all the genders, they will sit down for reliability, they’ll take off their hat and perform sharkash.

          I agree to all 120% good
          1. Tusv
            Tusv 24 November 2017 19: 52
            +1
            Quote: bouncyhunter
            Order accepted, then blame. What prevented to refuse?

            E. Try to refuse such a "tempting" offer. Although it may be, when Vladimir Vladimirovich gives the command "Fas" to the FSB and the GRU. Not well, I hope that Maclaren will have a pale look and pasta gait, at least a wooden mac and music in the house, at most
            1. bouncyhunter
              bouncyhunter 24 November 2017 19: 56
              +4
              Quote: Tusv
              Try to refuse such a "tempting" offer.

              I suspect that there were not even attempts. sad
              Quote: Tusv
              maybe we’ll wait until Vladimir Vladimirovich gives the command “Fas” to the FSB and the GRU. Not well, I hope that Maclaren will have a pale look and pasta gait, at least a wooden mac and music in the house, at most

              I fully share your expectations and hopes. good And I hope that not only Maclaren, but also all the other involved relatives of the Lyuli will snatch off at the very least. drinks
              1. Tusv
                Tusv 24 November 2017 20: 09
                +1
                Quote: bouncyhunter
                I suspect that there were not even attempts

                You still don’t know what the KGB is. drinks Very polite people. If you are not a spy, then you do everything for free.
                Do you think the Yankees have something different? All the same, only less freedom. I even showed the representative of the Office a bent arm at the elbow and I didn’t have anything for it, but right there in the loop
                1. bouncyhunter
                  bouncyhunter 24 November 2017 20: 16
                  +3
                  Yes, I understand that the mattress CIA took the leadership of WADA for Faberge, since the secret services have enough dirt for them, I have no doubt. Just a resentment about the Western persecution of Russia ...
                  1. Tusv
                    Tusv 24 November 2017 20: 24
                    +1
                    Quote: bouncyhunter
                    Just a resentment about the Western persecution of Russia ...

                    Such is the bum. They want to make plasticine Vovochka out of Vladimir Vladimirovich. Their brains are made of plastic material or, instead of the mind, a burning bird droppings so that Kontorsky sells. They didn’t even buy a Borusik. repeat
                    1. bouncyhunter
                      bouncyhunter 24 November 2017 20: 31
                      +3
                      Quote: Tusv
                      Their brains are made of plastic material or, instead of the mind, a burning bird droppings so that Kontorsky sells.

                      A mixture of black oil banana with sprats. Japanese spicy vegetable im in clus, and not buy GDP. yes
                      1. Tusv
                        Tusv 24 November 2017 20: 48
                        +1
                        And ischo last desire. Do you remember such a bearded joke about a goldfish?
                        - And the last wish to the boatswain
                        And he wakes up on the traverse Shore
                        - An anchor in my ass, if it's not Gagra.
                        Since our ancestors have their chronology much more than in the Bible, both Vernadsky and Gumilyov almost proved the Biosphere of Russia .... The bourgeoisie will have a hard time. I believe in it, which means it will be. The thought is material
                    2. bouncyhunter
                      bouncyhunter 24 November 2017 21: 01
                      +3
                      Quote: Tusv
                      Do you remember such a bearded joke about a goldfish?

                      Of course I remember .
                      Quote: Tusv
                      Since our ancestors have their chronology much more than in the Bible, both Vernadsky and Gumilyov almost proved the Biosphere of Russia .... The bourgeoisie will have a hard time. I believe in it, which means it will be. The thought is material

                      I subscribe to your words! good The West, led by Matrasia, also knows and understands this, so they are trying with all their might to oppose Russia. But nothing will come of it. We stand on that and will stand!
                      1. Tusv
                        Tusv 24 November 2017 21: 18
                        +2
                        Quote: bouncyhunter
                        I subscribe to your words!

                        Well, I won’t be pleased, Az Esm Will be rewarded as quickly as possible, because I myself “sunbathed” in Gumista, I could even give 10 eyes a head start in ping pong with my left hand. From doping - a simple citramone, although it thundered to the Olympic base of the Soviet Union in judo
          2. Nikolai Grek
            Nikolai Grek 24 November 2017 22: 05
            +3
            Quote: bouncyhunter
            Quote: Tusv
            WADA has nothing to do with it, they are fulfilling the order.
            Order accepted, then blame. What prevented to refuse?

            good good good in-in .. Tuswa’s strange logic, they fulfill the order, but the type itself has nothing to do with it !!!! wassat wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
            Quote: bouncyhunter
            The State would have taken legal costs for personal claims and Voila. fsya this shobla would have to billions of dollars to our athletes and take off their hat or squat for a mile away in knicksen and God forbid they don’t do it, and since they have all the genders, they will sit down for reliability, they’ll take off their hat and perform sharkash.
            I agree to all 120%

            I also agree to 200, the current question is how theirs will behave ... it is very doubtful that the proceedings will be objective and fair !!! negative negative negative I remember our cyclists filed in Canada for * a blow to Maklash for libel !!! let's see how it ends !!! request request request
            1. Tusv
              Tusv 25 November 2017 07: 21
              0
              Quote: Nikolai Grek
              I also agree to 200, the current question is how theirs will behave ... it is very doubtful that the proceedings will be objective and fair !!!

              My regional powerhouse, wrapped in a grandmother's gallop to cosmic heights should be purple, as their courts will lead. If they don’t want to be debunked, to the same cosmic heights, then they will behave correctly. Otherwise, why the hell will they be needed? And how will they look into the eyes of the ordinary bourgeois people?
        2. dr.star75
          dr.star75 24 November 2017 21: 08
          +1
          Sharapova returned "good name?" Yes, she is S. Traitor and s-ka. Yes, she sold our team to the Amers, repented before the Amers, and continues to advocate for “Russia.” This is like Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya, for example, who, instead of basting the Nazis, would write a penitent letter to Rekh. And we are all heading to our Masha ... absurdity
    2. svp67
      svp67 24 November 2017 19: 11
      +5
      Quote: major071
      Obviously an American gymnast is covering her Faberge with her hands

      It’s a sin to laugh at a SICK person. Her collection of references is thicker than the Bible ...
    3. Reserve officer
      Reserve officer 24 November 2017 19: 13
      13
      I understand that the same Maclaren will answer this, that Mustafina has exhaustion from doping.
      My father told me when I was still going to kindergarten - "Be strong. Both in soul and muscle. The best wives are with the strong. The best children are with the strong. And never let humiliate your family."
      I would like to repeat the same to our president.
    4. Nikolai Grek
      Nikolai Grek 24 November 2017 21: 57
      +5
      Quote: major071
      There is no dope in the USA! There are all white and fluffy:

      Obviously an American gymnast is covering her Faberge with her hands

      By the way, this Abzyana won several medals at once !!! Americans do not accept doping like many, but all medalists !!! wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing although according to statistics they have a lot of athletes involved in doping !!!
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 24 November 2017 22: 27
        +1
        Quote: Nikolai the Greek
        this monkey

        I wonder how much to drink repeat
        1. Nikolai Grek
          Nikolai Grek 24 November 2017 23: 53
          +2
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          Quote: Nikolai the Greek
          this monkey

          I wonder how much to drink repeat

          laughing laughing not naya !!! most likely you have to sit on the dope she uses !!! laughing laughing laughing
        2. Nikolai Grek
          Nikolai Grek 25 November 2017 00: 14
          +2
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          Quote: Nikolai the Greek
          this monkey

          I wonder how much to drink repeat

          By the way, I recall how our commentator was reporting when this bibizyan was performing !!! and then our age-old Olympic champion was leading ... so she admired how this abbess can concentrate and perform on aerobatics !!! wassat wassat wassat in the end, when they threw off the info that this creature on amphetamines was sitting according to the prescription, the commentator paused that, they say, now it’s clear where she got such a "concentration" from !!! wassat wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing
    5. SAF
      SAF 25 November 2017 17: 42
      0
      3-4. Irina and Tamara Press (USSR)
      Type of sport: athletics.
      When: after retirement and still.

      A mysterious story related to the sudden simultaneous refusal of the sisters Irina (Olympic champion in hurdles and pentathlon) and Tamara (Olympic champion in discus throwing and shot put) from all competitions after the introduction of the mandatory gender test excites the sports world so far.

      And although foreign journalists did not have any evidence (except for photographs and a synchronous career end in their best years), they came up with the nickname “Brothers Press” when they were still starting.

      http://s00.yaplakal.com/pics/pics_preview/1/8/0/6
      307081.jpg


  4. burigaz2010
    burigaz2010 24 November 2017 18: 58
    +8
    Yes, damn how much can you endure? I understand Putin, but this is chaos !!!!
    1. seal78
      seal78 24 November 2017 19: 13
      +1
      Now is not up to it. It is necessary to hold elections, then the 2018 World Cup. After that, we will deal with VADA.
      1. Ulan
        Ulan 24 November 2017 20: 47
        +2
        I understand that this is so. Only in my heart I strongly doubt that we will understand. Then again we’ll come up with either the Universiade or the next festival and there will always be an excuse.
    2. Esoteric
      Esoteric 24 November 2017 19: 33
      +4
      Quote: burigaz2010
      I understand Putin, but this is chaos !!!!

      But I don’t understand why such slugs as Mutko are still in such positions in sports? How many applications from unapproved athletes (and disqualified ones) have been submitted to the IACS? What is the time during which an athlete may be disqualified?
      At the guarantor level, it is time to guarantee our citizens participation in international sports events, if they have not violated generally accepted laws. If you need to reassure someone from WADA, then you need to reassure, let it be necessary to use all possible means for this. Vise, matches and an old barn can be found in any abandoned village ... belay
      1. Young_Communist
        Young_Communist 24 November 2017 19: 40
        +2
        Quote: Esoteric
        But I don’t understand why such slugs as Mutko are still in such positions in sports?

        Well, as Obama appointed, such are. We now hope that Trump will appoint us goodies. After all, he is OUR.

      2. Ulan
        Ulan 24 November 2017 20: 48
        +2
        Iron and soldering iron are the best persuasors.
  5. NKVD
    NKVD 24 November 2017 18: 59
    +9
    Got it in partners and in international law.
    1. Reserve officer
      Reserve officer 24 November 2017 19: 07
      14
      So. Do not give away the medals. Do not recognize any decisions that humiliate the country. To bow how Mutko stop.
      Although what am I talking about? The money of our "elite" in whose banks? Here is the country's prestige ...
    2. 210ox
      210ox 24 November 2017 19: 07
      +2
      It’s not a matter of playing partners, but that they pulled up every riffraff and made them responsible for the Russian sport and doping control. Although they would have found a reason without them.
      Quote: NKVD
      Got it in partners and in international law.
  6. Black_Vatnik
    Black_Vatnik 24 November 2017 19: 00
    12
    The problem is not only in these Wadi Shmad and other state departments. The problem is that while we are being driven by sports like clowns like Mutko, they will do the same with our athletes. Clown officials have never been respected anywhere and never will be. Now came the same "no" Minister of Sports.
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 24 November 2017 19: 15
      +5
      while we are driven by sports clowns like Mutko
      ... Why are you talking about clowns ... If real clowns were driving, probably there wasn’t such a shame, real clowns with humor and ingenuity ... But is Mutko really a clown? ... He doesn’t even pull a booth artist .. also what kind of talent is needed ... He graduated from the State Technical University .. he took products from junior courses, he talked about this himself ..
      1. Black_Vatnik
        Black_Vatnik 24 November 2017 19: 37
        +3
        There is truth in your words.
  7. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 24 November 2017 19: 00
    13
    once again shown the mediocrity of the Russian sports leadership
    1. vadsonen
      vadsonen 24 November 2017 19: 03
      11
      The issue is clearly political, so the political leadership must be blamed.
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      2. svp67
        svp67 24 November 2017 19: 12
        0
        Quote: vadsonen
        The issue is clearly political, so the political leadership must be blamed.

        Judging by the flag, the White House and the State Department are not far from you there, so write them all the complaints ...
      3. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 24 November 2017 20: 12
        0
        Quote: vadsonen
        The issue is clearly political, so the political leadership must be blamed.


        yes political, but quite solvable at the level of SPORTS leadership
        why can not I decide I can’t say either complete lack of professionalism or do not care
        1. Ulan
          Ulan 24 November 2017 20: 50
          +2
          Loot steers.
    2. Reserve officer
      Reserve officer 24 November 2017 19: 08
      12
      This is not mediocrity. This is a betrayal of the image and interests of the country. Recipes of treatment - at the honored doctor comrade Stalin.
      1. PSih2097
        PSih2097 24 November 2017 19: 31
        +3
        Quote: Reserve officer
        Recipes of treatment - at the honored doctor comrade Stalin.

        not, not from comrade Stalin, but from comrade Beria L.P.
    3. Ulan
      Ulan 24 November 2017 20: 49
      +2
      But the political has nothing to do with it?
  8. sabakina
    sabakina 24 November 2017 19: 03
    +6
    It is quite understandable that they are going to demoralize the Russian national team so that, even if they are admitted to the Games, the Russians will not be able to show their best form.

    They think with Western patterns and do not understand if our team is allowed in its normal form, with a hymn and a flag, ours will just be meaner. So the analogy with the Second World War begs.
    1. seal78
      seal78 24 November 2017 19: 10
      +2
      And what is demoralization? Ours know that they won fairly. This is impossible to take away. And if the United States wants to play with rewriting the results after 4 years, then let them play, what does this have to do with reality?
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 24 November 2017 19: 15
        +3
        Alexei, they know it, but it’s hard to prove to some that you are not a camel. Now, if they are allowed to play under the white flag, then yes, demoralization will not be frail, therefore, if so, it is better not to go at all.
        1. seal78
          seal78 24 November 2017 19: 18
          +1
          And do not prove anything to anyone. All adequate people already know and understand everything. But many, for the sake of the United States, pretend to believe in their crap.
          1. Esoteric
            Esoteric 24 November 2017 19: 37
            +2
            Quote: seal78
            And do not prove anything to anyone.

            No need to prove anything to anyone. We must continue to break the San Andreas Fault so that they have more pressing problems ... am
            1. Ulan
              Ulan 24 November 2017 20: 52
              +2
              That is right. It’s elementary, if you don’t want the enemy to focus on you, arrange for him problems elsewhere.
    2. svp67
      svp67 24 November 2017 19: 14
      +1
      Quote: sabakina
      So the analogy with the Second World War begs.

      And the defeat of the 42nd year, when they were left almost without anything, and now. They knock out of our ranks the BEST, the most prepared and promising. In the meantime, prepare them to change ....
      1. seal78
        seal78 24 November 2017 19: 20
        +2
        It's just time to stop depending on the US subordinate to the IOC, and organize an alternative where all the best can calmly speak.
        1. IL-18
          IL-18 24 November 2017 19: 48
          +6
          Friendship 84 Games? And what? Who knows at least one winner in any kind of program? And the results of the participants were many higher than in LA!
          On the other hand, for a year and a half from the last summer Olympics at a high level, it would be possible from the highest rostrum through a talking head with a red mustache to touch on the topic that we, unlike the Americans, will not provide our athletes with certificates of lack of health to feed freshly doped. The fact that all of Russia regrets the poor, masculine dark-skinned girl who can give birth to a mutant (if she can get pregnant) is doomed to problems with oncology, and how many years she will live with this terrible lack of attention syndrome, continuing to eat this mixture of testosterone with steroids steamed on anabolic steroids.
          1. seal78
            seal78 24 November 2017 20: 09
            +1
            Quote: IL-18
            Friendship 84 Games? And what? Who knows at least one winner in any kind of program? And the results

            And what just took 30 years ago? Well, let's take the 1952 games again? Does anyone remember at least one winner?
            And if in order to be the “winner” that you know, you need not to win in reality, but to convincingly talk about the “victory” several years after the events, then why train athletes? Let's train storytellers!
            1. Setrac
              Setrac 24 November 2017 21: 02
              +1
              Quote: seal78
              And what just took 30 years ago? Well, let's take the 1952 games again? Does anyone remember at least one winner?

              I don’t understand what the howl is about ??? Professional sport is evil in its purest form; one must return to amateur sports.
          2. sabakina
            sabakina 24 November 2017 21: 25
            +2
            I do not know a single gold medalist of any Olympiad. And what? The main thing is that no one won, but how he won. I did not find 1984, there are 1986. Maybe you have mixed up something, are you our sports?

            And lastly, since we cried at our Olympics, we didn’t cry anywhere else!

            Look at their faces. Why did people cry? Because WE are the axis of the WORLD as a world, and not as a territory!
            The bear flew away, but he promised to return!
            1. IL-18
              IL-18 25 November 2017 16: 49
              +1
              in 1986 there were Goodwill Games sponsored by the Americans, a purely commercial project. You probably have a sore finger, and you could not type “Friendship-84” in a search engine. Take care of yourself.
      2. sabakina
        sabakina 24 November 2017 20: 54
        +2
        Sergey, I do not understand. Who defeated us in 1942?
        And the defeat of the 42nd year, when they were left almost without anything, and now. They knock out of our ranks the BEST, the most prepared and promising. In the meantime, prepare them to change ....
  9. skeptic31
    skeptic31 24 November 2017 19: 04
    +4
    How did our sports “leaders” get who are not able to protect our athletes. Only grandmas do and fear that they will be taken from them. Yes, send all this corrupt WADA, where Makar did not drive calves, that's all. I am ashamed of the leadership of our state, which does not react in any way to our dipping into shit almost every day.
  10. Mikhail m
    Mikhail m 24 November 2017 19: 04
    +5
    Alas, sport, as a phenomenon, is no longer there. Medals earned by officials and lawyers. We got it already, nettle seed !!! am
    1. Black5Raven
      Black5Raven 25 November 2017 00: 21
      +1
      Quote: Mikhail M
      Officials and lawyers earn medals

      More to the pharmacists is the constant and uncompromising struggle on the "invisible front."
  11. The Siberian barber
    The Siberian barber 24 November 2017 19: 09
    0
    Culture, sports, the elderly and children are the litmus test of social and economic policy pursued by the state ..
  12. private person
    private person 24 November 2017 19: 11
    0
    Quote: burigaz2010
    Yes, damn how much can you endure? I understand Putin, but this is chaos !!!!

    Well, what can you do if the whole world community supports this chaos.
    1. Esoteric
      Esoteric 24 November 2017 19: 41
      +1
      Quote: private person
      Well, what can you do if the whole world community supports this chaos.

      It is necessary to prove that this weakness is created by weak people who can easily get it by cabbage soup. Beat them in all corners of the planet where they put their infinite snout. Just beat until they get wiser ...
      1. private person
        private person 24 November 2017 20: 38
        +1
        How does Don Quixote fight windmills? You just need to score once, twice at the Olympics, not pay fees, and when the Americans take all the gold and no one can object to them then other participants
        think about it.
        1. Setrac
          Setrac 24 November 2017 21: 05
          +3
          Quote: private person
          How does Don Quixote fight windmills? You just need to score once, twice at the Olympics, not pay fees, and when the Americans take all the gold and no one can object to them then other participants

          It is generally necessary to score a professional sport. The state should support amateur sports, and let professionals earn their living without the help of the state.
          1. private person
            private person 24 November 2017 22: 27
            +3
            You see at the root, it’s better to spend this money on the development of sports schools in the regions.
  13. parusnik
    parusnik 24 November 2017 19: 11
    +2
    And you won’t name the clowns of WADA officials, the clowns will be offended ... and we’ll go to Korea like Calvary ... We’ll go, we’ll find dope ... We won’t go, howl will be ... but we didn’t come because the dope is being eaten ... Sometime , did not go to the Olympics .. They made Goodwill games, set more records than at the Olympics .. But alas, the country is not the right time ...
    1. seal78
      seal78 24 November 2017 19: 15
      0
      Quote: parusnik
      the country is not the right time ..

      That's it. The world is on the brink of war, now is not up to the Olympics, unfortunately, and even more so, not until the Goodwill Games.
    2. Esoteric
      Esoteric 24 November 2017 19: 42
      0
      Quote: parusnik
      And you can’t call WADA officials clowns, the clowns will be offended ... and we’ll go to Korea like to Calvary ...

      We must go to the DPRK. There the Olympics will be much more interesting. Take the aerospace forces, electronic warfare, air defense and go ...
  14. avia12005
    avia12005 24 November 2017 19: 13
    +8
    I now do not understand why our intelligence services have not yet found the gender black woman who 20 raped Maclaren years ago?
    1. zoolu350
      zoolu350 25 November 2017 05: 17
      0
      What are you? These are respected partners, not their own electorate. They may not think well of the oligarchy of the Russian Federation and add sanctions, and even encroach on the HOLY (grandmas in their banks and children in Yale).
  15. Koshak
    Koshak 24 November 2017 19: 14
    +4
    "Russia was deprived of the 1st team place at the end of the 2014 Olympics"

    It took three years for this ... Did the test tubes produce the desired results? How old, “Karl,” do you need for these doping tests ??? Or is it a terrible, terrible secret? fool
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 24 November 2017 19: 19
      +3
      Did you get the desired results in test tubes?
      ... Rodchenkov, stole the results of the samples, and then exported them to the United States .. exported them to the stomach .. then with the help of a laxative he deduced ... laughing
    2. Kunica
      Kunica 24 November 2017 19: 38
      +2
      Then they barely proved that the boy was sober, but do you want to clarify about doping? !! The wizard Suleiman everything is fair, without deception)))
  16. Gardamir
    Gardamir 24 November 2017 19: 20
    +4
    But how is this possible, we have the very best president. The genius of foreign policy! Which all countries are afraid and trembling!
    1. Shahno
      Shahno 24 November 2017 19: 26
      +2
      Well, he is a genius in Russia. And in other places, an ordinary president with his own shortcomings and advantages.
    2. Natalia777
      Natalia777 24 November 2017 21: 45
      +1
      Why such sarcasm? There is a hybrid war between the United States and Russia. Everyone is fighting as best he can. The United States selects gold medals honestly won by Russian athletes; Russia wiped out the dust of American ISIS hybrids in Syria. The advantage on the Russian side.
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 24 November 2017 21: 53
        +4
        The USA selects gold medals honestly won by Russian athletes,
        Russia in response transfers billions to the USA.
  17. anjey
    anjey 24 November 2017 19: 24
    +1
    dirty politics and sports in the mud get dirty ...
  18. cedar
    cedar 24 November 2017 19: 26
    +4
    Quote: vadsonen
    The issue is clearly political, so the political leadership must be blamed.


    What is it to blame? For the fact that another enema was inserted into Syria? They now shit and will stink everywhere, not only in sports. They will beg, we will also insert it and give .... about. Three and a half years of increasing sanction, and this is neither the first nor the last, and now what to lie under them? Let them bark, the main thing is that our caravan should go and get where the caravan driver needs to ...
    1. Natalia777
      Natalia777 24 November 2017 21: 46
      +1
      You're right. Who, as it may, is fighting. Russian savory lyuley weighed Amer ISIS in Syria.
  19. Kunica
    Kunica 24 November 2017 19: 34
    0
    Yes, let them compete with themselves there, how much will fit! And they hang up their own medals, one ton each. If they consider this to be a sport - a flag and a drum in the pantry.
  20. Azim77
    Azim77 24 November 2017 19: 34
    +3
    Yes, show once again on all TV the replay of the Olympics in Sochi. On YouTube, refresh the video from the Olympics, with English names. And let the people go to the flash mob - we won the Olympics, we are proud of our athletes! And if, who does not believe, we will prove again! That's the best way to respond to vile attacks. Yes, and athletes will be supported. Once again, remember their victory. Indeed, many of them need recognition of their own country.
    1. Ulan
      Ulan 24 November 2017 20: 55
      +2
      Correctly gutarite. Only who organizes it Mutki or what?
  21. Gennady Fyodorov
    Gennady Fyodorov 24 November 2017 19: 41
    +1
    So who assigns medals? Judges? Or WADA with a scoundrel Rodchenkov? And the statute of limitations does not exist?
  22. Trom
    Trom 24 November 2017 19: 42
    +1
    There has already been a precedent! ... remember the Universiade in the USSR as a response to the boycott of the Olympics-80 by the Americans. But now to make it (the Universiade) on an ongoing basis with the invitation of foreign athletes as an alternative to the foreign IOC .. And do not give them money, get out of there at all, and don’t pay money for broadcasting the Olympics in Russia, who are interested - google to help. There will be world championships, European ones, and even within the framework of BRICS to establish Asian and Latin American championships (this is just an example). And murkily let him continue to sue VAK ...
    1. Beaster
      Beaster 24 November 2017 20: 16
      +2
      These games were called "Spartakiad", and the Universiade is a competition among young people with the involvement of professional athletes and it is still being held. The latter was in the city of Taipei, China, in August of this year.
      1. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 25 November 2017 12: 22
        0
        You are both wrong. Your interlocutor is wrong about the Universiade. And you confused the regularly held Spartakiad of the Peoples of the USSR (a purely internal sporting event, without the participation of foreigners) with the Friendship-84 competitions and, possibly, with the Goodwill games in 1986 in Moscow and 1990 in Seattle. Both the Soviet and American athletes participated in the Goodwill Games held at the initiative of Ted Turner.
      2. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 25 November 2017 12: 30
        0
        Taipei is the capital of the Republic of China on the island of Taiwan. She does not submit to the authorities of the PRC. She calls herself simply the Republic of China and claims to be the whole of China. And at the same time it puts forward much greater territorial claims to China's neighbors compared to China. Sometimes the Kyrgyz Republic in international structures called Chinese Taipei. But at the Universiade in Taipei, however, the Chinese delegation took part. Obviously, the leadership of the PRC and the CCP did not politicize the issue. Moreover, relations between China and Taiwan through trade, culture, sports, humanitarian cooperation, and mutual visits of citizens of the two countries are developing very intensively.
    2. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 25 November 2017 12: 17
      0
      Universiades were held regularly. This is an international student sports competition. In 1984, the Friendship-84 Games were held in connection with the refusal of the USSR to participate in the Olympics in Los Angeles.
  23. Jack O'Neill
    Jack O'Neill 24 November 2017 19: 45
    +2
    So WADA did not provide proofs of doping, the athletes understood and forgave:
    The president of the World Anti-Doping Agency, Craig Reedy, confirmed that Russian athletes have been charged with doping against 95.

    Recall that Russian athletes were barred from competitions, including the Olympics, after the empty, but notoriously famous report by Richard McLaren, who without any evidence accused Russian athletes of using doping and the Russian Federation as a whole in support of doping at the legislative level. WADA was never able to prove anti-doping rule violations.


    Or did I miss something?
  24. alekc75
    alekc75 24 November 2017 19: 49
    +1
    maybe enough to endure this nonsense ??? abandon Korea and send this wada-arrange a trial in court!
  25. Sergey53
    Sergey53 24 November 2017 20: 01
    +2
    Why are they not suing the guilty from WADA, but only ranting on this subject. Less words, more deeds.
  26. mark_rod
    mark_rod 24 November 2017 20: 03
    +1
    We are extremely concerned!
  27. raketosss
    raketosss 24 November 2017 20: 08
    +3
    Quote: Young_Communist
    Quote: dr.star75
    Come on! In 2014 WE were the FIRST, and as the press in 2017, this will describe, according to FIG.

    Unfortunately - this is not the case until the opposite. As they describe in 2017,2078,2174, so in that reality it will be.

    Crimea, too, was thought to be Ukrainian always; Well this is a new world - not like before, they said. It used to divide the borders, now it’s different ... they also said that ... And WE saw the triumph of Russia in 2014: the Olympics, Crimea !!!! And the rest is a reaction to this triumph. We will survive nothing, as we survived the 90s; how our grandfathers survived the revolution.
  28. Beaster
    Beaster 24 November 2017 20: 10
    +2
    Russia won the Sochi Olympics, I saw it with my own eyes: I admired Lipnitskaya’s talent, worried about the hockey team, kept his fists for Antokha Shipulin and Viktor An. I saw the name of my country on the top line of the rating. And therefore, I do not care much that some uncles decided there retroactively. Russia won the Olympics in Sochi and no one will dissuade me of this!
  29. Pyromaniac
    Pyromaniac 24 November 2017 20: 20
    +1
    Quote: vadsonen
    The issue is clearly political, so the political leadership must be blamed.

    We can blame our political leadership for a lot of things, but not for the decisions that led to such actions of your political leadership. In these decisions, our political leadership enjoys the support of 99,9% of the population (0,1% will be left to the black sheep that are present in any society), therefore we will blame your political leadership and those who support it.
  30. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 24 November 2017 20: 25
    +3
    Russia was deprived of the 1st team place ...
    Not yet evening. With such bureaucrats like the prominent linguist Mudko and the loafer Zhukov at the World Cup 2018.
  31. Nemesis
    Nemesis 24 November 2017 20: 27
    +3
    Russia needs to stop paying membership fees to these organizations, enough to pay Russophobia from the budget of Russia ...
  32. Million
    Million 24 November 2017 20: 32
    +3
    They would have tried to deprive the USSR of medals .... It would not have seemed to anyone!
  33. Altona
    Altona 24 November 2017 20: 35
    +2
    Quote: 210ox
    But Mutko has everything in chocolate. What does sport and prestige of the country have to do with it? When is the loot first of all.

    ---------------------------
    Mutko will not pull this matter, even if he is more capable. Mutko has already found a scythe on a stone - a political question and not at the level of Mutko.
  34. Altona
    Altona 24 November 2017 20: 39
    +1
    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
    yes political, but quite solvable at the level of SPORTS leadership

    ------------------------
    Already unsolvable, the Anglo-Saxons on the principle went and loaded all the heavy artillery, namely all of their sports officials in all sports structures, including the courts.
    1. zoolu350
      zoolu350 25 November 2017 05: 13
      +2
      Quote: Altona
      You can’t beat the whip with your butt.

      A chainsaw in two.
  35. Altona
    Altona 24 November 2017 20: 40
    +1
    Quote: Million
    They would have tried to deprive the USSR of medals .... It would not have seemed to anyone!

    ------------------------
    Not yet evening. In hindsight, everything can be done. True, the USSR like 473 gold medals of the Olympic Games, if my memory has not been lost.
  36. Altona
    Altona 24 November 2017 20: 43
    +3
    Quote: Alexander-rr
    So they were deprived for the specific use of doping, or according to the report of McLaren and Co. ...? about this in our news no gu-gu ... !!!

    ----------------------
    Why? All gu-gu. The news writes that "the motivational part of the report of the Oswald commission is NOT REPRESENTED." So, for the time being there are unfounded and indiscriminate deprivations of the medals of our Olympic team. Without a motivation part, it is problematic to contact CAS. This was done specifically to tighten the procedural deadlines and prevent our athletes from rehabilitating legally and returning to the 2018 Olympics.
  37. Ivan58
    Ivan58 24 November 2017 20: 50
    +3
    And in figs we have such Olympics? And those moments who do not want to fight for our athletes.
  38. VIA_56
    VIA_56 24 November 2017 20: 54
    +3
    In order to avoid loopholes for the use of illegal drugs, it is necessary to prohibit all athletes who have diseases involving the use of anabolic drugs from participating in world and Olympic competitions. Then the US gymnasts will not go out on the carpet with glazed eyes, and Norwegian skiers and biathletes will not use anti-asthma drugs, and American swimmers will not use drugs forbidden to healthy athletes.
  39. Prutkov
    Prutkov 24 November 2017 21: 00
    +3
    Quote: Tusv
    Quote: bouncyhunter
    As for WADA, it’s their place in hell!

    Friend hi WADA has nothing to do with it, they are fulfilling the order. No more. Sharapova returned her good name, because she herself hired lawyers and quite possibly had money from this. Our bureaucrats chew snot. The State would have taken legal costs for personal claims and Voila. fsya this shobla would have to billions of dollars to our athletes and take off their hat or squat for a mile away in knicksen and God forbid they don’t do it, and since they have all the genders, they will sit down for reliability, they’ll take off their hat and perform sharkash. That smile will definitely be with them am

    Served already, before the Olympics in Brazil. The lawsuit is filed at the address of the defendant. In this case, in Switzerland. Here is the "most humane and fair trial" rejected the lawsuit. Those who organized such a provocation were not fools, and they considered the options for action. 25 years of surrender of all positions in the world have not passed for nothing. And there is no point in nodding only at Mutko. The war with WADA and their owners is ongoing. And it will continue for a long time. Individual claims of athletes will be. But in order for the court not to take a Swiss-style suit, it is necessary to legally comply with all procedures. And this is the time. The calculation is made that they will lose their nerves, and we will begin to make mistakes. After all, they were already trying to force WADA to sign a new charter, where one of the points was recognition of the guilt of Russia. Not signed. So take care of your nerves and health. The fight will be long.
  40. killganoff
    killganoff 24 November 2017 21: 05
    +3
    As long as people at the helm of the country have nothing to do with its inhabitants, all this will continue ...
    "A slave who does not seek to get rid of slavery deserves double slavery." D.M.D.
  41. Natalia777
    Natalia777 24 November 2017 21: 21
    +3
    To what extent the world community has reached corruption. Selling WADA and the IOC and their customers deserve a prison for slandering Russian athletes and hiding the facts of doping by American athletes. .
  42. Fox
    Fox 24 November 2017 21: 47
    0
    the article is not written correctly ... correctly like this:
    under the leadership of the great sun-faced another victory in foreign policy was won together with partners over common sense!
    Well, then ...
  43. arhPavel
    arhPavel 24 November 2017 22: 03
    0
    The whole essence of the Saxons, they can’t give a shit in the beginning, they will start later.
    The Saxons are being replaced by the Germans, but now nothing is left of them, for the Saxons also understand this.
    Now the Saxons shred us in any field, except for the use of force, such problems have no solution. Strength must be shown precisely to the Saxons, and not to their puppets.
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 24 November 2017 22: 30
      +4
      Quote: arhPavel
      The whole essence of the Saxons, they can’t give a shit in the beginning, they will start later

      it sounds different
      if a gentleman cannot win by the rules, then he changes the rules
  44. mss001
    mss001 24 November 2017 22: 55
    +2
    Well...? So we will be silent, like the rams that are being slaughtered? !!! We will only plaintively bleat ???
  45. Lelek
    Lelek 25 November 2017 00: 21
    +1
    It is quite clear that the Russian national team is going to be demoralized.

    Theme for writers. If someone begins to write memoirs, do not forget to call one of the chapters of your work “sv.o.l.o.ch.i”. There is no other characteristic for "these", their mother. negative
  46. NordUral
    NordUral 25 November 2017 00: 31
    +4
    It is not necessary to play with cheaters, but to beat, and it hurts.
  47. Zomanus
    Zomanus 25 November 2017 01: 21
    +1
    And in the future, it will be WADA who will decide who won which medal.
    And if the medal is handed to the wrong person, then immediately the charge of harassment and taking doping.
    In short, at this stage, the Olympic Games have turned into a complete x-nude.
  48. zoolu350
    zoolu350 25 November 2017 05: 09
    +2
    Well, once again we see the insignificance of the oligarchy of the Russian Federation. I remember WADA and wanted to run into the PRC, but the MOB of the PRC most likely has already explained to the leadership of the WADA that the PRC athletes should not be touched by NADA and everything has died out.
  49. osoboye_mneniye
    osoboye_mneniye 25 November 2017 09: 19
    +2
    And what did everyone want then? Here is an example from modern children's rhythmic gymnastics. The groups remain mainly children of wealthy parents, and a few more children from poor families, but children who are really gifted and able-bodied.
    And it turns out that 2-3 young athletes pull on themselves the remaining 10-12 mediocre children of wealthy parents. Coaches are forced to put up with this state of affairs, because if they perform separately, then their wealthy, having pushed up from above, will simply trample.
    I can say about rowing. Of the two dozen rowing bases in St. Petersburg, about five remained, and even in the territories truncated at times. All our Olympic victories in this sport are a thing of the past.
    There is no more mass sports for children. Therefore, there is no good adult.
    Because dope. Therefore, they lost the 1st place.
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 25 November 2017 09: 35
      +7
      Quote: osoboye_mneniye
      Because dope

      Without chemistry, there is now no professional sport. And for a long time already, not five and not even fifteen years.
      Chemistry has been around for a very long time, we are only talking about what has already been recognized as doping and what is not.
      And the ancient Greeks used stimulants wink

      Quote: osoboye_mneniye
      Therefore, they deprived of 1st place

      They were deprived because they have the "administrative resource" in their hands. And a great desire to spoil at least somehow.
      And all request
      1. osoboye_mneniye
        osoboye_mneniye 25 November 2017 10: 01
        +1
        Quote: Golovan Jack
        Quote: osoboye_mneniye
        Because dope

        Without chemistry, there is now no professional sport. And for a long time already, not five and not even fifteen years.
        Chemistry has been around for a very long time, we are only talking about what has already been recognized as doping and what is not.
        And the ancient Greeks used stimulants wink

        Quote: osoboye_mneniye
        Therefore, they deprived of 1st place

        They were deprived because they have the "administrative resource" in their hands. And a great desire to spoil at least somehow.
        And all request

        I understood. You are ready to ignore everything that I have stated above.
        I am well aware of use and deprivation. And it was not about stimulants at all. This is so that you are not mistaken especially.
        Do you believe in the best Russian sport in the world when its volume has been reduced several times compared to Soviet? This is despite the fact that even in Soviet sports, the result was not always the best. And believe in bad uncles. It’s more convenient for you.
        With this position, nodding at the bad uncles, you will quietly and calmly wait for the complete destruction of the sport. Good luck
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 25 November 2017 10: 24
          +7
          Quote: osoboye_mneniye
          I understood. Are you ready to ignore everything that I stated above

          Whoa ... not so zealous, please.
          Everything, then you set out there about the "suppression of mass sport", it’s quite right for yourself, and I did not argue with that.
          But what you said at the end is
          Quote: osoboye_mneniye
          Because dope. Therefore, they deprived of 1st place

          - the essence of nonsense (IMHO), which I tried to justify.
          So clearer?
          1. osoboye_mneniye
            osoboye_mneniye 25 November 2017 11: 06
            +1
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            Quote: osoboye_mneniye
            I understood. Are you ready to ignore everything that I stated above

            Whoa ... not so zealous, please.
            Everything, then you set out there about the "suppression of mass sport", it’s quite right for yourself, and I did not argue with that.
            But what you said at the end is
            Quote: osoboye_mneniye
            Because dope. Therefore, they deprived of 1st place

            - the essence of nonsense (IMHO), which I tried to justify.
            So clearer?


            Now it’s completely incomprehensible. If you understand that the level of our sport has fallen very much, you should also understand that the 1st place in the team event at the Olympics is somehow strange. Do not find?
            Then why be surprised and nod at the bad uncles when they take away medals for doping?
            In general, you do not correlate the reality of the situation with the result, and prefer to look for a problem with them, and not with us.
            That this whole story is biased and gives away by politics, I agree. This mess.
            But we have essentially the same thing. If a citizen of us decides to play law with the state, such as "catch me if you can," then they will certainly close him under one pretext or another. So be surprised that they deal with us by our own methods?
            Once again, dirty methods, I agree. But the first place at the Olympics for our country is utopia. Everyone understands this, who is even a little familiar with the state of sports in our country.
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 25 November 2017 11: 24
              +8
              Quote: osoboye_mneniye
              Now completely incomprehensible

              Poorly request
              Once again, the last one:
              1. Doping is used (in one form or another) by all professional athletes. Without exception.
              2. Caught for some reason (GYY laughing laughing laughing ) only Russian.
              9. Do not see in this "social order" can only be blind.
              What you, by all indications, are.
              Arivederchi hi
              1. zoolu350
                zoolu350 25 November 2017 11: 35
                +1
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                2. Caught for some reason (GYY laughing laughing laughing ) only Russian.
                9. Do not see in this "social order" can only be blind.
                What you, by all indications, are.
                Arivederchi hi

                So what does your favorite Russian oligarchy do against this? Nothing.
                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 25 November 2017 12: 50
                  +7
                  Quote: zoolu350
                  your favorite oligarchy of the Russian Federation

                  This is your favorite oligarchy, and you always remember it.
                  Don't you dream about it yet? See how it starts - immediately to the doctor, to the profile laughing
              2. osoboye_mneniye
                osoboye_mneniye 25 November 2017 11: 36
                0
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                Quote: osoboye_mneniye
                Now completely incomprehensible

                Poorly request
                Once again, the last one:
                1. Doping is used (in one form or another) by all professional athletes. Without exception.
                2. Caught for some reason (GYY laughing laughing laughing ) only Russian.
                9. Do not see in this "social order" can only be blind.
                What you, by all indications, are.
                Arivederchi hi


                You would not confuse professional sports with amateur sports ... do not disgrace too.
                Professional, it's for the money. Olympic is amateur.
                Well, to you from the couch, with a beer, but on TV, of course, you know better than I am blind, how are things in sports and who are caught for what))
                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 25 November 2017 12: 54
                  +8
                  Quote: osoboye_mneniye
                  Olympic is amateur

                  Right And the hockey team of the Union (I’m not talking about others) were also all lovers, oh fool
                  Quote: osoboye_mneniye
                  Well, to you from the sofa, with a beer ...

                  Your dream, camping trip? And me, on the couch, and even with a beer to see ... it's hard laughing
                  Quote: osoboye_mneniye
                  do not disgrace too

                  Exactly. Arivederchi once again hi
                  1. osoboye_mneniye
                    osoboye_mneniye 25 November 2017 17: 56
                    0
                    Quote: Golovan Jack
                    Quote: osoboye_mneniye
                    Olympic is amateur

                    Right And the hockey team of the Union (I’m not talking about others) were also all lovers, oh fool
                    Quote: osoboye_mneniye
                    Well, to you from the sofa, with a beer ...

                    Your dream, camping trip? And me, on the couch, and even with a beer to see ... it's hard laughing
                    Quote: osoboye_mneniye
                    do not disgrace too

                    Exactly. Arivederchi once again hi


                    It’s very difficult to reach you. Yes, the USSR hockey team was also involved in amateur sports. Only at a very high level. They did not play for money, but for the country. At that time, they even constantly emphasized that the Soviet team was playing against professionals. The implication was precisely that Canadians pros, acting for money part-time, defended the flag of their country. How our NHL stars after the collapse of the Union advocated for Russia.
                    Where can you see you on the couch when you are bravely hiding behind a router, your deep knowledge is hidden from the people)))
                    Your "arevederch" will not save you, do not hope. Your strong desire to express your expert opinion on issues where you are incompetent is puzzling ..
                    1. Mordvin 3
                      Mordvin 3 25 November 2017 18: 01
                      +3
                      Quote: osoboye_mneniye
                      Yes, the USSR hockey team was also involved in amateur sports.

                      You still say that they were all postmen, or miners, and they played hockey in their free time.
                      1. osoboye_mneniye
                        osoboye_mneniye 26 November 2017 21: 40
                        0
                        Quote: mordvin xnumx
                        Quote: osoboye_mneniye
                        Yes, the USSR hockey team was also involved in amateur sports.

                        You still say that they were all postmen, or miners, and they played hockey in their free time.

                        I won’t say anything about hockey, because team sports have specifics, and for other sports I can confirm that in Soviet times work and sports were combined during the preparation for the clubs. While in the national team to prepare for competitions, training camps, etc., it is clear that they were released from work. That is, the postmen of them were so-so, of course.
                        What is your question related to the failures in Russian sport discussed with the Russian jack?
                    2. Golovan Jack
                      Golovan Jack 25 November 2017 21: 10
                      +7
                      Quote: osoboye_mneniye
                      USSR national hockey team also engaged in amateur sports. Only at a very high level

                      Ouch, ёёё ... fur Siberian beast for a walk ...
                      Where are you doing these? And how old are you, kammentanter ??
                      I remember this team ... and you, the campaign, only read books about it. And then - through the paragraph laughing
                      Quote: osoboye_mneniye
                      you are bravely hiding behind a router

                      Why why? Do not confuse VPN with a router, right? Goryushko wink
                      VPN, by the way, mnu is turned off, everything is fair.
                      Quote: osoboye_mneniye
                      Your strong desire to express your expert opinion on issues where you are incompetent is puzzling.

                      You can see the bird from the litter ... somewhere I already heard it, but to remember only where recourse
                      Quote: Strugatsky, Monday, Cat Basil
                      "There is still such a disease - sclerosis," he said.
                      1. osoboye_mneniye
                        osoboye_mneniye 26 November 2017 21: 50
                        0
                        Quote: Golovan Jack
                        Quote: osoboye_mneniye
                        USSR national hockey team also engaged in amateur sports. Only at a very high level

                        Ouch, ёёё ... fur Siberian beast for a walk ...
                        Where are you doing these? And how old are you, kammentanter ??
                        I remember this team ... and you, the campaign, only read books about it. And then - through the paragraph laughing
                        Quote: osoboye_mneniye
                        you are bravely hiding behind a router

                        Why why? Do not confuse VPN with a router, right? Goryushko wink
                        VPN, by the way, mnu is turned off, everything is fair.
                        Quote: osoboye_mneniye
                        Your strong desire to express your expert opinion on issues where you are incompetent is puzzling.

                        You can see the bird from the litter ... somewhere I already heard it, but to remember only where recourse
                        Quote: Strugatsky, Monday, Cat Basil
                        "There is still such a disease - sclerosis," he said.


                        But you essentially couldn’t answer me about the level of our sport ... eh ...
                        It’s good that you are such an adult and smart guy that you know the USSR national team not from books, but on TV) But they say that it’s not always that the mind comes with age. Sometimes age comes alone. Why do you conflict where it was possible to pass by, if you have not enough knowledge in the matter?
                        Explain why do you need vpn to visit this resource? Are you often banned by ip? Or are you really Jack, who needs to be here under Russian ip?
                        You may not answer the last, so be it.
    2. zoolu350
      zoolu350 25 November 2017 11: 18
      0
      The fact that the oligarchy of the Russian Federation ruined mass sport is not even discussed, because it is true. But about doping, it’s not quite right. Here is the case when they (the West) can, but we (Russia) can not. During the USSR, there was doping too, but it was parallel to everyone because everyone knew the rules - medals at all costs, and organizations like WADA were like extras, because they didn’t feel any desire to climb under the millstones of superpowers. And the oligarchy of the Russian Federation brought to such a state that these extras (WADA), instead of not shining, begin to wipe their feet on the country on an ever-increasing scale.
      1. osoboye_mneniye
        osoboye_mneniye 25 November 2017 11: 26
        +2
        I agree with you. Russia without republics and socialist camps is lightweight. Therefore, you can put pressure, play not according to the rules, drag the ears of the law and draw the process. But in Russia, affairs at the state level are also being resolved. We ourselves have accepted these rules. Now they are used against us.
        1. Sergej1972
          Sergej1972 25 November 2017 12: 15
          0
          Well, and how now would the former Union republics of the USSR increase the weight of the Russian Federation? The aggregate PPP GDP of the 14 former republics of the USSR is 40% of the GDP of the Russian Federation, while the people there are collectively more than in Russia.
          1. osoboye_mneniye
            osoboye_mneniye 25 November 2017 18: 07
            +1
            Quote: Sergej1972
            Well, and how now would the former Union republics of the USSR increase the weight of the Russian Federation? The aggregate PPP GDP of the 14 former republics of the USSR is 40% of the GDP of the Russian Federation, while the people there are collectively more than in Russia.


            About GDP and the contribution of the republics can not be viewed from this point of view. If you are really interested, then you are here. https://topwar.ru/123510-armyanskie-smi-armeniya-
            gotovitsya-k-bolshoy-repatriacii-iz-rossii.html # c
            omments
            To me there one comrade tried very hard to prove with agitation about the gdp and that the republics were parasites. But it didn’t work out ..
            But this has a weak relation to sport. I propose to proceed from the fact that when sport occurs in large numbers and free of charge for 240 million people, and when it happens in 130 million people, and not for free already (for children, equipment, camps and training have long been paid for, some kinds of sports in general thug), and even with the reduction of MTS by several of the most expensive types, then the effectiveness of the sport will be 2 times, at least, lower. From the fact that now all of Russia's GDP goes only to Russia (forget about forgiven debts, the war in Syria and the Donbass, etc.), the state of affairs in sports, given above, has not gone away.
  50. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 25 November 2017 09: 28
    +2
    Why Mutko did not suffer any punishment, where is the rule of law? Obos ... the whole Russian team and the prestige of Russia, but he’s out of business (retired!), Always like that.